Peterson.. We cant beat Putin

[joswift]

[joswift]

Even if Putin withdraws, as long as he destroys Ukraine he can still claim victory because at least the West doesnt have it.

[Flexacon]

Even if Putin withdraws, as long as he destroys Ukraine he can still claim victory because at least the West doesnt have it.

That's not accurate.

Putin spent over a decade telling Russians that parts of Ukraine (Crimea and Donbas) were historically Russian territory. He now occupies Crimea and Donbas and is holding a referendum. The "results" are pretty certain to be that those regions want to leave Ukraine and be a part of Russia.

Putin can't withdraw as in the eyes of Russians withdrawing would be the same Russia conceding Russian territory.

[Automation]

Putin can claim whatever he likes. Doesn’t mean it’s true. He’s an abscess on humanity, soon to be lanced.

[joswift]

That's not accurate.

Putin spent over a decade telling Russians that parts of Ukraine (Crimea and Donbas) were historically Russian territory. He now occupies Crimea and Donbas and is holding a referendum. The "results" are pretty certain to be that those regions want to leave Ukraine and be a part of Russia.

Putin can't withdraw as in the eyes of Russians withdrawing would be the same Russia conceding Russian territory.

Valid point

Thing is we all know why the West is backing Ukraine, it isnt anything to do with Russia invading a Sovereign state, its because the West has billions invested in Ukraine.

The West had no problem invading Iraq (a sovereign state) to get rid of Saddam Hussain and killing 250k civilians in the process

[ThisisOverload]

That's not accurate.

Putin spent over a decade telling Russians that parts of Ukraine (Crimea and Donbas) were historically Russian territory. He now occupies Crimea and Donbas and is holding a referendum. The "results" are pretty certain to be that those regions want to leave Ukraine and be a part of Russia.

Putin can't withdraw as in the eyes of Russians withdrawing would be the same Russia conceding Russian territory.

Agreed for sure.

Russia isn't going to come out of this in too bad of shape.

But Ukraine is going to be devastated.

I'm starting to think this "war" is going to continue for a while.

[Matt]

Putin can't withdraw as in the eyes of Russians withdrawing would be the same Russia conceding Russian territory.

So the Russians support Putin here? Or do you mean specifically the ethnic Russians living in Ukraine?

[tommywishbone]

Will this make Russian D-Bol harder to get or easier to get ?

[Teutonic Knight]

Putin can claim whatever he likes. Doesn’t mean it’s true. He’s an abscess on humanity, soon to be lanced.

Slava Russia !.

 

[Mayday]

Agreed for sure.

Russia isn't going to come out of this in too bad of shape.

But Ukraine is going to be devastated.

I'm starting to think this "war" is going to continue for a while.

Russia will be pretty broken if it keeps playing out like this.

Most western businesses pulled out of Russia once war broke out. That was the skilled labour which maintained and operated their oil industry. We have a labour shortage in our cafes…. They have a labour shortage of their entire oil industry.

[ThisisOverload]

Russia will be pretty broken if it keeps playing out like this.

Most western businesses pulled out of Russia once war broke out. That was the skilled labour which maintained and operated their oil industry. We have a labour shortage in our cafes…. They have a labour shortage of their entire oil industry.

Seems they suspended sales and certain operations. Some seem to have completely withdrawn. I just glanced through the list.

At some point they will return, there is money involved. They aren't going to just walk away.

It seems the big oil operators are still in operation, and many have not disclosed anything. Others have stated all capex will continue.

Either way, i think it will be interesting to see what occurs first; Russia's markets opening back up or Ukraine rebuilding its entire infrastructure network.

The West is going to pump so much money into Ukraine it will be silly. So, there is hope there for sure.

[Teutonic Knight]

Will this make Russian D-Bol harder to get or easier to get ?

Pakistani made 1 is on sale in every SouthEastAsian pharmacy 

[Mayday]

Seems they suspended sales and certain operations. Some seem to have completely withdrawn. I just glanced through the list.

At some point they will return, there is money involved. They aren't going to just walk away.

It seems the big oil operators are still in operation, and many have not disclosed anything. Others have stated all capex will continue.

Either way, i think it will be interesting to see what occurs first; Russia's markets opening back up or Ukraine rebuilding its entire infrastructure network.

The West is going to pump so much money into Ukraine it will be silly. So, there is hope there for sure.

I think that’s an optimistic view.

We have proven capital seizure now. On top of that, unreliable supply chain with China lockdowns. We will see production begin to move around this decade, even I had a brief chat with the global CEO about moving to India (he raised it, not me). At top ‘C’ level we have advisors from tier 1 consultants like you E&Y, Deloitte, PWC and a large part of this is always risk management. It is THE number 1 worry as environmental regulation and ‘war’ are massive risks.

[dj181]

[Gym-Rat]

Putin can claim whatever he likes. Doesn’t mean it’s true. He’s an abscess on humanity, soon to be lanced.

sort of like Ukraine...

[Humble Narcissist]

Things are going to escalate soon.

[Rmj11]

Peterson, huh? Yeah, OK.

[GymnJuice]

That's not accurate.

Putin spent over a decade telling Russians that parts of Ukraine (Crimea and Donbas) were historically Russian territory. He now occupies Crimea and Donbas and is holding a referendum. The "results" are pretty certain to be that those regions want to leave Ukraine and be a part of Russia.

Putin can't withdraw as in the eyes of Russians withdrawing would be the same Russia conceding Russian territory.

I think the people in Crimea and Donbas might actually want to be part of Russia, not that I'd trust any Russian election. I doubt they'd have that referendum in Chechnya though 

[Flexacon]

So the Russians support Putin here? Or do you mean specifically the ethnic Russians living in Ukraine?

Both, although now that Russians are being called up to defend those regions some have become less supportive. Funny that.

[Flexacon]

I think the people in Crimea and Donbas might actually want to be part of Russia, not that I'd trust any Russian election. I doubt they'd have that referendum in Chechnya though 

Not all, but it would probably be a narrow majority. Still I doubt Putin trusts the intel he receives any more, so might as well take steps to guarantee he gets the results he wants.

[joswift]

Peterson, huh? Yeah, OK.

thats a great counter argument to put forward

You should be up debating him, that will show him..

[OAK]

Did Jordan Peterson recover from his mental breakdown yet?

😆

[Gym-Rat]

Did Jordan Peterson recover from his mental breakdown yet?

😆

Thought you take the medical community seriously?
You laugh at those who have medical issues??  Hmmm... Not very professional in your area of work.

[OAK]

Thought you take the medical community seriously?
You laugh at those who have medical issues??  Hmmm... Not very professional in your area of work.

Good point.

I keep forgetting how “easily offended” his followers are.

Don’t want to trigger anybody.

🙂

[joswift]

Thought you take the medical community seriously?
You laugh at those who have medical issues??  Hmmm... Not very professional in your area of work.

he doesnt work...