hammer strengh or DB's

[westidebber]

hey guys
I was ondering what your view on plate loading machine vs. DB's.. I ask  this b/c my gym goes up to the  130's. I can DB row the  130x 15 easy reps.....I sometimes do the hammer one arm row. but i like using more free weights. I can  DB shrug the  130s x 15 reps. i can do six plates  a side ammer machine. is it worth sticking with 'DB's or will i get the same  resuilt from using the hammer machine?? 

[Cap]

Do both.  If you have to go heavier with Hammer then do it.  Weight is weight for the most part.

[dontknowit]

What about barbell?

BTW, the hammerstrength line is very decent equipment so make good use of it.

[Jeff Miller]

Weight is weight for the most part.

Sometimes.  With machines and cables, sometimes the effort and load are not one-to-one, like with free weights.  Also, depending on where the fulcrum on a Hammer Strengt6h is, the effort and load ratio actually changes thoughout the movement, unlike free weights.  Something to think about.

[The Squadfather]

hey guys
I was ondering what your view on plate loading machine vs. DB's.. I ask  this b/c my gym goes up to the  130's. I can DB row the  130x 15 easy reps.....I sometimes do the hammer one arm row. but i like using more free weights. I can  DB shrug the  130s x 15 reps. i can do six plates  a side ammer machine. is it worth sticking with 'DB's or will i get the same  resuilt from using the hammer machine?? 

sounds like you need to start using the barbell for these movements especially the db rows, if you're legitimitely using a 130lb. bell for 15 then you need to switch to bb rows.

[pumpster]

If the machine is working the lats as well as 1-arms stay with it; sometimes machines are better. Or mix it up with:

-1-arm free weight rows using straps, using a t-bar or holding onto the very end of a BB.

-1-arm pulley rows.

-2-handed T-bar or BB rows. If you want to support your back as with 1-arm rows, do BB rows lying face down on a bench.

-Pre-exhaust the lats on machines/free weights, after which the weight used on 1-arm rows should decrease.

[westidebber]

I do use  barbells. like i do barbell rows and finish up with DB rows.  same with  barbeell shrugs then DB shrugs.   I don't really use cable very much. b/c a. on most exerise like cable row i can do the stack pretty easy. the PTs at my gym don't want me to pin free weights on the stack. b. i'm trying to use more free weights.