https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/family-ashli-babbitt-announce-suing-capitol-police-10-million-failure-warn-shooting-daughter-dead/
Verbal commands..this was mentioned by both Moontrain and myself
$10 million is not enough for this case, and frankly losing a family member cannot be compensated by any amount.
I still hope her family wins but I doubt it: even by the ridiculously low standards police are held up to, the capitol police is even worse, they do not even comply with FOIA requests because in their view it does not apply to them. Her killer has not even been named and they are actively concealing his identity. And of course it doesn't help that Ashli Babbitt was not a Democrat while the White House, Congress and DOJ are controlled by Democrats. What I find odd Coach is how you, a steadfast "back the blue" police supporter, suddenly take issue with police not being held accountable for killing Babbitt.
What I find odd Coach is how you, a steadfast "back the blue" police supporter, suddenly take issue with police not being held accountable for killing Babbitt.
I don't know why the police didn't shoot more of those TRAITORS and CRIMINALSI don't know why you're such an unAmerican piece of shit. You relish in the fact that an American vet was shot and killed yet fully support the assault on innocent people, destruction of businesses and private property just because of political beliefs. You are a horrible person.
If this ever happens again hopefully they will
Dude, I’ve been reading that the alleged commands from officers on her side of the door/wall mean that the officer on the other side was justified to fire.
Imagine police officers outside a 7-11 are telling somebody to stop trying to break into the store. Perp sticks his head through a broken window, and a police officer inside shoots and kills the perp.
Shit is upside down.
I don't know why you're such an unAmerican piece of shit. You relish in the fact that an American vet was shot and killed yet fully support the assault on innocent people, destruction of businesses and private property just because of political beliefs. You are a horrible person.
$10 million is not enough for this case, and frankly losing a family member cannot be compensated by any amount.Shouldn’t have been there, that shit is a stain on our country and everyone involved needs to be prosecuted. I’m not a democrat as I’m sure strawman can attest but the fact anyone is defending their actions is fucking nuts.
I still hope her family wins but I doubt it: even by the ridiculously low standards police are held up to, the capitol police is even worse, they do not even comply with FOIA requests because in their view it does not apply to them. Her killer has not even been named and they are actively concealing his identity. And of course it doesn't help that Ashli Babbitt was not a Democrat while the White House, Congress and DOJ are controlled by Democrats. What I find odd Coach is how you, a steadfast "back the blue" police supporter, suddenly take issue with police not being held accountable for killing Babbitt.
Ashley Babbit and her fellow TRAITORS are the Un-American pieces of shit in this storyThose are all lies propagated by cunts like you and the liberal media. You are a terrible person and on the wrong side of history.
They were there to forcefully stop the counting of electoral votes in order to prevent a legal and valid transfer of power
We're also learning that THE TRAITOR who sent his crowd of criminal there on that day was also trying to use the Justice Department to STEAL the election that he LOST
Those are fucking facts
Sorry if you don't like them or can't deal with them
Shouldn’t have been there, that shit is a stain on our country and everyone involved needs to be prosecuted. I’m not a democrat as I’m sure strawman can attest but the fact anyone is defending their actions is fucking nuts.Can you point us to similar posts from you about the antifa/blm murder and destruction spree of 2020?
Breach, not breach, verbal command, no verbal command she shouldn’t have been there, play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
Ashley Babbit and her fellow TRAITORS are the Un-American pieces of shit in this story
They were there to forcefully stop the counting of electoral votes in order to prevent a legal and valid transfer of power
We're also learning that THE TRAITOR who sent his crowd of criminal there on that day was also trying to use the Justice Department to STEAL the election that he LOST
Those are fucking facts
Sorry if you don't like them or can't deal with them
What I find odd Coach is how you, a steadfast "back the blue" police supporter, suddenly take issue with police not being held accountable for killing Babbitt.
I also heard that she didn’t breach the window when she was shot. She was still on the other side
Oh well, if you heard it, then case closed. I mean it’s not like there’s actual video.
Oh well, if you heard it, then case closed. I mean it’s not like there’s actual video.
Or he even has a track record of hearing correctly.
Perhaps if she kept her ass at home and not out acting like a.... well, Trumpturd, she would still be alive today.
She fucked around. She found out.
Oh well, if you heard it, then case closed. I mean it’s not like there’s actual video.
Shut the fuck up. Literally every hearing and fake impeachment that was brought forward including Kavanugh was ALL based on hearsay...
Show me the video of her actually breaching that window. Find the audio of the cop giving a verbal to stop. This was a cop that either didn’t continue training of what he was taught or this was an intentional killing. He had options to not shoot especially when there were armed police in his background as well as other “rioters”. If this cop was so afraid for his to where he didn’t think about what he was taught, then he had no business being there...PERIOD
The cop had more business being there than her stupid ass did.
That’s not the point cupcake
You don’t have a point. Dumb ass.
Can you point us to similar posts from you about the antifa/blm murder and destruction spree of 2020?Chaos you may not remember me but I’ve posted on this board for a long time, not much recently but I’ve spent a lot of time calling out the stupidity that was 240isback, strawman and lurker over the years. As a matter of fact i think you wanted me to be mod back when Hugo Chavez was stepping down.
If not you're as useless and braindead as that cunt straw man.
Shut up stupid. As usual you’re making an ass of yourself
Chaos you may not remember me but I’ve posted on this board for a long time, not much recently but I’ve spent a lot of time calling out the stupidity that was 240isback, strawman and lurker over the years. As a matter of fact i think you wanted me to be mod back when Hugo Chavez was stepping down..
The destruction and lawlessness that took place in a number of cities over the last 2 years has been ridiculous and the cities themselves need to be sued (which is happening) for allowing stupid shit like autonomous zones and abandoning certain parts of towns.
That has nothing to do with this however. The US is a beacon for democracy and freedom around the world and this shit was and is a fucking stain on our country. Peaceful transition of power is a hallmark of a stable society and this is the type of shit that happens in 3rd world countries and needs to be condemned by everyone.
I also heard that she didn’t breach the window when she was shot. She was still on the other side
Says the midget that was sitting on the sidelines mass posting about it. If you feel some strongly about it then make sure you show up at the next riot and let those bad policemen know. Good news is at your height they might mistake you for a minute and ignore you. Otherwise you can fuck around and find out.
You’re missing the point again cupcake.., as usual
You don’t have a point. Again, dumb ass.
Hey Tony how you been? I can’t believe you typed all that without a single “goodness gracious” that was your hallmark. LOLHahaha, doing good man, busy these days with a wife and kids but I still log in every now and then to see what’s going on. It’s good to see there are still a number of people keeping this board going.
That officer has already been cleared and this is strictly for fund raising.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/ashli-babbitt-official-memorial
He hasn’t been cleared of anything yet
Chaos you may not remember me but I’ve posted on this board for a long time, not much recently but I’ve spent a lot of time calling out the stupidity that was 240isback, strawman and lurker over the years. As a matter of fact i think you wanted me to be mod back when Hugo Chavez was stepping down.As long as you're consistent in your opinions across the political spectrum it's all good. Several people here, like the fucking moron that calls himself Straw Man, seem to think certain actions are OK for their political side but not the other side.
The destruction and lawlessness that took place in a number of cities over the last 2 years has been ridiculous and the cities themselves need to be sued (which is happening) for allowing stupid shit like autonomous zones and abandoning certain parts of towns.
That has nothing to do with this however. The US is a beacon for democracy and freedom around the world and this shit was and is a fucking stain on our country. Peaceful transition of power is a hallmark of a stable society and this is the type of shit that happens in 3rd world countries and needs to be condemned by everyone.
wrong
https://www.npr.org/2021/04/14/987425312/officer-cleared-in-the-shooting-of-ashli-babbitt-during-capitol-riot
On to the civil suit.
I do, you’re just too fucking stupid to even comprehend it
He hasn’t been cleared of anything yet
wrong
https://www.npr.org/2021/04/14/987425312/officer-cleared-in-the-shooting-of-ashli-babbitt-during-capitol-riot
Well now, Biden can't wear that tan suit every day .
Really?
HAHAHAHAHA Howard just punched your stupid ass right in the mouth. Now what? How you going to spin these FACTS?
Yes..really. God..you get dumber by the day and you should be punched in the mouth for it. For the record...you’re still a coward
::)
Liar!
Good one... come back tomorrow for yet another ass beating when you have nothing else
Sigh....lawsuit will go nowhere. She broke into the Capitol and ignored commands to not come through the door. She came through the door and caught that bullet. Its sad that she got shot but she got what she got for her actions....dying for Trump
BANG!!!
Sigh....lawsuit will go nowhere. She broke into the Capitol and ignored commands to not come through the door. She came through the door and caught that bullet. Its sad that she got shot but she got what she got for her actions....dying for Trump
BANG!!!
What commands, Vince? We don’t know if there were any verbal commands. Weren’t you a correctional officer? If you were you should have been trained in tactical firearms that includes verbal commands.
I don’t expect the two dolts Lurker and Strawman to know anything about that, but you should.
What commands, Vince? We don’t know if there were any verbal commands. Weren’t you a correctional officer? If you were you should have been trained in tactical firearms that includes verbal commands.
I don’t expect the two dolts Lurker and Strawman to know anything about that, but you should.
Really?
HAHAHAHAHA Howard just punched your stupid ass right in the mouth. Now what? How you going to spin these FACTS?
Fuck Biden’s DOJ..now you know why Trump passed on Garland. On to the civil suit.
The dam is about to break
LOL. You keep raising the bar of “unthinking, blindered, partisan mouthpiece.” You lack any independent thinking ability and are perfectly willing to ignore objective evidence in front of your face when it contradicts what your taskmasters over at OANN or wherever you get your tasking from.
That’s what you think... I see both sides. You really don’t see what’s going on, do you? Trump wouldn’t put Garland on the bench for precisely this..
That’s what you think... I see both sides. You really don’t see what’s going on, do you? Trump wouldn’t put Garland on the bench for precisely this..
I honestly don’t think you see both sides. Not only do you not see both sides but you are unable to look at objective reality. If OANN told you that the sky is green then your own eyes wouldn’t convince you.
Hey phony "coach"
If Ashley Babbit and her crowd of criminals were trying to break through your front door how quickly would you have shot them all ...multiple times ?
And how quickly would you have come to this board afterward and made a post bragging about it?
Hahahaha....you’re such a moron. Check the Gun Laws in California shit for brains before you ask stupid ass questions. And using a firearm on ANYONE is ALWAYS a last resort
I asked what YOU would have done
If you had a mob actively trying to smash in your front door with your wife and kids inside I doubt you would be too concerned about the law (which I'm pretty sure would be your favor)
Something like this: https://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/santa-clara-resident-shoots-burglar-trying-to-kick-in-door-to-home/
So tell us
What would you do
Don't dodge the question
Honest answer. It’s a legal one because I’d be the one to go jail. If someone broke into my house and I didn’t see a weapon but they saw mine chances are they’d stop. But if attacked by one or multiple attackers and they didn’t obey the verbals and they closed the gap, I’m with in my rights IN my house to defend my family and myself.
Now, they came in he/she has a knife or had a firearm that wasn’t brandished I still can’t legally shoot until they brandish and take a step toward me then it’s game on...or in their case, off
If I came in and they were already in my home and just stealing property, by California law I can’t shoot. This is the opposite of a constitutional carry state such as Texas. So basically what ever the law dictates in this fucked up state I follow but in a real Constitutional world Second Amendment rights is still King
California is anti-2A
For the record. The McCluskies were WELL within their legal rights to defend themselves and their property under the Castle Doctrine/Stand your ground laws because 1. The “protestors” broke through the gate of their community and were verbally threatened
Honest answer. It’s a legal one because I’d be the one to go jail. If someone broke into my house and I didn’t see a weapon but they saw mine chances are they’d stop. But if attacked by one or multiple attackers and they didn’t obey the verbals and they closed the gap, I’m with in my rights IN my house to defend my family and myself.
Now, they came in he/she has a knife or had a firearm that wasn’t brandished I still can’t legally shoot until they brandish and take a step toward me then it’s game on...or in their case, off
If I came in and they were already in my home and just stealing property, by California law I can’t shoot. This is the opposite of a constitutional carry state such as Texas. So basically what ever the law dictates in this fucked up state I follow but in a real Constitutional world Second Amendment rights is still King
California is anti-2A
For the record. The McCluskies were WELL within their legal rights to defend themselves and their property under the Castle Doctrine/Stand your ground laws because 1. The “protestors” broke through the gate of their community and were verbally threatened
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. I’d have no problem shooting an intruder to protect myself and my family. That cop did nothing wrong.
Ms Babbitt presented a clear and present danger to members of congress.A single, unarmed women presented a danger to members of congress? Really?
That’s what you think... I see both sides. You really don’t see what’s going on, do you? Trump wouldn’t put Garland on the bench for precisely this..
Here's the difference between you and I , when it comes to politics Coach. Pay attention because it's a BIG difference:
You started this thread defending the actions of an over zealous "protestor.
She was attempting to attack members of congress by going thru a window , they just broke.
We all KNOW what you think if a BLM protestor does the SAME thing during looting.
Unlike YOU, I think that Ms Babbitt and the BLM looter should be dealt with harshly for their lawless actions.
If a cop shoots , gases or tazzes you for looting or trying to attack members of congress, you get shot. Period.
I judge the action and police response based ONLY on what they do, NOT who they are.
It's called being FAIR and free from political bias.
That's the American way. You might consider trying it for a change.
I back the blue 100% but I’ve also been discussing extensively with others as well as reading and looking at almost everything I can get my hands on as far as being in situations similar to this. There are too many unanswered questions and still over approximately 1400hrs of video that hasn’t been released. As far as the way that cop handled that situation....there are still many questions that haven’t been addressed and from what I can see, that cop had no business firing his service weapon especially since Babbitt DID NOT breach that window before she was shot and killed.
She did not deserve to die and anyone with an ounce of firearms training knows he was wrong.
"Back the blue 100%" except for this case apparently where you ask questions such as if the cop gave any warnings or orders or if the cop should have shot Babbitt. These, and many more, are good questions but why don't you back the blue in this particular case?
You were in the Marines, right? Trained? Right? Well, so was she. Decorated with deployments to both Iraq and Afghanistan..she was trained. So here’s my question to you since you assumed that she was attacking a plain clothes cops pointing his service weapon at her while she’s about five foot nothing and all of buck twenty and UNARMED...he being trained do you actually think ANYONE who is trained is stupid enough to do that?
I don’t want to hear hyperbole, Howard. Use some common sense
Hey phony "coach"You're stupid, your thoughts are stupid, your ideology is naïve and submissive, you are without a doubt a bottom in your homosexual relationship.
If you want to be angry about this womans death then focus your anger at the reason she was there
She was there committing those crimes on that day because she believed THE TRAITORS LIES
We knew then and we know they are lies now
Unfortunately she wasn't smart enough to realize the life long pathological liar was lying to her about the election being stolen (and in fact he was the one trying to steal the election)
That's on HER and THE TRAITOR
Trump LIED and she DIED
You were in the Marines, right? Trained? Right? Well, so was she. Decorated with deployments to both Iraq and Afghanistan..she was trained. So here’s my question to you since you assumed that she was attacking a plain clothes cops pointing his service weapon at her while she’s about five foot nothing and all of buck twenty and UNARMED...he being trained do you actually think ANYONE who is trained is stupid enough to do that?
I don’t want to hear hyperbole, Howard. Use some common sense
With her training she should have known that her actions would cause a reaction. Instead she continued on acting like a moron and...
BANG BANG
You're stupid, your thoughts are stupid, your ideology is naïve and submissive, you are without a doubt a bottom in your homosexual relationship.
It's always hilarious when you idiots get mad and reveal that you're a closet caseYou lead a pathetic life, no peace, no happiness, only Trump obsession. You are useless fodder for amusement.
I guess you'd prefer to not address the FACT that the only reason she was there that day is because THE TRAITOR LIED TO HER
You lead a pathetic life, no peace, no happiness, only Trump obsession. You are useless fodder for amusement.
You're stupid, your thoughts are stupid, your ideology is naïve and submissive, you are without a doubt a bottom in your homosexual relationship.
Yeah..he really is a fucking idiot
I don't know why you're such an unAmerican piece of shit. You relish in the fact that an American vet was shot and killed yet fully support the assault on innocent people, destruction of businesses and private property just because of political beliefs. You are a horrible person.
You lead a pathetic life, no peace, no happiness, only Trump obsession. You are useless fodder for amusement.
Yeah..he really is a fucking idiot
Rude. You need to address her by her full and proper name: Village Idiot. It's like "A Tribe Called Quest." You have to say the whole name. You cannot call her "idiot" or "f-ing idiot," it's Village Idiot. ;D
Hey phony "coach"
If you want to be angry about this womans death then focus your anger at the reason she was there
She was there committing those crimes on that day because she believed THE TRAITORS LIES
We knew then and we know they are lies now
Unfortunately she wasn't smart enough to realize the life long pathological liar was lying to her about the election being stolen (and in fact he was the one trying to steal the election)
That's on HER and THE TRAITOR
Trump LIED and she DIED
Rude. You need to address her by her full and proper name: Village Idiot. It's like "A Tribe Called Quest." You have to say the whole name. You cannot call her "idiot" or "f-ing idiot," it's Village Idiot. ;D
LOL - Beach Bunny comes out of his holeYour "facts" are your own, therefore they are lies. You are a liar, a bullshitter, a charlatan a backstabbing un-American cunt.
Hey Bunny, maybe you want to address the FACT that the poor stupid woman lost her life solely because she believed THE TRATORS LIES
Hands down the most miserable person I have encountered on the internet.Can you imagine Straw Mans poor husband being embarrassed at dinner when all Straw Man wants to talk about is his TDS? :D
Straw, I know this is getbig and some make rude insults.
Unless it's done as a funny joke, I don't think it's right.
For starters, Coach is a real trainer with an actual training biz.
He works with a lot of athletes in various sports. I consider him a knowledgeable " strength coach"
You are correct that Trump and his lackeys got their followers ginned up .
They Jan 6 terrorists tried to stop a legitimate election certification via attack on the US Capitol.
Many were arrested and charged by the FBI , with some offenders still awaiting trials or sentencing, in jail.
It's sad that a vet like Ms Babbitt lost her life, on a fools errand .
I find it ironic that many of the Jan 6 insurgents, abused police and trampled all over our democracy.
Last I looked this country cherishes free speech and the PEACEFUL transition of power.
Imagine any sports team , where the head coach said; " We won't accept the results, unless we win." ::)
Then , after a video review of any close call, the other team was declared the clear winner.
Continuing to say; " we won, they cheated", would sound like a total assclown!
Your "facts" are your own, therefore they are lies. You are a liar, a bullshitter, a charlatan a backstabbing un-American cunt.
Can you imagine Straw Mans poor husband being embarrassed at dinner when all Straw Man wants to talk about is his TDS? :D
Noted ;D
The FACT that Biden won and THE TRAITOR LIED and CONTINUES TO LIE about it don't belong to meYou're a LIAR, flat out, nobody here or in REAL LIFE should believe anything you say.
That's reality
I know it's something that you're not really familiar with since you live with your head up THE TRAITORS ass
Straw, I know this is getbig and some make rude insults.
Unless it's done as a funny joke, I don't think it's right.
For starters, Coach is a real trainer with an actual training biz.
He works with a lot of athletes in various sports. I consider him a knowledgeable " strength coach"
You are correct that Trump and his lackeys got their followers ginned up .
They Jan 6 terrorists tried to stop a legitimate election certification via attack on the US Capitol.
Many were arrested and charged by the FBI , with some offenders still awaiting trials or sentencing, in jail.
It's sad that a vet like Ms Babbitt lost her life, on a fools errand .
I find it ironic that many of the Jan 6 insurgents, abused police and trampled all over our democracy.
Last I looked this country cherishes free speech and the PEACEFUL transition of power.
Imagine any sports team , where the head coach said; " We won't accept the results, unless we win." ::)
Then , after a video review of any close call, the other team was declared the clear winner.
Continuing to say; " we won, they cheated", would sound like a total assclown!
The FACT that Biden won and THE TRAITOR LIED and CONTINUES TO LIE about it don't belong to me
That's reality
I know it's something that you're not really familiar with since you live with your head up THE TRAITORS ass
Focus.....She was unarmed. Someone who is trained in tactical firearms such as cop should know when too pull the trigger and when not too. You cannot be on a police force even if they were coming from a military background, that being said, and again, either this was intentional (which I'd like to think this isn't true) or he didn't keep up his training which caused him to panic and shoot. Do you UNDERSTAND what I'm getting at?
Ok, I actually worked on a security detail that authorized ,when to use deadly force ( as a I already posted).Were you a high school chemistry teacher that used to hit on girls in your classes or a high security clearance special ops security guard?
Ms Babbitt, was trying to enter an unauthorized area thru a vandalized window inside a secure GOV facility .
This meets the criteria for use of deadly force and has NOTHING to do with her being armed.
AGAIN, by jumping up into that window after being told to stand down, was a clear violation of a secure perimeter.
That alone makes her a '"clear and present danger" to the nearby, fleeing members of congress.
You may not like that legal criteria, but I assure you it was proper procedure for him to use deadly force , in that situation.
Ok, I actually worked on a security detail that authorized ,when to use deadly force ( as a I already posted).
Ms Babbitt, was trying to enter an unauthorized area thru a vandalized window inside a secure GOV facility .
This meets the criteria for use of deadly force and has NOTHING to do with her being armed.
AGAIN, by jumping up into that window after being told to stand down, was a clear violation of a secure perimeter.
That alone makes her a '"clear and present danger" to the nearby, fleeing members of congress.
You may not like that legal criteria, but I assure you it was proper procedure for him to use deadly force , in that situation.
It's not clear whether she breached the window or not. She was unarmed. How many times has someone jumped the White House fence and not got shot? If I recall even someone got into the White House uninvited, not shot. Didn't someone land a helicopter within the White House grounds and didn't get shot...
Were you a high school chemistry teacher that used to hit on girls in your classes or a high security clearance special ops security guard?I was in the USMC for 4 years active duty before I completed college .
Thanks for proving once again you really are that stupid
I was in the USMC for 4 years active duty before I completed college .So....
Were you a high school chemistry teacher that used to hit on girls in your classes or a high security clearance special ops security guard?
Backing the blue 100% doesn’t mean backing a cop that was too scared or didn’t train enough to do his job correctly. Am I saying he’s a bad cop or dirty cop? No.
Unidentified cops investigated themselves and cleared themselves of any wrongdoing. "Back the blue".
Capitol Police officer who shot Ashli Babbitt exonerated in internal probe
The Capitol Police officer who fatally shot Ashli Babbitt outside a door of the U.S. Capitol has been formally exonerated after an internal investigation, according to a department memo obtained by NBC News.
The officer, whose name has not been released, opened fire on Babbitt as she and a mob of other Trump supporters tried to forcefully enter the Capitol on Jan. 6.
The Justice Department announced in April that no charges were being brought against the officer. The exoneration by the Capitol Police wraps up the last remaining investigation into the incident.
A memo from the commander of the Capitol Police’s Office of Personal Responsibility says “no further action will be taken in this matter” after the officer was exonerated for use of force.
The Capitol Police did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/capitol-police-officer-who-shot-ashli-babbitt-exonerated-internal-probe-n1277336
Tough call here.
BUT, i have no problem with her being shot and killed.
The original video i saw showed her literally climbing through the window as she was shot.
She was the only person attempting to do so after being repeatedly told not to (apparently).
I'm assuming she knew it was a bad idea to try and do this while armed police were pointing guns at her and telling her to stop..
My personal opinion is all of them should have been shot once they entered the building.
Just like all the looters and rioters should have been shot on sight.
This isn't about politics.
It's about law and order.
Slippery slope. ;D
Politically, you and I vote differently but I have nothing but respect for this post. It shows that you are fair, honest and brimming with integrity. I think where we come together is on tits, ass and whores in general. ;D
Parsh ;D
Get ready for the hagiographic interview of the "hero". It would be interesting to see if his identity matches a name that has been floating for a while (Byrd).
The police officer who shot and killed Capitol rioter Ashli Babbitt will reveal his identity in a Lester Holt interview
The Capitol Police officer who shot and killed Ashli Babbitt during the January 6 riot at the US Capitol will reveal his identity in an interview with NBC News' Lester Holt airing Thursday.
"Speaking out and revealing his identity publicly for the first time, the officer will share his perspective on the events of that day, including the aftermath of the deadly insurrection and the threats he has received," NBC News said in a press release announcing the upcoming interview.
The interview with air Thursday night at 6:30pm E.T. on "NBC Nightly News," which is anchored by Holt. Other portions of the officer's interview will air on other NBC News platforms, including on "TODAY" and on MSNBC.
https://www.businessinsider.com/cop-who-killed-ashli-babbitt-identity-nbc-interview-2021-8
Book deal and consulting gig to follow.
Sure looks like it. Possibly some delusional pseudo-heroic BS such as "The courage to act: what it takes to defend (D)emocracy".
Sure looks like it. Possibly some delusional pseudo-heroic BS such as "The courage to act: what it takes to defend (D)emocracy".
from an "insurrection."
from a violent mob who was trying to physically break into the House chambers and were chanting that they wanted to hang the Vice President
That's all
Dumb bitch got exactly what she deserved and others are very lucky they didn't get shot
hahahahha... it's funny how the right wants to make a martyr out of a dumb twat that thought continuing her rampage with a gun pointed at her was nothing to worry about.
What's his name? hahahhaha
Thousands of hours of video... hahahaha
Not cleared anywhere else.... hahahahaha
Still spewing shit about something you know absolutely NOTHING about basing your assessment on pure emotion instead of common sense. Hey thumper, just an FYI, because the murderer was cleared by his department doesn’t mean he was cleared anywhere else. Why are there still thousands of hours of video not released? Why hasn’t the name of the murderer still not released? Because the fuckers didn’t know his training...that’s one reason
By your logic the cops should have fucking blown away every Antifa and BLM member that set fire to federal buildings knowing people were still inside. Right Karl?
Still spewing shit about something you know absolutely NOTHING about basing your assessment on pure emotion instead of common sense. Hey thumper, just an FYI, because the murderer was cleared by his department doesn’t mean he was cleared anywhere else. Why are there still thousands of hours of video not released? Why hasn’t the name of the murderer still not released? Because the fuckers didn’t know his training...that’s one reason
By your logic the cops should have fucking blown away every Antifa and BLM member that set fire to federal buildings knowing people were still inside. Right Karl?
Did you skip your meds today
No one was murdered
A criminal was shot in the act of a violent crime after being told multiple times to stop
You yourself admitted you would have done the exact same thing if that same criminal was trying to break down the front door of your house
Did you skip your meds today
No one was murdered
A criminal was shot in the act of a violent crime after being told multiple times to stop
You yourself admitted you would have done the exact same thing if that same criminal was trying to break down the front door of your house
Yes, she was basically murdered. Not one person in this entire thread has brought up this cops training, the tactical safety that goes along with it, the cops surroundings, the fact there was no verbal commands or warnings before he shot and judging by his lack of situational awareness I would be hard pressed to even think he remembered the four basic rules of firearms safety which applies in ALL situations whether you’re a newbie, law enforcement vet or military vet.
5/6 pages on here and I’m the only one who’s brought anything up.
On Monday, the U.S. Capitol Police declared the shooting lawful, and said it would not pursue disciplinary charges against the lieutenant who killed Babbitt. That follows April’s decision by the Department of Justice not to bring criminal charges against the officer. Neither agency named the lieutenant, for his own safety.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/column-ashli-babbitt-was-not-a-peaceful-protester-its-clear-why-the-cop-who-shot-her-was-exonerated/ar-AANHOJE?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnbfcL
“An officer may use deadly force only when the officer reasonably believes that action is in the defense of human life, including the officer’s own life, or in the defense of any person in immediate danger of serious physical injury,” wrote the Capitol Police’s Office of Professional Responsibility.
“The actions of the officer in this case potentially saved members [of Congress] and staff from serious injury and possible death from a large crowd of rioters.”
No she was not
She was a criminal who was shot in the act of committing a violent crime.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/column-ashli-babbitt-was-not-a-peaceful-protester-its-clear-why-the-cop-who-shot-her-was-exonerated/ar-AANHOJE?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnbfcL
Another answer out of pure emotion it with no thought process whatsoever behind it except for what you’re told. You and strawman her to the dumbest motherfuckers That’s ever post it on here hands-down
Did you apply this to cases such as Eric Garner, Michael Brown and thousands upon thousands of others?
Being called dumb by a stupid manlet is meaningless.
If the stupid bitch wasn’t acting like a retard she would still be alive today and you would still be whining about something else. STFU crybaby.
Another useless response from Village idiot #2 and still not addressing my point because you can’t....twat
You have no point. That’s the problem with your weak ass rationale of Ashley getting herself killed in the commission of a crime.
But keep whining. Apparently it’s all you can do to make yourself feel better.
Neither of them were murdered. Michael Brown in particular was directly responsible for his own death.
Sorry you missed the point.
That’s because what I said went right over your pea brain so of course you won’t understand it.
Because you don't need to know his identity. He was cleared. No need for brain dead Trumpturds to start camping out on his lawn.
He wasn’t cleared by a quart. He was cleared by an internal investigation have his own department and of course Biden’s DOJ which doesn’t mean shit so don’t sit there and tell me that he was fucking cleared he might’ve been cleared by his peers who are fucking wrong anyway because you’re licking ass but he wasn’t cleared by a civil court he wasn’t clear by a criminal court he wasn’t cleared by any fucking corn
And oh absolutely yes we need to know his identity because if that was a white shoot or you would’ve known his fucking identity the first goddamn day. But no let’s Clear guy who had absolutely no business having a fucking gun in the first place. Oh and by the way apparently this guy has a habit of losing his firearm. Who the fuck does that?
Officer who shot Ashli Babbitt during Capitol riot breaks silence: 'I saved countless lives'
“Once we barricaded the doors, we were essentially trapped where we were,” Byrd said in an exclusive interview with NBC News’ Lester Holt, speaking publicly for the first time since the riot. “There was no way to retreat. No other way to get out.
“If they get through that door, they’re into the House chamber and upon the members of Congress,” added Byrd, who gave NBC News permission to use his name after authorities had declined to release it.
Byrd’s connection to what was going on outside and inside the building was his police radio. For several minutes, it crackled with a cascade of alarming messages.
There were shouts of officers down. Screams from his colleagues under attack by rioters with chemical agents. A report that an officer’s fingertips were blown off.
“It was literally broadcast over the air,” Byrd said. “I said, ‘OK, this is getting serious.’”
Soon a horde of demonstrators arrived. Byrd, a 28-year veteran of the Capitol Police, took a defensive posture with his gun drawn as rioters smashed the glass doors.
He said he yelled repeatedly for them to get back. But the mob kept pressing forward, and then a lone rioter tried to climb through one of the doors.
What happened next was captured on video: Byrd fired one shot, striking Babbitt in the shoulder.
I heard that he was cleared by a Gallon.
Your fellow Traitors and Criminals were chanting that they wanted to hang the Vice President and many were vocal about there wish for violence upon other members of Congress. The police were there to protect Congress. I'd rather have Babbitt dead than find out what would have happened if that crowd of maniacs had breached that doorway.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officer-who-shot-ashli-babbitt-during-capitol-riot-breaks-silence-n1277736
I heard that he was cleared by a Gallon.
Your fellow Traitors and Criminals were chanting that they wanted to hang the Vice President and many were vocal about there wish for violence upon other members of Congress. The police were there to protect Congress. I'd rather have Babbitt dead than find out what would have happened if that crowd of maniacs had breached that doorway.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officer-who-shot-ashli-babbitt-during-capitol-riot-breaks-silence-n1277736
Stick with the subject. He had no business whatsoever having a firearm. He wasn’t well trained and made it obvious what training he did have wasn’t kept up. He failed.
He wasn’t cleared by a quart. He was cleared by an internal investigation have his own department and of course Biden’s DOJ which doesn’t mean shit so don’t sit there and tell me that he was fucking cleared he might’ve been cleared by his peers who are fucking wrong anyway because you’re licking ass but he wasn’t cleared by a civil court he wasn’t clear by a criminal court he wasn’t cleared by any fucking corn
And oh absolutely yes we need to know his identity because if that was a white shoot or you would’ve known his fucking identity the first goddamn day. But no let’s Clear guy who had absolutely no business having a fucking gun in the first place. Oh and by the way apparently this guy has a habit of losing his firearm. Who the fuck does that?
I heard that he was cleared by a Gallon.Brutal over exaggeration by some coward, not surprised you support this, you cowards stick together.
Your fellow Traitors and Criminals were chanting that they wanted to hang the Vice President and many were vocal about there wish for violence upon other members of Congress. The police were there to protect Congress. I'd rather have Babbitt dead than find out what would have happened if that crowd of maniacs had breached that doorway.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officer-who-shot-ashli-babbitt-during-capitol-riot-breaks-silence-n1277736
You take issue with cops investigating and clearing themselves, as they usually do, but you still back the blue? Or do you think those "good" cops you believe in acted to hold Byrd accountable? These thugs put the thin blue line above all else and would not cross it. This has always been an issue with police Coach, only now you notice it because it affected someone with similar political beliefs.
Same with libturds who suddenly became "law and order" and are content that the cop was cleared by an "internal investigation".
he's got more business owning a gun than you do
Also, he was 100% justified in shooting Babbit...which is A TOPIC of this thread
Brutal over exaggeration by some coward, not surprised you support this, you cowards stick together.
I'd rather have Babbitt dead than find out what would have happened if that crowd of maniacs had breached that doorway.
He wasn’t cleared by a court. He was cleared by an internal investigation have his own department and of course Biden’s DOJ which doesn’t mean shit so don’t sit there and tell me that he was fucking cleared he might’ve been cleared by his peers who are fucking wrong anyway because you’re licking ass but he wasn’t cleared by a civil court he wasn’t clear by a criminal court he wasn’t cleared by any fucking corn
And oh absolutely yes we need to know his identity because if that was a white shoot or you would’ve known his fucking identity the first goddamn day. But no let’s Clear guy who had absolutely no business having a fucking gun in the first place. Oh and by the way apparently this guy has a habit of losing his firearm. Who the fuck does that?
Byrd said he had no idea whether the person he shot was carrying a weapon. It was only later that night that he found out that the rioter was a woman who was unarmed.
Asked why he pulled the trigger, Byrd said it was a “last resort.”
Byrd said he had no idea whether the person he shot was carrying a weapon. It was only later that night that he found out that the rioter was a woman who was unarmed.
Asked why he pulled the trigger, Byrd said it was a “last resort.”
1. Why does he have more business owning a gun than me?
2. You’re right back to not addressing my points but only saying “he was 100% justified” even though you can’t tell me WHY he was justified shooting and unarmed person.
3. Just because you can shoot a firearm doesn’t mean you know how to SHOOT a firearm competently. Any monkey can shoot a gun
4. Him leaving his firearm in obscure places unattended makes him too irresponsible to carry a firearm let alone shoot someone with it and to top it off he left in the Capitol visitors center where strangers are walking in and out.
Since you live in the Southern Cal region, stage a protest by charging into the secure area of Andrews AFB.
Make sure you carry a big sign, that say's ; " I'm unarmed, leave me alone" and see how far you get.
Since you live in the Southern Cal region, stage a protest by charging into the secure area of Andrews AFB.
Make sure you carry a big sign, that say's ; " I'm unarmed, leave me alone" and see how far you get.
HAHAHHAHAHAHA Awesome burn!
Try to put some thought into your responsesReally ?? You don't think there's any over exaggeration there? For real, no political BS.
Tell me what exactly is the "brutal over exaggeration" in this sentence
Your statement doesn't even make any sense
Since you live in the Southern Cal region, stage a protest by charging into the secure area of Andrews AFB.
Make sure you carry a big sign, that say's ; " I'm unarmed, leave me alone" and see how far you get.
You’re a professor huh?
Hey Howard, just curious. How doesn’t it feel to have the blood on your hands of the fallen Marines that were set up the very person you voted for and warned about?
How "doesn't" it feel to have the blood on your hands of the fallen Marines that were set up by the very person you voted for to send them there (Bush) and by the very man you voted for to keep them there (Clinton and Trump)?Maybe if your hero hadn't pulled out like a virgin trying to figure out were to spray his load, they'd still be alive too.
Maybe if Trumpy defeated the ISIS in 30 days - or 4 years - like he said he would, it wouldn't have happened.
How "doesn't" it feel to have the blood on your hands of the fallen Marines that were set up by the very person you voted for to send them there (Bush) and by the very man you voted for to keep them there (Clinton and Trump)?
Maybe if Trumpy defeated the ISIS in 30 days - or 4 years - like he said he would, it wouldn't have happened.
Maybe if your hero hadn't pulled out like a virgin trying to figure out were to spray his load, they'd still be alive too.
You and everyone else who “voted” for this were warned of his incompetence. That said that alone makes you too incompetent to even think about voting ever again
You and everyone else who "voted" for Bush were warned of his incompetence and he still sent them there on a bullshit "mission". That said that alone makes you too incompetent to even think about voting ever again.
Hey fuckhead. Biden was given accurate intelligence he chose to ignore....tell us again retard how this even remotely compares. Why don’t you admit you were warned about this retard before the “election” yet you chose to ignore it because you have no idea how to research a candidate and if you did, you chose to vote for this asshole because you hated Trump so much. Why do I feel like all of your life’s decisions have turned out this way? One bad decision after another with ZERO moral integrity to top it off
Trumpturd meltdown!
Trolling me won’t help. You just took over top spot as the Village Idiot
That is still head and shoulders above you. Literally.
Too bad we’ll never find out.
Really ?? You don't think there's any over exaggeration there? For real, no political BS.
I'd rather have Babbitt dead than find out what would have happened if that crowd of maniacs had breached that doorway.
for real...I asked you a question...why don't you try an answering it
Here is my statement
What part of this sentence is an "over exaggeration" (whatever the fuck that even means since it's redundant)
what part is "over exaggerated"
Trumpturds can't justify their whining so they try to talk about something else instead. ::)
Hey Trumptards
Tells us what you think would have happened if the mob of maniacs broke through that door and were face to face with members of Congress. Do you think they would have then sat down and stages a peaceful protest?
This is a group that already violently breached at least one if not multiple lines or police (obviously ignoring all orders to stand down) before they got to that doorway where they continued their violence and continued to ignore orders to stand down. This is the crowd who was chanting that they wanted to assassinate the Vice President. One of the criminals on January 6th posted a video on social media saying they were looking for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "to shoot her in the friggin’ brain but we didn’t find her,”
That Babbit chick was a fucking QAnon nut job who thought members of Congress ate babies.
Again, I'm simply amazed that the police showed as much restraint as they did
And I'm also amazed that anyone here has any issue with happened to Babbit.
She chose to be there
She chose to participate in trying to break down that door
She chose to ignore orders to stand down
She chose to try to enter the room through the window and she and her fellow criminals broke
She made her choices and I have ZERO FUCKING SYMPATHY for her.
Still arguing on emotion and what the MSM tells you instead of having some knowledgeable common sense
tell me what you think is false in my statement
also tell me what you think this crowd of criminals, traitors and QAnon idiots would have done if they were face to face with Congress members who they think eat babies and were trying to steal the election away from THE TRAITOR
I think there would have been some serious violence and I see no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt
Again, you have done the exact same thing if this was your house and I doubt you would have bothered to give them any warning
I have a better idea and I didn’t use any links in my posts. Address my posts on that cops incompetence, lack of firearms training, lack of tactical training, lack of situational awareness, negligence of him forgetting his firearm in a public bathroom within the Capitol Building (why was it even out of his holster?) that’s a violation in itself. Where were his verbal commands..why did he shoot her in the neck? Why did he shoot at all when her both of her hands were on the window frame...5’2 115 100% unarmed. Why did he shoot into a crowd?
We can START there. I don’t want to see one more link from anywhere from you until you can answer these questions.
I have a better idea and I didn’t use any links in my posts. Address my posts on that cops incompetence, lack of firearms training, lack of tactical training, lack of situational awareness, negligence of him forgetting his firearm in a public bathroom within the Capitol Building (why was it even out of his holster?) that’s a violation in itself. Where were his verbal commands..why did he shoot her in the neck? Why did he shoot at all when her both of her hands were on the window frame...5’2 115 100% unarmed. Why did he shoot into a crowd?
We can START there. I don’t want to see one more link from anywhere from you until you can answer these questions.
I see you can't answer my questions....as usual
And you want to change the subject....as usual
Go Fuck Yourself...as usual
Hahahahah he point blank asked you a simple question. You couldn’t or wouldn’t answer it. Instead you resort to tired ass excuses.
STFU with your whining bullshit.
Ok, let’s go there. Do I have an issue with cops clearing themselves when it comes to negligence in an internal investigation and them withholding the ID of the cop plus thousands of hours of unreleased video? And then finding out the reason it was withheld was because he was black? Yes, I absolutely do because everything I laid out (and not just myself) was dead on. You seem to think “backing the blue” means they can get away with murder and I’m still going to back them 100%. Show me you logic. Too many people in this thread from both the left and right are acting on PURE emotion without taking anything else into consideration. No one has address this cops lack of firearm skill, situational awareness, firearms safety (which still applies in the heat of the moment) all I’ve heard was “she broke the law so she deserved it).
Quiet you useless twat. You’re less knowledgeable than Strawman
Doesn't seem to be the case in all the ones that were killed prior this month does it? So what is your point? Other than not having one.Again, you're falling into Straw man territory just so you can follow your politics.
Again, you're falling into Straw man territory just so you can follow your politics.
Again, you fail to make any point at all. You have a quota of key strokes to fill each day or are you just trying to justify your whining?Keep avoiding it, pussy, you're falling off farther.
Keep avoiding it, pussy, you're falling off farther.
So you do have a problem with cops clearing themselves in internal investigations.
You do have a problem with cops withholding the ID of the killer because he is a cop and/or black.
You do have a problem with cops not releasing data and video.
And I'm happy to see that you have a problem with these issues because they are very common and appear almost every time in thousands of cases where cops abuse, rape, kidnap or kill someone. You mention lack of training on firearm skills, firearm safety and situational awareness which on their own should, in theory, have gotten a cop fired or in prison but in practice these issues rarely cause cops to lose their job. Had an ordinary citizen left a firearm inside Congress you can rest assured he would have been arrested and probably serving prison time. Not so for Byrd when he "forgot" his firearm inside a bathroom at the Capitol Visitor Center 2 years ago.
Here is a government agent, a "highly trained professional" unlike us plebs, trying to teach gun safety to children at a school. He even proclaims "I'm the only one in this room professional enough that I know of to carry a Glock 40". He then proceeds to shoot himself with a gun he just said was unloaded(!), or in police speak "the firearm discharged itself".
So after all these issues how can you still back the blue 100%? The blue that cleared Byrd of murder and justified the killing of Ashli Babbitt. How can you support those who protected and justified Ashli Babbitt's killer?
The fact that the cop was cleared by internal investigations means that whatever training Byrd had and whatever actions he took were approved and decreed justified by his fellow cops and the group he works for. And that's what they usually do: they protect the blue above all and to them blue comes before black or white.
Well that is still miles and miles more knowledgeable than your retarded ass. You have proven time and again you can't answer simple questions nor even understand them.
Meanwhile : August 29th, 2021 - Biden still President, Babbitt still dead.
No, actually you zero idea what I’m talking about so don’t pretend. Coward
No one really knows what you are talking about because aren’t fluent in the Stupidnese you speak.
But keep whining. 3 1/4th more years of it will be hilarious to watch.
Even the most layman with firearms experience should know the problem with picture..
When I saw this picture put up yesterday on the news I damn near shit pants .
Lurker, serious question since you’re so knowledgeable. What’s the matter with this picture? Don’t spin it with your bullshit and don’t skate around it. C’mon, this is basic firearms safety 101. This is shit taught the first day of even touching a firearmPick me!!! Pick me!!!! I KNOW!!! :D
Btw, please no one else but Lurker or Strawman chime in on this if you know the problem with this pic.
Because you have no idea of the context which makes you even bigger retard for chiming in on something you have no clue of.
Lurker, serious question since you’re so knowledgeable. What’s the matter with this picture? Don’t spin it with your bullshit and don’t skate around it. C’mon, this is basic firearms safety 101. This is shit taught the first day of even touching a firearm
Btw, please no one else but Lurker or Strawman chime in on this if you know the problem with this pic.
Lurker, serious question since you’re so knowledgeable. What’s the matter with this picture? Don’t spin it with your bullshit and don’t skate around it. C’mon, this is basic firearms safety 101. This is shit taught the first day of even touching a firearm
Btw, please no one else but Lurker or Strawman chime in on this if you know the problem with this pic.
Other than finger on the trigger and not outside the safety guard, I would say the biggest problem would not having it aimed at more Trumpturds.
Wow, BoB is Biden smart :D.
If that's all you see then you've confirmed that you are absolutely CLUELESS...
That pic alone tells me he shouldn't be in possession of a firearm. Maybe at home where there's no one around except him
So you do have a problem with cops clearing themselves in internal investigations.
Yes, especially when there is an obvious agenda attached to it
You do have a problem with cops withholding the ID of the killer because he is a cop and/or black.
Yes..because anyone with any common sense knows the position of Congress and their agenda
You do have a problem with cops not releasing data and video.
Yes, but in this case from what I understand Byrd came forward on his own (somewhat because he was obviously coached up by attorneys
And I'm happy to see that you have a problem with these issues because they are very common and appear almost every time in thousands of cases where cops abuse, rape, kidnap or kill someone.
Really? in high profile cases? It took a day for babbitts name to be released after she was shot as opposed to eight months of finally knowing the shooters name. Tell us again how long took for Derek Chauvin's name to be released or any officer shooting ...hours?
You mention lack of training on firearm skills, firearm safety and situational awareness which on their own should
You just underscored what I've said. His lack of training is 100% due to him (as with most law enforcement) NOT TRAINING that being said when a cop that lacks ongoing training will emphatically lose skill. But even with his lack of training seems he can't follow simple safety as shown in the picture I posted. Most agencies require a ONCE A YEAR re-qualification of maybe :30 to an hour shooting 10 maybe 20 yards at a target. no movement, nothing tactical...just shoot the target. Good cops that don't train doesn't make them bad cops, it could make them dangerous while putting others at risk as well as themselves. I'm not doubting Byrds sincerity, I'm doubting his (or any cops) ability to handle pressure in certain circumstances. Byrd failed miserably and it showed in his training. He panicked and broke damn near every tactical rule in the book in that situation
in theory, have gotten a cop fired or in prison but in practice these issues rarely cause cops to lose their job. Had an ordinary citizen left a firearm inside Congress you can rest assured he would have been arrested and probably serving prison time. Not so for Byrd when he "forgot" his firearm inside a bathroom at the Capitol Visitor Center 2 years ago.
I would be curious as to what that report said. He did say he was reprimanded. What does that mean? Suspension? Firearm taken away for a period of time? Re-qualifcation? Spending a week with a qualifying instructor? What?
Here is a government agent, a "highly trained professional" unlike us plebs, trying to teach gun safety to children at a school. He even proclaims "I'm the only one in this room professional enough that I know of to carry a Glock 40". He then proceeds to shoot himself with a gun he just said was unloaded(!), or in police speak "the firearm discharged itself".
I didn't see the video and will only comment on what you described....he fucked up. it happens and should be reprimanded. Seems he either forgot or was too lazy to clear the firearm. It's 100% on him
So after all these issues how can you still back the blue 100%? The blue that cleared Byrd of murder and justified the killing of Ashli Babbitt. How can you support those who protected and justified Ashli Babbitt's killer?
I'll say this again. For the last time. "backing the blue" 100% by no means, means backing blatant stupidity that could harm others or themselves. I back Babbitt for all the reasons I've described with the #1 being she was unarmed as despite what Byrd said, posed no threat.
The fact that the cop was cleared by internal investigations means that whatever training Byrd had and whatever actions he took were approved and decreed justified by his fellow cops and the group he works for. And that's what they usually do: they protect the blue above all and to them blue comes before black or white.
The fact that the cop was cleared by an internal investigation doesn't mean he'll be cleared in a civil court (which may even turn into an eventual criminal matter) it means he was cleared by the department who is still calling this an "insurrection" even though that was deemed not so.
::)
That pic could tell you a million things, but that doesn't mean they are all true. You are the biggest dingbat on the board bar none. But keep trying.
Dude, you're absolutely 100% clueless and all you're doing trolling. "That pic can tell you million things" but your dumbass could only point out one ::)
Even the most layman with firearms experience should know the problem with picture..
When I saw this picture put up yesterday on the news I damn near shit my pants .
Actually I pointed out two. The second problem, as I noted, was he was not pointing it at more Trumpturds.
So far his record is : One shot, one kill. Sounds like he handles a firearm better than your short ass can pretend to.
You're a troll and should be beaten like one
Even the most layman with firearms experience should know the problem with picture..
When I saw this picture put up yesterday on the news I damn near shit my pants .
Babbitt shooting internal police docs reveal ‘no good reason for shooting,’ according to Judicial Watch
More than 500 pages of internal documents from DC Metropolitan Police concerning the fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt in the Capitol on Jan. 6 reveal witness accounts stating she was not holding a weapon at the time of her death and how "upset" the officer was after shooting her.
"These previously secret records show there was no good reason to shoot and kill Ashli Babbitt," stated Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, which obtained the documents through a May 2021 FOIA lawsuit. "The Biden-Garland Justice Department and the Pelosi Congress have much to answer for the over the mishandling and cover-up of this scandalous killing of an American citizen by the U.S. Capitol Police."
Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was shot and killed during the storming of the Capitol by a bullet fired by Capitol Police officer Lt. Michael Byrd. The documents from the DC Metropolitan Police department show that witnesses did not see Babbitt holding a weapon prior to her being shot, and reveal conflicting accounts of whether Byrd verbally warned Babbitt before shooting her.
A Capitol Police sergeant, whose name is redacted, described seeing Babbitt climbing through a broken window, but did not witness her holding a weapon, according to a portion of the documents received by Judicial Watch.
"Sergeant [redacted] observed a white, female protester was climbing through an opened area where the glass pane had been knocked out. He heard a gunshot and this female fell backwards through the opening. The crowd on the other side of the barricaded east doors, began to step back and some put their hands in the air. Sergeant [redacted] observed Lieutenant Byrd step back just after hearing the gunshot. He did not see anything in the female protester’s hands prior to the gunshot," the Internal Affairs Division report stated.
"Sergeant [redacted] never went on the other side of the barricaded east door. He also did not know that it was Lieutenant Byrd who shot his gun until he talked to him moments after it occurred. Lieutenant Byrd looked upset and stated, ‘I was the one who took the shot,’" the report continued.
Judicial Watch noted that in a written transcript of the interview with the sergeant, he detailed he was not sure "if something happened to" Byrd that "caused him to take the shot or not."
"Uh, I saw Lieutenant Byrd kinda. I don’t know if it was before or after. Cause I was trying to figure this out of, but there was at one point where I remember seeing him and he kind of went like this and then came back up again. Uh, I don’t know if that was from him taking the shot and then stepping back from that shot or if it was before that, I can’t, no matter how I tried to rack my brain, I can’t, I can’t figure out when that happened, but uh, so I don’t know if something happened to him where [sic] caused him to take the shot or not," the written transcript states.
The sergeant went onto describe that Byrd was "visibly upset" after shooting Babbitt.
"No, his eyes were red. He was, you could see he was visibly upset and he just, you know, kind of comfort him and told him, you know, we gotta get outta here," the transcript of the interview states.
The interviewer asked the sergeant if he approached Babbitt after the shot, and he responded, "No, no, no. I maintained my position."
He added that Byrd directed him and other officers to go down "into the subway" following the shooting.
The interviewer also asked: "This was not a typical day, was it?"
"Definitely not my craziest day there," the sergeant replied, saying the closest event to compare it to was "the shots fired back in 2004, 2005 in the Rayburn building ...."
The interview asked the sergeant if Jan. 6 was a "frightening experience," to which the sergeant responded: "Oh yeah. I’m not afraid to say I was, I was scared s--t."
The Internal Affairs Division also conducted a different interview with another Capitol Police officer on Jan. 6, who was positioned directly behind Byrd in the Speaker’s Lobby during the shooting of Babbitt.
"He did not see Ms. McEntee [Babbitt] in possession of any potential weapons," the summary report states.
"He reiterated that he did not observe that she was armed."
That interviewee also described Byrd as "upset" following the shooting.
"Lieutenant Byrd was shaking, he did not say anything…. Byrd was nervous, teary-eyed, and appeared very upset. His voice [was] also shaky when he called for medical assistance over the radio. Lieutenant Byrd was still very upset," the report continued.
That interviewee also said that a man with a beard wearing a suit attended to Babbitt, according to transcripts of the interview. Neither he nor the sergeant interviewed were able to prove the identity of the bearded man in the suit, but said they believe he was with the House Sergeant-at-Arms office.
Yet another report also stated that a sergeant did not see a weapon in Babbitt’s hands before hearing a gunshot. That report added that investigators "recovered 'a para force’ folding knife in Ms. Babbitt’s pants pocket."
"The crowd on the outside of the previously barricaded east doors began to step back, and some raised their hands in the air. Sergeant [redacted] did not see anything in Ms. Babbitt’s hands prior to hearing the gunshot."
Another report on an interview with a Capitol Police officer on Feb. 4 stated, "He did not hear any verbal commands" before Babbitt was shot.
A separate Jan. 6 phone interview with a man who "reached out" to the Metro PD, who claimed to have been in the House Chambers at the time of the shooting, contradicted the officer’s Feb. 4 interview.
He said he did in fact hear Byrd shout "loud verbal commands" that he would "shoot" before firing at Babbitt. That interviewee also claimed Byrd fired twice, not once.
"He was yelling, he was giving commands. Um, he was saying, I will shoot. Uh, he was saying some other stuff. I couldn’t clearly make out what he was saying, but he was definitely, uh, giving commands, no question about it," the interviewee said, according to transcripts.
"He [Byrd], uh, did everything he could do…. He was by himself, we were defending the front door and they were shaking it."
A DC Department of Forensic Sciences crime scene examination report also noted that Byrd’s service weapon was turned over to the department. A crime scene examination report also states that police saw a trail of blood from the hallway outside the Speaker’s Lobby doors, that led down to the first floor of the House.
The documents come after Byrd gave his first public interview in August, recounting the events leading up to the shooting, and said firing his weapon was a "last resort option."
https://www.judicialwatch.org/in-the-news/babbitt-internal-police-docs/
Babbitt shooting internal police docs reveal ‘no good reason for shooting,’ according to Judicial Watch
More than 500 pages of internal documents from DC Metropolitan Police concerning the fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt in the Capitol on Jan. 6 reveal witness accounts stating she was not holding a weapon at the time of her death and how "upset" the officer was after shooting her.
"These previously secret records show there was no good reason to shoot and kill Ashli Babbitt," stated Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, which obtained the documents through a May 2021 FOIA lawsuit. "The Biden-Garland Justice Department and the Pelosi Congress have much to answer for the over the mishandling and cover-up of this scandalous killing of an American citizen by the U.S. Capitol Police."
Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was shot and killed during the storming of the Capitol by a bullet fired by Capitol Police officer Lt. Michael Byrd. The documents from the DC Metropolitan Police department show that witnesses did not see Babbitt holding a weapon prior to her being shot, and reveal conflicting accounts of whether Byrd verbally warned Babbitt before shooting her.
A Capitol Police sergeant, whose name is redacted, described seeing Babbitt climbing through a broken window, but did not witness her holding a weapon, according to a portion of the documents received by Judicial Watch.
"Sergeant [redacted] observed a white, female protester was climbing through an opened area where the glass pane had been knocked out. He heard a gunshot and this female fell backwards through the opening. The crowd on the other side of the barricaded east doors, began to step back and some put their hands in the air. Sergeant [redacted] observed Lieutenant Byrd step back just after hearing the gunshot. He did not see anything in the female protester’s hands prior to the gunshot," the Internal Affairs Division report stated.
"Sergeant [redacted] never went on the other side of the barricaded east door. He also did not know that it was Lieutenant Byrd who shot his gun until he talked to him moments after it occurred. Lieutenant Byrd looked upset and stated, ‘I was the one who took the shot,’" the report continued.
Judicial Watch noted that in a written transcript of the interview with the sergeant, he detailed he was not sure "if something happened to" Byrd that "caused him to take the shot or not."
"Uh, I saw Lieutenant Byrd kinda. I don’t know if it was before or after. Cause I was trying to figure this out of, but there was at one point where I remember seeing him and he kind of went like this and then came back up again. Uh, I don’t know if that was from him taking the shot and then stepping back from that shot or if it was before that, I can’t, no matter how I tried to rack my brain, I can’t, I can’t figure out when that happened, but uh, so I don’t know if something happened to him where [sic] caused him to take the shot or not," the written transcript states.
The sergeant went onto describe that Byrd was "visibly upset" after shooting Babbitt.
"No, his eyes were red. He was, you could see he was visibly upset and he just, you know, kind of comfort him and told him, you know, we gotta get outta here," the transcript of the interview states.
The interviewer asked the sergeant if he approached Babbitt after the shot, and he responded, "No, no, no. I maintained my position."
He added that Byrd directed him and other officers to go down "into the subway" following the shooting.
The interviewer also asked: "This was not a typical day, was it?"
"Definitely not my craziest day there," the sergeant replied, saying the closest event to compare it to was "the shots fired back in 2004, 2005 in the Rayburn building ...."
The interview asked the sergeant if Jan. 6 was a "frightening experience," to which the sergeant responded: "Oh yeah. I’m not afraid to say I was, I was scared s--t."
The Internal Affairs Division also conducted a different interview with another Capitol Police officer on Jan. 6, who was positioned directly behind Byrd in the Speaker’s Lobby during the shooting of Babbitt.
"He did not see Ms. McEntee [Babbitt] in possession of any potential weapons," the summary report states.
"He reiterated that he did not observe that she was armed."
That interviewee also described Byrd as "upset" following the shooting.
"Lieutenant Byrd was shaking, he did not say anything…. Byrd was nervous, teary-eyed, and appeared very upset. His voice [was] also shaky when he called for medical assistance over the radio. Lieutenant Byrd was still very upset," the report continued.
That interviewee also said that a man with a beard wearing a suit attended to Babbitt, according to transcripts of the interview. Neither he nor the sergeant interviewed were able to prove the identity of the bearded man in the suit, but said they believe he was with the House Sergeant-at-Arms office.
Yet another report also stated that a sergeant did not see a weapon in Babbitt’s hands before hearing a gunshot. That report added that investigators "recovered 'a para force’ folding knife in Ms. Babbitt’s pants pocket."
"The crowd on the outside of the previously barricaded east doors began to step back, and some raised their hands in the air. Sergeant [redacted] did not see anything in Ms. Babbitt’s hands prior to hearing the gunshot."
Another report on an interview with a Capitol Police officer on Feb. 4 stated, "He did not hear any verbal commands" before Babbitt was shot.
A separate Jan. 6 phone interview with a man who "reached out" to the Metro PD, who claimed to have been in the House Chambers at the time of the shooting, contradicted the officer’s Feb. 4 interview.
He said he did in fact hear Byrd shout "loud verbal commands" that he would "shoot" before firing at Babbitt. That interviewee also claimed Byrd fired twice, not once.
"He was yelling, he was giving commands. Um, he was saying, I will shoot. Uh, he was saying some other stuff. I couldn’t clearly make out what he was saying, but he was definitely, uh, giving commands, no question about it," the interviewee said, according to transcripts.
"He [Byrd], uh, did everything he could do…. He was by himself, we were defending the front door and they were shaking it."
A DC Department of Forensic Sciences crime scene examination report also noted that Byrd’s service weapon was turned over to the department. A crime scene examination report also states that police saw a trail of blood from the hallway outside the Speaker’s Lobby doors, that led down to the first floor of the House.
The documents come after Byrd gave his first public interview in August, recounting the events leading up to the shooting, and said firing his weapon was a "last resort option."
https://www.judicialwatch.org/in-the-news/babbitt-internal-police-docs/
I amazed more TRAITORS were not shot that day
If this happens again hopefully they won't show as much restraint
Is Babbitt still dead?
Don't lie, you'd turn your back on this country in a heartbeat...oh wait, you already have
Yes..and the entire “insurrection” narrative is falling apart as predicted
Last time I checked I was not storming the Capitol on January 6th trying to stop the counting of electoral votes and the peaceful transfer of power
Remember that ?
I'm only asking because I know you morons have a really short memory
Your fellow idiots and TRAITORS were there because they believed THE TRAITORS LIE
THE TRAITOR is still LYING TO THIS VERY DAY and it's still a lie just like it was when he started saying it 11 months ago
Shouldn’t have been there, that shit is a stain on our country and everyone involved needs to be prosecuted. I’m not a democrat as I’m sure strawman can attest but the fact anyone is defending their actions is fucking nuts.
Breach, not breach, verbal command, no verbal command she shouldn’t have been there, play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
Last time you checked you thought you knew what you were talking about, as turns out you’re a retard troll.
I definitely wasn't there on January 6th
It's too bad you weren't there
I know you wanted to be there to help attempt to stop Democracy and install an un-elected Dictator
You don’t seem to quite get that even if she was in all the way standing face to face, SHE WAS UNARMED you fucking moron
She had no business being there and got what exactly what she deserved
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She had no business being there and got what exactly what she deserved
I definitely wasn't there on January 6th
It's too bad you weren't there
I know you wanted to be there to help attempt to stop Democracy and install an un-elected Dictator
Qoach wouldn't do that. His participation in the "revolution" is limited to mass posting on the internet about it.
You know where to find me...just say the word OR you can keep hiding behind the keyboard
Why on earth would anyone hide from a 60 year old dim witted half pint.
You claimed you were coming to FL. But then didn't. ::)
"Nervous"?
Because you’re a big mouth bitch that hides while talking shit….don’t worry about age “sonny boy”
Should we go shoot everyone that destroyed DC in 2016? How about shoot everyone involved in the burning of buildings, police departments while people were still in the building, what about the cop killers…you’re a fucking troll lol
I noticed you add LOL to the end of almost every post you make lately. Why is that? I everything a joke to you?
She was there with bad intentions trying to overturn the will of 81 million Americans. She fucked around. She found out.
She was there with bad intentions trying to overturn the will of 81 million Americans. She fucked around. She found out.
Everyone who entered that building should have been shot.
She was warned not to cross that threshold.
Tried jumping through the window and got railed.
Should had made better life choices.
I do not feel sorry for her at all and i've been a Rep most of my life.
It's not about politics, it's about making stupid choices.
“81 million votes” lol
Lol. Falling apart. Proud member of the Bullets For Babbitt club.
100% falling apart just like everything the left attempts lol
Everyone who entered that building should have been shot.
She was warned not to cross that threshold.
Tried jumping through the window and got railed.
Should had made better life choices.
I do not feel sorry for her at all and i've been a Rep most of my life.
It's not about politics, it's about making stupid choices.
Falling apart like having to type lol in every post because you got nothing else.
Falling apart like the excuses for Maricopa audit when it back fired.
Falling apart like the continued delusions Trumpturds still cling too.
Lol
We’re going disagree on this one and I’ve explained it in detail in the Ashli Babbitt thread
Sure…still falling apart. Every.fucking.thing
I saw the original video of her getting shot.
She knew what she was doing and chose to be in that position.
We all saw it. Plus more. She pose a threat to no one.
She should have kept her ass outside and not acting like a Trumpturdian moron. She would still be alive today.
Cop either had no idea what he was doing or it was intentional...she was murdered
She saw him pointing at gun at her and still persisted in her bullshit?
Her fault. Suicide by cop.
Hahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha ha
Now she is just FALLING APART.Leave Straw (wo)Man out of this!
Cop either had no idea what he was doing or it was intentional...she was murdered
No, she wasn’t.
I have no more sympathy for her than I would with some antifa looter getting shot by the cops during a riot.
No, she wasn’t.
I have no more sympathy for her than I would with some antifa looter getting shot by the cops during a riot.
Yes she was, I’ve given all of my answers in detail within this thread. All I’m getting in return is answers like this with no detail and little explanation. You’re smarter than Luker and Strawman. Those two just troll without thinking..you’re not a troll
Yes she was, I’ve given all of my answers in detail within this thread. All I’m getting in return is answers like this with no detail and little explanation. You’re smarter than Luker and Strawman. Those two just troll without thinking..you’re not a troll
I’ve read your reasoning of why you think she was murdered and/or the cop didn’t have the right to fire on her. I believe you are looking through conservative colored glasses here. Could he have handled it different? Sure. Can you compare this to other left wing riots and show where nobody was shot? Sure.
As it stands now, these cops in the capital building had no clue as to how they were going to act once inside. If you’re a cop and you see hundreds of people storming a building that you are supposed to guard, maybe you’re frightened enough to fear for your life and shoot to stop the surge of people. Fact is, those people had no business in that building. They could’ve just as easily exercised their constitutional right to protest on the steps outside, and all would be alive and we wouldn’t be talking about this a year later. Am I in agreeance with you that this thing gets far more media coverage than the antifa riots that were much more damaging? Hell yes I am. But I won’t stoop to that level and defend this behavior which I believe was wrong and the shooting justified.
Murdered. Hahahhaha. Your delusions are FALLING APART. She was killed in the commission of a crime. If she had acted like she had any sense and kept her ass outside then she would still be alive.
She fucked around.
Bang Bang!!!
She found out.
Seriously, quit trolling and join the discussion or fuck off.
Why wasn’t you there? All this talk about revolution and actually doing something….. what was you doing while she got ventilated for being a criminal? Oh yeah…. You were mass posting on the internet.
She should have governed herself accordingly.
Bullets > bullshit attitude
Guess she should have thought about that. If you think differently, then just show up and see what you get for acting the same way next time.
Oh wait... that would require you to actually get off the internet first.
She wasn't murdered. If you say she was, you are just lying. Which is pretty common for you. So STFU with your weak ass "details" that are nothing more than whining.
She acted the fool and got smoked. If it was murder, why hasn't he been arrested? Too bad he didn't bust caps in more idiots that day.
She wasn't murdered. If you say she was, you are just lying. Which is pretty common for you. So STFU with your weak ass "details" that are nothing more than whining.She was not armed and not pointing a gun at anyone. All she did was climb through a window. ???
She acted the fool and got smoked. If it was murder, why hasn't he been arrested? Too bad he didn't bust caps in more idiots that day.
Dude, seriously. Shut up. You literally have no idea of what you’re talking about besides what hear from your MSM.I agree Coach. He sucks.
She was not armed and not pointing a gun at anyone. All she did was climb through a window. ???
Since when does acting like a fool call for getting smoked with a gun??? She was murdered. Why has the shooter not been charged? Because 1/6 was an inside job just like 9/11.
Why have states like Arizona and Georgia not been decertified? Especially after all the new evidence that came out? Because they are all complicit. Good luck waiting for any justice when the criminals have to hold themselves accountable.
Why has Baldwin not been charged? He has failed to provide his iPhone after it was requested many days ago. Baldwin has not been arrested because he mocked Trump (did a terrible job btw) and the powers that be can't have their homo Trump impersonator discredited.
Lurker, you're better than this - it is not rocket science. I know you have the intellect to understand what's going on. You can do it. Don't be a fool - we all have faith in you.
Dude, seriously. Shut up. You literally have no idea of what you’re talking about besides what hear from your MSM.
"lol"
exactly
Murdered. Not exactly. "lol"
And you can’t explain why it wasn’t just like you weren’t able to explain how there was no voter fraud or why there’s still audits going on. I would ask Strawman the same but you’re on in the same and both have vaginas
Oh there was voter fraud. By TRUMPTURDS. As has been proven.
If she was murdered why isn’t the shooter in jail? I don’t have to explain anything else you retarded geriatric.
How does it feel to get your ass handed to you by someone with a vagina?
Does anyone know where this TRAITOR is buried ?
I might want to stop by and piss on her grave
I know. Shall you and I meet there? Bring that other piece of shit, Lurker with you as well
Proving just how stupid you are.
I know. Shall you and I meet there? Bring that other piece of shit, Lurker with you as well
I'll definitely be pissing on your grave someday and I'm looking forward to itI'd fly you down and put you up somewhere to watch you tell coach to his face that you'd piss on his grave. ;D
Arguing with facts isn't really your strong suit.
Then again, other than lying, nothing is.
And you countering my facts isn’t yours. Obviously. But the fact you’re a coward, I shouldn’t be surprised
I don't have to counter your facts. Everything else does. The fact you are a retard isn't surprising.
Because you or anyone else can’t..simple as that
No one has to prove a negative. I don't have to prove unicorns don't exist either.
You are a retard. Simple as that.
Nothing to see here, move along.
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/01/06/capitol_police_officer_who_shot_ashli_babbitt_refused_to_answer_investigators_questions_810720.html
Cop Who Killed Ashli Babbitt Was Cleared of Criminal Wrongdoing Without Interview
When U.S. Capitol Police Lt. Michael Byrd went on “NBC Nightly News” to tell his side of shooting and killing unarmed Jan. 6 rioter Ashli Babbitt, he made a point to note he’d been investigated by several agencies and exonerated for his actions that day.
“There’s an investigative process [and] I was cleared by the DOJ [Department of Justice], and FBI and [the D.C.] Metropolitan Police,” he told NBC News anchor Lester Holt in August, adding that the Capitol Police also cleared him of wrongdoing and decided not to discipline or demote him for the shooting.
In fact, investigators cleared Byrd of wrongdoing in the shooting without actually interviewing him about the shooting or threatening him with punishment if he did not cooperate with their criminal investigation.
“He didn’t provide any statement to [criminal] investigators and they didn’t push him to make a statement,” Babbitt family attorney Terry Roberts said in an RCI interview. “It’s astonishing how skimpy his investigative file is."
Roberts, who has spoken with the D.C. MPD detective assigned to the case, said the kid-glove treatment of Byrd raises suspicions the investigation was a “whitewash.”
The lawyer's account appears to be backed up by a January 2021 internal affairs report, which notes Byrd "declined to provide a statement,” D.C. MPD documents show.
Asked about it, a D.C. MPD spokeswoman confirmed that Byrd did not cooperate with internal affairs agents or FBI agents, who jointly investigated what was one of the most high-profile officer-involved shooting cases in U.S. history.
FALLING APART. Maybe you should ask Cyber Ninjas to help you find new material.
100% falling apart LOL
you're so fucking stupid you don't even know that you spelled the TRAITOROUS KUNTS name wrongHow does he know your moms name ???
you're so fucking stupid you don't even know that you spelled the TRAITOROUS KUNTS name wrong
Babbitt Tried to Stop Attack on Capitol Speaker’s Lobby, Video Shows
Ashli Babbitt desperately tried to prevent rioters from vandalizing the doors leading to the Speaker’s Lobby at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, even stepping between one troublemaker and police officers guarding the doors, a video footage analysis shows.
Frame-by-frame video evidence analyzed by The Epoch Times paints a vastly different picture of Babbitt’s actions than that portrayed in media accounts over the past year. News media regularly painted Babbitt as “violent,” a “rioter,” or an “insurrectionist” who was angrily trying to breach the Speaker’s Lobby.
Video clips appear to show she tried to prevent the attack, not join it.
Video footage shot by John Sullivan, also known as Jayden X, shows that Babbitt tried to stop the violence against the Speaker’s Lobby at least four times before she climbed into a broken window and was shot by U.S. Capitol Police Lt. Michael Byrd. At one point, she was so distressed at the violence, she jumped up and down in frustration.
The reality of it is, Ashli wasn’t a violent person. She was a good person, but they’ve demonized her to become this domestic terrorist that she never has been,” Tayler Hansen, an independent journalist who was feet away from Babbitt when she was shot, told The Epoch Times.
She served her country for 14 years. That’s just insane to me that they can actually get away with pushing this narrative,” Hansen said. “They’ve done that by suppressing first-hand witnesses like me.”
Hansen said he was walking behind Babbitt in a hallway on the second floor of the Capitol at about 2:40 p.m. She turned right down the Speaker’s Lobby hallway. Hansen followed.
Trapped in Hallway
We didn’t know anything about the building we were in. She turned the corner and I just followed her,” Hansen said. “A big group of people followed us after I followed her. People just kind of emerged on the door. By that time, she was stuck in the corner.
“She was literally trapped there,” Hansen said.
Babbitt, who served in the U.S. Air Force as a military police officer, was chatting with three officers from U.S. Capitol Police and the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia (MPDC).
“About five minutes prior to her getting shot and killed, all of those officers, Officer Yetter and the other officers in the hall, the MPD cops, they were all joking with her and laughing with her,” Hansen said. “They were having conversations and joking and laughing. Then not even five minutes later, Michael Byrd comes and executes her.”
Babbitt confronted rioter Zachary Alam, leaning in between him and one of the police officers guarding the doors. Alam turned away from Babbitt and punched a window to the side of the officer’s head. Babbitt winces just before Alam strikes the window with his right hand. He later uses a helmet to smash the tempered glass.
An audio analysis of video footage taken in the hallway reveals that Babbitt shouted, “Stop! No! Don’t! Wait!” according to her husband, Aaron Babbitt.
“After repeatedly forcing myself to watch the murder of my wife, I have come to my own conclusion that Ashli came to a point of realization that she was in very bad situation and the police weren’t acting appropriately to what she was witnessing,” Aaron Babbitt told The Epoch Times.
“I know my wife very well. She’s not destructive,” Babbitt said. “She was not there to hurt anybody.”
As the three police officers moved away from the Speaker’s Lobby doors, a U.S. Capitol Police Containment Emergency Response Team (CERT) was coming up the stairs, responding to an erroneous police radio report of shots fired.
Standing adjacent to the departing officers, Babbitt peers around them at the men smashing the glass. Her expression is one of shock. She yells at the two rioters.
In Fear for Her Life
Babbitt feared for her life, her husband said, so she climbed into the broken window to escape. Byrd shot her before she got more than partway into the window frame.
“The only way we’d ever know why Ashli felt the window was the only way out is if she had been detained by one of the countless police officers that abandoned their post in front of those doors,” Babbitt said. “That did not happen. She was murdered and robbed of the chance to tell her side of the story.”
Hansen and Sullivan said they didn’t hear any warnings from inside the Speaker’s Lobby before the shot was fired. The protesters were extremely loud. There were conflicting accounts from police officers on both sides of the barricaded door as to whether warning instructions were given before Byrd fired on Babbitt.
Sullivan was the first to notice Byrd’s service pistol aimed at the window. He and Hansen both shouted warnings. “I began yelling: ‘Hey, there’s a gun! He’s got a gun!” Hansen said. “But nobody could hear us. I could barely hear John Sullivan and I was right next to him, because people were screaming and windows were breaking.”
Since there was a gun, I got on the ground because I didn’t know what was going on,” Hansen said. “I figured I’m going to get as low as possible in case there’s any ricochets or any misfires or anything like that. I had my Kevlar vest on, which I always wear when I report
We tried to warn people and they couldn’t hear us—and we were screaming.”
Alam broke out the side window to the right of the double doors because he intended to use it to breach the Speaker’s Lobby, Hansen said. The only reason he didn’t climb through before Babbitt, Hansen said, was because his glasses got knocked down on his face and he stopped to readjust them.
He was about to go through that window,” Hansen said. “It was his idea. He was the one shattering it.”
Babbitt said the situation shows how two people can look at the same video and reach completely different conclusions
“It all comes down to which mental angle a person views it from. If they hate Ashli because they believe the lies, that’s all they see: her being part of a mob,” Aaron Babbitt said. “Us who love her, know her, know every action and emotion she was displaying—she realized a minute before her death she was not in a friendly situation and something very wrong was occurring.”
US Cleared Byrd Without Interviewing Him
The U.S. Department of Justice cleared Byrd of criminal culpability in the shooting death without ever questioning him or taking a statement that explains his actions that day, according to investigative records and the Babbitt family attorney.
Byrd shot Babbitt at 2:44 p.m. as she tried to climb through the broken window. She wasn’t armed.
Byrd met with investigators from the Internal Affairs Division of the MPDC five hours after the shooting. The MPDC investigates officer shootings involving U.S. Capitol Police.
“He did not give a statement to the Internal Affairs Division of the Metropolitan Police Department, which was charged with conducting the investigation after the shooting, and which the U.S. Attorney relied upon to reach his decision not to charge,” Terry Roberts, a Washington D.C. attorney who represents the Babbitt family, told The Epoch Times.
The lead investigator brought Byrd in to question him and Byrd declined,” Roberts said. “He wanted a lawyer present. That means the investigator’s not going to talk to him at that point. It could mean that later, the investigator could approach Byrd and say, ‘Let’s get your lawyer down here and let’s ask you questions.’ That never happened.”
A U.S. Capitol Police sergeant who was posted at the double doors to the Speaker’s Lobby just before the shooting told an internal affairs investigator he left his post out of fear for his safety. He moved aside “due to the rioters surging towards them” and then “made a decision to leave the area and began to move towards the east stairwell,” a Metropolitan Police Department report stated.
If we didn’t have that stairwell down there, I thought they were going to kill us,” the sergeant said. If the stairwell had not offered them an escape route, “we would have been forced” to use deadly force, he said.
Another officer who was near the Speaker’s Lobby doors said he didn’t hear any warnings to the crowd. “Prior to moving away from the Speaker’s Lobby doors, officer [redacted] did not hear any verbal commands coming from any of the USCP officers that were inside the Speaker’s Lobby,” an internal affairs report stated.
I’ll finish this up later
https://www.theepochtimes.com/babbitt-tried-to-stop-attack-on-capitol-speakers-lobby-video-shows_4216934.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=thethinkingconservative
;D
Epoch Times?
Ashli Babbitt Pleaded With Police to Call for Backup Moments Before She Was Shot and Killed
Just moments before she was shot and killed, Ashli Babbitt confronted the police officers guarding the doors to the Speaker’s Lobby at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, blasting them for allowing rioters to smash the windows and not calling for backup, an analysis of a journalist’s video shows.
The analysis comes on the heels of recent disclosures that Babbitt tried at least four other times to stop the assault on the Speaker’s Lobby. It shows her desperation when the rioters were left unchecked, even smashing a window just inches from a police officer’s head.
In the video—shot by independent journalist Tayler Hansen—Babbitt, 35, is seen trailing rioter Zachary Alam, attempting to get between him and one of three police officers at the Speaker’s Lobby double doors.
Alam, who was arrested by the FBI on Jan. 30, 2021, bashes the window in the double doors twice.
The first time, he grabs one police officer’s shoulder with his left hand, then punches between him and another officer, striking the window, the video shows.
“Chill out! Chill the [expletive] out, bro!” someone shouts. “Hey! Chill out!”
“These guys work for us!” someone in the crowd interjects.
“You gonna shoot him?” another person asks.
A bearded man in a red Trump cap complains that they are not being allowed into the Speaker’s Lobby. “Mother [expletive]! We don’t want to hurt nobody. We just want to go in the House.”
Tried to Dissuade Rioter
Babbitt tries to get in between Alam and one of the officers. She says something to Alam, but he brushes her off. Alam then cranks up his right arm and punches the window next to the officer. Within a few seconds, Babbitt blows up at the officers for allowing the violence and vandalism.
Call [expletive] help!” Babbitt shouts, jumping up and down in front of the officers. “We’re allowed to be here!”
“You could tell that she was definitely getting upset,” Hansen said while reviewing the video with The Epoch Times. “She was calm when she first got there. Then as the destruction continued and as more people started to fill in and it got more dangerous, that’s when you can tell she was getting really upset.”
Babbitt served as a police officer in the U.S. Air Force during her 14 years of military service. Her husband, Aaron, said her law enforcement experience likely told her something was wrong.
“I believe she saw their inaction as odd or off, and was ultimately confused as to what was happening,” Aaron Babbitt told The Epoch Times. “She was a take-charge kind of person. Her frustrations show that the cops who should’ve been taking charge—weren’t.”
“I’d only seen bits and pieces and never fully put together,” Aaron Babbitt said of the video. “I can hear the confused panic in her voice.”
He said the video makes him sad, since his role as a husband is to protect his wife. He stayed in San Diego to run the couple’s small business while Ashli attended the Trump rally in Washington. She was trapped in the hallway, and claustrophobic.
“She had no friends in that room,” Babbitt said. “I always go back to no one would’ve ever watched out for (her) like I always did. Very helpless.”
Babbitt said he hopes the video analysis gives the public a better understanding of the chaos in the hallway.
“I’ve known something was off with the whole situation from day one,” Babbitt said. “Hopefully this gives other people a different perspective—or at a minimum makes someone take a second look with a different mindset.”
“What I think it was from reviewing the footage and just from knowing what I know about Ashli from the family, is she probably got claustrophobic,” Hansen said, “because more people and more people kept pouring in and she realized she was in a bad situation. So then she pushed her way over to the window area
Once that window broke, I think she realized this was going to be bad for the people inside if they were actually able to breach these doors entirely,” Hansen said. “I think she wanted to be the first one through that window so she could kind of safeguard it, honestly. If she can get to the other side of the window where officers are, in her mind she would be safe.”
Hansen said he just discovered an Instagram live-stream video he shot on Jan. 6 that shows Babbitt as she first turned the corner into the Speaker’s Lobby hallway. He said it confirms what he told The Epoch Times on Jan. 17, that Babbitt was friendly with the police officers when she first approached the doors.
Ashli just walks right up to them and just seems super happy; doesn’t know what she’s about to walk into. She was joking with the cops right before Byrd put a bullet into her.”
Hansen said he first encountered Ashli in the Capitol Rotunda as she entered the building by herself. He next saw her as he emerged from a room with George Washington’s portrait on the wall, then followed her to the Speaker’s Lobby hallway. They were the first two to reach the double doors.
Encounter Started with Calm
“It shows her and me just walking right up to the door with Officer Yetter and all the other cops and she starts talking to them.”
Hansen also captured the moment Lt. Michael Byrd shot Babbitt as she stepped up into the open window frame to the right of the double doors. The bedlam in the hallway quickly turned to panic—and anger.
“There’s an active shooter here! Get her down!” Hansen shouts.
“She needs help! She needs [expletive] help!” someone screams.
A man off camera reaches in at the 38-second mark of the video and check’s Babbitt’s neck for a pulse. “She’s gone, guys.”
“We can’t [inaudible] if you’re here!” a police officer shouts at the crowd. “We’ve got to get EMS here!”
Back up guys, back up!”
An officer leaning over the stairway railing, shouts, “She’s going to [expletive] die! You want to be next?” he says
“Go, go! Everyone get the [expletive] away!”
If there is a riot and doors are barricaded with chairs, it should be enough to tell you that youre not allowed. When she climbed through the door, she presented a clear and present danger to members of congress and police officers. She should have went home or stayed home. She earned every millimeter of that bullet and her free trial to life expired.
She fucked up...and found out
If there is a riot and doors are barricaded with chairs, it should be enough to tell you that youre not allowed. When she climbed through the door, she presented a clear and present danger to members of congress and police officers. She should have went home or stayed home. She earned every millimeter of that bullet and her free trial to life expired.
She fucked up...and found out
https://twitter.com/tomfitton/status/1484210595276730370?s=21
CONFIRMED: Pelosi Congress hiding videos linked to homicide of Ashli Babbitt...
C'mon Coach, if Babbit was wearing a burka ,yelling 'praise Allah' ,
you'd be fine if they shot her with a bazooka. ;)
Boom! Hall of fame bound Mr. Goodrum.
C'mon Coach, if Babbit was wearing a burka ,yelling 'praise Allah' ,
you'd be fine if they shot her with a bazooka. ;)
You really don’t know the difference between right and wrong do you? You really don’t know even as a former Marine window apply lethal force, do you? I’ve laid it out there isn’t one fucking liberal Marxist on this entire site out of all the thousands of members on here that can make their case as far as her being shot in a tactical situation. Not one. Michael bird should’ve not of had a gun in the first place he had absolutely no idea what he was doing none
And it doesn’t surprise me that none of you fucking idiots you straw Lurker etc. red one word of the article that I posted that presented the facts. Do you want to keep believing the same people who have been lying to you and getting caught red-handed for the last five years as opposed to what’s been presented in these articles and everywhere else that goes against the insurrection farce
I think you've both forgotten that Trumptards have clearly defined double standardsCan you show us where Ashley (the only person killed on Jan 6th) struck any officers with a metal flagpole or fire extinguisher?
When a Anthony Huber swung his skateboard at Kyle Rittenhouse that skateboard was a deadly weapon but when Trumptards hit police officers with metal flagpoles and fire extinguishers neither of those are "weapons" in the eyes of Trumptards
Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruise agreed that when BLM protestors destroy property and fight with police that they are domestic terrorists but when Trumptards destroy property and fight with police they are NOT domestic terrorists
Can you show us where Ashley (the only person killed on Jan 6th) struck any officers with a metal flagpole or fire extinguisher?
Maybe you should learn to spell the dumb kunts name before you start telling about about right and wrong
People are saying that she had a skateboardWhere did I say I cared about her, you fucking moron?
If you care so much about her maybe you should learn to spell her name
Well maybe in the next lifetime she will remember this lesson and keep her moronic ass at home.
Fuck you. I’m driving and I’m using my voice to text. And the next time you spell Ted Cruz’s name. It’s spelled CRUZ fuckhead. Unlike you I have a job
Where did I say I cared about her, you fucking moron?
C'mon Coach, if Babbit was wearing a burka ,yelling 'praise Allah' ,
you'd be fine if they shot her with a bazooka. ;)
I'd fly you down and put you up somewhere to watch you tell coach to his face that you'd piss on his grave. ;D
Well maybe in the next lifetime she will remember this lesson and keep her moronic ass at home.
Oh good, the other clueless one chimed in. That’s two cowards that chimed in
thats what your ma thought after the bbc train was run on her
You really don’t know the difference between right and wrong do you? You really don’t know even as a former Marine window apply lethal force, do you? I’ve laid it out there isn’t one fucking liberal Marxist on this entire site out of all the thousands of members on here that can make their case as far as her being shot in a tactical situation. Not one. Michael bird should’ve not of had a gun in the first place he had absolutely no idea what he was doing noneMs Babbit broke the law and tried to force her way into a prohibited GOV area.
And it doesn’t surprise me that none of you fucking idiots you straw Lurker etc. red one word of the article that I posted that presented the facts. Do you want to keep believing the same people who have been lying to you and getting caught red-handed for the last five years as opposed to what’s been presented in these articles and everywhere else that goes against the insurrection farce.
GoodNo, fuck you. :)
Then STFU about her
if a white cop killed a black person during the setup "insurrection' they (dems) would be up in arms to hang the cop, no matter what the person may have been doing wrong
riots would have broken out the guy would have went to jail
people can think what they want howie the cuck and dont need youre normal preaching
pretty embarrassing shit on md you post nonstop over there
odd ball
I wonder why the Trump Administration didn't prepare for the attack on our Capitol on January 6thMaybe because it was not expected to be violent, unlike a blm riot, you stupid fuck.
Ms Babbit broke the law and tried to force her way into a prohibited GOV area.
The use of deadly force was authorized and a detailed follow up investigation backed the officer's action.
Official verdict - case closed.
11 members of 'Oat Keepers' including their leader are now indicted for 'conspiracy of sedition'.
So, Jan 6 is now legally considered an insurrection.
You're welcome to your opinions , not your own facts.
I wonder why the Trump Administration didn't prepare for the attack on our Capitol on January 6th the same way they prepared for BLM protests held in DC in June of 2020
Do you think that crowd of traitors would have still made it into the building on January 6th
I wonder why the Trump Administration didn't prepare for the attack on our Capitol on January 6th the same way they prepared for BLM protests held in DC in June of 2020
Do you think that crowd of traitors would have still made it into the building on January 6th
Wait.... you mean that Trumpy didn't put out a call for the National Guard that Nancy cancelled? "lol"
That is what Qoach claims even though evidence showed different. Now his little lie is just FALLING APART.
Wait….yes he did. You know why you get owned so much?
coach arguing with the breain-dead can get exhausting
for strawdouche and lurkingforboys always coming to pant-shitters defense shows really how deranged they are
like bottom of barrel as his own party wants nothing to do with him anymore
only the true braindead zombie traitors remain
and for an ex-president to cause them so much daily grief is also comical
the must beat their boyfriends and moms on a daily basis
live from the cellar
Projection much?
.
Still the POTUS. Even for retards like you.
Still the POTUS. Even for retards like you.
yup
pant-shitter of the us
glad you support him
while banging your dad
POTUS even for closet queers like you.
wow good one ::)
just cause i fukk your dads ass im not queer
he did transition at least
NEW: Ashli Babbitt punched Zachary Alam in an effort to stop him from breaching the window. This was right after the cops decided to evacuate—
She was trying to stop the attack on the windows and was visibly frustrated with Police inaction.
Watch:
https://twitter.com/taylerusa/status/1486042742270607360?s=21
So?
Who knows if she was the person punching the other person or why she did it
Doesn't really matter since she CLEARLY got shot trying to climb through the broken window you dumb fuck
You can watch the "peaceful protestor" being shot from two different angle only as she is climbing through the broken window
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-shooting-that-led-to-ashli-babbitt-s-death-captured-on-video-99180613572
You really need to start paying attention and quit making an ass of yourself
You really need to start taking your own "advices"
Watch the video and you will clearly see thatshe got shot trying to climb through the broken window you dumb fuck
This is you
“Look at these losers defending the shooting of an unarmed woman and acting like they know more than a first hand witness.”
https://twitter.com/taylerusa/status/1486098074929934351?s=21
So
who gives a fuck what some Trumptard on Twitter thinks
Is that really the best you you can do
Again for the short bus crowd you can watch the video and see the moment that she made the fatal move that led to her getting shotshe got shot trying to climb through the broken window you dumb fuck
God you’re a moron. No wonder why everything you post falls apart. I give you a guy that was there and took the video and you think some second hand hearsay bullshit is gold
“I had been yelling and screaming,” Byrd said in an interview broadcast Thursday night, “‘Please stop, get back, get back, stop.’”
Video posted online by multiple witnesses that day showed that Babbitt, an Air Force veteran wearing a Stars and Stripes backpack and a Trump flag as a cape, was shot by Byrd as she climbed through the shattered window of the barricaded Speaker’s Lobby door, which was all that separated the mob of Trump supporters from members of Congress.
The officer’s statement matches the account of a fellow member of the pro-Trump mob, Thomas Baranyi, who caught Babbitt as she fell back. Baranyi, who still had Babbitt’s blood on his hand when he spoke to a local news crew outside the Capitol minutes later, said that “a number of police and Secret Service were saying, ‘Get back, get down, get out of the way.’ She didn’t heed the call.”
And I gave you two videos showing two different angles of her getting shot only after she chose to climb through the broken window (broken by "peaceful protestors")
She was the only person trying to climb through the broken window of the barricaded Speaker’s Lobby door, which was all that separated the mob of Trump supporters from members of Congress.
She was repeatedly told to stay out yet she chose to attempt to climb through a window where armed police pointing guns at her had repeatedly told her to stay out
She made a really really stupid move by attempting to climb through that window and she paid for it with her life. I would hope that not even a phony "coach" would be that stupid. When a cop is pointing a gun at you and telling you to stay back it's pretty obvious that the correct course of action is to stay to the fuck back.
She was cornered and realized she wasn't among "friendlies". She was actually trying to escape what was going on behind her.
Bullshit
watch the video and you'll see people walking down the stairs while she is climbing through a window with cops on the other side pointing guns and her and telling he to stop
She could have very easily turned about and walked down the stair just like you see other people doing before and at the moment that she was shot
It's been said before but bears repeating. She fucked around. She found out.
She was the only person who tried to climb through that window and the only person who got shot
I assume it's pretty obvious to everyone here that when a cop is pointing a gun at you and telling you not do something then it's probably a good choice to follow those instructions
She's a fucking idiot
End of story
End of story says who? You? Trump haters? Pelosi? kinzinger? Cheney? The entire fucking narrative is not only falling apart but fell apart because it makes no sense. Being the fucking idiot you are, you just repeat the Stalinist narrative
It's the end of her story. Says who? Said that piece of lead that dropped her stupid ass to the ground and put her out of mortal existence.
She was not a peaceful protester, she was not obeying orders. She had crossed the line from Fucking Around and was in Found Out territory. And guess what? All the lies you tell and all the bullshit you spew are not going to change that, nor change the facts of her actions that we have seen on the video. Had she kept her stupid ass at home, her stupid ass would be alive right now. She didn't. So she's not. But at least she went out doing something and not just sitting on the internet mass posting lies while getting her ass handed to her daily like you do.
Keep listening to your commie propaganda and I’ll keep handing you your ass. Simple as that. Admit it, you didn’t read one thing I posted and if you didn’t, fuck you
lol
straw and jurkerforboys
their bleeding vaginas showing bigtime here
along with their ma's peen's and dad's vuvla's
::)
brainless
You haven't handed anyone their ass. No one has to read anything from you to know it is pure bullshit. We know you are retarded and can't help it. But it doesn't mean reality and facts change because you are too mentally insipid to know the difference.
You keep thinking that, string bean.
I - and others - will continue to think that Mr. Fake Birth Certificate Sex Shop In A Basement That Didn't Exist Hillary Going To Jail Covid Assassination Taliban Hanging People From US Helicopters retard.
Sure string bean. Whatever you say. For 13 straight years you and the rest of you retard leftist buddies have 0-1000. All leftist failures and you didn’t learn from one.
Did you miss this part ?
Mr. Fake Birth Certificate Sex Shop In A Basement That Didn't Exist Hillary Going To Jail Covid Assassination Taliban Hanging People From US Helicopters retard.
Want to address those little gems that got your ass kicked for the past 13 years? "lol" Or maybe the news articles you post that you don't (or can't) read that blow up in your face? hahahahahaha
Nope. Didn’t miss that AT ALL. On another note, the best news of the day so far is Pelosi isn’t retiring 😂
Didn't miss it, but didn't comment on it. Why is that? You don't like discussing how your little bullshit lies and CTs got your ass stuck back in your face so easily? hahahahahahaha
Best News Of The Day - Biden may get to appoint a new SC justice if Breyer retires.
Don’t need to comment. I already have. You’re the queen of going through post histories. Remember?
End of story says who? You? Trump haters? Pelosi? kinzinger? Cheney? The entire fucking narrative is not only falling apart but fell apart because it makes no sense. Being the fucking idiot you are, you just repeat the Stalinist narrative
The investigation is done. The shooting was justified.
End of story
You can keep whining about it all you want and I'm sure you will because that is all you idiots ever do
Why don't you try pretending she was an unarmed black man selling cigarettes or passing a phony $20 bill and then I'm sure you'll feel deadly force was totally justified.
Oh look, Lurkingforboys alter ego. No..the investigation isn’t done. You should read more…Karl
The shooting was so justified that Byrd wouldn’t talk to investigators and they dismissed it without an interview…clown
Oh look, Lurkingforboys alter ego. No..the investigation isn’t done. You should read more…Karl
The shooting was so justified that Byrd wouldn’t talk to investigators and they dismissed it without an interview…clown
Many people are saying that the Cyberninja's are now investigating this
Some people are saying that Ashli Babbitt was really a Chinese agent and that her passport was printed on bamboo
Other people are saying that she was really just a hologram
You should pass that around to you fellow right wing retards so they can look into that
Newsflash : She’s still dead.
Yesshe was murderedcommitted suicide via stupidity.
;D
Michael Byrd had no business even having a weapon. I said that long ago
Did you start camp with Cheick yet? Do you think he retires win or lose after the Bader fight? Wonder what his contract status is?
Yes she was murdered.
And yet the courts and legal system disagree with you. Again. No big surprise.
She fucked around. She found out. She won't make that mistake - or any others - ever again.
Bang Bang
Yes she was murdered.
Wrong - just like you're wrong about virtually everything
Hey, how's the long covid treating you. Are you still spending all your time exhausted on the couch?
Did you see the latest news that even mild cases of covid lead to brain damage
https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2022/03/14/covid-19-long-term-brain-injury/?sh=5a3ce8ee454c
Luckily for you, you're so fucking stupid that it probably won't make much difference.
Wrong - just like you're wrong about virtually everything
Hey, how's the long covid treating you. Are you still spending all your time exhausted on the couch?
Did you see the latest news that even mild cases of covid lead to brain damage
https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2022/03/14/covid-19-long-term-brain-injury/?sh=5a3ce8ee454c
Luckily for you, you're so fucking stupid that it probably won't make much difference.
And just like that......He's back! You've been missed. No homo.
YOU could post up a hundred links and you’d still be wrong. I’ve already proved it, Karl
All you've ever proven is that you're a certified moron
Doesn’t help your fake case, Karl
there is no "case" dipshit
You're a certified moron and Ashli Babbit wasn't murdered
both of those "cases" are closed.
Hey, did you see her idiot brother in the news recently
And just like that......He's back! You've been missed. No homo.I can tell by all the threads started asking where straw was.
150lb Trumpturd vs a piece of lead weighing a few ounces.
That is about as much of a match up as any Trumpturd - no matter what they weigh - vs simple facts. They get killed.
150lb Trumpturd vs a piece of lead weighing a few ounces.
That is about as much of a match up as any Trumpturd - no matter what they weigh - vs simple facts. They get killed.
Have to ask why you and your other libtard buddies keep coming back for more ass beatings?
You gonna fight in a civil war with a few oz lead? 😂
Stay in your basement, Benito. We got this lol
Who said it was a few ounces? Shit that cop is a marksman. One shot, one kill.
Civil war? hahahahaha. You won't be doing anything but posting on the internet if it does happen. ::)
“ 150lb Trumpturd vs a piece of lead weighing a few ounces.” - Lurkingforboys