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Title: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 14, 2021, 07:31:11 PM
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/trump-blasts-bidens-afghan-exit-strategy-driven-weakness
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 15, 2021, 04:39:10 AM
Why don’t you comment on these articles instead of just pasting the link? If you’re waiting for someone to speak first, why not just give your opinion of the article to get the conversation going?

Bottom line, we needed to be out of there, Biden’s withdrawal was part of a plan Trump set in action. I got no problems with the handling of this. It was always going to be messy, because no matter how much training and how many hundreds of billions of dollars we provided their army, they laid the fuck down. They were 300,000 strong and got beat by 60,000 in ten days. They don’t want our way of life. Maybe the women do, since for the last 20 years they’ve gotten a taste of freedoms, but the men don’t. Otherwise they would’ve fought for their homeland.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IroNat on August 15, 2021, 07:02:43 AM
The men can go back to their patriarchal society where women are subservient.

No wonder they won't fight.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 15, 2021, 08:34:12 AM
The men can go back to their patriarchal society where women are subservient.

No wonder they won't fight.

They watched the West and saw what could be and didn’t like it I guess. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2021, 09:00:22 AM
Biden is making otwink look competent.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 15, 2021, 02:35:32 PM
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/trump-blasts-bidens-afghan-exit-strategy-driven-weakness


There is no more Afghanistan, ask Joe Biden WHY  ???
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: WeightPSHR on August 15, 2021, 06:57:09 PM
Everything Biden touches turns in to a disaster.

I love how he tried to bakme Trump....he wasn't mentioning anything about Trump last week when he was taking credit for leaving Afghanistan.

I feel for all the families that lost a loved one over there. Seems pointless now.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 15, 2021, 07:31:45 PM
Why don’t you comment on these articles instead of just pasting the link? If you’re waiting for someone to speak first, why not just give your opinion of the article to get the conversation going?

Bottom line, we needed to be out of there, Biden’s withdrawal was part of a plan Trump set in action. I got no problems with the handling of this. It was always going to be messy, because no matter how much training and how many hundreds of billions of dollars we provided their army, they laid the fuck down. They were 300,000 strong and got beat by 60,000 in ten days. They don’t want our way of life. Maybe the women do, since for the last 20 years they’ve gotten a taste of freedoms, but the men don’t. Otherwise they would’ve fought for their homeland.

What do you want me to comment on? The obvious? Of course we should be pulling out of Afghanistan but now was not the time and no, Biden didn’t follow anything Trump put into place for a safe withdrawal. Biden’s abruptly pulled our troops and within a week the Taliban overwhelmed the Afghani’s and promptly took over....Biden had no plan 2 in case something went wrong which is why he risked sending back in 3000 troops and now 5000 with no plan. Now we’re surrendering to the Taliban who we once defeated.

All he has to do was follow the plan but instead he decided to do it his way which, as usual, blew up in his face possibly costing our troops lives
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 15, 2021, 08:24:10 PM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-thousands-run-at-kabul-airfield-amid-gunfire-horrifying-scenes-unfolding-on-ground?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro&fbclid=IwAR236HNaGxvJgzE3OLmaAFuYx_EJB246bJNDSzkopfp6pLfOQBDots872-w
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Moontrane on August 15, 2021, 10:22:17 PM
Mostly peaceful beheadings, rapes, forced marriages, and executions.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: residue on August 16, 2021, 07:35:00 AM
who gives a fuck, it's their country let them run it however they want.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 16, 2021, 08:16:46 AM
Let’s cut the shit.

Joe RAPIST Biden is not running the country, he does not have the mental faculties to even take care of himself. The Biden administration failure in Afghanistan is a complete dereliction of duty.

Stop with the crap about freedom and Mideast stability. These wars are fought for oil resources and so that politicians can wash a few trillion dollars of taxpayer money through the military complex and back into their own pockets.

It took 20 years for the truth to be exposed. I’m hoping the exposure of the COVID hoax will only take half that amount of time.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 16, 2021, 08:59:27 AM
Let’s cut the shit.

Joe RAPIST Biden is not running the country, he does not have the mental faculties to even take care of himself. The Biden administration failure in Afghanistan is a complete dereliction of duty.

Stop with the crap about freedom and Mideast stability. These wars are fought for oil resources and so that politicians can wash a few trillion dollars of taxpayer money through the military complex and back into their own pockets.

It took 20 years for the truth to be exposed. I’m hoping the exposure of the COVID hoax will only take half that amount of time.


Geee, Taliban fighters a not affected by Covid BS !!!.

Can Dr.Fauci explain that !.

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 16, 2021, 10:13:28 AM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: TheGrinch on August 16, 2021, 10:48:14 AM
Can't even imagine the rage if someone's son/daughter died in the last 20 years fighting for this nonsense there now that it was ALL for nothing
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IroNat on August 16, 2021, 11:17:42 AM
Can't even imagine the rage if someone's son/daughter died in the last 20 years fighting for this nonsense there now that it was ALL for nothing

All wars are senseless.

How about the service members that get run over by a tank in training? 

Or die in a  crash in a practice flight?

Now that is meaningless.

Do not join America's all-volunteer military if you can't accept the risk.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 16, 2021, 11:21:58 AM
Just a sad situation.  It didn't have to be this way.  We haven't had a combat death in Afghanistan in well over a year.  We probably should have left our small force there, like we did in South Korea and Germany.  It's like these people learned nothing from history.  It's not like we didn't have a recent example in Iraq. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 16, 2021, 11:24:55 AM
 :-\

Robert Gates, who served as defense secretary for the Obama administration, paused for a moment and said "I don't know" in an interview Sunday when asked if he thinks former VP Joe Biden would be a good president.

CBS's "Face The Nation" host Margaret Brennan asked Gates if he stood by a statement from his memoir that Biden has "been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades."

. . .

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/05/13/gates_stands_by_statement_that_biden_has_been_wrong_on_nearly_every_major_foreign_policy_question.html
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IroNat on August 16, 2021, 12:11:18 PM
I think the Dems want to reduce military spending and re-direct that spending to domestic issues, thus the impetus for a quick, complete withdrawal.

I'm glad we are leaving but the management of this has been a disgrace.

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 16, 2021, 01:57:10 PM
I think the Dems want to reduce military spending and re-direct that spending to domestic issues, thus the impetus for a quick, complete withdrawal.

I'm glad we are leaving but the management of this has been a disgrace.


Has nothing to do with $$$. Every action puppet Xiden takes lessens the USA standing, reputation and world influence. The puppet strings reach all the way to Asia.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: loco on August 16, 2021, 01:58:38 PM
To me this whole withdrawing troops from Afghanistan seems like a trap that Trump set for Biden in the final days of his administration.  It worked.

Withdrawing is the right decision in my opinion, but it's something no president really wanted actually happening on their watch because of fear of the backlash Biden is now facing.  I think everyone in Washington knew the Afghan government wouldn't survive once US troops withdrew and that the whole thing would be a huge mess. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 16, 2021, 02:45:05 PM
Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta: "I strongly recommend to President Biden that he take responsibility, admit the mistakes that were made."
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 16, 2021, 05:23:38 PM
Let’s cut the shit.

Joe RAPIST Biden is not running the country, he does not have the mental faculties to even take care of himself. The Biden administration failure in Afghanistan is a complete dereliction of duty.

Stop with the crap about freedom and Mideast stability. These wars are fought for oil resources and so that politicians can wash a few trillion dollars of taxpayer money through the military complex and back into their own pockets.

It took 20 years for the truth to be exposed. I’m hoping the exposure of the COVID hoax will only take half that amount of time.


💪💪💪
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 16, 2021, 05:39:19 PM
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Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Moontrane on August 16, 2021, 05:50:20 PM
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One would think that the helos, humvees, and vehicles would have at least been disabled.  Dafuq is coming down the pike?  :-[
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 16, 2021, 06:37:53 PM
One would think that the helos, humvees, and vehicles would have at least been disabled.  Dafuq is coming down the pike?  :-[

They could take 2 USAF Globemasters C17 @ the Kabul International too ............ :-\
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: TheGrinch on August 16, 2021, 10:26:16 PM
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Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 16, 2021, 11:59:44 PM
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No way, no fat Talibanis + they love new Hummers !.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Howard on August 17, 2021, 04:06:31 PM
Mostly peaceful beheadings, rapes, forced marriages, and executions.

The USA and our allies were never going to change the barbaric CULTURE of many Afghans.
Far too many there believe crap like Sharia Law and woman in bee keeper suits is " Gods Law" .

I reject those Taliban a-holes and but look at the loony " true believers", right here in the USA.

LOOK at our home grown  zealots of conspiracy based nonsense ,who think a covid vaccine is GOV poison . ::)



Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 17, 2021, 04:19:42 PM
The USA and our allies were never going to change the barbaric CULTURE of many Afghans.
Far too many there believe crap like Sharia Law and woman in bee keeper suits is " Gods Law" .

I reject those Taliban a-holes and but look at the loony " true believers", right here in the USA.

LOOK at our home grown  zealots of conspiracy based nonsense ,who think a covid vaccine is GOV poison . ::)


Hey COWARD, Joe Biden must be @ the top of his "popularity" !.



Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: WeightPSHR on August 17, 2021, 06:47:07 PM
The USA and our allies were never going to change the barbaric CULTURE of many Afghans.
Far too many there believe crap like Sharia Law and woman in bee keeper suits is " Gods Law" .

I reject those Taliban a-holes and but look at the loony " true believers", right here in the USA.

LOOK at our home grown  zealots of conspiracy based nonsense ,who think a covid vaccine is GOV poison . ::)

Have there been issues with vaccines in our history? Ever heard of swine flu and the vaccines?

Crazy to think people haven't forgotten about that now isn't it? Big Pharma and the FDA just want what's best for us, right?

Ever hear of a drug called Oxycontin? I hope you know the history of that drug and how pharma and the FDA handled it? I could most MANY more examples.

Are you still mad you were told the covid vaccine would bring 'normal' back....only to be masked up and likely to catch covid despite being vaccinated? Post vaccinated isn't what you expected now is it?

 To think some people are skeptical is just insanity. Lol



Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: loco on August 18, 2021, 03:23:55 AM
To me this whole withdrawing troops from Afghanistan seems like a trap that Trump set for Biden in the final days of his administration.  It worked.

Withdrawing is the right decision in my opinion, but it's something no president really wanted actually happening on their watch because of fear of the backlash Biden is now facing.  I think everyone in Washington knew the Afghan government wouldn't survive once US troops withdrew and that the whole thing would be a huge mess.

'Real chance' Afghanistan withdrawal 'destroys' Biden presidency

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/real-chance-afghanistan-withdrawal-destroys-biden-presidency-analyst-174826129.html
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 18, 2021, 05:46:26 AM
Afghanistan: an Intelligence Failure Bigger than 9/11
Townhall.com ^ | August 18, 2021 | Bob Barr
Posted on 8/18/2021, 7:05:09 AM by Kaslin

Like most Americans, the debacle surrounding the fall of Afghanistan’s capital city to the Taliban caused me great concern. In fact, we are witnessing failures of leadership decision-making and foreign intelligence analysis worse than any in modern history; certainly, worse than the failures that lead to the terrorist attacks of 9/11.

To a degree, this conclusion is based on my personal experiences of having lived in that part of the world in my youth (I graduated from high school in Tehran, for example), having worked at the CIA for eight years in the 1970s, and having served in the Congress before, during, and after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Even without this background, however, the many negative short and long-term ramifications of this debacle cannot be overestimated.

Broadly speaking, there is more than enough blame to go around leading to the dismal situation in Afghanistan that President Biden inherited on January 20th, including mistakes by all three of his immediate predecessors (one Democrat and two Republican). But the final series of decisions – or non-decisions – leading directly to this fiasco, were made by this administration, and efforts by Biden to shift blame to others is an act of cowardice.

The lenses through which this administration viewed events in Afghanistan were deep rose-colored. This caused them to overlook the otherwise obvious weaknesses in both the Afghan military and its civilian government. They persisted in the narrative that the fall of Kabul to the Taliban was only a “possibility,” and certainly not an “inevitability.” Even worse, they concluded that this possibility was months away, and therefore we had adequate time to arrange for an orderly exit.

Last weekend’s collapse of both the Afghan civilian leadership and its military was either not foreseen at all by Biden, or even worse its fact was presented to him and ignored.

Regardless of which of these two horrible options prevailed over the past several weeks, during the course of 20 years, 2,300 military lives lost, and two trillion dollars, it appears that the Intelligence Community screwed up so badly as to make the pre-9/11 intelligence failure pale by comparison.

Whether our military leadership tried to save face after failing to mold the Afghan army into some semblance of a fighting force after two decades of tutorial, or whether civilian intelligence is simply that ineffective in the Middle East (even inside a country the U.S. government effectively ran), there is no legitimate way to attribute the gulf between expectations and reality in Afghanistan to a “miscommunication” or “bad intel.”

What appears to have happened is beyond fundamentally incompetent, and borders on intentional and deceptive.

The intelligence shortcomings resulting in our failure to stop the 9/11 terror attacks were devastating, but for the most part played out behind the scenes. Also, the 9/11 attacks were an American tragedy; they did not undercut our reputation with allies, or adversaries. If anything, the attacks engendered a rare bit of empathy from the international community, while providing an opportunity to remind the world the dangers of awakening the “sleeping giant filled with terrible resolve.”

Afghanistan’s fall is far different. The intelligence failures here happened in real-time, on live television, across the world. Worse, rather than being exclusively an American blunder, the international coalition of allies who helped with the U.S. effort means the decades of blood and treasure lost this week are theirs to share as well. There is no question their anger and distrust will reverberate years down the road if the United States seeks future coalitions.

America’s adversaries will be emboldened at our stunning defeat in Afghanistan. Already China is looking to move into the vacuum left in America’s wake, and seizing the opportunity to escalate saber-rattling over Taiwan. Their enhanced foothold in the Middle East will be employed to weaken ours. Had policy makers in Washington – Republican and Democrat – cared to read the long history of China and the so-called “Silk Road,” some in Washington might have seen this coming; but apparently not.

American citizens and the rest of the freedom-loving world, deserve better than what our Intelligence Community has become – a dangerous hive of self-serving bureaucrats.

As with the 9/11 Commission, Congress owes it to us all to find the truth behind the fall of Afghanistan, and the role America’s civilian and military intelligence services played in the government’s decision-making. If answers and learning do not then follow, the damage to our national security will be brutal and long-lasting.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: OzmO on August 18, 2021, 08:03:56 AM
What a shit show.   

Here is an opportunity for the Left on this board to show they are not brainwashed drones.

There is a good chance this will stain his presidency making it impossible for re-election
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: WeightPSHR on August 18, 2021, 09:00:00 AM
What a shit show.   

Here is an opportunity for the Left on this board to show they are not brainwashed drones.

There is a good chance this will stain his presidency making it impossible for re-election

This is the biggest sign of incompetency that I've ever seen by a President in my lifetime. This is a disaster on so many levels. 20 years of US money and carnage gone...and there are still US citizens stranded there.

He's trying to blame Trump, but it's not going to fly on this one.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 18, 2021, 09:01:21 AM
This is the biggest sign of incompetency that I've ever seen by a President in my lifetime. This is a disaster on so many levels. 20 years of US money and carnage gone...and there are still US citizens stranded there.

He's trying to blame Trump, but it's not going to fly on this one.

For the TDS mentally ill they are still blaming Trump.   

Sick in the damn head.   >:(
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 18, 2021, 10:56:47 AM
http://nypost.com/2021/08/17/taliban-kill-woman-not-wearing-burqa-after-vowing-to-honor-womens-rights


Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 18, 2021, 12:29:37 PM
 :o

Dem Explodes on Biden for Monstrous Lie He Told in Afghanistan Speech: 'Utter B.S.'
By Nick Arama | Aug 18, 2021
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/08/18/dem-explodes-on-biden-for-monstrous-lie-he-told-in-afghanistan-speech-utter-b-s-n428883
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 18, 2021, 12:30:40 PM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 19, 2021, 05:20:11 AM
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/gen-milley-says-there-was-nothing-that-i-or-anyone-else-saw-in-intel-indicating-afghanistan-would-collapse-in-11-days

 >:( :(
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: OzmO on August 19, 2021, 07:00:57 AM
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/gen-milley-says-there-was-nothing-that-i-or-anyone-else-saw-in-intel-indicating-afghanistan-would-collapse-in-11-days

 >:( :(

Further elevating the best example of an oxymoron:  "Military Intelligence"
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 19, 2021, 07:49:06 AM
Further elevating the best example of an oxymoron:  "Military Intelligence"

WTF are we paying for! 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 19, 2021, 10:31:22 AM
https://nypost.com/2021/08/18/family-of-afghan-teen-who-fell-to-his-death-from-us-plane-speaks-out/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPFacebook&sr_share=facebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow&fbclid=IwAR11iuyOKf-lvT73bjc55EqK5b0AU42t3epGEwb-QgpnVb1BWdo_U-gnpkU
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 19, 2021, 10:47:17 AM


There is a good chance this will stain his presidency making it impossible for re-election


Not his re-election surely..ya think?

The question is will the press cover the suffering he just caused over half the people in that country?
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: OzmO on August 19, 2021, 10:55:03 AM

Not his re-election surely..ya think?

The question is will the press cover the suffering he just caused over half the people in that country?

At some point, if an outlet spins it too much they lose too much credibility.   I saw CNN ripping him yesterday.  I don't think they have much of a choice.  They tried to spin with the blame it on Trump BS, but that only flys so high.  Most people, IMO, will agree that the execution is solely on Biden and he dropped the ball and likely thousands will now die.

What I don't understand is why all those people waited until now to get the hell out of there? 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 19, 2021, 10:57:24 AM
At some point, if an outlet spins it too much they lose too much credibility.   I saw CNN ripping him yesterday.  I don't think they have much of a choice.  They tried to spin with the blame it on Trump BS, but that only flys so high.  Most people, IMO, will agree that the execution is solely on Biden and he dropped the ball and likely thousands will now die.

What I don't understand is why all those people waited until now to get the hell out of there?

Because he and his woke general corps and other incompetent HACKS promised as late as last month this would never happen. 

Own it liberal failures - at least your little feelings are no longer hurt by mean tweets. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IroNat on August 19, 2021, 11:05:52 AM
The Taliban won't be able to keep the Blackhawks flying without American maintenance.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 19, 2021, 11:07:43 AM
Biden ignored UK PM Boris Johnson's attempts to phone call him for 36 hours. No communication or Consultation with allies on the plan to withdraw.
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1428280996730916867 ^
Posted on 8/19/2021, 1:15:37 PM by sinsofsolarempirefan

Two remarkable lines in today’s papers from @Steven_Swinford

@benrileysmith

— UK military left in the dark by the US about timings and pace of their withdrawal… UK official confirms this is the case — Biden ignored Boris Johnson’s attempts to speak on the phone for 36+ hours

(Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...




Disastrous 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 19, 2021, 11:14:36 AM
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Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 19, 2021, 04:36:32 PM


Mega fat general & parashooters badge  ::) :o ???
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 19, 2021, 05:48:52 PM


What I don't understand is why all those people waited until now to get the hell out of there?


Victim blaming for sake of the party...SAD

Possibly the reason is that just a month earlier Biden assured the world this wouldn't happen.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: OzmO on August 19, 2021, 07:44:26 PM

Victim blaming for sake of the party...SAD

Possibly the reason is that just a month earlier Biden assured the world this wouldn't happen.

Fuck that.  In a place like Afghanistan?   No one could assure me.   Would you have waited?

Not sure why you think I am victim blaming.  Wondering why they waited doesn’t take away from the shit show this is and continues to be.   
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: AbrahamG on August 19, 2021, 11:17:57 PM
A great many of these folks were offered help in getting out in the months leading up to the withdrawal.  Most opted to stay or so it appears. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 20, 2021, 03:29:53 AM
A great many of these folks were offered help in getting out in the months leading up to the withdrawal.  Most opted to stay or so it appears.

RUBBISH !.

You are Afghan (Pashtun), anti Trump & obviously pro Talibani !.

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 20, 2021, 09:07:07 AM
I ran Team Trump’s Afghan withdrawal — Biden’s attempt to blame us is just sad
New York Post ^ | August 19, 2021 6:35pm | By Kash Patel
Posted on 8/20/2021, 10:52:11 AM by Hojczyk

Trump instructed me to arrange a conditions-based, methodical exit plan that would preserve the national interest. The plan ended up being fairly simple: The Afghan government and the Taliban were both told they would face the full force of the US military if they caused any harm to Americans or American interests in Afghanistan.

Next, both parties would negotiate to create an interim-joint government, and both sides had to repudiate al Qaeda. Lastly, a small special-operations force would be stationed in the country to take direct action against any terrorist threats that arose. When all those conditions were met — along with other cascading conditions — then a withdrawal could, and did, begin.

We successfully executed this plan until Jan. 20, 2021. During this interval — when there were no US casualties in Afghanistan — President Ashraf Ghani and the Taliban conducted multiple rounds of negotiations, and al Qaeda was sidelined. The result was a successful drawdown of US forces in Afghanistan to 2,500, the lowest count since the dawn of the War on Terror.

Former Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller claimed that the Trump administration never intended to completely pull of out Afghanistan. Ex-Trump official Chris Miller says Taliban deal was a ‘play’ never intended to pull troops We handed our entire plan to the incoming Biden administration during the lengthy transition. The new team simply wasn’t interested.

Everything changed when the new commander in chief declared that US forces would leave Afghanistan by Sept. 11, 2021, pushing back the Trump administration’s timetable by four months. Crucially, he didn’t condition the withdrawal on continued adherence to the agreed-upon stipulations. It would be an unconditional pullout with an arbitrary date based on pure symbolism — and set in stone.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 20, 2021, 09:19:51 AM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-admin-charging-u-s-citizens-2000-for-evacuation-flights-out-of-afghanistan-report-says?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro&fbclid=IwAR2dbqdwTd72MOm5mgAT_qOxWt0FTyngY7YcmlwSOlQ8eDWjTN2TjI2yN5w


FUJB!!!!

You disgusting communist pos just like O-TWINK! 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 20, 2021, 09:29:30 AM
Fuck that.  In a place like Afghanistan?   No one could assure me.   Would you have waited?

Not sure why you think I am victim blaming.  Wondering why they waited doesn’t take away from the shit show this is and continues to be.


If you had been there for 20 years, your family, work and everything you own and the POTUS just said he had it under control? You 100% sure about that?
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: OzmO on August 20, 2021, 11:53:25 AM

If you had been there for 20 years, your family, work and everything you own and the POTUS just said he had it under control? You 100% sure about that?

Knowing that the Taliban is about to take over?   I am 100% sure about that.  As soon as it looks like the US is leaving I am making arrangements to leave. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 20, 2021, 03:17:34 PM
Knowing that the Taliban is about to take over?   I am 100% sure about that.  As soon as it looks like the US is leaving I am making arrangements to leave.


Can you take BoB Straw & Jay III with you, thanks !.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 20, 2021, 08:35:45 PM
Washington Post exposes the FAKE 300,000 Afghan troops number that Biden keeps repeating
AUG. 20, 2021 BY THE RIGHT SCOOP
https://therightscoop.com/washington-post-exposes-the-fake-300000-afghan-troops-number-that-biden-keeps-repeating/
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: AbrahamG on August 20, 2021, 10:30:11 PM
RUBBISH !.

You are Afghan (Pashtun), anti Trump & obviously pro Talibani !.

You are a moron.  I'm a descendant of Polish Tatars. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 21, 2021, 12:15:20 AM
You are a moron.  I'm a descendant of Polish Tartars.


Bullshiting yourself pedo-muhammadan folower !.

Just re-read your old posting !.

No goat fuckers in Poland !.

+ learn geography  ;)
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Moontrane on August 21, 2021, 12:18:19 AM
WTF?  Our departure was conducted bass-ackward.

https://www.state.gov/gratitude-to-the-uae-for-facilitating-the-transit-of-u-s-citizens-embassy-personnel-and-others-from-afghanistan/

Gratitude to the UAE for Facilitating the Transit of U.S. Citizens, Embassy Personnel, and Others from Afghanistan

The United States is grateful to the United Arab Emirates for its humanitarian efforts and its gracious offer to facilitate the safe transit of U.S. citizens, embassy personnel, and foreign nationals evacuated from Kabul to third countries.  The United States greatly appreciates the Emirati government’s support; it is emblematic of our strong and enduring partnership.  We have no higher priority than the safety and security of U.S. citizens overseas, including our diplomats and service members in Afghanistan.  We thank our Emirati partners for their support in this effort.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: AbrahamG on August 21, 2021, 12:42:12 AM


Bullshiting yourself pedo-muhammadan folower !.

Just re-read your old posting !.

No goat fuckers in Poland !.

+ learn geography  ;)

You truly are the stupidest mother fucker this board has.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: ThisisOverload on August 21, 2021, 12:49:17 AM
Fuck that.  In a place like Afghanistan?   No one could assure me.   Would you have waited?

Not sure why you think I am victim blaming.  Wondering why they waited doesn’t take away from the shit show this is and continues to be.

They have big money contracts to be there and don't want to breech them.

Nobody goes over there for any other reason than money.

It's like walking out on your job when you are making $125 per hour.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IroNat on August 21, 2021, 04:00:43 AM
They have big money contracts to be there and don't want to breech them.

Nobody goes over there for any other reason than money.

It's like walking out on your job when you are making $125 per hour.

This.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 21, 2021, 05:12:27 AM
Afghans see 'worst day by far' outside Kabul airport
SKY News ^ | August 21, 2021
Posted on 8/21/2021, 7:55:21 AM by Oldeconomybuyer

Thousands have gathered outside the international hub as global leaders scramble to evacuate diplomats and nationals following the Taliban takeover.

Footage has captured tense scenes as the military desperately tried to control the chaos, with shocking images showing infants being passed over razor wire to American soldiers on barricades.

Speaking from the ground in Kabul, chief correspondent Stuart Ramsay said today is the "worst day so far" as people queuing in their thousands are crushed at the front of growing crowds.

He said he believes people have died this morning, adding: "I've seen a lot of people getting medical attention."

Describing the scenes as "utterly horrendous", Ramsay said the military has been forced to fire blast explosions in a bid to get people to take a step back and alleviate pressure on the front.

He added: "It is very very tense, they're doing everything they can to keep some order and to rescue people who may be dying."

The journalist added that "hardened soldiers" had told him its the "worst thing they have ever seen in their entire career."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IroNat on August 21, 2021, 06:32:21 AM
It's going to be fine because Sleepy says so.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 21, 2021, 06:48:39 AM
You are a moron.  I'm a descendant of Polish Tartars.

Tatars/Tartars, anyway.

I have a book recommendation for you. Poland by James Michener. Long and a bit boring at times but a very good history lesson and it starts with the Tatar invasion of the steppes and the formation of modern Poland.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 21, 2021, 07:09:52 AM
Knowing that the Taliban is about to take over?   I am 100% sure about that.  As soon as it looks like the US is leaving I am making arrangements to leave.


I guess you missed the part where there was no clear strategy as to when that was happening?
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 21, 2021, 07:44:35 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/taliban-2-0-special-forces-unit-patrolling-streets-kabul-wear-us-military-uniforms-left-behind-body-armor



Remember this when liberals want gun control. 

This is Biden’s fast and furious
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: OzmO on August 21, 2021, 08:44:09 AM

I guess you missed the part where there was no clear strategy as to when that was happening?


Under the February 29 agreement, signed in Doha, Qatar, the United States has committed to a phased, conditions-based withdrawal of all U.S. and NATO troops from Afghanistan within 14 months of signing the accord.     

https://law.stanford.edu/2020/12/07/the-u-s-taliban-agreement-and-the-afghan-peace-process/ (https://law.stanford.edu/2020/12/07/the-u-s-taliban-agreement-and-the-afghan-peace-process/)
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 21, 2021, 01:49:02 PM
You truly are the stupidest mother fucker this board has.



You are 1 lying pedo muhammadan Afghan !.

Just re-read your own posts !.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 22, 2021, 03:21:40 AM
American mom trapped by Taliban describes horrific violence, pleads for Biden to solve evacuation crisis
Fox News ^ | 8/21/2021 | Michael Ruiz , Sara Ballou
Posted on 8/22/2021, 6:06:39 AM by LibWhacker

An American mom trapped in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan is worried she'll never see her kids again and in hiding with family members and Afghan allies – unable to reach Kabul's U.S.-held airport for a chance at an evacuation, she said Saturday.

"I really have given up hope, given up on the hope of going to the airport," the woman, whose identity is being withheld due to concerns for her safety, told Fox News. "It’s just not possible to make it through all those people."

She said there are as many as 20 Taliban checkpoints between her and the airport – and she’s one of an uncertain number of American citizens trapped behind enemy lines.

Every moment that a car passes by, I feel like they are going to pull in and execute us. I don't know if I'm going to see my children again.

She was whipped by Taliban fighters on one attempt to get through, she said. A man standing near her was shot in the head on another try, leaving his wife and baby in tears. Since then, she's been in hiding.

TALIBAN GOING ‘HOUSE TO HOUSE’ IN AFGHANISTAN ‘HANGING’ PEOPLE WHO WORKED WITH US

"We are devastated," she said. "We're scared for our lives. Every moment that a car passes by, I feel like they are going to pull in and execute us. I don't know if I'm going to see my children again."

She said the situation was dire – even hopeless. She would rather commit suicide than allow the Taliban to capture her. And despite Taliban assurances to the U.S. that Americans would be allowed to pass through the checkpoints surrounding the airport, she said she fears showing her U.S. passport to militants who could be members of other terror groups, including ISIS and al Qaeda.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 22, 2021, 05:24:54 AM
They have big money contracts to be there and don't want to breech them.

Nobody goes over there for any other reason than money.

It's like walking out on your job when you are making $125 per hour.

They were milking the Afghanistan scam for all it was worth and for some reason we’re supposed to feel sorry for them.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on August 22, 2021, 10:42:41 PM
Apparently the JoeJill Biden Afghanistan withdrawal plan was saved on Hunter’s laptop.

Impeach the traitor Joe Biden
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 23, 2021, 07:10:57 AM

Under the February 29 agreement, signed in Doha, Qatar, the United States has committed to a phased, conditions-based withdrawal of all U.S. and NATO troops from Afghanistan within 14 months of signing the accord.     

https://law.stanford.edu/2020/12/07/the-u-s-taliban-agreement-and-the-afghan-peace-process/ (https://law.stanford.edu/2020/12/07/the-u-s-taliban-agreement-and-the-afghan-peace-process/)


Alirighty then....just add 14 months to February 29 and you'll have the answer as to how long most probably thought they had to get out.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Howard on August 23, 2021, 07:43:39 AM
What do you want me to comment on? The obvious? Of course we should be pulling out of Afghanistan but now was not the time and no, Biden didn’t follow anything Trump put into place for a safe withdrawal. Biden’s abruptly pulled our troops and within a week the Taliban overwhelmed the Afghani’s and promptly took over....Biden had no plan 2 in case something went wrong which is why he risked sending back in 3000 troops and now 5000 with no plan. Now we’re surrendering to the Taliban who we once defeated.

All he has to do was follow the plan but instead he decided to do it his way which, as usual, blew up in his face possibly costing our troops lives

I've always posted  and agreed that Biden owns this debacle in Afghanistan . He should have IGNORED the previous Trump agreement.

Trump ( and Sec Pompeo) would never have negotiated US surrender with the Taliban  or agreed for the release of 5000 Afghan terrorists in prison. ::)
That must be fake news and we'd never have a written agreement, right Coach? ;)
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 23, 2021, 09:19:07 AM
The whole thing is been a 20 year failure and fraud so why should the exit be any different?

Sure, it’s politically expedient to blame the whole thing on sleepy but the truth is it’s the whole system. There are people who were over there at the start who said the whole thing could’ve been wrapped up in a few months.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 23, 2021, 11:50:36 AM
I wonder if he thinks all of those blacks and Hispanics who refuse to get vaccinated should be sent to Afghanistan too?

George W. Bush's CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden calls Trump supporters 'our Taliban' and suggests sending the 'the MAGA wearing unvaxxed' on planes to Afghanistan
Retired General Michael Hayden bashed 'MAGA wearing unvaxxed' people after Donald Trump held a rally in Alabama criticized as a 'super spreader' event
He appeared to endorse an image calling Trump supporters 'Our Taliban'
GOP Congressman Jim Banks was one of the people calling out Hayden
Hayden did not reply but retweeted another user dismissing Banks's comment
Hayden was first appointed to the intel community by former President Bill Clinton before serving under President George W. Bush's administration
The retired general was once accused of lying to Congress over CIA torture
By ELIZABETH ELKIND, U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 23 August 2021
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9918841/Bushs-CIA-chief-compares-Trump-fans-Taliban-suggests-sending-unvaxxed-MAGA-Afghanistan.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 23, 2021, 11:55:35 AM
Biden's Aides Were Reportedly Too Afraid to Challenge His Withdrawal Timetable
By Brian Freeman    |   Monday, 23 August 2021
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/biden-afghanistan-withdrawal/2021/08/23/id/1033445/
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 23, 2021, 03:54:43 PM
Biden's Aides Were Reportedly Too Afraid to Challenge His Withdrawal Timetable
By Brian Freeman    |   Monday, 23 August 2021
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/biden-afghanistan-withdrawal/2021/08/23/id/1033445/

Liberal failures
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 23, 2021, 03:58:32 PM


The 1st September 2021 is gonna be 'Arrivederci Roma' for senile Joe !.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 23, 2021, 05:27:15 PM

The 1st September 2021 is gonna be 'Arrivederci Roma' for senile Joe !.

I don’t see the Democrats throwing Joe under the bus as that would mean moving Kamala up to president. At least old feeble Joe garners a ittle sympathy whereas Kamala is detestable on every level.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IroNat on August 23, 2021, 06:48:39 PM
After August 31 the Taliban will start shooting.

It will be bedlam.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: chaos on August 23, 2021, 06:51:23 PM
After August 31 the Taliban will start shooting.

It will be bedlam.
We'll be back.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 23, 2021, 07:50:58 PM
We'll be back.

More like we're not leaving.   :-\
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 23, 2021, 07:53:44 PM
We won't know the facts till people start writing books for lots of money, but why would he fire anyone if they properly advised him and he ignored their advice?

Sources: No Biden firings
Axios
Hans Nichols, Jonathan Swan
https://www.axios.com/bidens-blinders-afghanistan-national-security-team-476bce43-736c-4da5-94b3-4de307d45394.html
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 25, 2021, 05:33:52 AM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 25, 2021, 06:44:41 AM
So much for Biden's tough talk: Australian citizen is beaten by Taliban while trying to reach evacuation flight as Islamists IGNORE US president's demand to let civilians get to Kabul airport - with just hours left for them to flee
Daily Mail ^ | | UPDATED: 09:13 EDT, 25 August 2021 | By CHRIS PLEASANCE
Posted on 8/25/2021, 9:23:10 AM by Hojczyk

Bloodied and beaten by the Taliban - this was the fate of one man claiming to be an Australian citizen as he tried to reach Kabul airport today as the Islamists defied Joe Biden's demand to let evacuation flights continue unimpeded with just hours left to get civilians out of the country.

The man, whose identity is unknown, was attacked after the Taliban vowed to stop people reaching the airport despite Biden demanding that they 'allow access to the airport for those who are transporting out and no disruptions to our operations' in return for US troops withdrawing from the country by August 31.

Video shows the man at what appears to be a Taliban checkpoint with blood running down his face and dripping on to his pink polo shirt, saying in accented English: 'They hit me... I am an Australian citizen.'

Lord David Richards, former chief of UK defence staff, said he is 'pretty certain' that British flights will have to stop on Friday to allow enough time for 1,000 troops to fully withdraw by August 31, the date Joe Biden committed to yesterday under threats from the Taliban.

France says it is 'very probable' that its flights will stop tomorrow, while Poland said it has already stopped flights due to the 'security situation' at the airport. Hungary will also stop flights soon.

Fears are now growing that civilians could rush the runway and trigger a deadly stampede in a repeat of the horror scenes from last week, or else opportunistic terror groups such as ISIS could attack packed crowds - fears that will only grow as troop numbers dwindle.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 25, 2021, 10:27:17 AM


Stabbing our allies in the back.  Obama 2.0. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 25, 2021, 10:40:43 AM
I really want to believe President Biden will not do this.   :-\

EXCLUSIVE: Internal Numbers Show White House Poised To Leave Several Thousand Americans Behind Enemy Lines In Afghanistan
SHELBY TALCOTT
SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT
August 24, 2021
https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/24/americans-evacuated-afghanistan-white-house-several-thousand-remain/
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 25, 2021, 11:02:57 AM
I really want to believe President Biden will not do this.   :-\

EXCLUSIVE: Internal Numbers Show White House Poised To Leave Several Thousand Americans Behind Enemy Lines In Afghanistan
SHELBY TALCOTT
SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT
August 24, 2021
https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/24/americans-evacuated-afghanistan-white-house-several-thousand-remain/

He should be tried for treason and sentenced accordingly if he does this. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 25, 2021, 05:19:34 PM


 5 more days  :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 25, 2021, 05:24:16 PM
So much for Biden's tough talk: Australian citizen is beaten by Taliban while trying to reach evacuation flight as Islamists IGNORE US president's demand to let civilians get to Kabul airport - with just hours left for them to flee
Daily Mail ^ | | UPDATED: 09:13 EDT, 25 August 2021 | By CHRIS PLEASANCE
Posted on 8/25/2021, 9:23:10 AM by Hojczyk

Bloodied and beaten by the Taliban - this was the fate of one man claiming to be an Australian citizen as he tried to reach Kabul airport today as the Islamists defied Joe Biden's demand to let evacuation flights continue unimpeded with just hours left to get civilians out of the country.

The man, whose identity is unknown, was attacked after the Taliban vowed to stop people reaching the airport despite Biden demanding that they 'allow access to the airport for those who are transporting out and no disruptions to our operations' in return for US troops withdrawing from the country by August 31.

Video shows the man at what appears to be a Taliban checkpoint with blood running down his face and dripping on to his pink polo shirt, saying in accented English: 'They hit me... I am an Australian citizen.'

Lord David Richards, former chief of UK defence staff, said he is 'pretty certain' that British flights will have to stop on Friday to allow enough time for 1,000 troops to fully withdraw by August 31, the date Joe Biden committed to yesterday under threats from the Taliban.

France says it is 'very probable' that its flights will stop tomorrow, while Poland said it has already stopped flights due to the 'security situation' at the airport. Hungary will also stop flights soon.

Fears are now growing that civilians could rush the runway and trigger a deadly stampede in a repeat of the horror scenes from last week, or else opportunistic terror groups such as ISIS could attack packed crowds - fears that will only grow as troop numbers dwindle.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...

Why was he trying to leave? He would’ve had more freedom in Afghanistan than in  Australia.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 25, 2021, 05:59:55 PM
Why was he trying to leave? He would’ve had more freedom in Afghanistan than in  Australia.

Not if he's dead.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 25, 2021, 06:47:17 PM
Why was he trying to leave? He would’ve had more freedom in Afghanistan than in  Australia.


Could be AAA rated life, free medical-dental, old age pension for all, cash for unemployed,endless sandy beaches,topless girls on Manly beach,free outdoor gyms,

NO no-go areas, no homeless tents like in Venice, no Chicago style shootings, no Portland style rioting,no graffitis on trains, NO poops on the streets like in SF, superior

fresh food, etc,etc,.........

but the worst of all no machine guns for sale  :-\
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 07:54:36 AM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 08:03:46 AM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 08:08:02 AM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 08:12:25 AM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: OzmO on August 26, 2021, 08:26:12 AM
He should be tried for treason and sentenced accordingly if he does this.

Someone needs to be accountable with consequences for deciding to leave arms, vehicles, ammo, etc. to the Taliban at the very least. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: residue on August 26, 2021, 08:44:10 AM
Someone needs to be accountable with consequences for deciding to leave arms, vehicles, ammo, etc. to the Taliban at the very least.
has there been a war where the invading country don't leave tools of war behind? it's pretty standard, they don't bring shit back
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 08:44:45 AM
has there been a war where the invading country don't leave tools of war behind? it's pretty standard, they don't bring shit back

 ::)
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: OzmO on August 26, 2021, 08:48:00 AM
has there been a war where the invading country don't leave tools of war behind? it's pretty standard, they don't bring shit back

Incorrect.

There are processes and procedures for exiting that include the destruction of weapons and ammo that cannot be taken back.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 08:59:19 AM
Pentagon confirms explosion at Kabul airport; US troops 'wounded'; official tells Reuters it was 'suicide bomb'
Sky News ^ | 8/26/2021 | Faith Ridler and Emily Mee
Posted on 8/26/2021, 10:33:12


US troops injured in 'suicide bombing' at Kabul airport - reports

Our chief correspondent Stuart Ramsay says he understands the explosion took place in a sewage canal outside the airport, where thousands have gathered in a bid to board flights since the Taliban takeover on 15 August.

Ramsay - who was until recently on the ground in Kabul - says this event could mark the end of the airlift from Afghanistan.

The journalist added it is understood that American soldiers were injured in the blast, which US officials believe was an attack by a suicide bomber. He said: "From our understanding it was a suicide bomb attack in a canal way that has featured in our reports where thousands have waited.

"We believe a suicide bomber blew himself up in the canal."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on August 26, 2021, 09:01:32 AM
Total absolute failure again by the Biden administration.

Border = failure
Stimulus = failure
Afghanistan = failure
Covid = failure
Foreign policy = failure
Energy independence = failure

But at least we don’t have Tweets that melt the liberal snowflakes.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 09:06:06 AM
WARNING - DO NOT WATCH IF OFFENDED BY GORE

https://interesting-weird-educational-videos.blogspot.com/2021/08/taliban-assassinates-nato-collaborators.html

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 09:14:50 AM
US personnel among those wounded in Kabul airport explosion, officials say
CNN ^ | Aug 26, 2021 | Barbara Starr, Kylie Atwood and Ivana Kottasová,
Posted on 8/26/2021, 11:03:04 AM by Humane1

(CNN)An explosion took place outside the Kabul airport on Thursday as the United States and other countries try to evacuate their citizens and Afghans at risk from the Taliban.

Three US officials and a source familiar with the situation said that according to initial reports, there were some US personnel among the wounded.

(Excerpt) Read more at edition.cnn.com ...

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 26, 2021, 09:24:22 AM
Total absolute failure again by the Biden administration.

Border = failure
Stimulus = failure
Afghanistan = failure
Covid = failure
Foreign policy = failure
Energy independence = failure

But at least we don’t have Tweets that melt the liberal snowflakes.

I suspected Biden/Harris would be a blessing in disguise for the Republicans as this is the worst top of the ticket ever presented by the Democrats.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Princess L on August 26, 2021, 09:58:34 AM
WARNING - DO NOT WATCH IF OFFENDED BY GORE

https://interesting-weird-educational-videos.blogspot.com/2021/08/taliban-assassinates-nato-collaborators.html

 Every last one of you with TDS that voted Biden is responsible for this.

   

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 10:13:56 AM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 26, 2021, 10:14:11 AM
has there been a war where the invading country don't leave tools of war behind? it's pretty standard, they don't bring shit back

Unbelievable
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 10:19:44 AM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghanistan-kabul-airport-explosion-11629976397

4 Marines dead.   
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 10:33:34 AM
http://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-four-us-marines-killed-in-kabul-terror-attacks?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro&fbclid=IwAR1Y4qZKEfdAu9nx1FhmO5UCGbC52XXqODQ2dMwpuSUP0KcwM3eobCxYmA8
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 26, 2021, 10:36:14 AM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghanistan-kabul-airport-explosion-11629976397

4 Marines dead.

 >:(
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 10:40:19 AM
>:(

https://www.cbs19news.com/story/42501205/barack-obama-reportedly-said-dont-underestimate-joes-ability-to-expletive-things-up?fbclid=IwAR3FbZVpxEc_bGTJQps2BF0z18jp5ffeQMMy7ytAtoFoRDQh3NvysOpvk3k

Even obama knew what a Fng disaster Biden is
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: TheGrinch on August 26, 2021, 10:41:29 AM
Every last one of you with TDS that voted Biden is responsible for this.

 

100% all have blood on their hands
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 26, 2021, 10:41:56 AM
I’m beginning to think all of this incompetence is intentional
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 10:46:53 AM
100% all have blood on their hands

They were upset about Trump being mean yet could never explain what policies they disagreed with. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 26, 2021, 10:47:29 AM
https://www.cbs19news.com/story/42501205/barack-obama-reportedly-said-dont-underestimate-joes-ability-to-expletive-things-up?fbclid=IwAR3FbZVpxEc_bGTJQps2BF0z18jp5ffeQMMy7ytAtoFoRDQh3NvysOpvk3k

Even obama knew what a Fng disaster Biden is

This is criminal.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 26, 2021, 10:53:48 AM
This is criminal.

Ironically, Obama was worse than Biden on Afghanistan. He had eight years to end it but he didn’t.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 26, 2021, 11:02:42 AM
Ironically, Obama was worse than Biden on Afghanistan. He had eight years to end it but he didn’t.

Obama was a disaster.  But he's got some serious competition.  This is a sad day.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 11:12:39 AM
Four US marines among 40 dead in 'ISIS suicide bomb' attack at Kabul airport: NATO countries start to pull the plug on evacuations as airfield gates are 'welded shut' - but PM insists UK flights WILL continue

https://www.dailymail.co.uk ^ | UPDATED: 13:51 EDT, 26 August 2021 | JACK NEWMAN and JAMES ROBINSON and NICK CRAVEN




Four US Marines are thought to be among the 40 people killed in an 'ISIS suicide' bomb attack outside Kabul airport today.

Jihadist splinter group ISIS-K are believed to be behind the two blasts outside the gates of Kabul airport, where thousands of Afghans were awaiting evacuation.

The disaster - which comes after warnings by US and UK officials of an 'imminent' terror attack - could now spark an immediate to the West's frantic evacuation efforts in Afghanistan.

NATO countries, including Denmark, have already stopped their evacuation efforts this evening, while the gates to the airport have now been sealed by US troops in the aftermath.

However Boris Johnson, who this evening chaired an emergency COBRA meeting at Downing Street, insisted the UK will continue its evacuation flights. UK officials earlier today said there were a dozen evacuation flights still scheduled to leave Kabul.

It comes after as the Taliban say as many as 40 people, including children, were killed in two separate explosions near Kabul airport today - just hours after warnings of an 'imminent' and 'lethal' ISIS terror attack.

The first blast was set off by a suicide bomber outside the Barons Hotel where British troops, journalists and UN officials have been staying during frantic evacuation mission by Western forces.

It was then followed by gunfire and mass panic before a second explosion ripped through a crowd of Afghans gathered at the Abbey Gate of the Hamid Karzai airport.

Western officials say at least 13 people have died in the attacks, though the Taliban, who this evening condemned the 'evil' attacks, say at least 40 people could have died.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 11:22:24 AM
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/us-troops-killed-wounded-kabul-airport-explosions/?fbclid=IwAR3XIy-oEfCxiPhKW9Tt3k0PLZer-cMoQs3N_8FdbwQ5Izy88y7gq7G5lR8


 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 26, 2021, 11:23:53 AM
Knocking on wood didn't work.   >:(

Joe Biden Literally Says ‘Knock on Wood’ to Describe Afghanistan Evacuation Strategy
CHARLIE SPIERING
20 Aug 2021
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/20/joe-biden-literally-says-knock-on-wood-to-describe-afghanistan-evacuation-strategy/
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 26, 2021, 11:26:51 AM
My God.

10 US Marines, soldiers killed in Kabul airport explosion, officials say: LIVE UPDATES
A suicide bombing outside of Kabul, Afghanistan's airport Thursday has killed 10 U.S. Marines and soldiers, officials tell Fox News. A second explosion later took place outside the Baron Hotel, sources say.
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/live-updates-taliban-gain-more-ground-in-afghanistan-as-they-close-in-on-kabul
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 26, 2021, 11:42:44 AM
12

"Eleven US Marines and one Navy medic killed in a series of suicide bomb attacks on Kabul airport on Thursday, the first American lives to be lost since Biden's disastrous Afghanistan evacuation effort began on August 14.

The President has not commented publicly on the deaths and he is not scheduled to make any kind of statement or speech on Thursday. The deafening silence has angered Republicans who say the blood of those killed is on his hands."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9928133/Car-bomb-threat-forces-Kabul-airport-CLOSE-citizens-345-seater-plane-leaves-empty.html
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 01:06:00 PM
Biden remains out of public view as attacks mar Afghanistan evacuation
NY Post ^ | 08/26/2021 | Steve Nelson
Posted on 8/26/2021, 3:35:31 PM by ChicagoConservative27

WASHINGTON — President Biden and his administration’s top staff cleared public events from their schedules Thursday as the deadly bombings near Kabul’s airport killed US service members and complicated an already desperate evacuation of Americans and at-risk Afghans.

The grisly attack reportedly killed at least 12 US service members and wounded others, leaving the bodies of many Afghans strewn along a canal outside the airport.

Biden was supposed to meet at 11:30 a.m. in the Oval Office with Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, but the meeting was delayed and then rescheduled to Friday.

Biden also canceled a planned 3 p.m. virtual meeting with governors on Afghan refugee resettlement.

White House press secretary Jen Psaki was supposed to host her daily press briefing at noon, but it was delayed without a new start time.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 26, 2021, 01:06:55 PM
Closing Bagram airbase was a 'recipe for disaster': Army veteran turned terrorism analyst calls for CENTCOM commander to be fired for 'dumpster fire' plan to choose Kabul airport to evacuate thousands of people
Daily Mail ^ | August 18, 2021 | Rob Crilly
Posted on 8/26/2021, 3:22:12 PM by KeyLargo

The Woke Marine General is on TV now ,trying to Defend his CIC Biden.

“Bill Roggio, a former soldier and senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, demanded the resignation of the Centcom Commander U.S. Marine Corps Gen. Frank McKenzie, who heads the Afghan mission.”

Closing Bagram airbase was a 'recipe for disaster': Army veteran turned terrorism analyst calls for CENTCOM commander to be fired for 'dumpster fire' plan to choose Kabul airport to evacuate thousands of people

* Security experts said Bagram air base would have provided a secure hub * But it was closed in early July when U.S. forces slipped out at night  * Americans must instead try to reach Kabul's airport which is ringed by Taliban  * The result has been chaotic scenes at Hamid Karzai International Airport  * And growing questions about the Biden's administration's emergency plan  * Bill Roggio said 'you do not put your primary evacuation airstrip at an airport inside a city with 4.5 million people' * Rep. Mike Waltz said Bagram had more space for keeping people safe * But Gen. Mark Milley said his orders were to secure the embassy and he did not have enough troops to hold Bagram

Abandoning Bagram air base before withdrawing American civilians and Afghan allies was a major tactical mistake, according to senior national security experts, leaving U.S. forces reliant on a civilian airport, with a single runway in the heart of a city controlled by the Taliban. They said days of chaos could have been avoided if the U.S. evacuation plan included Bagram, 25 miles to the north.

nstead, the world was horrified to watch Afghans dropping from the sky off departing planes while Americans were being told to hunker down at home, and Taliban fighters encircled Hamid Karzai International Airport.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 26, 2021, 09:18:57 PM
13
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2021, 07:31:16 AM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2021, 11:46:35 AM
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/western-nations-race-complete-afghan-evacuation-deadline-looms-2021-08-25


Good job you TDS deranged nuts voted for this 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 30, 2021, 05:46:28 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/30/rockets-target-us-troops-as-afghanistan-withdrawal-in-final-stage.html

 >:( :(
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: OzmO on August 30, 2021, 07:30:26 AM
anyone see a list of weapons and equipment we left behind?

I saw something saying it included 16K night vision goggles?

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 30, 2021, 07:32:47 AM
anyone see a list of weapons and equipment we left behind?

I saw something saying it included 16K night vision goggles?

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!

Yup - yet you go try to get an AR-15 or night vision goggles in many states.  FUBiden trusts the Taliban with gins but not you. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 30, 2021, 07:36:16 AM
American University of Afghanistan Students Told ‘There Is No Evacuation’ and That Their Names Were Given to the Taliban
Mediaite ^ | Aug 29th, 2021 | Katherine Huggins
Posted on 8/30/2021, 4:20:51 AM by


Hundreds of students and alumni of the American University of Afghanistan were told “there will be no more rescue flights” on Sunday, prompting many to go into hiding.

Students were further alarmed upon learning that the U.S. military had given a list of their names and passport information to Taliban officials guarding the airport in Kabul, according to a report from the New York Times.

“They told us: we have given your names to the Taliban,” a 24-year-old sophomore studying business administration told the Times. “We are all terrified, there is no evacuation, there is no getting out.”

About 600 students and alumni had gathered at a safehouse on Sunday to gather before attempting to flee the country. However, upon arriving at the airport, they were turned away due to evacuation flights ending as the U.S. focuses on removing its personnel ahead of the Aug. 31 deadline.

“I regret to inform you that the high command at HKIA in the airport has announced there will be no more rescue flights,” an email shared with the Times from the university administration read.

The university was founded in 2006 and has since expanded to have a student body of about 1,700 full and part-time students from all 34 provinces of Afghanistan.

The university has been a target of the Taliban for several years. In August 2016, the Taliban launched an attack on the campus, killing 15 people, seven of whom were students. Earlier that month, an American and Australian professor working at the university were kidnapped and remained in captivity until 2019 when they were released in exchange for three Taliban prisoners.

According to the Times, on Aug. 15 —when the Taliban took over Kabul — the group posted a photo of them standing at the entrance of a university building, saying they were “where America trained infidel ‘wolves’ to corrupt the minds of Muslims.”

Ian Bickford, the president of the university, who fled Afghanistan two weeks ago, said the deadly attack at Kabul’s airport had complicated the campus evacuation efforts.

Bickford added that students will be able to finish their degrees remotely.

The students and alumni told the Times that they had “struggled emotionally” in recent days “as their status changed from college students to fugitives overnight.”
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 30, 2021, 07:42:42 AM
anyone see a list of weapons and equipment we left behind?

I saw something saying it included 16K night vision goggles?

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!

Left behind? I think you mean Biden’s gift
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 30, 2021, 08:28:14 AM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IroNat on August 30, 2021, 08:35:07 AM
Left behind? I think you mean Biden’s gift

Yes, given on purpose.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 30, 2021, 08:36:27 AM
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/569952-pentagon-acknowledges-reports-of-civilian-casualties-in-us-airstrike-targeting?fbclid=IwAR20YBgoG9AQ7ZftyWvGenRr5oRLPE5IlJqv7Ap9a6gM16xDBRfSl0D317Y

More lies from Biden
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 30, 2021, 09:59:14 AM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 30, 2021, 11:36:07 AM
Family of Marine killed in Afghanistan slams Biden meeting as scripted, a ‘total disregard' to Marine's death
"You can't f--- up as bad as he did and say you're sorry," Marine's sister said of Biden
By Houston Keene | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/marine-family-slams-biden-meeting-scripted
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 30, 2021, 11:38:20 AM
(https://i2.wp.com/www.bostonherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/GettyImages-1234946450.jpg?fit=620%2C9999px&ssl=1)

Was Biden looking at his watch during ceremony for Marines killed in Kabul?
See the photos for yourself below
By JOE DWINELL | joed@bostonherald.com | Boston Herald
PUBLISHED: August 29, 2021
https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/08/29/was-biden-looking-at-his-watch-during-ceremony-for-marines-killed-in-kabul/
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 30, 2021, 11:43:17 AM
(https://i2.wp.com/www.bostonherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/GettyImages-1234946450.jpg?fit=620%2C9999px&ssl=1)

Was Biden looking at his watch during ceremony for Marines killed in Kabul?
See the photos for yourself below
By JOE DWINELL | joed@bostonherald.com | Boston Herald
PUBLISHED: August 29, 2021
https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/08/29/was-biden-looking-at-his-watch-during-ceremony-for-marines-killed-in-kabul/

Why are these idiots wearing masks. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 30, 2021, 12:27:33 PM
Good job Biden! 

Holy Shiite   -already flying the blackhawks around with dead bodies hanging off them

https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1432371405727977472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1432371405727977472%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpatriots.win%2Frising%3Ffrom%3D12kFL7AwbK
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 30, 2021, 12:51:30 PM
anyone see a list of weapons and equipment we left behind?

I saw something saying it included 16K night vision goggles?

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!

This is a partial

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: OzmO on August 30, 2021, 01:13:12 PM
This is a partial

Yeah, that's the one I saw, there is also one with the helicopters and planes on it.

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 30, 2021, 01:36:14 PM
Yeah, that's the one I saw, there is also one with the helicopters and planes on it.

.

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 30, 2021, 01:57:55 PM
.

Talibs now have more BlackHawks than Australian ADF !.

"Good job" Joe !.

BoB Straw is super proud of you !.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 30, 2021, 09:32:41 PM
We left Americans behind.  Treacherous.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 30, 2021, 09:51:45 PM
There are so many colossal mistakes it's hard to keep track of them.

Massive biometric database of Afghans who helped US, RAW in Taliban's control now
The Taliban have confirmed that they have access to the database and have mobilised a special unit, called Al Isha, to hunt down Afghans who helped US and allied forces
FP Staff
August 29, 2021
https://www.firstpost.com/world/massive-biometric-database-of-persons-who-helped-us-nato-and-raw-in-taliban-control-now-say-reports-9921801.html
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 31, 2021, 07:28:50 AM
They even left the military dogs
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 31, 2021, 07:29:49 AM
They even left the military dogs

I've been trying to verify this.   If true - so fng bad.   
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 31, 2021, 07:32:32 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 31, 2021, 07:41:30 AM
:)

Good
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: bhank on August 31, 2021, 08:06:00 AM
They even left the military dogs

That is some weak sauce shit the dogs should come before the extended families of Afghan cooperators those dogs are combat infantry
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: OzmO on August 31, 2021, 08:50:44 AM
They even left the military dogs

They left he dogs?????


WTF??????

Who decided that? 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Body-Buildah on August 31, 2021, 09:34:09 AM
(https://www.capradio.org/media/12258293/screen-shot-2021-04-29-at-235040.png?width=1011.9278779472955&height=1200)
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 31, 2021, 10:00:10 AM
They left he dogs?????


WTF??????

Who decided that?

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/08/31/animal-rights-groups-joe-biden-abandoned-dozens-of-service-dogs-in-afghanistan/
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on August 31, 2021, 10:56:08 AM
Every Democrat U.S. Senator should be airdropped into the Kabul airport and made to stay there until all American citizens are home safely.

Liberals have elected a complete failure and there has to be serious repercussions to them for doing so.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: TheGrinch on August 31, 2021, 11:01:40 AM


Liberals have elected a complete failure and there has to be serious repercussions to them for doing so.

there never ever is
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 31, 2021, 11:22:31 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/08/31/animal-rights-groups-joe-biden-abandoned-dozens-of-service-dogs-in-afghanistan/

I really hope this isn't true. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: residue on August 31, 2021, 12:03:09 PM
Every Democrat U.S. Senator should be airdropped into the Kabul airport and made to stay there until all American citizens are home safely.

Liberals have elected a complete failure and there has to be serious repercussions to them for doing so.
I see a lot of R's voting yay
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=116&session=2&vote=00129
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on August 31, 2021, 12:23:03 PM
I see a lot of R's voting yay
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=116&session=2&vote=00129

Supporting the withdrawal and supporting the way in which the Biden administration carried out the withdrawal are two completely different things.

JoeJill Biden and the Democrat Party own this abject failure.

JoeJill Biden is a feckless, dementia-ridden piece of crap. He is the perfect person to be leading the Democrat Party.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 31, 2021, 12:53:43 PM
Anyone listening to President Biden's speech?  Some notable comments:

He said the Americans we left behind wanted to stay, but that we're going to get them out if they want to come home. 

He said he had no choice but to pull our troops out based on the deal President Trump negotiated.  Then he said he pulled everyone out because he made a campaign promise to pull our troops out.  Pretty much a word for word copy of what Obama said about Iraq. 

He said there was no way to avoid this chaos. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Grape Ape on August 31, 2021, 02:29:13 PM
Anyone listening to President Biden's speech?  Some notable comments:

He said the Americans we left behind wanted to stay, but that we're going to get them out if they want to come home. 

He said he had no choice but to pull our troops out based on the deal President Trump negotiated.  Then he said he pulled everyone out because he made a campaign promise to pull our troops out.  Pretty much a word for word copy of what Obama said about Iraq. 

He said there was no way to avoid this chaos.

Read an article that Afghanistan has "seasons", meaning seasons for gathering opium, seasons for fighting, etc.

I think the Trump plan had the withdrawal scheduled during the poppy see gathering season, where the Taliban would not be prepared or able to fight.

Biden wanted it around the 20th anniversary of 9/11, which is fighting season.

Never followed up on it though.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Princess L on August 31, 2021, 02:37:37 PM
We left Americans behind.  Treacherous.

Supporting the withdrawal and supporting the way in which the Biden administration carried out the withdrawal are two completely different things.



This
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on August 31, 2021, 05:44:08 PM
Anyone listening to President Biden's speech?  Some notable comments:

He said the Americans we left behind wanted to stay, but that we're going to get them out if they want to come home. 

He said he had no choice but to pull our troops out based on the deal President Trump negotiated.  Then he said he pulled everyone out because he made a campaign promise to pull our troops out.  Pretty much a word for word copy of what Obama said about Iraq. 

He said there was no way to avoid this chaos.

Speech?

The feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap read someone else’s thoughts off a teleprompter.

The 25th Amendment and Impeachment are both too good for that lying old corrupt windsock.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 31, 2021, 07:30:12 PM
Biden is a useful idiot. Left will do everything they want and then treat him like a hero when they remove him.....along with that they will absolve any blame to the fact that he's obviously mentally gone.

There is nothing more these people love than a blameless situation. Nothing will be reversed, nobody will do anything about it.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on August 31, 2021, 09:10:54 PM
Biden is a useful idiot. Left will do everything they want and then treat him like a hero when they remove him.....along with that they will absolve any blame to the fact that he's obviously mentally gone.

There is nothing more these people love than a blameless situation. Nothing will be reversed, nobody will do anything about it.

Nobody will do anything about it because all the Washington DC politicians are only there to make money for themselves.

Except maybe Kyrsten Sinema….who obviously only entered politics to get in my pants.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 06:42:22 AM
As Biden Administration Wages a War of Lies, Al-Qaida Returns to Afghanistan
Townhall.com ^ | September1, 2021 | Austin Bay
Posted on 9/1/2021, 9:00:15 AM by Kaslin

As resident Joe Biden's propagandists wage a rearguard political war of lies and narrative distortion, al-Qaida has begun exploiting his administration's on-the-ground Afghanistan disaster.

The administration's lies, spin and evasions are as morally dreadful as they are pathetically transparent. Jen Psaki's jaw-dropping Aug. 23 "Americans aren't stranded" denial already ranks high among all-time White House double head-slappers.

Psaki employed a totalitarian rhetorical trick of the ilk George Orwell condemned. To avoid answering a fair but critical question, she attacked the reporter for using the word "stranded." Then, she redefined the word to mean something it does not, arguing citizens who couldn't enter the Kabul airport weren't stranded because they were in telephonic contact.

Earth to Jen. Your car stalls and you're stranded on the highway. You call AAA, but you're stranded until the tow truck arrives. Q.E.D.

American citizens were stranded in Afghanistan when she pulled her stunt. Some still stranded are potential hostages. On Aug. 31, a reporter asked Pentagon spokesman John Kirby if the U.S. would evacuate more citizens should the opportunity arise. Kirby inadvertently delivered a coup de Jaw-Drop Jen: "We have Americans that get stranded in countries all the time and we do everything we can to try to facilitate safe passage."

How many U.S. citizens remain in Afghanistan? The Biden State Department doesn't know, and the figures vary from 100 to 1,500. State Department flacks, including Antony Blinken, also known as Secretary of State Blinken, excuse their befuddlement because the circumstances are chaotic.

Hey, Blinken -- you and yours seeded the unnecessary and deadly chaos.

For years, American veterans groups and civil organizations have sponsored programs to bring former Afghan translators and their families to the United States. Numerous nongovernmental organizations have focused on protecting other Afghans now vulnerable to Taliban execution, for example, religious minorities and women's and children's rights activists.

After Biden's April 14 withdrawal announcement, several of these programs morphed into ad hoc rescue efforts. The State Department response? It would take 12 to 18 months to get Special Immigrant Visas.

Aware that a decision to withdraw was in the works, a competent State Department would have integrated these efforts into its evacuation plan. Issuing treacly lip service plaudits is not integrated planning.

Oh, wait. What plan? Despite American military expertise in Noncombatant Evacuation Operations, or NEOs, Biden's Afghan debacle proves the planning effort was casual, haphazard and rank amateur.

A quote from my Aug. 17 column: "Even a NEO involving an area as large as Afghanistan could have been planned and prepared in 30 to 45 days if the Joint Chiefs of Staff had coordinating power and the State Department arranged for temporary refugee housing in third-country safe havens." The decision to quit Bagram air base "was utterly stupid, at least until threatened Afghans were extracted."

Blinken's State Department served as the lead agency -- that's U.S. doctrine for a NEO. But withdrawal from a combat zone is still a military operation. State Department suits, however, started giving specific security orders. The suits determined protecting the Kabul embassy -- protecting them -- took priority over keeping the Bagram airbase.

Why didn't the Joint Chiefs insist on sending in reinforcements to hold Bagram and protect the embassy? My guess: Biden's State Department is staffed by brats with paper credentials who insist they're smarter than everyone else, and the current ranking Pentagon military officers are political appointees with epaulets.

Meanwhile, in Afghanistan on Aug. 30, Dr. Amin-ul-Haq, an al-Qaida leader and former Osama bin Laden security chief, returned to his native Nangarhar province.

On Aug. 20 Biden said, "What interest do we have in Afghanistan at this point with al-Qaida gone?"

Hey, White House Resident. We defeated al-Qaida in Afghanistan. But your disastrous bugout has put 9/11's mass-murdering terrorists back in business.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 07:23:42 AM
BIDEN is a POS.     Holy F.  Who the FNG hell does this!!! 

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 07:26:41 AM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 07:58:40 AM
https://nypost.com/2021/09/01/biden-pressured-ghani-to-create-perception-taliban-wasnt-winning/
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 08:23:39 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/31/opinion/afghanistan-taliban-allies.html


So fng bad. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 01, 2021, 08:49:46 AM
Lurker and Strawman will be along soon to make more excuses
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 08:51:13 AM
Lurker and Strawman will be along soon to make more excuses

There are no excuses for this.   >:( :(
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 08:52:55 AM
https://twitter.com/MalangKhostay/status/1433073314256367622


 >:(


FUJB you pedophile liberal pos! 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 10:02:26 AM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/us-woman-left-behind-kabul-rescue-dogs-dod-no-fly-animal-policy

What a FNG mess.    FUJB you disgusting pos. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 10:12:09 AM
It is Far More Sinister Than You Think
Townhall.com ^ | September 1, 2021 | David McGrath
Posted on 9/1/2021, 12:28:56 PM by Kaslin

More than 800,000 Soldiers, Airmen, Marines and Navy Sailors served in the war in Afghanistan. I am one of them. I worked the streets of Kabul on my last deployment. Day, and night we trudged the mind- bending, stomach- turning streets of the overcrowded streets of Kabul. It amazed me how many people could fit on the back of one motor bike, and how daring civilians were to jump right in front of an armored vehicle with the horn blaring with seemingly no regard for their personal safety.

I became a man there too. I learned a lot about myself. I fought hard there. I fired a weapon at another man whose only goal in his entire sad, misguided life was to kill me. As the fight raged on, the man’s body just stayed there after I put him down. For nearly Eighteen hours, I watched as other fighters stepped over this man, took his weapon, and stripped him of his ammunition. At the end of the day, all he was to them was another dead fighter, there to be stripped of his supplies and forgotten.

It is fitting that the 10th anniversary of that day is upcoming. It's September 13th. I remember it well. It was 2 days after the 10th anniversary of 9/11 and just a year before the uprising in Benghazi, Libya.

I got to peek far behind the war curtain on that year-long deployment. I was in a leadership position. I agonized over every one of the thousands of decisions I made that year. There is nothing worse to a soldier than the feeling you get when you may have flubbed something and put another man who wears your unit patch in danger. It is indescribable. You would rather die yourself than to get someone else hurt.

That’s why I cannot fathom the missteps, the almost pathological behavior of President Joe Biden’s administration, and the decisions surrounding ending the Afghanistan conflict. I have to imagine that this is all by design. Nobody could be incompetent enough to give away our most strategic staging area in country: Bagram Air field.

Bagram is so important positionally. It is easy to defend. It sits Three-Hundred miles from China and Iran, who are serious adversaries to the United States on the world stage.

General Mark Milley has come out and said that Bagram was not important tactically to the Afghanistan pull-out. Milley has had some idiotic moments, but he is not a stupid man. General Milley does not believe that Bagram isn’t important. The worms and pencil-necks of this administration have clearly gotten to him. Think tank guys like Jake Sullivan and Anthony Blinken have talked General Milley out of his good senses.

The plan had to go forward without Bagram. The plan was to add to world de-stabilization. Demoralize completely the military, and make sure that a plane load of fresh democrat voters would be en route to a United States city near you. It is the only logical conclusion that I can draw. Even Joe Biden, who had been a failure for Forty-plus years as a senator could not have screwed this up, like this. It has to be by design.

Read any communist playbook. Most communists like Barack Obama and soon to be President Kamala Harris see no use for an American military as currently constituted. Much like the police force, they want to break them down and build them up as their military. One that does their bidding and holds their ideals.

Step one: Demoralize. Step 2: Throw it into disarray. That has happened as well.

Enlisted men do not trust their leadership. Find them incompetent, and want them tried for murder after the death of 12 Marines, a Corpsman and a soldier last week in a suicide attack.

The military is a complete mess right now. Everyone wants out. Everyone is completely embarrassed and is ready to throw their rank on the table and head off to make solar panels like John Kerry promised.

To the ruling class, this is a fantastic result. They do not want good, red-blooded Americans who find what happened over the past 7-10 days as reprehensible.

They want ideologues who will go along to get along, and do their bidding. Like Mark Milley, who was looking for "White Rage" In the halls of the Pentagon before this pesky Afghanistan issue cropped up. Or Lloyd Austin, who was never a bright General, who was giving political purity tests to lower enlisted upon his installation of Secretary of Defense last January. They are nothing more than lackeys with no moral compass, or honor. They are just right for this administration.

It should not surprise you that Americans are stranded in Afghanistan, behind enemy lines, yet plane load after plane load of refugees left Kabul ear-marked for the United States. The people left behind could be or maybe will be again Trump voters. Hell, they may not even be vaccinated (Gasp!) These refugees will be so happy to be in the States that they will vote for the ruling class forever. Which is all that matters.

Oh, and one more thing: You should not be surprised at how callous the President acted when receiving the remains of our honored war dead at Dover Air Base yesterday. These patriotic kids are not his constituents. The president nonchalantly checked his watch at every casket that was unloaded. Casualties of his bungling of the surrender. Nobody will really hold him to account. He is literally here to be the patsy. A Grandfatherly idiot, who is barely coherent enough to understand what he is being used for. There was no happy ending to the war in Afghanistan. No Sailor kissing a girl in Times Square, in a pretty white dress while fireworks go off in the background. It ended like it started, with American blood, and so many unanswered questions.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 01, 2021, 10:18:01 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/01/nancy-pelosi-blocks-house-from-reading-names-of-13-killed-u-s-service-members/
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 11:45:46 AM
BIDEN is a POS.     Holy F.  Who the FNG hell does this!!! 



Heartbreaking.

The dad is right:  a high school kid could have handled this better. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 11:46:59 AM
Heartbreaking.

The dad is right:  a high school kid could have handled this better.

I was referring to the meeting they described.  Biden is a disgusting perverted liberal dementia riddled freak. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 11:48:36 AM


 :o  I seriously cannot keep up with all of this.  It's ironic that there are so many lies, so much incompetence, so many mistakes, etc. that they almost cancel each other out with the public. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 11:49:39 AM
https://twitter.com/MalangKhostay/status/1433073314256367622


 >:(


FUJB you pedophile liberal pos!

If we're going to leave behind high quality vehicles at least take the friggin keys, slash the tires, etc. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 11:52:31 AM
:o  I seriously cannot keep up with all of this.  It's ironic that there are so many lies, so much incompetence, so many mistakes, etc. that they almost cancel each other out with the public.

Aside from the editorial page, the NYT does really good reporting.  I get the paper daily and have been following this for months.   The lies Biden has told as documented daily in the NYT is staggering.  Its either the worst incompetence imaginable or flat out lies. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 11:52:47 AM
I was referring to the meeting they described.  Biden is a disgusting perverted liberal dementia riddled freak.

Yeah I know.  The daughter said he wouldn't look them in the face and only talked about the death of his own son, instead of this American patriot. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 11:55:54 AM
Aside from the editorial page, the NYT does really good reporting.  I get the paper daily and have been following this for months.   The lies Biden has told as documented daily in the NYT is staggering.  Its either the worst incompetence imaginable or flat out lies.

And the list keeps growing.  One of the lies that really gets me is saying we would not leave any Americans behind.  Biden said it.  His press secretary actually had righteous indignation when asked about stranding Americans.  Leaving Americans behind is one of the worst things I've ever seen. 

I'm really surprised the NY Times is doing honest reporting.  Good. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Straw Man on September 01, 2021, 12:12:46 PM
And the list keeps growing.  One of the lies that really gets me is saying we would not leave any Americans behind.  Biden said it.  His press secretary actually had righteous indignation when asked about stranding Americans.  Leaving Americans behind is one of the worst things I've ever seen. 

I'm really surprised the NY Times is doing honest reporting.  Good.

We started telling American who wanted to leave back in March of this year
They had plenty of time to get out if they wanted to leave
We can't keep the military there forever waiting for people who had the last 5 months to get their ass out if they wanted to leave

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on September 01, 2021, 12:23:07 PM
Defund the JoeJill Biden administration.

When you have zero credibility, cannot tell the truth, and are completely incompetent, you should not have any access to taxpayer money.

JoeJill Biden is by far the worst President in the history of the United States. His supporters are worse, their denial is due to a total lack of intelligence.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Straw Man on September 01, 2021, 12:28:45 PM
Defund the JoeJill Biden administration.

When you have zero credibility, cannot tell the truth, and are completely incompetent, you should not have any access to taxpayer money.

JoeJill Biden is by far the worst President in the history of the United States. His supporters are worse, their denial is due to a total lack of intelligence.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 01, 2021, 12:31:56 PM
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Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Straw Man on September 01, 2021, 12:38:34 PM
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LOL @ Rasmussen

Who gives a fuck

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 12:39:01 PM


No one is defending this incompetence but partisan HACKS
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Straw Man on September 01, 2021, 12:46:28 PM
No one is defending this incompetence but partisan HACKS

Unlike THE TRAITOR ...Biden actually takes responsibility


Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 12:48:43 PM
Unlike THE TRAITOR ...Biden actually takes responsibility



How can he take responsibility, blame trump, and then declare it a victory all in one sentence?  Maybe you should get some cognitive testing yourself over there. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 01, 2021, 12:55:38 PM
Unlike THE TRAITOR ...Biden actually takes responsibility



https://nypost.com/2021/08/31/biden-blames-trump-for-afghan-pullout-then-takes-credit-for-it/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=com.duckduckgo.mobile.ios.OpenAction2
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 01:29:05 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/majority-of-interpreters-other-u-s-visa-applicants-were-left-behind-in-afghanistan-official-says-11630513321

Who the F did they fly out then? 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Straw Man on September 01, 2021, 01:40:13 PM
How can he take responsibility, blame trump, and then declare it a victory all in one sentence?  Maybe you should get some cognitive testing yourself over there.

tell me the time stamp for that "one sentence"
I can't find it

If you can't find it either then take your own advise and "get some cognitive testing yourself over there"
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 01:47:38 PM
tell me the time stamp for that "one sentence"
I can't find it

If you can't find it either then take your own advise and "get some cognitive testing yourself over there"

His own speeches which are little more than ramblings of a dementia riddled corrupt old career politician. 

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-edit-biden-afghanistan-20210901-kl6wcr6fbjbxdgi7ytyphmhada-story.html
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Straw Man on September 01, 2021, 01:56:46 PM
His own speeches which are little more than ramblings of a dementia riddled corrupt old career politician. 

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-edit-biden-afghanistan-20210901-kl6wcr6fbjbxdgi7ytyphmhada-story.html

so you can't find the time stamp in the video or did you just imagine that you heard that sentence?
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 01, 2021, 03:15:11 PM
Lurker and Strawman will be along soon to make more excuses

BoB bonobos reaction is so predictable  ;D

Coach, Bidens military brass didn't inform the Dutch,French,Aussies & other coalition partners about the U.S. withdrawal , Brits told them  ::) :o !.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: AbrahamG on September 01, 2021, 03:36:23 PM
"Thank you, President Biden, for keeping a promise Trump made, but then abandoned when he got to office."

-Anne Coulter
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 03:39:05 PM
"Thank you, President Biden, for keeping a promise Trump made, but then abandoned when he got to office."

-Anne Coulter

Lol.   Flying on that old dusty hag
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 01, 2021, 03:59:30 PM
I really hope this isn't true.

It isn't.  It's posted by Coach, that should be the first clue.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=did+american+leave+service+dogs+behind+in+afghan
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 04:10:13 PM
It isn't.  It's posted by Coach, that should be the first clue.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=did+american+leave+service+dogs+behind+in+afghan

It's apparently not true that our military left behind their own service animals, but it is true that there were service dogs who were owned by private contractors and worked with our military and were in fact left at the airport. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 01, 2021, 04:31:04 PM
It's apparently not true that our military left behind their own service animals, but it is true that there were service dogs who were owned by private contractors and worked with our military and were in fact left at the airport.

Do you have a link to that?  I couldn't find one.  Not saying it isn't possible, but I don't see anything of that sort reported.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 04:44:21 PM
Do you have a link to that?  I couldn't find one.  Not saying it isn't possible, but I don't see anything of that sort reported.

Yes.   It was contractors dogs but apparently an org saved most of them and working with a few locals.   

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 04:53:42 PM
Do you have a link to that?  I couldn't find one.  Not saying it isn't possible, but I don't see anything of that sort reported.

“Contract working dogs, rather than military working dogs, appear to be the ones left behind.”

https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/afghanistan/2021/08/31/no-the-military-did-not-leave-its-working-dogs-behind-dod-says/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Socialflow+ARM&fbclid=IwAR3Ui5lojMaH0pozNWh7qnYjMwZ4DD0S4H9G4DSFZQks4_J9VpAqcTbpZZI
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 01, 2021, 05:02:08 PM
“Contract working dogs, rather than military working dogs, appear to be the ones left behind.”

https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/afghanistan/2021/08/31/no-the-military-did-not-leave-its-working-dogs-behind-dod-says/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Socialflow+ARM&fbclid=IwAR3Ui5lojMaH0pozNWh7qnYjMwZ4DD0S4H9G4DSFZQks4_J9VpAqcTbpZZI

That article is dated 8/31.  The quote I pulled is from today 9/1 :

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The Defense Department cited "custom regulations" as an obstacle in evacuating "stray dogs" from Afghanistan. It did not deny the authenticity of the viral image but disputed that the animals had worked with the military in any capacity.

Meanwhile, Kabul Small Animal Rescue, an animal welfare group and an affiliate of Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals International, which has tended to animals injured or displaced during the war in Afghanistan, tweeted it was aiming to evacuate animals in the cargo hold of planes leaving Kabul's airport.

The group had launched "Operation Hercules," an effort to airlift animals out of the country. However, that work had been taking place for days before the social media claims went viral.

A previous post from Kabul Small Animal Rescue described the animals as "dogs and cats left behind as people flee" in Kabul. The group never described the animals as being service animals.

"All our working dogs left with their handlers. We would not leave them behind," Pahon said. "To suggest otherwise is ridiculous."
---

They do not refer to them as contractor/service/working dogs.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Princess L on September 01, 2021, 06:51:09 PM
Unlike THE TRAITOR ...Biden actually takes responsibility



How is he taking responsibility?  He doesn't even know when it's time to change his diaper.  ::)
Wait...maybe he does and that's why he kept looking at his watch during the ceremony for our murdered soldiers.

24-29 California Public School Students Are Still Trapped In Afghanistan

INDEFENSIBLE
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 07:28:45 PM
That article is dated 8/31.  The quote I pulled is from today 9/1 :

---

The Defense Department cited "custom regulations" as an obstacle in evacuating "stray dogs" from Afghanistan. It did not deny the authenticity of the viral image but disputed that the animals had worked with the military in any capacity.

Meanwhile, Kabul Small Animal Rescue, an animal welfare group and an affiliate of Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals International, which has tended to animals injured or displaced during the war in Afghanistan, tweeted it was aiming to evacuate animals in the cargo hold of planes leaving Kabul's airport.

The group had launched "Operation Hercules," an effort to airlift animals out of the country. However, that work had been taking place for days before the social media claims went viral.

A previous post from Kabul Small Animal Rescue described the animals as "dogs and cats left behind as people flee" in Kabul. The group never described the animals as being service animals.

"All our working dogs left with their handlers. We would not leave them behind," Pahon said. "To suggest otherwise is ridiculous."
---

They do not refer to them as contractor/service/working dogs.

I'm not buying that there were just a bunch of stray dogs running around.  They may not have been owned by the military, but they were working with us.  There really isn't much difference between what we did to the Afghans who helped us and the dogs who helped us. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 07:31:19 PM
How is he taking responsibility?  He doesn't even know when it's time to change his diaper.  ::)
Wait...maybe he does and that's why he kept looking at his watch during the ceremony for our murdered soldiers.

24-29 California Public School Students Are Still Trapped In Afghanistan

INDEFENSIBLE

You have got to be kidding me.  It seems like every day I'm saying "this is one of the worst things I've ever seen."  We left American kids behind enemy lines.  How in the world is every politician in DC and ALL of the media not screaming to high heaven over this??  Or give it the same treatment they did to Obama's "kids in cages"? 

Several California Public School Students Are Still Trapped In Afghanistan
Updated September 1, 2021
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/01/1033294030/american-students-afghanistan-sacramento-san-juan-district
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 01, 2021, 07:50:19 PM
I'm not buying that there were just a bunch of stray dogs running around.  They may not have been owned by the military, but they were working with us.  There really isn't much difference between what we did to the Afghans who helped us and the dogs who helped us.

I think I will take the words of the agency in charge of the animals and our Defense Department at what they were.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 07:53:25 PM
I think I will take the words of the agency in charge of the animals and our Defense Department at what they were.

I'm not accepting the word of anyone trying to cover their rear ends in this fiasco.  And at this point I'm not talking about whether we abandoned dogs owned by the military.  It's the other dogs that were used to help us. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 08:05:26 PM
Biden repeatedly misled American public about Afghanistan withdrawal
Biden's assurances about the Afghanistan withdrawal were repeatedly proven wrong
By Houston Keene | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-repeatedly-misled-americans-afghanistan-withdrawal
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 09:09:02 PM
I might have to take a break from reading about this situation.  It's a little overwhelming.  One person's decision killed those kids.

The suicide bombing, which took the lives of 13 members of the US Armed Forces, happed while evacuations of Americans and Afghan allies were underway during the final days of the 20-year war in that nation.

Director of MRC Latino, Jorge Bonilla posted the interview with Pardo-Maurer said the Department of Defense also knew "where and when" the attack would happen. He said that "a Predator drone had a lock on him," and that the DOD "refused to grant permission to fire upon that bomber."

He said that permission "was requested and was denied." In Pardo-Maurer's view, the reason for this denial is "Because we are in this process of negotiating with the Taliban, who aren't even in control of their own government or their own people."


. . . .

US military had drone lock on Kabul suicide bomber, didn't take the shot: former official
"A Predator drone had a lock on him," and the DOD "refused to grant permission to fire upon that bomber," Pardo-Maurer said.
AMERICAN NEWS Sep 1, 2021
https://thepostmillennial.com/former-deputy-assistant-us-military-drones-kabul?utm_campaign=64469
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on September 01, 2021, 09:55:56 PM
How is he taking responsibility?  He doesn't even know when it's time to change his diaper.  ::)
Wait...maybe he does and that's why he kept looking at his watch during the ceremony for our murdered soldiers.

24-29 California Public School Students Are Still Trapped In Afghanistan

INDEFENSIBLE

JoeJill Biden is not taking any responsibility and never will take any responsibility.

The first thing he did was claim the evacuation was a unanimous decision made by all of his advisers.

In other words, it was a total fuck up, but others made the decision for him and he had to go along.

The feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap should be put in prison. No 25th Amendment or Impeachment bullshit, straight to prison for lying to the country and causing the death of innocent Americans.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IroNat on September 02, 2021, 03:42:53 AM
Afghanistan is being ignored by the left media and will fade from view.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Body-Buildah on September 02, 2021, 06:47:23 AM
tard
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: residue on September 02, 2021, 08:33:53 AM
Afghanistan is being ignored by the left media and will fade from view.
perfect, who gives a fuck about that shithole,
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IroNat on September 02, 2021, 08:58:18 AM
perfect, who gives a fuck about that shithole,

I really don't care about Afghansistan.

I do care about the incompetence of our leaders.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: residue on September 02, 2021, 09:20:28 AM
I really don't care about Afghansistan.

I do care about the incompetence of our leaders.

you think staying in an endless war is competence?
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IroNat on September 02, 2021, 09:30:21 AM
you think staying in an endless war is competence?

Nope.

The incompetence was the mis-management of the exit by Dementia Joe and his Joint Chiefs of Military Fools.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: OzmO on September 02, 2021, 09:50:51 AM
Nope.

The incompetence was the mis-management of the exit by Dementia Joe and his Joint Chiefs of Military Fools.

What's really puzzling is that the JC would have managed this. 

Does Biden just order pull out and leave it all behind? 

Do the JCs say, wait we can't do that because we will be arming them?

Was it part of the agreement originally set up?

I find it hard to believe the JC would go along with leaving all that stuff behind.

I talked to a retired gunny Sargent friend of mind and he had no answer for it.  He said there are specific protocols when leaving to destroy all that equipment.

I would really like to know how the fuck this all happened.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 02, 2021, 10:51:24 AM
Report: 30+ California Children Remain Stranded in Afghanistan


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/02/report-30-california-children-remain-stranded-in-afghanistan/
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 02, 2021, 12:26:48 PM
Report: 30+ California Children Remain Stranded in Afghanistan


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/02/report-30-california-children-remain-stranded-in-afghanistan/

Hey Coach, what would Biden & BoB Straw do with 120 000 Afghani "interpreters" ?.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 02, 2021, 02:52:36 PM
What's really puzzling is that the JC would have managed this. 

Does Biden just order pull out and leave it all behind? 

Do the JCs say, wait we can't do that because we will be arming them?

Was it part of the agreement originally set up?

I find it hard to believe the JC would go along with leaving all that stuff behind.

I talked to a retired gunny Sargent friend of mind and he had no answer for it.  He said there are specific protocols when leaving to destroy all that equipment.

I would really like to know how the fuck this all happened.

At the end of the day, the military is a gigantic bureaucracy. Probably those at the top were completely detached from what was happening on the ground.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IroNat on September 02, 2021, 03:27:50 PM
The Prez has the final word on military matters, even though he may be is incompetent.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 02, 2021, 04:09:38 PM
I'm not accepting the word of anyone trying to cover their rear ends in this fiasco.  And at this point I'm not talking about whether we abandoned dogs owned by the military.  It's the other dogs that were used to help us.

I'm not accepting the word of anyone with a political bias trying to use this as an excuse to whine and cry.  Especially when online reports contradict the posts they made. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 02, 2021, 04:11:01 PM
Nope.

The incompetence was the mis-management of the exit by Dementia Joe and his Joint Chiefs of Military Fools.

The exit that was obviously pulled off better than Trumpy's plan for one and at the last minute?
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on September 02, 2021, 04:14:59 PM
The exit that was obviously pulled off better than Trumpy's plan for one and at the last minute?

You should save some of your stupidity for Biden’s next colossal fuck up.

I know you think it is infinite, but even your retardation must have some type of limit.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 02, 2021, 04:19:50 PM
You should save some of your stupidity for Biden’s next colossal fuck up.

I know you think it is infinite, but even your retardation must have some type of limit.

Try to be a bit more original next time. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: AbrahamG on September 02, 2021, 04:23:08 PM
Try to be a bit more original next time.

She's limited.  That's really all she's got.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 02, 2021, 04:30:24 PM
She's limited.  That's really all she's got.

Thank god she read it when someone else said pretty much the same thing before to another dumb ass...  left to her own devices she wouldn't be posting.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 02, 2021, 04:32:08 PM
Hey Coach, what would Biden & BoB Straw do with 120 000 Afghani "interpreters" ?.

Probably set them up to be killed then call the mission a success
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 02, 2021, 04:43:07 PM
The Prez has the final word on military matters, even though he may be incompetent.

Yeah but he’s not just incompetent but incoherent.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 02, 2021, 06:52:55 PM
I'm not accepting the word of anyone with a political bias trying to use this as an excuse to whine and cry.  Especially when online reports contradict the posts they made.

 ::)
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 02, 2021, 08:25:46 PM
Three more years of leadership from this commander in chief. Imagine it.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IroNat on September 03, 2021, 03:32:09 AM
Three more years of leadership from this commander in chief. Imagine it.

What could go wrong?

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BowedGiantHectorsdolphin-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: OzmO on September 03, 2021, 07:01:32 AM
At the end of the day, the military is a gigantic bureaucracy. Probably those at the top were completely detached from what was happening on the ground.

But this would go up and down the chain of command starting from the company commanders and going upwards asking what the plan was for transport or destruction of the equipment.

Were they specifically told not to do anything?
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 03, 2021, 07:48:27 AM
But this would go up and down the chain of command starting from the company commanders and going upwards asking what the plan was for transport or destruction of the equipment.

Were they specifically told not to do anything?

You got me on this one. There are some people on this board with military backgrounds who might have an answer for you.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: residue on September 03, 2021, 08:46:52 AM
Report: 30+ California Children Remain Stranded in Afghanistan


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/02/report-30-california-children-remain-stranded-in-afghanistan/

It's a little disingenuous to call them "california children," they're at best dual citizens 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 03, 2021, 10:48:10 AM
It's a little disingenuous to call them "california children," they're at best dual citizens

Let's assume they are dual citizens.  What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?  They are American citizens.  They live and go to school in Sacramento, California.  We left them behind enemy lines. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 03, 2021, 12:22:54 PM
The exit that was obviously pulled off better than Trumpy's plan for one and at the last minute?


It was a COWARDLY escape , stop bullshiting yourself !.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 03, 2021, 12:51:01 PM
The exit that was obviously pulled off better than Trumpy's plan for one and at the last minute?

Biden was offered Kabul and he turned it down leaving the Taliban to secure the perimeter of HKA. Your boy left our Americans and Allies hanging while killing our service people at the same time. Your ignorance is beyond comprehension. But it seems you’re implying this was a success...just like your boy made you to believe
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 03, 2021, 01:03:22 PM
Biden was offered Kabul and he turned it down leaving the Taliban to secure the perimeter of HKA. Your boy left our Americans and Allies hanging while killing our service people at the same time. Your ignorance is beyond comprehension. But it seems you’re implying this was a success...just like your boy made you to believe

Bidens fat general forgot to inform Australian guys, Brits told them about Biden  "plan" !. What a FUCK UP !.

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 03, 2021, 02:35:40 PM
.

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 03, 2021, 03:07:37 PM
Biden was offered Kabul and he turned it down leaving the Taliban to secure the perimeter of HKA. Your boy left our Americans and Allies hanging while killing our service people at the same time. Your ignorance is beyond comprehension. But it seems you’re implying this was a success...just like your boy made you to believe

You are an idiot.  If you are not lying you are delusional. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on September 03, 2021, 03:24:52 PM
Try to be a bit more original next time.

13 Americans dead
170 Afghans dead

Brain dead liberals….we must maintain focus, what about the Delta variant?

JoeJill Biden will be the end of the Democrat Party for the next 20 years.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 03, 2021, 03:38:34 PM
You are an idiot.  If you are not lying you are delusional.

Keep making excuses for your boy and your terrorist buds

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/08/29/report-taliban-offered-biden-control-of-kabul-but-he-declined/
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 03, 2021, 05:47:49 PM
Keep making excuses for your boy and your terrorist buds

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/08/29/report-taliban-offered-biden-control-of-kabul-but-he-declined/

That's why Taliban Joe didn't want to have the Dutch,French,British,Aussies soldiers @ the Kabul Airport !.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 04, 2021, 07:40:39 AM
13 Americans dead
170 Afghans dead

Brain dead liberals….we must maintain focus, what about the Delta variant?

JoeJill Biden will be the end of the Democrat Party for the next 20 years.

How many Americans dead in the past 20 years?
How many Afghans dead in the past 20 years?

Most would be glad our troops are home and out of danger.  Except for moronic Trumpturds like yourself.  Try again.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 04, 2021, 07:42:03 AM
Keep making excuses for your boy and your terrorist buds

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/08/29/report-taliban-offered-biden-control-of-kabul-but-he-declined/

Why would he want it when it would require American troops there to oversee it?   ::) 

Are you really this retarded do your tears get in the way when you try to read?
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on September 04, 2021, 08:18:45 AM
How many Americans dead in the past 20 years?
How many Afghans dead in the past 20 years?

Most would be glad our troops are home and out of danger.  Except for moronic Trumpturds like yourself.  Try again.

Give JoeJill Biden another month and he will have killed more Americans in Afghanistan than Covid killed here at home.

Only a purebred retard would support this joke of an administration.

Retard.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: chaos on September 04, 2021, 08:53:07 AM
How many Americans dead in the past 20 years?
How many Afghans dead in the past 20 years?

Most would be glad our troops are home and out of danger.  Except for moronic Trumpturds like yourself.  Try again.
Can you quote anyone here that says we should have stayed in Afghanistan?
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 04, 2021, 10:27:17 AM
Give JoeJill Biden another month and he will have killed more Americans in Afghanistan than Covid killed here at home.

Only a purebred retard would support this joke of an administration.

Retard.


Joe and the red wave that controls him could fuck up a wet dream. The framework for this was already done and they wanted to stall until 9/11 like some number worshipping cult.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: TheGrinch on September 04, 2021, 10:30:14 AM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 04, 2021, 10:51:06 AM
Why would he want it when it would require American troops there to oversee it?   ::) 

Are you really this retarded do your tears get in the way when you try to read?

You really aren’t too ..well, anything. Brain dead is the best I can do with you. But right on cue with you covering once again for the enemy...which included our current regime
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 04, 2021, 11:09:48 AM
Why would he want it when it would require American troops there to oversee it?   ::) 

Are you really this retarded do your tears get in the way when you try to read?

Because at the very least could have brought our troop home alive I got everybody else out alive more than likely but instead he did a complete opposite and set them up for their death. What do you think this is all about you fucking idiot?
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 04, 2021, 03:54:49 PM
Give JoeJill Biden another month and he will have killed more Americans in Afghanistan than Covid killed here at home.

Only a purebred retard would support this joke of an administration.

Retard.

 ::)   Exaggeration and hyperbole only prove you have nothing else of substance to contribute.  Stick with the mindless whining.  You got 3 more years to do so.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 04, 2021, 03:57:12 PM
You really aren’t too ..well, anything. Brain dead is the best I can do with you. But right on cue with you covering once again for the enemy...which included our current regime

Sorry you didn't get a chance to cheer for this same action when Trumpy approved it and failed to execute it.

You are probably retarded enough to think Trumpys plan of blowing up the military base before bringing the military home was a good idea too.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 04, 2021, 04:04:42 PM
Sorry you didn't get a chance to cheer for this same action when Trumpy approved it and failed to execute it.

You are probably retarded enough to think Trumpys plan of blowing up the military base before bringing the military home was a good idea too.

Sure...there’s a difference between doing the right way with a plan and getting people killed. Biden PURPOSELY defied intel that told him not to do it but instead ordered to be done his way...and as usual, the fucker failed. That fucker has had literally 50 years of failure. But hey, you voted for our troops to get killed
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 04, 2021, 04:30:26 PM
Sure...there’s a difference between doing the right way with a plan and getting people killed. Biden PURPOSELY defied intel that told him not to do it but instead ordered to be done his way...and as usual, the fucker failed. That fucker has had literally 50 years of failure. But hey, you voted for our troops to get killed

 ::)  Go sit down with your bullshit.

---
1 - Trumpy says it he started the process and it couldn't be stopped.
“I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process. 21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop.”  --Donald Trump, June 21st this year, at a rally in Ohio. 
---
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 04, 2021, 04:38:58 PM
::)  Go sit down with your bullshit.

---
1 - Trumpy says it he started the process and it couldn't be stopped.
“I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process. 21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop.”  --Donald Trump, June 21st this year, at a rally in Ohio. 
---

Also, you obviously didn’t read one fucking word I wrote. You might me one of 10 people who thinks Biden didn’t do any wrong and immediately goes to TDS...sick  “Trumpy” wouldn’t have got troops killed and everyone out..alive and wouldn’t have left anyone behind then call it a “success” ffs

His quote was completely irrelevant because Biden was warned NOT to try to pull out back in May. What part of that are not getting? Like one article said, he was more interested in perception
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 04, 2021, 05:08:07 PM
13 Americans dead
170 Afghans dead

Brain dead liberals….we must maintain focus, what about the Delta variant?

JoeJill Biden will be the end of the Democrat Party for the next 20 years.


170 dead civilians, like it or not !. War time criminals should be prosecuted !.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 04, 2021, 05:14:59 PM
::)   Exaggeration and hyperbole only prove you have nothing else of substance to contribute.  Stick with the mindless whining.  You got 3 more years to do so.


Hey BoB,  what's happened to YOURS Russian Bounty Hunters in Afghanistan !.

Tell us that IDIOTIC story again !.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 06, 2021, 05:49:10 AM
kip to comments.

The Taliban reportedly won't let planes leave Afghanistan until 'they get more out of the Americans'
The Week ^ | 05 September 2021 | TIM O'DONNELL
Posted on 9/6/2021, 2:17:22 AM by blueplum

...The White House and State Department have maintained that they hold leverage over the Taliban... but a senior congressional source told CBS News that the Taliban is basically holding the planes "hostage" so they can "get more out of the Americans."...

...Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Tex.), the ranking Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, agrees. He told Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday that he's concerned that U.S. envoy Zalmay Khalilzad will come away from the talks recommending that the Biden administration acknowledge the Taliban as the legitimate government...

(Excerpt) Read more at theweek.com
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 07, 2021, 06:53:50 AM
Also, you obviously didn’t read one fucking word I wrote. You might me one of 10 people who thinks Biden didn’t do any wrong and immediately goes to TDS...sick  “Trumpy” wouldn’t have got troops killed and everyone out..alive and wouldn’t have left anyone behind then call it a “success” ffs

His quote was completely irrelevant because Biden was warned NOT to try to pull out back in May. What part of that are not getting? Like one article said, he was more interested in perception

You obviously didn't read the part where Trumpy was bragging that the pull out couldn't be stopped even though they tried to.   ::)
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2021, 09:25:04 AM
You obviously didn't read the part where Trumpy was bragging that the pull out couldn't be stopped even though they tried to.   ::)

lol...oh boy
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on September 07, 2021, 10:37:07 AM
“We got out all the Americans and SIV holders who wanted to leave..”

Except the 13 dead American soldiers
Except the 170 dead Afghans
Except the stranded American citizens
Except the stranded American school children
Except the stranded SIV holders
Except the stranded Americans being held hostage
Except the stranded Americans being held for ransom
Except the military dogs
Except the stranded American women and children left to escape on their own

Other than that, we got everyone out successfully.

- JoeJill Biden
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: residue on September 07, 2021, 10:40:24 AM
“We got out all the Americans and SIV holders who wanted to leave..”

Except the 13 dead American soldiers
Except the 170 dead Afghans
Except the stranded American citizens
Except the stranded American school children
Except the stranded SIV holders
Except the stranded Americans being held hostage
Except the stranded Americans being held for ransom
Except the military dogs
Except the stranded American women and children left to escape on their own

Other than that, we got everyone out successfully.

- JoeJill Biden
if pulling out was easy, i wouldnt have 3 kids
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on September 07, 2021, 10:42:32 AM
if pulling out was easy, i wouldnt have 3 kids

And your boyfriend would spend less time cleaning your lower back.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Body-Buildah on September 07, 2021, 11:41:12 AM
Jihad Joe - The Traitor and Liar

Perv of the US (POTUS)

'Kid Sniffer' Champion

CCP Puppet

Ukraine Energy Dollars/China Energy Dollars

Finger-Banging Rapist

Daughter-Raper

Hunter (child-rapist) supporter

Gave Beau Brain-Cancer

Lost his own brain, if one was ever present

Cornpop Corn-Holer

Taliban Trooper
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on September 07, 2021, 12:18:40 PM
Mostly peaceful riot.
Mostly successful withdrawal.

Just another day in JoeJill Biden fantasyland
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 07, 2021, 01:24:32 PM

Taliban Unveils New Cabinet That Includes U.S.-Designated Terrorist



Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: ThisisOverload on September 07, 2021, 03:41:31 PM
And your boyfriend would spend less time cleaning your lower back.

 ;D

10/10
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Body-Buildah on September 07, 2021, 03:53:48 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/53hccj.jpg)
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 07, 2021, 06:07:51 PM
He can lie with a straight face like this because nobody will hold him accountable. 

"The Americans, all of whom wanted to come out have come out, praise God. But there are a lot of Afghans who risked their lives for our soldiers and others. Many got out, some didn’t, and I’m still working on trying to get some of them out."

Schumer falsely says all Americans who wanted to leave Afghanistan have evacuated
The State Department said about 100 Americans are still trying to flee Afghanistan
By Jessica Chasmar | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/schumer-falsely-says-all-americans-afghanistan-evacuated
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 07, 2021, 09:00:54 PM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2021, 04:52:15 AM
4 ex-Guantanamo Bay Inmates Obama Freed in Exchange for Army Deserter Bowe Bergdahl Named as Top Commanders in Afghanistan's New Taliban Government
Daily Mail UK ^ | 9/7/21, updated 9/8/21 | By Keith Griffith and Rob Crilly
Posted on 9/8/2021, 7:44:12 AM by sevinufnine

Four top members of the Taliban's new interim government are former Guantanamo Bay prisoners who were freed by the Obama administration in a prisoner exchange for Army deserter Bowe Bergdahl. They were members of the hardline 'Guantanamo Five' who were traded to free Bergdahl from the Taliban-aligned Haqqani network in 2014. The Taliban on Tuesday announced the appointment of Acting Director of Intelligence Abdul Haq Wasiq, Acting Minister of Borders and Tribal Affairs Norullah Noori, Deputy Defense Minister Mohammad Fazl, and Acting Minister of Information and Culture Khairullah Khairkhah. The four men, who also took part in direct negotiations with the US at the Doha summit last year, spent about 13 years in the military prison camp before they were freed in a trade for the admitted deserter, who was captured by insurgents after wandering off his post.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2021, 05:19:04 AM
State Dept. voices concerns over all-male Taliban government
The Hill ^ | 09/07/2021 | CELINE CASTRONUOVO
Posted on 9/8/2021, 6:46:02 AM by DFG

The State Department on Tuesday expressed concerns over the makeup of the new interim Afghan government announced by the Taliban, including the lack of female leaders and the past actions of some of those appointed to top posts.

A State Department spokesperson said in a statement shared with The Hill that although the Taliban “has presented this as a caretaker cabinet,” the U.S. “will judge the Taliban by its actions, not words.”

“We have made clear our expectation that the Afghan people deserve an inclusive government,” the spokesperson added.

The statement went on to note that the list of names announced by the Taliban earlier Tuesday “consists exclusively of individuals who are members of the Taliban or their close associates and no women.”

The announced leaders come after the Taliban last month specifically called on women to join government offices in an apparent attempt to portray itself as a more moderate version of the group that previously enforced extreme laws on women and girls, including preventing them from going to school and barring them from leaving their homes unless they were accompanied by a man.

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Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2021, 05:23:31 AM
The administration seems to be acting with malice aforethought
American Thinker ^ | 8 Sep, 2021 | Terry Paulding
Posted on 9/8/2021, 7:07:21 AM


It’s difficult to accept that we’re seeing mere incompetence with an administration that defiantly gets everything wrong.

A legal term, malice aforethought identifies intentional murder or malicious bodily harm. From the election to COVID policy, to how we left Afghanistan, to inflation and the budget, to energy policy, to our lawless border, there is no way our entire U.S. government is stupid enough to make so many grievous policy decisions without malice and planning. They’re throwing ingredients into the stew pot to create socialism and it’s a very unsavory dish.

I am not a ‘conspiracy theorist,’ because what I see is real—although leftists use the term against anyone sounding the alarm on any alarming event. From Hunter’s laptop to the election, to the border crisis, to the Delta variant and vaccination, anyone who has questioned the integrity of our government is a “conspiracy theorist.” We have bent over backward to avoid these labels. No longer! Our country is being destroyed, and yes, it is a conspiracy or a series of them. There is simply no other explanation.

The entire COVID fiasco was cooked up in a lab Anthony Fauci fund with taxpayer dollars in China, our number one political, financial, and social enemy. What better way to eliminate freedom and privacy in our country? The “curve” wasn’t meant to be flattened. Easy, effective treatments for COVID were banned. The death count rose in a satisfactorily alarming manner. Hospitals filled; everyone stayed home, losing a year-and-a-half of life, livelihood, and school; and we hid our shameful faces behind masks. Ask yourself, who loses and who benefits?

If we used early treatment with repurposed, cheap drugs, which would have helped people under 70 without co-morbidities survive, we wouldn’t need the vaccine, except for the elderly and those with other health risks.

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Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2021, 09:47:21 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/07/the-soul-of-kabul-taliban-paint-over-murals-with-victory-slogans


You have to be FNG kidding me.   Not sure if true if they had that crack head flooyd memorial in Kabulm but if true - Holy F! 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 08, 2021, 09:57:44 AM
State Dept. voices concerns over all-male Taliban government
The Hill ^ | 09/07/2021 | CELINE CASTRONUOVO
Posted on 9/8/2021, 6:46:02 AM by DFG

The State Department on Tuesday expressed concerns over the makeup of the new interim Afghan government announced by the Taliban, including the lack of female leaders and the past actions of some of those appointed to top posts.

A State Department spokesperson said in a statement shared with The Hill that although the Taliban “has presented this as a caretaker cabinet,” the U.S. “will judge the Taliban by its actions, not words.”

“We have made clear our expectation that the Afghan people deserve an inclusive government,” the spokesperson added.

The statement went on to note that the list of names announced by the Taliban earlier Tuesday “consists exclusively of individuals who are members of the Taliban or their close associates and no women.”

The announced leaders come after the Taliban last month specifically called on women to join government offices in an apparent attempt to portray itself as a more moderate version of the group that previously enforced extreme laws on women and girls, including preventing them from going to school and barring them from leaving their homes unless they were accompanied by a man.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


Truly hilarious.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 08, 2021, 02:13:20 PM

Truly hilarious.


& idiotic  ::)
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2021, 02:54:06 PM
Biden is making otwink look competent.

Shocking! I cannot believe you posted this. I thought your dislike for Obama was so intense that nothing could surpass it. I guess the passage of time changes everything.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 08, 2021, 03:10:32 PM
Shocking! I cannot believe you posted this. I thought your dislike for Obama was so intense that nothing could surpass it. I guess the passage of time changes everything.


Relax Jay III, people in 194 countries a  ;D :D ;D @ yours senile president !.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Les Grossman on September 08, 2021, 03:22:51 PM
Shocking! I cannot believe you posted this. I thought your dislike for Obama was so intense that nothing could surpass it. I guess the passage of time changes everything.

JoeJill Biden
Barry Obama
Jimmy Carter

Worst Presidents of all-time.

All Democrats.

All completely incompetent.

All supported by absolute retards.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 08, 2021, 03:30:14 PM
JoeJill Biden
Barry Obama
Jimmy Carter

Worst Presidents of all-time.

All Democrats.

All completely incompetent.

All supported by absolute retards.

but he love icecream  ;)
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 09, 2021, 11:41:06 AM
We often talk about the death casualties, but not nearly enough about the wounded casualties.  God Bless them all.

15 Marines wounded in Afghanistan are being treated at Walter Reed
By Philip Athey
Wednesday, Sep 1
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2021/09/01/15-marines-wounded-in-afghanistan-are-being-treated-at-walter-reed-national-military-medical-center/?utm_campaign=Socialflow+ARM&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2aoSsdRkFRKLNaSzV8aYU7dGvTqzSU15CiRr1Zka5IFUcMM0QzvOoOEmM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 11, 2021, 07:51:58 AM
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Another Biden **ck-Up:US drone strike that Pentagon said killed Kabul suicide bomber actually 'killed aid worker and seven children who ran to greet him when he arrived home’
Daily Mail ^ | 10 September 2021 | Keith Griffith
Posted on 9/11/2021, 7:46:38 AM by Apparatchik

The drone strike that the Pentagon claimed killed an ISIS-K suicide bomber in Kabul actually targeted an aid worker who had filled his car with water jugs, rather than explosives, according to a shocking new report.

Zemari Ahmadi, 43, was driving the 1996 Toyota Corolla that was destroyed in the August 29 drone strike, killing him and nine family members, including seven children, according to a New York Times investigation.

The Pentagon still maintains that only three civilians died, despite the family now detailing in the new report how their 10 relatives were killed in the blast.

Days after the attack, President Joe Biden gave a speech in which he marked the withdrawal of American troops in Afghanistan by the August 31 deadline. He touted America's ability to strike terrorists and targets without boots on the ground. But he failed to mention the high civilian casualty rate from the August 29 drone strike, and he failed to mention that children had been killed.

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Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 21, 2021, 07:19:02 PM
He's not wrong that the media has turned the page.   :-\

Biden Claims U.S. Has ‘Turned The Page’ On Afghanistan In U.N. Speech, Even As Americans Remain Stranded
By  Emily Zanotti
Sep 21, 2021   DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-claims-u-s-has-turned-the-page-on-afghanistan-in-u-n-speech-even-as-americans-remain-stranded
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 21, 2021, 08:50:35 PM
Listen to her read these legalese notes like this is nothing.

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 22, 2021, 05:54:53 AM
Mark Milley's Perception Warfare Deserves a Leavenworth Long Course
Townhall.com ^ | September 22, 2021 | Austin Bay
Posted on 9/22/2021, 8:29:56 AM by Kaslin

Beltway raconteur Bob Woodward has a track record for sensationalizing gossip in order to create buzz and sell books.

In American high schools and the Washington Beltway -- is there a difference? -- "buzz" is a term for manipulating emotional and social responses to achieve a goal. Woodward? He wants to sell books and demonstrate he matters, years after Watergate made him a Washington Post legend.

In the case of high school, the buzz creators are usually Mean Girls decapitating Nice Girl rivals or punishing boys and girls who ignore or abhor Mean Girl deceits, scams and deceptions.

Washington? Hey, in the Beltway, Mean Girl is an asexual term for a power-mad, self-serving politician practicing perception warfare, no matter the on-the-ground reality (Afghanistan; Haitians under a Del Rio bridge), no matter the cost to American taxpayers, no matter the damage to American national security.

Woodward and co-author Robert Costa have a new book out named "Peril." According to their buzz, the authors claim that shortly after the Jan. 6 Washington semi-riot, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley was so deeply concerned by President Donald Trump's behavior he decided he simply had to -- absolutely had to -- take personal action outside the chain of command in order to prevent an out-of-control Trump from starting a nuclear war or whatever against Communist China.

Since Woodward and Costa's publicists started buzzing, Milley has acknowledged something happened.

The something: One of Milley's public affairs officers, Col. David Butler, said that Milley's "calls with the Chinese and others in October and January were in keeping with (his) duties and responsibilities conveying reassurance in order to maintain strategic stability."

Col. Butler's something sounds like a concession, though note he employs bureaucratic rhetorical camouflage -- a classic perception warfare technique. Still, Butler admits Milley spoke with senior Chinese military officers. Missing in action: the subject Milley addressed was potential U.S. military action against the nation that is America's most potent adversary. More missing facts: Milley spoke to the Chinese officers without approval from Trump. Reflect for a moment and it sounds like Milley acted on his own self-serving Hollywood script, not on evidence Trump was preparing to start a war.

The Beltway is a vicious high school of a sort, but unfortunately its viciousness isn't Mean Girls wrestling with fantasy crises. In Milley's case, we're confronting the abrogation of the constitutional order of the military under civilian control and ultimately the U.S. military's duty to defend America regardless of the party or personality of the president.

Fact for Milley: Senior Chinese military officers are members of the Chinese Communist Party. Tiananmen Square. Hong Kong absorption. Uighur genocide. The Chinese military is a Party tool, Mark, a violent tool.

Milley's short-sighted and, I argue, savvily self-serving action weakened U.S. national security and put the U.S. constitutional system at risk.

Milley's actions are another example of the destructive perception warfare waged against the American people by powerful Beltway elites -- and the worst examples of this war are perpetrated by power elites in the Democratic Party, to include resident Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton.

It's a benevolent coincidence that last week Special Counsel John Durham indicted former Hillary Clinton campaign paid lawyer Michael Sussman. The Clinton campaign's Russia collusion lie compromised and ultimately sacrificed the FBI's counterintelligence security function and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court's credibility to Hillary's personal political goals. Her goals superseded American security. Hillary's collusion crock was hatched to distract from her criminal abuse of classified information. The payoff for some of the actors? According to Durham's indictment, positions in her administration. For the New York Times and Washington Post? Media Pulitzers for pushing a total lie.

Mark Milley violated constitutional order and subverted the chain of command. Why? His goal doesn't matter, but here's my guess: to secure the largesse of Biden and the Beltway media.

Try Milley by court martial, convict and sentence him to Fort Leavenworth's Long Course. At Leavenworth, he can discuss perception warfare with his sledge while he whacks a rock.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 22, 2021, 06:22:57 AM
CDC: Unvaccinated Afghans Bringing in Measles, Other Diseases. Agency Tells Doctors to Watch for Polio
New American ^ | 9/21/2021 | R. Cort Kirkwood
Posted on 9/22/2021, 8:51:40

The Centers for Disease Control warned that doctors must prepare for a wave of mumps, measles, leishmaniasis, and worse still, polio. Already, 20 people arriving from Afghanistan have been diagnosed with mumps or measles.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenewamerican.com ...
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 27, 2021, 07:48:50 PM
The media has already turned the corner on Americans left behind enemy lines.

Afghanistan Rescue Worker: ‘Definitely’ More Americans Left Than Biden Claims, ‘I’m Appalled’
By  Tim Pearce
Sep 27, 2021   DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/afghanistan-rescue-worker-definitely-more-americans-left-than-biden-claims-im-appalled
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 28, 2021, 05:38:46 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/asia/100000007980891/kabul-drone-strike-house.html?action=click&gtype=vhs&version=vhs-heading&module=vhs&region=title-area&cview=true&t=3

Disastrous! 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Princess L on September 28, 2021, 06:09:54 AM
Shocking! I cannot believe you posted this. I thought your dislike for Obama was so intense that nothing could surpass it. I guess the passage of time changes everything.

TDS FAR SURPASSES any level of hate for Obummer.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Grape Ape on September 28, 2021, 06:15:11 AM
TDS FAR SURPASSES any level of hate for Obummer.

TDS infected everything.

You had people who never followed politics hanging on every word, believing every false story, and losing friends in real life.

Media would rush to everything, put out half truths or blatant lies, big tech would censor without any valid reason.

They would do anything to get Trump out of office and thought that would make everything OK.

It was an odd time.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 28, 2021, 06:18:49 AM
TDS infected everything.

You had people who never followed politics hanging on every word, believing every false story, and losing friends in real life.

Media would rush to everything, put out half truths or blatant lies, big tech would censor without any valid reason.

They would do anything to get Trump out of office and thought that would make everything OK.

It was an odd time.

It still is.   These same TDS infect fruitcakes still believe provably false lies and nonsense.   
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Princess L on September 28, 2021, 06:20:17 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/asia/100000007980891/kabul-drone-strike-house.html?action=click&gtype=vhs&version=vhs-heading&module=vhs&region=title-area&cview=true&t=3

Disastrous!

That was no mistake.  They KNEW EXACTLY what they were doing and just wanted to create a quick lie - "We got an ISIS k" knowing full well it was a lie and they could say later "it was a mistake".  Fvckn Barbarians.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Grape Ape on September 28, 2021, 06:40:36 AM
It still is.   These same TDS infect fruitcakes still believe provably false lies and nonsense.

The media made these things "facts".

Take "very fine people".....It was debunked within hours, the transcripts were there, it was obvious he meant the statue debate and specifically condemned white supremacy.

Yet, it was tweeted as fact for years, hollywood idiots, media etc...

Then, Biden kicked off his campaign with it in a tweet.

Then, Wallace brought it up in the debate......

And it hasn't stopped.

And it was a massive Trump mistake at the debate....he could have ended it, but just said "read the transcript".  The problem was, anyone who got their news from mainstream media and cable, never heard of the transcript.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Straw Man on September 28, 2021, 01:19:50 PM
Why didn't Trumptard get all of our citizens out BEFORE he agreed to withdraw our troops

Also, Why did Trumptard agree to let 5000 Taliban out of prison last year ...again before getting our citizens and allies out

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf

Trump said Biden couldn't stop the agreement the he signed in 2020

Are Trumptards now saying that Trump is lying in this clip?

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 28, 2021, 01:26:31 PM



Doesn't work BoB , BIDEN & FATSO general fucked up !.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Straw Man on September 28, 2021, 01:34:20 PM


Doesn't work BoB , BIDEN & FATSO general fucked up !.

Get back to picking your mangos
You've got a quota to fill

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 28, 2021, 01:44:53 PM
Get back to picking your mangos
You've got a quota to fill




Yeah right, it's too price fruit for your pockets   :'(

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 28, 2021, 07:41:12 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/28/watch-live-pentagon-leaders-testify-on-afghanistan-withdrawal/
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 28, 2021, 11:28:16 PM
‘Biden Lied’: President Blasted After Top Generals Directly Contradict What Biden Said About Afghanistan
By  Daily Wire News
Sep 28, 2021   DailyWire.com

President Joe Biden faced backlash on Tuesday after top U.S. military leaders, testifying in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee, directly contradicted what Biden told the American public during an interview over the summer amidst the U.S.’s withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley, and head of U.S. Central Command Gen. Kenneth McKenzie gave their testimonies under oath in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee over Biden’s chaotic pullout from Afghanistan last month.

Biden faced widespread criticism, comparing his prior remarks, made during an interview back in August with ABC News host George Stephanopoulos, with statements the generals gave today — statements which appeared to directly contradict what Biden said.

Numerous top Republicans online wrote that “Biden lied.”

Biden had the following exchange with Stephanopoulos on August 19th:

STEPHANOPOULOS: So no one told — your military advisors did not tell you, ‘No, we should just keep 2,500 troops. It’s been a stable situation for the last several years. We can do that. We can continue to do that’?

BIDEN: No. No one said that to me that I can recall. Look, George, the reason why it’s been stable for a year is because the last president said, ‘We’re leaving. And here’s the deal I wanna make with you, Taliban. We’re agreeing to leave if you agree not to attack us between now and the time we leave on May the 1st.’

WATCH:

McKenzie said that the recommendation that he gave to Biden was “shaped” by his honest opinion of the situation in Afghanistan, which was that the U.S. needed to “maintain 2,500 troops in Afghanistan” and that pulling out those forces would “lead inevitably to the collapse of the Afghan military forces and eventually the Afghan government.”

Milley later said that he agreed with that assessment.

Milley and McKenzie made the remarks during the following exchange with Senator Jim Inhofe (R-OK):

INHOFE: But I’d ask General McKenzie, did you agree to the recommendation that General Miller had two weeks ago?

MCKENZIE: Senator, again, I won’t I won’t share my personal recommendation to the President. But I will give you my honest opinion. And my honest opinion and view shaped my recommendation. I recommended that we maintain 2,500 troops in Afghanistan. And I also recommended earlier in the fall of 2020, that we maintain 4,500 at that time, those are my personal views. I also have a view that the withdrawal of those forces would lead inevitably to the collapse of the Afghan military forces and eventually the Afghan government.

INHOFE: Yes, I understand that. And General Milley, I assume you agree with that in terms of the recommendation of 2,500.

MILLEY: What I said in my opening statement, and the memoranda that I wrote back in the fall of 2020, remained consistent. And I do agree with that.

INHOFE: This committee is unsure as to whether or not general Miller’s recommendation ever got to the President. You know, obviously, they’re conversations with the President. But I would like to ask even though, General McKenzie, I think you’ve all made the statement. Did you talk to the President about general Miller’s recommendation?

MCKENZIE: Sir, I was present when that discussion occurred. And I’m confident that the President heard all the recommendations and listened to him very thoughtfully.

Inhofe’s question about Gen. Austin Miller, the Commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan from 2018 through July of this year, is in reference to reports that Miller “strongly dissented with the intel assessment that Afghanistan would fall to the Taliban between 1-3 years, saying he thought it would go much, much faster.”

Miller also reportedly told Congress in a classified briefing that the U.S. needed to maintain 2,500 troops on the ground in Afghanistan.

Austin later said that Biden heard “this input.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-lied-president-blasted-after-top-generals-directly-contradict-what-biden-said-about-afghanistan
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on September 28, 2021, 11:46:32 PM
 CNN?  :o

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 29, 2021, 02:40:13 AM


Why didn't Trumptard get all of our citizens out BEFORE he agreed to withdraw our troops




WHY YOU didn't join the army & as a RAMBO save all those trapped in Afganistan !.

You are all blah-blah-blah-blah ........................ .....................& nothing else !.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 01, 2021, 05:10:07 AM
Between Afghanistan and Immigration, Have We Ever Had a Less Competent President?
Townhall.com ^ | October 1, 2021 | Neil Patel


There's always press coverage about Republican mismanagement or Republicans getting into trouble governing as ideologues, but you don't hear much about the reverse. There's a lot to critique about Republicans, but for mismanagement and for blindly putting ideology above all else, resident Joe Biden may be the all-time champ.

Biden campaigned as a pragmatist who could bring stability and national unification. His inaugural address was all about these themes. America needs some level of national healing more than anything else. Americans can't go on at each other's throats. The country is falling apart.

Biden deserved praise for starting his presidency with a message of healing. I did an entire column to compliment him for it.

Since taking office, however, Biden has not made any effort to back up his pledge. He has governed not just as a wild-eyed ideologue but as an incompetent one, too. America is paying the price. If any Republican president tried to implement such an extremist agenda, the press would hammer it daily. The press likes Biden's left-wing policies, so they downplay the radical nature of what we are going through and cover the incompetence with a light touch, if at all.

On Afghanistan, pretty much all of America wanted out. What most Americans wanted, though, was a safe exit that considered America's long-term security needs. Biden's agenda was driven by the desire to have everything finished by the 20-year anniversary of 9/11. It's hard to imagine that symbolism drove the entire agenda for such an important matter, but looking at the facts, that's all you can conclude. Biden risked countless American lives and harmed long-term security, essentially for a photo op.

There's always press coverage about Republican mismanagement or Republicans getting into trouble governing as ideologues, but you don't hear much about the reverse. There's a lot to critique about Republicans, but for mismanagement and for blindly putting ideology above all else, resident Joe Biden may be the all-time champ.

Biden campaigned as a pragmatist who could bring stability and national unification. His inaugural address was all about these themes. America needs some level of national healing more than anything else. Americans can't go on at each other's throats. The country is falling apart.

Biden deserved praise for starting his presidency with a message of healing. I did an entire column to compliment him for it.

Since taking office, however, Biden has not made any effort to back up his pledge. He has governed not just as a wild-eyed ideologue but as an incompetent one, too. America is paying the price. If any Republican president tried to implement such an extremist agenda, the press would hammer it daily. The press likes Biden's left-wing policies, so they downplay the radical nature of what we are going through and cover the incompetence with a light touch, if at all.

On Afghanistan, pretty much all of America wanted out. What most Americans wanted, though, was a safe exit that considered America's long-term security needs. Biden's agenda was driven by the desire to have everything finished by the 20-year anniversary of 9/11. It's hard to imagine that symbolism drove the entire agenda for such an important matter, but looking at the facts, that's all you can conclude. Biden risked countless American lives and harmed long-term security, essentially for a photo op.

Trump responded to this crisis with a few policies that worked. Most prominent is the "Remain in Mexico" program, launched in January 2019, which required that asylum-seekers wait in Mexico for the entire duration of their immigration court proceedings. This policy eliminated the possibility of "catch and release," where migrants are able to escape into the interior of our country after claiming asylum. After implementing "Remain in Mexico" and a few other innovative policies, border enforcement operations dropped over 70% from their peak of 144,000 in May 2019. It wasn't perfect, but some form of order was restored at our southern border.

Biden came in and rescinded all these Trump policies. He did so on purely ideological grounds. That's his right as president, but he did it with no plan in place of his own. The results have been a complete mess. After dropping to a low of 17,000 monthly encounters under Trump, Border Patrol is back up to a record 200,000-plus border encounters per month under Biden.

To be clear, the U.S. government has no idea how many people are successfully crossing the border. That number has to be in the millions. The government only knows for sure how many people their agents deal with per month.

At the levels today, it's fair to say that the United States effectively has an open southern border. This means it's open season for gangs, terrorists and drug dealers to cross almost at will. The deadly fentanyl pouring into America is just one side effect of this insanity. Another side effect is average Americans are now more anti-immigrant than ever before. There are thousands of immigrants with amazing skills who want to come here. They can't. The legal immigration system is broken. Skilled immigrants can only come if indentured to an American company, and even then, our system is so difficult that many choose Canada or other places who vie for their skills. There is no appetite in America to fix this broken system because the insane border policies have driven many Americans to just want to say no to all of it.

It's not clear if Biden is too out of it to manage America effectively or if his staff is too ideological to make sound decisions or both. What is clear is America is suffering through amazing levels of self-inflicted crises on Joe Biden's watch.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on October 04, 2021, 10:44:26 AM
Exclusive — Rep. Markwayne Mullin: 2- and 3-Year-Old Americans Died in Afghanistan Due to Biden’s Failed Withdrawal
HANNAH BLEAU
2 Oct 2021
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/10/02/exclusive-markwayne-mullin-2-and-3-year-old-americans-died-in-afghanistan-due-to-bidens-failed-withdrawal/?fbclid=IwAR1X4OIMB3DMvusxdqfx5ml9xILdZTs3BrftO5B8D8pIUGh4CdlMfeeCk6g
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on October 05, 2021, 03:01:58 PM
Klein: Generals Contradicting Biden “Devastating...Feed[s ] A Narrative Of A Lack Of Credibility”
Oct 3, 2021

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2021, 05:37:44 AM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on October 06, 2021, 11:03:21 AM
This is criminal.   >:(

Nearly 50 Sacramento-area students remain trapped in Afghanistan. When will they be rescued?
BY SAWSAN MORRAR AND JASON POHL
UPDATED SEPTEMBER 26, 2021

Sacramento-area school districts are still identifying more students stranded in Afghanistan under Taliban rule, weeks after the U.S. completed its withdrawal from the country.

San Juan Unified School District officials last week said 41 students were trapped in Afghanistan — a sharp increase from the two-dozen-or-so the district had previously identified. Of the 41 kids, three were evacuated over the weekend from the war-torn country but remain overseas, district officials said.

Sacramento City Unified officials last week said eight students are stranded in Afghanistan. Initially, they’d identified just one family who The Sacramento Bee interviewed. Attendance records as the school year has progressed showed more students were missing, and staff traced their whereabouts to the country.

Principal Nate McGill of Ethel I. Baker Elementary school has been involved in getting the students out. He texts with family members and has been coordinating staff members who are trying to cobble together a plan.

But, he said, progress has been slow. Sometimes it feels nonexistent.

There were two options on the table at the start of last week. The first involved paying about $2,500 to get the family a flight from Kabul to Islamabad, across the border in Pakistan. That fell through because the family didn’t qualify for visas into that country at the time, McGill said.

Then, later in the week, another option was under discussion. A person from a third-party group that has connections to the country read The Bee’s reporting. Reporters put them in touch with McGill. The group has since been in contact with the family and is working to get them out. If they can get across the border, McGill said he and a handful of others from the Sacramento area will pay for the flight to get them back to the U.S.

“This is like a back-up, sort of secret-ops plan,” McGill said.

It’s unclear if that plan is still on the table or when they might be given a green light.

In the chaotic month since the Taliban stormed into Kabul, uncertainty has increased by the day, both for Sacramento families who remain in Afghanistan and those on the ground here trying to get them out. Some families were turned away from evacuation flights, and others were near the blast at the Kabul airport, where Sacramento-area students witnessed violence, gunfire and bombings that killed scores of people, according to Sacramento City Unified officials.

. . .

Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article254412638.html#storylink=cpy
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2021, 11:06:00 AM
Maybe Hunter can sell some 500k artwork to fund a rescue mission? 

This is criminal.   >:(

Nearly 50 Sacramento-area students remain trapped in Afghanistan. When will they be rescued?
BY SAWSAN MORRAR AND JASON POHL
UPDATED SEPTEMBER 26, 2021

Sacramento-area school districts are still identifying more students stranded in Afghanistan under Taliban rule, weeks after the U.S. completed its withdrawal from the country.

San Juan Unified School District officials last week said 41 students were trapped in Afghanistan — a sharp increase from the two-dozen-or-so the district had previously identified. Of the 41 kids, three were evacuated over the weekend from the war-torn country but remain overseas, district officials said.

Sacramento City Unified officials last week said eight students are stranded in Afghanistan. Initially, they’d identified just one family who The Sacramento Bee interviewed. Attendance records as the school year has progressed showed more students were missing, and staff traced their whereabouts to the country.

Principal Nate McGill of Ethel I. Baker Elementary school has been involved in getting the students out. He texts with family members and has been coordinating staff members who are trying to cobble together a plan.

But, he said, progress has been slow. Sometimes it feels nonexistent.

There were two options on the table at the start of last week. The first involved paying about $2,500 to get the family a flight from Kabul to Islamabad, across the border in Pakistan. That fell through because the family didn’t qualify for visas into that country at the time, McGill said.

Then, later in the week, another option was under discussion. A person from a third-party group that has connections to the country read The Bee’s reporting. Reporters put them in touch with McGill. The group has since been in contact with the family and is working to get them out. If they can get across the border, McGill said he and a handful of others from the Sacramento area will pay for the flight to get them back to the U.S.

“This is like a back-up, sort of secret-ops plan,” McGill said.

It’s unclear if that plan is still on the table or when they might be given a green light.

In the chaotic month since the Taliban stormed into Kabul, uncertainty has increased by the day, both for Sacramento families who remain in Afghanistan and those on the ground here trying to get them out. Some families were turned away from evacuation flights, and others were near the blast at the Kabul airport, where Sacramento-area students witnessed violence, gunfire and bombings that killed scores of people, according to Sacramento City Unified officials.

. . .

Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article254412638.html#storylink=cpy
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on October 18, 2021, 11:53:29 AM
 >:(

Silent disgrace: Where is the national media on abandoned Americans?
ED MORRISSEY Oct 18, 2021
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2021/10/18/silent-disgrace-where-is-the-national-media-on-abandoned-americans-n423134
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 18, 2021, 12:07:07 PM
Where is the media on the whole thing being a fraud, a fake government propped up by American money that immediately collapsed once we pulled out?
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: TheGrinch on October 18, 2021, 12:28:09 PM
Where is the media on the whole thing being a fraud, a fake government propped up by American money that immediately collapsed once we pulled out?


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Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on October 18, 2021, 12:35:33 PM

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Exactly.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Skeletor on October 23, 2021, 06:39:07 PM
The Biden Admin Said It Left 100 Americans in Afghanistan. They Now Admit It’s Far More.

The Biden administration is in touch with nearly 400 Americans who are stranded in Afghanistan, a figure that far exceeds the administration's claims that about 100 Americans were left in the nation following the United States' hurried exit from Kabul, according to a senior congressional source who was briefed Thursday by the State Department.

With Afghanistan in the administration's rear-view mirror, U.S. officials are providing exact figures on the number of Americans who are still stranded and want to leave—although they are doing so in private, off-the-record forums—according to two senior congressional aides, who relayed the contents of the non-public call to the Washington Free Beacon.

The United States is in touch with 363 Americans who are stuck in war-torn Afghanistan and around 176 U.S. permanent residents who are asking to be evacuated immediately, Biden administration officials said on the call with congressional staff, according to the source, who requested anonymity to discuss non-public information. These figures demonstrate that senior Biden administration officials routinely misrepresented the number of stranded Americans to the public and Congress for nearly two months.

The State Department further claims to have airlifted 218 U.S. citizens and 131 long-term permanent residents out of Afghanistan since Aug. 31, when senior Biden administration officials, including Secretary of State Antony Blinken and White House press secretary Jen Psaki, were publicly claiming that "around 100" Americans were still stuck in the nation. Psaki, for instance, said last month that only "a handful of American citizens" were trying to leave Afghanistan after the United States pulled its forces. The figures presented in Thursday’s briefing indicate the administration was citing the "around 100" talking point while privately being aware of nearly 600 Americans still inside Afghanistan.

The information presented in the call stunned participants and fueled accusations that the Biden administration lied about the dire situation in order to avoid public scrutiny of its rushed evacuation from Afghanistan that was widely seen as disastrous and ill-prepared.

https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/the-biden-admin-said-it-left-100-americans-in-afghanistan-they-now-admit-its-far-more/
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 24, 2021, 02:58:28 AM
Let’s Go Brandon !
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on October 25, 2021, 01:17:01 PM
State Dept: We know of 363 American citizens still abandoned in Afghanistan
ED MORRISSEY Oct 22, 2021
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2021/10/22/state-dept-we-know-of-363-american-citizens-still-abandoned-in-afghanistan-n424172
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: ThisisOverload on October 26, 2021, 01:50:26 PM
This is criminal.   >:(

Nearly 50 Sacramento-area students remain trapped in Afghanistan. When will they be rescued?
BY SAWSAN MORRAR AND JASON POHL
UPDATED SEPTEMBER 26, 2021

Sacramento-area school districts are still identifying more students stranded in Afghanistan under Taliban rule, weeks after the U.S. completed its withdrawal from the country.

San Juan Unified School District officials last week said 41 students were trapped in Afghanistan — a sharp increase from the two-dozen-or-so the district had previously identified. Of the 41 kids, three were evacuated over the weekend from the war-torn country but remain overseas, district officials said.

Sacramento City Unified officials last week said eight students are stranded in Afghanistan. Initially, they’d identified just one family who The Sacramento Bee interviewed. Attendance records as the school year has progressed showed more students were missing, and staff traced their whereabouts to the country.

Principal Nate McGill of Ethel I. Baker Elementary school has been involved in getting the students out. He texts with family members and has been coordinating staff members who are trying to cobble together a plan.

But, he said, progress has been slow. Sometimes it feels nonexistent.

There were two options on the table at the start of last week. The first involved paying about $2,500 to get the family a flight from Kabul to Islamabad, across the border in Pakistan. That fell through because the family didn’t qualify for visas into that country at the time, McGill said.

Then, later in the week, another option was under discussion. A person from a third-party group that has connections to the country read The Bee’s reporting. Reporters put them in touch with McGill. The group has since been in contact with the family and is working to get them out. If they can get across the border, McGill said he and a handful of others from the Sacramento area will pay for the flight to get them back to the U.S.

“This is like a back-up, sort of secret-ops plan,” McGill said.

It’s unclear if that plan is still on the table or when they might be given a green light.

In the chaotic month since the Taliban stormed into Kabul, uncertainty has increased by the day, both for Sacramento families who remain in Afghanistan and those on the ground here trying to get them out. Some families were turned away from evacuation flights, and others were near the blast at the Kabul airport, where Sacramento-area students witnessed violence, gunfire and bombings that killed scores of people, according to Sacramento City Unified officials.

. . .

Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article254412638.html#storylink=cpy

Why the hell are Elementary students in Afghanistan to begin with?

How are people that stupid to allow their kids to go to one of the most dangerous places on the planet?

Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on October 27, 2021, 09:45:09 AM
Pentagon confirms nearly 450 Americans trapped in Afghanistan
The number is higher than what the State Department had said last week
By Ronn Blitzer | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-number-americans-trapped-in-afghanistan
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 02, 2021, 12:15:25 PM
Islamic State Attack on Kabul Military Hospital Kills at Least 23
WSJ ^ | Nov. 2, 2021 2:28 pm ET | By Yaroslav Trofimov
Posted on 11/2/2021, 3:11:06 PM by BenLurkin

Islamic State militants stormed Afghanistan’s main military hospital, now housing injured Taliban fighters and veterans of the former Afghan military, and killed at least 23 people in the latest eruption of violence since the country’s U.S.-backed government collapsed in mid-August.

Though there was no immediate claim of responsibility, the Taliban’s chief spokesman, Zabiullah Mujahid, said that five Islamic State militants participated in Tuesday’s complex attack and were all killed. The extremist group has intensified the tempo of strikes against Taliban targets and the country’s Shiite minority in recent weeks. It stormed the same hospital, in Kabul’s Wazir Akbar Khan neighborhood, in 2017.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 02, 2021, 01:19:35 PM
'This is your bride...please don't beat her': Heart-breaking moment Afghan father pleads with 55-year-old man as he is forced to sell his daughter, aged NINE, to him so he can buy food
The Daily Mail ^ | 2 November 2021 | Rachel Bunyan
Posted on 11/2/2021, 1:55:39 PM by Tired of Taxes

An Afghan father who has been forced to sell his nine-year-old daughter to a 55-year-old man as a child bride so he can buy food has pleaded for his child's new husband not to beat her.

Parwana Malik, nine, is being sold by her parents to a stranger who the youngster describes as an 'old man' due to his white beard and eyebrows.

On the day Parwana was taken away by her 55-year-old buyer, Qorban, her weeping father, Abdul Malik, pleaded for him to not hurt his child, reports CNN.

Abdul, who is 'broken' with guilt, broke down in tears as he told Qorban: 'This is your bride. Please take care of her. You are responsible now, please don't beat her.'

Parwana's family said they had no choice, and are among scores of destitute families who being forced to sell their young daughters into marriage to survive, as Afghanistan plunges further into a humanitarian crisis.

One girl, aged 10, spends her days crying as she waits for the day she is sold to a 70-year-old man to help her family pay off their debts.

Another nine-member family is preparing to sell their four-year-old and nine-year-old daughters to have enough money for food.

Parwana and her family have been living in an Afghan displacement camp in northwestern Badghis province for the past four years. They have survived on humanitarian aid and work which earns them around £2 a day.

But since the Taliban took over Afghanistan in August, the country's economy is on the brink of collapse and international humanitarian aid has been put on hold - and the effects are deeply felt by families such as Parwana's who cannot buy basic goods such as food.

Abdul was forced to sell Parwana's 12-year-old sister months ago to help his family survive.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Skeletor on November 03, 2021, 09:52:10 PM
Of course...

Deadly US drone strike in Kabul did not break law, Pentagon says

A US drone strike that killed 10 Afghan civilians was an error that did not violate any laws, a Pentagon inspector said following an investigation.

"It was an honest mistake," US Air Force Inspector Lieutenant General Sami Said told reporters.

The strike on 29 August killed three adults, including a man who worked for a US aid group, and seven children.

It took place as Western nations attempted to evacuate Afghans after the Taliban took control of the country.

The youngest child to be killed was two-year-old Sumaya, and the eldest 12-year-old Farzad, the family told the BBC.

Speaking shortly afterwards Ramin Yousufi, a relative, said it had been a "brutal attack" based on "wrong information".

"Why have they killed our family? Our children? They are so burned out we cannot identify their bodies, their faces," he said.

Lt Gen Said said there had been "execution errors, combined with confirmation bias and communications breakdowns" that led to "regrettable civilian casualties".

But he said an investigation had found "no violation of law, including the Law of War".

"It's not criminal conduct, random conduct, negligence," he added.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59157089
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: AbrahamG on November 05, 2021, 09:44:33 PM
Why the hell are Elementary students in Afghanistan to begin with?

How are people that stupid to allow their kids to go to one of the most dangerous places on the planet?

Great question.  Because evangelicals in far too many cases are arrogant beyond words.  I feel for the children but fuck them all. 

Religion:  At best is a crutch.  At worst is a mental illness. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 06, 2021, 09:09:54 AM


Religion:  At best is a crutch.  At worst is a mental illness.

Damn you on a roll.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: TheGrinch on November 06, 2021, 09:48:10 AM
wooooooooooshhhhhhhhhhhh



Flying my flag with pride!!!

L
G
B
T
Q



 Forget "Let's Go Brandon" and "FJB", get your "Let's Get Biden To Quit!" (LGBTQ) flag now and fly it with pride!
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on November 08, 2021, 06:03:49 PM
Flashback-Biden: If ‘You Leave Those Billions of Dollars of Weapons Behind’ in Iraq, They’ll ‘Be Used Against Your Grandchild’
 By Craig Bannister | November 8, 2021
https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/flashback-biden-if-you-leave-those-billions-dollars-weapons-behind-iraq-theyll
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on November 09, 2021, 11:26:48 AM
Pentagon Admits Biden Left Dozens Of Family Members Of U.S. Troops In Afghanistan
By  Hank Berrien
Nov 9, 2021   DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/pentagon-admits-biden-left-dozens-of-family-members-of-u-s-troops-in-afghanistan
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: ThisisOverload on November 10, 2021, 03:43:20 PM
Great question.  Because evangelicals in far too many cases are arrogant beyond words.  I feel for the children but fuck them all. 

Religion:  At best is a crutch.  At worst is a mental illness.

Agree 100 %!
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on November 12, 2021, 06:10:32 PM
Great question.  Because evangelicals in far too many cases are arrogant beyond words.  I feel for the children but fuck them all. 

Religion:  At best is a crutch.  At worst is a mental illness.

Uh, no.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on November 12, 2021, 06:11:18 PM
I'll believe it when they are all home.

Every US citizen who wants out of Afghanistan offered departure, State Department says
CONOR FINNEGAN and LIBBY CATHEY
Fri, November 12, 2021
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/every-us-citizen-wants-afghanistan-100105823.html
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2021, 07:42:47 AM
https://news.trust.org/item/20211123035757-ylrch


What a FNG mess!
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: AbrahamG on November 24, 2021, 11:30:33 PM
Uh, no.

What's the difference between The Night Before Christmas and The Bible? 

NOTHING!
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2021, 11:18:52 AM
What's the difference between The Night Before Christmas and The Bible? 

NOTHING!

One is a movie and the other is the most read book in world history? 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2021, 01:00:26 PM
http://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/13/us-will-not-punish-military-over-afghanistan-drone-killing-of-civilians.html


No kidding - more lies and cover up from Biden. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Gym-Rat on August 23, 2022, 12:05:01 PM
BREAKING REPORT: US Team of Veterans led by Chad Robichaux purportedly RESCUED 17,000 LEGAL PERMANENT UNITED STATES RESIDENTS in Afghanistan After Joe Biden Abandoned Them Following Surrender to Taliban..

17,000...


(Yet brings in cartel, rapists, traffickers and hides them around the USA)...
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2023, 12:53:51 PM
So President Biden, the man directly responsible for the deaths of American service members, is trying to blame former President Trump. 

Biden Report Blames Trump for Afghanistan Withdrawal Chaos
Thursday, 06 April 2023
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/afghanistan-withdrawal-biden-trump/2023/04/06/id/1115310/
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 06, 2023, 12:56:05 PM
So President Biden, the man directly responsible for the deaths of American service members, is trying to blame former President Trump. 

Biden Report Blames Trump for Afghanistan Withdrawal Chaos
Thursday, 06 April 2023
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/afghanistan-withdrawal-biden-trump/2023/04/06/id/1115310/
::)
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Skeletor on April 06, 2023, 01:34:47 PM
So President Biden, the man directly responsible for the deaths of American service members, is trying to blame former President Trump. 

Biden Report Blames Trump for Afghanistan Withdrawal Chaos
Thursday, 06 April 2023
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/afghanistan-withdrawal-biden-trump/2023/04/06/id/1115310/

Has Biden taken responsibility for anything that happened during his term? As usual, career politicians like him are quick to blame others for failures and even quicker to take credit for any success.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E88cxekX0AAXCko.jpg)

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Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Curelato on April 06, 2023, 02:55:04 PM
Biden gets some blame because he was POTUS during the withdrawal but Trump and Pompeo cut a deal with the Taliban (and only the Taliban) which undermined the authority of the Afghan government

Trump himself said that Biden couldn't stop the deal he made

eature=share


John Bolton (who we know is a hard right winger and no fan of Biden) even attempted to explain this verifiable facts to Newsmax



Here's a detailed review by the right leaning Hoover Institute

Quote
This essay examines how the poorly negotiated US-Taliban agreement undermined the Afghan government and institutions and facilitated the Taliban’s rise to power in August 2021. The rush to conclude a deal with the Taliban undermined US counterterrorism interests and emboldened hard-liners within the Taliban movement. The United States must recommit to human rights and counterterrorism in Afghanistan and avoid rewarding the Taliban with diplomatic recognition until they have earned it.

https://www.hoover.org/research/how-doha-agreement-guaranteed-us-failure-afghanistan
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: AbrahamG on April 06, 2023, 03:59:11 PM
Biden gets some blame because he was POTUS during the withdrawal but Trump and Pompeo cut a deal with the Taliban (and only the Taliban) which undermined the authority of the Afghan government

Trump himself said that Biden couldn't stop the deal he made

eature=share


John Bolton (who we know is a hard right winger and no fan of Biden) even attempted to explain this verifiable facts to Newsmax



Here's a detailed review by the right leaning Hoover Institute

https://www.hoover.org/research/how-doha-agreement-guaranteed-us-failure-afghanistan

I like the cut of your jib.  No homo.  You are going to make friends fast around here.   ;D
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2023, 05:16:18 PM
I like the cut of your jib.  No homo.  You are going to make friends fast around here.   ;D

No she won't.   :)
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 08, 2023, 01:01:52 PM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 08, 2023, 01:38:40 PM
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 08, 2023, 01:39:43 PM


He has a great show 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 08, 2023, 01:52:10 PM


Joe Biden's legacy.
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 08, 2023, 02:29:26 PM
Joe Biden's legacy.


Biden only ended one war so that he could start another.   
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Dos Equis on August 08, 2023, 02:46:41 PM

Biden only ended one war so that he could start another.

And got people killed in the process. 
Title: Re: Biden’s Afghan exit strategy as driven by ‘ weakness, incompetence’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 08, 2023, 05:58:32 PM
And here we are on the brink of WWIII.