I see this thread got a little out of hand!
I can also see why Stark made the mistake because he asked Flower first and then knny deleted it, but i think everybody made his or her point so there's no need to argue any more about it.
The rules are clear now for everybody to read so before posting anything against them think twice or he/she will be banned!
If all the mods agree i think it's save to lock this thread.
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