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EasternHammer:
  I never got "bunk" oils in the sense that they were underdosed or had no hormone completely, but 100% some gear that was painful post injection.  It's usually the UGLs adding to much BA/BB to the oil to prevent bacterial contamination, ironically. 

MIOVIT:

--- Quote from: ThisisOverload on June 08, 2023, 07:16:13 PM ---Not sure, the source told me it was a "bad batch".

I inquired more and he didn't respond.

I had been using him for a few orders with good results, but after that never again.

I've never made gear myself so not sure what could cause that.

The swelling was insane, no redness or heat. No fever. Maybe too much BA?

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testosterone propionate and sust (has test propionate) has PPI, but it shouldn't bei nsane pain, just bearable pain for a couple of days

ThisisOverload:

--- Quote from: MIOVIT on June 18, 2023, 04:02:18 AM ---testosterone propionate and sust (has test propionate) has PPI, but it shouldn't bei nsane pain, just bearable pain for a couple of days

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Yeah, i always got a little PIP from Prop and Sust for 2-3 days.

But the pain i experienced with the bad batch was insane and the swelling was crazy. I could barely sleep.

trt15:
Speaking from personal experience being located in Europe.

Pretty uncommon. If you use a lab that is trusted by many. So 90+% of the time you are actually on what you think you are on.

trt15:

--- Quote from: MIOVIT on May 27, 2023, 03:06:55 AM ---A lot of junk is being sold to young people like this, the same thing happens online, first they launch a new brand with an acceptable strength in their dosage and once they publish the laboratory results and sell that first batch with people giving good references then they start selling the junk lots underdosed and that's where they make a lot of money.

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That literally makes no sense in any way, shape or form. No front, that can happen, sure. But it is absoultely dumb - speaking in regards to the brand/producers.

As far as I know - roid raws are pretty cheap compared to what they are sold, once they are oils.

So why should a brand name - that sells liters and liters of oil for good prices - start underdosing to make 425& margins instead of 375%?

No really, that thought process makes no sense to me - if the raws are coming in, you better keep producing qualiy oils so your people gonna continue buying and making you rich. Once you start scamming people and trusted people point out on you, your brand is fucked.

Atleast, my though process.

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