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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1275 on: January 22, 2023, 10:14:15 PM »
Dorian was never a naturally big guy. Just look at him in 1984 when he was (supposedly) natural and trained for only a year using traditional methods, not hit. Aesthetically pleasing yes but big no. Bodybuilders like Victor Richards and Bertil Fox were bigger than Yates in their first year of training. Yates was a walking pharmaceutical experiment. He was highly responsive to the enormous amounts of juice he was on that got him big. It also took Yates 10 years to get to peak size while Arnold and Co it only took them only 5 years give or take. Even with all that rest and recuperation Yates goes on about it took him longer than others to get big.

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1276 on: January 23, 2023, 03:30:32 AM »
Natural Dorian after 9 months of training was better than you think

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« Reply #1277 on: January 23, 2023, 04:12:23 AM »
Very over rated with goofy looking feet (and ears until he had them pinned back).

I think a lot of white dudes just happy to see a white guy being competitive.

No comparison to the quality of Ronnie, Levrone, Flex and (even Jay in his prime). And even Heath would beat him.

While I agree that white guys are just happy to see a white guy being competitive then, 93 Yates was dominant. All time dominant. He was the real deal.

For the sake of saving bodybuilding, I would have went with 93 Wheeler because the Dorian Effect still reverberates in bodybuilding today. Meaning size at the expense of aesthetics. And depending too much on size and conditioning over aesthetics. Size, aesthetics and conditioning should hold equal value. Bodybuilding was an art. They changed that in 93.
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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1278 on: January 23, 2023, 06:40:23 AM »
Natural Dorian after 9 months of training was better than you think

Vic was bigger.

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1279 on: January 23, 2023, 07:21:32 AM »
Natural Dorian after 9 months of training was better than you think

If you assume he's natural.
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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1280 on: January 23, 2023, 02:39:29 PM »
Dorian was never a naturally big guy. Just look at him in 1984 when he was (supposedly) natural and trained for only a year using traditional methods, not hit. Aesthetically pleasing yes but big no. Bodybuilders like Victor Richards and Bertil Fox were bigger than Yates in their first year of training. Yates was a walking pharmaceutical experiment. He was highly responsive to the enormous amounts of juice he was on that got him big. It also took Yates 10 years to get to peak size while Arnold and Co it only took them only 5 years give or take. Even with all that rest and recuperation Yates goes on about it took him longer than others to get big.

Wrong, I know someone who spoke to him backstage at the 88 British when he got his pro card, the guy I know won the 80k class.
They discussed usage and at that point Dorian hadnt gone above 2 Parabalon a week, sure he had test in as well but it was certainly nothing out the ordinary.

He obviously used more as the years progressed

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1281 on: January 30, 2023, 06:56:45 AM »
Wrong, I know someone who spoke to him backstage at the 88 British when he got his pro card, the guy I know won the 80k class.
They discussed usage and at that point Dorian hadnt gone above 2 Parabalon a week, sure he had test in as well but it was certainly nothing out the ordinary.

He obviously used more as the years progressed

Yes, that's what I had stated. At his peak he was using way more dosage and abused GH. The point is he wasn't a naturally big person to begin with. It was the drugs that gave him that size, not some special training method or diet. Yates relied more on drugs than training methods to get big. That was the point.

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1282 on: January 30, 2023, 12:55:22 PM »

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1283 on: January 30, 2023, 02:32:12 PM »
Yes, that's what I had stated. At his peak he was using way more dosage and abused GH. The point is he wasn't a naturally big person to begin with. It was the drugs that gave him that size, not some special training method or diet. Yates relied more on drugs than training methods to get big. That was the point.

And the other guys of his day didn't?

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1284 on: January 31, 2023, 07:19:22 PM »
Yes, that's what I had stated. At his peak he was using way more dosage and abused GH. The point is he wasn't a naturally big person to begin with. It was the drugs that gave him that size, not some special training method or diet. Yates relied more on drugs than training methods to get big. That was the point.

Please state how you know this for a fact....................
And state exactly what & how much he was using................... ....

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1285 on: January 31, 2023, 07:21:26 PM »
And the other guys of his day didn't?


Nope very clearly not - They were all "Natural" & PED free - Just peach cobblers & gatorade

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1286 on: February 01, 2023, 11:52:36 AM »

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1287 on: February 01, 2023, 12:27:49 PM »
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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1288 on: February 01, 2023, 01:04:59 PM »
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No Ped's - Some PED's or 17 KG of PED's Dorian looks Awesome there. !!

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1289 on: February 01, 2023, 01:12:36 PM »
Dorian’s quads in 1993 were DIESEL

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1290 on: February 01, 2023, 01:48:16 PM »
LOl im not a Dorian fan, especially as a person, but his physique can't be denied or his genetics, no one worked harder or smarter than him, he took far less than most, abused GH, lol. nope. He was with Kerry Kayes, not Paul Borrenson. He was very anti Paul's excessive methods.  No one ever got more out of an iu or mg than Yates, everything was so measured, the first Mr OLympia who has a full business case type plan of how to train grow eat and support growth through medicated strategy. Whilst others had better muscular genetics, none had his mindset and it wasn't to take more, he won the Olympia taking less than Nasser, Flex etc, he didnt take what Shawn or Lee Labrada or even Haney another genetic freak was taking but his dosages for his bodyweight were moderate in comparison to others.

For then record biggest hyper responder I ever saw was Paul Dillet that guy could grow in front of you and only eat one meal a day, that's a guy with a great genetic response and again took half of what Flex and Nasser did. Just a freak.

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1291 on: February 01, 2023, 02:49:42 PM »
LOl im not a Dorian fan, especially as a person, but his physique can't be denied or his genetics, no one worked harder or smarter than him, he took far less than most, abused GH, lol. nope. He was with Kerry Kayes, not Paul Borrenson. He was very anti Paul's excessive methods.  No one ever got more out of an iu or mg than Yates, everything was so measured, the first Mr OLympia who has a full business case type plan of how to train grow eat and support growth through medicated strategy. Whilst others had better muscular genetics, none had his mindset and it wasn't to take more, he won the Olympia taking less than Nasser, Flex etc, he didnt take what Shawn or Lee Labrada or even Haney another genetic freak was taking but his dosages for his bodyweight were moderate in comparison to others.

For then record biggest hyper responder I ever saw was Paul Dillet that guy could grow in front of you and only eat one meal a day, that's a guy with a great genetic response and again took half of what Flex and Nasser did. Just a freak.

I saw a Lee Priest interview where he said Paul didnt like doing shots because he was scared and often missed his dosages.

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1292 on: February 01, 2023, 06:17:52 PM »
I saw a Lee Priest interview where he said Paul didnt like doing shots because he was scared and often missed his dosages.

truth, Paul took a lot of orals pre contest to get his mgs up to hold muscle, was a catch 22 as it killed his appetite as well.  But look at the size he held on one to two meals a day, absolute freak. He was like Levrone he actually grew into the contest.

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1293 on: February 01, 2023, 06:26:08 PM »

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« Reply #1294 on: February 02, 2023, 09:49:32 AM »

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1295 on: February 03, 2023, 10:02:23 AM »

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1296 on: February 03, 2023, 10:14:32 AM »
truth, Paul took a lot of orals pre contest to get his mgs up to hold muscle, was a catch 22 as it killed his appetite as well.  But look at the size he held on one to two meals a day, absolute freak. He was like Levrone he actually grew into the contest.

Truth Paul was a charlatan & con man + big liar
Interesting back story to him breaking his back & how why it happened
Then moved to a remote farm house with dropping steel shutters on doors & windows
& alarm connected direct to police station.

Suicide or drug overdose as cause of death.

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1297 on: February 03, 2023, 12:47:25 PM »
Truth Paul was a charlatan & con man + big liar
Interesting back story to him breaking his back & how why it happened
Then moved to a remote farm house with dropping steel shutters on doors & windows
& alarm connected direct to police station.

Suicide or drug overdose as cause of death.

Damn. Are the cartels after him?

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1298 on: February 03, 2023, 12:54:58 PM »

that garage pic might be the best pic ever taken of him.candid pic wise

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Re: Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion
« Reply #1299 on: February 03, 2023, 03:07:10 PM »
Truth Paul was a charlatan & con man + big liar
Interesting back story to him breaking his back & how why it happened
Then moved to a remote farm house with dropping steel shutters on doors & windows
& alarm connected direct to police station.

Suicide or drug overdose as cause of death.
he means Dillet not Borreson...