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Polling the Occupy Wall Street Crowd
In interviews, protesters show that they are leftists out of step with most American voters. Yet Democrats are embracing them anyway.
By DOUGLAS SCHOEN
President Obama and the Democratic leadership are making a critical error in embracing the Occupy Wall Street movement—and it may cost them the 2012 election.
Last week, senior White House adviser David Plouffe said that "the protests you're seeing are the same conversations people are having in living rooms and kitchens all across America. . . . People are frustrated by an economy that does not reward hard work and responsibility, where Wall Street and Main Street don't seem to play by the same set of rules." Nancy Pelosi and others have echoed the message.
Yet the Occupy Wall Street movement reflects values that are dangerously out of touch with the broad mass of the American people—and particularly with swing voters who are largely independent and have been trending away from the president since the debate over health-care reform.
The protesters have a distinct ideology and are bound by a deep commitment to radical left-wing policies. On Oct. 10 and 11, Arielle Alter Confino, a senior researcher at my polling firm, interviewed nearly 200 protesters in New York's Zuccotti Park. Our findings probably represent the first systematic random sample of Occupy Wall Street opinion.
Our research shows clearly that the movement doesn't represent unemployed America and is not ideologically diverse. Rather, it comprises an unrepresentative segment of the electorate that believes in radical redistribution of wealth, civil disobedience and, in some instances, violence. Half (52%) have participated in a political movement before, virtually all (98%) say they would support civil disobedience to achieve their goals, and nearly one-third (31%) would support violence to advance their agenda.
The vast majority of demonstrators are actually employed, and the proportion of protesters unemployed (15%) is within single digits of the national unemployment rate (9.1%).
An overwhelming majority of demonstrators supported Barack Obama in 2008. Now 51% disapprove of the president while 44% approve, and only 48% say they will vote to re-elect him in 2012, while at least a quarter won't vote.
Fewer than one in three (32%) call themselves Democrats, while roughly the same proportion (33%) say they aren't represented by any political party.
What binds a large majority of the protesters together—regardless of age, socioeconomic status or education—is a deep commitment to left-wing policies: opposition to free-market capitalism and support for radical redistribution of wealth, intense regulation of the private sector, and protectionist policies to keep American jobs from going overseas.
Sixty-five percent say that government has a moral responsibility to guarantee all citizens access to affordable health care, a college education, and a secure retirement—no matter the cost. By a large margin (77%-22%), they support raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans, but 58% oppose raising taxes for everybody, with only 36% in favor. And by a close margin, protesters are divided on whether the bank bailouts were necessary (49%) or unnecessary (51%).
Thus Occupy Wall Street is a group of engaged progressives who are disillusioned with the capitalist system and have a distinct activist orientation. Among the general public, by contrast, 41% of Americans self-identify as conservative, 36% as moderate, and only 21% as liberal. That's why the Obama-Pelosi embrace of the movement could prove catastrophic for their party.
In 1970, aligning too closely with the antiwar movement hurt Democrats in the midterm election, when many middle-class and working-class Americans ended up supporting hawkish candidates who condemned student disruptions. While that 1970 election should have been a sweep against the first-term Nixon administration, it was instead one of only four midterm elections since 1938 when the president's party didn't lose seats.
With the Democratic Party on the defensive throughout the 1970 campaign, liberal Democrats were only able to win on Election Day by distancing themselves from the student protest movement. So Adlai Stevenson III pinned an American flag to his lapel, appointed Chicago Seven prosecutor Thomas Foran chairman of his Citizen's Committee, and emphasized "law and order"—a tactic then employed by Ted Kennedy, who denounced the student protesters as "campus commandos" who must be repudiated, "especially by those who may share their goals."
Today, having abandoned any effort to work with the congressional super committee to craft a bipartisan agreement on deficit reduction, President Obama has thrown in with those who support his desire to tax oil companies and the rich, rather than appeal to independent and self-described moderate swing voters who want smaller government and lower taxes, not additional stimulus or interference in the private sector.
Rather than embracing huge new spending programs and tax increases, plus increasingly radical and potentially violent activists, the Democrats should instead build a bridge to the much more numerous independents and moderates in the center by opposing bailouts and broad-based tax increases.
Put simply, Democrats need to say they are with voters in the middle who want cooperation, conciliation and lower taxes. And they should work particularly hard to contrast their rhetoric with the extremes advocated by the Occupy Wall Street crowd.
Mr. Schoen, who served as a pollster for President Bill Clinton, is author of "Hopelessly Divided: The New Crisis in American Politics and What It Means for 2012 and Beyond," forthcoming from Rowman and Littlefield.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637082965745362.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read
Gee, who'd have thought they were teat-sucking trust-fund douches? ::)
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If they're still around come election time, I predict Obama will distance himself from these motherfuckers faster than he ran from Reverend White.
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If they're still around come election time, I predict Obama will distance himself from these motherfuckers faster than he ran from Reverend White.
He refused to meet with them in NC today.
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He refused to meet with them in NC today.
Interesting. So it begins...
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Interesting. So it begins...
He's a fucking parasite. How many different "causes" has he backed now? Whatever the flavor of the month is, you can guarantee he'll be there attaching his sucker to it.
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if they last a year, i bet the GOP starts sucking up to them.
did you hear the audio of Geraldo from FOX, giving handjobs to the crowd? "I protested nam, i'm just like you..." while they chanted "Fox sucks"
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if they last a year, i bet the GOP starts sucking up to them.
did you hear the audio of Geraldo from FOX, giving handjobs to the crowd? "I protested nam, i'm just like you..." while they chanted "Fox sucks"
The GOP starts sucking up to them? Fucking crackheads, man. Try thinking instead of typing the first thought those three synapses vomit up.
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The GOP starts sucking up to them? Fucking crackheads, man. Try thinking instead of typing the first thought those three synapses vomit up.
you dont think candidates of the right - if it's damn close on their 2012 election - will try to appeal to them? You bet they will.
Geraldo was kissing their ass. And i've noticed the initial nonstop criticism from the politicians on the right seems to have stopped ;)
you think as the movement grew, their criticism would grow. they want those votes.
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The GOP starts sucking up to them? Fucking crackheads, man. Try thinking instead of typing the first thought those three synapses vomit up.
Agreed. No way the GOP starts sucking up to them.
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Agreed. No way the GOP starts sucking up to them.
I guess we'll see.
Rallies all over the world, camping out in cities in almost every state - and http://www.foxnews.com/ doesn't even have them on their home page.
i spose "moon mining" (yes, seriously) is more newsworthy? ;)
They've gone from bashing to ignoring. Did you notice?
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you dont think candidates of the right - if it's damn close on their 2012 election - will try to appeal to them? You bet they will.
Geraldo was kissing their ass. And i've noticed the initial nonstop criticism from the politicians on the right seems to have stopped ;)
you think as the movement grew, their criticism would grow. they want those votes.
Did you read any of the article I posted? There is no way the GOP sucks up to these commies nor is there anyway they let the GOP suck up to them. ::)
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Did you read any of the article I posted? There is no way the GOP sucks up to these commies nor is there anyway they let the GOP suck up to them. ::)
I think if it lasts, they will. They want to win re-election. Even if it's just "let's stop attacking the OWS marchers"....
I'm showing you that FOX, who last week was covering them nonstop, is now ignoring them - even as the rallies GROW. huge difference.
If the tea party was in 40 countries, marching in the streets, methinks fox would be covering it ;)
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I think if it lasts, they will. They want to win re-election. Even if it's just "let's stop attacking the OWS marchers"....
I'm showing you that FOX, who last week was covering them nonstop, is now ignoring them - even as the rallies GROW. huge difference.
If the tea party was in 40 countries, marching in the streets, methinks fox would be covering it ;)
Grow? From what? 325 people to 350 people? ::)
IMO, the only reason they were even covered to begin with is because some people were crying that they were being ignored. Then they covered, turns out to be a small bunch of schmucks with no coherent message.
They all need to go back to ignoring them.
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Grow? From what? 325 people to 350 people? ::)
IMO, the only reason they were even covered to begin with is because some people were crying that they were being ignored. Then they covered, turns out to be a small bunch of schmucks with no coherent message.
They all need to go back to ignoring them.
Exactly.
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40 countries?
occupy is bigger than tea party ever was... isn't it?
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Keep swinging, douche. Sometimes you should just give it a rest.
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Keep swinging, douche. Sometimes you should just give it a rest.
why attack the messenger? do you agree or disagree with my statement that OWS is bigger than the tea party, worldwide?
Hey, I think the OWS kids are a bunch of spoiled douchebags, and I'd slam all their fingers in car doors if I had the chance.
I actually agree with more of the TP points.
But that doesn't make what I said any less true. Occupy rallies all over the world. It's bigger than the tea party, agree or disagree?
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Occupy Wall St. has nothing do to with Occupy Rome or Occupy Uzbekistan. The only characteristic they have in common is the "Occupy" name.
These protesters have no demands. They're not cohesive. This has been admitted. Yet here you are trying to say that a protest on the other side of the world is the same as the one over here? You're a sad, sad joke.
The various protests in this country have nothing in common beyond protesting but the other 40 countries do!!!
Italians are protesting massive austerity measures. Are we? We haven't enacted jack shit for austerity.
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40 countries?
occupy is bigger than tea party ever was... isn't it?
Oh please. Grow up.
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Oh please. Grow up.
attack 240 but wont address my points... eh, fuck it. have a great night dudes. off to watch end of GOP debate. RPaul getting plenty of airtime and wow, he's using it well!
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attack 240 but wont address my points... eh, fuck it. have a great night dudes. off to watch end of GOP debate. RPaul getting plenty of airtime and wow, he's using it well!
You make no fucking points. What you do is regurgitate whatever retarded opinion you managed you come up with, regardless of whether there's any support to it or not.
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40 countries?
occupy is bigger than tea party ever was... isn't it?
Oh it's 40 now? Thought it was 82? You dweebs can't even figure out. ::)
And now they're just linking anything with OWS. The Asia protest was mostly about nuclear policy. But yeah, they're OWS. ::)
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Occupy Wall St. has nothing do to with Occupy Rome or Occupy Uzbekistan. They only characteristic they have in common is the "Occupy" name.
These protesters have no demands. They're not cohesive. This has been admitted. Yet here you are trying to say that a protest on the other side of the world is the same as the one over here? You're a sad, sad joke.
The various protests in this country have nothing in common beyond protesting but the other 40 countries do!!!
Italians are protesting massive austerity measures. Are we? We haven't enacted jack shit for austerity.
Beat me to it!
Exactly, shit in other countries trying to be linked with OWS. GMAFB.
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Beat me to it!
Exactly, shit in other countries trying to be linked with OWS. GMAFB.
He really is the most annoying person on this forum. Look at how badly he's derailing this thread. He does this all the time. He can't address the topics. All he can do is make straw man after straw man.
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These people are not the cause of the problem, they are a symptom of problem. They are a product of the idiocracy developed by academia, msm, big govt, etc.
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attack 240 but wont address my points... eh, fuck it. have a great night dudes. off to watch end of GOP debate. RPaul getting plenty of airtime and wow, he's using it well!
Occupy Wall St. has nothing do to with Occupy Rome or Occupy Uzbekistan. The only characteristic they have in common is the "Occupy" name.
These protesters have no demands. They're not cohesive. This has been admitted. Yet here you are trying to say that a protest on the other side of the world is the same as the one over here? You're a sad, sad joke.
The various protests in this country have nothing in common beyond protesting but the other 40 countries do!!!
Italians are protesting massive austerity measures. Are we? We haven't enacted jack shit for austerity.
seems like BF addressed your idiocy just fine...run away now 180 and start more threads to bury this one
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:)
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The amount of effort going into trying to discredit this movement proves the effectiveness of it.
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The amount of effort going into trying to discredit this movement proves the effectiveness of it.
Agreed!
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Agreed!
I'm glad you agree it is an effective movement. Your fear of it is palpable.
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I'm glad you agree it is an effective movement. Your fear of it is palpable.
No, I am more repulsed than anything by these morons.
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I'm glad you agree it is an effective movement. Your fear of it is palpable.
You're right for once. All of us are very afraid that communicable diseases such as hepatitis, whooping cough, scurvy and new strains of previously unidentified body lice will spark an epidemic unseen in this country since the industrial revolution as a result of the occupy Wall Street protests. Thankfully, there are such a small number of actual protesters that the rest of civilized society can continue going about its business without worry. The United States will survive, so long as it continues to be brainwashed by evil Capitalist ideals like bathing, using hand sanitizer and flushing the toilet.
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The amount of effort going into trying to discredit this movement proves the effectiveness of it.
Effective? Then you should have no problem listing all the changes that have come about from it?
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I don't know that its effective.
Probably not really. Anything changing?
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Bump for examples of "effectiveness"!
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Bump for examples of "effectiveness"!
The rape of a female protester by a fellow occupier in Cleveland-- The heroic Jeffersonian freedom fighters in NY who have relieved themselves on cop cars, overdosed on heroin, stolen from their fellow protesters and ( the latest) exposed their genitalia to 10 year old boys and snapped pictures of the deed on their cellphone.
Examples like these have shown the effectiveness of the doctrine of unintended consequences. I hope these protests last until election day and Obama+ rest of the left continue to embrace these braindead slobs. This whole movement will be very effective in guaranteeing the GOP takes both houses of Congress and the WH.
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LMFAO
I wonder if KC felt the same way when the media lit into palin or the tea party?
probably not...
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The rape of a female protester by a fellow occupier in Cleveland-- The heroic Jeffersonian freedom fighters in NY who have relieved themselves on cop cars, overdosed on heroin, stolen from their fellow protesters and ( the latest) exposed their genitalia to 10 year old boys and snapped pictures of the deed on their cellphone.
Examples like these have shown the effectiveness of the doctrine of unintended consequences. I hope these protests last until election day and Obama the rest of the left continue to embrace these braindead slobs. This whole movement will be very effective in guaranteeing the GOP takes both houses of Congress and the WH.
;D
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The rape of a female protester by a fellow occupier in Cleveland-- The heroic Jeffersonian freedom fighters in NY who have relieved themselves on cop cars, overdosed on heroin, stolen from their fellow protesters and ( the latest) exposed their genitalia to 10 year old boys and snapped pictures of the deed on their cellphone.
Examples like these have shown the effectiveness of the doctrine of unintended consequences. I hope these protests last until election day and Obama+ rest of the left continue to embrace these braindead slobs. This whole movement will be very effective in guaranteeing the GOP takes both houses of Congress and the WH.
lol.
Looks like kcballer ran like a little bitch after getting called out.
Smart move - Guideline #2 - Dissappear.
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I think KC is 240's alter more lib ego....they both have a shallow grasp of...just about anything.
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Effective? Then you should have no problem listing all the changes that have come about from it?
A protest does not have to produce an outcome immediately in order for it to be effective. The first protests against the Vietnam war weren't effective by this standard were they? Or the womens' suffrage movement wasn't effective at first either right? This has people talking, that is one of the points of a protest. To provide a platform for your views or displeasure at the current way things are going.
The fact that everyone is looking and commenting shows the attention it is getting, therefore as a protest it is effective.
You and others on this board trying so hard to discredit it just proves how effective it has been. It has scared the status quo into 'attack' mode.
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A protest does not have to produce an outcome immediately in order for it to be effective. The first protests against the Vietnam war weren't effective by this standard were they? Or the womens' suffrage movement wasn't effective at first either right? This has people talking, that is one of the points of a protest. To provide a platform for your views or displeasure at the current way things are going.
The fact that everyone is looking and commenting shows the attention it is getting, therefore as a protest it is effective.
You and others on this board trying so hard to discredit it just proves how effective it has been. It has scared the status quo into 'attack' mode.
Agreed - its very effective and showing the freaks of society and who they support and who supports them.
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A protest does not have to produce an outcome immediately in order for it to be effective. The first protests against the Vietnam war weren't effective by this standard were they? Or the womens' suffrage movement wasn't effective at first either right? This has people talking, that is one of the points of a protest. To provide a platform for your views or displeasure at the current way things are going.
The fact that everyone is looking and commenting shows the attention it is getting, therefore as a protest it is effective.
You and others on this board trying so hard to discredit it just proves how effective it has been. It has scared the status quo into 'attack' mode.
Exactly why I thought you ran.
Can't name anything.
Just because something is happening and gets talked about doesn't make it effective. If I ran nude across the White House lawn, it's going to get talked about. Doesn't mean it was effective towards anything.
And nobody has a need to discredit them, they do that themselves. We get to laugh.
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Exactly why I thought you ran.
Can't name anything.
Just because something is happening and gets talked about doesn't make it effective. If I ran nude across the White House lawn, it's going to get talked about. Doesn't mean it was effective towards anything.
And nobody has a need to discredit them, they do that themselves. We get to laugh.
Name anything? What are you a child? Do you even understand the purpose of protest? It all starts somewhere.
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A protest does not have to produce an outcome immediately in order for it to be effective. The first protests against the Vietnam war weren't effective by this standard were they? Or the womens' suffrage movement wasn't effective at first either right? This has people talking, that is one of the points of a protest. To provide a platform for your views or displeasure at the current way things are going.
The fact that everyone is looking and commenting shows the attention it is getting, therefore as a protest it is effective.
You and others on this board trying so hard to discredit it just proves how effective it has been. It has scared the status quo into 'attack' mode.
Again...HISTORY...do you know it. The Vietnam protests ended when the draft did...the war ended for the US in 1973 after Congress defunded it...and it dragged on until 75's when the commies rolled into Saigon. The protests weren't nation wide and did very little in the heartland. Your over simplfing a complex issue. The Tea party worked because it had a coherent message. These idiots want free stuf...sure thing. People shitting on cop cars won't get you free tuition...maybe a 4.00 GPA would work..but then they wouldn't have time to protest on Wall Street.
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Name anything? What are you a child? Do you even understand the purpose of protest? It all starts somewhere.
From what i can tell:
1. Cry about pissing away 100k plus on worthless Divirsity Studies degree
2. Cry about not getting 100k a year job to do nothing.
3. Cry about us not being a commie nation
4. Cry about maobama failures
5. Cry about healthcare despite obama spending 1.5 years on that mess
6. Cry about Wall Street despite the fact that maobama has geithner, summers, gentsler in the WH
7. Cry abouy wall street regulation despite the fact that maobama passed Dodd Frank
8. Cry about the economy despite the fact that obama has spent trillions on ball washing, solyndra, etc etc.
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Name anything? What are you a child? Do you even understand the purpose of protest? It all starts somewhere.
Uh yeah retard, you made the claim back it the fuck up.
You can't and now you wanna go the bitch route.
BTW, you don't understand the purpose. You have no fucking idea what they want, what they stand for, what they are demanding.
The organizers themselves can't even name what the fuck they want and now it looks like more riff raff than OWS.
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From what i can tell:
1. Cry about pissing away 100k plus on worthless Divirsity Studies degree
2. Cry about not getting 100k a year job to do nothing.
3. Cry about us not being a commie nation
4. Cry about maobama failures
5. Cry about healthcare despite obama spending 1.5 years on that mess
6. Cry about Wall Street despite the fact that maobama has geithner, summers, gentsler in the WH
7. Cry abouy wall street regulation despite the fact that maobama passed Dodd Frank
8. Cry about the economy despite the fact that obama has spent trillions on ball washing, solyndra, etc etc.
Exactly, these tools can't even spell out there own purpose.
Comically, kcballer defends it and doesn't have a fucking clue what the hell they even want.
Sometimes, you just gotta shake your head at the stupidity all around.
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Even the anti-war movement had a theme...these kids want free this and that...some are professional protestors. Some are commies..some want a 75K job. Its a mess.
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I wouldn't even call this a "movement" at this point. It's just a collection of people engaging in protests, without knowing what the heck they're protesting about. They have no leader, no message, no real agenda. It's pretty pointless at this stage.
They have a lot of work to do if they want to actually become like the Tea Party.
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Uh yeah retard, you made the claim back it the fuck up.
You can't and now you wanna go the bitch route.
BTW, you don't understand the purpose. You have no fucking idea what they want, what they stand for, what they are demanding.
The organizers themselves can't even name what the fuck they want and now it looks like more riff raff than OWS.
The claim has been backed up. Your method of 'effectiveness' is not the same as mine. I don't care that they have no coherent message, they have forced people like you to acknowledge their view on the injustice of the current system. That is what this all stems from.
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I wouldn't even call this a "movement" at this point. It's just a collection of people engaging in protests, without knowing what the heck they're protesting about. They have no leader, no message, no real agenda. It's pretty pointless at this stage.
They have a lot of work to do if they want to actually become like the Tea Party.
Perhaps if the Koch brothers fund them like they did the tea party we will see a more campaign style of protesting. however, that is not always the endgame for every protest.
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Your right..shitting against a patrol car is a goal all in its self.
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Your right..shitting against a patrol car is a goal all in its self.
Yes lets take one idiot and pretend they are all like that. ::)
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Perhaps if the Koch brothers fund them like they did the tea party we will see a more campaign style of protesting. however, that is not always the endgame for every protest.
Money is important, but what good is funding if they don't have a clear agenda?
What do you think the point of these protests is? (I have no idea.)
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Money is important, but what good is funding if they don't have a clear agenda?
What do you think the point of these protests is? (I have no idea.)
It's rooted in a collective frustration with the government, large business and the failure of the "American dream" for many people.
It's easy to see they feel disenfranchised, but they all have different views on what the problem manifests itself as or what the solutions are.
Having a collection of diverse viewpoints is a positive.
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It's rooted in a collective frustration with the government, large business and the failure of the "American dream" for many people.
It's easy to see they feel disenfranchised, but they all have different views on what the problem manifests itself as or what the solutions are.
Having a collection of diverse viewpoints is a positive.
I agree having a collection of diverse viewpoints is a good thing. Where they are not connecting the dots is channelling those viewpoints towards a collective, positive goal. I don't see that. I'm not sure they do either. If they don't get focused, all they become is just a bunch of crybabies. They need to get focused.
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Very diplomatic of of u beach.
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Very diplomatic of of u beach.
:)
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When they start protesting at their college campuses for duping them into taking on six figure debts to get worthless degrees then I'll pay attention. Until then, blaming the banks for your loan problems is laughable. They'd be blaming the banks if they DIDN'T give them the money to take on those loans. ::)
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Yes lets take one idiot and pretend they are all like that. ::)
i'm pretty sure tens of thousnads of protesters have shit on police cars. The lamestream media is just covering it up.
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The claim has been backed up. Your method of 'effectiveness' is not the same as mine. I don't care that they have no coherent message, they have forced people like you to acknowledge their view on the injustice of the current system. That is what this all stems from.
LMFAO. Forced me to acknowledge their view?
I don't even know their views.
You don't even know their views dumbass, haha.
They can't even name their views.
I think it's pretty much settled, they're not effective and you've yet to point to anything they've done that's been effective at anything.
Blacken, you're supporting this shit.
Maybe you can show they've been effective at something?
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Baltimore Occupiers Discourage Sexual Assault Victims From Going To The Police, Will “Supply Abuser With Counseling”
(Baltimore Sun) — Efforts by the Occupy Baltimore protest group to evolve into a self-contained, self-governing community have erupted into controversy with the distribution of a pamphlet that victim advocates and health workers fear discourages victims of sexual assaults from contacting police.
The pamphlet says that members of the protest group who believe they are victims or who suspect sexual abuse “are encouraged to immediately report the incident to the Security Committee,” which will investigate and “supply the abuser with counseling resources.”
The directive also says, in part, “Though we do not encourage the involvement of the police in our community, the survivor has every right, and the support of Occupy Baltimore, to report the abuse to the appropriate authorities.”
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Report: ABC Reporter’s Life Threatened at Occupy Oakland, “We Shoot White Bitches Like You Around Here”
Early yesterday morning, we received a tip from a reader in the San Francisco East Bay area who informed us that a local reporter’s life had been threatened by an activist at the Occupy Oakland demonstration.
Our source, who is fearful of reprisal and has requested anonymity, says that KGO-TV’s Amy Hollyfield was accosted by a man who threatened her and used a racial slur:
“We shoot white bitches like you around here.”
Other local morning news reports from three of the major Bay Area stations suggested that the Occupy Oakland tent city had descended into rat-infested squalor with complaints of vandalism, public urination, sexual harassment, and sex in public.
The night before, local CBS affiliate KNTV had reported that one Occupy Oakland activist had set his dog on a reporter in a vicious attack that would have maimed his arm had the reporter not been wearing a suit jacket.
http://bigjournalism.com/abreitbart/2011/10/20/source-abc-reporters-life-allegedly-threatened-at-occupy-oakland-we-shoot-white-bitches-like-you-around-here/
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Occupy Los Angeles Spokeswoman Refuses To Condemn Woman Standing Next To Her Calling For Jews To Be Run Out Of America
"Jews have been run out of 109 countries throughout history and we need to run them out of this one."
Fired LAUSD teacher Patricia McAllister's latest anti-Jewish comments were made while standing right next to a spokeswoman for the Occupy LA protests. Given the opportunity to condemn the remarks on behalf of the Occupy movement, she refused.
http://www.breitbart.tv/occupyla-spokeswoman-refuses-to-condemn-teachers-antisemitic-statements/
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NPR Host Fired After Serving As Occupy DC Spokeswoman
An NPR opera host has been fired after she admitted to serving as a spokeswoman for the ongoing Occupy D.C. movement.
Lisa Simeone said Thursday she was fired over the phone while NPR’s code of ethics was read to her. Earlier this week, Roll Call reported she was affiliated with October 2011, an Occupy-related group currently holing up in D.C.’s Freedom Plaza.
“Well, I work in radio still, but this is totally different,” Simeone told Roll Call on Tuesday. “I’m a freelancer.”
Simeone was the host of “Soundprint” and “World of Opera.” Neither program was produced by NPR, but “World of Opera” was distributed by the station and “Soundprint” aired on local affiliates.
“I find it puzzling that NPR objects to my exercising my rights as an American citizen — the right to free speech, the right to peaceable assembly — on my own time in my own life,” Simeone told the Baltimore Sun on Wednesday before she was fired.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/npr-host-fired-after-serving-as-occupy-dc-spokeswoman/
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Wall Street Occupiers Still Desecrating The American Flag
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It's rooted in a collective frustration with the government, large business and the failure of the "American dream" for many people.
It's easy to see they feel disenfranchised, but they all have different views on what the problem manifests itself as or what the solutions are.
Having a collection of diverse viewpoints is a positive.
why arent they protesting the govt then? protesting corps doesnt do shit, b/c they have no control over these corporations other than not giving them their business which these morons cant seem to understand as they text and talk on their iphones LMFAO...
did you feel that the reason the left went after and goes after the tea party and palin is b.c they felt they were so effective?
probably not....
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why arent they protesting the govt then? protesting corps doesnt do shit, b/c they have no control over these corporations other than not giving them their business which these morons cant seem to understand as they text and talk on their iphones LMFAO...
did you feel that the reason the left went after and goes after the tea party and palin is b.c they felt they were so effective?
probably not....
Probably because of the view that the corporations are our government. They decide who to fund and who not to fund, and money = political success in this country.
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why arent they protesting the govt then? protesting corps doesnt do shit, b/c they have no control over these corporations other than not giving them their business which these morons cant seem to understand as they text and talk on their iphones LMFAO...
did you feel that the reason the left went after and goes after the tea party and palin is b.c they felt they were so effective?
probably not....
I'm going to take a different angle.
First, I propose that there is no "normal" core. The libs keep desperately trying to claim that only the "fringes" are getting the headlines. Sadly, if there was any real normal core group of people, they would have at least have gotten an understandable, comprehensive list of issues that they want dealt with and the "fringe" would be long since off the headlines.
Reality seems to me to be - the majority of the group is a bunch of nuts and only a tiny, tiny fraction are normal.
Second, the only common theme I've been able to discern is....
wait for it.....
"GIVE ME FREE SHIT".
Yes, maybe the corporations will pony up in an attempt at good will (not likely, but maybe). Pay my mortgage, college costs, food, whatever.