Robert Reich: Do it with 51 votes

[240 is Back]

Wasn't this guy getting props nonstop from the far-right getbig members recently?

Do it with 51 votes
The 60-vote requirement for healthcare is made up. 51 is a majority, and it's all we need
By Robert Reich

So what’s been stopping Obama from using reconciliation? Even if some of the arguments held water before now, none does any longer.

My free advice to the President: If you want to get healthcare enacted you must use reconciliation and quickly. Host your bipartisan gab fest at the White House on Thursday. Tell Republicans you’ve been eagerly awaiting their ideas for over a year, but the American public can’t wait any longer. Explain to them how our current economic mess is directly related to the health care mess -- we’re paying 16 percent of our GDP for health care while health insurers are hiking rates and Americans are losing their health insurance every day. Then tell the House and Senate to get to work on putting their bills together (or tell the House Dems to enact the Senate bill and then save their disagreements for reconciliation), and tell Harry Reid you want the Senate bill on a fast track of reconciliation.

Explain to the American people you understand their impatience. The Constitution does not require 60 votes in the Senate to pass legislation. A majority will do. That’s called democracy.

[BM OUT]

Not from me.This little kike was the fool that said whites shouldnt get jobs that were "created" by the stimulous bill.This little jew is a typical anti white racist piece of crap that surrounds Obama.

[MCWAY]

Wasn't this guy getting props nonstop from the far-right getbig members recently?

Do it with 51 votes
The 60-vote requirement for healthcare is made up. 51 is a majority, and it's all we need
By Robert Reich

So what’s been stopping Obama from using reconciliation? Even if some of the arguments held water before now, none does any longer.

My free advice to the President: If you want to get healthcare enacted you must use reconciliation and quickly. Host your bipartisan gab fest at the White House on Thursday. Tell Republicans you’ve been eagerly awaiting their ideas for over a year, but the American public can’t wait any longer. Explain to them how our current economic mess is directly related to the health care mess -- we’re paying 16 percent of our GDP for health care while health insurers are hiking rates and Americans are losing their health insurance every day. Then tell the House and Senate to get to work on putting their bills together (or tell the House Dems to enact the Senate bill and then save their disagreements for reconciliation), and tell Harry Reid you want the Senate bill on a fast track of reconciliation.

Explain to the American people you understand their impatience. The Constitution does not require 60 votes in the Senate to pass legislation. A majority will do. That’s called democracy.

This isn't about the American public. This is about the Dems, wanting to impose this mess on the American people. The GOP has been locked out of the conversation, time and time again. So, this whole pathetic attempt by Team Obama to paint the Republicans as having no ideas is just plain pathetic and few (if any) are buying it.

The American people want Washington to START FROM SCRATCH and do this the right way. Obama and his posse have no plans of doing that and they really don't want any bi-partianship. This summit on Thursday is PR gimmick and nothing more.

[James]

So Politicians from Counties that have Universal Health Care go elsewhere when it is their health on the line.

and...

Our very own Politicians have exempted themselves from getting Obama Care

Anyone still think this Bill is a good thing ?





http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5h0QC7bditrEb3wYz_6_b-gsGGDxA

[Mons Venus]

Wasn't this guy getting props nonstop from the far-right getbig members recently?

Do it with 51 votes
The 60-vote requirement for healthcare is made up. 51 is a majority, and it's all we need
By Robert Reich

So what’s been stopping Obama from using reconciliation? Even if some of the arguments held water before now, none does any longer.

My free advice to the President: If you want to get healthcare enacted you must use reconciliation and quickly. Host your bipartisan gab fest at the White House on Thursday. Tell Republicans you’ve been eagerly awaiting their ideas for over a year, but the American public can’t wait any longer. Explain to them how our current economic mess is directly related to the health care mess -- we’re paying 16 percent of our GDP for health care while health insurers are hiking rates and Americans are losing their health insurance every day. Then tell the House and Senate to get to work on putting their bills together (or tell the House Dems to enact the Senate bill and then save their disagreements for reconciliation), and tell Harry Reid you want the Senate bill on a fast track of reconciliation.

Explain to the American people you understand their impatience. The Constitution does not require 60 votes in the Senate to pass legislation. A majority will do. That’s called democracy.

Insurance reform will finally pass.  GOP has offered nothing other than "let's start over" 

[MCWAY]

Insurance reform will finally pass.  GOP has offered nothing other than "let's start over" 

The mere fact that the Dems would have to resort to the nuclear option (which will do little but guarantee that they get killed this November) simply shows that the American people DO NOT WANT this garbage.

The American people want Washington to start over. And, that's what Washington should do, end of story.

[Kazan]

Insurance reform will finally pass.  GOP has offered nothing other than "let's start over" 

Only a imbecile like you would have the audacity to call this "Insurance Reform".

[Soul Crusher]

Insurance reform will finally pass.  GOP has offered nothing other than "let's start over" 

Moron.  They are not reforming anything.  This is nothing more than a massive tax hike masqerading as a health bill.   

[MCWAY]

So Politicians from Counties that have Universal Health Care go elsewhere when it is their health on the line.

and...

Our very own Politicians have exempted themselves from getting Obama Care

Anyone still think this Bill is a good thing ?





http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5h0QC7bditrEb3wYz_6_b-gsGGDxA

Exactly. "Gatorade", the "Lousiana Purchase", and the "Cornhusker Kickback" were put in place to ensure that thsoe states (Florida, Lousiana, and Nebraska, respectively) don't get screwed like the rest of the nation.

And, you're dead on the money. Why is the Canadian Premier coming here to save his hide, if his country's healthcare is all that?

Left up to their system, this guy would be DEAD.

[BM OUT]

Insurance reform will finally pass.  GOP has offered nothing other than "let's start over" 

No ideas?How about tort reform,allowing people to buy insurance across state lines.Republicans had MANY ideas but the stupid ass democrats are hell bent on two thing.DESTROYING private insurance companies and government run health care.Considering how well the government runs everything else,it should be a great thing for the country.

[MCWAY]

Moron.  They are not reforming anything.  This is nothing more than a massive tax hike masqerading as a health bill.   

And, since Obama's made it clear that he's "considering" hiking taxes on people who makes under $250,000, Mons Venus is effectively cheering for his own taxes to get shot to the ceiling.

[Soul Crusher]

And, since Obama's made it clear that he's "considering" hiking taxes on people who makes under $250,000, Mons Venus is effectively cheering for his own taxes to get shot to the ceiling.

What else do you expect?   This thing is a disaster.   

[Mons Venus]

Insurance reform will finally pass.  GOP has offered nothing other than "let's start over" 

 

[Soul Crusher]

Good.  Nothing is way better than this abortion.   

[kcballer]

I have to say on the Canadian coming to America, i support a universal health care system with the option to purchase private insurance if you have the money.  I think a fully universal system is flawed with wait times etc, but unfortunately in Canada you can not purchase private insurance to cover costs and a lot of places don't have private hospitals at a high standard.  A mix of the two is the best option IMO.  However, people will go on about this Canadian going to the states but i can gurantee a huge majority of Canadians would not trade their health care for this American mess.  No freaking way.  Anyone of them who has been hurt and not been bankrupted by higher premiums or denial of claim will tell you that much.  As well as the majority who have the piece of mind to not worry that their costs will go up if they are found to have cancer, heart issues or a family history of some disease. 

[Mons Venus]

Only a imbecile like you would have the audacity to call this "Insurance Reform".

1/ Record rate hikes

2/ Record profits

3/ Record # patients dumped for profit


Sounds like INSURANCE REFORM to me!  

[Kazan]

1/ Record rate hikes

2/ Record profits

3/ Record # patients dumped for profit


Sounds like INSURANCE REFORM to me!  

Yeah sure it is, just keep telling yourself that

[Mons Venus]

And, since Obama's made it clear that he's "considering" hiking taxes on people who makes under $250,000, Mons Venus is effectively cheering for his own taxes to get shot to the ceiling.

Think again kid. Just the taxes on my home exceed your yearly income.  

[Kazan]

Think again kid. Just the taxes on my home exceed your yearly income.  

Wow how do you know that? Have been spying on me again butt jouster?
Beside there is no way your cardboard box costs more than what I make in a year.

[tonymctones]

Insurance reform will finally pass.  GOP has offered nothing other than "let's start over" 

Are you calling your messiah a liar Mons?

after all he has said time and time again that the reps have good and valid ideas on health care...

so which one is it there hoss?

[Mons Venus]

1/ Record rate hikes

2/ Record profits

3/ Record # patients dumped for profit


Sounds like INSURANCE REFORM to me!  

Republican Gov. Schwarzenegger agrees with me!


WASHINGTON — While Republican leaders in Washington are urging President Barack Obama to start from scratch on a health care bill, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Monday dismissed the idea as "bogus talk"

"I think any Republican that says you should start from scratch, I think that's bogus talk, and that's partisan talk," the governor told reporters.

[Kazan]

Republican Gov. Schwarzenegger agrees with me!


WASHINGTON — While Republican leaders in Washington are urging President Barack Obama to start from scratch on a health care bill, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Monday dismissed the idea as "bogus talk"

"I think any Republican that says you should start from scratch, I think that's bogus talk, and that's partisan talk," the governor told reporters.

And with that and $1 you can buy a cup of coffee

[Soul Crusher]

Republican Gov. Schwarzenegger agrees with me!


WASHINGTON — While Republican leaders in Washington are urging President Barack Obama to start from scratch on a health care bill, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Monday dismissed the idea as "bogus talk"

"I think any Republican that says you should start from scratch, I think that's bogus talk, and that's partisan talk," the governor told reporters.

Please, arnold is looking for a bailout from ZERO. 

[Mons Venus]

Enjoy your "Circle jerk" boys... I have a successful business to run.

Good day.

[Skeeter]

Exactly. "Gatorade", the "Lousiana Purchase", and the "Cornhusker Kickback" were put in place to ensure that thsoe states (Florida, Lousiana, and Nebraska, respectively) don't get screwed like the rest of the nation.

And, you're dead on the money. Why is the Canadian Premier coming here to save his hide, if his country's healthcare is all that?

Left up to their system, this guy would be DEAD.

Wrong!!!

Heart disease deaths (most recent) by country
# 1    Slovakia: 216 per 100,000 people  
# 2    Hungary: 192.1 per 100,000 people  
# 3    Ireland: 152.6 per 100,000 people  
# 4    Czech Republic: 148.6 per 100,000 people  
# 5    Finland: 143.8 per 100,000 people  
# 6    New Zealand: 127.3 per 100,000 people  
# 7    United Kingdom: 122 per 100,000 people  
# 8    Iceland: 115.4 per 100,000 people  
# 9    Norway: 112.5 per 100,000 people  
# 10    Australia: 110.9 per 100,000 people  
# 11    Sweden: 110.1 per 100,000 people  
# 12    Austria: 109.3 per 100,000 people  
# 13    United States: 106.5 per 100,000 people  
# 14    Germany: 106.1 per 100,000 people  
# 15    Denmark: 105.4 per 100,000 people  
# 16    Canada: 94.9 per 100,000 people  
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_hea_dis_dea-health-heart-disease-deaths

Other misadventures during surgical and medical care (per capita) (most recent) by country
# 1    Luxembourg: 2.13415 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 2    Hungary: 0.79944 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 3    Estonia: 0.750188 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 4    Norway: 0.653168 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 5    Austria: 0.610874 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 6    Slovenia: 0.497265 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 7    New Zealand: 0.495663 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 8    Latvia: 0.436681 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 9    Panama: 0.318471 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 10    Korea, South: 0.308382 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 11    Uruguay: 0.29274 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 12    Lithuania: 0.278009 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 13    Puerto Rico: 0.255689 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 14    Costa Rica: 0.249004 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 15    Moldova: 0.224467 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 16    Chile: 0.187723 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 17    Slovakia: 0.184128 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 18    Denmark: 0.184094 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 19    Nicaragua: 0.182983 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 20    Israel: 0.159312 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 21    Paraguay: 0.15753 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 22    Germany: 0.145576 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 23    United States: 0.131875 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 24    Netherlands: 0.121899 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 25    Sweden: 0.111086 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 26    Dominican Republic: 0.110497 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 27    Australia: 0.099552 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 28    Romania: 0.0895656 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 29    Ecuador: 0.0748279 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 30    Japan: 0.062786 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 31    Canada: 0.0609663 deaths per 1 million peo  
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/mor_oth_mis_dur_sur_and_med_car_percap-surgical-medical-care-per-capita

Unintentional cut, puncture, perforation, haemorrhage during medical care (per capita) (most recent) by country
# 1    Iceland: 3.36999 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 2    Estonia: 3.00075 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 3    Costa Rica: 1.49402 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 4    Slovenia: 1.4918 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 5    Latvia: 1.31004 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 6    Denmark: 1.10457 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 7    New Zealand: 0.991326 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 8    Hungary: 0.79944 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 9    Moldova: 0.673401 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 10    Austria: 0.488699 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 11    Germany: 0.460992 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 12    Cuba: 0.440645 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 13    United States: 0.432821 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 14    Kyrgyzstan: 0.388651 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 15    Dominican Republic: 0.331492 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 16    Israel: 0.318624 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 17    Panama: 0.318471 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 18    Uruguay: 0.29274 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 19    Lithuania: 0.278009 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 20    Poland: 0.25935 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 21    Puerto Rico: 0.255689 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 22    Croatia: 0.22242 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 23    Norway: 0.217723 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 24    Czech Republic: 0.195293 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 25    Finland: 0.191461 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 26    Slovakia: 0.184128 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 27    Nicaragua: 0.182983 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 28    Netherlands: 0.182849 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 29    Mexico: 0.178903 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 30    Australia: 0.149328 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 31    Japan: 0.13342 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 32    Egypt: 0.11612 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 33    Sweden: 0.111086 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 34    Thailand: 0.109058 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 35    Korea, South: 0.102794 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 36    Argentina: 0.101168 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 37    United Kingdom: 0.0992704 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 38    Canada: 0.0914495 deaths per 1 million peo  
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/mor_uni_cut_pun_per_hae_dur_med_car_percap-during-medical-care-per-capita

Sequelae with surgical and medical care as external cause (per capita) (most recent) by country
# 1    Luxembourg: 2.13415 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 2    Estonia: 1.50038 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 3    Netherlands: 1.27994 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 4    Israel: 1.27449 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 5    Slovenia: 0.99453 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 6    Austria: 0.610874 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 7    Latvia: 0.436681 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 8    Kuwait: 0.428082 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 9    Nicaragua: 0.365965 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 10    Ecuador: 0.299312 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 11    Australia: 0.298656 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 12    United States: 0.28742 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 13    Argentina: 0.278213 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 14    Lithuania: 0.278009 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 15    Puerto Rico: 0.255689 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 16    Croatia: 0.22242 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 17    Sweden: 0.222173 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 18    Norway: 0.217723 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 19    Finland: 0.191461 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 20    Korea, South: 0.185029 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 21    Slovakia: 0.184128 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 22    Brazil: 0.171939 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 23    Germany: 0.157708 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 24    Paraguay: 0.15753 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 25    Egypt: 0.11612 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 26    Dominican Republic: 0.110497 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 27    Japan: 0.109875 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 28    Poland: 0.10374 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 29    Hungary: 0.09993 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 30    Czech Republic: 0.0976467 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 31    Cuba: 0.088129 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 32    Chile: 0.0625743 deaths per 1 million peo  
# 33    Canada: 0.0609663 deaths per 1 million peo  
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/mor_seq_wit_sur_and_med_car_as_ext_cau_percap-care-external-cause-per-capita