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Title: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2008, 06:43:59 PM
EXHAUSTIVE REVIEW:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/higherpowerm3muscleboundreview.html

I'm thrilled with the results after only 10 days!  I benched 185X23 and 185X21 on Monday at the second and fifth sets respectively.  I went from three crap form/bounced reps with 410 last week to six of the same using 405 this week:

Day 2:



Day 10:



The M3 product page (http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-1881271-10409943?url=http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/m3.html) is so absurd (Ala MuscleTech, claims that M3 is superior to M1T and steroids, LOL), that I was going to give M3 at most an A, but I'm leaning towards A+ so far!

I will update that link later today.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2008, 06:46:45 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 21, 2008, 06:47:43 PM
Matt looks wasted in that picture.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2008, 06:48:38 PM
Matt looks wasted in that picture.

I do actually...but I never drink a drop.  I'm pretty straight edge.  Actually, I'm kind of like a monk, LOL.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2008, 06:49:03 PM
Matt looks wasted in that picture.


Muscle "wasting"?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2008, 06:52:02 PM
I gotta ask man (no offense tho)

with Phil Heath and Peter Putnam around why on earth are you in a tank top!??!?!!? (a "wife beater" no less)

i would have thrown my shirt on ASAP
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2008, 06:53:10 PM
I gotta ask man (no offense tho)

with Phil Heath and Peter Putnam around why on earth are you in a tank top!??!?!!? (a "wife beater" no less)

i would have thrown my shirt on ASAP

LOL...it was just after the gym, but point taken.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on May 21, 2008, 06:53:45 PM
Matt, how tall are you and you look like a greek mother.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2008, 06:55:45 PM
Matt, how tall are you and you look like a greek mother.

No need to be mean to me.  Why are you being so mean to me?  :-[

Just kidding.

I'm 5'9, although I do deadlifts with no shoes and I find heavy deadlifts tend to make people look shorter than they are.  My head is also way to big for my body and looks weird.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 21, 2008, 06:58:54 PM
I do actually...but I never drink a drop.  I'm pretty straight edge.  Actually, I'm kind of like a monk, LOL.
Ah, Matty, don't be so hard on yourself. You more than make up for it in your antisemitism (albeit of a 'scientific' nature).  ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2008, 07:01:20 PM
Ah, Matty, don't be so hard on yourself. You more than make up for it in your antisemitism (albeit of a 'scientific' nature).  ;)

Yes, maybe so, LOL.  Actually, if you wanted to really bear with me, I don't think anyone would find my antisemitism unreasonable.  I have mounds and mounds of evidence on the topic.  I'm really not a redneck.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Lift Studios on May 21, 2008, 07:02:17 PM
I'm really not a redneck.
You just play one on getbig.  :-\
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: whateva on May 21, 2008, 07:04:35 PM
No need to be mean to me.  Why are you being so mean to me?  :-[

Just kidding.

I'm 5'9, although I do deadlifts with no shoes and I find heavy deadlifts tend to make people look shorter than they are.  My head is also way to big for my body and looks weird.
Man ,your head is not to big for your body ,
                                                               PS:    I think you are beautiful  .
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2008, 07:06:23 PM
You just play one on getbig.  :-\

No, but people like you who are completely blind to reality would say I am.  ::)

Of course you have NOTHING but attacks in rebuttal to what I say.  Unlike you, I have mounds of historical evidence.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2008, 07:08:14 PM




  My head is also way to big for my body and looks weird.


   not true!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 21, 2008, 07:09:49 PM
Matt presents some good points, but goes too far at times.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: GetItOnNY on May 21, 2008, 07:21:42 PM
Wow, impressive 15" arms.I had 15 1/2" arms when I was a junior in high school.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: haider on May 21, 2008, 07:27:15 PM
No, but people like you who are completely blind to reality would say I am.  ::)

Of course you have NOTHING but attacks in rebuttal to what I say.  Unlike you, I have mounds of historical evidence.
Matt, simple question, if u are so convinced of this yourself and claim to have "mounds" of evidence, then why did you let woten write some of your posts?

Also, don't you think it will hurt your business to be so out spoken about it?

It also seems that you have let this recent 'discvoery' of yours affect your personality, you come off as more of an arrogant asshole at times.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 21, 2008, 07:31:24 PM
Matt, simple question, if u are so convinced of this yourself and claim to have "mounds" of evidence, then why did you let woten write some of your posts?

Also, don't you think it will hurt your business to be so out spoken about it?

It also seems that you have let this recent 'discvoery' of yours affect your personality, you come off as more of an arrogant asshole at times.

Well.. He's fallen in line with a certain way of thinking. Kinda like a neo-nazi.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: m8 on May 21, 2008, 07:38:22 PM
You're not bouncing the weight enough :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: wes on May 21, 2008, 07:39:33 PM
Matt,you`re a strong guy,but I guaranteee you will fuck up your back sooner or later using that kind of "form" on deads.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 21, 2008, 07:51:34 PM
Matt, simple question, if u are so convinced of this yourself and claim to have "mounds" of evidence, then why did you let woten write some of your posts?

Also, don't you think it will hurt your business to be so out spoken about it?

It also seems that you have let this recent 'discvoery' of yours affect your personality, you come off as more of an arrogant asshole at times.
queers with low selfesteem are often attracted to extremist points of view
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 21, 2008, 08:03:36 PM
queers with low selfesteem are often attracted to extremist points of view

Matt's hero.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/mtg1337/gtfo-1.gif)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2008, 08:05:13 PM
Matt, simple question, if u are so convinced of this yourself and claim to have "mounds" of evidence, then why did you let woten write some of your posts?

Also, don't you think it will hurt your business to be so out spoken about it?

It also seems that you have let this recent 'discvoery' of yours affect your personality, you come off as more of an arrogant asshole at times.

Woten helped me with some of my posts because he can't post here.  I hope Ron let's him back.

Did it hurt my business?  Not at all!  Sales went up 30% ever since I've started being so outspoken.  Although I have been posting a lot of supplement reviews lately also.  I can explain this one: you cannot break whatever makes people who they are (it's genetic).  No amount of politically correct indoctrination will ever break the fundamental nature of the way people are.  This is why after years of indoctrination, multiculturalism is not even close to the accepted norm.  The reality is, most AGREE with me, but would never dare speak about that publicly.  The ones who are vocal about it are of course the ones who oppose it.  My racialist (NOT racist, look it up) views speak for a broader aspect of my personality: I'm HONEST.  It's the same quality which results in my explaining above that M3's product information was bordering on fraud.  People APPRECIATE that.

A few people come back with Pavlovian responses like "You're racist", but for every one comment like that, I get five private e-mails from people agreeing with me.  The reality is, people are just afraid of speaking their minds because we are made to feel guilty about it through the politically correct dogma we are subjected to.  It's not changing the way people think, though.  ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Red Hook on May 21, 2008, 08:05:49 PM
EXHAUSTIVE REVIEW:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/higherpowerm3muscleboundreview.html

I'm thrilled with the results after only 10 days!  I benched 185X23 and 185X21 on Monday at the second and fifth sets respectively.  I went from three crap form/bounced reps with 410 last week to six of the same using 405 this week:

Day 2:



Day 10:



The M3 product page (http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-1881271-10409943?url=http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/m3.html) is so absurd (ALA MuscleTech, claims that M3 is superior to M1T and steroids, LOL), that I was going to give M3 at most an A, but I'm leaning towards A+ so far!

I will update that link later today.

lots of factors could have contributed to your extra 2-3 reps, diet being the biggest factor.  How do we know that all variables remained contant.

based on what you eat, drink (caffeine) 1 hour +-  before working out your strength/stamina varies.

you have proven nothing.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 21, 2008, 08:12:07 PM
Woten helped me with some of my posts because he can't post here.  I hope Ron let's him back.

Did it hurt my business?  Not at all!  Sales went up 30% ever since I've started being so outspoken.  Although I have been posting a lot of supplement reviews lately also.  I can explain this one: you cannot break whatever makes people who they are (it's genetic).  No amount of politically correct indoctrination will ever break the fundamental nature of the way people are.  This is why after years of indoctrination, multiculturalism is not even close to the accepted norm.  The reality is, most AGREE with me, but would never dare speak about that publicly.  The ones who are vocal about it are of course the ones who oppose it.  My racialist (NOT racist, look it up) views speak for a broader aspect of my personality: I'm HONEST.  It's the same quality which results in my explaining above that M3's product information was bordering on fraud.  People APPRECIATE that.

A few people come back with Pavlovian responses like "You're racist", but for every one comment like that, I get five private e-mails from people agreeing with me.  The reality is, people are just afraid of speaking their minds because we are made to feel guilty about it through the politically correct dogma we are subjected to.  It's not changing the way people think, though.  ;)
woten got shit canned by ron?  what did he do, nothing?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2008, 08:23:05 PM
lots of factors could have contributed to your extra 2-3 reps, diet being the biggest factor.  How do we know that all variables remained contant.

based on what you eat, drink (caffeine) 1 hour +-  before working out your strength/stamina varies.

you have proven nothing.

True, but I would be more inclined to agree with that if I only improved by one rep.  All variables were pretty well constant, almost exact.  If by the end of the cycle I hit eight reps, I will definitely attribute it to the M3 and Higher Power stack.  Also, I did 185X23 when usually 16-17 is my max.  I also feel A LOT better.  My mood and overall well being are definitely up.  Although I usually feel pretty good, these supplements are definitely giving me a kick that I can feel.  The Beta Alanine Plus by Higher Power is also easily in my top five for pump enducing supplements I have tried thus far:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/higherpowerbetaalanineplusreview.html

Higher Power NO-XS SUCKS compared to Beta Alanine Plus.  BAP only costs FOUR CENTS more per day, so I would recommend it over NO-XS by far.  NO-XS is average compared to other NO products.  After trying beta-alanine, I will never go back to NO.

I will keep updating that link daily, but so far, I am very impressed.  I don't think I've been this impressed since I used Gaspari SIZEON, although I would not say the HP stack is quite as good as SIZEON taken standalone.  I shall see how this turns out though.

CON: M3 Muscle Bound is recommended in eight week cycles followed by two weeks off but only comes in a 15 day supply tub for $29.99.  Not cool.  The option to buy in larger quantity should be available.

woten got shit canned by ron?  what did he do, nothing?

Yep, lol.  He is not racist, just racialist.  If you actually read his posts in their entirety, you will find him to be an extremely intelligent and well informed person.  He understands concepts far beyond the superficial level and can decipher them in hugely encompassing and fundamental ways.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: haider on May 21, 2008, 08:48:03 PM
Woten helped me with some of my posts because he can't post here.  I hope Ron let's him back.

Did it hurt my business?  Not at all!  Sales went up 30% ever since I've started being so outspoken.  Although I have been posting a lot of supplement reviews lately also.  I can explain this one: you cannot break whatever makes people who they are (it's genetic).  No amount of politically correct indoctrination will ever break the fundamental nature of the way people are.  This is why after years of indoctrination, multiculturalism is not even close to the accepted norm.  The reality is, most AGREE with me, but would never dare speak about that publicly.  The ones who are vocal about it are of course the ones who oppose it.  My racialist (NOT racist, look it up) views speak for a broader aspect of my personality: I'm HONEST.  It's the same quality which results in my explaining above that M3's product information was bordering on fraud.  People APPRECIATE that.

A few people come back with Pavlovian responses like "You're racist", but for every one comment like that, I get five private e-mails from people agreeing with me.  The reality is, people are just afraid of speaking their minds because we are made to feel guilty about it through the politically correct dogma we are subjected to.  It's not changing the way people think, though.  ;)
Matt Cocksucker (in good fun), the problem IMO is that I fear racialism is basically RACISM with "intellectual" backing, i.e. you start out with a subjective presumption (make that assumption) about the other race that is present due to earlier influences. From here on out anything that 'supports' this is taken as proof of your so-called "racialist" views.

But assume still that you did arrive at the conclusion through objective study... why be an asshole about it? whatever happened to being a good human being and empathising with people? Do you put your "honesty" above all of this? Is honesty a virtue anymore?  :-\
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2008, 09:06:10 PM
Matt Cocksucker (in good fun), the problem IMO is that I fear racialism is basically RACISM with "intellectual" backing, i.e. you start out with a subjective presumption (make that assumption) about the other race that is present due to earlier influences. From here on out anything that 'supports' this is taken as proof of your so-called "racialist" views.

But assume still that you did arrive at the conclusion through objective study... why be an asshole about it? whatever happened to being a good human being and empathising with people? Do you put your "honesty" above all of this? Is honesty a virtue anymore?  :-\

Fair points!  I understand what you mean about racialism coming across as being racism packaged differently, but that is not the case.

I am of the belief that it is not beneficial that we lie about racial and gender equality because it only superficially deals with issues which are far deeper than mere physical ones.

It is not an issue of skin colour.  That is oversimplifying a complex social issue with a simplistic reactionary analysis. It has to do with human nature and the fact that human beings are innately tribal ones. It has to do with the very REAL differences that exist between race and gender. Physical, intellectual, cultural, and religious. Different races who have different political doctrines and social ideologies.  It's these REAL differences which create conflict on all levels when people of one tribe are forced to mix with people of another.

These issues weren't addressed before, antisemitism rose, hit critical mass, and then there was Hitler.  Ignoring these issues are not beneficial to any group of people, Jewish or otherwise.  Any racial issue should not be ignored or superficially masked.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 21, 2008, 09:08:24 PM
Fair points!  I understand what you mean about racialism coming across as being racism packaged differently, but that is not the case.

I am of the belief that it is not beneficial that we lie about racial and gender equality because it only superficially deals with issues which are far deeper than merely physical ones.

It is not an issue of skin colour.  That is oversimplifying a complex social issue with a simplistic reactionary analysis. It has to do with human nature and the fact that human beings are innately tribal ones. It has to do with the very REAL differences that exist between race and gender. Physical, intellectual, cultural, and religious. Different races who have different political doctrines and social ideologies.  It's these REAL differences which create conflict on all levels when people of one tribe are forced to mix with people of another.

These issues weren't addressed before, antisemitism rose, hit critical mass, and then there was Hitler.  Ignoring these issues are not beneficial to any group of people.  Not just antisemitism, but any race issue should not be ignored or superficially masked.
is that why you have sex like a bonobo monkey
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: haider on May 21, 2008, 09:10:38 PM
ok matt, thank you for the response.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2008, 09:12:20 PM
is that why you have sex like a bonobo monkey

I'm just waiting for a girl who is special to me.  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on May 21, 2008, 09:13:58 PM
looking great matt!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2008, 09:16:16 PM
ok matt, thank you for the response.

No problem.  Intelligent people who are willing to patiently engage in rational discourse with me do tend to find me quite reasonable, almost across the board.

Back to the Higher Power stack, I would not include:

- CoQ10
- Echinacea/Goldenseal

The CoQ10 is a little redundant, and I just added the E/G to make this a huge arsenal of Higher Power products all consumed and reviewed in one fell swoop.  I feel great though, but I would imagine I would feel just as good without these.  Awesome stack so far and I give props to Higher Power for surpassing my expectations.  I will say when a product sucks in my reviews, which is why I will recommend against Higher Power NO-XS.  At the time I reviewed it, I had not been fully introduced to beta-alanine yet.  I will never go back to NO, except for samples to review.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: rocket on May 21, 2008, 09:16:49 PM
Yep, lol.  He is not racist, just racialist.  If you actually read his posts in their entirety, you will find him to be an extremely intelligent and well informed person.  He understands concepts far beyond the superficial level and can decipher them in hugely encompassing and fundamental ways.

Woten doesn't get banned for discussing racial issues.   His other modus operandi is far more contentious (yet thoroughly entertaining).  As often as he simply debates racial issues, he is found dispatching excellently amusing jibes most often towards the "white challenged" members of the board (unacceptable to spoilsports with no sense of sticks and stones mentality - hence the complaints and his numerous removals).

The truth is, he's too good at this type of thing and the typically weak minded rabble here are quick to realise they have little in answer but to report posts ::)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: gordiano on May 21, 2008, 09:45:52 PM
I do actually...but I never drink a drop.  I'm pretty straight edge.  Actually, I'm kind of like a monk, LOL.

You like young boys?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: rocket on May 21, 2008, 10:05:58 PM
You like young boys?

Doesn't everybody?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: LurkyLurker on May 21, 2008, 10:16:23 PM
You do realize, don't you, that the lead chemist who formulated 'Higher Power' is a Jew, and that the name refers to the higher power of the Torah. Word has it that the product is Kosher parve and actually contains dessicated peyot clippings from the head of a Hassidic Rabbi of the Lubavitch sect.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2008, 10:44:46 PM
You do realize, don't you, that the lead chemist who formulated 'Higher Power' is a Jew, and that the name refers to the higher power of the Torah. Word has it that the product is Kosher parve and actually contains dessicated peyot clippings from the head of a Hassidic Rabbi of the Lubavitch sect.

 :-X
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Method101 on May 21, 2008, 11:26:43 PM
Matt is a good example of

shit form+big weights does not = muscle growth.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2008, 11:33:06 PM
Matt is a good example of

shit form+big weights does not = muscle growth.

Maybe so, but I attribute it more to my shit diet.

Form is not bad here with decent weight:

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on May 21, 2008, 11:34:14 PM
I dont understand you man a bodybuilder or a power lifting.......
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2008, 11:39:04 PM
I dont understand you man a bodybuilder or a power lifting.......

Are you saying it's unusual for guys who weigh 180 to bench 380?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Mussolini on May 22, 2008, 12:13:56 AM
Fair points!  I understand what you mean about racialism coming across as being racism packaged differently, but that is not the case.

I am of the belief that it is not beneficial that we lie about racial and gender equality because it only superficially deals with issues which are far deeper than mere physical ones.

It is not an issue of skin colour.  That is oversimplifying a complex social issue with a simplistic reactionary analysis. It has to do with human nature and the fact that human beings are innately tribal ones. It has to do with the very REAL differences that exist between race and gender. Physical, intellectual, cultural, and religious. Different races who have different political doctrines and social ideologies.  It's these REAL differences which create conflict on all levels when people of one tribe are forced to mix with people of another.

These issues weren't addressed before, antisemitism rose, hit critical mass, and then there was Hitler.  Ignoring these issues are not beneficial to any group of people, Jewish or otherwise.  Any racial issue should not be ignored or superficially masked.


I take it you are not studying History at University if you think racial Issues were not addressed until Adolf Hitler came to power?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 12:26:23 AM

I take it you are not studying History at University if you think racial Issues were not addressed until Adolf Hitler came to power?

What I'm saying is that the problems that Hitler's army revolted against did not just happen overnight.  The Jewish holocaust was a long time coming.  Rest assured, if not by Hitler, the rise in antisemitism would have resulted in a genocide just as large at another point in time.

There were, you know, a few red flags along the way for the Jews:

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/HistoryJewishPersecution.htm
http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~andrew/judaism/timeline.htm


If a US city was blown off the map tomorrow, I would not say that is justified.  But given the complacency of US citizens to not revolt against the Bush administration (and more specifically, his Jewish puppet masters), would you be SURPRISED if it happened?  I wouldn't.  Whether you like it or not, the USA policing the entire world is causing them to collect A LOT of enemies.  Don't be so naive to think the USA won't be attacked for that.  That's similar to how I view the holocaust.  I don't justify it, but it WAS bound to happen eventually and whether that is a nice fact to acknowledge or not, that is reality.

Likewise, if a Canadian city was attacked tomorrow, I would not be surprised, because we are also in bed with Bush's puppet masters through our Harper conservative government.  Not to the same extent as in US politics, but Canada is not devoid of responsibility and Canadians should not be surprised if we are attacked also.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: turner98 on May 22, 2008, 02:10:47 AM
I'm interested at the way Matt's head bounces on the third rep, in the first video. Looks pretty rough :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: flagadajones on May 22, 2008, 03:22:30 AM
matt, lifting that kind of weights when you are a natural skinny midget who can't gain muscle to save his life makes no sense at all.  Is this to impress people?


You're not impressing anyone here, you just look like a very frustrated #### with small man syndrome.
The form in the  videos is just...well I m saying a prayer for your spinal cord. If you can't hold the weights, why even lift that amount in the first place?


You're the smallest skinniest little man I ever seen, and you're the best proof that supplements don't work.
Pretty funny for someone who hosts a website dedicaced to reviewing supps.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: rocket on May 22, 2008, 03:26:49 AM
matt, lifting that kind of weights when you are a natural skinny midget who can't gain muscle to save his life makes no sense at all.  Is this to impress people?


You're not impressing anyone here, you just look like a very frustrated #### with small man syndrome.
The form in the  videos is just...well I m saying a prayer for your spinal cord. If you can't hold the weights, why even lift that amount in the first place?


You're the smallest skinniest little man I ever seen, and you're the best proof that supplements don't work.
Pretty funny for someone who hosts a website dedicaced to reviewing supps.


Only someone who was larger but weaker would say that.  His reps were clean.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: LatsMcGee on May 22, 2008, 03:30:39 AM
Matt C are there any Jews that live in your Village?  Have you met any Mexicans yet?  Is your Igloo warm?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: flagadajones on May 22, 2008, 03:30:45 AM
Only someone who was larger but weaker would say that.  His reps were clean.

look at his legs and feet positioning... tell me this is a correct form ? And the general unbalenced movement of his body...he's just destroying his body with weights way too heavy for his body to handle, and it doesn't even result in muscle growth =  epic fail .

The only thing he's doing is destroying his body and looking like a fool for everyone to see.

Typical example of small man syndrome at work.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: jason armstrong on May 22, 2008, 03:36:08 AM
I gotta ask man (no offense tho)

with Phil Heath and Peter Putnam around why on earth are you in a tank top!??!?!!? (a "wife beater" no less)

i would have thrown my shirt on ASAP
at least matt don't look like a clown....like put and heath do in those oversized shirts... ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on May 22, 2008, 03:41:07 AM
Are you saying it's unusual for guys who weigh 180 to bench 380?
no its  unusal for guys like you a bodybuilder not have a great build at 180lbs and/or a powerlifter guy like you with bad form, but hey yeah your strong man give you props for that.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: jason armstrong on May 22, 2008, 03:41:53 AM
Hey matt why don't you go ahead and start a test cycle?Quit wasting money on those worthless supplements...
You train pretty heavy and basic if you really blasted the good food you could add a good 20 lbs with your first cycle.

i don't know about the hitler stuff kinda reminds me of anus....remember he can deadlift 405 for at least 50 reps! Cause he claimed he deadlifted 225 for 113 reps all the time!!! :o ;D :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: rocket on May 22, 2008, 03:44:50 AM
look at his legs and feet positioning... tell me this is a correct form ? And the general unbalenced movement of his body...he's just destroying his body with weights way too heavy for his body to handle, and it doesn't even result in muscle growth =  epic fail .

The only thing he's doing is destroying his body and looking like a fool for everyone to see.

Typical example of small man syndrome at work.



You're grasping at straws attempting to contend that what he is doing is bad form.  It isn't perfect form but isn't all that bad either.  Considering it is around his maximum, its to be expected.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: BlueDevil on May 22, 2008, 03:45:19 AM
EXHAUSTIVE REVIEW:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/higherpowerm3muscleboundreview.html

I'm thrilled with the results after only 10 days!  I benched 185X23 and 185X21 on Monday at the second and fifth sets respectively.  I went from three crap form/bounced reps with 410 last week to six of the same using 405 this week:

Day 2:



Day 10:




sorry dude ..... FAIL  :'(

different socks , different trousers
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on May 22, 2008, 03:45:55 AM
You're grasping at straws attempting to contend that what he is doing is bad form.  It isn't perfect form but isn't all that bad either.  Considering it is around his maximum, its to be expected.
hey I do gay for pay also, but I dont have bad form near my max.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: rocket on May 22, 2008, 03:50:21 AM
hey I do gay for pay also, but I dont have bad form near my max.

It wasn't bad form.  Matt is clearly in your head and you obviously need something to criticise him for.

Personally I'd ping him on bouncing deadlifts before I complained about that bench, if that is your wish.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: flagadajones on May 22, 2008, 03:56:41 AM
It wasn't bad form.  Matt is clearly in your head and you obviously need something to criticise him for.

Personally I'd ping him on bouncing deadlifts before I complained about that bench, if that is your wish.
"matt" isn't in "our head", but you're sure on his nuts for some reasons.

We're just criticizing what he brought to the board by himself, he wanted attention, he got it; IF YOU DONT WANT PEOPLE TO CRITICIZE YOU THEN SIMPLY DONT FUCKING POST PICTURES OR VIDEOS OF YOUR SORRY ASS ON THE INTERNET.

Especially when you're one of the worst looking natural bodybuilder and review useless uneffective supps . Most delusional bodybuilding "fan" ever.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on May 22, 2008, 04:06:00 AM
It wasn't bad form.  Matt is clearly in your head and you obviously need something to criticise him for.

Personally I'd ping him on bouncing deadlifts before I complained about that bench, if that is your wish.
blowjobs are easy on the bench try attacking from the back during the squats its pretty tough you need to maintain strick form on the squat, but bench sucks literally so any form will do.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: no one on May 22, 2008, 04:06:47 AM
lots of factors could have contributed to your extra 2-3 reps, diet being the biggest factor.  How do we know that all variables remained contant.

based on what you eat, drink (caffeine) 1 hour +-  before working out your strength/stamina varies.

you have proven nothing.

agreed.

that and dropping the weight from thigh height to catch the bounce at the bottom was a nice touch also.

here's an idea, matt- take your video camera to the gym. load the bar with 405. assume position. pull up weight. lower weight with control. pause at bottom. then post video of the 2 reps you get.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 22, 2008, 04:13:59 AM
my back hurt just from watching that!

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: rocket on May 22, 2008, 04:17:51 AM
"matt" isn't in "our head", but you're sure on his nuts for some reasons.

We're just criticizing what he brought to the board by himself, he wanted attention, he got it; IF YOU DONT WANT PEOPLE TO CRITICIZE YOU THEN SIMPLY DONT FUCKING POST PICTURES OR VIDEOS OF YOUR SORRY ASS ON THE INTERNET.

Especially when you're one of the worst looking natural bodybuilder and review useless uneffective supps . Most delusional bodybuilding "fan" ever.

Nah, I'm just being pragmatic.  I can see that you are heinously exaggerating your point to the realm of delusion and I have to wonder .. why?  Either you have poor judgement or your opinion of him is clouding aforementioned judgement.  My guess is you're weaker than him and your jealousy makes you want to find anything to make yourself feel better.  In this case, you're talking shit :) 
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on May 22, 2008, 04:22:04 AM
Nah, I'm just being pragmatic.  I can see that you are heinously exaggerating your point to the realm of delusion and I have to wonder .. why?  Either you have poor judgement or your opinion of him is clouding aforementioned judgement.  My guess is you're weaker than him and your jealousy makes you want to find anything to make yourself feel better.  In this case, you're talking shit :) 
just becuase you think he is, "cute" with his hair cut does not mean you should defend him.....
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: rocket on May 22, 2008, 04:29:12 AM
just becuase you think he is, "cute" with his hair cut does not mean you should defend him.....

I'm not defending Matt, I'm defending the truth. 

The truth is, the bench was fine, the deadlift wasn't any good.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: flagadajones on May 22, 2008, 04:43:57 AM
Nah, I'm just being pragmatic.  I can see that you are heinously exaggerating your point to the realm of delusion and I have to wonder .. why?  Either you have poor judgement or your opinion of him is clouding aforementioned judgement.  My guess is you're weaker than him and your jealousy makes you want to find anything to make yourself feel better.  In this case, you're talking shit :) 

Matt like a lot of delusional natural bodybuilders, is going for the "powerlifter/pro bodybuilder" look & attitude and acts like he's ten times bigger and better than he actually is.

But for pure natural ectomorphs like him, it is ridiculous to pretend and act like you're more than just this; a natural ectomorphe.

Unless you use steroids, you're never ever going to look like a pro bodybuilder or even a powerlifter; you're just lying to yourself and making a fool of yourself in the general public eye.

Natural ectomorphes should only go for the healthy and ripped look, and should be content with it, it is absolutely delusional to act like you're something you aren't, genetically speaking.


Most people like matt are just unhappy with their genetics and their body, and envy those who are better gifted by nature to build muscle mass, mesomorphes and endomorphs...too bad matt is just a hard gaining ectomorph.

Instead of living in a dreamworld where he percieves himself as something he isn't, he should go for the chiseled look and stop with the "powerlifter" lifts bullcrap, and stop wasting his money into buying and reviewing useless powders.

He's the perfect poster boy of the delusional pro bodybuilding fan.

I'm sure pro bodybuilders are laughing at people like matt.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 22, 2008, 04:49:46 AM
What I'm saying is that the problems that Hitler's army revolted against did not just happen overnight.  The Jewish holocaust was a long time coming.  Rest assured, if not by Hitler, the rise in antisemitism would have resulted in a genocide just as large at another point in time.


That's a pretty big assumption you are making here, Matt. I could just as well say that it is inevitable that the masses will rise and annihilate all those who wear clown shoes...just a matter of time.  ;)

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 22, 2008, 05:10:20 AM
hahah epic angry "Layne Norten"ish drop of hte barbell at the end

stick with rack deads-----if you're going to work your back, work your back------that form on deads will fuck you up

I stick with rack deads------I figure do legs on leg day------------plus Im taller so my body type isnt suited for whole deads

heed this advice bro----it will save your back in the future

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: valhalla on May 22, 2008, 05:19:49 AM
I liked the squirming of the feet and turning the head from side to side on the deadlift  ;D
I gotta go take some Advil just from looking at that "deadlift".
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: SweetMuscles on May 22, 2008, 05:31:44 AM
he has absolutely NOTHING in his boxers. no bulge at all. no penis or balls. I can tell you that his dick is way below average , probably explains all the anger and blame

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=99475.0;attach=172403;image)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: flagadajones on May 22, 2008, 05:32:30 AM
he has absolutely NOTHING in his boxers. no bulge at all. no penis or balls. I can tell you that his dick is way below average , probably explains all the anger and blame

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=99475.0;attach=172403;image)
one thing is sure, he doesn't enjoy training abs.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: io856 on May 22, 2008, 05:37:24 AM
From what we can see Matt C is such a loser.

Poor bloke.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 22, 2008, 06:51:01 AM
he has absolutely NOTHING in his boxers. no bulge at all. no penis or balls. I can tell you that his dick is way below average , probably explains all the anger and blame

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=99475.0;attach=172403;image)
You know who else had "all the anger and blame?"  ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: chester_bbb on May 22, 2008, 08:02:30 AM
You know who else had "all the anger and blame?"  ;)

 :D

Hey Matt how's about more pics of your sister.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 22, 2008, 08:10:36 AM
The lifts are good, even with bad form.

I doubt a lot of you could handle those weights.  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 22, 2008, 08:17:27 AM
I'm not defending Matt, I'm defending the truth. 

The truth is, the bench was fine, the deadlift wasn't any good.

Poor form, but he got 6 reps with it. If he didn't complete the reps, then I would see your point.

The thing is that you have so many little queers on here who act as though they're world class naturals and powerlifters. When someone with a decent physique actually posts pictures or videos, people have hardly anything positive to say. The bar can't be set that high for someone who's a natural, because if it were that easy you'd have everyone trying to whore their pics and lifts.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 22, 2008, 09:31:51 AM
:D

Hey Matt how's about more pics of your sister.
LOL. Now that 'shop goes directly to Getbig's best pic thread. Do not stop at GO. Do not collect $200.  :D

/wonder if there is a matt pic with his right arm raised?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: kmhphoto on May 22, 2008, 09:37:41 AM

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=99475.0;attach=172403;image)

That photo proves that despite what MissC may say, Jewish people do not rule the world of bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 10:50:36 AM
matt, lifting that kind of weights when you are a natural skinny midget who can't gain muscle to save his life makes no sense at all.  Is this to impress people?

I'm really not that short.  ;D  Orville Burke is my height and someone mentioned him in the "Best lat spread on tall BB" thread:

Orville Burke.  Huge lat spead!

 ;D

At the least, I'm tall enough to be a viable pro if I had the genetics for it:

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/2007mrolympia/5.jpg)

Especially when you're one of the worst looking natural bodybuilder and review useless uneffective supps .

Whoa, slow down there.  Say what you want about me, but I'm sincerely telling you I think that the Higher Power stack has worked wonders for me so far.  I feel like I'm improving on all counts, although I have not checked my weight since the first day.

here's an idea, matt- take your video camera to the gym. load the bar with 405. assume position. pull up weight. lower weight with control. pause at bottom. then post video of the 2 reps you get.

In the original post, my point was NOT to say that was a legit 405X6.  In fact, I made it clear the form was not great and with bounced reps.  My point was that I IMPROVED by three bounced reps this week with no changes except my supplement stack.  Is that not some proof the supplements are working?  That and my 185X21 bench on the fifth set are making me feel that way.

Your video idea is pretty good, although I imagine even if I posted that people would still hate on it, lol.  ;D

he has absolutely NOTHING in his boxers. no bulge at all. no penis or balls. I can tell you that his dick is way below average , probably explains all the anger and blame

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=99475.0;attach=172403;image)

My penis isn't small.  Notice how I do verify all my claims, but this one, I don't know, LOL.  Come on now, I'm half Italian.  As Jade said, there are show-ers and growers.  Final outcum is all that matters.  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: m8 on May 22, 2008, 10:51:56 AM
You can't judge a man's erect penis size looking at his completely flaccid penis.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 10:56:58 AM
You can't judge a man's erect penis size looking at his completely flaccid penis.

That's exactly it.  I'm not having sex with women with my penis in a flaccid state.  In addition to size (like physiques, bigger IS better, at least to a point), women also consider the aesthetics of the penis, how attracted they are to their partner and his skill level.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Purple Aki on May 22, 2008, 10:59:56 AM
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/2007mrolympia/5.jpg)

Matt, did you share your views on race and IQ with the overmuscled negro?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 11:05:40 AM
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/2007mrolympia/5.jpg)

Matt, did you share your views on race and IQ with the overmuscled negro?

Phil is a super nice guy and he's smart also.  He has green eyes so either he has contact lenses or he is not purely black.  I definitely share my opinions of the various races with people of those races.  Also, don't think I think the Italians/British Islanders can do no wrong, and that constitutes 100% of my genes.

I met a nice black guy yesterday at the gym who was huge.  For a second I stop and think "Well, black people seem the same as white people", but then cognitive dissonance kicks in and I snap out of superficial mode quickly, LOL.  Look, give me logic and evidence an I will believe anything.  But you need to prove it to me - appeals to emotion do not work.  I am friends with people of all races, but that doesn't change my opinions.

Looking back at the deadlift clip, I don't like how I tilt to my left on the second rep.  :-X



Looks painful, although it wasn't.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: flagadajones on May 22, 2008, 11:24:43 AM
That's exactly it.  I'm not having sex with women with my penis in a flaccid state.  In addition to size (like physiques, bigger IS better, at least to a point), women also consider the aesthetics of the penis, how attracted they are to their partner and his skill level.

I supose it's what people with small penis think to make themselves feel better.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 11:27:43 AM
I supose it's what people with small penis think to make themselves feel better.

I've thought about this before - I have no problem at all admitting that my flaccid penis is small.  What difference does it make when my erect penis size is big?  It really doesn't weigh on me, lol.

M3 by Higher Power Nutrition rules!!!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: SweetMuscles on May 22, 2008, 11:38:12 AM
I have no problem at all admitting that my flaccid penis is small.  What difference does it make when my erect penis size is big?

 You have to admit that your penis is small as you have no bulge in your boxers of any description. you have less than a newborn baby. I call bullshit that your erect penis is big, not when it is that small unerect. There has to actually be something there to grow. No other guy , with maybe Howard Stern the exception, has a girl's shape in boxer shorts like you do. You seem like the classic little small dick man with all needledick's complexes.

also, all your catchphrases like 'grower not a shower' and 'it's how you use' are textbook maggotdick.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 11:51:46 AM
You have to admit that your penis is small as you have no bulge in your boxers of any description. you have less than a newborn baby. I call bullshit that your erect penis is big, not when it is that small unerect. There has to actually be something there to grow. No other guy , with maybe Howard Stern the exception, has a girl's shape in boxer shorts like you do. You seem like the classic little small dick man with all needledick's complexes.

also, all your catchphrases like 'grower not a shower' and 'it's how you use' are textbook maggotdick.

It makes no difference even if I posted a picture, since you guys would call my penis small.  daddywaddy's penis is likely in excess of 10 inches, and you guys still called in "skinny" and so on.  There's no winning on this board.  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: SweetMuscles on May 22, 2008, 11:57:03 AM
It makes no difference even if I posted a picture, since you guys would call my penis small.  daddywaddy's penis is likely in excess of 10 inches, and you guys still called in "skinny" and so on.  There's no winning on this board.  ;D

It's not your fault. You are given these things genetically, as I'm sure you know. There is no way that you have a big penis. Just be honest , no one goes from absolute zero in thier boxers to a big dick. Even your balls must be tiny. Just accept the fact that you were given substandard equipment and most men on the planet are more well endowed. Maybe that's why you're so racist?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 04:08:34 PM
It's not your fault. You are given these things genetically, as I'm sure you know. There is no way that you have a big penis. Just be honest , no one goes from absolute zero in thier boxers to a big dick. Even your balls must be tiny. Just accept the fact that you were given substandard equipment and most men on the planet are more well endowed. Maybe that's why you're so racist?

Yes, you know the size of my penis better than I do.  ::)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 04:30:39 PM
your penis is small

Bump.

Higher Power products work!!!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: gordiano on May 22, 2008, 04:32:03 PM
Bump.

Higher Power products work!!!

I think someone wants you to prove them wrong, by having you post your pic..... :-\
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 04:35:51 PM
I think someone wants you to prove them wrong, by having you post your pic..... :-\

I could, but people would still call my penis small.  Proof: daddywaddy's 10"+ penis was posted and people were saying it was small.  :-\

http://www.efbodybuildinggallery.com/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=28512
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Fury on May 22, 2008, 04:40:02 PM
I could, but people would still call my penis small.  Proof: daddywaddy's 10"+ penis was posted and people were saying it was small.  :-\

http://www.efbodybuildinggallery.com/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=28512

Why do you have a pic of DW's penis saved to a gallery? Something you feel like getting off your chest?  ???
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 04:41:18 PM
Why do you have a pic of DW's penis saved to a gallery? Something you feel like getting your chest?  ???

I think DW posted those pictures in that gallery years ago and has since lost the password, hence them remaining online, LOL.

Higher Power Nutrition rules!!!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 22, 2008, 04:44:08 PM
It's not your fault. You are given these things genetically, as I'm sure you know. There is no way that you have a big penis. Just be honest , no one goes from absolute zero in thier boxers to a big dick. Even your balls must be tiny. Just accept the fact that you were given substandard equipment and most men on the planet are more well endowed. Maybe that's why you're so racist?

Why are you actively commenting on another mans penis?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: PRO Chemical on May 22, 2008, 04:59:12 PM
all is possible with higher power CoQ
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 05:04:23 PM
all is possible with higher power CoQ

Hi Ryan Deluca.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 22, 2008, 05:38:21 PM
It's not your fault. You are given these things genetically, as I'm sure you know. There is no way that you have a big penis. Just be honest , no one goes from absolute zero in thier boxers to a big dick. Even your balls must be tiny. Just accept the fact that you were given substandard equipment and most men on the planet are more well endowed. Maybe that's why you're so racist?
of course that's why and dont believe him when he says he has lots of friends of different races.  racists talk shit like that all the time and um....italy is just across the sea from africa so please do tell us there's a fence between africa and italy oh brother  lol  he's as creepy as DA 
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 05:46:06 PM
of course that's why and dont believe him when he says he has lots of friends of different races.  racists talk shit like that all the time and um....italy is just across the sea from africa so please do tell us there's a fence between africa and italy oh brother  lol  he's as creepy as DA 

Racialist, not racist you piss taking slag.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on May 22, 2008, 06:17:58 PM
MATT,
you walk the walk and talk the talk on the boards bro I give you props you show more guts than typical getbiggers.  Though you know the typical getbigger is
-6'6", 280lbs, 25inch biceps
-2 homes both paid for
-all natural
-minmiual of 500k in the bank account

though you are below getbig standards you still post here....I salute you man.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: 240 is Back on May 22, 2008, 06:25:59 PM
  He has green eyes

i've probably met a million people in my life.

I cannot tell you the eye color of any dude I met in all that time.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 06:27:33 PM
MATT,
you walk the walk and talk the talk on the boards bro I give you props you show more guts than typical getbiggers.  Though you know the typical getbigger is
-6'6", 280lbs, 25inch biceps
-2 homes both paid for
-all natural
-minmiual of 500k in the bank account

though you are below getbig standards you still post here....I salute you man.

LOL!  People know I'm being honest.  I verify all my claims which I think should mean something.  I never claimed to be the biggest or strongest and those who have debated with me on my unpopular opinions find me to be reasonable.

And 240 - I pay attention to every detail.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 22, 2008, 06:29:13 PM
MATT,
you walk the walk and talk the talk on the boards bro I give you props you show more guts than typical getbiggers.  Though you know the typical getbigger is
-6'6", 280lbs, 25inch biceps
-2 homes both paid for
-all natural
-minmiual of 500k in the bank account

though you are below getbig standards you still post here....I salute you man.
haha  roll out all the enablers    :)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 22, 2008, 06:32:41 PM
Racialist, not racist you piss taking slag.
LOL. This is the kind of relativist semantics that are used by far-right, white separatist movements. Cloak your racism in all the fancy words you want, or liberally use obfuscating, half-assed pseudo-science, but you're not fooling anyone here. Sorry.   ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 06:40:56 PM
LOL. This is the kind of relativist semantics that are used by far-right, white separatist movements. Cloak your racism in all the fancy words you want, or liberally use obfuscating, half-assed pseudo-science, but you're not fooling anyone here. Sorry.   ;)

In that case, I suppose if you are ever in need of a bone marrow transplant, you can be sure to not allow the doctors to race match it for you, since race doesn't exist after all.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 22, 2008, 06:52:09 PM
Matt C, the rev hagee of getbig.com  :)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 07:55:50 PM
Matt C, the rev hagee of getbig.com  :)

I swear by M3 by Higher Power Nutrition!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 22, 2008, 08:08:41 PM
i've probably met a million people in my life.

I cannot tell you the eye color of any dude I met in all that time.

but when you meet a black person with green eyes---it is striking, like meeting someone with 2 different colors

you remember shit like that


props Matt---I respect your honesty in your posting style
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 08:10:33 PM
but when you meet a black person with green eyes---it is striking, like meeting someone with 2 different colors

you remember shit like that


props Matt---I respect your honesty in your posting style

Thank you.  I think even if people disagree with me on this one issue, they will understand that at least I am one to honestly speak my mind regardless of what the consequences may be.  It still takes courage to do that, as much as anyone may disagree.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 22, 2008, 08:13:10 PM
Thank you.  I think even if people disagree with me on this one issue, they will understand that at least I am one to honestly speak my mind regardless of what the consequences may be.  It still takes courage to say do that, as much as anyone may disagree.
at least you have thought behind your ideas and ideals


something which the majority of people cannot claim
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 08:15:02 PM
at least you have thought behind your ideas and ideals


something which the majority of people cannot claim

I think most on here would be amazed just how much the scientific evidence tends to agree with what I'm saying.  It truly is not a conspiracy for those willing to do the research into the unbiased testing measures I speak about.

This relates back to my supplement reviews in that when they suck, I say it.  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 22, 2008, 08:33:10 PM
I thin Matt is pretty gay.

I'm sure he was razzle-dazzled by Phil Heath's green eyes.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: rocket on May 22, 2008, 09:49:56 PM
Is that not some proof the supplements are working?  That and my 185X21 bench on the fifth set are making me feel that way.

No, it isn't.

I find the Deadlift to be the most volatile, fluctuating exercise done in the gym.  I never know what I'm going to be able to do (within, say 10kgs).  To me they seem to be the pinnacle of exercises that you have to be "up for".   

It is all in your head.  I guarantee you put a pretty girl or someone you want to show off to and you'll get 3 more reps (especially bounced).
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: m8 on May 22, 2008, 09:52:20 PM
He wears contacts  ::)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 22, 2008, 09:53:08 PM
He wears contacts  ::)

Matt was still stunned.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 09:53:19 PM
No, it isn't.

I find the Deadlift to be the most volatile, fluctuating exercise done in the gym.  I never know what I'm going to be able to do (within, say 10kgs).  To me they seem to be the pinnacle of exercises that you have to be "up for".   

It is all in your head.  I guarantee you put a pretty girl or someone you want to show off to and you'll get 3 more reps (especially bounced).

Maybe you're right.

But 185X23 (second set) and 185X21 (fifth set) up from around 16-17 which is normally high for me...lately anyway.  I've lifted 225 for more reps before, but not in the past little bit.

I will keep my supplement review log updated and post as I progress, but if I hit 185X30, I will have no choice but to believe the stack worked.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 22, 2008, 10:16:19 PM
Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!

I'm thrilled with the results after only 10 days!  I benched 185X23 and 185X21 on Monday at the second and fifth sets respectively.  I went from three crap form/bounced reps with 410 last week to six of the same using 405 this week


You're not going to get BB.com to give you money by kissing their ass with this load of BS,  you have to do what 240 did:  destroy their spokesman online every night until they give you cash to chill out.  You don't think he's a "technical advisor" on PBW because Bob likes him, do you?  ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 22, 2008, 10:58:44 PM

You're not going to get BB.com to give you money by kissing their ass with this load of BS,  you have to do what 240 did:  destroy their spokesman online every night until they give you cash to chill out.  You don't think he's a "technical advisor" on PBW because Bob likes him, do you?  ;)

lol.

My relationship with BB.com is very simple.  They give me the supplements and I write detailed reviews about them, good OR bad, and I've written my fair share of complaints so far.  That includes Higher Power NO-XS which I would say (in hindsight, after trying Beta Alanine Plus) is a bit shit to say the least.

I'm reporting my lifts and my mood honestly.  There is no more to it than that.  If things continue to improve I will have no choice but to award the HP stack a high score.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Benny B on May 22, 2008, 11:28:23 PM
queers with low selfesteem are often attracted to extremist points of view
ain't this the truth
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 23, 2008, 12:32:52 AM
ain't this the truth

No need to be so mean to me.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: jr on May 23, 2008, 12:34:21 AM
Matt C, have you ever use legal pro hormone supplements and if so what were the gains like?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 23, 2008, 01:11:03 AM
Matt C, have you ever use legal pro hormone supplements and if so what were the gains like?

I felt SIZEON was spiked with something...

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gasparinutritionsizeonreview.html

I gained 11 pounds in 30 days and was harder.  Very little if any in strength gains though.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 23, 2008, 04:29:52 AM
In that case, I suppose if you are ever in need of a bone marrow transplant, you can be sure to not allow the doctors to race match it for you, since race doesn't exist after all.
Haha. When you have to reach into the bottom of the sack and pull out a bone marrow transplant example to support your argument, you've already lost.  ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Red Hook on May 23, 2008, 04:46:35 AM
I thin Matt is pretty gay.

I'm sure he was razzle-dazzled by Phil Heath's green eyes.

MattC is not gay he just prefers the companionship of men, and if through the course of that bonding a sexual activity breaks out then so be it.  He doesn't seem to hide his fondness to be spooned by the same sex.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Mussolini on May 23, 2008, 05:18:39 AM
What I'm saying is that the problems that Hitler's army revolted against did not just happen overnight.  The Jewish holocaust was a long time coming.  Rest assured, if not by Hitler, the rise in antisemitism would have resulted in a genocide just as large at another point in time.

There were, you know, a few red flags along the way for the Jews:

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/HistoryJewishPersecution.htm
http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~andrew/judaism/timeline.htm


If a US city was blown off the map tomorrow, I would not say that is justified.  But given the complacency of US citizens to not revolt against the Bush administration (and more specifically, his Jewish puppet masters), would you be SURPRISED if it happened?  I wouldn't.  Whether you like it or not, the USA policing the entire world is causing them to collect A LOT of enemies.  Don't be so naive to think the USA won't be attacked for that.  That's similar to how I view the holocaust.  I don't justify it, but it WAS bound to happen eventually and whether that is a nice fact to acknowledge or not, that is reality.

Likewise, if a Canadian city was attacked tomorrow, I would not be surprised, because we are also in bed with Bush's puppet masters through our Harper conservative government.  Not to the same extent as in US politics, but Canada is not devoid of responsibility and Canadians should not be surprised if we are attacked also.


I am a Canadain also, and I actually like Harper. I like his veiws on immigrants and Homo's. And atleast he doesnt change his stance on these issues to appease minorities.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 06:38:54 AM
You want to give unbiased supplement reviews with-out an agenda go out and buy the supplements and then review them!

until then you are just a "shill" for bodybuilding.com .......(pretty much spam IMO)

your always pushing "them" and kissing ass trying to get on the payroll,("they GIVE you supplements" then you review them   lol!)


spam somewhere else my lil yes man!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 06:49:33 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 23, 2008, 06:51:42 AM
Haha. When you have to reach into the bottom of the sack and pull out a bone marrow transplant example to support your argument, you've already lost.  ;)

Why? The bone marrow stuff is fact, and relevant to the discussion.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Method101 on May 23, 2008, 07:10:24 AM
Sweet Muscle, ive never seen a user so interested in the size of another guys dick in my life, its well known people become resentfull to the very thing they are or have themselves because they are in denial.

All guys who post your pictures here be aware that there are many users imagining what your dick would look like based on the outline in your pants.
 :-X

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 23, 2008, 07:16:13 AM
Why? The bone marrow stuff is fact, and relevant to the discussion.
Uh, no. It's a long way from Matt's initial antisemitism argument and his, later, gene-intelligence thesis. He's just now throwing anything up, and I'm just skeet shooting.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 23, 2008, 11:24:33 AM
You want to give unbiased supplement reviews with-out an agenda go out and buy the supplements and then review them!

until then you are just a "shill" for bodybuilding.com .......(pretty much spam IMO)

your always pushing "them" and kissing ass trying to get on the payroll,("they GIVE you supplements" then you review them   lol!)


spam somewhere else my lil yes man!

Nah, that's a bunch of shit.

If their products suck, I say it.  I will be recommended against the CoQ10 and the Echinacea/Goldenseal as part of the stack because they are a little redundant.  I will be unlikely to recommend them in any case.  NO-XS is garbage compared to Beta Alanine Plus and barely costs less at all.

Also, I make commission off what I sell.  There is no other payment.  So if I'm advising against certain products it doesn't work in my favour in that way because people will be less likely to buy them.  What will happen is people will read one review where I say a product sucks and understand that I give honest reviews all the time and come back to read more.  At other times, I will compare products from my favourite to least favourite and if people know I'm honest, they will assign more credibility to my listing.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 11:32:49 AM
Nah, that's a bunch of shit.

If their products suck, I say it.  I will be recommended against the CoQ10 and the Echinacea/Goldenseal as part of the stack because they are a little redundant.  I will be unlikely to recommend them in any case.  NO-XS is garbage compared to Beta Alanine Plus and barely costs less at all.

Also, I make commission off what I sell.  There is no other payment.  So if I'm advising against certain products it doesn't work in my favour in that way because people will be less likely to buy them.  What will happen is people will read one review where I say a product sucks and understand that I give honest reviews all the time and come back to read more.  At other times, I will compare products from my favourite to least favourite and if people know I'm honest, they will assign more credibility to my listing.

Blah Blah Blah!.............you can't give honest fucking reviews if you work for/want to work for said company (or said company sends you "free product" to try and review for them)
you act like you work for bodybuilding.com on numerous threads here (like you are Bob Chic or something!)
your not..............you wanna review products for us here at get-big great!!
go buy some (many different brands) and give us your honest/unbiased review!
until then you = bodybuilding.com "wannabe" whos supplement reviews are about as worthless as Musclemag reviewing Muscletech products

shame on you for trying to "dupe us"
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 23, 2008, 11:36:44 AM
Nah, that's a bunch of shit.

If their products suck, I say it.  I will be recommended against the CoQ10 and the Echinacea/Goldenseal as part of the stack because they are a little redundant.  I will be unlikely to recommend them in any case.  NO-XS is garbage compared to Beta Alanine Plus and barely costs less at all.

Also, I make commission off what I sell.  There is no other payment.  So if I'm advising against certain products it doesn't work in my favour in that way because people will be less likely to buy them.  What will happen is people will read one review where I say a product sucks and understand that I give honest reviews all the time and come back to read more.  At other times, I will compare products from my favourite to least favourite and if people know I'm honest, they will assign more credibility to my listing.

A buddy of mine couldn't bench 135.  He tried and the weight crashed on him.  We gave him an Asprin and told him it was steroids and it will help him lift.  He totally fell for it and tried again and got three complete reps on his own.

So do you think he ran to getbig to proclaim the anabolic effect of Aspirin?  It was all in his head.  You'd be surprised how much better you can lift when a drop dead gorgeous girl is watching or if you have the confidence and believe.

There's one chinese guy that used to come to my gym.  probably weighed 150 max, lean but didn't have big muscles.  He'd rep 3 plates a side on bench for reps.  I once asked him how the hell he can do that and in broken english pointed to his head and said its all in the head.  His mental ability allowed him to overcome any fear and to utilize his whole body as one unit to press that weight.

By taking all of the supplements and keeping a positive mind about it, it gave you the confidence to try more weight and not be afraid.  Most people stop their reps way to short.  Most stop once they feel some muscle sorness, yet if you wanted you can easily dig down and rep out a few more.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: flagadajones on May 23, 2008, 11:37:25 AM
who cares, none of these "supps" matt reviews have any potent effect anyway...

I wonder how you can rate them as bad or good considering it's just powder you're going to flush down the toilet... (put aside creatine and cafeine based products)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: flagadajones on May 23, 2008, 11:43:36 AM
A buddy of mine couldn't bench 135.  He tried and the weight crashed on him.  We gave him an Asprin and told him it was steroids and it will help him lift.  He totally fell for it and tried again and got three complete reps on his own.

So do you think he ran to getbig to proclaim the anabolic effect of Aspirin?  It was all in his head.  You'd be surprised how much better you can lift when a drop dead gorgeous girl is watching or if you have the confidence and believe.

There's one chinese guy that used to come to my gym.  probably weighed 150 max, lean but didn't have big muscles.  He'd rep 3 plates a side on bench for reps.  I once asked him how the hell he can do that and in broken english pointed to his head and said its all in the head.  His mental ability allowed him to overcome any fear and to utilize his whole body as one unit to press that weight.

By taking all of the supplements and keeping a positive mind about it, it gave you the confidence to try more weight and not be afraid.  Most people stop their reps way to short.  Most stop once they feel some muscle sorness, yet if you wanted you can easily dig down and rep out a few more.

are you implying that matt is just a bogus expert bullshiting us with lies?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 23, 2008, 11:45:31 AM
Blah Blah Blah!.............you can't give honest fucking reviews if you work for/want to work for said company (or said company sends you "free product" to try and review for them)
you act like you work for bodybuilding.com on numerous threads here (like you are Bob Chic or something!)
your not..............you wanna review products for us here at get-big great!!
go buy some (many different brands) and give us your honest/unbiased review!
until then you = bodybuilding.com "wannabe" whos supplement reviews are about as worthless as Musclemag reviewing Muscletech products

shame on you for trying to "dupe us"


MattCock has an IQ of 130. Therefore, his stuff = legit. If your IQ is less than 130, you can not debate him.

 :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 11:55:05 AM

MattCock has an IQ of 130. Therefore, his stuff = legit. If your IQ is less than 130, you can not debate him.

 :D

i guess i can carry on this debate then (137) ......altho since that was taken rec drugs have prolly lowered that number considerably
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 23, 2008, 12:02:28 PM
i guess i can carry on this debate then (137) ......altho since that was taken rec drugs have prolly lowered that number considerably

MattCock will only debate you based on the results of a recently taken IQ test.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 12:04:37 PM
MattCock will only debate you based on the results of a recently taken IQ test.

then im fucked.................. ............... :(
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 23, 2008, 12:06:22 PM
We should get Bethany Carter Howlett on here to debate MattC.

But then again, Matt would probably accuse her of being Jewish.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 23, 2008, 12:07:48 PM
then im fucked.................. ............... :(


What was your SAT score?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Special Ed on May 23, 2008, 12:25:31 PM
Also, I make commission off what I sell.  There is no other payment.  So if I'm advising against certain products it doesn't work in my favour in that way because people will be less likely to buy them.  What will happen is people will read one review where I say a product sucks and understand that I give honest reviews all the time and come back to read more.  At other times, I will compare products from my favourite to least favourite and if people know I'm honest, they will assign more credibility to my listing.
So on top of receiving FREE product, you make MONEY off your reviews.

Hmmmm....
1) PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION: MattC, a guy with a hook nose
2) NEGATIVE TRAIT #1: CHEAP, FRUGAL, WITHOUT SHAME:  Who grovels companies for FREE product (rather than buying them himself with all of his 'increased' profits)
3) NEGATIVE TRAIT #2: LEECH, MOOCH, USER: Then uses someone else's website to spam people to his own website with his self-serving reviews
4) NEGATIVE TRAIT #3: DISHONEST, SNAKE-ISH, SNEAKY: Posts positive and glowing reviews for nearly all products (even though it's obvious nothing works for him) because he makes money on all products sold through his website. Occasionally throws in a negative review to "keep it looking honest".
4) NEGATIVE TRAIT #4: PROFITEER, MONEY-GRUBBING, OPPORTUNIST: Then profits from his dishonest, bullshit reviews.
5) NEGATIVE TRAIT #5: BOASTING ABOUT MONEY AND SUCCESS: Then boasts how much money he's making and how well his "business" is doing.

Matt, is the irony lost on you that you that you have now taken on all of the negative traits traditionally associated with Jews and spout Anti-Semitic shit more than ever?

You, my friend, are a FRAUD.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: flagadajones on May 23, 2008, 12:27:33 PM
So on top of receiving FREE product, you make MONEY off your reviews.

Hmmmm....
1) PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION: MattC, a guy with a hook nose
2) NEGATIVE TRAIT #1: CHEAP, FRUGAL, WITHOUT SHAME:  Who grovels companies for FREE product (rather than buying them himself with all of his 'increased' profits)
3) NEGATIVE TRAIT #2: LEECH, MOOCH, USER: Then uses someone else's website to spam people to his own website with his self-serving reviews
4) NEGATIVE TRAIT #3: DISHONEST, SNAKE-ISH, SNEAKY: Posts positive and glowing reviews for nearly all products (even though it's obvious nothing works for him) because he makes money on all products sold through his website. Occasionally throws in a negative review to "keep it looking honest".
4) NEGATIVE TRAIT #4: PROFITEER, MONEY-GRUBBING, OPPORTUNIST: Then profits from his dishonest, bullshit reviews.
5) NEGATIVE TRAIT #5: BOASTING ABOUT MONEY AND SUCCESS: Then boasts how much money he's making and how well his "business" is doing.

Matt, is the irony lost on you that you that you have now taken on all of the negative traits traditionally associated with Jews and spout Anti-Semitic shit more than ever?

You, my friend, are a FRAUD.

yeah but even all that said,I bet he barely makes 1 dollar every three months .
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 23, 2008, 12:31:09 PM
Maybe he's part Jewish?

Maybe he'll confront his dad one day and accuse him of controling the media?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 12:31:28 PM

What was your SAT score?

not great (im horrible in math)

around 1700 total
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: mass 04 on May 23, 2008, 12:32:56 PM
not great (im horrible in math)

around 1700 total
didn't the old test only go up to 1600?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Fury on May 23, 2008, 12:33:36 PM
not great (im horrible in math)

around 1700 total

Interesting considering a perfect score was a 1600 up until a year or two ago.  :-X
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 12:33:53 PM
So on top of receiving FREE product, you make MONEY off your reviews.

Hmmmm....
1) PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION: MattC, a guy with a hook nose
2) NEGATIVE TRAIT #1: CHEAP, FRUGAL, WITHOUT SHAME:  Who grovels companies for FREE product (rather than buying them himself with all of his 'increased' profits)
3) NEGATIVE TRAIT #2: LEECH, MOOCH, USER: Then uses someone else's website to spam people to his own website with his self-serving reviews
4) NEGATIVE TRAIT #3: DISHONEST, SNAKE-ISH, SNEAKY: Posts positive and glowing reviews for nearly all products (even though it's obvious nothing works for him) because he makes money on all products sold through his website. Occasionally throws in a negative review to "keep it looking honest".
4) NEGATIVE TRAIT #4: PROFITEER, MONEY-GRUBBING, OPPORTUNIST: Then profits from his dishonest, bullshit reviews.
5) NEGATIVE TRAIT #5: BOASTING ABOUT MONEY AND SUCCESS: Then boasts how much money he's making and how well his "business" is doing.

Matt, is the irony lost on you that you that you have now taken on all of the negative traits traditionally associated with Jews and spout Anti-Semitic shit more than ever?

You, my friend, are a FRAUD.

and that my friends pretty much sums up Matt C in a nutshell................ ........
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 23, 2008, 12:35:06 PM
Interesting considering a perfect score was a 1600 up until a year or two ago.  :-X


Arvilla took it when he was 45.  ::)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 12:35:52 PM
didn't the old test only go up to 1600?

from what i remember (1986 or so) total score was somewhere in the range of 2500- 3000
so my SAT'S really sucked (but that was so long ago im prolly wrong)


Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: mass 04 on May 23, 2008, 12:35:55 PM

Arvilla took it when he was 45.  ::)
;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 12:38:36 PM
if total score was 1600 id guess my SAT'S 1000 1100 somewhere in that range (trust me im not bragging that i had high SAT's scores)

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 12:56:30 PM
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Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 23, 2008, 01:00:21 PM
.

All Matt has to do is a grow 'stache and do a right salute and he'd be fucking set.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 23, 2008, 01:02:57 PM

Matt, is the irony lost on you that you that you have now taken on all of the negative traits traditionally associated with Jews and spout Anti-Semitic shit more than ever?

You, my friend, are a FRAUD.
Good point. I was wondering when someone would note that. Matt is an intelligent guy, but in some ways comes off as naive. It's like he lacks the self-reflective, contemplative intelligence that marks true wisdom. I've often found that the wittiest people are the smartest (that is true here on Getbig, too!) as takes intelligence + synthesis + contemplation = bon mots. Matt seems almost devoid of humour, let alone irony.

/just observin,' not hatin'
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 23, 2008, 01:08:53 PM
I don't like you guys attacking a strawman version of me here.  It's not fair, although you've done it to a lot of people on this board.  You're putting words/opinions in my mouth and it's getting ridiculous.  I'm not even going to comment on some of the stupid shit written here.  Jason, shame on you for participating, I thought you were smarter than that.  Also, what are you suggesting I do, pay for supplements I am awarded for free for my work?  ???

If I say that I like most of the supplements I've tried, it's because that is my honest opinion.  As I use more and more supplements, I obviously have more information to base my judgment on.  When I reviewed NO-XS I  rated it middle of the road amongst NO supplements because I had never been fully introduced to beta-alanine at that point.  Now I will tell you it sucks.  Same goes for Universal Gain Fast 3100.  At first, I liked it and thought it was a worthwhile supplement, but now after sampling so many other gainers, I would never go back to it.

As long as I continue to progress with my M3 stack, I am going to review it favourably.  If I regress and my strength goes down, then I will review it accordingly.  It's unreasonable and unfair for you guys to proclaim my reviews are dishonest when they have all been very honest.  For example, I report my workout progress exactly and often include VIDEOS as evidence of that.  How can you suggest I am lying about that when I am showing videos of my progress and including commentary to attempt to explain said changes in strength?  Not cool guys.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: _bruce_ on May 23, 2008, 02:09:47 PM
MattC - you're the TomCruise of bodybuilding  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: gordiano on May 23, 2008, 02:41:33 PM
MattC - you're the TomCruise of bodybuilding  ;D

(http://i26.tinypic.com/210aauq.jpg)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 02:56:18 PM
How about a disclaimer on your website then
*note..this is not an unbiased review,i am recieving compensation from www.bodybuilding.com,they give me "free product" i then "hype" it favorably on this website and others ,and then attempt to sell it to you the general public so i can also collect a commission fee.....

in essence this is a scam
(please note i will also be posting foolish pictures and you-tube videos of myself after i have watched way too many Jay Cutler bodybuilding DVDS and think that i am him)

altho i have never competed in either bodybuilding or powerlifting please enjoy the hundreds of pictures and videos of myself lifting,posing in my undewear in the gym and flexing

Hope to scam some money off of you!!!
sincerly
Matt Canning
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: LurkyLurker on May 23, 2008, 03:01:47 PM
Oh Michael, so silly of you to think you have the intellectual power to hang with Mr. Canning. His pure, untainted genetic superiority assures that he comprehends arguments on a plane far higher than you could possibly comprehend. There's a logic to whoring supps while spouting anti-Semitic tripe and racist remarks, not to mention lusting after male organ, that you'll never grasp, so please don't try.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 23, 2008, 03:06:11 PM
Oh Michael, so silly of you to think you have the intellectual power to hang with Mr. Canning. His pure, untainted genetic superiority assures that he comprehends arguments on a plane far higher than you could possibly comprehend. There's a logic to whoring supps while spouting anti-Semitic tripe and racist remarks, not to mention lusting after male organ, that you'll never grasp, so please don't try.

;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 03:07:58 PM
Oh Michael, so silly of you to think you have the intellectual power to hang with Mr. Canning. His pure, untainted genetic superiority assures that he comprehends arguments on a plane far higher than you could possibly comprehend. There's a logic to whoring supps while spouting anti-Semitic tripe and racist remarks, not to mention lusting after male organ, that you'll never grasp, so please don't try.

                                             
   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 23, 2008, 03:18:02 PM
Oh Michael, so silly of you to think you have the intellectual power to hang with Mr. Canning. His pure, untainted genetic superiority assures that he comprehends arguments on a plane far higher than you could possibly comprehend. There's a logic to whoring supps while spouting anti-Semitic tripe and racist remarks, not to mention lusting after male organ, that you'll never grasp, so please don't try.

from the looks of Laura, Mike definitely doesn't lust after weiner
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: _bruce_ on May 23, 2008, 03:19:51 PM
(http://i26.tinypic.com/210aauq.jpg)

Mhhh... is his mission to stop Israel from receiving cheques from the U.S.?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 03:20:37 PM
There are more videos posted on you-tube of Matt Canning "working out" than any other "bodybuilder"




                               why?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 23, 2008, 03:23:00 PM
There are more videos posted on you-tube of Matt Canning "working out" than any other "bodybuilder"




                               why?

funny thing is that his form on alot of shit is horrendous.  Those deadlifts looked painful and those leg extensions that Mike just posted made my knees hurt just watching it.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 03:28:20 PM
and please don't anyone try to tell me he's showing "beginners" how to lift with good and proper form
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 23, 2008, 03:31:38 PM
and please don't anyone try to tell me he's showing "beginners" how to lift with good and proper form


shit my back hurts now!  quit posting that stuff
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 03:34:15 PM
"How to lift weights with horrendous form by a complete nobody"




(*see all 600 videos on you-tube!)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 03:44:05 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 04:03:39 PM
u wanna use Rons website to scam people and sell products off of ur website!?!?!?!?


(am i getting this right?)


wtf
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: _bruce_ on May 23, 2008, 04:04:23 PM
:o

PeterPan breaking world records  :o
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 23, 2008, 04:04:46 PM
Uh oh. Mike's got a bone and he's not letting go.  :o     :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 23, 2008, 04:15:24 PM
shit my back hurts now!  quit posting that stuff
TERRIBLE FORM!!!!!!!!!

i KNOW what you mean---shit my back hurts now too :-\
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 23, 2008, 04:37:37 PM
u wanna use Rons website to scam people and sell products off of ur website!?!?!?!?


(am i getting this right?)


wtf

I bet Matt Canning is stronger than you on deadlifts.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 23, 2008, 05:51:40 PM
First off, I will not be replying to any political/religious comments directed towards me from now on.  If you want to talk about that, message me, call me, or talk to me in person.  Some of you on here are worthwhile to debate, others are not.

How about a disclaimer on your website then
*note..this is not an unbiased review,i am recieving compensation from www.bodybuilding.com,they give me "free product" i then "hype" it favorably on this website and others ,and then attempt to sell it to you the general public so i can also collect a commission fee.....

So you're saying "Go to: BUY HIGHER POWER M3 MUSCLE BOUND" isn't making it CLEAR that I'm in the business of selling supplements and that I work off commission?  ::)

You know what I have to say about some of the comments on here in general?  It is those comments which are (often) the sham!  In 2004, I swore I would never use supplements again based on what I read on the boards.  Finally at the Arnold I was given a free sample of SIZEON by Gaspari by the sales rep Tom.  I used it and put on 10 pounds over the course of the 30 day period while achieving better pumps than I ever had before.  My strength gains were minimal (if any) but given the size I put on, I was once again motivated to use supplements and I've used them off and on ever since (most recently, ON).

Looking back, I wish I had never bought into the comments on the boards saying all supplements are garbage.

My SuperPump250 review:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gasparinutritionsuperpump250review.html

Read the Overall Review, this says it all:

"That said, since the side effects were literally unbearable for me, I will not be using this product again and neither will my training partner who experienced the exact same side effects."

Yeah, this really looks like I'm trying to push supplements when I tell people NOT TO BUY THEM.  ::)

I discussed this with Will and he said the only thing he wanted primarily in the reviews was HONESTY.

If I recommended AGAINST buying 7/10 supplements, some of you would still say I have an agenda towards selling supplements.  There is no winning here.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 23, 2008, 06:05:05 PM
First off, I will not be replying to any political/religious comments directed towards me from now on.  If you want to talk about that, message me, call me, or talk to me in person.  Some of you on here are worthwhile to debate, others are not.

So you're saying "Go to: BUY HIGHER POWER M3 MUSCLE BOUND" isn't making it CLEAR that I'm in the business of selling supplements and that I work off commission?  ::)

You know what I have to say about some of the comments on here in general?  It is those comments which are (often) the sham!  In 2004, I swore I would never use supplements again based on what I read on the boards.  Finally at the Arnold I was given a free sample of SIZEON by Gaspari by the sales rep Tom.  I used it and put on 10 pounds over the course of the 30 day period while achieving better pumps than I ever had before.  My strength gains were minimal (if any) but given the size I put on, I was once again motivated to use supplements and I've used them off and on ever since (most recently, ON).

Looking back, I wish I had never bought into the comments on the boards saying all supplements are garbage.

My SuperPump250 review:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gasparinutritionsuperpump250review.html

Read the Overall Review, this says it all:

"That said, since the side effects were literally unbearable for me, I will not be using this product again and neither will my training partner who experienced the exact same side effects."

Yeah, this really looks like I'm trying to push supplements when I tell people NOT TO BUY THEM.  ::)

I discussed this with Will and he said the only thing he wanted primarily in the reviews was HONESTY.

If I recommended AGAINST buying 7/10 supplements, some of you would still say I have an agenda towards selling supplements.  There is no winning here.
its getbig---we are all genetic super beings who no longer need muscles to lift weight only our highly developed brains--duhh why would we need supplements ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 23, 2008, 06:07:06 PM
First off, I will not be replying to any political/religious comments directed towards me from now on.  If you want to talk about that, message me, call me, or talk to me in person.  Some of you on here are worthwhile to debate, others are not.

So you're saying "Go to: BUY HIGHER POWER M3 MUSCLE BOUND" isn't making it CLEAR that I'm in the business of selling supplements and that I work off commission?  ::)

You know what I have to say about some of the comments on here in general?  It is those comments which are (often) the sham!  In 2004, I swore I would never use supplements again based on what I read on the boards.  Finally at the Arnold I was given a free sample of SIZEON by Gaspari by the sales rep Tom.  I used it and put on 10 pounds over the course of the 30 day period while achieving better pumps than I ever had before.  My strength gains were minimal (if any) but given the size I put on, I was once again motivated to use supplements and I've used them off and on ever since (most recently, ON).

Looking back, I wish I had never bought into the comments on the boards saying all supplements are garbage.

My SuperPump250 review:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gasparinutritionsuperpump250review.html

Read the Overall Review, this says it all:

"That said, since the side effects were literally unbearable for me, I will not be using this product again and neither will my training partner who experienced the exact same side effects."

Yeah, this really looks like I'm trying to push supplements when I tell people NOT TO BUY THEM.  ::)

I discussed this with Will and he said the only thing he wanted primarily in the reviews was HONESTY.

If I recommended AGAINST buying 7/10 supplements, some of you would still say I have an agenda towards selling supplements.  There is no winning here.
good. yeah dont talk about your gutter belief system, do us all a favor
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 23, 2008, 06:12:58 PM
its getbig---we are all genetic super beings who no longer need muscles to lift weight only our highly developed brains--duhh why would we need supplements ;D

 ;D

But seriously, I find it a little ironic that this board is so adamant about bashing people who recommend supplements and yet they are encouraging people against supplements at ALL times.

Encourage people to do as much research as possible.  In almost ALL of my reviews, I make it clear it is just MY OPINION and tell people to do research.  I also almost always stress the importance of diet, training, and individual response.

Some supplements are good, some are garbage as I've said and will continue to say.  My M3 review is over 8,000 words so far - I include as much detail as possible, so how can anyone say I'm lying?

Conflicts of interest are only a bad thing if they are not REVEALED.  If I am always REPEATING the fact that I am in the business of selling supplements, I think it's safe to say I'm not trying to con anyone.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 23, 2008, 06:14:03 PM
good. yeah dont talk about your gutter belief system, do us all a favor

All you do is attack me no matter what I say.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 23, 2008, 06:20:08 PM
All you do is attack me no matter what I say.


It's probably a Jewish conspiracy.  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Mussolini on May 23, 2008, 06:21:53 PM
;D

But seriously, I find it a little ironic that this board is so adamant about bashing people who recommend supplements and yet they are encouraging people against supplements at ALL times.

Encourage people to do as much research as possible.  In almost ALL of my reviews, I make it clear it is just MY OPINION and tell people to do research.  I also almost always stress the importance of diet, training, and individual response.

Some supplements are good, some are garbage as I've said and will continue to say.  My M3 review is over 8,000 words so far - I include as much detail as possible, so how can anyone say I'm lying?

Conflicts of interest are only a bad thing if they are not REVEALED.  If I am always REPEATING the fact that I am in the business of selling supplements, I think it's safe to say I'm not trying to con anyone.


Matt, are all people who attend Canadian Universities smart?

Is the average University students IQ higher than someone who didnt attend?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 06:24:33 PM
waaaaaa waaaaaa waaaaa!................cry me a fucking river!
only "supplements" that work
A) a good quality whey or MRP protein
B)a good multi-mineral multi-vitamin
C) Fat-burner or "energy-pill"

lump all ur fucking "size-on" and "swole -on" and "super-pump 6000" and shove em up ur ass!

you wanna "spam" everybody and everything on your website that's fine....don't do it here!

"Matt C's review of the new "super-pump-super swole halostein anadral winstral 250"
"it's great i put on over 60 lbs of quality mass in the first hour"!!!!!!!!!!!
order here! www.bodybuildingpro.com
(first 100 orders get a free "shaker cup"!!!!!)


i come to get-big for laughs,entertainment and good people not for ur SPAM bullshit!

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 06:31:49 PM
 >:(
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 23, 2008, 06:33:55 PM
waaaaaa waaaaaa waaaaa!................cry me a fucking river!
only "supplements" that work
A) a good quality whey or MRP protein

Ans that only has value as a convenience factor.. eggs, steak, fish, chicken are better.  Keep protein around for when you cant eat food, but dont make it part ogf the meal plan.

Quote
B)a good multi-mineral multi-vitamin
C) Fat-burner or "energy-pill"

Fat burner w ephedrine, sure, all else is crap.  And ephedrine's main value is as an appetite suppresant and mood enhancer when dieting.


Quote
lump all ur fucking "size-on" and "swole -on" and "super-pump 6000" and shove em up ur ass!

Yep, all crap.


Quote
you wanna "spam" everybody and everything on your website that's fine....don't do it here!

"Matt C's review of the new "super-pump-super swole halostein anadral winstral 250"
"it's great i put on over 60 lbs of quality mass in the first hour"!!!!!!!!!!!
order here! www.bodybuildingpro.com
(first 100 orders get a free "shaker cup"!!!!!)


I think matt has a jewish grandfather.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 06:40:20 PM
 good quality food is honestly all you really need (like u said protein/MRP's = convenience or traveling/when you can't eat a good meal)

im sure Matt has never tried (really tried) eating good quality food every 3-4 hours (if he did he would not be so frustrated and angry!) for an extended period of time

im sure he would be leaps and bounds ahead of the 180 lb physique he has displayed for years now if he did so

instead he will keep belonging to the "Super-Supplement of the month club" and keep being tiny



Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 23, 2008, 06:52:25 PM
good quality food is honestly all you really need (like u said protein/MRP's = convenience or traveling/when you can't eat a good meal)

im sure Matt has never tried (really tried) eating good quality food every 3-4 hours (if he did he would not be so frustrated and angry!) for an extended period of time

im sure he would be leaps and bounds ahead of the 180 lb physique he has displayed for years now if he did so

instead he will keep belonging to the "Super-Supplement of the month club" and keep being tiny





I agree with you man. I also think protein consumption is overplayed by thr supplement companies. Don't really need more than 120-150g a day.

People go to supplements because they're lazy. Good food costs as much as any fancy supplement but requires effort to prepare.

You tire of shitty supplements; forcing yourself to take them, but you seldom tired of a nice, hot meal. Eating good, cooked food is far better for the fitness freak/natural bber than any fucking garbage supplement.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 06:52:53 PM
Go spam this board with your "NX -EXPLODE" SUPER -DROL primo-deca pump 250"
http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/index.php?






Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: wes on May 23, 2008, 06:56:07 PM
Mike is hot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 06:57:56 PM
Mike is hot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :)

    lol!

                        (guess i got a lil carried away)


                                                                                                my bad
   
                                                                                                                                  :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: james_hetfield on May 23, 2008, 07:10:46 PM
mike is just jealous 'couse he has to juice to look like shit while matt can look like shit naturally.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: McFarland on May 23, 2008, 07:31:25 PM
Mike's impressing me here.  Matt you're simply a fucking moron if you think you can be successful in any business venture promoting hate.  "Hate" in this context being essentially any doctrination holding that there are people "better" than others based on genetically-predetermined factors.  You might not be saying "better" per se, but it's hard to posit that one group is smarter than another without feelings getting hurt. Bodybuilding.com would never align themselves with you tied to your current belief system and you are a fool for failing to realize this.  Smartest dumb mother fucker I know and epic fucking fail on the 405 x 3 then six because anybody that knows anything about having deadlifted 500+ plus knows that's easily how much strength can vary from deadlift workout to workout regardless of any nutrient/supplement/steroid intake in the meantime.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 23, 2008, 07:42:55 PM
Mike's impressing me here.  Matt you're simply a fucking moron if you think you can be successful in any business venture promoting hate.  "Hate" in this context being essentially any doctrination holding that there are people "better" than others based on genetically-predetermined factors.  You might not be saying "better" per se, but it's hard to posit that one group is smarter than another without feelings getting hurt. Bodybuilding.com would never align themselves with you tied to your current belief system and you are a fool for failing to realize this.  Smartest dumb mother fucker I know and epic fucking fail on the 405 x 3 then six because anybody that knows anything about having deadlifted 500+ plus knows that's easily how much strength can vary from deadlift workout to workout regardless of any nutrient/supplement/steroid intake in the meantime.

I also don't understand why he enters in threads and starts spewing his nonsense. Valid or not, you're not going to win over people by being an annoying little fuck who looks like geek from that show called the Wonder Years.

Maybe if he had actual balls, then he'd be out trying to convince people in the real world and not in some forum where people could care less about him and what he has to say. Can't believe that he doesn't understand something as simple as this, yet claims an IQ of 130.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: McFarland on May 23, 2008, 07:44:47 PM
Wait maybe I should just be glad that you got off your "does Gunter do cocaine in afterparty bathrooms" kick.  Holy shit after tying that dumb shit into every bodybuilding DVD review you wrote for 2 years you finally got off it.  Let's face it, this shit is never about bodybuilding at all, it's about Matt C and whatever fucking homo issue he's hung up on at the moment.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 23, 2008, 07:45:57 PM
Wait maybe I should just be glad that you got off your "does Gunter do cocaine in afterparty bathrooms" kick.  Holy shit after tying that dumb shit into every bodybuilding DVD review you wrote for 2 years you finally got off it.  Let's face it, this shit is never about bodybuilding at all, it's about Matt C and whatever fucking homo issue he's hung up on at the moment.

He's hung up on Phil Heath's eyes atm.

A few months ago it was Daddywaddy's penis.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 07:51:15 PM
Wait maybe I should just be glad that you got off your "does Gunter do cocaine in afterparty bathrooms" kick.  Holy shit after tying that dumb shit into every bodybuilding DVD review you wrote for 2 years you finally got off it.  Let's face it, this shit is never about bodybuilding at all, it's about Matt C and whatever fucking homo issue he's hung up on at the moment.

It was bodybuilders "height" for awhile ,,,then it was bodybuilders (Male) "Looks"/how good looking they were (an obsession with bodybuilder Frank McGrath) now it's this whole hatred for the Jews and racism


seriously WTF ....................kid has some serious issues!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: McFarland on May 23, 2008, 07:55:08 PM
If I had a stuffed dummy wearing black socks with scrub pants and clogs I would burn that bitch in Matt C effigy at this very moment and the rest of this Getbig mob would cheer me on in doing so.  Nice work Matt. 
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 08:06:37 PM
If I had a stuffed dummy wearing black socks with scrub pants and clogs I would burn that bitch in Matt C effigy at this very moment and the rest of this Getbig mob would cheer me on in doing so.  Nice work Matt. 

                       
  ;D :-X ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2008, 08:12:17 PM
Matt C = gayer than watching "Kimora  life in the fab lane"


Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: mass 04 on May 23, 2008, 08:23:35 PM
Matt C = gayer than watching "Kimora  life in the fab lane"



gayer than knowing what the hell that even is.  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Special Ed on May 23, 2008, 09:15:55 PM
All you do is attack me no matter what I say.
We're just calling a spade a 'spade'. It's one thing to lie to impress people and quite another to lie to make money off of people who believe you. Here's a sampling of your the Bullshit you peddle:

- You claim that Gaspari's SizeOn put 10lbs on you and now this new product M3 put another 10lbs on you, but the problem is that at 170 lbs, you're lucky to have gained 20 lbs since you started working out 10 years ago.

- You post horrible lifts with horrendous form and always mention that you previously did it with perfect form for more reps.

- If you weren't making money off of those BS reviews, you'd be slamming every product. It's fairly obvious that nothing has worked for you, as you look similar to most 17 year olds with a year of training under their belts.

- You're no different than a movie reviewer who says every movie is "Incredible" in the hopes of getting invited to the next premiere. Oh yeah, occasionally you slam "Howard the Duck" or "Buckaroo Bonzai" to keep it real. ::)

- You have mocked both Ron Avidan and the Weiders for being Jews and "controlling" the bodybuilding media, while you do everything you can to model your own business on theirs in a pathetic attempt to match their success.

- You have no original products to sell and no original ideas to offer so you "review" products to make a buck off the same kids you mock for believing a NO-Xplode ad.

- There's absolutely zero basis to believe anything you say in your reviews. Are people supposed to believe you switch supplements every two weeks and that you stop using a product that's put 10 lbs on you to start using and review a new product "for the good of humanity"?

- Your expression of hate towards Jews and Blacks is so obviously masking an inferiority complex. You truly believe that Jews are intellectually superior and Blacks are physically superior, so you are consumed with tossing around the two things you are most insecure about: Your IQ and your Strength. As pathetic as it is, it actually makes you feel better by posting "I have a 130 IQ and a 500 lb Deadlift".

- You actually derive value from stating that publicly on a message board, probably because in real life no one has ever called you intelligent or mentioned that you look strong.

- You post your lifts, not because you are proud, but because you know that no one would ever believe you could deadlift 500lbs based on your appearance. Again, it's your insecurities that causes you to post your lifts.

- You post copies of your military honors and awards like an 8-year old brags about his bowling or karate trophies.

- You're the kind of guy who has probably tried to pass the Mensa exam 5-6 times. Because we all know that nothing would make you happier than to post a copy of your Mensa certificate. With your insecurities about your own intelligence, you need external approval. Absent getting it from Mensa, you try to get it here.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 23, 2008, 09:19:23 PM
gayer than knowing what the hell that even is.  ;D

Gayer than George Michael in a LA public restroom.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: McFarland on May 23, 2008, 09:25:12 PM


- Your expression of hate towards Jews and Blacks is so obviously masking an inferiority complex. You truly believe that Jews are intellectually superior and Blacks are physically superior, so you are consumed with tossing around the two things you are most insecure about: Your IQ and your Strength. As pathetic as it is, it actually makes you feel better by posting "I have a 130 IQ and a 500 lb Deadlift".



Very insightful observation.  This is great Matt is getting crushed.  Maybe now he'll stop bringing up all this dumb shit that he feels so entitled to be able to discuss so freely.  This is why you don't argue politics or religion Matt. 
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 23, 2008, 09:28:34 PM

Matt, are all people who attend Canadian Universities smart?

Is the average University students IQ higher than someone who didnt attend?

I've not read the studies, although I would assume that is the case.  Note that it is not attending the university institution which makes one smarter, but rather that those who are naturally smarter are also naturally more inclined to attend university.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 23, 2008, 09:29:31 PM
Very insightful observation.  This is great Matt is getting crushed.  Maybe now he'll stop bringing up all this dumb shit that he feels so entitled to be able to discuss so freely.  This is why you don't argue politics or religion Matt.     

it's all a Jewish conspiracy by the forum admin, who just happens to be a Jew controled by the Jews that own the media... These people respond to their masters among the free masons or some other shit.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 23, 2008, 09:34:55 PM
waaaaaa waaaaaa waaaaa!................cry me a fucking river!
only "supplements" that work
A) a good quality whey or MRP protein
B)a good multi-mineral multi-vitamin
C) Fat-burner or "energy-pill"

I've never really tried B or C, but I imagine they would work.  I would also add:

D) Creatine monohydrate
E) Nitric Oxide products (although I would advise against NO and recommend instead beta-alanine products - they are more effective AND less expensive).
F) Gainers for a calorie boost, but be sure you know what you are getting into nutritionally before consuming one.  Some are very high in sugar and other undesirable ingredients.
G) BCAAs.  I can't say for sure, but I feel they are likely what has elevated my mood in the gym since I began using them (after my training partner recommended them).

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mikearvilla.html

 ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 23, 2008, 09:42:09 PM
I agree with you man. I also think protein consumption is overplayed by thr supplement companies. Don't really need more than 120-150g a day.

Agreed:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/optimumseriousmassreview.html

"Of course, you do not have to use a full serving for every shake, nor do you need to consume the recommended three servings per day. If you were to do so, your entire 12 pound tub of Serious Mass would not even last you a week. While I have great respect for Optimum Nutrition, every company wants you to consume their products,so it doesn't surprise me that they recommend so many daily shakes. Ultimately, it is your choice how many Serious Mass shakes you consume each day and how large each shake is."

If you read my reviews, you will see that I routinely call BS on claims from supplement companies.

This is not referring to you Camel  Jockey, but I do wonder if anyone who is bashing my reviews has actually bothered to read them.

Not to mention, not all the reviews are even written by me to begin with.  I have a team of at least five reviewers other than me who have all reviewed products and the only instructions I gave them was to be honest and include as many details as possible.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 23, 2008, 10:00:59 PM
We're just calling a spade a 'spade'. It's one thing to lie to impress people and quite another to lie to make money off of people who believe you. Here's a sampling of your the Bullshit you peddle:

- You claim that Gaspari's SizeOn put 10lbs on you and now this new product M3 put another 10lbs on you, but the problem is that at 170 lbs, you're lucky to have gained 20 lbs since you started working out 10 years ago.

I went from 180 to 190 on SIZEON.  Pretty significant when my weight was at a plateau for about six months before that.  Is that not worthy of reporting?  My strength from what I recall did not go up at all and I believe stayed pretty well exactly the same.  Pumps were WAY better while on.

- You post horrible lifts with horrendous form and always mention that you previously did it with perfect form for more reps.

Not exactly, but I agree partially...although I also make this pretty clear in the reviews.  For example, we all know I've benched 225X16 with pretty well perfect form (albeit fast) since I confirmed that on video.  I've done more, just not on video.  Lately, 185X16-17 has been high for me (past month or so).  So hitting 185X23 is noteworthy.  Whether it is the result of M3 or something else is anyone's guess I suppose.  Shouldn't I post my lift changes for better or worse and let readers make the decision?  I constantly emphasize that it is a number of factors which affect these things.

- If you weren't making money off of those BS reviews, you'd be slamming every product. It's fairly obvious that nothing has worked for you, as you look similar to most 17 year olds with a year of training under their belts.

Who says I don't slam supplements?  Again, not all the reviews are even written by me, and I have made negative comments about a lot of them.  Have you even read any of the reviews?  Go read them and I want specific points here and not these strawmen attacks.  Quote a specific part of a review which you don't think was fair and balanced and tell me about it.  I also constantly seek feedback for the reviews.

- You're no different than a movie reviewer who says every movie is "Incredible" in the hopes of getting invited to the next premiere. Oh yeah, occasionally you slam "Howard the Duck" or "Buckaroo Bonzai" to keep it real. ::)

At this point, I've literally written off NO products OUTRIGHT.  In every NO product review I write from now on, I will be encouraging people to use beta-alanine if they want to achieve better pumps.  Yeah, I'm still encouraging consumption to some degree, but if I find beta-alanine effective, is it not alright for me to promote that?

- You have mocked both Ron Avidan and the Weiders for being Jews and "controlling" the bodybuilding media, while you do everything you can to model your own business on theirs in a pathetic attempt to match their success.

I was never mocking any of you.  And please stop with the strawmen attacks.  I will not be responding to any strawmen from this point forward.  Stop putting words/opinions in my mouth.

- You have no original products to sell and no original ideas to offer so you "review" products to make a buck off the same kids you mock for believing a NO-Xplode ad.

I have never mocked anyone purchasing supplements, even those who are naive.  I would actually consider buying snake oil to be part of the learning curve.  I went through it, and in hindsight it did teach me some things.  It is part of the mechanism of capitalism, like it or not.  Some ads do border on fraud though (MuscleTech comes to mind - good products, ridiculous ads).

- There's absolutely zero basis to believe anything you say in your reviews. Are people supposed to believe you switch supplements every two weeks and that you stop using a product that's put 10 lbs on you to start using and review a new product "for the good of humanity"?

Strawman again.  Special Ed, have you even read any of my review?  My reviews cover various aspects ranging from nutritional content, the scientific research on the supplement I am reviewing, taste, cost effectiveness, and relevant background information.  If I only try 1-3 days worth of an NO product, I report that.  If I am only writing a review based on a one day sample, I advise my readers to take that for what it's worth and continue to research more before purchasing.  Heck, I probably wouldn't trust a review based on a one day sample, LOL.  :)

- Your expression of hate towards Jews and Blacks is so obviously masking an inferiority complex. You truly believe that Jews are intellectually superior and Blacks are physically superior, so you are consumed with tossing around the two things you are most insecure about: Your IQ and your Strength. As pathetic as it is, it actually makes you feel better by posting "I have a 130 IQ and a 500 lb Deadlift".

I don't want to keep talking about the race issue in this thread because all I deal with are strawmen!  Show me the white man who has ran the 100M in under 10 seconds.  ;)  I don't deny that he doesn't exist.  :)  But again, stop with the strawmen please.

- You post copies of your military honors and awards like an 8-year old brags about his bowling or karate trophies.

Nah, only when attacked.  But you guys all know my academic/military record by now, so no need to post it again.  I do have 1,000+ non-court ordered volunteer hours in my community.  Just thought I would throw that in there.  ;D

- You're the kind of guy who has probably tried to pass the Mensa exam 5-6 times. Because we all know that nothing would make you happier than to post a copy of your Mensa certificate. With your insecurities about your own intelligence, you need external approval. Absent getting it from Mensa, you try to get it here.

The accepted score for Mensa on the Stanford-Binet is 132, but for the Cattell it is 148.  I'm not certain if I would score high enough for Mensa.  I've not tried yet though.  If I did and I posted my certificate on here, people would still bash me.  It makes no difference how much I prove myself on here.

Name me someone in the industry has NOT been bashed on here.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 23, 2008, 10:13:25 PM
mike is just jealous 'couse he has to juice to look like shit while matt can look like shit naturally.

I don't get what Mike's deal is.  We are getting along for years and all of a sudden he is on a Matt C hate tirade.  Might be just playful bashing.  Him and McFarland are kind of hard to read sometimes.

Also, my training is pretty good overall.  I lift heavy and I am injury free after years, so presumably my training is at least in the acceptable range (although I would say it is very intense and proper, but to each their own).  I feel that I don't gain weight largely due to my complete lack of appetite and not taking in enough calories.

How is this for a disclaimer for the top of each review?

Quote from: DISCLAIMER
BodybuildingPro.com reviewers receive all reviewed supplements for free from Bodybuilding.com and other suppliers.  BodybuildingPro.com is also affiliated with the sale of all supplements being reviewed and is compensated on a commission basis per sale as you can see through the purchase links on each page.  While each review is written to be as fair and balanced as possible, BodybuildingPro.com always encourages each consumer to learn as much as possible about each supplement and read as many other user reviews as possible before making any purchase (if at all).

Do you feel something like that is necessary?  Additionally, is that specific disclaimer fair and balanced?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: McFarland on May 23, 2008, 10:52:37 PM
Matt I'm kinda fucking with you but I'm kinda not.  Perhaps you asking me how much I deadlift pissed me off just a little bit but you know how I feel about the hate shit so that's not totally made up.  If you'll recall, I flat out refused to take part in your forum because you had intentions of making Woten a main attention on there and I knew with that happening the site would be going nowhere and I did not want to be associated with that.  The dichotomy here is that I, like Matt, am a huge fan of Woten and find him hilarious but I feel it is socially irresponsible to give him a forum uncensored.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 01:32:19 AM
Matt I'm kinda fucking with you but I'm kinda not.  Perhaps you asking me how much I deadlift pissed me off just a little bit but you know how I feel about the hate shit so that's not totally made up.  If you'll recall, I flat out refused to take part in your forum because you had intentions of making Woten a main attention on there and I knew with that happening the site would be going nowhere and I did not want to be associated with that.  The dichotomy here is that I, like Matt, am a huge fan of Woten and find him hilarious but I feel it is socially irresponsible to give him a forum uncensored.

Why?  Do you have a back injury which prevents you from deadlifting heavy?

I think you should ponder some of Woten's comments more carefully before judging.  I wouldn't agree with Woten either but he has given me more scientifically backed and referenced studies than I can shake a stick at.  How can I refute (for example) MRI scans which show brain size differences between races that are present at birth?

If someone actually gave me contrary evidence to refute this fact as well as others, I would change my opinions.  It is as simple as that.  As it is, no one can do that, so they resort to bashing me.  It's funny since I have such a simple way of being convinced - scientific evidence.  Knowing that, if people like Special Ed who want me to change my opinion actually had any, they would present it.  As it is, he knows he has no evidence and that is what pisses him off, causing him to attack me personally.  That's why I post scientific studies which confirm what I say.  The more bashing I receive on here, the more I affirm that my opinions are correct.  Also, if my being so pathetic was so self-evident, there would be no need to bash.  People don't bash the 25th place finisher at the NY Pro for example.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 02:58:40 AM
If I said every supplement I tried sucked in my reviews, people would still say I am pushing to sell more.

The reviews written by other people on my website fall into the same category as mine apparently, even though I never edit the content (barring spelling errors).

Anyone is free to reply to the related discussion threads in every post and state their opinion on the supplements.

Might it be that I actually like M3 and just want to report it?  If things change, I will report that too.  Simple as that.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: wes on May 24, 2008, 04:29:38 AM
If I had a stuffed dummy wearing black socks with scrub pants and clogs I would burn that bitch in Matt C effigy at this very moment and the rest of this Getbig mob would cheer me on in doing so.  Nice work Matt. 
Fucking hilarious!!  LOL  :)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 24, 2008, 04:33:28 AM
I think you should ponder some of Woten's comments more carefully before judging.  I wouldn't agree with Woten either but he has given me more scientifically backed and referenced studies than I can shake a stick at.  How can I refute (for example) MRI scans which show brain size differences between races that are present at birth?
Now you're being disingenuous, Matt. No one in their right mind would deny their are physical race differences. Those are undeniable. It is when you try to extrapolate these that you run into trouble -ie. your latest bugbear seems to be a gene-intelligence link (I think, maybe I've missed this week's 'intelligence' briefing). This kind of thinking is ethically and morally repugnant. And another thing, Mr. Science/strawman, your understanding of things scientific is backwards. Those who actually do the (real, mind you!) science enter into things with an open mind and then look at the results to draw conclusions, if at all. It is obvious to anyone with half a brain here on the boards that you already have your opinions/conclusions and just troll the internet looking for studies, dubious and uncontrolled as they are, to support them.

/don't you like to play baseball or something, instead of trying to promote some lame-brained antisemitism or to find reasons why some race is inferior? i promise you, you'll have more fun, feel better about yourself and won't be so keen to look for ghosts where none exist   
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 04:55:36 AM
This thread = getting exiting. Very hot.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 24, 2008, 05:07:26 AM
This thread = getting exiting. Very hot.
It's a wonder with our limited intelligences that we can even hang in here. I'm punching way over my weight.       :o    :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 24, 2008, 05:12:25 AM
I've never really tried B or C, but I imagine they would work.  I would also add:

D) Creatine monohydrate
E) Nitric Oxide products (although I would advise against NO and recommend instead beta-alanine products - they are more effective AND less expensive).
F) Gainers for a calorie boost, but be sure you know what you are getting into nutritionally before consuming one.  Some are very high in sugar and other undesirable ingredients.
G) BCAAs.  I can't say for sure, but I feel they are likely what has elevated my mood in the gym since I began using them (after my training partner recommended them).

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mikearvilla.html

 ;D
agreed-----It baffles me how these people can deny that creatine works....you dont need the latest delivery system BS but teh regular creatine monohydrate works great for me, actually better than most of the "innovative" stuff. 

NO products do work-----miracles??....no. but they do give you a great pump and can improve your look if you;re lean---that being said I just go with somehting like NOW's AAKG for $20 and stay away from the $70 bottles of NO2 etc... Not worth spending mad $$$$ but nothing Id mock if someone was taking it every once in a while

BCAA's---no need to explain
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: BlueDevil on May 24, 2008, 05:15:55 AM
Now you're being disingenuous, Matt. No one in their right mind would deny their are physical race differences. Those are undeniable. It is when you try to extrapolate these that you run into trouble -ie. your latest bugbear seems to be a gene-intelligence link (I think, maybe I've missed this week's 'intelligence' briefing). This kind of thinking is ethically and morally repugnant. And another thing, Mr. Science/strawman, your understanding of things scientific is backwards. Those who actually do the (real, mind you!) science enter into things with an open mind and then look at the results to draw conclusions, if at all. It is obvious to anyone with half a brain here on the boards that you already have your opinions/conclusions and just troll the internet looking for studies, dubious and uncontrolled as they are, to support them.

/don't you like to play baseball or something, instead of trying to promote some lame-brained antisemitism or to find reasons why some race is inferior? i promise you, you'll have more fun, feel better about yourself and won't be so keen to look for ghosts where none exist   

once again, thank you, comrade chimpsky for educating the peasants and spreading party ideology.

you are now eligible for purchasing a Lada automobile in the year 2016

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 24, 2008, 05:17:59 AM
"Hate" in this context being essentially any doctrination holding that there are people "better" than others based on genetically-predetermined factors. Bodybuilding.com would never align themselves with you tied to your current belief system and you are a fool for failing to realize this.

Exactly.

I like MattC, and do think he is an intelligent and well spoken person, and I am surprised he does not take this into account.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: BlueDevil on May 24, 2008, 05:50:35 AM
If I had a stuffed dummy wearing black socks with scrub pants and clogs I would burn that bitch in Matt C effigy at this very moment and the rest of this Getbig mob would cheer me on in doing so.  Nice work Matt. 

no dude

you'd put some make up on the dummy , pump yourself up a little and go out on hot date
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 05:52:51 AM
It's a wonder with our limited intelligences that we can even hang in here. I'm punching way over my weight.       :o    :D


Debussey agrees. Debusseys IQ = 53. MattCock = about 2,4528 times as intelligent as Debussey >:(
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: wes on May 24, 2008, 05:58:13 AM
Exactly.

I like MattC, and do think he is an intelligent and well spoken person, and I am surprised he does not take this into account.
A truly intelligent person who held the opinions on race that Matt does,would not speak so openly about them realizing that it could/would affect his business.

Sometimes it`s much smarter to just keep your opinions to yourself !

"Book smart" and a college education doesn`t guarantee that you have wisdom or good judgement.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 06:00:04 AM
This is not about a Jewish conspiracy. This is all about a Wooten conspiracy.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: SweetMuscles on May 24, 2008, 06:00:27 AM
if he had anything in his boxers he wouldnt be so bitter.

he hates blacks because they actually have cocks - instead of the shrunken balls//maggot dick combo he has. he hates Jews because they get to use their cocks more than his laughable baby penis

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=99475.0;attach=172403;image)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 24, 2008, 06:01:41 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 24, 2008, 06:04:15 AM
Boom!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: SweetMuscles on May 24, 2008, 06:08:06 AM
Boom!


looks like a retarded boy. again, notice that he has less bulge in his underwear than most women. he must have a micropenis. probably didn't grow from the day he was born. sexual indequates are often attracted to Nazism as it gives them a sense of power they simply cannot get from themselves
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 24, 2008, 06:10:50 AM
all joking aside if i saw this guy in my gym doing this by the "free weights".....i dunno if id laugh or get mad!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: SweetMuscles on May 24, 2008, 06:14:40 AM
I'm not joking Mr Arvilla. matt C has already admitted to me that his penis is very small and way below average. He just pretends not to care, but he does
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: kmhphoto on May 24, 2008, 07:12:47 AM
Boom!



I've been involved in this business for al long time but I have never seen anything as dumb as that.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: whateva on May 24, 2008, 07:13:13 AM
all joking aside if i saw this guy in my gym doing this by the "free weights".....i dunno if id laugh or get mad!

Check the guy in the background ,dropping the 40lbs dumbbells ,like they were 160 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 07:27:46 AM

I've been involved in this business for al long time but I have never seen anything as dumb as that.

why the fuck would he post that stupid video.  i felt embarassed for him watching it.  not a shred of muscle in sight.  was that his lame attempt at a muscle gallery video?  is he hoping a rich old queer would see his video and "take him under his wing?"
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 08:59:25 AM
why the fuck would he post that stupid video.  i felt embarassed for him watching it.  not a shred of muscle in sight.  was that his lame attempt at a muscle gallery video?  is he hoping a rich old queer would see his video and "take him under his wing?"


At least he's making more money in this sport than 99% of the IFBB pros ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 24, 2008, 09:00:33 AM
Did anyone else notice the old geezer stroll across in the background in a towel?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 09:01:39 AM
Did anyone else notice the old geezer stroll across in the background in a towel?

yes, after the viedo was off Matt serviced him.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 09:01:54 AM
Did anyone else notice the old geezer stroll across in the background in a towel?


Yes. Why did you have to mention it? >:(
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: kmhphoto on May 24, 2008, 09:20:15 AM
matt C has already admitted to me that his penis is very small and way below average.

Doesn't stop him being the biggest prick around though does it?
He must hate his parents for cutting a bit off the end at his brit mila
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 09:22:31 AM
Doesn't stop him being the biggest prick around though does it?
He must hate his parents for cutting a bit off the end at his brit mila

hahahahaha...that must be why he is so angry all the time.  must suck to have a little weiner.  i would be pissed too if i were him.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 10:02:21 AM
Now you're being disingenuous, Matt. No one in their right mind would deny their are physical race differences. Those are undeniable. It is when you try to extrapolate these that you run into trouble -ie. your latest bugbear seems to be a gene-intelligence link (I think, maybe I've missed this week's 'intelligence' briefing). This kind of thinking is ethically and morally repugnant. And another thing, Mr. Science/strawman, your understanding of things scientific is backwards. Those who actually do the (real, mind you!) science enter into things with an open mind and then look at the results to draw conclusions, if at all. It is obvious to anyone with half a brain here on the boards that you already have your opinions/conclusions and just troll the internet looking for studies, dubious and uncontrolled as they are, to support them.

/don't you like to play baseball or something, instead of trying to promote some lame-brained antisemitism or to find reasons why some race is inferior? i promise you, you'll have more fun, feel better about yourself and won't be so keen to look for ghosts where none exist   

Actually, that's not true.  This thread was from last year, when I was 25:

http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/showthread.php?t=3496

Look at how many studies Woten gave me!  You guys have given me ZERO.  Big fat ZERO, and yet you expect me to agree with you, in light of the fact that you KNOW I would only do that when given the science.

As you can see, my opinions were pretty well the polar opposite of what they are now.  Woten AKA Dan Duchaine, gave me the scientific research on the topic, and my opinions changed.

This is not an issue of hate, it's an issue of science and biology.  East Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites for example as proven through MRI scans.  But you guys expect me to deny what science has already proven.

And trust me, people DO deny the PHYSICAL differences amongst races.  In a first year sociology textbook at my university, they went so far to say that the athletic differences between males and females were "not obvious" and essentially denied the genetic physical advantage males have.  Don't you guys see that it's not an issue of hate, but an issue of preserving what science IS to me?  It bewilders me that you guys can't see this when I emphasize it in every post.  I just assume at this point that most don't even read my posts and fill in the blanks with strawmen.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 24, 2008, 10:07:36 AM
"I just assume at this point that most don't even read my posts and fill in the blanks with strawmen.Irony . It's obvious you didn't read mine."

Irony overload, Matt. Re-read my post, particularly the second and third sentences.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 10:09:40 AM
Actually, that's not true.  This thread was from last year, when I was 25:

http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/showthread.php?t=3496

Look at how many studies Woten gave me!  You guys have given me ZERO.  Big fat ZERO, and yet you expect me to agree with you, in light of the fact that you KNOW I would only do that when given the science.

As you can see, my opinions were pretty well the polar opposite of what they are now.  Woten AKA Dan Duchaine, gave me the scientific research on the topic, and my opinions changed.

This is not an issue of hate, it's an issue of science and biology.  East Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites for example as proven through MRI scans.  But you guys expect me to deny what science has already proven.

And trust me, people DO deny the PHYSICAL differences amongst races.  In a first year sociology textbook at my university, they went so far to say that the athletic differences between males and females were "not obvious" and essentially denied the genetic physical advantage males have.  Don't you guys see that it's not an issue of hate, but an issue of preserving what science IS to me?  It bewilders me that you guys can't see this when I emphasize it in every post.  I just assume at this point that most don't even read my posts and fill in the blanks with strawmen.

still doesn't explain why you post dozens of workout videos of yourself performing exercises with what can only be described as horrific form.  and what was the deal with that posing video?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: TroubleReady39 on May 24, 2008, 10:11:58 AM
Doesn't stop him being the biggest prick around though does it?
He must hate his parents for cutting a bit off the end at his brit mila

Holy Schnikeys, even the very overweight FLEX photograschmoe Mr. Kevin Horton is destroying Matt C in this thread.


You know you have it bad when FLEX photogs are cracking on you.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 10:13:18 AM
By the way, I never bring up these issues anymore.  They are also brought up, ala strawmen and lies, and I simply respond (sometimes, but even then I won't go into detail these days).

Give me the scientific studies and I will read ALL of them.  RIGHT NOW.  Put your money where your mouths are, all of you.  RIGHT NOW.

dr.chimps - you assume I am trying to come to a predetermined conclusion.  I'm not.  Also, I never said that science would prove a particular RACE will have a "dumb" gene or a "smart" gene, I said that in time, we will be able to identify the specific genes for intelligence, period.  Yes, that is an extrapolation, but not unreasonable given the totality of scientific evidence.

East Asians have more brain mass than white people and have an mean IQ of five points higher.  How is it racist to then acknowledge that it seems to be genetic?  Also, why should scientists ignore these findings?  Because they aren't politically correct?  In that case, I suppose Darwin should have never come out with his theory of evolution?  :)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 10:14:19 AM
still doesn't explain why you post dozens of workout videos of yourself performing exercises with what can only be described as horrific form.  and what was the deal with that posing video?

The form is bad sometimes, other times it is not bad (although on here, but on YouTube even MORE, the comments will only be negative).

My YouTube account is just a video log.  Not intended to be instructional in nature.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 10:14:46 AM
Actually, that's not true.  This thread was from last year, when I was 25:

http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/showthread.php?t=3496

Look at how many studies Woten gave me!  You guys have given me ZERO.  Big fat ZERO, and yet you expect me to agree with you, in light of the fact that you KNOW I would only do that when given the science.

As you can see, my opinions were pretty well the polar opposite of what they are now.  Woten AKA Dan Duchaine, gave me the scientific research on the topic, and my opinions changed.

This is not an issue of hate, it's an issue of science and biology.  East Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites for example as proven through MRI scans.  But you guys expect me to deny what science has already proven.

And trust me, people DO deny the PHYSICAL differences amongst races.  In a first year sociology textbook at my university, they went so far to say that the athletic differences between males and females were "not obvious" and essentially denied the genetic physical advantage males have.  Don't you guys see that it's not an issue of hate, but an issue of preserving what science IS to me?  It bewilders me that you guys can't see this when I emphasize it in every post.  I just assume at this point that most don't even read my posts and fill in the blanks with strawmen.


Unless the findings from the studies regarding black peoples lower intelligence = proven wrong with other studies, Debussey agrees with you as stated many times before when it comes to the "blacks = less intelligent, and it = of genetic origin".

So far, Debussey has not seen any other data, except some denial based statements without any substance.

Hold up the fort dear MattCock :-*
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 10:15:28 AM
By the way, I never bring up these issues anymore.  They are also brought up, ala strawmen and lies, and I simply respond (sometimes, but even then I won't go into detail these days).

Give me the scientific studies and I will read ALL of them.  RIGHT NOW.  Put your money where your mouths are, all of you.  RIGHT NOW.

dr.chimps - you assume I am trying to come to a predetermined conclusion.  I'm not.  Also, I never said that science would prove a particular RACE will have a "dumb" gene or a "smart" gene, I said that in time, we will be able to identify the specific genes for intelligence, period.  Yes, that is an extrapolation, but not unreasonable given the totality of scientific evidence.

East Asians have more brain mass than white people and have an mean IQ of five points higher.  How is it racist to then acknowledge that it seems to be genetic?  Also, why should scientists ignore these findings?  Because they aren't politically correct?  In that case, I suppose Darwin should have never come out with his theory of evolution?  :)

yet again avoiding the central question of why you post videos of yourself performing exercises improperly and unsafely?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 10:15:53 AM
Holy Schnikeys, even the very overweight FLEX photograschmoe Mr. Kevin Horton is destroying Matt C in this thread.


You know you have it bad when FLEX photogs are cracking on you.

Got it.

So the way to win a debate getbig is to insult someone and add no substance?  Always in attack mode on this board.  No one is safe.  You guys rip on Layne Norton for NO REASON at all.  Gunter has been bashed on here for crying out loud.  It's insane.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 10:17:06 AM
yet again avoiding the central question of why you post videos of yourself performing exercises improperly and unsafely?

Well...to be fair, read the title:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=501NGB1tM-A

I never said my form was great.  It is (in general) good, but not intended to be instructional.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Paul Allen on May 24, 2008, 10:17:39 AM
i don't need a scientific paper to tell me the dangers of being around coloreds, mentally and physically.   i just have to drive 20 minutes south.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: BlueDevil on May 24, 2008, 10:20:18 AM
By the way, I never bring up these issues anymore.  They are also brought up, ala strawmen and lies, and I simply respond (sometimes, but even then I won't go into detail these days).

Give me the scientific studies and I will read ALL of them.  RIGHT NOW.  Put your money where your mouths are, all of you.  RIGHT NOW.

dr.chimps - you assume I am trying to come to a predetermined conclusion.  I'm not.  Also, I never said that science would prove a particular RACE will have a "dumb" gene or a "smart" gene, I said that in time, we will be able to identify the specific genes for intelligence, period.  Yes, that is an extrapolation, but not unreasonable given the totality of scientific evidence.

East Asians have more brain mass than white people and have an mean IQ of five points higher.  How is it racist to then acknowledge that it seems to be genetic?  Also, why should scientists ignore these findings?  Because they aren't politically correct?  In that case, I suppose Darwin should have never come out with his theory of evolution?  :)

matt,

please stop discussing the subject at hand with commoners and peasants  :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 10:21:46 AM
Well...to be fair, read the title:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=501NGB1tM-A

I never said my form was great.  It is (in general) good, but not intended to be instructional.

lmao...not even close to being good.  are you showing someone how not to perform the exercises?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 10:22:49 AM
i don't need a scientific paper to tell me the dangers of being around coloreds, mentally and physically.   i just have to drive 20 minutes south.


;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Paul Allen on May 24, 2008, 10:24:09 AM

;D

ha ha, "they" are the worst.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 24, 2008, 10:27:27 AM
Well...to be fair, read the title:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=501NGB1tM-A

I never said my form was great.  It is (in general) good, but not intended to be instructional.

You need to stop jerking the weight. Pull the slack out of the bar and explosively squeeze the bar off the ground. Seriously, you'll pull more this way.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 10:28:39 AM
You need to stop jerking the weight. Pull the slack out of the bar and explosively squeeze the bar off the ground. Seriously, you'll pull more this way.

that's least of the things that are wrong with his deadlift form
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 10:28:43 AM
ha ha, "they" are the worst.

Well, who cares? In less than 100 years, genetic engineering will become so advanced that humans can tailor babies with higher intelligence, better looks and so on. Then, a couple of things can happen:

1: This technology will only be utilized by those with means, creating a genetically superior part of humanity, leaving those "genetically less fortunate" even further down the gutter.

2: This technology becomes available for most people, ending the self destruction of the "less fortunate" ones

(Of course, all this stuff will not happen if humanity destroys itself during the next 100 years)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: WhiteCastle on May 24, 2008, 10:32:45 AM
These videos are some of the gayest I have ever seen.  The deadlifting form is painful just to watch.



What's the point of demonstrating how to use these machines in a video?  The only way you can fuck it up is if you sit on it backwards, or if you lock out on the top of the press (which you do anyway).
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: TroubleReady39 on May 24, 2008, 10:35:03 AM
what i want to know...

who in the world did you get to follow you around the gym with a camcorder?

I mean, you're slow-mo posing in your undies in the bathroom, at a mean old bodyweight of 170.  What male friend had the courage to film this?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 24, 2008, 10:39:26 AM
By the way, I never bring up these issues anymore.  They are also brought up, ala strawmen and lies, and I simply respond (sometimes, but even then I won't go into detail these days).

Give me the scientific studies and I will read ALL of them.  RIGHT NOW.  Put your money where your mouths are, all of you.  RIGHT NOW.

dr.chimps - you assume I am trying to come to a predetermined conclusion.  I'm not.  Also, I never said that science would prove a particular RACE will have a "dumb" gene or a "smart" gene, I said that in time, we will be able to identify the specific genes for intelligence, period.  Yes, that is an extrapolation, but not unreasonable given the totality of scientific evidence.

East Asians have more brain mass than white people and have an mean IQ of five points higher.  How is it racist to then acknowledge that it seems to be genetic?  Also, why should scientists ignore these findings?  Because they aren't politically correct?  In that case, I suppose Darwin should have never come out with his theory of evolution?  :)
RIGHT NOW!?  What are you ten? Are you going to take your toys and go home. Look, all this race/intelligence was really ignited by the polemical book The Bell Curve (Weren't the two guys nailed for getting their funding from some eugenics institute.? I could be wrong). Since then, many others have come forward to refute these findings. I can google tit for tat studies with you on this. It won't give you any satisfaction as you have the blind devotion of the religious. Look, intelligence is very closely aligned with consciousness and that region is very nebulous at best and, probably, in many ways unknowable. You want to make black and white distinctions (sorry: not a pun) between races as to intelligence, well Craig Venter, the Human Genome guy [an attention whore not unlike yourself  ;) ], is on record as saying their is no link. Now, scientists are not infallible, and we should keep this in mind, but I'm going to go with his opinion over yours. You're always crowing about your intelligence and Mensa....you know what real studies say about that? It just means you are good at memorization and study and taking standardized tests - maybe a 'good' measure of intelligence but certainly a very indirect one. You want to know who I think are the most intelligent people, and I've met more than a few meteors like Stephen Jay Gould, Ed Said? Writers. That's right, particularly people who write novels...and they come in all sorts of sizes and colours.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 10:41:30 AM
RIGHT NOW!?  What are you ten? Are you going to take your toys and go home. Look, all this race/intelligence was really ignited by the polemical book The Bell Curve (Weren't the two guys nailed for getting their funding from some eugenics institute.? I could be wrong). Since then, many others have come forward to refute these findings. I can google tit for tat studies with you on this. It won't give you any satisfaction as you have the blind devotion of the religious. Look, intelligence is very closely aligned with consciousness and that region is very nebulous at best and, probably, in many ways unknowable. You want to make black and white distinctions (sorry: not a pun) between races as to intelligence, well Craig Venter, the Human Genome guy [an attention whore not unlike yourself  ;) ], is on record as saying their is no link. Now, scientists are not infallible, and we should keep this in mind, but I'm going to go with his opinion over yours. You're always crowing about your intelligence and Mensa....you know what real studies say about that? It just means you are good at memorization and study and taking standardized tests - maybe a 'good' measure of intelligence but certainly a very indirect one. You want to know who I think are the most intelligent people, and I've met more than a few meteors like Stephen Jay Gould, Ed Said? Writers. That's right, particularly people who write novels...and they come in all sorts of sizes and colours.

Your post will not be read if you do not have an IQ of 130 or beyond.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 24, 2008, 10:46:07 AM


My YouTube account is just a video log.  Not intended to be instructional in nature.

At the very beginning of every video it states "Exercise Demo"
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 24, 2008, 10:54:18 AM
that's least of the things that are wrong with his deadlift form

Sure, however the jerk leads to form breakdown because he isn't tight when he starts the lift. Take big lungful of air, keep it in, and squeeze the weight off = back more likely to stay straight.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on May 24, 2008, 10:54:59 AM
If you study people who have genius IQ's (or those who fight so hard for the Mensa list reaffirmation of themselves ala Matt C) you will find that while a great many of them are book smart and can "regurgitate" info that they have read......due to having an enhanced memory with statistics and factoids........a rather large number of the aforementioned people are socially inept, unable to relate in social situations. A great number of them are for lack of a better word "retarded" at deductive reasoning (or common sense). I am pretty sure thats the case here after reading thru some of Matt C's posts. He has confused the enhanced ability to remember something he has read with the actual ability of "constructive reasoning". Matt if you read War and Peace and remember whole chapters of it word for word, that doesnt mean you have the creative ability and thought process of Leo Tolstoy.....that means you have a pretty darn good memory.  Its nauseating reading some of your opinions and belief that they are warranted just because you have a greater than normal ability to "regurgitate" others work.... and that you deem yourself an elitist intelligence-wise because of it.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: BlueDevil on May 24, 2008, 10:56:58 AM
If you study people who have genius IQ's (or those who fight so hard for the Mensa list reaffirmation of themselves ala Matt C) you will find that while a great many of them are book smart and can "regurgitate" info that they have read......due to having an enhanced memory with statistics and factoids........a rather large number of the aforementioned people are socially inept, unable to relate in social situations. A great number of them are for lack of a better word "retarded" at deductive reasoning (or common sense). I am pretty sure thats the case here after reading thru some of Matt C's posts. He has confused the enhanced ability to remember something he has read with the actual ability of "constructive reasoning". Matt if you read War and Peace and remember whole chapters of it word for word, that doesnt mean you have the creative ability and thought process of Leo Tolstoy.....that means you have a pretty darn good memory.  Its nauseating reading some of your opinions and belief's that they are warranted just because you have a greater than normal ability to "regurgitate" others work.... and that you deem yourself an elitist intelligence-wise because of it.

crappy meltdown  :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on May 24, 2008, 10:58:19 AM
even crappier comeback.....its only been said 47 thousand times before you and got beyond old 46 thousand times ago
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: BlueDevil on May 24, 2008, 11:04:27 AM
even crappier comeback.....its only been said 47 thousand times before you and got beyond old 46 thousand times ago

let me rephrase squire

your analysis lacks solid scientific evidence but do not despair

if there would be a trophy for randomly putting as much nonsense as possible in writing you'd be awarded with it
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 11:05:14 AM
If you study people who have genius IQ's (or those who fight so hard for the Mensa list reaffirmation of themselves ala Matt C) you will find that while a great many of them are book smart and can "regurgitate" info that they have read......due to having an enhanced memory with statistics and factoids........a rather large number of the aforementioned people are socially inept, unable to relate in social situations. A great number of them are for lack of a better word "retarded" at deductive reasoning (or common sense). I am pretty sure thats the case here after reading thru some of Matt C's posts. He has confused the enhanced ability to remember something he has read with the actual ability of "constructive reasoning". Matt if you read War and Peace and remember whole chapters of it word for word, that doesnt mean you have the creative ability and thought process of Leo Tolstoy.....that means you have a pretty darn good memory.  Its nauseating reading some of your opinions and belief that they are warranted just because you have a greater than normal ability to "regurgitate" others work.... and that you deem yourself an elitist intelligence-wise because of it.

The core of MattC's opinions ARE based on scientific findings and unless solid counterevidence = posted, whether you get nausea or not from reading certain non PC statements is simply a worthless argument.

Debussey does think that MattCock takes his opinions a bit far at times, but the core belief that there = a pretty big probability for genetic differences between races that leads to average differences in intelligence = a fair belief, given the findings that exists. If that core message makes you nauseous, then so be it. If you really want to debate him on that particular belief, then find some solid science to refute his claims.

And your statements about IQ = off. A high IQ will normally mean that the person does not only have a better than average memory, but also a better ability to make sound statements based upon information presented to him/her, although they might be very controversial since most high IQ people values logical conclusions more than "fitting" their statements into the contemporary value systems of a given society. This often makes it looks like they are "socially inept", but in fact, they are simply being honest. And truth eventually always wins, while the value systems and norms of society changes according to the truth, but only after trying their best to fuck up the message and the messenger.

Does this mean that the honest high IQ person has "inferior" social skills, or does it mean that he has superior social skills if seen in a bigger context than having smooth interactions with the people he = in contact with? That is up to the person, but given that the existing social system he = in contact with is "dishonest" compared to superior logical conclusions, bowing to the inferior conclusions of the social system instead of having integrity and being honest when needed (this does not mean to tell everybody about your shit all the time, but in certain situations, it = needed) might actually be a good asset in your bag of social skills.

Making the interactions "flow" in a social setting is another thing, and it = dependant on your real time ability to calibrate your own behaviour both orally and via your body language to have the best possible impact when delivering your message, and it = very hard to assess MattCocks abilities in these areas based on the way he writes here. In real life, he probably delivers the message pretty well. He's been in the army, he has spent years in school, and he's been working in a club for years, so he's probably a pretty cool guy in real life.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: On_Swole on May 24, 2008, 11:24:21 AM
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0671027034.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 11:27:39 AM
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0671027034.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)


Great book, but only relevant to those stupid enough to post here under their real names ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 11:37:45 AM
a rather large number of the aforementioned people are socially inept, unable to relate in social situations.


"Small minds discuss people; Average minds discuss events; Great minds discuss ideas.ö -Eleanor Roosevelt


Explains why the great ignorant unwashed are far more interested in who is winning American Idol or what Britney is doing than in truly understanding the world around them.  "Social situations" are highly overrated in their relative importance.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 11:38:57 AM

"Small minds discuss people; Average minds discuss events; Great minds discuss ideas.ö -Eleanor Roosevelt


Explains why the great ignorant unwashed are far more interested in who is winning American Idol or what Britney is doing than in truly understanding the world around them.  "Social situations" are highly overrated in their relative importance.

B I N G O!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 24, 2008, 11:39:25 AM
EPIC thread!!!

Matt you have owned yourself harder than anyone ever could with these videos.
There goes your genius claims, anyone with 5IQ points wouldn't have post such shameful videos.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 11:40:13 AM
Wow, I'm bummed I missed last night's Matt C group owning.  :(




Worldwide Jewish conspiracy:      10
Matt C:      0


 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 11:41:10 AM
EPIC thread!!!

Matt you have owned yourself harder than anyone ever could with these videos.
There goes your genius claims, anyone with 5IQ points wouldn't have post such shameful videos.

If we ignore his reckless style of lifting, you gotta admit that he = a lot stronger than the average getbigger.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: McFarland on May 24, 2008, 11:41:35 AM
Matt take your idol Ryan Deluca for example.  Do you think that you would EVER find him on a public message board insisting that minorities are inferior?  Knowledge of the higher spiritual law supercedes all human logic in it's ability for it's practice to increase ones' quality of life and I am very certain that, given his huge business success he abides first and foremost by this higher set of rules.

And despite your brutal analytical skills and ability to process huge amounts of information you are blind to their utility making you worse than dumb.  Learn to see the forest as well as the trees.  Examine more gross patterns of behavior such as the one above. 
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 24, 2008, 11:42:58 AM
If we ignore his reckless style of lifting, you gotta admit that he = a lot stronger than the average getbigger.

Probably stronger than Arvilla.  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 11:43:35 AM
If we ignore his reckless style of lifting, you gotta admit that he = a lot stronger than the average getbigger.

please tell me you were being sarcastic.  and I'm still waiting on the explanation of that queer lockerroom posing session.  after i watched that I had to immediately go to Blink's college girl thread to be un-gayed.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 11:45:17 AM
yet again avoiding the central question of why you post videos of yourself performing exercises improperly and unsafely?

I admit, I get a excited and attempt to show off a little.  I won't deny the fact that when I hit a new max I like to share it.  Doing three deadlifts of 405 with textbook form would be better, but I imagine people would still be critical of it.  Case in point - even Justin Harris and Steve Kuclo had some negative comments on here, so you can't really win.

With every new video I personal video I post, I get 2-5 new subscribers, potentially friends of BayGBM.  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 11:45:24 AM
Matt take your idol Ryan Deluca for example.  Do you think that you would EVER find him on a public message board insisting that minorities are inferior?  Knowledge of the higher spiritual law supercedes all human logic in it's ability for it's practice to increase ones' quality of life and I am very certain that, given his huge business success he abides first and foremost by this higher set of rules.

Over time, regardless of the validity of MattCocks statements, swinging around the net posting very very controversial statements (again, regardless if they are true), might not be optimal if he wants to attain long term success in business.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 24, 2008, 11:45:43 AM
If we ignore his reckless style of lifting, you gotta admit that he = a lot stronger than the average getbigger.

I wouldn't call him strong not to mention muscular, with his weak persona I wouldn't be surprised if these half decent  weights are fake.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 11:46:28 AM
lmao...not even close to being good.  are you showing someone how not to perform the exercises?

Yes, in some videos I am.  It's important for people to learn not only from their mistakes, but the mistakes of others.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 11:46:46 AM
please tell me you were being sarcastic.  and I'm still waiting on the explanation of that queer lockerroom posing session.  after i watched that I had to immediately go to Blink's college girl thread to be un-gayed.

No. MAttCock = a lot stronger than the average getbigger. Plain and simple.

Given the amount of queers blowing drops of sperm on their computer screens while reading this site, his video fits right in ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 11:48:04 AM
I wouldn't call him strong not to mention muscular, with his weak persona I wouldn't be surprised if these half decent  weights are fake.

Explain why you think he has a weak persona.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 11:48:55 AM
These videos are some of the gayest I have ever seen.  The deadlifting form is painful just to watch.



What's the point of demonstrating how to use these machines in a video?  The only way you can fuck it up is if you sit on it backwards, or if you lock out on the top of the press (which you do anyway).

My website is predominantly for beginners, although there is some advanced info on there.  The videos in the demos section where the form is not good will be replaced.  It's just that I have so much on the go with that site that it's hard to keep up to date with everything.  It is only me managing the entire site.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 11:48:56 AM
Matt take your idol Ryan Deluca for example.  Do you think that you would EVER find him on a public message board insisting that minorities are inferior?  Knowledge of the higher spiritual law supercedes all human logic in it's ability for it's practice to increase ones' quality of life and I am very certain that, given his huge business success he abides first and foremost by this higher set of rules.


Matt's willingness to bluntly post unpopular ideas here under his own name shows a lack of insight given his desire to make money from that same audience (which in and of itself shows a lack of insight - I can think of about 10,000 more effective places to make money than in the "bodybuilding industry").
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 11:50:23 AM
what i want to know...

who in the world did you get to follow you around the gym with a camcorder?

I mean, you're slow-mo posing in your undies in the bathroom, at a mean old bodyweight of 170.  What male friend had the courage to film this?

Whoever my training partner is for the day.  I shoot some videos of them as well (I use my digital camera and not my camcorder though):

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 11:51:36 AM
Whoever my training partner is for the day.  I shoot some videos of them as well (I use my digital camera and not my camcorder though):



One thing Debussey wonders about: In almost EVERY picture and EVERY video, you and/or your friends are wearing clothes that seems like they have been found in a thrashcan. Where = your sense of decency? >:( >:( ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 24, 2008, 11:52:40 AM
Explain why you think he has a weak persona.



He is a classic case, he looks for diploma's/theories/unknown people/etc to give him respect and recognition.
He keeps giving himself compliments on everything, shit man, he even believe that he looks good enough to post a freaking posing video on nothing less than one of the worlds leading bodybuilding forums....talk about living in a bubble. 
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 24, 2008, 11:54:04 AM
Excellent post Doggcrapp.

A high IQ is all well and good, but does not guarantee real world success

I do not claim a high IQ, nor can mine be accurately tested as as far as I am aware there is no test in my native language therefore operating a test in another language would put me at a disadvantage - a commonly held opinion.

But - I will say this - I would not be so daft as to attempt to operate a web based business, be attempting to affiliate with larger web companies -  and put forth views which serve to alienate people - on the web.

My untested and possibly feeble IQ allows me to actually make a very, very good living as realistically speaking parroting tons of information is less useful than actually making good application of basic information.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 11:57:06 AM
Excellent post Doggcrapp.

I do not claim a high IQ, nor can mine be accurately tested as as far as I am aware there is no test in my native language therefore operating a test in another language would put me at a disadvantage - a commonly held opinion.



You can take an IQ test that is purely based on visual figures and/or numbers ;D

And you = correct. A high IQ does not guarantee real world success, but it can be a valuable asset to have, especially in certain areas like science. And it does correlate with many favorable things like lifespan and so on.

Ps: DogFucks post was full of crap >:(
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 24, 2008, 11:59:36 AM
You can take an IQ test that is purely based on visual figures and/or numbers ;D

But numbers are not my specialty

I only want to like one with writing and text based so I can score higher >:(
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:00:24 PM
RIGHT NOW!?  What are you ten? Are you going to take your toys and go home. Look, all this race/intelligence was really ignited by the polemical book The Bell Curve (Weren't the two guys nailed for getting their funding from some eugenics institute.? I could be wrong). Since then, many others have come forward to refute these findings. I can google tit for tat studies with you on this. It won't give you any satisfaction as you have the blind devotion of the religious. Look, intelligence is very closely aligned with consciousness and that region is very nebulous at best and, probably, in many ways unknowable. You want to make black and white distinctions (sorry: not a pun) between races as to intelligence, well Craig Venter, the Human Genome guy [an attention whore not unlike yourself  ;) ], is on record as saying their is no link. Now, scientists are not infallible, and we should keep this in mind, but I'm going to go with his opinion over yours. You're always crowing about your intelligence and Mensa....you know what real studies say about that? It just means you are good at memorization and study and taking standardized tests - maybe a 'good' measure of intelligence but certainly a very indirect one. You want to know who I think are the most intelligent people, and I've met more than a few meteors like Stephen Jay Gould, Ed Said? Writers. That's right, particularly people who write novels...and they come in all sorts of sizes and colours.

Give me the data and I will read it.  Don't think I won't change my opinion if you give me the data.  Rest assured, I will.

It's sort of like supplements.  I look at the totality of available data that is out there for any given supplement.

Matt take your idol Ryan Deluca for example.  Do you think that you would EVER find him on a public message board insisting that minorities are inferior?  Knowledge of the higher spiritual law supercedes all human logic in it's ability for it's practice to increase ones' quality of life and I am very certain that, given his huge business success he abides first and foremost by this higher set of rules.

And despite your brutal analytical skills and ability to process huge amounts of information you are blind to their utility making you worse than dumb.  Learn to see the forest as well as the trees.  Examine more gross patterns of behavior such as the one above. 

Strawman.  Show me the white man who has ran the 100M in under 10 seconds!  You can't, you won't.  ;D

CQ pointed out that it is wise not to talk about religion and politics.  However, I think it is only unwise to do so when you are talking to DUMB people.  For example, for those who subscribe to the egalitarian agenda, go to a redneck and explain your point of view and let me know how that goes over.  It's not that these issues can't be discussed, they simply can't be discussed with dumb people.  :)

Talking to SMART people about religion, politics, or what have you is NOT a bad thing from my vantage point.

But I will not bring up these issues on here ever again.  If people continue to badger me and bring it up, that is another issue.  I will not be talking about these things on THIS board ever again.  As Ron said, it's just clutter on the G&O - it should be posted in the politics board or elsewhere.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 12:00:35 PM
Why does a large and profitable site like bb.com even allow this racist to be one of its partners?  I guess bb.com by affiliating itself with racists like Matt Canning is itself a racists.  I wonder how that sits with all of their black customers or their jewish customers to know that one of bb.com's partners is spewing this nonsense.  makes you wonder what would happen if someone were to, for example, send a collection of Matt Canning's posts to the bb.com powers to be.  I wonder what would happen...
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 12:02:06 PM
You can take an IQ test that is purely based on visual figures and/or numbers ;D

And you = correct. A high IQ does not guarantee real world success, but it can be a valuable asset to have, especially in certain areas like science. And it does correlate with many favorable things like lifespan and so on.

Ps: DogFucks post was full of crap >:(



A high IQ can be a handicap to financial success unless you posses patience and discipline.  Beyond a certain level of intelligence, you begin to regard 90% of humanity as a group of dumb animals, which from your perspective they are, but if you treat them that way your results in society will be less than optimal.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 12:04:01 PM


Talking to SMART people about religion, politics, or what have you is NOT a bad thing from my vantage point.



The problem is that when you post something here, both smart and dumb people reads it, and as we know: There are far more dumb people than smart people around.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 24, 2008, 12:04:13 PM
Matt, cut it out man..

You just don't get it. This isn't the place to peddle these kinds of issues.   ::)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 12:04:27 PM
If Matt C uses the word "strawman" one more time, I'm going to vomit.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:04:33 PM
At the very beginning of every video it states "Exercise Demo"

No, it says go to the exercise demos section on my website, and in a lot of the cases, the videos I post in my YouTube are not even on there.  Confusing I know.  I just wanted to get the traffic.  I've since been adding other links to my website since the goal is simply to get people to the website.  Once they are there, they will browse around.  Also, some of the clips with poor form are used on my website as examples of just that - how to lift using poor form.  If you read the comments, even when I use great form, they are negative (also go to Ron Harris' YouTube account for more of the same):

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 24, 2008, 12:06:18 PM
Why does a large and profitable site like bb.com even allow this racist to be one of its partners?  I guess bb.com by affiliating itself with racists like Matt Canning is itself a racists.  I wonder how that sits with all of their black customers or their jewish customers to know that one of bb.com's partners is spewing this nonsense.  makes you wonder what would happen if someone were to, for example, send a collection of Matt Canning's posts to the bb.com powers to be.  I wonder what would happen...


I think you just gave me a good idea that combines 300$,240's made site,Matt's BS and lots of emails.
Hmm....this might be bad for Matt business  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 12:06:44 PM

A high IQ can be a handicap to financial success unless you posses patience and discipline.  Beyond a certain level of intelligence, you begin to regard 90% of humanity as a group of dumb animals, which from your perspective they are, but if you treat them that way your results in society will be less than optimal.

Exactly.

Having to "dumb down" your communication and deal with percieved ? inferiors might be pretty energy consuming after a while.

Well, given that a very intelligent person wants to earn teh dollars, then that person has to pay the price and deal with everybody. There is no free lunch ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 12:07:33 PM

I think you just gave me a good idea that combines 300$,240's made site,Matt's BS and lots of emails.
Hmm....this might be bad for Matt business  ;D


...and the 240 wealth machine rolls on, $300 at a time.    ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 12:07:46 PM

I think you just gave me a good idea that combines 300$,240's made site,Matt's BS and lots of emails.
Hmm....this might be bad for Matt business  ;D

hahahahaha. . .then who's inferior bitch?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 24, 2008, 12:08:02 PM

CQ pointed out that it is wise not to talk about religion and politics.   However, I think it is only unwise to do so when you are talking to DUMB people.  For example, for those who subscribe to the egalitarian agenda, go to a redneck and explain your point of view and let me know how that goes over.  It's not that these issues can't be discussed, they simply can't be discussed with dumb people.  :)

Talking to SMART people about religion, politics, or what have you is NOT a bad thing from my vantage point.

But I will not bring up these issues on here ever again.  If people continue to badger me and bring it up, that is another issue.  I will not be talking about these things on THIS board ever again.  As Ron said, it's just clutter on the G&O - it should be posted in the politics board or elsewhere.

MattC, you are my mate, but with your high IQ surely you should be able to read my two posts correctly? ;D

I never said that whatsoever.

In fact I myself discuss politics way more than you do, I half-live in the politics sub forum.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 24, 2008, 12:08:45 PM

...and the 240 wealth machine rolls on, $300 at a time.    ;D

No way...240 is going to donate this site  ;D
The 300$ remark was just a hint of what to come.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:09:19 PM
If you study people who have genius IQ's (or those who fight so hard for the Mensa list reaffirmation of themselves ala Matt C) you will find that while a great many of them are book smart and can "regurgitate" info that they have read......due to having an enhanced memory with statistics and factoids........a rather large number of the aforementioned people are socially inept, unable to relate in social situations. A great number of them are for lack of a better word "retarded" at deductive reasoning (or common sense). I am pretty sure thats the case here after reading thru some of Matt C's posts. He has confused the enhanced ability to remember something he has read with the actual ability of "constructive reasoning". Matt if you read War and Peace and remember whole chapters of it word for word, that doesnt mean you have the creative ability and thought process of Leo Tolstoy.....that means you have a pretty darn good memory.  Its nauseating reading some of your opinions and belief that they are warranted just because you have a greater than normal ability to "regurgitate" others work.... and that you deem yourself an elitist intelligence-wise because of it.

Translated: I have no scientific evidence to rebut Matt C's claims, so I will attack him instead.

Is that it?

Why not just stick to the issue at hand here?

Also, as Debussey has stated on here before, it is in the good of a society to have a population with an overall higher mean IQ.  Yes, some just have incredible memory - e.g., my ability to beat chess.com on hard mode EVERY time in under 60 seconds (owned)  ;D, but overall, a higher IQ populace is a good thing.  I think people who are not very intelligent use the idea of social ineptness among the intelligent as an excuse, although I do agree it definitely applies to some.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 24, 2008, 12:09:44 PM
I think Matt lets this Woten character define his opinions.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: 240 is Back on May 24, 2008, 12:10:48 PM

I think you just gave me a good idea that combines 300$,240's made site,Matt's BS and lots of emails.
Hmm....this might be bad for Matt business  ;D

nah, I avoid political sites, and sites of vengence.  Too much drama!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: McFarland on May 24, 2008, 12:12:21 PM
I think Matt C enjoys being gang-raped by strawmen with hard wooden sawed-off table legs strapped on as cocks.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 12:13:04 PM
nah, I avoid political sites, and sites of vengence.  Too much drama!

did someone say $300 websites?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:15:16 PM
please tell me you were being sarcastic.  and I'm still waiting on the explanation of that queer lockerroom posing session.  after i watched that I had to immediately go to Blink's college girl thread to be un-gayed.

Yes, that clip was pretty gay for a myriad of reasons.  Notice, I didn't post any others like that, lol.

However, I agree with Debussey that it would appear that I'm stronger than the average getbigger, even adjusting for my shit form.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 12:16:19 PM
One thing Debussey wonders about: In almost EVERY picture and EVERY video, you and/or your friends are wearing clothes that seems like they have been found in a thrashcan. Where = your sense of decency? >:( >:( ;D

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 24, 2008, 12:16:35 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:20:49 PM
He is a classic case, he looks for diploma's/theories/unknown people/etc to give him respect and recognition.
He keeps giving himself compliments on everything, shit man, he even believe that he looks good enough to post a freaking posing video on nothing less than one of the worlds leading bodybuilding forums....talk about living in a bubble. 

Nothing but attacks still...

I only talk about my achievements when bashed.  I don't bring them up out of nowhere.  Also, my clips are not intended to make me look good, just track my progress.

There is no rhyme nor reason to some of the attacks on here.  Bashing Bob for beating Rusty Jeffers at the 2006 Master's World doesn't even make sense.  I suppose the theory which BB.com bought him the title is reasonable to bring up.  The Golden Rule: He Who Has the Gold Makes the Rules.  No doubt, that is true of a lot of things in the world.

Having said that, what about the SIX COMPETITORS who also beat Rusty?  Why do they NEVER get mentioned?  At least if you are going to bash someone and proclaim to be using logic, bring these discussions to their logical conclusion.  Is that an unreasonable demand?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: McFarland on May 24, 2008, 12:21:12 PM
Matt you exhibit a very interesting form of self-loathing hidden deep in your subconscious that prompts you to short-circuit every real-world opportunity you have to improve yourgeneral condition.  Making money to you is but a secondary concern; your first and foremost agenda is to piss on the rest of the world in an attempt to compensate for your own subconsciously-perceived shortcomings.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 24, 2008, 12:22:44 PM
nah, I avoid political sites, and sites of vengence.  Too much drama!

Chicken shit! A simple site that will store all of Matt racist shit so we can send a link anyone who affiliates with him.

BTW Matt...when you took the picture with Phil did you tell him that you think he should be your slave....ohh... I guessed not....fucking pussy.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 12:23:37 PM
Chicken shit! A simple site that will store all of Matt racist shit so we can send a link anyone who affiliates with him.

BTW Matt...when you took the picture with Phil did you tell him that you think he should be your slave....ohh... I guessed not....fucking pussy.

Phils IQ is probably well above 100, so he = cool in MattCocks book. ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 24, 2008, 12:25:22 PM
Phils IQ is probably well above 100, so he = cool in MattCocks book. ;D

Matt should confront Ronnie.

"Wudz you talking about maine? Thank u jesuz!"
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:26:17 PM
Excellent post Doggcrapp.

A high IQ is all well and good, but does not guarantee real world success

I do not claim a high IQ, nor can mine be accurately tested as as far as I am aware there is no test in my native language therefore operating a test in another language would put me at a disadvantage - a commonly held opinion.

But - I will say this - I would not be so daft as to attempt to operate a web based business, be attempting to affiliate with larger web companies -  and put forth views which serve to alienate people - on the web.

My untested and possibly feeble IQ allows me to actually make a very, very good living as realistically speaking parroting tons of information is less useful than actually making good application of basic information.



In the Canadian Forces, 5% of people would bitch that courses were TOO HARD.

The CF made the courses easier trying to appease these people.

95% of the people would then bitch they are TOO EASY.

Not only did this make more people angry, it subsequently reduced the strength of the Canadian military, bringing everyone down to the level of the lowest common denominator.  :-\

Trust me, despite appearances, those who follow politically correct doctrine are in the minority.  Most people get really annoyed with PC garbage.  Rest assured, I am a well networked person and people respect me MORE for being the way that I am.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 12:26:51 PM
Chicken shit! A simple site that will store all of Matt racist shit so we can send a link anyone who affiliates with him.

BTW Matt...when you took the picture with Phil did you tell him that you think he should be your slave....ohh... I guessed not....fucking pussy.

Excellent point.  Pull up all the pics he has posted with all the black competitors.  Matt being the stand up, outspoken, unapologetic smart guy that he is sure told all of them how inferior they are, right?  What a puss.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 12:28:03 PM
Matt should confront Ronnie.

"Wudz you talking about maine? Thank u jesuz!"

Wikipedia claims Ronnie graduated cum laude, and if that's true, his IQ = above 100 as well.

Perhaps Chris Cormier = a suitable target ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 24, 2008, 12:28:46 PM
Excellent point.  Pull up all the pics he has posted with all the black competitors.  Matt being the stand up, outspoken, unapologetic smart guy that he is sure told all of them how inferior they are, right?  What a puss.

                       ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 24, 2008, 12:31:11 PM
Wikipedia claims Ronnie graduated cum laude, and if that's true, his IQ = above 100 as well.

Perhaps Chris Cormier = a suitable target ;D

Um.. He went to an all black University.  :-X

You're probably right though. I think his accent makes him appear dim.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 24, 2008, 12:32:13 PM
Strawman.  Show me the white man who has ran the 100M in under 10 seconds!  You can't, you won't.  ;D
Why do you insist on conflating the physical with the intellectual!? Everybody and their mother knows there are physical differences between the races, be they medical or appearances. It is the gene/intellectual link that is, quite rightly, getting you in trouble. 

Homo Sapiens - us today - have only been on this planet a very, very short period of time in regards to evolution. Certainly not long enough that any genetic variation between the races and intelligence will out, that cannot be controlled in some statistical manner. For example, I'll go on record as saying that I'm probably 99.99% smarter than anyone from Africa as tested by some standardized exam. 'Course when you factor in things like just trying to stay alive on pennies a day or other means of subsistence rather than making sure your subscription to Scientific American, etc. is renewed, that should come as no surprise.  ::)   ;)

/and i like doggcrapp's point. i've made it before, but he says it more eloquently than me. matt is a smart guy but seems incapable of either any extemporaneous thought or to be able synthesize what he has 'learned' in his own words - he just can't veer off script
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:32:33 PM
Why does a large and profitable site like bb.com even allow this racist to be one of its partners?  I guess bb.com by affiliating itself with racists like Matt Canning is itself a racists.  I wonder how that sits with all of their black customers or their jewish customers to know that one of bb.com's partners is spewing this nonsense.  makes you wonder what would happen if someone were to, for example, send a collection of Matt Canning's posts to the bb.com powers to be.  I wonder what would happen...

The guys at BB.com got where they did because they were SMART.  Smart people who tend not to cut ties with an affiliate who is in their top 25 of over 8,000.  ::)

As I said, the BB.com guys are smart and as such would realize that the majority of criticism towards me is nothing more than mindless banter from anonymous members.  In fact, as more and more members of getbig bash various people within the industry, it ends up hurting the credibility of this site more than anything.  Although personally I do like the freedom of speech on this board, you can't deny that it is taken way too far at times.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 12:33:41 PM
Um.. He went to an all black University.  :-X

You're probably right though. I think his accent makes him appear dim.

The weird thing is, if you look at his very early videos, he spoke a lot more clearly and coherently. Now he seems "dulled down".

Chris Cormier on the other hand, is a suitable target for MattCock. He might even be more prone to use violence.  ;D

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:34:55 PM
Matt, cut it out man..

You just don't get it. This isn't the place to peddle these kinds of issues.   ::)

I'm not even bringing anything new up at this point.  Just addressing attacks.  Why not address that the board stop attacking me?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 24, 2008, 12:36:08 PM
The guys at BB.com got where they did because they were SMART.  Smart people who tend not to cut ties with an affiliate who is in their top 25 of over 8,000.  ::)

As I said, the BB.com guys are smart and as such would realize that the majority of criticism towards me is nothing more than mindless banter from anonymous members.  In fact, as more and more members of getbig bash various people within the industry, it ends up hurting the credibility of this site more than anything.  Although personally I do like the freedom of speech on this board, you can't deny that it is taken way too far at times.

                                                               ?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:37:51 PM
MattC, you are my mate, but with your high IQ surely you should be able to read my two posts correctly? ;D

I never said that whatsoever.

In fact I myself discuss politics way more than you do, I half-live in the politics sub forum.

But you meant talking about controversial issues WHILE in business though right?

Exactly.

I like MattC, and do think he is an intelligent and well spoken person, and I am surprised he does not take this into account.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 12:39:23 PM
But you meant talking about controversial issues WHILE in business though right?


You still have not adressed Debusseys post about you wearing ugly clothes. DO IT.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 12:39:27 PM
The guys at BB.com got where they did because they were SMART.  Smart people who tend not to cut ties with an affiliate who is in their top 25 of over 8,000.  ::)

As I said, the BB.com guys are smart and as such would realize that the majority of criticism towards me is nothing more than mindless banter from anonymous members.  In fact, as more and more members of getbig bash various people within the industry, it ends up hurting the credibility of this site more than anything.  Although personally I do like the freedom of speech on this board, you can't deny that it is taken way too far at times.

well, maybe some enterprising genetically inferior young lad (or lass) will do just what I said and see what happens.  At some point doesn't affiliation with a racist hurt their business?  Especially if that affiliation is made public on all of the major boards?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:40:10 PM
One thing Debussey wonders about: In almost EVERY picture and EVERY video, you and/or your friends are wearing clothes that seems like they have been found in a thrashcan. Where = your sense of decency? >:( >:( ;D

No excuse.  :-\
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 24, 2008, 12:40:49 PM
Yes, that clip was pretty gay for a myriad of reasons.  Notice, I didn't post any others like that, lol.

However, I agree with Debussey that it would appear that I'm stronger than the average getbigger, even adjusting for my shit form.
OK, Matt here is a good example for you in regards to intelligence. You might appreciate it; it's trite but practical. Look to the above where you wrote 'a myriad.' Myriad basically means 'many' it needs no other enhancement such as 'a.' It's a simple vocab pointer, but as you are so fond of telling others, it is an indication of one's intelligence and thought processes. It could not be a simple oversight on your part.  ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 12:41:18 PM
No excuse.  :-\

Buy some new clothes.  >:(
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 24, 2008, 12:41:37 PM

Trust me, despite appearances, those who follow politically correct doctrine are in the minority.  Most people get really annoyed with PC garbage.  Rest assured, I am a well networked person and people respect me MORE for being the way that I am.

Matt, you are going further offbase and making less sense.

My points have all been in business, and saying it - not thinking it.

It is near ludicrous to suggest that publically preaching hate, inferiority and antisemitism is the majority in business. Let's see Microsoft come out with the next Windows with a tagline line "Invented by Asians as they are more intelligent". Let's see Nike bring out the next shoes saying "Shoes to help white guys run quicker as they are genetically inferior athletes". Walmart run an advert "Cheap prices for Jews as they are cheap!"

All big business is PC. If they want the largest market share available, it is the wisest decision.

You are the face of your business here, you use this board as a marketing tool. My main point was it would be advisable not to alientate people in order to achieve maximum revenue. That is Business 101.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:43:00 PM
Matt you exhibit a very interesting form of self-loathing hidden deep in your subconscious that prompts you to short-circuit every real-world opportunity you have to improve yourgeneral condition.  Making money to you is but a secondary concern; your first and foremost agenda is to piss on the rest of the world in an attempt to compensate for your own subconsciously-perceived shortcomings.

Nope, making money is my primary concern.

I will give you this Jeff, you understand me better than most and are correct about me about 85% of the time - more than almost anyone I know online or off.  I can also concede when you point out my flaws if they are correct, but in this case you are not.

For example, if I hated my physique so much, why wouldn't I just use steroids to mask my genetic inferiority?  What would stop me from doing that?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 12:44:56 PM
Nope, making money is my primary concern.

I will give you this Jeff, you understand me better than most and are correct about me about 85% of the time - more than almost anyone I know online or off.  I can also concede when you point out my flaws if they are correct, but in this case you are not.

For example, if I hated my physique so much, why wouldn't I just use steroids to mask my genetic inferiority?  What would stop me from doing that?


You have written about being tempted to use steroids many times ;D

ops.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:45:01 PM
Chicken shit! A simple site that will store all of Matt racist shit so we can send a link anyone who affiliates with him.

BTW Matt...when you took the picture with Phil did you tell him that you think he should be your slave....ohh... I guessed not....fucking pussy.

Yes, because that is what I said, right?  Moron.

I would be perfectly happy to discuss any of these issues with people of any race at any time.  I'm never afraid to discuss scientific studies which may offend others.  Imagine poor Charles Darwin having to introduce evolution to the world.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:46:21 PM
Excellent point.  Pull up all the pics he has posted with all the black competitors.  Matt being the stand up, outspoken, unapologetic smart guy that he is sure told all of them how inferior they are, right?  What a puss.

Where did I say this again?  Did you have a quote handy for me, since I would like to refresh my memory.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 12:47:15 PM
Yes, because that is what I said, right?  Moron.

I would be perfectly happy to discuss any of these issues with people of any race at any time.  I'm never afraid to discuss scientific studies which may offend others.  Imagine poor Charles Darwin having to introduce evolution to the world.

hahahahaha...Matt comparing himself to Darwin.  That's simply precious.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on May 24, 2008, 12:47:58 PM
Limitations
 
Leonardo da Vinci is acknowledged as having been a genius and a polymath.Geniuses are often accused of lacking common sense, or emotional sensitivity. Stories of a genius in a given field being unable to grasp "everyday" concepts are abundant and of ancient vintage: in his dialog TheŠtetus, Plato offers a picturesque anecdote of the absentmindedness of Thales. Some individuals in this arena of "absent-minded professors" and persons lacking normal social skills fall in the autism spectrum (such as Asperger syndrome). A genius's intense focus on a given subject might appear obsessive-compulsive (height, looks, jews) in nature, but it might also simply be a choice made by the individual. If one is performing groundbreaking work in one's field, maintaining other elements of life might logically be relegated to insignificance.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: warrior_code on May 24, 2008, 12:50:28 PM
Phils IQ is probably well above 100, so he = cool in MattCocks book. ;D

Where did he state that general trends of certain genetic traits that correspond to one's ethnicity justifies slavery?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:51:15 PM
Why do you insist on conflating the physical with the intellectual!? Everybody and their mother knows there are physical differences between the races, be they medical or appearances. It is the gene/intellectual link that is, quite rightly, getting you in trouble. 

Homo Sapiens - us today - have only been on this planet a very, very short period of time in regards to evolution. Certainly not long enough that any genetic variation between the races and intelligence will out, that cannot be controlled in some statistical manner. For example, I'll go on record as saying that I'm probably 99.99% smarter than anyone from Africa as tested by some standardized exam. 'Course when you factor in things like just trying to stay alive on pennies a day or other means of subsistence rather than making sure your subscription to Scientific American, etc. is renewed, that should come as no surprise.  ::)   ;)

/and i like doggcrapp's point. i've made it before, but he says it more eloquently than me. matt is a smart guy but seems incapable of either any extemporaneous thought or to be able synthesize what he has 'learned' in his own words - he just can't veer off script

It may be a little bit of a stretch to suggest that we will find the gene which specifically relates to intelligence, but based on what we know of genetics already, I don't think it is silly to suggest that day will come.  We can already tell the differences between brain mass of different races using MRI scans.

I don't want to discuss these issues here because I will just deal with more strawmen, and it's getting so ridiculous that even linking to studies which prove what I'm saying to be true is considered "racist" on here.

Your last comment about me is very accurate!  Although I don't really think DC should get credit for it.  If so, I would say that you summarized it better.  In general, I am very good at recognizing good information and distinguishing it from the bad, although I am a lot less good at coming up with my own original findings.  That I agree with.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 12:53:52 PM
hahahahaha...Matt comparing himself to Darwin.  That's simply precious.

Idiot. He = not directly comparing himself to Darwin, he's making an example with some relevance to the situation he is in when it comes to scientific facts vs "what's socially accepted" and the process that goes on before the new truth is established in the social system.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: SweetMuscles on May 24, 2008, 12:55:08 PM
an IQ is nothing special. I can't believe you're talking about this guy as being super intelligent. maybe you are all some low-IQ fuckers but 130 is nothing to start jacking off about.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 12:55:08 PM
Walmart run an advert "Cheap prices for Jews as they are cheap!"



No self-respecting Jewbie would shop at Wal Mart!  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:55:30 PM
well, maybe some enterprising genetically inferior young lad (or lass) will do just what I said and see what happens.  At some point doesn't affiliation with a racist hurt their business?  Especially if that affiliation is made public on all of the major boards?

No, it's only an affiliation with a perceived racist by people who are dumb.  BB.com is smart enough to realize that it is not the norm and is not the truth.  Clearly based on the thousands of visitors I get each day on my website as well as the 300 e-mails, most do not agree with you.

Believe me, there are other affiliate programs who would swoop me up in a minute if BB.com cut the ties with me.  As it is, they do a lot for me and vice versa, and after seeing many businesses in my day, I have not seen any better than them.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: warrior_code on May 24, 2008, 12:56:21 PM
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
   
-Arthur Schopenhauer

look to chiropractics for a modern day example of the above, or even the idea of extra terrestrial life. 
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: emn1964 on May 24, 2008, 12:57:04 PM
No, it's only an affiliation with a perceived racist by people who are dumb.  BB.com is smart enough to realize that it is not the norm and is not the truth.  Clearly based on the thousands of visitors I get each day on my website as well as the 300 e-mails, most do not agree with you.

Believe me, there are other affiliate programs who would swoop me up in a minute if BB.com cut the ties with me.  As it is, they do a lot for me and vice versa, and after seeing many businesses in my day, I have not seen any better than them.

hahahaha. . .ok smart guy, wanna test your theory?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 12:57:45 PM
an IQ is nothing special. I can't believe you're talking about this guy as being super intelligent. maybe you are all some low-IQ fuckers but 130 is nothing to start jacking off about.

About 1/50 has an IQ above 130. That means that it should be about 412 members with 130+ IQ's on Getbig.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 12:57:49 PM
OK, Matt here is a good example for you in regards to intelligence. You might appreciate it; it's trite but practical. Look to the above where you wrote 'a myriad.' Myriad basically means 'many' it needs no other enhancement such as 'a.' It's a simple vocab pointer, but as you are so fond of telling others, it is an indication of one's intelligence and thought processes. It could not be a simple oversight on your part.  ;)

Yes, this is true.  I take accountability for my error.  This is a large reason why I like reading Shawn Perrine's articles in FLEX so much - his vocabulary is so rich and articulate, I find myself learning something new every time.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 24, 2008, 12:59:39 PM
It may be a little bit of a stretch to suggest that we will find the gene which specifically relates to intelligence, but based on what we know of genetics already, I don't think it is silly to suggest that day will come.  We can already tell the differences between brain mass of different races using MRI scans.

I don't want to discuss these issues here because I will just deal with more strawmen, and it's getting so ridiculous that even linking to studies which prove what I'm saying to be true is considered "racist" on here.

Your last comment about me is very accurate!  Although I don't really think DC should get credit for it.  If so, I would say that you summarized it better.  In general, I am very good at recognizing good information and distinguishing it from the bad, although I am a lot less good at coming up with my own original findings.  That I agree with.
Hmm. Well, I think you may find some genes for thinking, but I fear that intelligence is too closely related to consciousness for any true understanding. Indirectly, maybe. It is the old adage: If we were smart enough to understand how our brain worked then our brain would be of  too simple a structure, and thus we could not understand how it worked ie. the sum is truly greater than the parts. It is a koan that perhaps only Debussey could possibly truly understand.    :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 01:00:14 PM
maybe you are all some low-IQ fuckers but 130 is nothing to start jacking off about.


Well, 130 is two standard deviations above the mean, meaning that 97.725% of the population has an IQ under this level.  Of course, that doesn't mean that Matt actually has an IQ of 130, nor does it mean that if he does he also possesses discipline or judgement.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 01:01:05 PM
It is a koan that perhaps only Debussey could possible truly understand.    :D

Gary Busey has already understood it. That is why he = god. The holy master of penis.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 24, 2008, 01:01:33 PM


No self-respecting Jewbie would shop at Wal Mart!  ;D
Nor would they buy anything cheap! Inexpensive, yes.  :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 01:03:29 PM
Matt, you are going further offbase and making less sense.

My points have all been in business, and saying it - not thinking it.

It is near ludicrous to suggest that publically preaching hate, inferiority and antisemitism is the majority in business. Let's see Microsoft come out with the next Windows with a tagline line "Invented by Asians as they are more intelligent". Let's see Nike bring out the next shoes saying "Shoes to help white guys run quicker as they are genetically inferior athletes". Walmart run an advert "Cheap prices for Jews as they are cheap!"

All big business is PC. If they want the largest market share available, it is the wisest decision.

You are the face of your business here, you use this board as a marketing tool. My main point was it would be advisable not to alientate people in order to achieve maximum revenue. That is Business 101.


Yes, I wasn't clear about it, but what you are saying here is pretty well how I interpreted your posts.  It is bad for business to be controversial.  But I disagree with you about publicly preaching hate.  As I said, I can post a link to a scientific study showing the MRI scans of Asian brains compared to white brains and it would be "publicly preaching hate."  Saying "Posting scientific facts which may be DEEMED by some as publicly preaching hate" would be another thing.  Just because the dim posters on here deem it as such doesn't make it so, but since they may make up a brunt of supplement consumers, appeasing them may be wise.  Having said that, there are always a number of things to balance.  I like my public persona on here and don't plan to change it, although I won't be bringing up political issues on here anymore.  Let's see if others will stop bringing them up in my threads now.

Science is what it is - science.  No agenda, no hate, just science.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: wes on May 24, 2008, 01:03:37 PM
Can you say strawman?????????????  ::)

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1279/1215783921_d5a680e00f.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 01:04:33 PM

You have written about being tempted to use steroids many times ;D

ops.

Yes I consider it, but at the end of the day would rather not potentially screw up my endocrine system.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 01:06:46 PM
hahahahaha...Matt comparing himself to Darwin.  That's simply precious.

That's not what I meant.  Allow me to expand on that:

Scientific research is morally neutral. It is the best system we have to determine truth and can never be immoral in and of itself. But it often takes time for the public to accept scientific consensus and during that transitional period there may be tensions, especially if the scientific data counters strong personal beliefs. The initial reaction to Darwin's observation of evolution was negative as the adaptation of species is not something readily observable, and the idea that humans and apes have a common ancestor is malediction to those who see human beings as special or the creations of a god.  But we must always aspire to seek truth even while it may be controversial.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 01:12:10 PM

Well, 130 is two standard deviations above the mean, meaning that 97.725% of the population has an IQ under this level.  Of course, that doesn't mean that Matt actually has an IQ of 130, nor does it mean that if he does he also possesses discipline or judgement.

True on the last part.  There is more to intelligence than IQ, although in general, I consider it to be a very good indicator/predictor of many things.

I don't imagine there is any way I could prove to anyone my IQ is what it is, even if I wrote a test which they invigilated.

Maybe that is why TA never posted his deadlift clip?  Even if he had posted it, I doubt people would believe him.  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 01:13:39 PM
True on the last part.  There is more to intelligence than IQ, although in general, I consider it to be a very good indicator/predictor of many things.

I don't imagine there is any way I could prove to anyone my IQ is what it is, even if I wrote a test which they invigilated.

Maybe that is why TA never posted his deadlift clip?  Even if he had posted it, I doubt people would believe him.  ;D

Take this test and post a screencap of your result:

http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 01:15:27 PM
Take this test and post a screencap of your result:

http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf



I can do that, but people will still claim I altered the photo or got someone else to write it for me.  I could do a video of me writing the test and people would still call BS on the result.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 01:16:55 PM
I can do that, but people will still claim I altered the photo or got someone else to write it for me.  I could do a video of me writing the test and people would still call BS on the result.

A screencap will suffice. But if you truly wanna do a whole video, then go for it ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 24, 2008, 01:17:40 PM
Yes, I wasn't clear about it, but what you are saying here is pretty well how I interpreted your posts.  It is bad for business to be controversial.  But I disagree with you about publicly preaching hate.  As I said, I can post a link to a scientific study showing the MRI scans of Asian brains compared to white brains and it would be "publicly preaching hate."  Saying "Posting scientific facts which may be DEEMED by some as publicly preaching hate" would be another thing.  Just because the dim posters on here deem it as such doesn't make it so, but since they may make up a brunt of supplement consumers, appeasing them may be wise.  Having said that, there are always a number of things to balance.  I like my public persona on here and don't plan to change it, although I won't be bringing up political issues on here any more.  Let's see if others will stop bringing them up in my threads now.

Science is what it is - science.  No agenda, no hate, just science.

Matt - you said you main aim is to make money - you said that. You claim to be a genius.

Let me veer from my normal diplomatic self for a minute....

I would think a genius with a very high IQ, whose main aim is making money -  would do something more than peddle bodybuilding DVD's and supps online.

No offense intended, but I really wonder about that. Any reason why you did not choose a more lucrative path considering your intelligence level and aim to make money? Just love for the niche?

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 24, 2008, 01:19:57 PM
That's not what I meant.  Allow me to expand on that:

Scientific research is morally neutral. It is the best system we have to determine truth and can never be immoral in and of itself. But it often takes time for the public to accept scientific consensus and during that transitional period there may be tensions, especially if the scientific data counters strong personal beliefs. The initial reaction to Darwin's observation of evolution was negative as the adaptation of species is not something readily observable, and the idea that humans and apes have a common ancestor is malediction to those who see human beings as special or the creations of a god.  But we must always aspire to seek truth even while it may be controversial.
Should try to be morally neutral. Humans are involved, after all.

Yes, there can be tensions, but say that Darwin faced great opposition is a popular misconception. Keep in mind that the Victorian Age was really one of discovery (Lyell, Wallace, Cavendish, etc.) and to be scientifically interested in the world around you was seen as something that every Victorian gentleman should strive to do. So houses had microscopes, and trips to the seashore to see the fossils in shale were actively encouraged.

As for Darwin, he was 'pushed' in publishing his book because he feared he'd get trumped by Wallace. A religious man, I think his last book (I think) was considerably less controversial -earthworms.   ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 01:30:51 PM
Should try to be morally neutral. Humans are involved, after all.


Morality is a human construct, not a phenomena with independent existence.  If you accept than humans have no special place in the cosmos and are merely more advanced animals (they are), morality becomes less important conceptually.  From the point of view of individual humans or individual human societies it takes on importance in predicting the success of that individual or society, but in the abstract it really isn't an issue.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 01:34:17 PM
I would think a genius with a very high IQ, whose main aim is making money -  would do something more than peddle bodybuilding DVD's and supps online.

No offense intended, but I really wonder about that. Any reason why you did not choose a more lucrative path considering your intelligence level and aim to make money? Just love for the niche?



Matt's willingness to bluntly post unpopular ideas here under his own name shows a lack of insight given his desire to make money from that same audience (which in and of itself shows a lack of insight - I can think of about 10,000 more effective places to make money than in the "bodybuilding industry").



 ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 02:30:14 PM
A screencap will suffice. But if you truly wanna do a whole video, then go for it ;D

Nice test!  Did you notice the answers in question 29?  LOL.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 02:34:22 PM
Matt - you said you main aim is to make money - you said that. You claim to be a genius.

Let me veer from my normal diplomatic self for a minute....

I would think a genius with a very high IQ, whose main aim is making money -  would do something more than peddle bodybuilding DVD's and supps online.

No offense intended, but I really wonder about that. Any reason why you did not choose a more lucrative path considering your intelligence level and aim to make money? Just love for the niche?



The term "genius" applies to some relatively low IQs...relative compared to what we consider "genius" at least.  Some say it is 160, others say it is in the 130s.  With the later definition, a "genius" is not uncommon - about 1 in 50.

Yes, it is love for the niche actually.  That and I have been trying to gather as much university education as possible, so if the day ever comes where the website fails me, I will have options wide open.  Also, the website is only a fraction of what I do.  I design websites also (much like our friend 240  ;D).
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 02:36:17 PM
Nice test!  Did you notice the answers in question 29?  LOL.

What IQ score did you get?  :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 02:37:16 PM
Should try to be morally neutral. Humans are involved, after all.

Yes, there can be tensions, but say that Darwin faced great opposition is a popular misconception. Keep in mind that the Victorian Age was really one of discovery (Lyell, Wallace, Cavendish, etc.) and to be scientifically interested in the world around you was seen as something that every Victorian gentleman should strive to do. So houses had microscopes, and trips to the seashore to see the fossils in shale were actively encouraged.

As for Darwin, he was 'pushed' in publishing his book because he feared he'd get trumped by Wallace. A religious man, I think his last book (I think) was considerably less controversial -earthworms.   ;)

True.

Do you remember this sticker from?  To me, this summarizes the importance of NEVER caving to political agendas.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: flagadajones on May 24, 2008, 02:39:05 PM
matt is just a scrawny weight lifter who happen to know how to use some html and who's angry at everyonebecause of his shortcomings, hence his delusions of grandeur.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 02:41:25 PM
matt is just a scrawny weight lifter who happen to know how to use some html and who's angry at everyonebecause of his shortcomings, hence his delusions of grandeur.

True, but false on the last bit about me being angry.  ;D

What IQ score did you get?  :D


I expected higher than this score.  Considering the test was entirely spatial ability which I excel at, I'm a little surprised.  Usually that brings my score up.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 02:42:41 PM
By the way - did anyone catch the the top left tab of that screencap in my firefox browser?  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 24, 2008, 02:46:05 PM
OK, Matt here is a good example for you in regards to intelligence. You might appreciate it; it's trite but practical. Look to the above where you wrote 'a myriad.' Myriad basically means 'many' it needs no other enhancement such as 'a.' It's a simple vocab pointer, but as you are so fond of telling others, it is an indication of one's intelligence and thought processes. It could not be a simple oversight on your part.  ;)

Like I stated before, Matt always tries to touch up his posts to make him sounds smart.
He fail to understand that stupid ideas will stay stupid no matter what words are used to describe them.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 02:49:25 PM
How about a disclaimer on your website then
*note..this is not an unbiased review,i am recieving compensation from www.bodybuilding.com,they give me "free product" i then "hype" it favorably on this website and others ,and then attempt to sell it to you the general public so i can also collect a commission fee.....

Then go to every website which sells supplements and has content and ask them to do the same.  If they do, I will put that up word for word.

My suggestion is something along these lines:

Quote from: DISCLAIMER
BodybuildingPro.com reviewers receive all reviewed supplements for free from Bodybuilding.com and other suppliers.  BodybuildingPro.com is also affiliated with the sale of all supplements being reviewed and is compensated on a commission basis per sale as you can see through the purchase links on each page.  While each review is written to be as fair and balanced as possible, BodybuildingPro.com always encourages each consumer to learn as much as possible about each supplement and read as many other user reviews as possible before making any purchase (if at all).

Will told me specifically when I write these reviews that he just wants honesty, and that means saying that the supplements suck if I feel that way.  Fact is, even if I said that every supplement I tried sucked, Arvilla would come back and say that I am still biased.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 02:51:42 PM
True, but false on the last bit about me being angry.  ;D

I expected higher than this score.  Considering the test was entirely spatial ability which I excel at, I'm a little surprised.  Usually that brings my score up.


Good work dear MattCock!  :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 02:53:42 PM
Like I stated before, Matt always tries to touch up his posts to make him sounds smart.
He fail to understand that stupid ideas will stay stupid no matter what words are used to describe them.

If they are so stupid, why not just debate on reasonable turns and use evidence?  I admit, there have been times where you've debated with me and provided data, but normally you just attack me.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 02:56:10 PM

Good work dear MattCock!  :D

Thanks.  ;D

But unless another member of getbig invigilated my test, I doubt anyone will believe any scores I post.  I wonder if that is why TA never verified his lifts or if my original conclusion was correct and he is just full of shit, LOL.

What do you make of the people who claim the supplement reviews on my website are biased?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 24, 2008, 02:59:40 PM
Matt - you said you main aim is to make money - you said that. You claim to be a genius.

Let me veer from my normal diplomatic self for a minute....

I would think a genius with a very high IQ, whose main aim is making money -  would do something more than peddle bodybuilding DVD's and supps online.

No offense intended, but I really wonder about that. Any reason why you did not choose a more lucrative path considering your intelligence level and aim to make money? Just love for the niche?




Simple, he lack real world abilities. He did some degree or something right? I guess no one hired him so he was forced to try to do this.
It really a shitty business to be in, he have NO edge whatsoever, it doesn't take a genius to see that  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 03:02:27 PM

Simple, he lack real world abilities. He did some degree or something right? I guess no one hired him so he was forced to try to do this.
It really a shitty business to be in, he have NO edge whatsoever, it doesn't take a genius to see that  ;D

Nah, no jobs in my region even for those who are extremely educated.  I don't want to leave the city because I like it, so I went into website design knowing that my income wouldn't be dependent on the economic status of the city.  But with that status, the cost of living is VERY low.  We were voted #1 for most affordable housing in urban regions anywhere in the world.  Doing this, I get to make money outside of the community while enjoying the low cost of living within the community.  Also, I enjoy having an abundance of free time and have been enjoying it for almost five years now.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 24, 2008, 03:05:39 PM
If they are so stupid, why not just debate on reasonable turns and use evidence?  I admit, there have been times where you've debated with me and provided data, but normally you just attack me.


Because I don't waste me time and effort on lost causes.
Racist will stay that way, do you remember that Einstein was Jewish? Look up the Manhattan project ALL the major players were Jewish, even Fermi's who wasn't was married to one lol.

If the Germans would have used some of their sense and keep obviously capable (the reason for them being prosecuted) Jewish they would probably win the war.

I see no reason to spend time with logical posts on an illogical person.

Now I just need to find some free time and mail anyone I can about your BS ...hmm...Jessie Jackson come to mind  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 24, 2008, 03:06:46 PM
True.

Do you remember this sticker from?  To me, this summarizes the importance of NEVER caving to political agendas.
I agree about keeping science separate from politics but you know those punkwallas...always pandering to something or in someone's pocket.

And no, I have not seen that sticker, but I have seen similar ones. Obvious that whomever was responsible for it has no idea how science uses the term 'theory,' or 'fact,' for that matter.   ::)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 03:11:55 PM
I see no reason to spend time with logical posts on an illogical person.

You've never addressed the studies I linked, so I don't see how you can draw this conclusion.  I just think you are afraid of debating with me.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 03:12:36 PM
I agree about keeping science separate from politics but you know those punkwallas...always pandering to something or in someone's pocket.

And no, I have not seen that sticker, but I have seen similar ones. Obvious that whomever was responsible for it has no idea how science uses the term 'theory,' or 'fact,' for that matter.   ::)

Yeah, tell me about it, lol.  GRAVITY is a theory...should we include a sticker on textbooks for that too?  :-\
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 03:16:35 PM
Nah, no jobs in my region even for those who are extremely educated.  I don't want to leave the city because I like it, so I went into website design knowing that my income wouldn't be dependent on the economic status of the city.  But with that status, the cost of living is VERY low.  We were voted #1 for most affordable housing in urban regions anywhere in the world.  Doing this, I get to make money outside of the community while enjoying the low cost of living within the community.  Also, I enjoy having an abundance of free time and have been enjoying it for almost five years now.


Why would you choose to live in an economically depressed area?  These places tend to have higher crime, be aesthetically unattractive, and have ignorant, uneducated, uninteresting people since those with any potential have followed the opportunities elsewhere.  And in the case of your particular area, the weather sucks too.  Seems to me you're rationalizing.  If you really had the ability to turn your IQ into income, you could afford to live anywhere you wanted.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 24, 2008, 03:21:20 PM
You've never addressed the studies I linked, so I don't see how you can draw this conclusion.  I just think you are afraid of debating with me.

I got enough reading to do with out getting assignments from you, and my point still stands, you will just deny and post more shit from your Nazi's sites.

There was an article a couple of weeks ago about a study that checked if you can increase IQ with a PC program and they succeeded which kind of ruins your whole theory. But I dont even want to go into it because I think intelligence is much more complicated than these retarded tests, many savants  can pass these tests with 500IQ points but will hardly be able to complete a sentence....so whats that worth?

Back to the subject at hand, why wont you be a man for once in your life and instead of hiding away from the real world like you do in your shit hole town.
Post a big banner with a big Swastika's symbol and lots of article about your thoughts about all the races and the Jewish conspiracy.
Be a man, stand behind what you believe and publish it in a manner no one can miss it.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 03:25:42 PM


There was an article a couple of weeks ago about a study that checked if you can increase IQ with a PC program and they succeeded which kind of ruins your whole theory.

Wrong. Training and lifestyle can only enhanche IQ within a certain interval, dictated by your genetics.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 03:25:55 PM

Why would you choose to live in an economically depressed area?  These places tend to have higher crime, be aesthetically unattractive, and have ignorant, uneducated, uninteresting people since those with any potential have followed the opportunities elsewhere.  And in the case of your particular area, the weather sucks too.  Seems to me you're rationalizing.  If you really had the ability to turn your IQ into income, you could afford to live anywhere you wanted.

The real estate market is great here.  There are a FEW opportunities here, although not many, but smart people will find them.  The reason why I stay here is because I enjoy the city and everyone I care about is here.  Simple enough to me.  I agree with what you're saying about economically depressed areas though.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: _bruce_ on May 24, 2008, 03:30:03 PM
Wrong. Training and lifestyle can only enhanche IQ within a certain interval, dictated by your genetics.

So how did you manage to break into the two digit IQ-territory?  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 03:31:51 PM
I notice that those who were saying I was biased in my supplement reviews have since shut up.  Not only are the reviews not biased, some of them are not even written by me (in the future, this will be the majority):

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/dreamtanprofessionalself-tanningsprayreview.html

Let's see those who claim my website has biased reviews put their money where their mouth is - write a professionally written review about the worst supplement you have ever tried and I'll post it.

I encourage everyone who thinks my website is biased to take me up on this offer.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: flagadajones on May 24, 2008, 03:32:47 PM
I notice that those who were saying I was biased in my supplement reviews have since shut up. 

only because they have something better to do than beating you up online, but they 'll be back, you're a human punching ball.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 03:34:03 PM
So how did you manage to break into the two digit IQ-territory?  ;D


Pure luck. Remember: Debusseys IQ = 53. Thus, Debussey = severely retarded, and Debussey has always been so. But sometimes, just sometimes, Gary Busey takes control over Debussey via telepathy, and then Debussey might say/write something worthwhile, but even then Gary Busey does not use his godly intelligence, he just enables Debussey a "glimpse into heaven".

Ohh baby.

 :o
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 24, 2008, 03:34:56 PM
Wrong. Training and lifestyle can only enhanche IQ within a certain interval, dictated by your genetics.


You all seem to miss so much about IQ tests/studies.

Tests:
Like any tests, they have certain characteristics and stay within a guideline thus by definition they can be beat by studying them.

Studies:
By all your post I can see you all never actually been a part of a research, especially not something as subjective as this.
You need to remember that someone conduct the study and he have an agenda which is either X are the best/everyone the same/Y are the best.
The test will be built to find these results no matter what, its like you all never seen a study that is funded by the cigarette/oil companies  ::)


And IIRC the study that was published recently had something like 20 points in a couple of months which is supposed to be huge for those of you who believe in IQ tests so much.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: _bruce_ on May 24, 2008, 03:42:09 PM

You all seem to miss so much about IQ tests/studies.

Tests:
Like any tests, they have certain characteristics and stay within a guideline thus by definition they can be beat by studying them.

Studies:
By all your post I can see you all never actually been a part of a research, especially not something as subjective as this.
You need to remember that someone conduct the study and he have an agenda which is either X are the best/everyone the same/Y are the best.
The test will be built to find these results no matter what, its like you all never seen a study that is funded by the cigarette/oil companies  ::)


And IIRC the study that was published recently had something like 20 points in a couple of months which is supposed to be huge for those of you who believe in IQ tests so much.

I don't give a damn about those tests. I've met many supposedly "primitive" people(taxi drivers, cleaning wo/men, construction workers) who would singlehandedly blow away most full-of-themselves intellectuals at logical and analytical brainwork.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Special Ed on May 24, 2008, 03:43:15 PM
I'm just surprised that a company as large and reputable as Bodybuilding.com would choose to do business or associate itself with Matt Canning and his website. Perhaps Bodybuilding.com's Will Weidenman is aware of it and his German ancestry takes a certain pride in Matt's posts, but I find it difficult to believe that Ryan, Russ, and Jeremy DeLuca or the new majority owners would choose to associate themselves with someone whose website exhibits such racial and religious bigotry and intolerance.

It's not as if the opinions on Matt's forums aren't his. They are. He posts anti-semitic and anti-black statements here and on his Bodybuilding.com affiliated website.

I wonder how Matt will feel when Bodybuilding.com dumps him. And then when Netrition dumps him. And then every other reputable company dumps him. I guess we'll be able to post something like this:

Persecution of Matt Canning

2008 Thrown out of Bodybuilding.com
2009 Thrown out of Netrition.com
2010 Thrown out of Europa.com
2011 Forced to apply to Thunder Bay post office.

Hmmmm...I guess it's kinda like a guy getting thrown out of one bar. I guess if he gets thrown out of several different bars, there must be a reason for it.

Matt lives in a blue collar depressed town probably devoid of Jews, Blacks, Asians and other minorities. He doesn't leave his house, doesn't have a girlfriend, and doesn't speak to many people in real life. He has a desperate need to belong. He joined the military hoping to find comraderie but found himself an outcast. He tries to fit in to society but is unable to do so in a productive way. Combine his lonely, sheltered life with his deep-rooted insecurities in his intelligence, physicality, and sexuality, and is it really any surprise he's adopted the views he has? I guess it's better than shooting up the post office, but not by much.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 03:48:37 PM
only because they have something better to do than beating you up online, but they 'll be back, you're a human punching ball.

Yes, there's always an excuse.  ::)

All of you send me reviews for the worst supplements you've ever tried.  As long as they are written professionally I will post them.

Example:

"This supplement was the worst one that I have ever tried.  I made no gains in mass, strength, or any other improvements whatsoever.  It was a complete waste of money in my opinion and I will never try it again.  I also feel obligated to encourage others not to use it based on my use, although individual response will vary and it is recommended you read other reviews and do additional research before making any decisions."

As opposed to:

"This supplement is complete shit.  I hated it, the ads are stupid, and I don't think anyone should buy it."

The latter review offers the consumer NOTHING.  Try to be as specific and detailed as possible, and I will post ALL negative reviews I get on my website.

Of course, the morons will STILL not shut up about my website being dishonest.  ::)  What they don't realize is that they are only harming their own credibility (and not mine) with everything they say.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 03:55:07 PM
I'm just surprised that a company as large and reputable as Bodybuilding.com would choose to do business or associate itself with Matt Canning and his website. Perhaps Bodybuilding.com's Will Weidenman is aware of it and his German ancestry takes a certain pride in Matt's posts, but I find it difficult to believe that Ryan, Russ, and Jeremy DeLuca or the new majority owners would choose to associate themselves with someone whose website exhibits such racial and religious bigotry and intolerance.

It's not as if the opinions on Matt's forums aren't his. They are. He posts anti-semitic and anti-black statements here and on his Bodybuilding.com affiliated website.

I wonder how Matt will feel when Bodybuilding.com dumps him. And then when Netrition dumps him. And then every other reputable company dumps him. I guess we'll be able to post something like this:

Persecution of Matt Canning

2008 Thrown out of Bodybuilding.com
2009 Thrown out of Netrition.com
2010 Thrown out of Europa.com
2011 Forced to apply to Thunder Bay post office.

Hmmmm...I guess it's kinda like a guy getting thrown out of one bar. I guess if he gets thrown out of several different bars, there must be a reason for it.

Matt lives in a blue collar depressed town probably devoid of Jews, Blacks, Asians and other minorities. He doesn't leave his house, doesn't have a girlfriend, and doesn't speak to many people in real life. He has a desperate need to belong. He joined the military hoping to find comraderie but found himself an outcast. He tries to fit in to society but is unable to do so in a productive way. Combine his lonely, sheltered life with his deep-rooted insecurities in his intelligence, physicality, and sexuality, and is it really any surprise he's adopted the views he has? I guess it's better than shooting up the post office, but not by much.



How do you think a post like this reflects on yourself?

You really are low for stooping to such levels.  I've seen you attempt to do the same thing to Isaac and I don't think you realize how malicious it makes you look.

As for as my achievements, even by the time I am a millionaire, people on here will keep making the same comments.  If you haven't noticed, it makes no difference what someone achieves - anyone and everyone will be insulted on here.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: flagadajones on May 24, 2008, 03:59:29 PM
I'm just surprised that a company as large and reputable as Bodybuilding.com would choose to do business or associate itself with Matt Canning and his website. Perhaps Bodybuilding.com's Will Weidenman is aware of it and his German ancestry takes a certain pride in Matt's posts, but I find it difficult to believe that Ryan, Russ, and Jeremy DeLuca or the new majority owners would choose to associate themselves with someone whose website exhibits such racial and religious bigotry and intolerance.

It's not as if the opinions on Matt's forums aren't his. They are. He posts anti-semitic and anti-black statements here and on his Bodybuilding.com affiliated website.

I wonder how Matt will feel when Bodybuilding.com dumps him. And then when Netrition dumps him. And then every other reputable company dumps him. I guess we'll be able to post something like this:

Persecution of Matt Canning

2008 Thrown out of Bodybuilding.com
2009 Thrown out of Netrition.com
2010 Thrown out of Europa.com
2011 Forced to apply to Thunder Bay post office.

Hmmmm...I guess it's kinda like a guy getting thrown out of one bar. I guess if he gets thrown out of several different bars, there must be a reason for it.

Matt lives in a blue collar depressed town probably devoid of Jews, Blacks, Asians and other minorities. He doesn't leave his house, doesn't have a girlfriend, and doesn't speak to many people in real life. He has a desperate need to belong. He joined the military hoping to find comraderie but found himself an outcast. He tries to fit in to society but is unable to do so in a productive way. Combine his lonely, sheltered life with his deep-rooted insecurities in his intelligence, physicality, and sexuality, and is it really any surprise he's adopted the views he has? I guess it's better than shooting up the post office, but not by much.



case closed haha.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: flagadajones on May 24, 2008, 04:00:52 PM
How do you think a post like this reflects on yourself?

You really are low for stooping to such levels.  I've seen you attempt to do the same thing to Isaac and I don't think you realize how malicious it makes you look.

As for as my achievements, even by the time I am a millionaire, people on here will keep making the same comments.  If you haven't noticed, it makes no difference what someone achieves - anyone and everyone will be insulted on here.
that's not true, muscle center is admired because he deserves it.

Now squadfatty is gone, there 's an equilibrium and those who really deserve respect get it. But you don't fit in that category.

Nice one ed, you nailed it, obviously.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 04:08:41 PM
that's not true, muscle center is admired because he deserves it.

Now squadfatty is gone, there 's an equilibrium and those who really deserve respect get it. But you don't fit in that category.

Nice one ed, you nailed it, obviously.

I disagree.  Look no further than the truce thread and you see Ronnie getting bashed by ND.  You see people talking shit about Layne Norton for no reason at all.  You see people criticizing the form on lifts by Justin Harris and Steve Kuclo.  You see Special Ed bash Isaac's services, and you see others bash Special Ed's radio show.  You see people bash Ron because he doesn't lift weights.  There was an Arvilla bash thread that went on for pages and pages.  And last but not least, the two Matt C bash threads per month.  ;D

But anyway, my point is that I disagree that this board gives respect where it is due.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Method101 on May 24, 2008, 04:08:56 PM
I'm just surprised that a company as large and reputable as Bodybuilding.com would choose to do business or associate itself with Matt Canning and his website. Perhaps Bodybuilding.com's Will Weidenman is aware of it and his German ancestry takes a certain pride in Matt's posts, but I find it difficult to believe that Ryan, Russ, and Jeremy DeLuca or the new majority owners would choose to associate themselves with someone whose website exhibits such racial and religious bigotry and intolerance.

It's not as if the opinions on Matt's forums aren't his. They are. He posts anti-semitic and anti-black statements here and on his Bodybuilding.com affiliated website.

I wonder how Matt will feel when Bodybuilding.com dumps him. And then when Netrition dumps him. And then every other reputable company dumps him. I guess we'll be able to post something like this:

Persecution of Matt Canning

2008 Thrown out of Bodybuilding.com
2009 Thrown out of Netrition.com
2010 Thrown out of Europa.com
2011 Forced to apply to Thunder Bay post office.

Hmmmm...I guess it's kinda like a guy getting thrown out of one bar. I guess if he gets thrown out of several different bars, there must be a reason for it.

Matt lives in a blue collar depressed town probably devoid of Jews, Blacks, Asians and other minorities. He doesn't leave his house, doesn't have a girlfriend, and doesn't speak to many people in real life. He has a desperate need to belong. He joined the military hoping to find comraderie but found himself an outcast. He tries to fit in to society but is unable to do so in a productive way. Combine his lonely, sheltered life with his deep-rooted insecurities in his intelligence, physicality, and sexuality, and is it really any surprise he's adopted the views he has? I guess it's better than shooting up the post office, but not by much.


and your a fat annoying fuck with brutal gyno.
hope this helps.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Special Ed on May 24, 2008, 04:11:30 PM
How do you think a post like this reflects on yourself?

You really are low for stooping to such levels.  I've seen you attempt to do the same thing to Isaac and I don't think you realize how malicious it makes you look.

As for as my achievements, even by the time I am a millionaire, people on here will keep making the same comments.  If you haven't noticed, it makes no difference what someone achieves - anyone and everyone will be insulted on here.
It's laughable watching you attempt to deflect valid criticism.

Don't compare your business to Isaac. Isaac uses real talent and original ideas to make a living. He and I enjoy ribbing each other for fun.

You actually have the nerve to ask how my valid post reflects on ME? How do your posts and website reflect on YOU? And your family? And your business associates? Like Bodybuilding.com?

Like I said Matt, they don't need your money. A review website/message board with an Alexa ranking of 125,000 isn't really making much money for you or them and I think we both know that. Nice try though.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 04:17:18 PM
It's laughable watching you attempt to deflect valid criticism.

Don't compare your business to Isaac. Isaac uses real talent and original ideas to make a living. He and I enjoy ribbing each other for fun.

You actually have the nerve to ask how my valid post reflects on ME? How do your posts and website reflect on YOU? And your family? And your business associates? Like Bodybuilding.com?

Like I said Matt, they don't need your money. A review website/message board with an Alexa ranking of 125,000 isn't really making much money for you or them and I think we both know that. Nice try though.



Why did you become so serious all the sudden?  >:(
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: candidizzle on May 24, 2008, 04:20:32 PM
Why did you become so serious all the sudden?  >:(
he is sensitive about he jew-dom
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Special Ed on May 24, 2008, 04:26:32 PM
Why did you become so serious all the sudden?  >:(
Considering the amount of time I spent helping and and providing free advice to MattC about his legal troubles and how much business he's mooched of Ron's Getbig site, I think he has a shitload of nerve Jew-bashing here. Here's a guy that has had two Jews help him out financially and legally without asking him for a dime, and he's devoted himself to shit-talking Jews. It's not about freedom of speech, it's about being an ungrateful POS.

PS. Haha...this just got dumped to the Supplement board. Guess things got a bit touchy up on the Idaho farm.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 04:27:44 PM
he is sensitive about he jew-dom


Special Education is a Jewbie?  I'm shocked...  shocked I say!  :o





 ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Alex23 on May 24, 2008, 04:28:10 PM
he is sensitive about he jew-dom

I wouldn't rock the boat too much if I were you. It may make you catabolic amongst other things.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 04:28:33 PM
Considering the amount of time I spent helping and and providing free advice to MattC about his legal troubles and how much business he's mooched of Ron's Getbig site, I think he has a shitload of nerve Jew-bashing here. Here's a guy that has had two Jews help him out financially and legally without asking him for a dime, and he's devoted himself to shit-talking Jews. It's not about freedom of speech, it's about being an ungrateful POS.

You have given MattCock free legal advice? About what? Denial of walking around nude in public?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 04:29:30 PM
Considering the amount of time I spent helping and and providing free advice to MattC about his legal troubles and how much business he's mooched of Ron's Getbig site, I think he has a shitload of nerve Jew-bashing here. Here's a guy that has had two Jews help him out financially and legally without asking him for a dime, and he's devoted himself to shit-talking Jews. It's not about freedom of speech, it's about being an ungrateful POS.

PS. Haha...this just got dumped to the Supplement board. Guess things got a bit touchy up on the Idaho farm.


Tell us more about Matt C's "legal troubles"!  :D  Unless he has retained you as paid counsel, privilege wouldn't apply, right?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Alex23 on May 24, 2008, 04:29:52 PM
Considering the amount of time I spent helping and and providing free advice to MattC about his legal troubles and how much business he's mooched of Ron's Getbig site, I think he has a shitload of nerve Jew-bashing here. Here's a guy that has had two Jews help him out financially and legally without asking him for a dime, and he's devoted himself to shit-talking Jews. It's not about freedom of speech, it's about being an ungrateful POS.

PS. Haha...this just got dumped to the Supplement board. Guess things got a bit touchy up on the Idaho farm.

I think it's fair to say that "MattC" has officially been destroyed beyond belief.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Special Ed on May 24, 2008, 04:31:35 PM

Special Education is a Jewbie?  I'm shocked...  shocked I say!  :o
;D
Well, according to Matt you could easily surmise as much, based on the fact that my radio show controls the media.

Now, how about those other radio Jews Palumbo and Romano?

Or Cicherillo and Solomon? DOH!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 04:34:48 PM
It's laughable watching you attempt to deflect valid criticism.

Don't compare your business to Isaac. Isaac uses real talent and original ideas to make a living. He and I enjoy ribbing each other for fun.

You actually have the nerve to ask how my valid post reflects on ME? How do your posts and website reflect on YOU? And your family? And your business associates? Like Bodybuilding.com?

Like I said Matt, they don't need your money. A review website/message board with an Alexa ranking of 125,000 isn't really making much money for you or them and I think we both know that. Nice try though.



Yes, bodybuilding.com is responsible for what I say.  ::)  If you don't understand how low it is for you to draw that conclusion, I'm not going to explain it to you.  Shame on you for going that route.

When did I ever say that I had original talent through my website or anything of the like?  Why is being original so important?  My website model works.  Your message board used the same colour scheme as getbig and I applaud you for that - there's nothing wrong with modeling a business after another one which is successful.  It happens all the time.  It's part of the mechanism of capitalism.

And you are correct, bodybuilding.com doesn't need me, but the Alexa rankings on the website are only a part of the picture.  You don't mention other promotions I do for my website independently of the site itself.  As I said, I am still in their top 25 of affiliates out of over 8,000.  If you don't believe me, then ask them.  We have a good working relationship together.  I will agree that they don't need me though, as they are so big at this point, bodybuilding needs bodybuilding.com, but bodybuilding.com does not need anyone.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 04:35:09 PM
Well, according to Matt you could easily surmise as much, based on the fact that my radio show controls the media.



I don't know... isn't there another NY-based guy named Stern who is the self-proclaimed "king of all media"?  A distant relation, perhaps?  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Alex23 on May 24, 2008, 04:37:15 PM
Well, according to Matt you could easily surmise as much, based on the fact that my radio show controls the media.

Now, how about those other radio Jews Palumbo and Romano?

Or Cicherillo and Solomon? DOH!

Have you ever been to Thunder Bay Ed? It's a great place for startup VC funding, B2B relationships and other venture related operations. A great launch pad for a futur Millionaire ::) .
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: candidizzle on May 24, 2008, 04:38:33 PM
I wouldn't rock the boat too much if I were you. It may make you catabolic amongst other things.
  :-[ MOMMY! candidizzle wont come run around tied to a weight sled like an idiot with me ! its not fair ! what a jerk!  



 :P
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 04:38:37 PM
Shame on you for going that route.



hahahahaha you used the expression "shame on you" ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 04:39:59 PM
Considering the amount of time I spent helping and and providing free advice to MattC about his legal troubles and how much business he's mooched of Ron's Getbig site, I think he has a shitload of nerve Jew-bashing here. Here's a guy that has had two Jews help him out financially and legally without asking him for a dime, and he's devoted himself to shit-talking Jews. It's not about freedom of speech, it's about being an ungrateful POS.

PS. Haha...this just got dumped to the Supplement board. Guess things got a bit touchy up on the Idaho farm.

Yes, that was very nice of you and I appreciate it.

I don't get why people feel the need to get so defensive though.  For instance, I am not offended that Asians score higher than Europeans in IQ tests.  If it's fact, I acknowledge it.  I don't deny the atrocities that Europeans have committed throughout history.  I try to put things in perspective even if they may not be pleasant things to accept.

And yes, I would imagine that Jason and Howard are distant relatives.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 24, 2008, 04:42:01 PM
Yes, that was very nice of you and I appreciate it.


Matt - care to share your "legal troubles" with us before someone gets the scoop elsewhere and plasters it all over the board?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 04:56:31 PM
Have you ever been to Thunder Bay Ed? It's a great place for startup VC funding, B2B relationships and other venture related operations. A great launch pad for a futur Millionaire ::) .

No, but it's a great place to make a lot of money with next to no cost of living.  I don't think people are considering how long it goes to have an extremely reduced cost of living.  You can get nice four bedroom homes here for $100,000 easily.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Alex23 on May 24, 2008, 04:58:16 PM
No, but it's a great place to make a lot of money with next to no cost of living.  I don't think people are considering how long it goes to have an extremely reduced cost of living.  You can get nice four bedroom homes here for $100,000 easily.

What is your business model/main source of income Matt Canning?

'low cost of living' comes hand in hand with low incomes. Don't give me that "web 2.0" bs...
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 24, 2008, 04:59:44 PM

Matt - care to share your "legal troubles" with us before someone gets the scoop elsewhere and plasters it all over the board?
i would like to know more about this, please?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Special Ed on May 24, 2008, 05:29:26 PM
Yes, that was very nice of you and I appreciate it.

I don't get why people feel the need to get so defensive though.  For instance, I am not offended that Asians score higher than Europeans in IQ tests.  If it's fact, I acknowledge it.  I don't deny the atrocities that Europeans have committed throughout history.  I try to put things in perspective even if they may not be pleasant things to accept.

And yes, I would imagine that Jason and Howard are distant relatives.
If anyone is being defensive here, it's you.

If you are so proud of your viewpoints and truly believe that it has brought you more business, why would Bodybuilding.com's opinion about your mutual affiliation be of concern to you?

You pride yourself on the truth and evidence. What exactly is "low" about pointing out the truth? Bodybuilding.com is affiliated with a racist and anti-semitic website and a webmaster/partner/affiliate who promotes racism and anti-semitism.

Tell me where I'm going wrong, Matty?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 05:42:05 PM
MattCock would be better off shutting the fuck up about his viewpoints when it could be directly linked to his business, and make an alias like CatManning or something that debates his viewpoints.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 24, 2008, 05:43:08 PM
Thanks for your earlier answer btw MattC.

Special Ed is 100% right - and MattC is displaying a complete lack of business sense here and knowledge on how the whole industry works - on larger levels - not small time levels.

Bodybuilding.com could give a rats ass about him, and would dump him like a hotcake if he was a liabilty.

Recall how quickly 240 got chopped by them?

Just think of a hypothetical scenario here. Special Ed decides he is offended, and starts mentioning on his radio show how a bb.com affilated person makes anti semetic remarks - which subtly tars them together with bb.com. As anyone should recall from the Mr Getbig, I am very anal retentive [spare me the comments ;D]. I decide I am offended, and decide to organise a massive email compaign to complain to bb.com, and dedicate myself to this posting on various forums, pm'ing ppl, drumming up mass support. I engage my friend Yemeni [Mindspin] who makes a few calls to high powered individuals in the game.

Matt is gone. Simple.

Or even if Ron, a Jew, tosses Matt off this site where Matt does alot of marketing.

Not saying that will occur, I just made it all up, but for Matt to insinuate he would not get dumped by them is off base. It's just no one cares enough to bother.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 24, 2008, 05:45:57 PM
Thanks for your earlier answer btw MattC.

Special Ed is 100% right - and MattC is displaying a complete lack of business sense here and knowledge on how the whole industry works - on larger levels - not small time levels.

Bodybuilding.com could give a rats ass about him, and would dump him like a hotcake if he was a liabilty.

Recall how quickly 240 got chopped by them?

Just think of a hypothetical scenario here. Special Ed decides he is offended, and starts mentioning on his radio show how a bb.com affilated person makes anti semetic remarks - which subtly tars them together with bb.com. As anyone should recall from the Mr Getbig, I am very anal retentive [spare me the comments ;D]. I decide I am offended, and decide to organise a massive email compaign to complain to bb.com, and dedicate myself to this posting on various forums, pm'ing ppl, drumming up mass support. I engage my friend Yemeni [Mindspin] who makes a few calls to high powered individuals in the game.

Matt is gone. Simple.

Or even if Ron, a Jew, tosses Matt off this site where Matt does alot of marketing.

Not saying that will occur, I just made it all up, but for Matt to insinuate he would not get dumped by them is off base. It's just no one cares enough to bother.


That was spot on sistah
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 24, 2008, 05:48:18 PM
Thanks Debussey.

After rereading it, I just want to be clear I am not making some threat and being like one of these google warrior nuts here lol.

I would not do that or anything.

Just pointing out it could easily be done, so like so many of us have said in this thread - Matt should consider this.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 07:43:00 PM
Thanks for your earlier answer btw MattC.

Special Ed is 100% right - and MattC is displaying a complete lack of business sense here and knowledge on how the whole industry works - on larger levels - not small time levels.

Bodybuilding.com could give a rats ass about him, and would dump him like a hotcake if he was a liabilty.

Recall how quickly 240 got chopped by them?

Just think of a hypothetical scenario here. Special Ed decides he is offended, and starts mentioning on his radio show how a bb.com affilated person makes anti semetic remarks - which subtly tars them together with bb.com. As anyone should recall from the Mr Getbig, I am very anal retentive [spare me the comments ;D]. I decide I am offended, and decide to organise a massive email compaign to complain to bb.com, and dedicate myself to this posting on various forums, pm'ing ppl, drumming up mass support. I engage my friend Yemeni [Mindspin] who makes a few calls to high powered individuals in the game.

Matt is gone. Simple.

Or even if Ron, a Jew, tosses Matt off this site where Matt does alot of marketing.

Not saying that will occur, I just made it all up, but for Matt to insinuate he would not get dumped by them is off base. It's just no one cares enough to bother.

What have I said about politics or religion in this entire thread?  I swear, it's as if no one reads what I'm writing, even the smart members like yourself.  I've said numerous times now I won't post about anything controversial on here due to the raft of morons who misinterpret everything I've said.  So all there are is a bunch of those same morons continuing to put words in my mouth.

Please QUOTE what I've said TODAY that is controversial.  I'll wait.

...
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 24, 2008, 08:26:20 PM
What have I said about politics or religion in this entire thread?  I swear, it's as if no one reads what I'm writing, even the smart members like yourself.  I've said numerous times now I won't post about anything controversial on here due to the raft of morons who misinterpret everything I've said.  So all there are is a bunch of those same morons continuing to put words in my mouth.

Please QUOTE what I've said TODAY that is controversial.  I'll wait.

...
ok hitler whatever u say ::)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dragonfist on May 24, 2008, 08:34:42 PM
ok hitler whatever u say ::)


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Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 24, 2008, 09:16:37 PM
What have I said about politics or religion in this entire thread?  I swear, it's as if no one reads what I'm writing, even the smart members like yourself.  I've said numerous times now I won't post about anything controversial on here due to the raft of morons who misinterpret everything I've said.  So all there are is a bunch of those same morons continuing to put words in my mouth.

Please QUOTE what I've said TODAY that is controversial.  I'll wait.

...

Matt, you are missing the point.

And LOL - mine and others points are that you miss the point lol - which you are proving again.

Again- If you are deemed a liabilty any business will sever ties. That is basic business premise.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Alex23 on May 24, 2008, 09:35:24 PM

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM ;D

nice one.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 24, 2008, 11:40:54 PM
Matt, you are missing the point.

And LOL - mine and others points are that you miss the point lol - which you are proving again.

Again- If you are deemed a liabilty any business will sever ties. That is basic business premise.



Yes, but the "liability" in this case is a boogeyman.  It exists not in anything I write, but rather in the words that members put in my mouth.  And if you think BB.com is so foolish as to not actually read what I'm writing and understand that, you really underestimate their business savvy.  I've already discussed this with them actually and as it turns out, getbig isn't particularly known as being a board with credible members whose opinions count for a whole lot.  Secondly, even if the delusions on here about BB.com dropping me were in any way true, I would get swooped up by another supplement affiliate program in a heartbeat.  It's not like I haven't been offered that.  I just like BB.com the best since they are the best, and we both do a lot for each other.  I am an asset to them, although you are correct that they don't need me.  For that matter, I don't need them since I could switch over the links to another affiliate program and retain all profit in one fell swoop.  I like them more than anyone in this industry though.  Honest, not kissing ass.

It's sad and may I say quite pathetic that members here have to resort to attempting to compromise my business relationships to get to me since they have now realized that I am not bothered by the myriad of attacks on my website, my workout videos, personal attacks (nose, penis size, etc), or anything else for that matter.  It bewilders me that people don't realize that it just doesn't bother me.  If it really did, it's safe to say I wouldn't have spent five years on this board.  It's an obvious character assassination to any objective observer reading this thread.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Special Ed on May 25, 2008, 12:17:28 AM
Matt,
I'm still waiting for you to tell me where I'm going wrong. It seems as though you have no defense to the truth: Bodybuilding.com is affiliating with an anti-semitic and racist website and webmaster.

Now you have added that Bodybuilding.com is well aware of your opinions, so let me rephrase this: Bodybuilding.com is knowingly and intentionally affiliating with an openly racist and anti-semitic website and webmaster.

Are you sure you wish to stand by those statements?

Would you care to add who at Bodybuilding.com you have shared your anti-semitic and racist views with? I think you should back up your statements with evidence and detail, don't you?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Method101 on May 25, 2008, 01:12:36 AM
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 25, 2008, 04:16:55 AM
Yes, but the "liability" in this case is a boogeyman.  It exists not in anything I write, but rather in the words that members put in my mouth.  And if you think BB.com is so foolish as to not actually read what I'm writing and understand that, you really underestimate their business savvy.  I've already discussed this with them actually and as it turns out, getbig isn't particularly known as being a board with credible members whose opinions count for a whole lot.  Secondly, even if the delusions on here about BB.com dropping me were in any way true, I would get swooped up by another supplement affiliate program in a heartbeat.  It's not like I haven't been offered that.  I just like BB.com the best since they are the best, and we both do a lot for each other.  I am an asset to them, although you are correct that they don't need me.  For that matter, I don't need them since I could switch over the links to another affiliate program and retain all profit in one fell swoop.  I like them more than anyone in this industry though.  Honest, not kissing ass.

It's sad and may I say quite pathetic that members here have to resort to attempting to compromise my business relationships to get to me since they have now realized that I am not bothered by the myriad of attacks on my website, my workout videos, personal attacks (nose, penis size, etc), or anything else for that matter.  It bewilders me that people don't realize that it just doesn't bother me.  If it really did, it's safe to say I wouldn't have spent five years on this board.  It's an obvious character assassination to any objective observer reading this thread.

Matt, honestly, I do not know how much you really travel and do, but you are showing a massive level of being naive.

Do you think I, Debussey, Special Ed, Wes and others are making this up?

You NEVER know who someone is behind a screen name - never. I learned that a long time ago.

If I for one minute posted real things that I do in this industry - who I "might" have a supplement contract with, certain names I "might" have on the speed dial as they are my good friends, how much my net worth is that I made myself - and many other things - people would call bullshit. Hence why I, and many others do not. You would be very surprised at who, and what, is behind some screen names. Look at Special Ed yrs back - ppl thought he was a moron or 240's gimmick- man is a lawyer who ended up working with MD and having a radio show.

I've owned two companies in this industry for over a decade making more money than most here would even consider, I've lived and worked in 6 different nations in this game - and I will tell you - you are clueless about this. You know me, do I post irrational struff? No.

I will leave it alone now, as quite frankly, I don't give a crap. I tried.

To not see a basic point we are all making -  you are actually dense, naive, or one the most arrogant people ever.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: danielson on May 25, 2008, 04:21:30 AM
Matt, honestly, I do not know how much you really travel and do, but you are showing a massive level of being naive.

Do you think I, Debussey, Special Ed, Wes and others are making this up?

You NEVER know who someone is behind a screen name - never. I learned that a long time ago.

If I for one minute posted real things that I do in this industry - who I "might" have a supplement contract with, certain names I "might" have on the speed dial as they are my good friends, how much my net worth is that I made myself - and many other things - people would call bullshit. Hence why I, and many others do not. You would be very surprised at who, and what, is behind some screen names. Look at Special Ed yrs back - ppl thought he was a moron or 240's gimmick- man is a lawyer who ended up working with MD and having a radio show.

I've owned two companies in this industry for over a decade making more money than most here would even consider, I've lived and worked in 6 different nations in this game - and I will tell you - you are clueless about this. You know me, do I post irrational struff? No.

I will leave it alone now, as quite frankly, I don't give a crap. I tried.

To not see a basic point we are all making -  you are actually dense, naive, or one the most arrogant people ever.


Matt is a slacker, that's what makes him happy. He told me once that making 50 dollars a day is a lot of money. That struck me as odd because he seemed very successful to me prior to that conversation. Not knocking the guy and I hope he wasn't telling me that in confidence or anything, but I got the impression that he doesn't care too much about making $$$$.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 04:46:59 AM
Yes, but the "liability" in this case is a boogeyman.  It exists not in anything I write, but rather in the words that members put in my mouth.  

That's the whole point. It's not the soundness of your arguments that counts, but how people in general percieve you and what you say. Since most people can not and will not really assess your statements based on rationality and science, you will in most cases be percieved negatively. If only 10% of the population can accurately assess your statements according to your wishes, while the remaining 90% gets a negative impression of you, it does not matter if you are right or wrong, it will still hurt your business in many cases, and you can become a liability to those you work with.

Instead of being idealistic here, it might be a good idea to be pragmatic. You recently wrote that you've stopped thinking that every person is smart enough to be reasoned with ("idealism"), so you've stopped being overly nice and rational to most idiots and instead you speak their language ("fuck off fucco" -> Pragmatism). Doing the same shift from idealism to pragmatism in business might be a good idea.  ;)

Instead, post your more controversial thoughts and explore more foolish behaviour as an anonymous asshole, just like the rest of us :D

Ps: Debussey does not think you are a racist, and some of your opinions does have some science behind them, and some of them are a bit out there (some of the jew stuff).  8)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 25, 2008, 04:54:34 AM
Well said Debussey.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: wes on May 25, 2008, 05:49:16 AM
To not see a basic point we are all making -  you are actually dense, naive, or one the most arrogant people ever.
I think all of the above characteristics fit.

It`s great to have a high opinion of yourself Matt,but when it makes you look like a braggart touting your accomplishments,most of which are miniscule compared to zillions of others,it makes you look arrogant and gives people a sense that you think others are beneath you,much like the comments regarding Jews and blacks as inferiors,ie. arrogance!!

Can`t see the forest for the trees,and seems to have no real world experience,ie.,dense and naive.

A college education,and an IQ of 130,which is far from uncommon,is useless if you  don`t have an open mind,have a superiority complex,respect for others who may be less fortunate,and not much of a life outside of this industry.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 06:42:59 AM
blacks as inferiors,ie. arrogance!!



He's never made a statement that blacks are inferior in VALUE. He's simply stated that a lot of scientific data shows that the average black might have a slightly less genetic propensity for intelligence compared to whites and orientals. That's an objective statement based on available scientific findings, and it is not arrogant at all, its simply.. an observation.

His way of communicating this viewpoint might seem somewhat arrogant at times, and the validity of the data can of course be discussed, especially if counter-evidence appears (so far it has not, simply statements putting the findings into question).

But the essence of his arguments about blacks and intelligence at least is not arrogant since its merely an observation based upon findings in science (an objective statement) and not a statement about human value.

Its not arrogant of Debussey to say that a straight A student with a 140 IQ and a 1400 SAT score has better genetics for intelligence than a straight D student with a 90 IQ and low SAT scores. It's an objective statement based upon reliable data (an IQ of 90 vs 140 IS partially due to genetics..), and its basically the same thing MattC is doing when he backs up his statements about blacks and intelligence (for example, asians having more brain volume = an indicator of higher intelligence, and its again just a scientific discovery). If it's "racist" to say these observeable things (it is not as long as its a neutral statement based upon facts), then people needs to rethink the value of the term, because science will undoubtly find more scientifically observeable differences between "races" that can be viewed as "inferior" or "superior".

Of course, no matter what the basis of his arguments are, and his way of communicating them, it probably still not beneficial to his business. But again, the basis of his arguments regarding intelligence = not racist.. Some of them might be somewhat speculative, but labeling them racist = still foolish.

On the other hand, MattCock has gotten fucking severely owned in this thread ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: wes on May 25, 2008, 06:47:57 AM
Cool,but the impression I get is that he beleives they are inferior.

I could be wrong about everything in my post,but somehow I doubt it.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 06:51:44 AM
Cool,but the impression I get is that he beleives they are inferior.

I could be wrong about evrerything in my post,but somehow I doubt it.



No matter what, MattCock DID get owned beyond belief in this thread (but not due to the scientific basis of his statements). Debussey has not laughed this hard from a Getbig thread in a LONG time ;D 8) 8) 8)

"Strawmen"  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Benny B on May 25, 2008, 06:54:07 AM

But the essence of his arguments about blacks and intelligence at least is not arrogant since its merely an observation based upon findings in science (an objective statement) and not a statement about human value.

The problem is that this is not an unassailable "fact" at all. There are scientists that would debate the merits of this argument, particularly in using an arbitrary designation like "race". It is simply a slippery slope to find yourself on.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 06:58:32 AM
The problem is that this is not an unassailable "fact" at all. There are scientists that would debate the merits of this argument, particularly in using an arbitrary designation like "race". It is simply a slippery slope to find yourself on.

That's why Debussey wrote that they were somewhat speculative (although Debussey failed to consistently mention this throughout its post).

At the same time, find a study that contradicts the studies and references MattCock posted, and not just statements made by scientists or others that is not linked to real data. This has not been done yet, thus, nobody has in essence debated MattCock, they have merely posted stuff that question the references he has been citing. Trying to debunk a lot of research this way = not good enough.

Although MattCock might be on a somewhat "slippery slope", at least he is in a slope, while the opposing force = not left the starting point of their anal slope.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Special Ed on May 25, 2008, 09:45:30 AM
Hmmmm...I guess Matt isn't up for a debate on the facts and evidence after all.

Guess I'm just a strawman in this...
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 25, 2008, 09:46:40 AM
The point being with Matt - he is going to have a dramatically reduced learning curve in life as - well he does not like to learn real life applications.

Matt is showing he knows nothing of making real money [not pissing off potential customers is such a basic point lol]

He has an option to learn from Wes who has been in this game longer than Matt has been on this earth, a true voice of experience speaking. Learn from Special Ed, a lawyer who quickly ingratiated himself into this industry. Learn from Dr Chimps and Goat, who if anyone reads their posts can see they are both highly intelligent and have far better social interaction skills than Matt - and I will bet they are both very successful IRL. Matt has an option to read and learn from Debussey - who acts the ass alot - but displays a superior level of intelligence many times which is only amplified as he like myself, is operating outside of his native language.

Einstein said - he will always meet someone who knows more about something than he does. I learn so much from others on this very board alone, let alone every day of my life in numerous areas. Matt chooses not to.

Matt is a very intelligent man. If he combined that with actually learning real life applications, I venture to say he could be *extremely* financially successful.

As long as he keeps thinking pissing off potential customers is fine in business, he will remain with whatever nickle and diming he is doing.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 11:31:54 AM
Hmmmm...I guess Matt isn't up for a debate on the facts and evidence after all.

Guess I'm just a strawman in this...

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Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 25, 2008, 11:42:35 AM
Do you think I, Debussey, Special Ed, Wes and others are making this up?

In short, until you can actually quote something or give me some substance that I should be concerned about, yes.  BB.com and other people (let's call them "sane people") will just interpret this thread as an orchestrated attempt to ruin my relationship with them.

I acknowledge that the four you mentioned are smart.  But even then, I've asked you to actually quote what I've said here which is detrimental to my business and you cannot (by the way, Debussey is not speaking about me, but just in a broad context).  Instead you use the interpretation of my posts by members of the peanut gallery as examples of a liability.

People on here always do this to people who are making money in the industry and doing well - Bob and Vince Goodrum for example.

This reminds me of when Bob said he had access to customer information.  Then people actually e-mailed BB.com and complained about this.  Well, the reality is that the guys on BB.com come here to investigate, and they will not see what I wrote which actually verifies the libel you speak of.  Of COURSE BB.com reads this thread.  They will look at it as me just getting picked on again, me shrugging it off again, and the peanut gallery escalating it to even more perverse levels than normal.

You know, "making stuff up" isn't a high burden of proof - it won't work in the courts, and it won't work here.  Although you may be amazed at the raft of people in all areas of life actually do it.  Not only is it not effective, but it makes the person doing it lose credibility.  When the dust settles, not only will my relationship with BB.com be secure, but the harder the peanut gallery grasps at straws trying to turn them against one of their top affiliates, the more it will ultimately just reflect poorly on getbig and the credibility of the board, and not myself.

So for those intentionally seeking to harm my business relationships, be very careful.  You can only cry wolf so many times until the fellows at BB.com or elsewhere realize you are simply trying to be malicious.  In the end, if the day ever comes that I were to do something truly detrimental, the odds of you even being heard on the matter will be lower (much like the boy who cried Dennis Wolf).  :)

In three years, I will be BB.com's #1 partner.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 25, 2008, 11:43:32 AM
much like the comments regarding Jews and blacks as inferiors,ie. arrogance!!

And of course, you can link to a quote where I actually said this right?  ::)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 11:48:43 AM
And of course, you can link to a quote where I actually said this right?  ::)


Can you buy Debussey a strawman suit for Debusseys birthday? :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 25, 2008, 11:50:32 AM
That's the whole point. It's not the soundness of your arguments that counts, but how people in general percieve you and what you say. Since most people can not and will not really assess your statements based on rationality and science, you will in most cases be percieved negatively. If only 10% of the population can accurately assess your statements according to your wishes, while the remaining 90% gets a negative impression of you, it does not matter if you are right or wrong, it will still hurt your business in many cases, and you can become a liability to those you work with.

Instead of being idealistic here, it might be a good idea to be pragmatic. You recently wrote that you've stopped thinking that every person is smart enough to be reasoned with ("idealism"), so you've stopped being overly nice and rational to most idiots and instead you speak their language ("fuck off fucco" -> Pragmatism). Doing the same shift from idealism to pragmatism in business might be a good idea.  ;)

Instead, post your more controversial thoughts and explore more foolish behaviour as an anonymous asshole, just like the rest of us :D

Ps: Debussey does not think you are a racist, and some of your opinions does have some science behind them, and some of them are a bit out there (some of the jew stuff).  8)

This is true, and I know what you and the others are driving home.  But in this case, it isn't even a matter of being the few (customers), but rather the few (peanut gallery members) who are just libeling me on purpose.  If not this, they would perhaps take my YouTube clips as proof that I am involved in G4P or something equally low.

If it truly was the consensus (right or wrong), I would definitely be concerned.  As it is, it's just another attack on Matt C, and as I said, the board likes to attack everyone.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 11:51:45 AM
This is true, and I know what you and the others are driving home.  But in this case, it isn't even a matter of being the few (customers), but rather the few (peanut gallery members) who are just libeling me on purpose.  If not this, they would perhaps take my YouTube clips as proof that I am involved in G4P or something equally low.

If it truly was the consensus (right or wrong), I would definitely be concerned.  As it is, it's just another attack on Matt C, and as I said, the board likes to attack everyone.

Enough about this. When will you buy Debussey a strawman suit? >:(
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 25, 2008, 11:54:43 AM
Soon Debussey!  I have to leave now (going for a panzerotti, an Italian specialty  ;D), but I will be back on later.

Cool,but the impression I get is that he beleives they are inferior.

I could be wrong about everything in my post,but somehow I doubt it.



Well, if everyone talking about me is telling the truth, then definitely that is the case.  But if you read my posts carefully you will see that it is not so.

For example, a radiologist can tell you that an increased number of radioisotopes are necessary for black men because they typically have bone that is more dense than that of white men. This isn't an issue of race, but rather of biology and science. The more dense the bone tissue is, the more pressure it can withstand from a muscle contraction. Might this play a role in athleticism?

Now this is just an observation.  If you want to read that as me suggesting all blacks are superior to whites athletically, you can read it like that, but I never said that and that is not my position.  But that is a good example of how things get misinterpreted on here.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 25, 2008, 12:12:21 PM
In short, until you can actually quote something or give me some substance that I should be concerned about, yes.  BB.com and other people (let's call them "sane people") will just interpret this thread as an orchestrated attempt to ruin my relationship with them.

I acknowledge that the four you mentioned are smart.  But even then, I've asked you to actually quote what I've said here which is detrimental to my business and you cannot (by the way, Debussey is not speaking about me, but just in a broad context).  Instead you use the interpretation of my posts by members of the peanut gallery as examples of a liability.

People on here always do this to people who are making money in the industry and doing well - Bob and Vince Goodrum for example.

This reminds me of when Bob said he had access to customer information.  Then people actually e-mailed BB.com and complained about this.  Well, the reality is that the guys on BB.com come here to investigate, and they will not see what I wrote which actually verifies the libel you speak of.  Of COURSE BB.com reads this thread.  They will look at it as me just getting picked on again, me shrugging it off again, and the peanut gallery escalating it to even more perverse levels than normal.

You know, "making stuff up" isn't a high burden of proof - it won't work in the courts, and it won't work here.  Although you may be amazed at the raft of people in all areas of life actually do it.  Not only is it not effective, but it makes the person doing it lose credibility.  When the dust settles, not only will my relationship with BB.com be secure, but the harder the peanut gallery grasps at straws trying to turn them against one of their top affiliates, the more it will ultimately just reflect poorly on getbig and the credibility of the board, and not myself.

So for those intentionally seeking to harm my business relationships, be very careful.  You can only cry wolf so many times until the fellows at BB.com or elsewhere realize you are simply trying to be malicious.  In the end, if the day ever comes that I were to do something truly detrimental, the odds of you even being heard on the matter will be lower  (much like the boy who cried Dennis Wolf).  :)

In three years, I will be BB.com's #1 partner.

Since that post was blunt, and the arrogance in this thread is running rampant, I will join in.

I busted my ass nothing under 80 hours a week for many years. My sole owned companies are brick and mortar, I habitually employ double digit employees, I have been in business well over a decade, and have no business liabilities barring basic bills to be paid at the end of the month. Feel free to assume I am "not making money" and "doing well" [lol]. You would be very surprised if you knew me IRL.

Again, please consider actually being more business minded not proving superior intellect if you want to make mega cash. You are generally a nice guy, and I [seriously] do believe you are probably a genius, as your abilty to talk about various matters with extreme intelligence but you cannot understand a very basic point [don't piss off potential customers as you lose money] is normal for the genius types. Give them a 80 page math equation they can do it - ask them to apply common sense, they are stumped.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 25, 2008, 02:40:06 PM
Since that post was blunt, and the arrogance in this thread is running rampant, I will join in.

I busted my ass nothing under 80 hours a week for many years. My sole owned companies are brick and mortar, I habitually employ double digit employees, I have been in business well over a decade, and have no business liabilities barring basic bills to be paid at the end of the month. Feel free to assume I am "not making money" and "doing well" [lol]. You would be very surprised if you knew me IRL.

Again, please consider actually being more business minded not proving superior intellect if you want to make mega cash. You are generally a nice guy, and I [seriously] do believe you are probably a genius, as your abilty to talk about various matters with extreme intelligence but you cannot understand a very basic point [don't piss off potential customers as you lose money] is normal for the genius types. Give them a 80 page math equation they can do it - ask them to apply common sense, they are stumped.

You give him way too much credit.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 25, 2008, 03:02:36 PM
Since that post was blunt, and the arrogance in this thread is running rampant, I will join in.

I busted my ass nothing under 80 hours a week for many years. My sole owned companies are brick and mortar, I habitually employ double digit employees, I have been in business well over a decade, and have no business liabilities barring basic bills to be paid at the end of the month. Feel free to assume I am "not making money" and "doing well" [lol]. You would be very surprised if you knew me IRL.

Again, please consider actually being more business minded not proving superior intellect if you want to make mega cash. You are generally a nice guy, and I [seriously] do believe you are probably a genius, as your abilty to talk about various matters with extreme intelligence but you cannot understand a very basic point [don't piss off potential customers as you lose money] is normal for the genius types. Give them a 80 page math equation they can do it - ask them to apply common sense, they are stumped.

I get your point which you feel (rightfully so) that I overlooked for a while there.  But I'm coming back now by saying that there are no potential customers I'm pissing off really - just a bunch of peanut gallery members being jerks to me.  What you're saying is valid, I'm simply saying it really isn't the case here.  This is just an orchestrated attack on Matt C.  They come about every two weeks (give or take) if you haven't noticed.  ;D

If I stop talking about any controversial issue at hand would you be willing to bet that the same members still try to ruin my business relationships?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 03:43:53 PM
What would Getbig be without good old MattCock? ;D

Love ya man
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 25, 2008, 04:05:27 PM
What would Getbig be without good old MattCock? ;D

Love ya man

I'd give anything for the peanut gallery to stop being so mean to me.  Debussey, please get them to stop being mean to me.  :'(  Discuss.

hmm...

I think I know the solution to this.  Do you think a video of me beating the computer on chess.com on hard mode in under 60 seconds is in order?  Would you say that is the most appropriate solution here?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Special Ed on May 25, 2008, 04:15:47 PM
Mazi (pronounced MattC),
No one is hurting your relationship with BB.com except YOU. Take responsibility for your statements instead of blaming others for their 'interpretation'. You have in fact made a number of racist and anti-semitic posts here. Do you deny that? I can offer proof and evidence if you wish to continue your victimization and persecution charade.

You are following stadard protocol for outed racists:
1) Deny making racial remarks;
2) Deny holding those opinions;
3) Mask opinions under guise of "science" or "history";
4) Use 'racialist' or 'nationalist' to distinguish self;
5) Paint self as a victim of censorship or 'media conspiracy';
6) Insist that you are right despite a totality of evidence to the contrary.

PS. You cited Vince Goodrum as being a 'successful' guy. Please state your definition of success.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 04:21:40 PM
I'd give anything for the peanut gallery to stop being so mean to me.  Debussey, please get them to stop being mean to me.  :'(  Discuss.

hmm...

I think I know the solution to this.  Do you think a video of me beating the computer on chess.com on hard mode in under 60 seconds is in order?  Would you say that is the most appropriate solution here?

ROFL HAHAHA  ;D  :'( ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: wes on May 25, 2008, 04:38:32 PM
And of course, you can link to a quote where I actually said this right?  ::)
No I can`t,because as far as I know you never said this word for word,but your posts surely seem to imply this sentiment.

We can`t all be imagining racism coming through in your posts.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 05:09:13 PM
Mazi (pronounced MattC),
No one is hurting your relationship with BB.com except YOU. Take responsibility for your statements instead of blaming others for their 'interpretation'. You have in fact made a number of racist and anti-semitic posts here. Do you deny that? I can offer proof and evidence if you wish to continue your victimization and persecution charade.

You are following stadard protocol for outed racists:
1) Deny making racial remarks;
2) Deny holding those opinions;
3) Mask opinions under guise of "science" or "history";
4) Use 'racialist' or 'nationalist' to distinguish self;
5) Paint self as a victim of censorship or 'media conspiracy';
6) Insist that you are right despite a totality of evidence to the contrary.

PS. You cited Vince Goodrum as being a 'successful' guy. Please state your definition of success.


Stop being mean to MattCock >:( He does not like it when people are being mean to him >:(   

:

I'd give anything for the peanut gallery to stop being so mean to me.  Debussey, please get them to stop being mean to me.  :'(  Discuss.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: benz on May 25, 2008, 05:13:25 PM
so, whats the current drama?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: candidizzle on May 25, 2008, 05:16:34 PM
okay okay candidizzle will weigh in



pakistan should have the holy land

jews are on the whole smart people


rich people control the world, not any religion




ok done deal page over
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 05:20:30 PM



rich people control the world, not any religion


Yes! Religion sucks and should never have anything to do with politics.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: candidizzle on May 25, 2008, 05:22:20 PM
Yes! Religion sucks and should never have anything to do with politics.
where do laws come from ? (historicallY)

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 05:24:00 PM
where do laws come from ? (historicallY)



Are you trying to subtily make an argument for having religious thought in politics instead of a rationally derived code of ethics that builds the basis for a secular gouvernment? If so, please stop.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: candidizzle on May 25, 2008, 05:25:22 PM
Are you trying to subtily make an argument for having religious thought in politics instead of a rationally derived code of ethics that builds the basis for a secular gouvernment? If so, please stop.
where does a code of ethics come from ?  :D

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 05:26:11 PM
where does a code of ethics come from ?  :D




Rational thought and the theory of maximization of utility. Not religious dogma ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 25, 2008, 05:27:25 PM
Mazi (pronounced MattC),
No one is hurting your relationship with BB.com except YOU. Take responsibility for your statements instead of blaming others for their 'interpretation'. You have in fact made a number of racist and anti-semitic posts here. Do you deny that? I can offer proof and evidence if you wish to continue your victimization and persecution charade.

You are following stadard protocol for outed racists:
1) Deny making racial remarks;
2) Deny holding those opinions;
3) Mask opinions under guise of "science" or "history";
4) Use 'racialist' or 'nationalist' to distinguish self;
5) Paint self as a victim of censorship or 'media conspiracy';
6) Insist that you are right despite a totality of evidence to the contrary.

Anyone who holds any opinions contrary to prescribed politically correct dogma will be deemed as "racist".  Be careful with your labels though because if intellectual people like myself start being labeled as "racist", the negative connotations of the word start to lose their meaning.  I'm friends with many visible minorities.  In fact, as of this writing I am in the company of three of my Lebanese friends all of whom I will be spending the balance of the day with.

I've said some unpopular things and some have gone over-the-top, but generally I do cite research studies to go along with these unpopular opinions.  For example, I can provide a scientific reference which confirms the brain size differences between Asians and whites.  It would make little difference because people would still say it is racist.

But you are purposely exploiting the situation with your knowledge that most people are not smart enough to actually read what I say and would rather follow the consensus.  That is actually the same sneaky approach leaders throughout history have used to manipulate the masses.  Yes, I admit that I have been over-the-top at times.  Generally I am very reasonable unless attacked (which is most of the time on here, lol).

PS. You cited Vince Goodrum as being a 'successful' guy. Please state your definition of success.

Vince Goodrum.  ;D

Circular, I know, but he is comfortable and doing well for himself.  He is an interesting personality on the boards.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: candidizzle on May 25, 2008, 05:28:13 PM

Rational thought and the theory of maximization of utility. Not religious dogma ;)


okay

i disgaree soemwhat with wha your saying because of its implications for the government to be able to put its hands in certain areas where i dont think they should interfere...not in a republic at least...

and i was only playing devils advocate
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 05:30:23 PM

okay

i disgaree soemwhat with wha your saying because of its implications for the government to be able to put its hands in certain areas where i dont think they should interfere...not in a republic at least...

and i was only playing devils advocate

Debussey has grown up in a secular society that places no real value on religion in general, thus, Debussey can't stand religious thought in politics. Irrational horseshit that leads to superstition and stupidity.

 :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: candidizzle on May 25, 2008, 05:35:23 PM
candidizzle grew up going to catecism every week but candidizzle thinks that being religious is moronic and being spiritual is sign of true intelligence

i try to be spiritual

but like i say im retarded

 ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 05:42:07 PM
candidizzle grew up going to catecism every week but candidizzle thinks that being religious is moronic and being spiritual is sign of true intelligence

i try to be spiritual

but like i say im retarded

 ;D

Being spiritual = good stuff, brings an extra dimension to life.

Believing in some irrational stupid religious dogma, ESPECIALLY if you believe it word for word while trying to enforce it on others through politics and shit, then kill yourself.
Make no mistake, Debussey respects religious people that keeps their stuff to themselves while giving their kids the free choice of NOT being religious. But going beyond that = fuck themselves.

Religion in its contemporary form will be gone in 200 - 300 years in the developed world nevertheless ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: candidizzle on May 25, 2008, 06:06:58 PM
Being spiritual = good stuff, brings an extra dimension to life.

Believing in some irrational stupid religious dogma, ESPECIALLY if you believe it word for word while trying to enforce it on others through politics and shit, then kill yourself.
Make no mistake, Debussey respects religious people that keeps their stuff to themselves while giving their kids the free choice of NOT being religious. But going beyond that = fuck themselves.

Religion in its contemporary form will be gone in 200 - 300 years in the developed world nevertheless ;)
the way things are going... the human population in its contemporary form will be gone in 200-300 years ...LOL
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 06:11:12 PM
the way things are going... the human population in its contemporary form will be gone in 200-300 years ...LOL

In 100 years: genetic engineering will be common. Newborns will have super - talents. Nanotech and shit might be used to "upgrade" humans further.

The human of today will not exist in 300 years, that = for sure. Hopefully, some kind of enhanched human will kick ass in teh future.

Praise Transhumanism. It =coming.

All this will happen if humans = not wiped off this planet by "teh technological singularity" (heey Ray Kurzweil), some astroid or disease wipes us off this planet, or some other things. :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: candidizzle on May 25, 2008, 06:15:18 PM
In 100 years: genetic engineering will be common. Newborns will have super - talents. Nanotech and shit might be used to "upgrade" humans further.

The human of today will not exist in 300 years, that = for sure. Hopefully, some kind of enhanched human will kick ass in teh future.

Praise Transhumanism. It =coming.

All this will happen if humans = not wiped off this planet by "teh technological singularity" (heey Ray Kurzweil), some astroid or disease wipes us off this planet, or some other things. :D
i believe we will be

id love to be proven wrong however
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 06:18:19 PM
i believe we will be

id love to be proven wrong however

Debussey believes that a lot of humanity will be, most likely poor people in africa and so on. A small part of humanity will survive, and they might be the ones that are enhanched.

The more intelligence and the more access to data about the earth and technology you have, the better you'll be equipped to survive.  :D

And the less dependent on the rest of the world a group becomes (enhanched self sufficiency through technology),  the more likely it will be that they survive. DEbussey believes that these groups will break out from society once they become sufficiently intelligent if it will increase their chance for survival in light of potential future threats.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: candidizzle on May 25, 2008, 06:21:45 PM
Debussey believes that a lot of humanity will be, most likely poor people in africa and so on. A small part of humanity will survive, and they might be the ones that are enhanched.

The more intelligence and the more access to data about the earth and technology you have, the better you'll be equipped to survive.  :D
i guess people who foresee the end of days could prep themselves for it and try to survive the earths attempt at cleansing itself of this disease called  human beings..

those poeple would be the kind of people that would be appreciated by the environment and thus i bet they would make it through

yes your probably right debussey

m
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on May 25, 2008, 06:25:19 PM
CONGRATS MATT YOU HOLD THE LONGEST THREAD IN THE SUPPLEMENT FORUM....
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 06:25:55 PM
i guess people who foresee the end of days could prep themselves for it and try to survive the earths attempt at cleansing itself of this disease called  human beings..

those poeple would be the kind of people that would be appreciated by the environment and thus i bet they would make it through

yes your probably right debussey

m

Yes.

Debussey believes this will happen. Once a race of superintelligent humans = breeded via genetic engineering, groups will break out and leverage technology to live somewhere where they can survive and thrive. The masses will not know about it, and get wiped out by some disaster perhaps.

As long as these superhumans survive, they can repopulate the planet with beings far superior to the humans of today. And if this happens and 99% of humanity dies out, before the planet is repopulated with super beings that can live in harmony with mother nature and each other, so what? That will be a good thing.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: candidizzle on May 25, 2008, 06:26:48 PM
Yes.

Debussey believes this will happen. Once a race of superintelligent humans = breeded via genetic engineering, groups will break out and leverage technology to live somewhere where they can survive and thrive. The masses will not know about it, and get wiped out by some disaster perhaps.

As long as these superhumans survive, they can repopulate the planet with beings far superior to the humans of today. And if this happens and 99% of humanity dies out, before the planet is repopulated with super beings that can live in harmony with mother nature and each other, so what? That will be a good thing.
agreed.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 25, 2008, 06:28:05 PM
agreed.


Of course, Gary Busey will be their leader >:(
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 25, 2008, 07:26:06 PM
If you're wondering why I'm so vocal about these topics it's because I don't like lies and misinformation promoted over truth because truth should prevail even in some instances where it is negative. Overall, the spread of truth is beneficial for a society. It is not beneficial that we lie about racial and gender equality because it only superficially deals with issues which are far deeper than merely physical ones.

It is not about skin color at all.

Why do so many try to oversimplify a complex social issue with such a simplistic reactionary analysis? It has to do with human nature and the fact that human beings are innately tribal ones. It has to do with the very real differences that exist between race and gender. Physical, intellectual, cultural, and religious. Different races who have different political doctrines and social ideologies.

It's these real differences which create conflict on all levels when people are forced to mix with people of another.  What's the most twisted here is that politically correct dogma has done more to escalate these problems in all areas than anything else.

Oh, the irony.

You have politicians who claim not to be racist yet create a contrived war on drugs with laws for crack cocaine distinct from laws for powder cocaine in order to exploit minorities.  You have a war for oil which does the exact same thing.  People really need to think in the broad context and what truly is best for minorities rather than dealing with the issue superficially based on what they like to hear.

Being politically correct and believing what you want is not the solution.  It causes more harm than good.

I am in favour of promoting a pragmatic solution to racial issues.  If I was a US president, I would have all non-violent drug offenders released from prison.  Whether you admit it or not, this is a big way in which black people and other minority groups are exploited under the guise good (the "war on drugs" and it supposedly being positive).  Being PC does not help matters.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: benz on May 25, 2008, 07:35:50 PM
So you hate JEWS and you are a HARDCORE NAZI?

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 25, 2008, 07:38:31 PM
matt you say your first priority is making money but it seems you cater to your ego more than anything else

otherwise you would not let your personal beliefs interfere with your business...although you deny it does, but you know its not prudent and financially smart to preach such controversial beliefs

your continuous preaching, ranting and desire to prove YOU are right and intellectually superior is just you feeding your ego. 

Ego is a very powerful thing------it can be a much more powerful than your intellect if you continue to feed it.

not trying to trash you or even argue your views---just giving you something to think about
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: candidizzle on May 25, 2008, 07:41:46 PM
if making money is what makes you happy then make money !

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: wes on May 25, 2008, 08:00:44 PM
Matt,why do you think the non-violent drug offenders were incarecerated in the first place.

Not all are arrested for simple possesion,they commit a little thing called crime which involves other innocent people being victimized.

You`d think a genious would take this into account.

Also not just minorities use crack,coke,or other drugs...............raci al profiling,stereotyping,and pigeonholeing come to mind.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 25, 2008, 08:04:59 PM
Matt,why do you think the non-violent drug offenders were incarecerated in the first place.

Not all are arrested for simple possesion,they commit a little thing called crime which involves other innocent people being victimized.

You`d think a genious would take this into account.

Also not just minorities use crack,coke,or other drugs.
consenual crimes are just that consenual---they hurt no one but the user, the addict----just because its called a crime doesnt change that.

someone addicted to drugs is much different then a rapist or murderer-----one has a disease while the other is malicious and hurting other people while the drug addict is only hurting themselves

drug addicts/ people who commit consenual crimes need rehab not jail
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: candidizzle on May 25, 2008, 08:12:01 PM
what constitutes and addiction?

they say that any habit is an addiction when it starts to interfere with your everyday responsiblities.


what are your thoughts?


Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 25, 2008, 08:16:20 PM
matt you say your first priority is making money but it seems you cater to your ego more than anything else

otherwise you would not let your personal beliefs interfere with your business...although you deny it does, but you know its not prudent and financially smart to preach such controversial beliefs

your continuous preaching, ranting and desire to prove YOU are right and intellectually superior is just you feeding your ego. 

Ego is a very powerful thing------it can be a much more powerful than your intellect if you continue to feed it.

not trying to trash you or even argue your views---just giving you something to think about

This is a good and insightful post.  Well said.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 25, 2008, 08:20:39 PM
what constitutes and addiction?

they say that any habit is an addiction when it starts to interfere with your everyday responsiblities.


what are your thoughts?



obviously interfering with normal life----but doing it at the expense of people you love-----the NEED to do it, whether it be physical or mental, inability to stop, emotional problems associated with it, loss of enjoyment of things you previously liked, mood swings, tolerance of drugs/alcohol (they stop working)

many others but thats a short list
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 25, 2008, 08:21:35 PM
Matt,why do you think the non-violent drug offenders were incarecerated in the first place.

Not all are arrested for simple possesion,they commit a little thing called crime which involves other innocent people being victimized.

You`d think a genious would take this into account.

Also not just minorities use crack,coke,or other drugs...............raci al profiling,stereotyping,and pigeonholeing come to mind.

That is a superficial analysis of the issue, and is only correct at first glance without looking at things in more depth.  The purpose of the contrived war on drugs is to put inherent risk in the drug trade, risk which must thusly be absorbed by the end user cost of the drugs in question.  It is this risk (prohibition which is a complete failure) which increases the profit margins in the drug industry which are made directly off the backs of the drug addicts with health problems.  More risk = more profits.  It is the war on drugs which fuels the cartels and drug dealers.  No prohibition = no drug dealers.  Not to mention no drugs which are produced on the black market and are therefore automatically more dangerous since they are not tested for purity.  Ironic, I know.

You can never fight drugs on the supply side.  In my community, between 2001-2004, 25 kilos of cocaine were taken off the city streets.  This goes through the city in less than a month.  Ask yourself why such a war is waged which is obviously a complete failure.  Ask yourself which interest groups are benefiting these political wars.  These are the obvious questions you must ask.  Analyzing things superficially for simple answers is not in the best interest of individuals or society.  Analyzing them in the broad context is essential to formulate appropriate public policy.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 25, 2008, 08:24:36 PM
This is a good and insightful post.  Well said.
respect for listening

Im no holy man myself, I struggle the same battle as do 99.9% of people out there------I try to check myself, although sometimes I move to fast and impulsively.

half the battle is being aware of your ego before making important decisions-------i.e. what am I trying to accomplish, why, and is this the best path to get there
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 25, 2008, 08:26:24 PM
Matt,why do you think the non-violent drug offenders were incarecerated in the first place.

Not all are arrested for simple possesion,they commit a little thing called crime which involves other innocent people being victimized.

You`d think a genious would take this into account.

Also not just minorities use crack,coke,or other drugs...............raci al profiling,stereotyping,and pigeonholeing come to mind.

You're trying to talk with logic to someone who lack that trait.
He seem to think that because he played Chess.com so much he is now very smart...he fail to understand he just found how to beat an algorithm. Its kind of like that guy that put himself getting 4K in a few secs on Facebook "Who's got the biggest brain".

Matt simply lives in his own reality, its unless to try to convince him or debate with him because unlike what he claims he isnt debating. He just wants a place for people to hear him.
Thats how insecure racists are, just look at the videos he posted....NO SANE man would post that on the worlds leading BB forum....he doesn't care about being a joke he just want to get noticed.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 25, 2008, 08:39:21 PM
wes is ignorant if he believes that by calling something a "crime" it automatically means it is someone hurting another person

in Arab countries not wearing a Burka is a serious crime-----does wes believe that's a person hurting someone else because they are not wearing a piece of clothing??  OF course he doesn't because he hasn't been indoctrinated with that belief, but if he grew up in an Arab country, with his simple minded thinking, he would believe it does.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 25, 2008, 09:07:41 PM
You're trying to talk with logic to someone who lack that trait.
He seem to think that because he played Chess.com so much he is now very smart...he fail to understand he just found how to beat an algorithm. Its kind of like that guy that put himself getting 4K in a few secs on Facebook "Who's got the biggest brain".

Matt simply lives in his own reality, its unless to try to convince him or debate with him because unlike what he claims he isnt debating. He just wants a place for people to hear him.
Thats how insecure racists are, just look at the videos he posted....NO SANE man would post that on the worlds leading BB forum....he doesn't care about being a joke he just want to get noticed.

Do you care to formally debate the issue?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 25, 2008, 09:23:12 PM
I get your point which you feel (rightfully so) that I overlooked for a while there.  But I'm coming back now by saying that there are no potential customers I'm pissing off really - just a bunch of peanut gallery members being jerks to me.  What you're saying is valid, I'm simply saying it really isn't the case here.  This is just an orchestrated attack on Matt C.  They come about every two weeks (give or take) if you haven't noticed.  ;D

If I stop talking about any controversial issue at hand would you be willing to bet that the same members still try to ruin my business relationships?

Your points are valid, but you have to recall lurkers?

Why do you think Chick posts certain things here - for the lurkers. As an aside, I was once out to dinner with a bunch of top pros, and they were talking about getbig - one turned to me "Do you ever read it?" ;D

This thread has over 3,000 views. If one person has glanced at it and gotten a negative view of you and decided not to utilize your business/visit your site - that is one too many.

With business, 'pride often comes before a fall'. As a fairly young female, yes and a black female at that, in my position in business/life it is often assumed some man gave me something, that I like inherited everything I have and all sorts of stupid crap. Even on this board the things people say to me are nothing short of amusing. People will down me, throw racial slurs, expect that I am some tramp who flashes her ass for a $50 photoshoot - and then brag about an income that I would not even get out of bed for and a lifestyle I would not expect my dog to live. Seriously.

You have to deal with all types in business. I am so used to it by now. My tenants actually condescend to me. They live in my property - and deem themself above me when some struggle to pay their rent lol ;D

Ignore 'dumb' people - the world is rife with them. Focus on making money, recall every page view is a potential customer for you, and never forget what you put in writing always remains.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 25, 2008, 09:42:46 PM
Mazi (pronounced MattC),
No one is hurting your relationship with BB.com except YOU. Take responsibility for your statements instead of blaming others for their 'interpretation'. You have in fact made a number of racist and anti-semitic posts here. Do you deny that? I can offer proof and evidence if you wish to continue your victimization and persecution charade.

You are following stadard protocol for outed racists:
1) Deny making racial remarks;
2) Deny holding those opinions;
3) Mask opinions under guise of "science" or "history";
4) Use 'racialist' or 'nationalist' to distinguish self;
5) Paint self as a victim of censorship or 'media conspiracy';
6) Insist that you are right despite a totality of evidence to the contrary.

PS. You cited Vince Goodrum as being a 'successful' guy. Please state your definition of success.

Special Ed, how do you feel about Blockhead's brand of racial humor? I think it's pretty funny but I could also see how it would be offensive to some blacks. Would you let him do his jokes about blacks on your show? If he started joking about Jews in the same way, in every other post, using negative Jewish stereotypes, would you take offense?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: benz on May 25, 2008, 09:49:19 PM
Special Ed, how do you feel about Blockhead's brand of racial humor? I think it's pretty funny but I could also see how it would be offensive to some blacks. Would you let him do his jokes about blacks on your show? If he started joking about Jews in the same way, in every other post, using negative Jewish stereotypes, would you take offense?

When i called ed, later that day he sent to me a pm with something like "I am pleased to listen to your voice you fucking dirty greasy mexican", not that im crying about it now, but it seems like he can insult others but not take it back!

I still think he's cool, jewish but cool lol
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 25, 2008, 09:58:18 PM
When i called ed, later that day he sent to me a pm with something like "I am pleased to listen to your voice you fucking dirty greasy mexican", not that im crying about it now, but it seems like he can insult others but not take it back!

I still think he's cool, jewish but cool lol

Ed is cool. We are all extra sensitive when hate is directed against our own "race". Ed probably wouldn't find it that funny if Block constantly joked about Jews using negative Jewish stereotypes. That's how we all work, our loyalty is to our own group.

Block's jokes are just that, jokes. However I doubt he would tell 'em to Cormier for example IRL.  :D

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 25, 2008, 10:04:41 PM
Do you care to formally debate the issue?

Debate you wanting to debate just to get attention.... ::)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 25, 2008, 11:42:20 PM
Your points are valid, but you have to recall lurkers?

Why do you think Chick posts certain things here - for the lurkers. As an aside, I was once out to dinner with a bunch of top pros, and they were talking about getbig - one turned to me "Do you ever read it?" ;D

This thread has over 3,000 views. If one person has glanced at it and gotten a negative view of you and decided not to utilize your business/visit your site - that is one too many.

With business, 'pride often comes before a fall'. As a fairly young female, yes and a black female at that, in my position in business/life it is often assumed some man gave me something, that I like inherited everything I have and all sorts of stupid crap. Even on this board the things people say to me are nothing short of amusing. People will down me, throw racial slurs, expect that I am some tramp who flashes her ass for a $50 photoshoot - and then brag about an income that I would not even get out of bed for and a lifestyle I would not expect my dog to live. Seriously.

You have to deal with all types in business. I am so used to it by now. My tenants actually condescend to me. They live in my property - and deem themself above me when some struggle to pay their rent lol ;D

Ignore 'dumb' people - the world is rife with them. Focus on making money, recall every page view is a potential customer for you, and never forget what you put in writing always remains.

Yes, these are all fair comments.  The G&O board is not the place for intellectualism.  Perhaps the politics board is since smarter people would intentionally choose to go there.

I am not the type to do anything that seems forced though.  I would rather be my own man even to my own detriment at times.  This goes with what Nordic Beast said about having an overwhelming ego in times of decision making.  Another side of me keeps on driving me to do what I can to build up financially for the sake of myself in my family.  I think ultimately that side will win out.

I asked someone on here whose name I will not mention what I would have to do to prove to him that I can back up what I say.  He basically said that once I become a millionaire that will prove it.  Yeah, that happens overnight.  ::)  I'll be there in 10 years.  That kind of thing takes time.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 25, 2008, 11:46:13 PM
Ed is cool. We are all extra sensitive when hate is directed against our own "race". Ed probably wouldn't find it that funny if Block constantly joked about Jews using negative Jewish stereotypes. That's how we all work, our loyalty is to our own group.

Block's jokes are just that, jokes. However I doubt he would tell 'em to Cormier for example IRL.  :D



Interestingly, I am not.  To understand why that would be to understand just how closely my mind operates free from emotion.  I constantly try to partition my emotion from logical decision making and to be quite frank, I am pretty consistent at it.

I speak accurately of southern Italians and Britons - for better or for worse.  I can objectively state that I see good things in both cultures but neither are devoid of fault and I acknowledge them honestly also.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 25, 2008, 11:51:26 PM
Debate you wanting to debate just to get attention.... ::)


I hear what you're saying.  I'm pretty sure I can read between the lines.

Are you saying that I should post a video of me solving the Rubik's cube in order to redeem myself?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Special Ed on May 26, 2008, 12:05:00 AM
As many can attest, I have a very open-minded sense of humor. What's funny to me is what makes me laugh. Black jokes, Jewish jokes, Polish jokes, and even handicapped jokes can all be funny. In fact, my two favorite jokes are a horribly tasteless gay joke and an even more tasteless child molestation joke.

Blockhead's impressions or exaggerated stereotyping is his attempt to entertain and get some laughs.
I do not consider ethnic, religious, or racial jokes to be even remotely similar to Mazi's comments.

Jokes based on stereotypes are used to try to make people laugh; Mazi's comments based on stereotypes were being used to try to make people hate or subjugate others.

I think there's a big difference.

As for my private comments to Benz, I doubt I would ever confuse a greasy Chilean with a greasy Mexican. :)

And Mazi, I accept your apology.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 26, 2008, 12:18:11 AM
As for my private comments to Benz, I doubt I would ever confuse a greasy Chilean with a greasy Mexican. :)

LOL!!!!!!!  Sorry to anyone who may be offended by this, but this literally made me LOL.

Just a small comment: I think rather than putting "I doubt I would ever...", I would go with "I apologize for offending you because I would never confuse...", THEN make the offensive comment, lol.  I like those kinds of jokes that come with a primer which puts a person's guard down, then comes the comment.  Such as "You may be slime, but I trust you.  Just kidding.  I don't trust you", which effectively retracts the part you don't expect retracted, lol.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: columbusdude82 on May 26, 2008, 12:21:53 AM
Matzi has filthy dealings with the Lebanese Hezbollah camel-rapists. His anti-semitism has no bound!!!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: benz on May 26, 2008, 12:29:37 AM
As many can attest, I have a very open-minded sense of humor. What's funny to me is what makes me laugh. Black jokes, Jewish jokes, Polish jokes, and even handicapped jokes can all be funny. In fact, my two favorite jokes are a horribly tasteless gay joke and an even more tasteless child molestation joke.

Blockhead's impressions or exaggerated stereotyping is his attempt to entertain and get some laughs.
I do not consider ethnic, religious, or racial jokes to be even remotely similar to Mazi's comments.

Jokes based on stereotypes are used to try to make people laugh; Mazi's comments based on stereotypes were being used to try to make people hate or subjugate others.

I think there's a big difference.

As for my private comments to Benz, I doubt I would ever confuse a greasy Chilean with a greasy Mexican. :)

And Mazi, I accept your apology.

hahaha  ;D

dont worry ed, my ashtray is always open for jews  ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 26, 2008, 12:30:46 AM
Special Ed,

While I have - or perhaps had (in response to your recent attacks) - some degree of respect for you, your attempted pogrom targeted at both myself and my business interests is becoming tiresome; it has revealed you as a rather pathetic, untrustworthy character.

First of all Special Ed, you cannot link to any post of mine that is not based on established fact - certainly nothing that would fail to hold up in court - so please, put a stop to your hammy-styled Alan Dershowitz act.

I understand that facts and hard science are not your game, so I will explain my position FOR THE FINAL TIME; any further posts from you will be construed as baiting and ignored from now on, unless you give me some substance.

Most all credible scientists in this area (Pinker, Dawkins, Risch, Harpending et al) believe that intelligence is 80% heritable; Indeed, Pinker even endorses the CHH paper and therefore states that it's a myth that race and intelligence don't exist, that they are driven largely by [80%] genetic factors.

Pinker in a conference at the Institute for Jewish Research covering the CHH hypothesis stated the following:

Quote
- The Jewish IQ advantage is largely heritable. Pinker noted the irony that even the existence of intelligence is not recognized by many intellectuals. "I find it remarkable that intellectuals deny that intelligence exists because intellectuals are obsessed with intelligence."

Pinker though quickly pointed out that a blue-ribbon panel appointed by the American Psychological Association defined the consensus view as embracing intelligence as a real and stable property; that IQ is a good measure of it; that it is a good predictor of success in life; and it is from 50 - 80% heritable. Pinker pointed out that twin and adoption studies have shown that whatever the environmental causes may be, family upbringing is not among them. Whether it's twins reared apart or adoptees vs. birth-children, there's nothing about the parents or siblings that seem to matter; the evidence for environmental influence on IQ is weaker than the genetic evidence.


- The Ashknazim were highly endogamous with very little outbreeding

- Money lending was the primary occupation were ones where intelligence provided a distinct advantage, thus saw the jews gravitate to said vocation

- Financial success translated into reproductive success - i.e., more children. Unlike today, in the past - before the Demographic Transition in the 18th century, more wealth meant more children.

- Ashkenazim are associated with unusually high frequencies of certain rare genetic diseases; The prevalence of these disorders has often been attributed to drift - i.e, random mutations occurring within a genetically isolated populations. But CHH calculate the odds of such random mutations clustering around sets of related genes as improbably low; these mutations show tell-tale signs of selection.

- That the presence of these diseases are associated with increased intelligence. There is already evidence that one Ashkenazi disease, Torsion Dystonia, is clearly associated with elevated IQ

So there you go Special Ed, take Pinker to court.

This was never about supremacy, it has always been about hard science and truth.

For the slow here: RACE AND INTELLIGENCE EXIST AND THEY ARE GENETIC IN NATURE.

Special Ed, you (as with that imbecile Horton) have graphically demonstrated a) your recourse to nothing other than ad hominem, and b) your inability to read my previous posts - specifically the ones that contained links to elite academics (from Lynn through Dawkins, from Harpending through Pinker) from several different fields (from genetics through psychometric testing).

It makes my cringe to hear you attempting to validate your position here; you clearly know nothing of this subject and are merely being shown up as the parasitic bottom feeding lawyer you are; It's hilarious in the extreme to watch you engage in such antics while simultaneously overlooking the views of James Watson (you do know who he was?)

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All our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really

Quote
"There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/fury-at-dna-pioneers-theory-africans-are-less-intelligent-than-westerners-394898.html

The above quote from James Watson - THE WORLD'S FOREMOST MOLECULAR BIOLOGIST.

The intellectual landscape (based on bullshit such as Lewontin's Fallacy) had previously been structured to eradicate controversial hypotheses out a priori (race does not exist, intelligence does not exist, the mind is a blank slate inscribed by parents) yet - as always - truth is winning; and academics of such stature as the above names are no longer bothered about stating such facts.

So there you go Ed, please carry on at your own convenience, the peanut gallery members are waiting.

This will be my final post on this topic in THIS thread.  If anyone wants to continue this discussion with me, take it to the politics board or PM.  The only comments you see of me in this thread from this point forward are going to be about M3 and jerking off the dudes at BB.com through praise.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: wes on May 26, 2008, 03:39:16 AM
I wasn`t inferring that drug addiction was a crime,I was refferring to the crimes that they commit many times in order to obtain the money to get drugs...........involves theft usually.

I think rehab is waranted also but if someone steals your car to sell it for drugs and wrecks it,they usually don`t consider re-hab as a first choice for punishment.

Most drug addicts are repeat offenders, and at times in the act of a theft to obtain money for drugs,innocent people get hurt just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Far from victimless,think of the people adversely affected directly or indirectly by just one heroin addict.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 26, 2008, 05:17:33 AM
intelligence does not exist, the mind is a blank slate inscribed by parents

Horseshit like that won't survive. Like you said: Truth eventually always wins.

Ps: Good post dear MattCock.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 26, 2008, 05:28:40 AM
calling something a "crime" it automatically means it is someone hurting another person

A quote of Martin Luther Kings I always liked:

"Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal
"

And I concur. My parents lived under Jim Crow for 25 years, and it was "crime" for them to get medical care in a hospital, enter a front door of many establishments, go to the movies and so much more. Brutal criminals going to a movie ::)

PS - This is the hottest thread the nutrition board has seen forever. Personally, I don't even venture here normally.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: wes on May 26, 2008, 05:50:15 AM
Matt,I have to ask you a very serious question...........does the Higher Power stack by BB.com really work?  LOL   ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 26, 2008, 07:32:43 AM
So Matt get back to saying that anyone Jewish is genetically smarter than him and he will never be able to change that, so therefore he hates Jewish people out of jealousy.

Oh wait...they are still inferior to his superior race and genetics...as showed by his magnificent videos  ::)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 26, 2008, 07:42:22 AM
I wasn`t inferring that drug addiction was a crime,I was refferring to the crimes that they commit many times in order to obtain the money to get drugs...........involves theft usually.

I think rehab is waranted also but if someone steals your car to sell it for drugs and wrecks it,they usually don`t consider re-hab as a first choice for punishment.

Most drug addicts are repeat offenders, and at times in the act of a theft to obtain money for drugs,innocent people get hurt just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Far from victimless,think of the people adversely affected directly or indirectly by just one heroin addict.

if the drug addict was supplied drugs through a federal government treatment program---do you think he would be stealing cars to support his habit?? Of course not, criminalizing the drug issue only makes underground criminal syndicates more powerful and drives up the cost for the drug addict so that he has to steal, cheat and lie in order to get his fix.

treat the drug issue like another other disease where the addict can get prescriptions for his drug and be put in rehab and treatment programs to find out and resolve the underlying issues as to why he or she is a drug addict.


Dont you see how making drugs illegal, thus them being on the black market for ridiculous amounts of money, creates this atmosphere of crime and theft?? Someone would not steal and thieve for something the government was giving them for free.

It would also lessen the financial power of criminal organizations that use the war on drugs to fuel their wars, coups, rebellions, terrorist actions etc... All of a sudden they would be making billions less $$$$.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: columbusdude82 on May 26, 2008, 07:42:34 AM
A quote of Martin Luther Kings I always liked:

"Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal
"

And I concur. My parents lived under Jim Crow for 25 years, and it was "crime" for them to get medical care in a hospital, enter a front door of many establishments, go to the movies and so much more. Brutal criminals going to a movie ::)

PS - This is the hottest thread the nutrition board has seen forever. Personally, I don't even venture here normally.

It's time for "people of color" to get over this shit already. I know I have!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: wes on May 26, 2008, 08:17:53 AM
if the drug addict was supplied drugs through a federal government treatment program---do you think he would be stealing cars to support his habit?? Of course not, criminalizing the drug issue only makes underground criminal syndicates more powerful and drives up the cost for the drug addict so that he has to steal, cheat and lie in order to get his fix.

treat the drug issue like another other disease where the addict can get prescriptions for his drug and be put in rehab and treatment programs to find out and resolve the underlying issues as to why he or she is a drug addict.


Dont you see how making drugs illegal, thus them being on the black market for ridiculous amounts of money, creates this atmosphere of crime and theft?? Someone would not steal and thieve for something the government was giving them for free.

It would also lessen the financial power of criminal organizations that use the war on drugs to fuel their wars, coups, rebellions, terrorist actions etc... All of a sudden they would be making billions less $$$$.

Have you ever seen a heroin addict with a $500.00 a day habit?

I have, and no amount of drugs the government could/would supply them is gonna` be enough to compensate for the magnitude of their addiction.

Re-habs work,I`ve been in one myself,but they only work if the addict wants to recover.

I do however agree with you on the organized crime and drug cartels becoming more powerful and rich from drug sales,but in reality,the government will never legalize deadly drug use in any setting.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 26, 2008, 09:01:16 AM
if the drug addict was supplied drugs through a federal government treatment program---do you think he would be stealing cars to support his habit?? Of course not, criminalizing the drug issue only makes underground criminal syndicates more powerful and drives up the cost for the drug addict so that he has to steal, cheat and lie in order to get his fix.

treat the drug issue like another other disease where the addict can get prescriptions for his drug and be put in rehab and treatment programs to find out and resolve the underlying issues as to why he or she is a drug addict.


Dont you see how making drugs illegal, thus them being on the black market for ridiculous amounts of money, creates this atmosphere of crime and theft?? Someone would not steal and thieve for something the government was giving them for free.

It would also lessen the financial power of criminal organizations that use the war on drugs to fuel their wars, coups, rebellions, terrorist actions etc... All of a sudden they would be making billions less $$$$.


1.One of the main reasons drugs are illegal is due to them making people into zombies. Who will want to go and work when he can be high all day long on free government supplied drugs?

2.Most steroid myths about receptors downgrade come from street drugs where it really does happen.
Thus you will supply more and more until people will OD and die.

3.Many drugs have very powerful effects, and you really don't want people on an acid trip walking down the streets/driving/operating machinery or whatever. There is enough shit with Alcohol (and cigarettes) why add drugs as another legal problem?

4.I agree that the black market gets stronger but that is not the way to handle them.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 26, 2008, 09:11:10 AM
1.One of the main reasons drugs are illegal is due to them making people into zombies. Who will want to go and work when he can be high all day long on free government supplied drugs?

2.Most steroid myths about receptors downgrade come from street drugs where it really does happen.
Thus you will supply more and more until people will OD and die.

3.Many drugs have very powerful effects, and you really don't want people on an acid trip walking down the streets/driving/operating machinery or whatever. There is enough shit with Alcohol (and cigarettes) why add drugs as another legal problem?

4.I agree that the black market gets stronger but that is not the way to handle them.
so what is your answer---shall we keep funneling billions of dollars into a war on drugs that doesnt work??

do you think its fair they use hard earned taxpayer money (when we are on the verge of a recession) to pay for this war, which has only exacerbated the problem and fueled criminal enterprises to greater power.

people want to take drugs, period. Obviously throwing people in jail doesn't deter that.  Shit America has the highest jailed citizen rate of any modern country :o.

My argument is not to just blindly give drugs to people, but rather to have programs set up (using the money they funnel into the futile war on drugs) to help people rehab instead of throwing them in jail cells, I think making drugs legal would also help the criminal problem associated with drug use.

whats being done now isnt working so your arguments for continuance of these procedures are fundamentally flawed and idealistic and in no way rooted in the reality of the situation.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 26, 2008, 09:23:19 AM


whats being done now isnt working so your arguments for continuance of these procedures are fundamentally flawed and idealistic and in no way rooted in the reality of the situation.

WTF? I hope you don't refer to my arguments about the effects since they  are true and based on facts, thats why you didn't try to dispute any of them.

Now the dealing with drugs is far from being so simple that me and you will just find the solution in two posts on Getbig  ::)

I don't think legalizing them will help because of:

1.The reasons I stated.

2.Their nature will (and the fact they are currently controlled by them) keep the criminals near them.
There are plenty of legal business that appeal to the underworld and they stay near them, Casino comes to mind :)

3.I do agree that changing of the laws will help, some in a more harsh manner and some the other way.
For example it might help to make dealing a one strike felon, deal once and you will never see the light of day (just off my mind don't take it as anything more).
Maybe applying some of the new powers they give homeland security might help, who knows.
And on the other hand, using can be legal to any of the "reasonable" drugs such as grass, coke, steroids and than some.


I will say again, you make it sound way too easy if you ask me, legalizing drugs might open a hornets nest so its better to keep that as a last resort.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 26, 2008, 09:26:05 AM
It's time for "people of color" to get over this shit already. I know I have!

STFU

I was making a very rational statement, about illegal things not being always just and fair.

Your fat ass never lived it, my parents did for 25 years - which is a fact.

My father's brother died as he was barred from a hospital.

People had family die in the holocaust.

So tell you what, tell me your address, I will come with a gun and kill your sibling or your mom and then tell you to get over it then.

Hope that was clear :)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 26, 2008, 09:31:00 AM
WTF? I hope you don't refer to my arguments about the effects since they  are true and based on facts, thats why you didn't try to dispute any of them.

Now the dealing with drugs is far from being so simple that me and you will just find the solution in two posts on Getbig  ::)

I don't think legalizing them will help because of:

1.The reasons I stated.

2.Their nature will (and the fact they are currently controlled by them) keep the criminals near them.
There are plenty of legal business that appeal to the underworld and they stay near them, Casino comes to mind :)

3.I do agree that changing of the laws will help, some in a more harsh manner and some the other way.
For example it might help to make dealing a one strike felon, deal once and you will never see the light of day
(just off my mind don't take it as anything more).
Maybe applying some of the new powers they give homeland security might help, who knows.
And on the other hand, using can be legal to any of the "reasonable" drugs such as grass, coke, steroids and than some.


I will say again, you make it sound way too easy if you ask me, legalizing drugs might open a hornets nest so its better to keep that as a last resort.
the 3 strikes law has failed miserably----it has not reduced criminal activity and has caused overcrowding in California prisons...yet you want to make a one strike law :-\  that sounds like communist Russia to me or North Korea, shit we might as well put them in labor camps :-\

we Americans are supposedly living in a FREE nation, taking our civil liberties away, as the "patriot act" does, will only push us farther away from that ideal and make us more into a Soviet Russia clone.  We may live in a "safe" society but does that really matter if you are not free to do anything, shit someone wont hurt themselves if you lock them in a padded cell with a straight jacket on but is that really living ???  Be careful the power you grant the government for the best intentioned laws can be used and manipulated into making us drones and pawns of the state.  The founding fathers of this country would be appalled at such laws.

You CANNOT lock people up for something that is inherent in their nature, people have and will always use drugs.  The answer is to treat them as people with a disease instead of as criminals and locking them up in a small cell and throwing away the key.

The answer is not easy, I agree with you, but things must change and the answer does not lie in imprisoning our citizens.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 26, 2008, 09:34:40 AM
Quoting without replying means....?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 26, 2008, 09:45:03 AM
Quoting without replying means....?
sorry my mistake-----I accidentally pushed post and did not get a chance to write my response.

I am not attacking you, this kind of dialogue is good and what the country needs.  We must change this problem of Americans rotting in prison for consensual crimes.

Look at California, they legalized weed and the state hasn't been torn apart by criminals or fallen into the sea as some Conservatives said would happen.  It has actually been very beneficial to helping their budget crisis.  Imagine 8.25% of every eighth sold going to the state, that adds up to a lot of money the state was not seeing before legalization.  Our economy cannot afford to lose these funds and have this money funneled to places like Afghanistan (heroin) or Colombia (cocaine), and into the hands of terrorists.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 26, 2008, 10:00:30 AM
sorry my mistake-----I accidentally pushed post and did not get a chance to write my response.

I am not attacking you, this kind of dialogue is good and what the country needs.  We must change this problem of Americans rotting in prison for consensual crimes.

Look at California, they legalized weed and the state hasn't been torn apart by criminals or fallen into the sea as some Conservatives said would happen.  It has actually been very beneficial to helping their budget crisis.  Imagine 8.25% of every eighth sold going to the state, that adds up to a lot of money the state was not seeing before legalization.  Our economy cannot afford to lose these funds and have this money funneled to places like Afghanistan (heroin) or Colombia (cocaine), and into the hands of terrorists.

Well I'm not from the US but if my opinions can help America I'm all for it  ;D
Notice that I did mention Weed as something that can easily be legalized but LSD,crack and others are drugs that shouldn't be anywhere beside labs.

BTW don't think I'm some kind of old prone, I have experienced with steroids,weed and some other light drugs and I have plenty of friends who use regularly without killing them self or others.
But I and them have also seen what some drugs can cause people even at low dosages, hell man if alcohol wasn't rooted in human history it would stay banned like in the 20's, and although I like to drink I can see why.

Also keep in mind that most people are far from what you and I are, we can keep a diet, train and in general like to be in control of ourself, but I don't trust a fat bitch that can't resist a Mars bar to resist ODing on LSD or shooting people with her daddy's rifle because she thought she saw demons chasing her lol  ;D

Just think that instead of a regular bar you'll have LSD and crack bars at parties...it won't be a pretty sight.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: CQ on May 26, 2008, 10:04:03 AM
As a kind of irrelevant aside, maybe 5[?] years ago, one island here was going to legalize weed - and the US threatened them with economic sanctions like Cuba, and hinted at "armed intervention". This gave me the impression the US was massively anti weed legalization.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Special Ed on May 26, 2008, 10:24:42 AM
Mazi has now become his nemesis Adonis, cutting and pasting off the internet to substitute for a lack of intelligent argument or original ideas or an ability to articulate his position.

Once again, Mazi is attempting to divert attention from Bodybuilding.com's affiliation with his racist and anti-semitic rantings, falsely claiming that I am distorting facts, creating "strawmen", and otherwise misrepresenting his words and "ideas".

Rather than back off or re-consider his statements, he now claims that "Bodybuilding.com is aware of my views and has no problem with (affiliating with racist and anti-semitic websites)."

Armed with nothing but a falsely inflated sense of IQ and a shovel, Mazi continues to bury himself deeper and deeper into a hole, completely devoid of common sense and wholly resistant to all of those who try to point out the error of his ways.

Is it possible for a man with a 130 IQ to possess the common sense of a donkey?

Or is it more likely that a donkey learned to cut and paste and take orders from his commandant Woten?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: columbusdude82 on May 26, 2008, 10:28:08 AM
Mazi has now become his nemesis Adonis, cutting and pasting off the internet to substitute for a lack of intelligent argument or original ideas or an ability to articulate his position.

Once again, Mazi is attempting to divert attention from Bodybuilding.com's affiliation with his racist and anti-semitic rantings, falsely claiming that I am distorting facts, creating "strawmen", and otherwise misrepresenting his words and "ideas".

Rather than back off or re-consider his statements, he now claims that "Bodybuilding.com is aware of my views and has no problem with (affiliating with racist and anti-semitic websites)."

Armed with nothing but a falsely inflated sense of IQ and a shovel, Mazi continues to bury himself deeper and deeper into a hole, completely devoid of common sense and wholly resistant to all of those who try to point out the error of his ways.

Is it possible for a man with a 130 IQ to possess the common sense of a donkey?

Or is it more likely that a donkey learned to cut and paste and take orders from his commandant Woten?

Brutal!!!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 26, 2008, 11:33:07 AM

Is it possible for a man with a 130 IQ to possess the common sense of a donkey?




I have a hard time believing that claim of his from his unbelievably retarded posts over the years.
And if its anything close to the truth he just proves my point, IQ tests are far from an accurate assessment of ones true intelligence.

Oh wait...he said he's great at spatial tests...great...I can't tell you how many times in life I had to face challenges that used my ability to look at drawings and such.  ::)
The irony is that this self proclaim fortress of logic, boast at a trait more fitting an artist.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 26, 2008, 12:17:21 PM
Matt,I have to ask you a very serious question...........does the Higher Power stack by BB.com really work?  LOL   ;D

Yes it does!  Not as well as SIZEON though, but it has been going pretty well so far.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 26, 2008, 04:34:22 PM
Mazi has now become his nemesis Adonis, cutting and pasting off the internet to substitute for a lack of intelligent argument or original ideas or an ability to articulate his position.

Once again, Mazi is attempting to divert attention from Bodybuilding.com's affiliation with his racist and anti-semitic rantings, falsely claiming that I am distorting facts, creating "strawmen", and otherwise misrepresenting his words and "ideas".

Rather than back off or re-consider his statements, he now claims that "Bodybuilding.com is aware of my views and has no problem with (affiliating with racist and anti-semitic websites)."

Armed with nothing but a falsely inflated sense of IQ and a shovel, Mazi continues to bury himself deeper and deeper into a hole, completely devoid of common sense and wholly resistant to all of those who try to point out the error of his ways.

Is it possible for a man with a 130 IQ to possess the common sense of a donkey?

Or is it more likely that a donkey learned to cut and paste and take orders from his commandant Woten?

You are brutally running away from debating your debate friend MattCock directly. You did not adress a single argument or the references he wrote to back up his argument.

You = a funny and smart guy Ed, but not in this case. You write: "cutting and pasting off the internet to substitute for a lack of intelligent argument or original ideas or an ability to articulate his position. " -> That = a bullshit statement. In an argument such as this, citing references that forms the foundation of your beliefs = the EXACT thing you should do. It adds credibility. "Your own ideas" is pretty much useless here, because "your own ideas" = not scientific research, and it = science that should be used as debate points if any realistic discussion is to be had. So far you have not shown any insight into the science behind this debate, nor do you show any willingness to accept the science referenced to.

The way you are debating now is like having a layman trying to discuss string theory with somebody with a master degree in physics. Hard to debate anything related to science when you have no clue about the underlying scientific concepts and empirical findings!

You lost this argument.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 26, 2008, 07:25:11 PM
I agree Debussey, but to be fair, Special Ed has sent me an extensive PM which I will reply to via PM.  He did bring up some valid points in there, some not as valid, some accurate representations of my point of view, some not as accurate.  It was far better than most of the other comments I have been getting though, at least publicly.  PMs are always of a higher quality I find.

Onwards...

I have a lot of PMs and threads to reply to and I also have to do some reviews right now.  I want to get back on track slightly by saying that I tried 185 on my first set today and only managed 21 reps, so I was a little disappointed.  25-30 is what I would have wanted to maintain the A to A+ status I previously held for M3.  Thus, as of right now, I must reduce the grade I am awarding to the stack to a B.  I have not put on any mass though, and that is significant.  But my strength and mood improvements are worth maintaining at least a grade B depending on how the rest of the cycle goes.

I am updating this now:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/higherpowerm3muscleboundreview.html
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Alex23 on May 27, 2008, 12:22:14 AM
I agree Debussey, but to be fair, Special Ed has sent me an extensive PM which I will reply to via PM.  He did bring up some valid points in there, some not as valid, some accurate representations of my point of view, some not as accurate.  It was far better than most of the other comments I have been getting though, at least publicly.  PMs are always of a higher quality I find.

Onwards...

I have a lot of PMs and threads to reply to and I also have to do some reviews right now.  I want to get back on track slightly by saying that I tried 185 on my first set today and only managed 21 reps, so I was a little disappointed.  25-30 is what I would have wanted to maintain the A to A+ status I previously held for M3.  Thus, as of right now, I must reduce the grade I am awarding to the stack to a B.  I have not put on any mass though, and that is significant.  But my strength and mood improvements are worth maintaining at least a grade B depending on how the rest of the cycle goes.

I am updating this now:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/higherpowerm3muscleboundreview.html

Straw man argument.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 27, 2008, 12:32:59 AM
Straw man argument.

LOL!!!!!!!

Humour from Alex23 - one of the biggest dudes on getbig!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Alex23 on May 27, 2008, 12:42:05 AM
LOL!!!!!!!

Humour from Alex23 - one of the biggest dudes on getbig!

I wasn't joking.

Matt, why to you viciously turn around and attack me with other accounts? I thought we were beyond that.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 27, 2008, 01:18:44 AM
I wasn't joking.

Matt, why to you viciously turn around and attack me with other accounts? I thought we were beyond that.

LOL...which accounts do you think are mine?  :-X
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 27, 2008, 02:02:15 PM
I only got 185X21 today:



I hereby reduce the grade for the Higher Power stack to a B.

If I get 25-30 by the end of the stack, I will revert back to an A to A+ grade for the stack, more than likely A at best, and only if I see significant improvements in my lifts, such as the 185X25-30 as I described.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: danielson on May 27, 2008, 02:23:37 PM


Is it possible for a man with a 130 IQ to possess the common sense of a donkey?

Or is it more likely that a donkey learned to cut and paste and take orders from his commandant Woten?

I don't think 130 is very smart tbh. I took this one the other day and got a 119 and I am not going to be curing cancer anytime soon if you know what I mean.  :P

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: candidizzle on May 27, 2008, 02:25:38 PM
I don't think 130 is very smart tbh. I took this one the other day and got a 119 and I am not going to be curing cancer anytime soon if you know what I mean.  :P


i scored a 138 ... and i couldnt pass advanced algebra in high school  ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: danielson on May 27, 2008, 02:27:13 PM
i scored a 138 ... and i couldnt pass advanced algebra in high school  ;D

I think you have to get up into the 150s to be considered really smart.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 27, 2008, 04:36:53 PM
I think you have to get up into the 150s to be considered really smart.


You only scored like 108 or something on the MENSA test (www.iqtest.dk), where MATTCOCK scored 135. He is way ahead of ya dummy ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: danielson on May 27, 2008, 05:47:50 PM

You only scored like 108 or something on the MENSA test (www.iqtest.dk), where MATTCOCK scored 135. He is way ahead of ya dummy ;)

That one is not indicative of your IQ, that one means you are good at puzzles.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: McFarland on May 27, 2008, 07:25:08 PM
Special Ed,

While I have - or perhaps had (in response to your recent attacks) - some degree of respect for you, your attempted pogrom targeted at both myself and my business interests is becoming tiresome; it has revealed you as a rather pathetic, untrustworthy character.

First of all Special Ed, you cannot link to any post of mine that is not based on established fact - certainly nothing that would fail to hold up in court - so please, put a stop to your hammy styled Alan Dershowitz act.

I understand that facts and hard science are not your game, so I will explain my position FOR THE FINAL TIME; any further posts from you will be construed as baiting and ignored from now on, unless you give me some substance.

Most all credible scientists in this area (Pinker, Dawkins, Risch, Harpending et al) believe that intelligence is 80% heritable; Indeed, Pinker even endorses the CHH paper and therefore states that it's a myth that race and intelligence don't exist, that they are driven largely by [80%] genetic factors.

Pinker in a conference at the Institute for Jewish Research covering the CHH hypothesis stated the following:

So there you go Special Ed, take Pinker to court.

This was never about supremacy, it has always been about hard science and truth.

For the slow here: RACE AND INTELLIGENCE EXIST AND THEY ARE GENETIC IN NATURE.

Special Ed, you (as with that imbecile Horton) have graphically demonstrated a) your recourse to nothing other than ad hominem, and b) your inability to read my previous posts - specifically the ones that contained links to elite academics (from Lynn through Dawkins, from Harpending through Pinker) from several different fields (from genetics through psychometric testing).

It makes my cringe to hear you attempting to validate your position here; you clearly know nothing of this subject and are merely being shown up as the parasitic bottom feeding lawyer you are; It's hilarious in the extreme to watch you engage in such antics while simultaneously overlooking the views of James Watson (you do know who he was?)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/fury-at-dna-pioneers-theory-africans-are-less-intelligent-than-westerners-394898.html

The above quote from James Watson - THE WORLD'S FOREMOST MOLECULAR BIOLOGIST.

The intellectual landscape (based on bullshit such as Lewontin's Fallacy) had previously been structured to eradicate controversial hypotheses out a priori (race does not exist, intelligence does not exist, the mind is a blank slate inscribed by parents) yet - as always - truth is winning; and academics of such stature as the above names are no longer bothered about stating such facts.

So there you go Ed, please carry on at your own convenience, the peanut gallery members are waiting.

This will be my final post on this topic in THIS thread.  If anyone wants to continue this discussion with me, take it to the politics board or PM.  The only comments you see of me in this thread from this point forward are going to be about M3 and jerking off the dudes at BB.com through praise.

This post is something else. 
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Bix on May 27, 2008, 08:15:14 PM
I only got 185X21 today:



I hereby reduce the grade for the Higher Power stack to a B.

If I get 25-30 by the end of the stack, I will revert back to an A to A+ grade for the stack, more than likely A at best, and only if I see significant improvements in my lifts, such as the 185X25-30 as I described.

What's with moving your lower body so much while benching?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 28, 2008, 04:48:31 AM
That one is not indicative of your IQ, that one means you are good at puzzles.


Wrong. It is a high quality IQ test.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 28, 2008, 10:47:25 AM
What's with moving your lower body so much while benching?

Good question.  My form sucks as you probably have noticed.  However, to be FAIR to me, (1) my lack of making gains is diet related, not gym related, and (2) even adjusting for shit form, people shouldn't be so harsh on my strength levels.  Not that you were, but other comments on here about me being weak or whatever are kind of silly.  Comments about poor form or physique I can understand, but not poor strength.

UPDATED:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/higherpowerm3muscleboundreview.html

"Day 11: Back"
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Alex23 on May 28, 2008, 11:39:04 PM
That one is not indicative of your IQ, that one means you are good at puzzles.

Hahahah exactly.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 29, 2008, 04:05:43 PM
Hahahah exactly.



Wrong. It is a high quality IQ test.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 29, 2008, 05:17:21 PM
LOL. I see Matt now holding up James Watson to cite. Watson has been shitcanned by/from his own institute for the asinine things he has said regarding race and intelligence, not to mention eugenics. He also provided a sample of his own genes to be sequenced and was said to be none to happy when the results showed that he had some 'guy in the woodpile.' Doesn't sound much like an intelligent man, let alone someone to be cited with unadorned esteem.   ::) 
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: haider on May 29, 2008, 07:35:36 PM
hey Matt, why the fuck is woten posting for you again?

are u ficking kidding me?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 29, 2008, 08:34:58 PM
hey Matt, why the fuck is woten posting for you again?

are u ficking kidding me?

Matt's IQ is so high he cant be bothered posting alone  ::).
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 29, 2008, 10:11:51 PM
LOL. I see Matt now holding up James Watson to cite. Watson has been shitcanned by/from his own institute for the asinine things he has said regarding race and intelligence, not to mention eugenics. He also provided a sample of his own genes to be sequenced and was said to be none to happy when the results showed that he had some 'guy in the woodpile.' Doesn't sound much like an intelligent man, let alone someone to be cited with unadorned esteem.   ::) 

Cool stuff.  I happen to consider Watson to be a foremost expert, but I would be happy to read any of the things you speak of if you would simply cite them for me.

I am always up to reading more on the topic from valid sources, so if you have any, post away.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 30, 2008, 04:28:40 AM
Cool stuff.  I happen to consider Watson to be a foremost expert, but I would be happy to read any of the things you speak of if you would simply cite them for me.

I am always up to reading more on the topic from valid sources, so if you have any, post away.
Oh brother. Are you too lazy to google 'James Watson fired?' Or, are you just being pedantic - God knows, most people will not click on given citations.

James Watson fired:  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/science/25cnd-watson.html   (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/science/25cnd-watson.html)

As for gene sequencing results, the closest I can get you is the wiki entry, although I remember reading about it in The Economist, for which I don't have an on-line subscription : "On December 9, 2007, a Sunday Times article[60] reported a claim by deCODE Genetics that 16% of Watson's DNA is of African origin and 9% is of Asian origin. deCODE's methods were not reported and details of the analysis were not published. According to deCODE's Kari Stefansson, the analysis relied on an error-ridden version of Watson's full genome sequence, and Stefansson "doubts [. . .] whether the 16 percent figure will hold up"[61]" That test cost over $2 millions clams!!!!

Next time, use google: it'll save us both time and trouble you lazy bastard.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 30, 2008, 05:34:27 AM
Oh brother. Are you too lazy to google 'James Watson fired?' Or, are you just being pedantic - God knows, most people will not click on given citations.

James Watson fired:  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/science/25cnd-watson.html   (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/science/25cnd-watson.html)

As for gene sequencing results, the closest I can get you is the wiki entry, although I remember reading about in The Economist, for which I don't have an on-line subscription : "On December 9, 2007, a Sunday Times article[60] reported a claim by deCODE Genetics that 16% of Watson's DNA is of African origin and 9% is of Asian origin. deCODE's methods were not reported and details of the analysis were not published. According to deCODE's Kari Stefansson, the analysis relied on an error-ridden version of Watson's full genome sequence, and Stefansson "doubts [. . .] whether the 16 percent figure will hold up"[61]" That test cost over $2 millions clams!!!!

Next time, use google: it'll save us both time and trouble you lazy bastard.


Incoming pathetic attemmpt from Matt to avoid this and change subject in 1...2....." X made me gain 40lbs but I still weigh 130 soaking wet with my coat on"  ::).
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: chester_bbb on May 30, 2008, 11:25:25 AM
Interestingly, I am not.  To understand why that would be to understand just how closely my mind operates free from emotion.  I constantly try to partition my emotion from logical decision making and to be quite frank, I am pretty consistent at it.

I speak accurately of southern Italians and Britons - for better or for worse.  I can objectively state that I see good things in both cultures but neither are devoid of fault and I acknowledge them honestly also.

mATTc I'll give you $20 for a picture of your sister naked.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on May 30, 2008, 11:27:22 AM
Oh brother. Are you too lazy to google 'James Watson fired?' Or, are you just being pedantic - God knows, most people will not click on given citations.

James Watson fired:  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/science/25cnd-watson.html   (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/science/25cnd-watson.html)

As for gene sequencing results, the closest I can get you is the wiki entry, although I remember reading about it in The Economist, for which I don't have an on-line subscription : "On December 9, 2007, a Sunday Times article[60] reported a claim by deCODE Genetics that 16% of Watson's DNA is of African origin and 9% is of Asian origin. deCODE's methods were not reported and details of the analysis were not published. According to deCODE's Kari Stefansson, the analysis relied on an error-ridden version of Watson's full genome sequence, and Stefansson "doubts [. . .] whether the 16 percent figure will hold up"[61]" That test cost over $2 millions clams!!!!

Next time, use google: it'll save us both time and trouble you lazy bastard.

That actually proves my point.  The minute that they couldn't actually refute Watson with science and evidence, they fired him.  That was politically motivated.

Thank you for the wiki info.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on May 30, 2008, 12:07:47 PM
this thread is a known cure for insomnia!!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 31, 2008, 07:57:30 AM
That actually proves my point.  The minute that they couldn't actually refute Watson with science and evidence, they fired him.  That was politically motivated.

Thank you for the wiki info.


A lot of researchers has had "political problems" due to doing research on race and intelligence or other sensitive areas in the "difference between races". Many of these researchers has been forced to stop their research because of this (often to avoid losing funding and/or getting their careers fucked up due to political shit). That James Watson was fired for those statements are not evidence that his statements were wrong. If people REALLY want to disprove this race/intelligence thing, get some valid research that proves it wrong. So far, nobody has really been able to. That he was fired is just a strong indicator of how unscientific and politically correct all those idiots that tries to wash the race/intelligence data under teh carpet really are.

Nevertheless, the truth is coming out slowly, nobody can stop it. Its just that changes in society often follows "unpopular" scientific discovery after the discover has been made, and after an initial period of "resistence".


Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 31, 2008, 09:27:09 AM
That actually proves my point.  The minute that they couldn't actually refute Watson with science and evidence, they fired him.  That was politically motivated.

Thank you for the wiki info.
Nice spin. We'll gloss over his promotion of eugenics and his ethically and morally repugnant POVs. However, I don't think you can discount politics; I think that was part of it. When you have an institute, which is dependent on public/private funding, it is prudent not to have a loose cannon with paternalistic and 'wacky' ideas helming it. Science, as you like to say should be 'objective' (or as much as it can be), Watson was intent on making it quite subjective.

/you should look up his latest (i think) book. it has to do with avoiding 'boring' people - i shit you not. perhaps some pointers lie in yonder direction.  ;)   

//also, fyi: the economist, issue may 10th-16th has an article on race/intelligence (with a particular focus on the usa) which does not support your biological determinist thesis.  ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: dr.chimps on May 31, 2008, 09:30:08 AM

A lot of researchers has had "political problems" due to doing research on race and intelligence or other sensitive areas in the "difference between races". Many of these researchers has been forced to stop their research because of this (often to avoid losing funding and/or getting their careers fucked up due to political shit). That James Watson was fired for those statements are not evidence that his statements were wrong. If people REALLY want to disprove this race/intelligence thing, get some valid research that proves it wrong. So far, nobody has really been able to. That he was fired is just a strong indicator of how unscientific and politically correct all those idiots that tries to wash the race/intelligence data under teh carpet really are.

Nevertheless, the truth is coming out slowly, nobody can stop it. Its just that changes in society often follows "unpopular" scientific discovery after the discover has been made, and after an initial period of "resistence".
Yeah. Yeah. You've been parroting this noble science thing for a while now. However, you let me know when Rushton et al. stop receiving their funding from creepy eugenics orgs. like The Pioneer Institute and start getting transparent funding, then we'll talk.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on May 31, 2008, 09:51:01 AM
Yeah. Yeah. You've been parroting this noble science thing for a while now. However, you let me know when Rushton et al. stop receiving their funding from creepy eugenics orgs. like The Pioneer Institute and start getting transparent funding, then we'll talk.

We will also talk when you find some hard science showing this race/intelligence stuff to be wrong. ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on June 01, 2008, 12:37:22 PM
As for gene sequencing results, the closest I can get you is the wiki entry, although I remember reading about it in The Economist, for which I don't have an on-line subscription : "On December 9, 2007, a Sunday Times article[60] reported a claim by deCODE Genetics that 16% of Watson's DNA is of African origin and 9% is of Asian origin. deCODE's methods were not reported and details of the analysis were not published. According to deCODE's Kari Stefansson, the analysis relied on an error-ridden version of Watson's full genome sequence, and Stefansson "doubts [. . .] whether the 16 percent figure will hold up"[61]" That test cost over $2 millions clams!!!!

Next time, use google: it'll save us both time and trouble you lazy bastard.

Fine, if you want to resort to rude discourse, I will embarrass you in the same manner I did that imbecile Horton and Special Ed.  If you treat me like an idiot, expect me to do the same to you.

Onwards...

Did you actually read the above before you posted it?

It's nice to see you using race-based genetic science as evidence to support your bullshit claim that race doesn't exist at the biological level, see what you've done there?  Moron.

"We are all the same, but there exists 'African genes' and 'Asian genes' " - really, I couldn't make this up, you thick scumbag.

Are you aware (I doubt it) that the interpreting of the data surrounding Watson's genome analysis has been loaded with errors to the point that ensemble (funded by the Welcome trust) have stated a lack of confidence in the data and urged people not to use it?

The only conceivable reason for deCODE releasing their crap information was that they simply got carried away during a moment wherein they thought they could score points by bringing down the world's foremost biologist; manifest hubris of the finest form no less.

But let's crack on with your other points, so expertly constructed [by you] utilizing your rather deft logic.

If Watson's genetic make up did in fact comprise "16% African genes" it would show up in his very recent family history, to wit:

/you should look up his latest (i think) book. it has to do with avoiding 'boring' people - i shit you not. perhaps some pointers lie in yonder direction.  ;)   

I think it is you, dimwit, that should have perhaps taken your own prescription and "look up" the said tome.

If you had done so, you would have noted that Watson - having been born to a high end European family who had great passion for celebrating their ancestry via photographs and tradition such as the handing down of names - included in the book many pictures of/and information about his family; this material taken from "Avoid Boring People" sits together with other well known information about Watson's family background.

If one takes the time to observe that first - on Watson's maternal side - his family are documented as white; that they are descended from Scottish/Irish with no non-whites to be seen; one has to then concede that for the claims of "16% African genes" to stand, Watson must have on his paternal side a father that is at least 50% non-white and a grandparent of whom is 100% non-white; if no such non-white relative can be found, it stands that you are wrong, that your claims - as is your head - are hollow.

As stated, we can look to Watson's already mentioned book "Avoid Boring People" and other avenues for the evidence (indeed, you really should have done so before fucking with me and thus leaving me no choice but to reveal you for the thick headed person you are.

In the Watson book, there is a photograph of Watson attending the 1967 wedding of his cousin Alice; stood alongside Watson are his father and grandfather - along with Watson's sister - and they are all observably 100% white.

The anti-black socio-political climate of the time is also damning to your claims.

The Watsons were a very successful family in a profoundly anti-black America; Watson's paternal uncle (William Weldon Watson IV) was none other than the head of Yale physics department in 1940; If someone was one third black and head of a Yale department that would have been BIG news.

Watson's father was employed at the Harris Trust Company in Chicago before WWI.  Watson's paternal grandfather was a stockbroker and his paternal grandmother an heiress.

Watson's paternal great-grandfather was a hotel-keeper in ritzy Lake Geneva, WI and married a banker's daughter.

His paternal great-great-grandfather was a friend and prominent supporter of Abraham Lincoln.

If there was even a hint of "Negro in the woodpile" (much less the 20%+ that you claim) none of the above would have occurred.

The entire family were high class, and nothing other than white, both observably and indeed in full documented history.

But yeah, the Watson family might have overlooked an African sat at the family Christmas dinner?  And yes you might have a point??  You silly bastard.

Oh and stop referencing Venter; he has changed his position once from claiming [in 2001] we are all 99.9% the same to the point where he [in 2007] says we are 99% the same; yes, in a mere 5 years he has reduced his claims by nigh on 1%, have you any idea how big a deal that is biologically?  No, no you don't, hence your shitstained hubris, a very slippery slope indeed.

It makes my cringe to hear you attempting to validate your position with references to Venter the "genome god" yet simultaneously overlooking the views of James Watson without whom Venter's work wouldn't even exist.

Chimps, you are a dullard, aptly named and ignorant in the extreme.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on June 01, 2008, 11:21:00 PM
MELTDOWN!  :o ;D :-X :-[ ;) :D :-* :-[
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: wes on June 02, 2008, 05:11:50 AM
MELTDOWN!  :o ;D :-X :-[ ;) :D :-* :-[
BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!  :)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on June 02, 2008, 08:13:22 AM
BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!  :)

He actually thinks someone is taking him seriously enough to read such a long post? I hardly read his 2 lines posts LOL.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: michael arvilla on June 02, 2008, 08:16:26 AM
Matt ZzzzZzzZZzZZzZZzZZzzZ!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on June 02, 2008, 01:39:29 PM
Matt ZzzzZzzZZzZZzZZzZZzzZ!


MattCock does have some good points that nobody has been able to dispute yet.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on June 02, 2008, 02:59:31 PM

MattCock does have some good points that nobody has been able to dispute yet.

DebuZZZzzzZZZzzz :D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on June 02, 2008, 03:45:10 PM

MattCock does have some good points that nobody has been able to dispute yet.

Are you saying I should post on a board where the average member knows how to read?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on June 02, 2008, 04:43:34 PM
you cannot argue moral and ethics when it comes to science

if you integrate that into your argument than you automatically lose



Agree with him or not----Matt has made some solid points which no one has yet to dispute with actual evidence----most have been reduced to name calling and moral crusading

although I would be interested to hear more from Dr CHimps in regard to arguing Matt's points 
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on June 02, 2008, 07:05:18 PM
DebuZZZzzzZZZzzz :D


That was kind of a sweet little cuddle name for Debussey  :-*
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on June 02, 2008, 11:38:01 PM

That was kind of a sweet little cuddle name for Debussey  :-*


More like implying that your say the same things over and over and bore us to death thus ZZzzzZZZzz :D

you cannot argue moral and ethics when it comes to science

if you integrate that into your argument than you automatically lose



Agree with him or not----Matt has made some solid points which no one has yet to dispute with actual evidence----most have been reduced to name calling and moral crusading

although I would be interested to hear more from Dr CHimps in regard to arguing Matt's points 

Bullshit, he kept asking someone to debate him but when I asked him about his Jewish conspiracy theory he backed down like a little bitch, notice he acts like that regarding anyone and anything he posts.
All he wants is the attention and nothing more, do you have any other logical reason for him to post those shameful videos of himself?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: LatsMcGee on June 03, 2008, 12:05:47 AM
Matt C will you cuddle with a jew if it gets too cold in your igloo?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on June 03, 2008, 01:26:39 AM
Matt C will you cuddle with a jew if it gets too cold in your igloo?

Yeah, as long as she is a cute female.

Hey, why is IFBBwannaB so mean to me?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on June 03, 2008, 02:32:35 AM
Yeah, as long as she is a cute female.

Hey, why is IFBBwannaB so mean to me?


Once again avoiding and trying to shift the subject.
You claim you want a debate but in reality you just want your shit read by people, I guess your immense IQ can't figure that one out  ::)

So DebuzZZzzz...you start seeing the pattern or what? And please stop swinging off nuts...especially skinny, retarded people nuts...its pitiful.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Nordic Beast on June 03, 2008, 04:14:54 AM

Once again avoiding and trying to shift the subject.
You claim you want a debate but in reality you just want your shit read by people, I guess your immense IQ can't figure that one out  ::)

So DebuzZZzzz...you start seeing the pattern or what? And please stop swinging off nuts...especially skinny, retarded people nuts...its pitiful.
you are the childish one---you say you want to debate him yet cant spend 30 seconds reading his lengthy post above :-\ ???

so why would he take you seriously??
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on June 03, 2008, 06:17:47 AM
you are the childish one---you say you want to debate him yet cant spend 30 seconds reading his lengthy post above :-\ ???

so why would he take you seriously??

Because after reading the first lines I see that once again he ignores the subject and does his regular shit.... ::)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on June 03, 2008, 08:44:23 AM

More like implying that your say the same things over and over and bore us to death thus ZZzzzZZZzz :D


Stupid reply.

All you have done is implying that your experience in research enables you to discredit all the research MattCock and Debussey has been refering to by default. Further on, you have not presented a single argument (besides your "credibility) that counter arguments the research that has been presented (don't blow yourself with teh economist)

Debussey knows many people that has been doing these kinds of studies, and although Debussey has not done the studies itself, Debussey can surely state that what you claim about studies and all that stuff is not good enough at all. This is based on statements from several researchers that Debussey knows, people that has been doing research studies in the same fields for 20 - 30 years, and their credibility and experience surely outweighs yours by leaps and bounds. Your statements further contradicts most of the points found in the literature about the scientific process, unless you are one of those anti pragmatic mofos that has their head in their ass.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on June 03, 2008, 09:54:08 AM
Stupid reply.

All you have done is implying that your experience in research enables you to discredit all the research MattCock and Debussey has been refering to by default. Further on, you have not presented a single argument (besides your "credibility) that counter arguments the research that has been presented (don't blow yourself with teh economist)

Debussey knows many people that has been doing these kinds of studies, and although Debussey has not done the studies itself, Debussey can surely state that what you claim about studies and all that stuff is not good enough at all. This is based on statements from several researchers that Debussey knows, people that has been doing research studies in the same fields for 20 - 30 years, and their credibility and experience surely outweighs yours by leaps and bounds. Your statements further contradicts most of the points found in the literature about the scientific process, unless you are one of those anti pragmatic mofos that has their head in their ass.

The research I conducted wasn't a solo gig and included people with 20-30 years also, I'm actually passing along their message. And in the field I'm in the effects that I speak of are allot smaller but in the fields such as determining the IQ of certain populations every litlle change you do can make a drastic effect and allot of times no many will even know it has been done thus no damage to your credibility.

You want a relevant example, take IEEE SPECTRUM magazine issue of April 2008, there is a big article there about the testing of organic PV cells. That article talks about how a reputable engineer in the PV community complains about the lack of regulation regarding published papers and results, and thats empirical science...you talk about a very subjective science that can be easily manipulated.

I discredit Matt sources, the methods of testing, the extraction of conclusions and other relevant issues.


The funny thing is that most of you want to be thought of as "the master race" because you have no personal achivments and want an achivment that can't be taken from you.

By using the data from your research I can actually pat myself on the back just because I'm a part of certain groups but I find that as a very weak character, so I'm actually fighting "against my own benefit".

You all make me laugh at how you want to hide in the race shelter.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on June 03, 2008, 01:35:23 PM
The research I conducted wasn't a solo gig and included people with 20-30 years also, I'm actually passing along their message. And in the field I'm in the effects that I speak of are allot smaller but in the fields such as determining the IQ of certain populations every litlle change you do can make a drastic effect and allot of times no many will even know it has been done thus no damage to your credibility.

You want a relevant example, take IEEE SPECTRUM magazine issue of April 2008, there is a big article there about the testing of organic PV cells. That article talks about how a reputable engineer in the PV community complains about the lack of regulation regarding published papers and results, and thats empirical science...you talk about a very subjective science that can be easily manipulated.

I discredit Matt sources, the methods of testing, the extraction of conclusions and other relevant issues.


The funny thing is that most of you want to be thought of as "the master race" because you have no personal achivments and want an achivment that can't be taken from you.

By using the data from your research I can actually pat myself on the back just because I'm a part of certain groups but I find that as a very weak character, so I'm actually fighting "against my own benefit".

You all make me laugh at how you want to hide in the race shelter.


At least a better post, yet, still no counterarguments, just speculation.

And you claiming "hidden racism" = a personal opinion, nothing more. Debussey lives in it's parents basement and prays to Gary Busey. That creates superiority in itself.

Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on June 03, 2008, 01:48:08 PM

At least a better post, yet, still no counterarguments, just speculation.

And you claiming "hidden racism" = a personal opinion, nothing more. Debussey lives in it's parents basement and prays to Gary Busey. That creates superiority in itself.



You see, you follow in your icon foot steps, you want to debate someone but you always back down when it starts.
Like I said, you have no actual knowledge on how a study is actually is conducted and what are the powers behind it.

I refuse to even acknowledge studies that were made/financed/published/etc by known and self proclaim white supremacy groups

Now to another matter at hand...where are all your facts about Jewish global media domination? You two understand that by saying that you are proving you are wrong? The internet is the strongest media in the world and this site is owned by a Jewish/Israeli man, each post you two post regarding that theory just disproves itself....can you see the immense irony or you need a 260IQ for that?
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on June 03, 2008, 02:07:53 PM
You see, you follow in your icon foot steps, you want to debate someone but you always back down when it starts.
Like I said, you have no actual knowledge on how a study is actually is conducted and what are the powers behind it.

I refuse to even acknowledge studies that were made/financed/published/etc by known and self proclaim white supremacy groups

Now to another matter at hand...where are all your facts about Jewish global media domination? You two understand that by saying that you are proving you are wrong? The internet is the strongest media in the world and this site is owned by a Jewish/Israeli man, each post you two post regarding that theory just disproves itself....can you see the immense irony or you need a 260IQ for that?

Hey, back up a bit, Debussey never SUPPORTED MattCocks jew statements, Debussey only stated that they were not racistic in nature as Debussey has seen them. The science stuff Debussey spoke about was only regarding the race/intelligence stuff (this is the part of MattCocks arguments Debussey supports=, but Debussey did not clearify that directly, sorry about that.) The Jewish media domination stuff, MattCock is on his own about. Debussey only said that they were not racistic in nature.

And you are severely wrong about "not having any knowledge about how a study is being done". Debussey does have a very small amount of practical knowledge in actual studies (Debussey has been somewhat involved in qualitative studies, including the gathering of qualitative empiri and some qualitative analysis), and some theoretical knowledge about how studies are being done (quantitative and qualitative studies in the social sciences). Claiming that Debussey knows a great deal = completely wrong, but Debussey does have a small degree of familiarity with the theoretical and practical aspects of scientific research, along with several aquaintences that has tons of experience.

And Debussey has not backed down from your debate. The race/IQ studies are up there along with Debusseys arguments (arguments Debussey has written tens of times now), waiting for you to directly address them. They have been waiting for days actually ;)
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on June 04, 2008, 02:57:04 PM
As it stands now, I am debating where M3 deserves to be ranked.  It is A, B, or C.  Not sure yet.  Sometimes I feel it is A+, other days, C or D.  Perhaps a B or C is appropriate for an overall grade (6-7 out of 10).  It is pretty decent though, but I've used better supplements before.

I will respond to other posts in this thread a little later.

I would like members of the board to read this review I just posted on my website (written by someone on my review team) and let me know if they think it is fair and balanced:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/universalgainfast3100review2.html
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: The Master on June 04, 2008, 04:17:08 PM
As it stands now, I am debating where M3 deserves to be ranked.  It is A, B, or C.  Not sure yet.  Sometimes I feel it is A+, other days, C or D.  Perhaps a B or C is appropriate for an overall grade (6-7 out of 10).  It is pretty decent though, but I've used better supplements before.

I will respond to other posts in this thread a little later.

I would like members of the board to read this review I just posted on my website (written by someone on my review team) and let me know if they think it is fair and balanced:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/universalgainfast3100review2.html

Give the grade: Matt Cock
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt C on June 06, 2008, 02:16:40 PM
Give the grade: Matt Cock

Tell me if this review is fair and balanced:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/scifitextrastrengthhmbreview.html
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt on February 24, 2021, 10:07:23 PM
Mike's impressing me here.  Matt you're simply a fucking moron if you think you can be successful in any business venture promoting hate.  "Hate" in this context being essentially any doctrination holding that there are people "better" than others based on genetically-predetermined factors.  You might not be saying "better" per se, but it's hard to posit that one group is smarter than another without feelings getting hurt. Bodybuilding.com would never align themselves with you tied to your current belief system and you are a fool for failing to realize this.  Smartest dumb mother fucker I know and epic fucking fail on the 405 x 3 then six because anybody that knows anything about having deadlifted 500+ plus knows that's easily how much strength can vary from deadlift workout to workout regardless of any nutrient/supplement/steroid intake in the meantime.

Yeah, except I invested in Bitcoin at $180, and Bodybuilding.com is getting eaten alive by Amazon Sports Nutrition.

So who won that one, genius?

Lastly...do you think I give TWO FUCKING SHITS who is "offended" by my stating FACTS? So according to YOU, it's better to promote false narratives that are COMPLETE LIES, which - now that the dust has settled - have made Western Civilization worse off in every possible way?

Jeff, you twat. I say that while still respecting you, from one father to the next.

It seems like what you are saying is that overt hatred of other races is negative. I agree. But we live in a society, where a WHITE MAN BREATHING is considered racist.

Now why the FUCK would I submit to such ridiculous self-hating horseshit? And if you think I give two fucking shits about making myself unemployable over this - you are wrong. Bitcoin allows me to make money online while living off the grid of mainstream economic society. I'm divorced from the mainstream economy, and 100% financially autonomous. My rent and YouTube ad revenue is nice, but do you think I would lose one SECOND of sleep if I lost both of those income streams tomorrow? Hell no, I wouldn't!

So yeah, American Blacks commit more murder than all other races in the USA COMBINED, and I don't believe for a SECOND that the Jewish narrative of Germany and Hitler during WWII is anything but a major exaggeration, and  vile anti-German hatred, spread by Jewish-controlled Hollywood, and Jewish-controlled Big Tech. But no bias or agenda there...right Jeff?  ::)

See - you THINK I'm screwing my options by being so outspoken, but I am an articulate speaker, and people respect me MORE for speaking truth to power. Will they admit it? Hell no, they won't! Why not? Because people like YOU will lose your career if you DARE demonstrate the balls I have. And you know it. You know that YOU can't speak your mind, but I can. So you threaten me about not getting a job I WILL NEVER NEED, because you HATE the fact that you aren't "allowed" to say what you want.

Whereas me? I SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT. And not a man alive can do a thing to stop me. And you KNOW IT.  ;D

But that's what's so fucking cool about me, Jeff - I'm not scared of Jewish and social pressure regarding STATING FACTS on "controversal" issues. Meanwhile, YOU wear a face mask while not even sick because the government tells you to, and you won't even publicly admit the kindergarten knowledge that "Boys have a penis, and girls have a vagina" - BECAUSE YOU'RE FUCKING SCARED OF THE EMPLOYMENT AND SOCIAL REPERCUSSIONS OF DOING SO.

I have the UTMOST RESPECT for Ron and OneMoreRep, and they are my favourite Jews. But do you I give two fucking shits about "offending them" by making a comment putting Hitler in context?

And how dare anyone insult Ron and OMR for suggesting these men aren't intelligent enough to discuss WWII from a non-Jewish lens.

I get that Israel has done bad things, but I can still empathize with the common Israeli Jew, constantly facing Palestinian terrorism. You'd be surprised how much people respect you when you have the balls to be open-minded on controversial topics.

As for "not offending people"...tell me, Jeff: why are you telling me as a White man, I need to submit and toe the line when it comes to not offending a non-White, in light of this recent anti-White disaster:



By the way, Jeff:

I am a strong, proud, non-self-hating White man who does NOT approve of mass replacement levels of immigration of non-White people into the West, due to the high crime as well as the strain on our social services it creates.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD I SUPPORT MY OWN RACE BEING REPLACED? DUMB SHIT.

So no, Jeff - I DO NOT apologize for being "racist" by stating FACTS. I REFUSE to appease narcissistic social justice activists AT ALL, BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS DEMAND MORE WHITE SELF-ABASEMENT.

I believe in natural hierarchies, and I assure you - White men represent BY FAR the highest global group on the human hierarchy.

So why THE FUCK should we appease a bunch of whining, petulant children of other demographics, who hold 5% of our power?

FUCK THAT. I am a White man. I submit to NO ONE.

As for being employed - HAHAHAHAHA...I have enough money for the next 200 years.

Play the tiniest violin for me, would you? :)

Social justice politically correct jagoffs can suck my cock.

I'm not submitting to any of this bullshit.

End of!
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt on February 24, 2021, 11:00:35 PM
Oh brother. Are you too lazy to google 'James Watson fired?' Or, are you just being pedantic - God knows, most people will not click on given citations.

James Watson fired:  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/science/25cnd-watson.html   (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/science/25cnd-watson.html)

Yes, I'm well aware of the fact that the left is incapable of debating using logic and empirical evidence, so that they resort to socially ostracizing academic heretics and firing them.

That proves my point - that you have no rebuttal to anything Watson said about racial disparities in DNA - so thank you for proving my point.

After all, what would the man who won the Nobel Prize for DISCOVERING/ELUCIDATING DNA POSSIBLY KNOW ABOUT GENETICS/DNA...right???

 ::)

But of course they just fired him instead. Did you REALLY THINK any of them would have the ability to debate him? LOL, leftists.
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 25, 2021, 01:37:33 PM
It's been 12 years man.

Let it go. ;D
Title: Re: Matt C's review of the Higher Power stack by BB.com!
Post by: Matt on April 05, 2021, 05:01:56 AM
It's been 12 years man.

Let it go. ;D

Good point.

I struggle badly with letting things go. I hold grudges forever.