Author Topic: What's your guess on who trained Tsarnaev brothers? and what will happen?  (Read 7533 times)

blacken700

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what about you, any guesses to how this plays out?

this is what the FBI said,The FBI has admitted interviewing Tamerlan two years ago, at the request of the Russian government, but said it wound up its inquiries after interviews with Tamerlan and other family members "did not find any terrorism activity, domestic or foreign".

i believe this,do i believe the FBI are part of some conspiracy,hell no

Hugo Chavez

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"Who do you think trained.." 
I know a lot of people have a CT phobia.  I'm not asking for you to come out with a CT lol...  Just wondering if people had any guesses.  It could be just a list of:

1.  they could have been connected to:
2. might turn out they were trained by ___ who is and if then we would etc...

There's nothing wrong with me having a guess on it too.  Again I'm not concluding anything or stating anything as fact.

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this is what the FBI said,The FBI has admitted interviewing Tamerlan two years ago, at the request of the Russian government, but said it wound up its inquiries after interviews with Tamerlan and other family members "did not find any terrorism activity, domestic or foreign".

i believe this,do i believe the FBI are part of some conspiracy,hell no

How about FBI turn the guy into a CI?    hhhmmmmm?

Hugo Chavez

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this is what the FBI said,The FBI has admitted interviewing Tamerlan two years ago, at the request of the Russian government, but said it wound up its inquiries after interviews with Tamerlan and other family members "did not find any terrorism activity, domestic or foreign".

i believe this,do i believe the FBI are part of some conspiracy,hell no
I didn't ask you if you believed that.  That was my guess speculation not yours. 

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I know a lot of people have a CT phobia.  I'm not asking for you to come out with a CT lol...  Just wondering if people had any guesses.  It could be just a list of:

1.  they could have been connected to:
2. might turn out they were trained by ___ who is and if then we would etc...

There's nothing wrong with me having a guess on it too.  Again I'm not concluding anything or stating anything as fact.

Agnostic007

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You think they learned all this shit from youtube? 

I don't have one iota of an idea where they learned it from as I type this. Do you?

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My guess is that in the end the older brother is going to be found to have been a CI that got out of control and there is going to be a whole of lot incompetence in the FBI exposed

Hugo Chavez

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Hugo, there is no harm, just not much of a point. About as helpful or useful as asking an 8 yr old his opinion on the 3rd law of Thermodynamics     
oh please, the same can be said for 95% of the threads here.  We still talk about shit.  It's not going to hurt anything either.

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I don't have one iota of an idea where they learned it from as I type this. Do you?

Well from what we know for a fact already - it is safe to conclude that this guy was on the FBI radar, warned to us by Russia, radicilized by a local cleric, obviously had good proficiency in bomb making, and has shown no means whatsoever of support or income for years.  

Yeah - nothing wierd here.  Move along sheep  

Agnostic007

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oh please, the same can be said for 95% of the threads here.  We still talk about shit.  It's not going to hurt anything either.

Yeah, you're right. Just because I don't typically like to do that kind of stuff doesn't mean other people don't enjoy it. I stand corrected..

Hugo Chavez

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My guess is that in the end the older brother is going to be found to have been a CI that got out of control and there is going to be a whole of lot incompetence in the FBI exposed
It's hard to fathom people would be upset speculating that the FBI might not be on the level here after what we just saw them get away with in the fast and furious scandal.

blacken700

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You think they learned all this shit from youtube? 
 

from uk paper,don't know how reliable

Boston Marathon Bombings: FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers

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April 21, 2013 11:16 AM GMT



 
Dzhokhar, left, and Tamerlan Tsarnaev captured on CCTV shortly before the explosions at the Boston Marathon.
 
The FBI is hunting a 12-man terrorist "sleeper cell" linked to the brothers suspected of carrying out the Boston bombings.


The Bureau believes that Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev received training in bomb-making before they carried out the attack, which killed three people.
 
Tamerlan, 26, was killed in a shoot-out with police in the early hours of Friday. His brother Dzhokhar is in intensive care at a Boston hospital, and remains unable to speak due to gunshot wounds to the neck.
 
It emerged that a man and two women were arrested 60 miles from Boston in the port of New Bedford in the hours before Dzhokhar's capture. The three are believed to be of college age.

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A source close to the investigation said: "We have no doubt the brothers were not acting alone. The devices used to detonate the two bombs were highly sophisticated and not the kind of thing people learn from Google.
 
"They were too advanced. Someone gave the brothers the skills and it is now our job to find out just who they were. Agents think the sleeper cell has up to a dozen members and has been waiting several years for their day to come."
 
More than 1,000 FBI agents have been assigned to track down the cell. A specialist team of CIA and FBI interrogators is on hand at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Centre in Boston, waiting to question Dzhokhar.
 
The FBI has admitted interviewing Tamerlan two years ago, at the request of the Russian government, but said it wound up its inquiries after interviews with Tamerlan and other family members "did not find any terrorism activity, domestic or foreign".
 
The FBI now says the pair were part of a terrorist cell, though they were not under surveillance at the time of the bombings, US Government officials said.
 
The brothers were carrying six bombs, a handgun and a rifle at the time of the shoot-out in which Tamerlan was killed. Three devices - thought to be pipe bombs - were detonated.
 
Investigators are working to establish whether the brothers had help in making the bombs, which were contained in pressure cookers and packed with nails and ball bearings.
 
Their mother Zubeidat, speaking from her home in Russia, claimed the boys had been framed by the FBI, saying the bureau had been "controlling" Tamerlan for the past five years. Their father Anzor has also said he believed his sons had been "set up" by the FBI.
 
Tamerlan, a talented boxer, was said by neighbours to have become increasingly radical in his Islamic beliefs in recent years.
 
The FBI are retracing his movements during a six-month trip he made to the Russia Caucusus last year, including a visit to Chechnya, during which his extremism is said to have caused arguments with family members.
 
"It's a key thread for investigators," said Kevin Brock, a senior FBI counter-terrorism official.
 
Tamerlan's American wife Katherine Russell, 24, with whom he had a three-year-old daughter Zahara, is said to have converted to Islam when she married him, and taken to wearing the veil. She was taken in for questioning by FBI agents on Friday.
 
Tamerlan's Russian-language YouTube page contains numerous links to extremist Islamic sites, including one that features an hour-long speech by the radical cleric Feiz Mohammed, along with other videos labelled "Terrorists" and "Islam".
 
Dzhokhar, a scholarship student with ambitions to become a brain surgeon, was described by friends as more "mild-mannered" and "easy going" than his brother. Popular with fellow students, he was said to enjoy smoking marijuana, and was seen by friends "looking relaxed" at a college party two days after the bombings, shortly before police released photographs of the two suspects.
 
Dzhokhar is said to have run over his brother as he made his getaway in a stolen SUV while Tamerlan lay handcuffed on the ground with fatal gunshot wounds late on Thursday.
 
Investigators have confirmed they will invoke public safety powers to interrogate him without reading him his "Miranda" rights to remain silent and have a lawyer present.
 
Authorities hope he will not invoke his right to silence, and will talk to them about any other terrorist threats, and the location of possible further explosives.
 
Prosecutors are considering appropriate charges, with a federal charge of using a weapon of mass destruction to kill people carrying a possible death sentence, though there is no death penalty in the state of Massachusetts.
 
Three people died in the attacks on the marathon and another 176 were injured. A policeman at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology was shot dead during the subsequent manhunt.


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Yeah, you're right. Just because I don't typically like to do that kind of stuff doesn't mean other people don't enjoy it. I stand corrected..
thanks ;D

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My guess is that in the end the older brother is going to be found to have been a CI that got out of control and there is going to be a whole of lot incompetence in the FBI exposed

This is a great example of why I don't like to play this game, you just end up looking stupid in the end..  ;)

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I'm not going to feel stupid if I'm wrong.  Hell even if I were right it's highly doubtful it would be uncovered lol... No way you see this shit on CNN if it's true.  Look at all the dirt on them in fast and furious and all those people involved still have their jobs.

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I'm not going to feel stupid if I'm wrong.  Hell even if I were right it's highly doubtful it would be uncovered lol... No way you see this shit on CNN if it's true.  Look at all the dirt on them in fast and furious and all those people involved still have their jobs.

Remember - in the govt - the more you fuck up - the higher you rise to the top

Agnostic007

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I'm not going to feel stupid if I'm wrong.  Hell even if I were right it's highly doubtful it would be uncovered lol... No way you see this shit on CNN if it's true.  Look at all the dirt on them in fast and furious and all those people involved still have their jobs.

except the agent that brought it to light.. he was teminated.

Hugo Chavez

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I probably should have just kept my guess simple:

1. brothers found to have ties they were trained by Iran
2. war with Iran
3. Russia looks other way for us doing the same in what will no doubt be a bloodbath in and around Chechnya.
4. China's bluff with NK fizzles.

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except the agent that brought it to light.. he was teminated.
lol, figures...

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What the govt and media want for everyone to believe:

1.  Two losers who were not fitting in well in the USA
2.  younger brother was just an obama voting stoner in awe of his brother
3.  Older brother was going nowhere in life and just fell prey to a local radical mosque
4.  Family are all crack pots but the uncle
5.  FBI is blameless since they could not unearth anything in 2011
6.  Nothing at all strange w obama having emergency visit w Saudis
7.  Nothing at all strange w michell obama visiting w saudi person of interest w ties to al queada in the hospital 
8.  Despite thousands of cops and a man hunt the likes we have never seem, No 2 is found in a boat dying of wounds in a boat in backyard barely 200 yards away



LOL - move along sheep - go watch American Idol 

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What the govt and media want for everyone to believe:

1.  Two losers who were not fitting in well in the USA
2. &guy brother was just an obama voting stoner in awe of his brother
3.  Older brother was going nowhere in life and just fell prey to a local radical mosque
4.  Family are all crack pots but the uncle
5.  FBI is blameless since they could not unearth anything in 2011
6.  Nothing at all strange w obama having emergency visit w Saudis
7.  Nothing at all strange w michell obama visiting w saudi person of interest w ties to al queada in the hospital  
8.  Despite thousands of cops and a man hunt the likes we have never seem, No 2 is found in a boat dying of wounds in a boat in backyard barely 200 yards away




LOL - move along sheep - go watch American Idol  

They searched a 20 block radius. Have you got any support for the 200 yrds away statement?

And I don't think the "government" wants or cares what you believe at the moment. They are in the process of gathering information and facts . Your post is a little off the mark in my opinion

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Did they use a single bloodhound in the search?  They had his sent.  If not, why the hell not?

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Did they use a single bloodhound in the search?  They had his sent.  If not, why the hell not?

I am not claming a CT - but the more i think about this - sp many problems with this story 

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Did they use a single bloodhound in the search?  They had his sent.  If not, why the hell not?

We don't have blood hounds to use. We do have german and belgian shepherds trained to scout, some can track but a variety of issues come into play. how many people tainted the area prior to the dogs arrival. Is it a heavily populated area where there is a lot of human scent etc etc. I'm no tracker myself but I've followed blood drops from a crime scene to where the bad guy was hiding as well as found victims that way. In each case they were bleeding enough to where there were droplets every 5 or 6 ft and it was time consuming.. but I wonder if that was an option..