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That one thing is this Gov't should NEVER be relied upon to fix ANYTHING. Gov't needs to be as small as possible. Collect the least amount of taxes, and get the hell out of the way of its tax payers. The Gov't's roll is to protect us from international and home grown threats, collect taxes to cover such tasks. The gov't should provide other necessary services; social, economical, and foreign.
So, instead we have a socialist president, embarking on his socialist agenda. All the while oil spews, people in the south are still reeling from Katrina's wrath, and Greece burns...
Remember the time and date in November to make a difference.
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Good post!
The tea party might be full of ignorant jackasses, but they're on the right track!
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It teaches us that most left wing enviros and celebrities are full of fucking shit.
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So the Q becomes - should the govt regulate these companies more, or less?
With MORe regulation, the BP spill WOULD have been avoided.
Unfortunately, many repubs brag about their intention to de-regulate industries. Personally, I'm okay with the FDA having standards for food, oil industry having standards for safety, etc.
Mccain claimed to be "The DE-REGUALTOR" in 2008 like it was a good thing. Was it?
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So the Q becomes - should the govt regulate these companies more, or less?
With MORe regulation, the BP spill WOULD have been avoided.
Unfortunately, many repubs brag about their intention to de-regulate industries. Personally, I'm okay with the FDA having standards for food, oil industry having standards for safety, etc.
Mccain claimed to be "The DE-REGUALTOR" in 2008 like it was a good thing. Was it?
You are so clueless it hurts.
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So the Q becomes - should the govt regulate these companies more, or less?
With MORe regulation, the BP spill WOULD have been avoided.
Unfortunately, many repubs brag about their intention to de-regulate industries. Personally, I'm okay with the FDA having standards for food, oil industry having standards for safety, etc.
Mccain claimed to be "The DE-REGUALTOR" in 2008 like it was a good thing. Was it?
I think that you get gobv't out of the sack with these companies. You make it illegal to collect campaign contributuins from companies to their fav. candidates. If you make such decisions like not including the correct valving on the well heads as it looks like BP decided to do, that would have shut this sucker off some 51 days ago... then those who made this dicision pay up dearly, and go to jail. Nuff said there. To regulate ind. is a given yes. But regulate is a mile from restrict. If you restrict, then you reduce jobs, and earnings. Thus you have the makings of socialism.
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I think that you get gobv't out of the sack with these companies. You make it illegal to collect campaign contributuins from companies to their fav. candidates. If you make such decisions like not including the correct valving on the well heads as it looks like BP decided to do, that would have shut this sucker off some 51 days ago... then those who made this dicision pay up dearly, and go to jail. Nuff said there. To regulate ind. is a given yes. But regulate is a mile from restrict. If you restrict, then you reduce jobs, and earnings. Thus you have the makings of socialism.
240 is again ignoring what happened with the MMS and the permits and sign offs and corruption, AS USUAL.
We have the regulations and enforcement, the issue again is ineptness of the govt and its not doing its job and following laws that are already on the book.
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It teaches us that most left wing enviros and celebrities are full of fucking shit.
Plus.. where is Hollywood and their self-serving telethon to help those people down south? I guess unless you are from a foriegn country Hollywood's got nothing for ya except shitty movie acting.
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So the Q becomes - should the govt regulate these companies more, or less?
With MORe regulation, the BP spill WOULD have been avoided.
Unfortunately, many repubs brag about their intention to de-regulate industries. Personally, I'm okay with the FDA having standards for food, oil industry having standards for safety, etc.
Mccain claimed to be "The DE-REGUALTOR" in 2008 like it was a good thing. Was it?
As usual 100% wrong!!This happened because Enviro kooks have taken over our government and forced oil companies to drill 65 miles from the shore and 5 miles down.If we would be drilling in Anwar and in shallow water this wouldnt have happened.
Now,please tell me one thing the government has ever regulated that got better from that regulation?We have drugs that could come to market and help people but because of over regulation dont and people die.I cant think of a thing they regulate well.
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alot of the deregulation was started under the clinton admin 240
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Plus.. where is Hollywood and their self-serving telethon to help those people down south? I guess unless you are from a foriegn country Hollywood's got nothing for ya except shitty movie acting.
I think Brad Pitt & Angelina Jolie as well as many others would justifiably take exception to this comment.
To this day they are still working with Katrina victims, building & rebuilding homes and helping people get their lives back. They put their money, and their time, blood, sweat & tears into New Orleans and are still there.
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alot of the deregulation was started under the clinton admin 240
Bingo!!
Democrats are useless when it comes to business and natural resources.
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When Arlington cant even propperly burry the dead,that sums up the government.
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When Arlington cant even propperly burry the dead,that sums up the government.
Burry the dead? They can't manage Cash for Clunkers...
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I think Brad Pitt & Angelina Jolie as well as many others would justifiably take exception to this comment.
To this day they are still working with Katrina victims, building & rebuilding homes and helping people get their lives back. They put their money, and their time, blood, sweat & tears into New Orleans and are still there.
Ok. I take some back. I'll even include Sean Penn (gulp... did I say that??) AND a few others. But my point still stands.... where's the telethon? Where's Elton singing with his goofy glasses? Ir or is that Lady GaGa...?
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Ok. I take some back. I'll even include Sean Penn (gulp... did I say that??) AND a few others. But my point still stands.... where's the telethon? Where's Elton singing with his goofy glasses? Ir or is that Lady GaGa...?
Where is Kanye & Spike claiming Obama hates southerners?
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Ok. I take some back. I'll even include Sean Penn (gulp... did I say that??) AND a few others.
thanks for at least acknowledging that. :)
But my point still stands.... where's the telethon? Where's Elton singing with his goofy glasses? Ir or is that Lady GaGa...?
Don't you think it's a little premature for a telethon? Only after all the damage is assessed and if and when BP declares bankruptcy, or breaks up to limited it's liability, resulting in shortfalls, then they can start raising money to provide relief for those people and industries impacted. You have to admit, this disaster is not the same as an earthquake of a katrina type flood, or the devastation of a 911.
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Wait a minute. So the solution is private enterprise doing the right thing at the governments behest? Isn't that what this admin has been trying? It's been letting the 'experts' of big business fumble and bumble it's way through a catastrophic event.
Katrina and this have taught us that yes our government can be inept. But so is big business, so lets strike that balance and it's not with 'small' government nor with 'big' government but instead GOOD government.
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Wait a minute. So the solution is private enterprise doing the right thing at the governments behest? Isn't that what this admin has been trying? It's been letting the 'experts' of big business fumble and bumble it's way through a catastrophic event.
Katrina and this have taught us that yes our government can be inept. But so is big business, so lets strike that balance and it's not with 'small' government nor with 'big' government but instead GOOD government.
Sorry KC. You're making too much sense for most of the haters here.
They need someone thing to scream about. An oulet to let off all that hostility that built up during the Bush years ;D
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Less government would be wonderul. Unfortunatley, we lost the ability to control government several years ago. Oh, there is an illusion that if we vote in this party, or that party, things will change but they never do. The politicians use the parties like a smoke screen to keep us disoriented, brainwashed, and with a sense of power we can make a change.. For YEARS we have all agreed Congress taking golfing trips to fantastic tropical locations paid for by lobbyist is wrong... but they still do it. For YEARS we have cried out that the IRS tax code is so overly complicated that 10 seperate teams of tax accountants would come up with 10 different owed amounts.. yet it remains unchanged. .. Sadly, Im ...... wait...someone at the door....thats odd......
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Sorry KC. You're making too much sense for most of the haters here.
They need someone thing to scream about. An oulet to let off all that hostility that built up during the Bush years ;D
The idea that this is somehow related to Katrina is kind of funny, geographically yes, but in this instance the fault isn't on the government for it's lack of response per say, it's on the BP oil company not being able to fix the leak caused by their well. The republican mantra is business trumps government. Here we see that isn't the case. Business has shown it's inability to deal with a disaster at one of its wells. Should the government have stepped in sooner? I believe so, but then we would have these same posters flaming Obama for not letting business (the know-er and solver of all) do it's job. So really it's lose/lose either way. Personally they should have stepped in within 7 days of BP being unable to do anything, then sent BP the bill. That didn't happen, they relied on business to solve this and one of the 5 biggest oil companies hasn't as yet. That to me says we need better government intervention, not less.
As for Katrina that was a humanitarian disaster where their is no 'who should do the job?' question. The government had a responsibility to ensure the safety and care of it's citizens who stayed behind. They failed that.
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That one thing is this Gov't should NEVER be relied upon to fix ANYTHING. Gov't needs to be as small as possible. Collect the least amount of taxes, and get the hell out of the way of its tax payers. The Gov't's roll is to protect us from international and home grown threats, collect taxes to cover such tasks. The gov't should provide other necessary services; social, economical, and foreign.
So, instead we have a socialist president, embarking on his socialist agenda. All the while oil spews, people in the south are still reeling from Katrina's wrath, and Greece burns...
Remember the time and date in November to make a difference.
Agree.
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The one thing america was/is being taught is KARMA IS A BITCH!!!!
When Katrina destroyed New Orleans the american government did nothing to help the people and the city...as a matter of fact the US government exacerbated the situation. Now the american government is truly HELPLESS against another disaster that will cost it so many times more than it would have had to pay to help the people of New Orleans get their life, homes and city back together that it is not even funny....
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The idea that this is somehow related to Katrina is kind of funny, geographically yes, but in this instance the fault isn't on the government for it's lack of response per say, it's on the BP oil company not being able to fix the leak caused by their well. The republican mantra is business trumps government. Here we see that isn't the case. Business has shown it's inability to deal with a disaster at one of its wells. Should the government have stepped in sooner? I believe so, but then we would have these same posters flaming Obama for not letting business (the know-er and solver of all) do it's job. So really it's lose/lose either way. Personally they should have stepped in within 7 days of BP being unable to do anything, then sent BP the bill. That didn't happen, they relied on business to solve this and one of the 5 biggest oil companies hasn't as yet. That to me says we need better government intervention, not less.
As for Katrina that was a humanitarian disaster where their is no 'who should do the job?' question. The government had a responsibility to ensure the safety and care of it's citizens who stayed behind. They failed that.
wrong, the govt signed off on the safety of this platform and there are numerous instances of the MMS being corrupt and inept. The issue os the govt not doing its job, not that we
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Yet more proof we need GOOD government because without it the inmates run the asylum.
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Yet more evidence that we need GOOD government not necessarily small or large. This shows what happens when the inmates run the asylum.