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Title: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 19, 2021, 02:15:50 PM
The city of Portland announced Wednesday it plans to more aggressively clean, downsize or remove homeless encampments starting Monday. After a year city official say that the passive approach “has been ineffective.” The city will immediately post an eviction notice when certain health and safety concerns are present, which is pretty much the case with the majority of the encampments.

Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Earl1972 on May 19, 2021, 06:49:21 PM
so where will they go?

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Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 19, 2021, 06:51:25 PM
so where will they go?

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I’m sure Prime will house a few of these individuals👍👍
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 19, 2021, 07:35:43 PM
To a liberal, “more aggressively” means you switch from doing sweet fuck all about the problem to slightly more than sweet fuck all about the problem.

Then you have one of the cockdockers on CNN crow about your success.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Tapeworm on May 19, 2021, 07:41:30 PM
Moving on groups of down-on-their-luck men huddled around a potato fire.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Hypertrophy on May 19, 2021, 07:56:27 PM
Moving on groups of down-on-their-luck men huddled around a potato fire.


Oh bullshit- the bulk of homeless people are either their willingly or because of drug/mental health issues.  Go gaslight another board.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 19, 2021, 08:01:20 PM
To a liberal, “more aggressively” means you switch from doing sweet fuck all about the problem to slightly more than sweet fuck all about the problem.

Then you have one of the cockdockers on CNN crow about your success.

Haha!

Damn if that ain't the truth.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 19, 2021, 08:38:34 PM
so where will they go?

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West Linn , suburb of Portland !.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Dave D on May 19, 2021, 08:47:17 PM
This thread has me questioning Portlands support of Black Lives Matter. Apparently they don’t if the blacks are homeless.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Tapeworm on May 19, 2021, 09:03:13 PM

Oh bullshit- the bulk of homeless people are either their willingly or because of drug/mental health issues.  Go gaslight another board.

I don't do that anymore. The warnings are true. The flame really can go up inside.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 20, 2021, 04:05:57 AM
The place that is mostly peaceful, and mostly glory-hole filled (litereally).

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/endless-riots-turn-portland-into-city-of-mayhem/ar-BB1gUYpc?ocid=msedgntp

Endless riots turn Portland into city of 'mayhem'

Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Sissysquats on May 20, 2021, 04:21:25 AM
so where will they go?

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 LA área, Venice beach.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: gib on May 20, 2021, 04:38:02 AM
so where will they go?

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San Fran or Skid Row LA,
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: R.A.M. on May 20, 2021, 04:41:47 AM
I’m sure Prime will house a few of these individuals👍👍

Only the dapper young studs are allowed!!
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 20, 2021, 07:03:06 AM
Only the dapper young studs are allowed!!

Yes, Prime will personally bathe these young men, daily.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 20, 2021, 09:15:16 AM
West Linn , suburb of Portland !.
Right to Prime's house.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 20, 2021, 09:30:05 AM
All they’ll do is pick up and move from one place to another. Case in point....a few years ago there was a huge homeless encampment at the wash by Angel Stadium in Anaheim. That got broken up and good percentage moved to the beach...HB more specifically. Now we’re having huge homeless problem, thefts, assaults, trash and where I’m at, brings down the housing values. 

Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: ThisisOverload on May 20, 2021, 10:18:31 AM
All they’ll do is pick up and move from one place to another. Case in point....a few years ago there was a huge homeless encampment at the wash by Angel Stadium in Anaheim. That got broken up and good percentage moved to the beach...HB more specifically. Now we’re having huge homeless problem, thefts, assaults, trash and where I’m at, brings down the housing values.

They did this same thing in Houston 4-5 years ago. Implemented "strict" new rules about homeless encampments. The mayor was acting tough and needed new supporters, so they came up with a plan to "fix" the homeless problem.

"One time" the Police went to the highest areas impacted by the homeless and made them all leave, cleaned up the mess and promised to enforce the new rules. Even installed some chain-link fences to keep them out.

A week later the homeless were back and the ones who actually left just infested another part of town a few blocks away.

Since then they haven't enforced shit, it's just a way for liberal leaders to act tough and pretend they give a shit, but they don't.

Doing this is like catching all the cockroaches in a nasty house and just moving them to another room. Nothing improves.

Let's follow up on this in 6 months, i bet a $1 all they do is chase a few groups away and then stop.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Grape Ape on May 20, 2021, 10:22:45 AM

Oh bullshit- the bulk of homeless people are either their willingly or because of drug/mental health issues.  Go gaslight another board.

Epic misread of a post

Brutal lack of poster context

Monster broken sarcasm meter
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 20, 2021, 10:25:43 AM
All they’ll do is pick up and move from one place to another. Case in point....a few years ago there was a huge homeless encampment at the wash by Angel Stadium in Anaheim. That got broken up and good percentage moved to the beach...HB more specifically. Now we’re having huge homeless problem, thefts, assaults, trash and where I’m at, brings down the housing values.

Yes, and then they let thousands of COVID infected illegals across the borders setting them up in sanctuary cities, while pissing on our own homeless Vets.
Dem-A-Tardz.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Rambone on May 20, 2021, 10:33:18 AM
so where will they go?

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Soggyville, USA
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 20, 2021, 11:08:56 AM
Interesting how Covid managed to spare so many homeless.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: joswift on May 20, 2021, 11:11:13 AM
I cant recall seeing a black homeless person in the UK
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Fortress on May 20, 2021, 11:26:29 AM
Round ‘em up ... and “re-locate” them (dispose of the bodies).

Problem solved.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Dave D on May 20, 2021, 12:41:58 PM
Interesting how Covid managed to spare so many homeless.

No this is not true.

The deadly pandemic eradicated the homeless problem. These poor people had zero health care, unsanitary living conditions and couldn't social distance so they never stood a chance.

Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Matt on May 20, 2021, 12:45:04 PM
This thread has me questioning Portlands support of Black Lives Matter. Apparently they don’t if the blacks are homeless.

That's right.  And that is a disproportionately high number of them.  Hmf.

Typical NIMBY liberal - "Not In My Backyard!"
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 20, 2021, 12:47:57 PM
Interesting how Covid managed to spare so many homeless.


And the Amish.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 20, 2021, 12:52:28 PM
I’m sure Prime will house a few of these individuals👍👍

Don't think so.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: DanM on May 20, 2021, 12:53:05 PM
Round ‘em up ... and “re-locate” them (dispose of the bodies).

Problem solved.

Most of them suffer from a mixture of mental health issues and severe childhood trauma and use drugs as a coping mechanism to numb their miserable existence. A coping mechanism which if not maintained regularly makes them physically ill.

Not to say they aren't a plague on whatever city they congregate in mass but its not always as black and white as these people simply choosing to live this way.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 20, 2021, 12:54:44 PM
Moving on groups of down-on-their-luck men huddled around a potato fire.

Don't kid yourself, there are women and children in these 'encampments' too. There's even a few dogs and cats.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Matt on May 20, 2021, 01:04:04 PM
Most of them suffer from a mixture of mental health issues and severe childhood trauma and use drugs as a coping mechanism to numb their miserable existence. A coping mechanism which if not maintained regularly makes them physically ill.

Not to say they aren't a plague on whatever city they congregate in mass but its not always as black and white as these people simply choosing to live this way.

Even if it is true that most homeless leaches suffered from childhood trauma, it is NOT TRUE that most people who suffered childhood trauma become human scum as adults.

Something like 99% of people who abuse children were abused as children, but something like 99% of people who were abused as children, DO NOT grow up to abuse their children.

Typical leftist bullshit illogical line of reasoning.

There are more households with spare rooms owned by Democrats to house every homeless man, woman, and child in the USA/West. Why don't these pathetic pro-homeless, scumbag sympathizers house these homeless people, if they think homeless people are so amazing and wonderful, and can do no wrong ever?

Ah - because leftists merely signal their virtues while doing absolutely nothing in support of the causes they claim to care about, all the while importing vastly MORE or the same poor individuals into the USA, which does nothing but to strain the very social services infrastructure that American [and Canadian] leftists claim to champion and claim to want to EXPAND in scope.

Once these leftists are forced to live around the system they promoted, they will immediately be actively against what they claim to actively support.

Primemuscle is a fantastic example, as demonstrated right here in this thread.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 20, 2021, 01:11:23 PM
Even if it is true that most homeless leaches suffered from childhood trauma, it is NOT TRUE that most people who suffered childhood trauma become human scum as adults.

Something like 99% of people who abuse children were abused as children, but something like 99% of people who were abused as children, DO NOT grow up to abuse their children.

Typical leftist bullshit illogical line of reasoning.

There are more households with spare rooms owned by Democrats to house every homeless man, woman, and child in the USA/West. Why don't these pathetic pro-homeless, scumbag sympathizers house these homeless people, if they think homeless people are so amazing and wonderful, and can do no wrong ever?

Ah - because leftists merely signal their virtues while doing absolutely nothing in support of the causes they claim to care about, all the while importing vastly MORE or the same poor individuals into the USA, which does nothing but to strain the very social services infrastructure that American [and Canadian] leftists claim to champion and claim to want to EXPAND in scope.

Once these leftists are forced to live around the system they promoted, they will immediately be actively against what they claim to actively support.

Primemuscle is a fantastic example, as demonstrated right here in this thread.


Cliff Notes:

Dems like to talk about spending the money somebody else has mostly around election time.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 20, 2021, 01:13:42 PM
West Linn , suburb of Portland !.

I never see any signs of their camps. West Linn is loaded with parks and green spaces, There's a long green space trail encircling the neighborhood around my house. Mary S. Young park is a large state park on the Willamette. Anyway, there is an abundance of places where people could set up their tents.....but they won't go unnoticed.

Although I could find no specific city ordinance against vagrancy, probably because State laws prohibit evicting them if they are on public property. Awhile back someone tried to set up their camp under the Abernathy bridge (essentially under where the freeway crosses the Willamette river. ODOT gave them the boot before they could enjoy their first night's sleep.

Homeless people are also broke people who beg for food and need to be where there are handouts and other services. West Linn has none of those things probably because we have no real downtown area, just a few small strip malls and Main street in Historic Willamette which is probably a half mile long and looks like an old west town at Disneyland.

(https://www.aqualityappraisal.com/xSites/Appraisers/GaryFKristensenCertifiedResidentialAppraiser/Content/UploadedFiles/West%20Linn%20Downtown%20Willamette.PNG)


http://www.historicwillamette.com/
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 20, 2021, 01:16:43 PM
I’m sure Prime will house a few of these individuals👍👍

He already is.

Four generations of his white trash family live with him now.

A house full of welfare leeches and government benefit thieves.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: DanM on May 20, 2021, 01:22:33 PM
Even if it is true that most homeless leaches suffered from childhood trauma, it is NOT TRUE that most people who suffered childhood trauma become human scum as adults.

Something like 99% of people who abuse children were abused as children, but something like 99% of people who were abused as children, DO NOT grow up to abuse their children.

Typical leftist bullshit illogical line of reasoning.

There are more households with spare rooms owned by Democrats to house every homeless man, woman, and child in the USA/West. Why don't these pathetic pro-homeless, scumbag sympathizers house these homeless people, if they think homeless people are so amazing and wonderful, and can do no wrong ever?

Ah - because leftists merely signal their virtues while doing absolutely nothing in support of the causes they claim to care about, all the while importing vastly MORE or the same poor individuals into the USA, which does nothing but to strain the very social services infrastructure that American [and Canadian] leftists claim to champion and claim to want to EXPAND in scope.

Once these leftists are forced to live around the system they promoted, they will immediately be actively against what they claim to actively support.

Primemuscle is a fantastic example, as demonstrated right here in this thread.


The Neurochemistry of most of these people's brains is completely fucked. Their nervous system and psychology is broken. Their ability to rationalize, show empathy and thrive in society is stunted, often times to not fault of their own.

That is not to excuse the completely heinous things many do to support their habits but ascribing them more volition than they really have is a route where hate easily creeps in.

Hopefully modern science shedding light on this gives people a bit more compassion.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Matt on May 20, 2021, 01:29:28 PM

Cliff Notes:

Dems like to talk about spending the money somebody else has mostly around election time.

Democrat politicians - for sure!  They are more blatantly hypocritical being public eye champions of the poor.

I find that all liberal/Democrats will moan on and on about how hard-pressed the poor are, but they don't do anything about it in their personal lives, such as allow the homeless to live with them, or even volunteer at a soup kitchen.  I honestly think people who champion the homeless as oppressed victims have never even spent a day in the presence of one - IMO, that is the ONLY way that people can maintain delusional leftist views.  With age [and with mass immigration] it will be impossible for people to live away from the leftist fantasy land that they claim to want - at which point, they will cease from being leftists, but at which point, they won't have nearly as much power to do anything to change it as they currently do.

In the meantime, they vote for the parties that bring in the greatest number of poor people through mass immigration, which does nothing more than suffocate our lavish Western social welfare systems, and virtually guarantee their collapse in the future.  Oh, the irony.  ::)  It's just about virtue-signalling for leftists, be it leftist politicians, or day-to-day leftist citizens.  The Liberals in Canada and Democrats in the USA are more blatantly/obviously guilty of being filthy hypocrites on this matter, because they have the most political power to actually change anything, but the average leftist citizen is still a complete hypocrite, praising the poor while doing absolutely nothing about it.

Check out this video, hot off the press from Tim Pool, as of 28 minutes ago [Primemuscle/Oregon-related]:

Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Henda on May 20, 2021, 01:46:05 PM
Tramps are usually shitbags who have to sleep in the gutter as they have normally burned every bridge possible and nobody left to give them a hand. As much as I despise anyone being in my house for an extended period if any of my mates were on hard times I’d let them stay as long as needed provided they were doing everything in their power to get back on their feet, normally these tramps have been given the same chance at some point and they just lay about drinking all day never tying to work to change their circumstances or steal to feed their stinking habits and do this every where they go so end up sleeping in their own filth like they deserve
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Dave D on May 20, 2021, 01:54:50 PM
Don't kid yourself, there are women and children in these 'encampments' too. There's even a few dogs and cats.

What do the dogs and cats have to do with homeless people? There are rats, mice and various other wildlife. Why are you over looking those lives?
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 20, 2021, 02:02:13 PM

The Neurochemistry of most of these people's brains is completely fucked. Their nervous system and psychology is broken. Their ability to rationalize, show empathy and thrive in society is stunted, often times to not fault of their own.

That is not to excuse the completely heinous things many do to support their habits but ascribing them more volition than they really have is a route where hate easily creeps in.

Hopefully modern science shedding light on this gives people a bit more compassion.

What pisses me off is when I read in the Oregonian that Oregon and specifically, Portland got big sums of federal money to build, buy or subsidize housing for the poor and years later it has barely been used.

It is fine to not want people squatting on the sidewalks of Portland, they create a lot of problems, including sanitation issues and violence, but evicting or moving them to another location doesn't solve the problems is just relocates them. Given a choice to live on the sidewalks of downtown Portland or in the Streets of some of Portland's neighborhoods or in 2 person pods, 'tiny houses' or subsidized apartments, most would choose to get off the street. Given the  choice between living on the street or spending the night inside with a whole lot of other people you don't know sleeping on cots, many chose the street.

The options below are currently available in Portland. There is just not enough of them to solve homelessness.

(https://ktvz.b-cdn.net/2020/12/Multnomah-County-sleeping-pods-homeless-KPTV-1230.jpg)

(https://res.cloudinary.com/sagacity/image/upload/c_crop,h_667,w_1000,x_0,y_0/c_scale,w_1080/v1414175754/caravan-ext-004_ilclh3.jpg)

(https://images1.apartments.com/i2/Pi8ZXu_yhgXAfbS-BWrs8qRkhUMqU0w0-YzFtt2uwzc/117/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 20, 2021, 02:13:06 PM
What do the dogs and cats have to do with homeless people? There are rats, mice and various other wildlife. Why are you over looking those lives?

Your observation is just plain dumb.

The point is some homeless people have pets....pets are domesticated animals not wildlife. One could argue that they have no business having a pet when they cannot even take care of themselves and you'd have a valid argument. Still there are circumstances when a pet or specially a service animal is understandable or even necessary.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Matt on May 20, 2021, 02:16:29 PM
This stupid asshole expressly rejected Donald Trump's offer of federal support to end the riots last year:



I get the notion of freedom of assembly in terms of protest...but what the FUCK does BLM want?  What laws do they want to change?  Black males are 18.5 times as likely to shoot White male police officers than White male police officers are to shoot Black males.

I was in the USA one day, and listening to NPR on the radio.  They were interviewing some Hispanic guy who was pulled over by the police and said he was terrified - worried that the cop that came up to him would be White.  I can't remember if the cop was right, but what the FUCK kind of bullshit is that?!  ???  Blacks and Hispanics commit 70% of all murders in the USA, and 93% of Black murders are committed by other Black men!  The majority of ALL murder victims are killed by people of the same race as they are!  So to say that ANY interracial homicide is a big thing [represents a majority of murders] is completely untrue!  And where interracial murders and other interracial crimes of violence or any other sort do exist, White people make up the overwhelming VICTIMS - and not JUST in percentage or per-capita terms, but in ABSOLUTE NUMBERS.

Out of a million interracial crimes of violence or property crimes [theft/home invasion, and other robberies] that occur in the USA each year, 900,000 comprise White victims!

So how the FUCK is it even possible for the average person to think the OPPOSITE OF REALITY IS THE TRUTH?

And the answer to that is: through a nonstop brainwashing campaigning, where every single Black male shot by police is cherry-picked and propped up as an example of being somehow average.  If Black males being shot by White police officers were in ANY WAY the norm, the [Jewish] mainstream media wouldn't need to literally prop up EVERY SINGLE FUCKING EXAMPLE to prove that.

That's cherry-picking - nothing more!

Blacks are, simply from a statistical vantage point, the race with the highest rates of criminality in the USA than any other - and in fact, commit more crimes of violence than ALL OTHER RACES IN THE USA COMBINED.  Oh gee, might that be why they get shot by the police more than any other race combined?  And even THAT isn't true - while Blacks ARE shot by police more than any other race on a per-capita level combined, they are only shot about half as often by police when you adjust for criminal status: i.e., police officers are about twice as likely to shoot a White male with a gun than a Black male with a gun.  So there is obviously some hesitation on behalf of police officers to shoot Black men - even if they brandish a gun at them - because most police officers know that CNN will be covering the story 24/7 for weeks if not months, if they shoot a Black man, even IF they have every legal right to do so.

Look at the case of Rayshard Brooks in Georgia - the guy was drunk off his tree and punched one cop in the face, and FIRED A TASER at another officer, eventually resulting in the cop killing Brooks.  This was all on camera - and the cop got charged with murder!!!

So now we're shoving so much White Guilt and gaslighting down the throats of White cops, that they are going to be afraid of defending themselves even when LETHAL FORCE IS USED AGAINST THEM.  THIS IS INSANE!

Police are ALREADY hesitant to shoot Black men, as evidenced by the fact that White men get shot more often once you control for variables such as the possession of guns.  Mathematically, we should expect that if Black men commit 56% of violence involving guns, that they would be shot 56% of the time.  While Blacks ARE shot by police at a per-capita rate higher than any other race [DUH - THIS SHOULD BE EXPECTED GIVEN THE HIGHLY DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF GUN VIOLENCE THEY ENGAGE IN], they are still shot less than we would mathematically expect them to be shot based on how often White males in the USA are shot by police, given the per-instance frequency that police are involved with gun violence involving White males versus the per-instance frequency involving Black males.

I'm not here to say that I want more Black males to be shot or anything - any time that the police can prevent someone from being shot is possibly a good thing [EXCEPT IF THE OFFICERS LIFE IS DIRECTLY ON THE LINE - FOR GOD'S SAKE, DON'T LET POLITICALLY CORRECT BRAINWASHING EVER STOP YOU FROM DEFENDING YOURSELF - better tried by 12 than carried by six!].

What I am saying is that based on the number of encounters that armed Black men have with the police, we would expect more Black men to be shot compared to the number of times White men are shot in similar encounters.

Put another way:

The statistics indicate that there is some form of "Black discount" in terms of being shot by police, that results in fewer Black men from being shot by police than White men are, and I think that's because any police officer - of any race - is aware that if they end up killing a Black man that they shoot, that the end result would be that CNN and other liberal news outlets will talk about it 24/7 for God knows how long...and this makes them hesitate a little, and only use lethal force in extreme scenarios where their lives are more likely to be on the line [as is the case of Rayshard Brooks, where he literally shot a taser at the police officer before the police officer shot him, and only narrowly missed shooting the taser in his face].

Comments like this used to proliferate all over the internet, especially in news articles, but news articles starting closing comments' sections around 2016, and the internet is now more censored than ever, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 20, 2021, 02:27:35 PM
He already is.

Four generations of his white trash family live with him now.

A house full of welfare leeches and government benefit thieves.


Gold medal 4 Walter  ;D
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Dave D on May 20, 2021, 02:32:07 PM
Your observation is just plain dumb.

The point is some homeless people have pets....pets are domesticated animals not wildlife. One could argue that they have no business having a pet when they cannot even take care of themselves and you'd have a valid argument. Still there are circumstances when a pet or specially a service animal is understandable or even necessary.

I’m confused by your point. Are you more concerned about the living condition of the pets than the actual people?

Most of these homeless people have severe mental and emotional issues that have gone unaddressed. To your point some of these people have children (and women, as you said). From your post you put pets on par with human lives. I’m just curious why you’re not concerned with the wildlife?
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 20, 2021, 02:32:25 PM


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Portland ANTIFA would love those cabins  ;D
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Fortress on May 20, 2021, 02:49:16 PM
Most of them suffer from a mixture of mental health issues and severe childhood trauma and use drugs as a coping mechanism to numb their miserable existence. A coping mechanism which if not maintained regularly makes them physically ill.

Not to say they aren't a plague on whatever city they congregate in mass but its not always as black and white as these people simply choosing to live this way.

I’m well aware, more so than most, of the mental health and substance-abuse issues plaguing an overwhelming majority of the homeless.

Doesn’t alter my feelings on the matter.

My take on a solution is only black.

Round ‘em up ... and “re-locate” them.

The weakness of our species is our general inability to cut losses and move on.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 20, 2021, 03:28:22 PM
I’m confused by your point. Are you more concerned about the living condition of the pets than the actual people?

Most of these homeless people have severe mental and emotional issues that have gone unaddressed. To your point some of these people have children (and women, as you said). From your post you put pets on par with human lives. I’m just curious why you’re not concerned with the wildlife?

On the off chance you aren't just 'pulling my leg' here, I'll attempt a reply.

There is really nothing to be confused about. I am not more concerned about the pets than homeless people. It is just a fact that some homeless people have pets and service animals. Pets are a consideration when someone is in need of a place to live. Many landlords do not allow pets, although I believe they must allow service animals under the law.

While a lot of folks have mental and emotional issues, some more severe than others. Not all people with these issues are homeless and not all homeless people have these conditions. Since you seem somewhat knowledgeable about mental and emotional health, you surely know there are service dogs for people with a variety of psychological and medical problems, including PTSD Service Dogs - Psychiatric Service Dogs and service dogs for people with a host of physical disabilities.

Your question regarding wildlife cannot possibly be serious. Given that the subject is homeless people and housing needs, my only concern about the 'wildlife' you mentioned is that they are known to spread diseases and their habitat is generally anywhere they can find food. Homeless camps no doubt have a rodent problem because there tends to be a lot of garbage including food waste.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 20, 2021, 03:35:30 PM

Portland ANTIFA would love those cabins  ;D

Do members of ANTIFA tend to be homeless?
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 20, 2021, 03:38:41 PM
I’m well aware, more so than most, of the mental health and substance-abuse issues plaguing an overwhelming majority of the homeless.

Doesn’t alter my feelings on the matter.

My take on a solution is only black.

Round ‘em up ... and “re-locate” them.

The weakness of our species is our general inability to cut losses and move on.


Seems like a plan. Where would you suggest they be relocated to?
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Dave D on May 20, 2021, 05:57:23 PM
On the off chance you aren't just 'pulling my leg' here, I'll attempt a reply.

There is really nothing to be confused about. I am not more concerned about the pets than homeless people. It is just a fact that some homeless people have pets and service animals. Pets are a consideration when someone is in need of a place to live. Many landlords do not allow pets, although I believe they must allow service animals under the law.

While a lot of folks have mental and emotional issues, some more severe than others. Not all people with these issues are homeless and not all homeless people have these conditions. Since you seem somewhat knowledgeable about mental and emotional health, you surely know there are service dogs for people with a variety of psychological and medical problems, including PTSD Service Dogs - Psychiatric Service Dogs and service dogs for people with a host of physical disabilities.

Your question regarding wildlife cannot possibly be serious. Given that the subject is homeless people and housing needs, my only concern about the 'wildlife' you mentioned is that they are known to spread diseases and their habitat is generally anywhere they can find food. Homeless camps no doubt have a rodent problem because there tends to be a lot of garbage including food waste.

Prime you brought up pets living in homeless camps, now you’re talking about service animals. One of the steps to get a service animal is to have a written recommendation from a health care provider.  People with health care providers aren’t ending up in homeless encampments (or if they are it’s a minimal amount).

Again you pointed out pets living in these homeless areas, along with women and children, why? Did you think people were unaware of this? Why do homeless pets matter to you but wildlife doesn’t? What life do you value?
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: JustPlaneJane on May 20, 2021, 06:05:50 PM
so where will they go?

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Nowhere, they will ignore the Eviction Notices.

Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Fortress on May 20, 2021, 06:24:36 PM

Seems like a plan. Where would you suggest they be relocated to?

Keep up or go find yet another cock to suck.

“Re-locate”

(Dispose of the bodies.)

I wish you’d be “re-located”, you soggy turdbake.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 20, 2021, 07:05:57 PM
Nowhere, they will ignore the Eviction Notices.

Good point. And when they do ignore the notice, sometimes the 'authorities show up, throw them out and pack up the remaining garbage and take it to the dump. A few weeks or months later, this drama is rerun like a very bad B-movie.

Here is yet another example of idiocy, the Portland Red House fiasco, wherein, longtime residents and former deed holders who defaulted on a mortgage refinance (which is a whole other story), were foreclosed on and the property sold at auction. A couple of years later, the winning bidder, a developer is the loser because the 'squatters', refuse to leave. On December 8, 2020 sheriffs show up to evict the illegal residents and are faced with an angry mob of sympathizers. So, what happens next? The sheriffs depart, I guess fearing for their lives. Tick tock, tick tock, 5 months later and nothing has changed. In fact, squatter sympathizers and others with nothing better to do with their time, have commandeered the neighboring vacant lot. Party time most weekends, much to the dismay of the neighbors.

I wish there was an ending to this story, but such is not the case. At least not yet. The squatters claim it is is their sovereign right to retain possession of the property since one of them is a Native American.

There is much more to this story which I did not include. If you are interested here's one link of many. Someday, this will be the movie of the week.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2021/02/guy-in-uneasy-limbo-after-tense-standoff.html
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Andy Griffin on May 20, 2021, 07:17:55 PM
Portland getting what it deserves.  Wheeler can go fuck himself, as can anyone who voted for him.  Without exception.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: JustPlaneJane on May 21, 2021, 09:35:24 AM
Good point. And when they do ignore the notice, sometimes the 'authorities show up, throw them out and pack up the remaining garbage and take it to the dump. A few weeks or months later, this drama is rerun like a very bad B-movie.

Here is yet another example of idiocy, the Portland Red House fiasco, wherein, longtime residents and former deed holders who defaulted on a mortgage refinance (which is a whole other story), were foreclosed on and the property sold at auction. A couple of years later, the winning bidder, a developer is the loser because the 'squatters', refuse to leave. On December 8, 2020 sheriffs show up to evict the illegal residents and are faced with an angry mob of sympathizers. So, what happens next? The sheriffs depart, I guess fearing for their lives. Tick tock, tick tock, 5 months later and nothing has changed. In fact, squatter sympathizers and others with nothing better to do with their time, have commandeered the neighboring vacant lot. Party time most weekends, much to the dismay of the neighbors.

I wish there was an ending to this story, but such is not the case. At least not yet. The squatters claim it is is their sovereign right to retain possession of the property since one of them is a Native American.

There is much more to this story which I did not include. If you are interested here's one link of many. Someday, this will be the movie of the week.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2021/02/guy-in-uneasy-limbo-after-tense-standoff.html

“Sometimes the authorities show up...”

See anything wrong with that sentence ?

We are all familiar with the Red House fiasco. The real fact of the matter is, you wanted this, you support this, you voted for this, and now you have to live with the ramifications of a failed liberal ideology.

I feel for you because you are on a fixed income and obviously too brainwashed to see that you are your own worst enemy.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: liberty on May 21, 2021, 10:33:45 AM
This Getbigger probably helped   :D
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Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 21, 2021, 12:17:14 PM
“Sometimes the authorities show up...”

See anything wrong with that sentence ?

We are all familiar with the Red House fiasco. The real fact of the matter is, you wanted this, you support this, you voted for this, and now you have to live with the ramifications of a failed liberal ideology.

I feel for you because you are on a fixed income and obviously too brainwashed to see that you are your own worst enemy.

If you were the Mayor of Portland, how would you handle this mess?

Interesting aside. The Kinneys (former owners and current squatters) raised at least $315,000 to supposedly buy back the house through a GoFundMe campaign.

The Kinney's currently reside in another house 2 miles away which they purchased in 1966 and still own. That being the case, who are the actual squatters at the Red House on Mississippi?

Thanks for feeling for me. My retirement income is not (technically) fixed in as much as I get annual COLAs on everything except the IRA's which have earnings. SSI has an annual COLA, although it does not keep pace with inflation as it was intended to do when it was enacted in 1973. Being old and healthy, my fixed and recurring expenses are very low. If I splurge on anything, it is my home and travel, mainly to visit family in Germany.   
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 21, 2021, 01:16:35 PM
If you were the Mayor of Portland, how would you handle this mess?

Interesting aside. The Kinneys (former owners and current squatters) raised at least $315,000 to supposedly buy back the house through a GoFundMe campaign.

The Kinney's currently reside in another house 2 miles away which they purchased in 1966 and still own. That being the case, who are the actual squatters at the Red House on Mississippi?

Thanks for feeling for me. My retirement income is not (technically) fixed in as much as I get annual COLAs on everything except the IRA's which have earnings. SSI has an annual COLA, although it does not keep pace with inflation as it was intended to do when it was enacted in 1973. Being old and healthy, my fixed and recurring expenses are very low. If I splurge on anything, it is my home and travel, mainly to visit family in Germany.

There’s a reason for the longevity of the expression, “An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.”

As it stands now, the best option is mental institutions.

Liberals have a habit of creating impossible situations then saying, “Well, what’s your idea?”
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: tommywishbone on May 21, 2021, 01:22:49 PM
"I saw the enemy... and it was me."  -Idiot

Every citizen of Portland got exactly what they asked for.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: JustPlaneJane on May 21, 2021, 01:27:12 PM
If you were the Mayor of Portland, how would you handle this mess?

Interesting aside. The Kinneys (former owners and current squatters) raised at least $315,000 to supposedly buy back the house through a GoFundMe campaign.

The Kinney's currently reside in another house 2 miles away which they purchased in 1966 and still own. That being the case, who are the actual squatters at the Red House on Mississippi?

Thanks for feeling for me. My retirement income is not (technically) fixed in as much as I get annual COLAs on everything except the IRA's which have earnings. SSI has an annual COLA, although it does not keep pace with inflation as it was intended to do when it was enacted in 1973. Being old and healthy, my fixed and recurring expenses are very low. If I splurge on anything, it is my home and travel, mainly to visit family in Germany.

I don’t care.

You are an idiot.

You and the other idiots in Portland are getting exactly what you deserve.

And not one penny of federal funds should be used to bail you out of the mess you’ve voted yourself into.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 21, 2021, 01:36:54 PM
LOL

Prime gets a three pronged owning😂😂
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 21, 2021, 01:51:28 PM
Do members of ANTIFA tend to be homeless?


Ask them !. They rule Portland, don't they !.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 21, 2021, 01:53:08 PM
Portland getting what it deserves.  Wheeler can go fuck himself, as can anyone who voted for him.  Without exception.


7 Oregon counties vote to leave ..................
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 21, 2021, 01:57:30 PM
I don’t care.

You are an idiot.

You and the other idiots in Portland are getting exactly what you deserve.

And not one penny of federal funds should be used to bail you out of the mess you’ve voted yourself into.

ANTIFA now runs a whore house in Portland  !?.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: falco on May 21, 2021, 02:09:59 PM
so where will they go?

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Mexico?
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: JustPlaneJane on May 21, 2021, 02:21:50 PM
LOL

Prime gets a three pronged owning😂😂

It’s like the concepts of the law, and enforcement of the law, are foreign to him.

I can’t tell if he is just a follower who can’t form an idea without Google, or if he is so senile he doesn’t realize his life is one big non-sequitur ?
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Hypertrophy on May 21, 2021, 02:27:59 PM
It’s like the concepts of the law, and enforcement of the law, are foreign to him.

I can’t tell if he is just a follower who can’t form an idea without Google, or if he is so senile he doesn’t realize his life is one big non-sequitur ?


Both
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 21, 2021, 02:29:43 PM
It’s like the concepts of the law, and enforcement of the law, are foreign to him.

I can’t tell if he is just a follower who can’t form an idea without Google, or if he is so senile he doesn’t realize his life is one big non-sequitur ?


Before Christmas 2019 he was planning to kill  himself ,  what a sicko !.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 21, 2021, 02:31:35 PM
There’s a reason for the longevity of the expression, “An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.”

As it stands now, the best option is mental institutions.

Liberals have a habit of creating impossible situations then saying, “Well, what’s your idea?”

Mental institutions are appropriate if a person is sick enough to be in one. Like prisons, they aren't hotels for people who reject the norms of society. There is a reason why they were shut down.

"Between 1955 and 1994, roughly 487,000 mentally ill patients were discharged from state hospitals. That lowered the number to only 72,000 patients. 3 States closed most of their hospitals. That permanently reduced the availability of long-term, in-patient care facilities."

If liberals create impossible situations, conservatives over simplify their unrealistic solutions. Your suggestion is an excellent example this.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 21, 2021, 02:43:38 PM
It’s like the concepts of the law, and enforcement of the law, are foreign to him.

I can’t tell if he is just a follower who can’t form an idea without Google, or if he is so senile he doesn’t realize his life is one big non-sequitur ?

What I see a lot of among liberals is simply a lack of StreetSmarts. Most come from nice middle-class white areas and they think the entire world is that way.

Have them live in the hood or in Palestine and they would want out in short order.


Prime’s “Hood”:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Linn,_Oregon


The racial makeup of the city was 90.7% White, 0.7% African American, 0.3% Native American, 4.0% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 1.0% from other races, and 3.1% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latinoof any race were 4.0% of the population.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 21, 2021, 02:56:44 PM
I don’t care.

You are an idiot.

You and the other idiots in Portland are getting exactly what you deserve.

And not one penny of federal funds should be used to bail you out of the mess you’ve voted yourself into.

Someone called your post an owning....since none of what you posted above applies to me...I don't feel the least bit owned. 

I don't live in Portland. I can't vote for the mayor of Portland. I cannot vote for or against funding the Portland police.

I vote in every election. I vote for candidates and measures that are on my ballot. Last Tuesday, I voted for a levy to increase funding for the Clackamas County Sheriffs dept. In previous elections, when West Linn police funding was on the ballot, I voted in favor of it. West Linn has an excellent police force because the majority people in this community support them.

I have never suggested defunding the police. I have no issue with any cop who does his job professionally.

No federal funds will be spent to bail me out of a mess that I couldn't have voted myself into, even if I'd wanted to.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: JustPlaneJane on May 21, 2021, 03:13:02 PM
Someone called your post an owning....since none of what you posted above applies to me...I don't feel the least bit owned. 

I don't live in Portland. I can't vote for the mayor of Portland. I cannot vote for or against funding the Portland police.

I vote in every election. I vote for candidates and measures that are on my ballot. Last Tuesday, I voted for a levy to increase funding for the Clackamas County Sheriffs dept. In previous elections, when West Linn police funding was on the ballot, I voted in favor of it. West Linn has an excellent police force because the majority people in this community support them.

I have never suggested defunding the police. I have no issue with any cop who does his job professionally.

No federal funds will be spent to bail me out of a mess that I couldn't have voted myself into, even if I'd wanted to.

You really are stupid.

I didn’t say that you lived in Portland.

I didn’t say that you vote in Portland.

You are a senile, lonely old fool who comes on the internet to argue because you have no life. You have no life, no friends, and this is where you turn for attention.

It’s telling that your solution to the problem previously, was to build tiny houses using taxpayer money to shelter the homeless. Now today you’re patting yourself on the back because of some other ridiculous tangential act you performed that has no bearing on the topic at hand.

Do you not sense the boards hatred and despise for you ? Are you really that lacking in self-awareness ?

Don’t answer my questions, they’re rhetorical, we all know you are.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 21, 2021, 03:15:03 PM
What I see a lot of among liberals is simply a lack of StreetSmarts. Most come from nice middle-class white areas and they think the entire world is that way.

Have them live in the hood or in Palestine and they would want out in short order.


Prime’s “Hood”:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Linn,_Oregon


The racial makeup of the city was 90.7% White, 0.7% African American, 0.3% Native American, 4.0% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 1.0% from other races, and 3.1% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latinoof any race were 4.0% of the population.

Am I supposed to be embarrassed about where I live? I'm not. One of the reasons I have lived the lifestyle I have is because of "white privilege". Not just presently, but over my entire lifetime. Of this, I am well aware. You aren't telling me anything I didn't already know.

You are 100% right. I've always lived a middle class or higher lifestyle. A very long time ago, I bought a house and lived in what was considered one of Portland's ghettos for less than a year because I found it didn't suit me or my families needs and we had other options.

West Linn's racial makeup is not much different than Oregon's which which in 2016 was, 76% identified as white, 13% Latina(o), 5% Asian and Pacific Islander, 2% African American, 1% American Indian and Alaska Native, and 3% two or more races. It is not significantly higher than Portland's either, with 77% identified as white, 6% as black or African American, 10% Latino or Hispanic and 8% Asian.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 21, 2021, 03:21:43 PM

Before Christmas 2019 he was planning to kill  himself ,  what a sicko !.

I remember that.

He sent me a bunch of crying PMs about being lonely and shit.

Like I fucking cared.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 21, 2021, 03:25:59 PM
Prime you brought up pets living in homeless camps, now you’re talking about service animals. One of the steps to get a service animal is to have a written recommendation from a health care provider.  People with health care providers aren’t ending up in homeless encampments (or if they are it’s a minimal amount).

Again you pointed out pets living in these homeless areas, along with women and children, why? Did you think people were unaware of this? Why do homeless pets matter to you but wildlife doesn’t? What life do you value?

In Oregon, even the homeless and indigent can have healthcare providers if they choose to.  https://www.oregon.gov/oha/hsd/ohp/pages/apply.aspx
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Griffith on May 21, 2021, 03:28:13 PM
Am I supposed to be embarrassed about where I live? I'm not. One of the reasons I have lived the lifestyle I have is because of "white privilege". Not just presently, but over my entire lifetime. Of this, I am well aware. You aren't telling me anything I didn't already know.

You are 100% right. I've always lived a middle class or higher lifestyle. A very long time ago, I bought a house and lived in what was considered one of Portland's ghettos for less than a year because I found it didn't suit me or my families needs and we had other options.

West Linn's racial makeup is not much different than Oregon's which which in 2016 was, 76% identified as white, 13% Latina(o), 5% Asian and Pacific Islander, 2% African American, 1% American Indian and Alaska Native, and 3% two or more races. It is not significantly higher than Portland's either, with 77% identified as white, 6% as black or African American, 10% Latino or Hispanic and 8% Asian.

 ;D
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Dave D on May 21, 2021, 05:33:43 PM
In Oregon, even the homeless and indigent can have healthcare providers if they choose to.  https://www.oregon.gov/oha/hsd/ohp/pages/apply.aspx

Dude homeless people can have access to healthcare. We know there are free clinics. Do you think most of the mentally ill

Never mind. You’re right it’s a shame so many service animals live in homeless encampments. I wish someone would save them.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: ThisisOverload on May 21, 2021, 06:07:54 PM
All major Cities have places to help feed, treat and house the homeless.

The problem is they have rules that these people refuse to follow.

These people live on the street either by choice or because they are too mentally ill to understand day to day life.

The homeless shelter in my City is halfway empty. The people who work there say most people won't stay there because they don't allow drugs or alcohol.

Here in America you have no excuses. Mentally ill people excluded, many of them have no idea even what day it is.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 21, 2021, 06:22:56 PM
I remember that.

He sent me a bunch of crying PMs about being lonely and shit.

Like I fucking cared.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 21, 2021, 06:50:41 PM
Dude homeless people can have access to healthcare. We know there are free clinics. Do you think most of the mentally ill

Never mind. You’re right it’s a shame so many service animals live in homeless encampments. I wish someone would save them.

Be snide. It suits you.
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Dave D on May 21, 2021, 06:52:14 PM
Be snide. It suits you.

 :D :D
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Earl1972 on May 21, 2021, 07:15:56 PM
Do members of ANTIFA tend to be homeless?

no they live in their parents basement

E
Title: Re: Bye, Bye Portland Homeless Encampments
Post by: Primemuscle on May 21, 2021, 07:17:31 PM
no they live in their parents basement

E

Doesn't everyone?