Ben Pakulski Talks Anabolic Steroid Use In Modern Bodybuilding

[plebian]

And now for the truth 

wow, admiring the honesty. Is the only honest bber out there?

also  at his insulin story. That just puts into crystal clear perspective how ridiculous of a pursuit this has become, he came very close to meeting the grim reaper. But also, oatmeal for your insulin? jesus if i was going to be as stupid as to use insulin I'd have a big fucking bottle of OJ or even coke and be drinking that mother before and definitely after injecting, fuck the oatmeal, way too slow.

[oldgolds]

A sport based on drugs....Pretty fucked up....

[Pet shop boys]

A sport based on drugs....Pretty fucked up....

This, 

I wish Ben could come read this thread,  He thinks he can fool the world with his know it all BS " not here .



WoooSHHHHHHHH   Icing on the cake

[IroNat]

Morris is one of the only honest bb out there to do this interview.

Props to him for telling it.

It's so insane.

Another thread for Morris...http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=401361.0

[Evo]

wow, admiring the honesty. Is the only honest bber out there?

also  at his insulin story. That just puts into crystal clear perspective how ridiculous of a pursuit this has become, he came very close to meeting the grim reaper. But also, oatmeal for your insulin? jesus if i was going to be as stupid as to use insulin I'd have a big fucking bottle of OJ or even coke and be drinking that mother before and definitely after injecting, fuck the oatmeal, way too slow.

Oatmeal is actually great on insulin, but you have to eat it before pinning the slin....and as you say a little sugar would be a safe bet....

Back when I was stupid....I could eat oats, pin slin and not have to eat for the second spike...

[ilalin]

do we have a logical medically research backed info on why the huge guts yet?

[plebian]

do we have a logical medically research backed info on why the huge guts yet?

as far as I'm aware -  no. No scientific investigation into the phenomena.

heard all sorts of broscience but nothing concrete. The only thing anyone seems to agree upon is it was entirely absent before the advent of GH and insulin usage. So the debate comes down to what causes what, or is it the combination.

To me the alarming thing is, the extreme cases seem to resemble diabetic nerve damage - the atrophied limbs (in spite of continued massive anabolic usage). We know from the literature that HGH can and indeed does promote insulin resistance.

[willl]

Oatmeal is actually great on insulin, but you have to eat it before pinning the slin....and as you say a little sugar would be a safe bet....

Back when I was stupid....I could eat oats, pin slin and not have to eat for the second spike...

depends how much fast slin you're pinning and how many carbs you're eating
every Type 1 pins first and eats later (15)

if everything is done properly there are no hypo's. use a glucose meter to monitor and assess

[Rambone]

"Steroids are just a tool" 

Touch finishing the just!

[Van_Bilderass]

I'm too lazy to look at the Mike Morris
video but if that's the one talking about
Milos doing a shot of insulin backstage
and going from looking like nothing
to amazing within minutes then that is
bullshit too.

As far as dangers of insulin, there's a potential
for harm but I haven't heard of anyone going into
a coma. Most of these guys could do a good sized shot
of humalog without eating and be fine. Long acting
insulins are hard to "overdose" on as well. Could do 50 units at night without eating much and be fine. BUT it should be respected, hypo episodes may happen when you lose respect for it and you could make a fool of yourself in public, even if actually killing yourself is pretty hard.

[Hypertrophy]

I'm too lazy to look at the Mike Morris
video but if that's the one talking about
Milos doing a shot of insulin backstage
and going from looking like nothing
to amazing within minutes then that is
bullshit too.

As far as dangers of insulin, there's a potential
for harm but I haven't heard of anyone going into
a coma. Most of these guys could do a good sized shot
of humalog without eating and be fine. Long acting
insulins are hard to "overdose" on as well. Could do 50 units at night without eating much and be fine. BUT it should be respected, hypo episodes may happen when you lose respect for it and you could make a fool of yourself in public, even if actually killing yourself is pretty hard.

Since you weren’t there, how could you possibly know if Morris’ story is “bullshit”?

As for comas and bodybuilders and insulin, you may want to read this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3123545.stm

[Van_Bilderass]

Since you weren’t there, how could you possibly know if Morris’ story is “bullshit”?

As for comas and bodybuilders and insulin, you may want to read this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3123545.stm

Because I know how insulin works. You don't change your appearance drastically in minutes like that. More likely he slapped on some dream tan - that can make you look very different immediately, compared to being pale. Suddenly you look like a sculpture.

I'm not saying you can't run into trouble with insulin, you certainly can. What I'm saying is that serious harm or deaths are rare, considering how widespread the use is.
Do you know a lot bodybuilders using insulin, any horror stories?