Covid-19 Vaccine Exposed Part 1

[Coach is Back!]

Another wake up call to a bullshit vaccine

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/federal-govt-whistleblower-goes-public-with-secret-recordings-government/

[Hypertrophy]

[benchmstr]

This mRNA shit is out of hand. I am not an anti-vaxxer at all..but I’m
Not taking any Covid vaccine until novavax is available in the US.

It’s non mRNA, has a higher success rate, lower risk of damage, and didn’t use stem cell research.

Bench

[Tapeworm]

Then you're going to love this.

https://m.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/can-you-grow-covid-19-vaccine-lettuce-uc-riverside-scientists-think-so-679655

[TheGrinch]

[robcguns]

Haha that’s great

[Straw Man]

I guess this moron thinks that are allergies contagious

This statement wouldn't even be accurate if  he was referring to the Covid vaccine

[DanM]

I guess this moron thinks that are allergies contagious

This statement wouldn't even be accurate if  he was referring to the Covid vaccine

He's pointing out the irrational narrative being spun - Where those who are choosing not to be vaccinated are indirectly harming and killing all those who are vaccinated

What good is being vaccinated if it doesn't protect you against that which you got vaccinated againts

[Straw Man]

He's pointing out the irrational narrative being spun - Where those who are choosing not to be vaccinated are indirectly harming and killing all those who are vaccinated

What good is being vaccinated if it doesn't protect you against that which you got vaccinated againts

yeah and his narrative is FALSE

Vaccines aren't 100% guarantee you won't get infected

They prevent most infections and if/when you do get infected it most likely won't be severe enough to land you in the ICU or the graveyard

Think of it like a seatbelt or an airbag

They don't prevent accidents

They reduce the chance you'll be severely injured or die (not a perfect analogy since vaccines do offer protection against infection but hopefully you get the point)

Those who are choosing not to be vaccinated are causing problems for those who are vaccinated.

One, by creating a vector for more variants to mutate and more immediately by overwhelming hospital ICU's thereby limiting (or eliminating) access to critical care by non-covid patients (who are often vaccinated)

[Grape Ape]

One, by creating a vector for more variants to mutate

Please explain this.

I listened to biologists say this went against evolutionary science, and was the administration of a vaccine mid pandemic that causes variants.

[Thin Lizzy]

Please explain this.

I listened to biologists say this went against evolutionary science, and was the administration of a vaccine mid pandemic that causes variants.

He’s just parroting what he read in the New York Times. He does that every day.

[Flexacon]

Those who are choosing not to be vaccinated are causing problems for those who are vaccinated.

One, by creating a vector for more variants to mutate and more immediately by overwhelming hospital ICU's thereby limiting (or eliminating) access to critical care by non-covid patients (who are often vaccinated)

That argument works the other way too. Vaccinations could create a more deadly vaccine resistant variant. Then we'd need to lockdown again and wait for a new vaccine.

People who have had a natural infection will still be immune to any vaccine  resistant variant, so the more people infected naturally the better. A low level spread of the virus as is happening now amongst vaxxed and unvaxxed is ideal.

Don't expect MSM or politicians to tell you this, but hedging natural immunity with vaccine immunity is actually the best short term and long term play. Be grateful the anti vax tards are refusing the vax and taking the greater risk. They are doing you a favour.

[Primemuscle]

Another wake up call to a bullshit vaccine

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/federal-govt-whistleblower-goes-public-with-secret-recordings-government/

Knock yourself out with this stuff.

[Straw Man]

That argument works the other way too. Vaccinations could create a more deadly vaccine resistant variant. Then we'd need to lockdown again and wait for a new vaccine.

People who have had a natural infection will still be immune to any vaccine  resistant variant, so the more people infected naturally the better. A low level spread of the virus as is happening now amongst vaxxed and unvaxxed is ideal.

Don't expect MSM or politicians to tell you this, but hedging natural immunity with vaccine immunity is actually the best short term and long term play. Be grateful the anti vax tards are refusing the vax and taking the greater risk. They are doing you a favour.

I don't know that any of this is true but not saying it's not partially accurate in some way

Can you please post some sources for this info (not Facebook, etc..)

For example:  https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaccine-variants/fact-check-no-evidence-vaccination-efforts-are-causing-new-covid-19-variants-idUSL2N2NL1M2

[Coach is Back!]

Knock yourself out with this stuff.

Are they lying? Actors maybe? Fake patients?

[Flexacon]

I don't know that any of this is true but not saying it's not partially accurate in some way

Can you please post some sources for this info (not Facebook, etc..)

For example:  https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaccine-variants/fact-check-no-evidence-vaccination-efforts-are-causing-new-covid-19-variants-idUSL2N2NL1M2

You need to look away from covid-19 for a start.

https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-vaccines-can-drive-pathogens-to-evolve-20180510/

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198


There is also plenty of data available now the natural infection provides far greater protection against variants and reinfection compared to vaccination. Also as I  told soggy months ago, those who were infected by the original SARS were still immune to a vastly different sars-2 some 20 years later. Small mutations to this virus won't mean anything.

[Straw Man]

You need to look away from covid-19 for a start.

https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-vaccines-can-drive-pathogens-to-evolve-20180510/

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198


There is also plenty of data available now the natural infection provides far greater protection against variants and reinfection compared to vaccination. Also as I  told soggy months ago, those who were infected by the original SARS were still immune to a vastly different sars-2 some 20 years later. Small mutations to this virus won't mean anything.

Do you have any links that specifically address Covid

For example, here's a link to a CDC study that supports the claim that vaccines offer more protection than natural immunity from Covid infection

But then hears an article that says that a prior infection offers greater immunity than a vaccination but oddly a prior infection + a vaccine offers even greater immunity

We all saw what Covid did to Bill Phillips even though he had a prior infection

I don't think we really have any definitive answer either way

It does seem that (at least in the USA) that the unvaccinated are the ones population the ICU's right now

https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html

[Primemuscle]

Are they lying? Actors maybe? Fake patients?

Matt, is that you? Maybe the Holocaust was fake....like Matt says it was.

[TheGrinch]

Ever wonder why there was never a vaccine for the common cold (a coronavirus)?

Here we are....

[Marty Champions]

Are they lying? Actors maybe? Fake patients?

god bless coach

[Coach is Back!]

Matt, is that you? Maybe the Holocaust was fake....like Matt says it was.

Not sure what you're getting here. You said "knock yourself out with this stuff" as if it were a lie? Do you think these are isolated incidences?

[Flexacon]

Do you have any links that specifically address Covid

For example, here's a link to a CDC study that supports the claim that vaccines offer more protection than natural immunity from Covid infection

But then hears an article that says that a prior infection offers greater immunity than a vaccination but oddly a prior infection + a vaccine offers even greater immunity

We all saw what Covid did to Bill Phillips even though he had a prior infection

I don't think we really have any definitive answer either way

It does seem that (at least in the USA) that the unvaccinated are the ones population the ICU's right now

https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html

This isn't odd or unexpected at all.

You need to first appreciate that there are 3 layers of immunity at play here. Antibodies in the blood and b-cell and t-cell immunity.

Antibodies provide the strongest protection against viruses, but with covid19 last only a few months. B-cell and T-cell immunity last much long, sometimes decades.

The stage at which you collect data is what is most important. If you use data from someone who had a natural infection in march 2020 vs someone double vaxxed a month ago then because the double vaxxed person will have short lived antibodies in their blood, they'll likely have better protection than someone who only has b-cell and t-cell immunity.

A person who recovered from a natural infection a month ago would have far greater immunity than the double vaxxed because the presence the antibodies would be far greater and it wouldn't just be restricted to the spike protein.

A person with antibodies in their blood from a natural infection would be very very unlikely to become infected again by the virus. Antibodies would eventually wane, but as long as they are there they still have antibody protection.  Receiving a dose of the vaccine "an unnatural infection" which wouldn't be possible in the real world causes a surge in antibodies to unnatural levels.

Like for like, natural infection is far superior by around a factor of 10. Using one outlier case like  Bill Phillips doesn't change that.

[tommywishbone]

Bingo

[kreator]

Do you have any links that specifically address Covid

For example, here's a link to a CDC study that supports the claim that vaccines offer more protection than natural immunity from Covid infection

But then hears an article that says that a prior infection offers greater immunity than a vaccination but oddly a prior infection + a vaccine offers even greater immunity

We all saw what Covid did to Bill Phillips even though he had a prior infection

I don't think we really have any definitive answer either way

It does seem that (at least in the USA) that the unvaccinated are the ones population the ICU's right now

https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html

You took the jab, what a moron

[Kwon]