Author Topic: Don Long 12 weeks out photos! (Read 44234 times)

davidpaul · « **Reply #75 on:** July 21, 2006, 06:52:43 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on July 21, 2006, 06:50:35 PM

Nope. My experience with rec drugs has all been listed in here and it's not much to talk about at all. As far as prescribed drugs, I was on prozac in grade 10 for depression for three months or so To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if prozac is more toxic than popping a few dbols a day. Recognizing I was depressed was one of the best things I ever did and prozac really works. Things are so good now for me I can't even remember what it's like to be depressed, and I attribute a lot of that to the prozac. Drugs are wonderful, wonderful things if you respect them. And the same goes for rec drugs!

Meth is one of those drugs which is very bad because it can't really be moderated. Coke, E, alcohol, pot, etc, etc, all can be moderated. Can meth be though? I'm not so sure.

your putting coke in the same group as alcohol, and yet you say you are an inexperienced drug user.

davidpaul · « **Reply #76 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:04:34 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on July 21, 2006, 06:58:20 PM

It has nothing to do with experience and everything to do with research into what these drugs do.

Have you researched the efficacy or mind altering effects of these drugs? Have you taken courses in psychopharmacology and do you actually know what these drugs do?

Cocaine CAN be moderated, just as alcohol can.

In fact, far fewer deaths occur from cocaine than alcohol per incidence of use. That is statistical fact.

I'm really not one to debate on these issues. If anyone who disagrees with me bothered to actually look at the scientific and medical studies done on these drugs they would realize I am right.

so you like drugs huh.

davidpaul · « **Reply #77 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:08:31 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on July 21, 2006, 07:06:25 PM

I once had the same opinion you did. I kept debating with someone until I was blue in the face until one day I went out and did the research and realized my friend was right.

I urge you to do the research and I think if you do you will see that my point of view is perfectly valid and very rational.

To begin, start here:

http://www.bbsnews.net/drug-deaths.html

i think i might start hanging around with the local crackwhores and crackheads, ill tell them that matt c off bodybuildingpro/getbig said their lifestyle was ok by him.

sarcasm · « **Reply #78 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:11:22 PM »

Quote from: davidpaul on July 21, 2006, 07:08:31 PM

i think i might start hanging around with the local crackwhores and crackheads, ill tell them that matt c off bodybuildingpro/getbig said their lifestyle was ok by him.

who are you to judge?

davidpaul · « **Reply #79 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:13:15 PM »

Quote from: sarcasm on July 21, 2006, 07:11:22 PM

who are you to judge?

im just messing with matt, he seems to be having some kind of breakdown over the drug issue.

Woten · « **Reply #80 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:14:55 PM »

Quote from: davidpaul on July 21, 2006, 07:08:31 PM

i think i might start hanging around with the local crackwhores and crackheads, ill tell them that matt c off bodybuildingpro/getbig said their lifestyle was ok by him.

Crackheads? no, you can keep those

Crackwhores? well, at $10 for anal, ass to mouth and a facial, they are ok in my book

sarcasm · « **Reply #81 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:16:30 PM »

Quote from: davidpaul on July 21, 2006, 07:13:15 PM

im just messing with matt, he seems to be having some kind of breakdown over the drug issue.

i wouldn't call it a meltdown, Matt is an intelligent guy, he's a guy who thinks out loud sometimes.

Lift Studios · « **Reply #82 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:18:44 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on July 21, 2006, 06:56:12 PM

It's obvious at this point you are avoiding my attempts to intelligently debate the matter. I made an effort to try to relate to you or see some sort of middle ground but it seems you are set in your ways.

Did Titus have a 130 IQ, an undergraduate degree in pure math, and numerous other degrees and academic achievements.

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/resume.html

Didn't think so.

You seem to be suggesting that everyone who does rec drugs even once later becomes addicted and turns into a killer.

Millions of people use recreational drugs and the sweeping majority of them are not addicted or off murdering their mistress.

People kill people. People who use drugs kill people. It's time to stop pretending the issue is so simplistic as saying drugs cause everything bad in the word and start looking at the relevant issues in a critical manner.

Dude the only thing I'm suggesting is you seem to be suffering from Titusitus. Where one thinks they are larger then life and smarter then everyone.

I could give two shits what you do, what crackpipe you hit, etc. You've rambled on and on about your stance on drugs. Sweet but WTF does that have anything to do with Don Long's 12 week out photos?

sarcasm · « **Reply #83 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:20:49 PM »

Quote from: Lift Studios on July 21, 2006, 07:18:44 PM

Dude the only thing I'm suggesting is you seem to be suffering from Titusitus. Where one thinks they are larger then life and smarter then everyone.

I could give two shits what you do, what crackpipe you hit, etc. You've rambled on and on about your stance on drugs. Sweet but WTF does that have anything to do with Don Long's 12 week out photos?

he's talking about Don abusing steroids after his sister was kind enough to give him one of her kidneys, that makes him a moron.

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #84 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:21:53 PM »

Quote from: Lift Studios on July 21, 2006, 07:18:44 PM

Dude the only thing I'm suggesting is you seem to be suffering from Titusitus. Where one thinks they are larger then life and smarter then everyone.

Really i didn't get that impression at all

Lift Studios · « **Reply #85 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:23:40 PM »

Quote from: sarcasm on July 21, 2006, 07:20:49 PM

he's talking about Don abusing steroids after his sister was kind enough to give him one of her kidneys, that makes him a moron.

Nice ASSumption, but you don't know what Don is or isn't taking. Ever stop and think that maybe Don did his own research before deciding to compete?

sarcasm · « **Reply #86 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:25:54 PM »

Quote from: Lift Studios on July 21, 2006, 07:23:40 PM

Nice ASSumption, but you don't know what Don is or isn't taking. Ever stop and think that maybe Don did his own research before deciding to compete?

hahahaha, come on Isaac, i may have been born at night but it wasn't last night, even if he's using half of what he was using before it's still too much.

pobrecito · « **Reply #87 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:28:54 PM »

We question this guys sanity by putting his life on the line to compete, but honestly, what else can he do in life?

sarcasm · « **Reply #88 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:29:02 PM »

hahahaha, i just went back and looked at the pics at the top of the thread, are you fucking kidding me? he's the exact same size as he used to be, Isaac if you think he's just doing a light cycle you're kidding yourself, he's on a full out pro cycle.

Lift Studios · « **Reply #89 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:30:01 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on July 21, 2006, 07:26:06 PM

Well...

I usually only debate matters that I have a high level of confidence in. There are a lot of things I don't know, and I'm still learning. The things I am vocal about are things that I have put a lot of thought and research into. There isn't always one right answer.

lol, no, no. Moderation is cool.

Thanks, yes that is my point!! I believe in respecting drugs and I don't feel Don is doing that. I think a lot on here share that opinion.

Usually... So is this one of those times in which you're not totally sure on... Do you have a high level of confidence that you know what Don is doing in his prep for this show?

I can assure you, you don't.

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #90 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:51:29 PM »

Quote from: Lift Studios on July 21, 2006, 07:30:01 PM

I can assure you, you don't.

I can assure you have something against Matt C and won't admit to it.

sarcasm · « **Reply #91 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:55:34 PM »

Quote from: Lift Studios on July 21, 2006, 07:30:01 PM

Usually... So is this one of those times in which you're not totally sure on... Do you have a high level of confidence that you know what Don is doing in his prep for this show?

I can assure you, you don't.

do you? are you there with him 24 hours a day?

Lift Studios · « **Reply #92 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:57:30 PM »

Quote from: MikeThaMachine on July 21, 2006, 07:51:29 PM

I can assure you have something against Matt C and won't admit to it.

HAHA - yes I hold him responsible for wasting 10 minutes of my life reading and responding to his posts that have nothing to do with Don Long's photos.

Sarcasm -

Lift Studios · « **Reply #93 on:** July 21, 2006, 08:07:00 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on July 21, 2006, 08:00:29 PM

I suppose I do not, but I can't see it being possible for him to be the size he is now without anabolics.

My fear with Don is diuretic use and high protein intake though, not so much anabolics.

Dude - listen to the interview Don did on Muscleradio - he won't take any diuretics and his protein intake is low. He doesn't need to use diurectics due to nocternal dialysis.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #94 on:** July 21, 2006, 08:48:50 PM »

hahahah His diaylysis machine is in overdrive and starting to smoke.....hahahah

Special Ed · « **Reply #95 on:** July 22, 2006, 05:47:44 PM »

I think some guys would prefer to die on stage or in the ring than face up to their familial and life obligations. It's the coward's way out.

Special "I'd rather be Carried by Six than Beaten by One" Ed

muscleforlife · « **Reply #96 on:** July 22, 2006, 06:29:44 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on July 21, 2006, 06:21:35 PM

See, the book "How to Win Friends and Influence People" would have showed that the method in which I debated my point is the way it should be debated.

It really speaks on your inability to open your mind if you can't see my point of view. Believe me, I'm aware of the harm that drugs do. In fact, I will go further as to say that we are both looking for a system that creates the greatest utility and benefit for society as a whole.

You think keeping drugs illegal does this. I think we learned in the twenties that prohibition doesn't work. Prohibition of drugs does not increase the supply or demand of drugs in any significant manner and there are countless negative things that it does do. It creates an underground economy which funds criminals, it creates purity issues which result in health problems which wouldn't have otherwise been there, and it costs the federal government billions of dollars in enforcement which could have otherwise been spent on education of health care. It also fills jails up with users of drugs whose only crime was putting a substance in THEIR body. Something which the government has no moral right to prohibit.

My body - my choice. Period.

Do you honestly think calling someone stupid will change their point of view?

Also, something to think about: if everyone was open about their drug use, the government would be unable to fight drug use. When I go to the clubs, upwards of 75% of the patrons are using illegal drugs. If they all made it clear that was the case, do you think the police would go ahead and arrest all of them? Of course not. I would say that at least 80% of the population in North America has tried an illegal drugs at some point or another. If anyone was upfront and admitted that do you think 80% of the population would be sent to prisons? Of course not.

Here is something maybe you can agree with me on: the current system does NOT work. That is obvious and the proof is all around us. I could make ONE phone call and get an ounce of coke in my hand. Obviously prohibition doesn't stop people from having availability of drugs and the current "war" on drugs is a complete failure.

It's not to find a system that is more progressive. Is the answer full legalization and control of drugs? In my opinion, and in countless research I've read by economists, philosophers, sociologists, and everyone in between - yes. But then again, I may be wrong. The only thing I know for certain is that the current system does not work and has harmed thousands of people and cost billions of dollars.

I totally agree that prohibition isn't and never was the answer. As long is there is a demand, the will be a supply...like immigration.
Sandra

240 is Back · « **Reply #97 on:** July 23, 2006, 04:34:22 AM »

JAy's wife is a nurse, i think. His stuff probably comes from some shady ass LV doc.

ribonucleic · « **Reply #98 on:** July 24, 2006, 12:19:24 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 23, 2006, 04:34:22 AM

JAy's wife is a nurse, i think. His stuff probably comes from some shady ass LV doc.

Like the tourist board says: What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

Until it flees and is apprehended in Boston.

Stealth_94 · « **Reply #99 on:** September 21, 2006, 08:37:14 AM »

It's not anyone's say as to whether or not he should compete. It's his life, his call. Since you are all supposed fans of BBing, why not support the guy in his quest?