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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #275 on: September 02, 2014, 04:26:03 AM »
Jesus Christ..... not Romeny again... fck that guy.

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #276 on: September 03, 2014, 07:48:05 AM »
Jesus Christ..... not Romeny again... fck that guy.

Yes, Romney again.  Please!  ;D

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #277 on: September 03, 2014, 07:51:52 AM »
The ghost of Mitt Romney 2012 looms over this year’s campaign
by Sean Sullivan

There are plenty of reasons Mitt Romney lost to President Obama in 2012, but here's a big one: the brutally effective campaign to paint him as a stiff, out of touch millionaire that he painfully reinforced in his infamous "47 percent" video.

The same formula that felled Romney threatens to derail some of the most promising candidates of the midterm campaign.

The latest to open himself up to Romney vintage attacks is Bruce Rauner, the Republican nominee for governor of Illinois. Rauner on Tuesday acknowledged to reporters that he belongs to an exclusive wine club that costs more than $100,000 to join. The Democratic attack ad practically writes itself.

After all, Democrats have long been eager for any chance they get to cast Rauner as the Romney of 2014. The Democratic Governors Association released a video last month tying the two together and accusing Rauner, a former private equity executive, of outsourcing jobs.

With less than nine weeks until the election, Rauner is one of a handful of top recruits running in key battleground races who are vulnerable to being tagged with the same kind of attacks Democrats lobbed at Romney in 2012. From Democrats Bruce Braley in Iowa and Sean Eldridge in New York to Republicans Rauner and David Perdue in Georgia, history could repeat itself in some of the most pivotal contests of the election cycle.

In the case of Rauner, viewed widely as the Republican with the best chance of unseating a Democratic governor, Democrats have been trying to build a he's-just-like-Mitt narrative for months. Rauner, who made more than $50 million in 2013, has unintentionally fueled their attacks with head-scratching comments like the one he offered to the Chicago Sun-Times in March to describe his wealth: "Oh, I’m probably .01 percent."

In the Georgia Senate race, the parallels to 2012 are hard to miss. Democratic nominee Michelle Nunn recently ran an ad accusing Perdue, the former chief executive of Dollar General, of profiting off others' misfortunes. The firm that produced the ads crafted strikingly similar anti-Romney commercials for the Democratic super PAC Priorities USA.

It's not just Republicans getting stung by Romney-style broadsides. To wit: Braley. He's not a mega-rich businessman like Perdue or Rauner. But like Romney, he was caught on camera making comments that instantly raised questions about how tone deaf he was to the lives of everyday Iowans.

In March, footage of Braley, a lawyer and congressman, disparaging Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R) as a "farmer from Iowa" at a private fundraiser became his version of Romney's infamous "47 percent" video. It laid the foundation for a series of GOP attacks on Braley's appeal to working class Iowa voters that have transformed what once looked like a contest that tilted Democratic into a pure tossup.

Eldridge, the husband of Facebook co-founder Chris Hughes and Democrat challenging Rep. Chris Gibson (R-N.Y.), made headlines for all the wrong reasons this spring when he and his campaign dodged a Politico reporter eager to ask him questions about his investment firm.

All these examples reveal something important about 2014: Despite the all the discussion about President Obama weighing down Democrats and far-right Republicans foiling GOP candidates, personal attacks and missteps could be just as toxic on Nov. 4 -- if not more so.

If the personal complications become lethal in November, they could have far-reaching consequences. There are few races as pivotal in the battle for the Senate as Iowa and Georgia. There are no Democratic governors as vulnerable as Rauner's opponent, Pat Quinn. And Gibson's race won't tilt the majority, but it's one national strategists in both parties have been eyeing for months.

No matter the larger political climate, it never bodes well for a candidate when the public perceives them as out of touch. And sometimes, as Romney learned the hard way, it's enough to sink them.


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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #278 on: September 03, 2014, 08:12:44 AM »
Oddly Romney was right about just about everything...and Obama was wrong.
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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #279 on: September 03, 2014, 08:23:54 AM »
Romney was right about everything

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #280 on: September 03, 2014, 08:57:45 AM »
Gentlemen, being "right" on the sidelines does not matter if you cannot put together and run an effective campaign.  Romney could not.

Like when he told auto workers his wife “drives a couple of Cadillacs” . . . or described himself as “severely conservative” (something no actual conservative would say) . . . or declared that “corporations are people, my friend” . . . or offered to bet Texas Gov. Rick Perry “10 thousand bucks” . . . or said “I like being able to fire people” . . . or declared his immigration policy was “self-deportation” . . . or announced “I’m not concerned about the very poor” . . . or dismissed 47 percent of the country as a bunch of moochers “who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them.”

Stashing your money in Swiss bank accounts and the Caymen Islands... failing to disclose your tax returns... the list goes on and on...  

Even in the absence of his opponent, Romney shot himself in the foot repeatedly.  As you reappraise Romney look closely at his record in Massachusetts.  When he left office after one term (he did not even try for a second term) he was deeply unpopular and his job creation record ranked 47th out of 50 states.  There are a handful of compelling GOP candidates, but Romney is not one of them.  

Romney looks good... if your alternative is Meg Whitman.  :'(

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #281 on: September 03, 2014, 11:32:42 AM »
No excuse for the campaign he ran.....no idea what he was thinking. He was the guy running against the guy who is destroying the country so I had to support him. The fact that he's been right about a lot of things especially foreign policy.....and already having a long track record of successful private sector financial work...this all hurts just a little more.
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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #282 on: September 03, 2014, 11:45:42 AM »
No excuse for the campaign he ran.....no idea what he was thinking. He was the guy running against the guy who is destroying the country so I had to support him. The fact that he's been right about a lot of things especially foreign policy.....and already having a long track record of successful private sector financial work...this all hurts just a little more.

Interesting that this is how you choose to measure Romney.  What do you make of his tenure as governor?  And what do you think is the best predictor of how effective he would be as President: his business record or his record as governor?  I suppose you have to choose the former because if you look at his record as governor he does not come out looking so good.   :-X

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #283 on: September 03, 2014, 11:59:48 AM »
Interesting that this is how you choose to measure Romney.  What do you make of his tenure as governor?  And what do you think is the best predictor of how effective he would be as President: his business record or his record as governor?  I suppose you have to choose the former because if you look at his record as governor he does not come out looking so good.   :-X

Right - but Obama's non tenure in the Senate and failed 1st term led you to vote to re-elect him why again? 

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #284 on: September 03, 2014, 12:11:33 PM »
Oddly Romney was right about just about everything...and Obama was wrong.

people just didn't like him.    plain and simple. 

he lacked the gravitas needed for office.  Obama was SO beatable in the polls, obama sucked in debate 1.  Romney coudln't close the deal with the voters.

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #285 on: September 03, 2014, 12:21:37 PM »
Oddly Romney was right about just about everything...and Obama was wrong.

Truth.  He really did show that he has a much better understanding of domestic and foreign policy than Obama. 

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #286 on: September 03, 2014, 12:46:53 PM »
Romney showed it's not just paper resume that wins elections.  Because he had that.

He should have spent the last 2 years talking with PEOPLE every day.  Not wearing a suit singing "who let the dogs out!" for urban photo shoots.  Don't hang out with state senators and reps collecting votes and donor dollars... spend time talking to poor people.  Most good presidents know how to make people feel good.  Romney never did that to normal people. 

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #287 on: September 03, 2014, 12:48:54 PM »
Right - but Obama's non tenure in the Senate and failed 1st term led you to vote to re-elect him why again?  

Here is why:

When Obama took office
• there was no end in sight for the unnecessary 2 trillion dollar war in Iraq (how many US service men and women died unnecessarily? 4000+)
• Osama Bin Laden was on the loose (remember when Bush said he didn’t know where Osama was and wasn’t even thinking about him?)
• the US auto industry was on the verge of collapse
• the housing market had collapsed
• Fannie/Freddie Mac collapsed
• big insurance (AIG) and reinsurance were on the verge of collapse
• banking big and small had collapsed (we came perilously close to nationalizing the banks in the US—something I never would have imagined possible)
• health insurance companies were routinely denying claims for “preexisting conditions”, etc. The Affordable Care Act put a stop to that.
• the worst downturn since the Great Depression had gripped the country.

All of that changed during the first term so the President was reelected.  Of course, it helped that his opponent ran an ineffective and self-sabotaged campaign.  Indeed, I think we can all agree that Obama was primarily elected the first time because of the failed presidency that preceded him.  People would have voted for a cat on the heels of the Bush presidency.



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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #288 on: September 03, 2014, 01:47:30 PM »
Yeah cause this was all Bush's fault.....


Lets see..no real fix to the economy since the bail out
world on fire
gas at 3 buck plus ...ne end in sight
You guys act like 2008 was all dust bowls and bread lines. Bad loans and bubble's burst....people who had no business buying the house they were in or houses in general got hit hard. Bad business practices, greed and loans forced on banks by bad politics all contributed. Has anything changed? I remember buying a house in 2007..the agent tried to sell me a 200K house in Missouri. That's a big friggen house with land...it was me and 2 dogs at the time. The good times started under Clinton and continued under Bush...Obama has done nothing but bring everybody down.
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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #289 on: September 05, 2014, 10:30:56 AM »
Mitt Romney: The need for a mighty U.S. military
By Mitt Romney

The writer is the former governor of Massachusetts. In 2012, the Republican Party nominated him for president of the United States.

Russia invades, China bullies, Iran spins centrifuges, the Islamic State (a terrorist threat “beyond anything that we’ve seen,” according to the defense secretary ) threatens — and Washington slashes the military. Reason stares.

Several arguments are advanced to justify the decimation of our defense. All of them are wrong.

The president asserts that we must move to “a new order that’s based on a different set of principles, that’s based on a sense of common humanity.” The old order, he is saying, where America’s disproportionate strength holds tyrants in check and preserves the sovereignty of nations, is to be replaced.

It is said that the first rule of wing-walking is to not let go with one hand until the other hand has a firm grip. So, too, before we jettison our reliance on U.S. strength, there must be something effective in its place — if such a thing is even possible. Further, the appeal to “common humanity” as the foundation of this new world order ignores the reality that humanity is far from common in values and views. Humanity may commonly agree that there is evil, but what one people calls evil another calls good.

There are those who claim that a multipolar world is preferable to one led by a strong United States. Were these other poles nations such as Australia, Canada, France and Britain, I might concur. But with emerging poles being China, Russia and Iran, the world would not see peace; it would see bullying, invasion and regional wars. And ultimately, one would seek to conquer the others, unleashing world war.

Some argue that the United States should simply withdraw its military strength from the world — get out of the Middle East, accept nuclear weapons in Iran and elsewhere, let China and Russia have their way with their neighbors and watch from the sidelines as jihadists storm on two or three continents. Do this, they contend, and the United States would be left alone.

No, we would not. The history of the 20th century teaches that power-hungry tyrants ultimately feast on the appeasers — to use former Mississippi governor Haley Barbour’s phrase, we would be paying the cannibals to eat us last. And in the meantime, our economy would be devastated by the disruption of trade routes, the turmoil in global markets and the tumult of conflict across the world. Global peace and stability are very much in our immediate national interest.

Some insist that our military is already so much stronger than that of any other nation that we can safely cut it back, again and again. Their evidence: the relative size of our defense budget. But these comparisons are nearly meaningless: Russia and China don’t report their actual defense spending, they pay their servicemen a tiny fraction of what we pay ours and their cost to build military armament is also a fraction of ours. More relevant is the fact that Russia’s nuclear arsenal is significantly greater than our own and that, within six years, China will have more ships in its navy than we do. China already has more service members. Further, our military is tasked with many more missions than those of other nations: preserving the freedom of the seas, the air and space; combating radical jihadists; and preserving order and stability around the world as well as defending the United States.

The most ludicrous excuse for shrinking our military derives from the president’s thinking: “Things are much less dangerous now than they were 20 years ago, 25 years ago or 30 years ago.” The “safer world” trial balloon has been punctured by recent events in Ukraine, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, Gaza, Nigeria, Somalia, Syria and Iraq. “Failures of imagination” led to tragedy 13 years ago; today, no imagination is required to picture what would descend on the United States if we let down our guard.

The arguments for shrinking our military fall aside to reveal the real reason for the cuts: Politicians, and many of the people who elect them, want to keep up spending here at home. Entitlements and programs are putting pressure on the federal budget: We either cut defense, or we cut spending on ourselves. That, or raise our taxes.

To date, the politicians have predictably voted to slash defense. As Bret Stephens noted in Commentary magazine this month, the Army is on track to be the size it was in 1940, the Navy to be the size it was in 1917, the Air Force to be smaller than in 1947 and our nuclear arsenal to be no larger than it was under President Harry S. Truman.

Washington politicians are poised to make a historic decision, for us, for our descendants and for the world. Freedom and peace are in the balance. They will choose whether to succumb to the easy path of continued military hollowing or to honor their constitutional pledge to protect the United States.

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #290 on: September 05, 2014, 11:07:22 AM »
Mitt wanted to expand military spending by 2 trillion.

I think all of us agree it's well worth the expense, right?

sure some liberals want to "cut the military spending in half in 5 years", but conservatives think there shouldn't be any limit to spending on tanks and planes.

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #291 on: September 05, 2014, 11:40:20 AM »
Mitt wanted to expand military spending by 2 trillion.

I think all of us agree it's well worth the expense, right?

sure some liberals want to "cut the military spending in half in 5 years", but conservatives think there shouldn't be any limit to spending on tanks and planes.

When you want to give the Pentagon more money than they are asking for something is very wrong.  ::)

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #292 on: September 05, 2014, 11:45:03 AM »
When you want to give the Pentagon more money than they are asking for something is very wrong.  ::)

he's just being proactive.   It comes with being severely conservative.

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #293 on: September 06, 2014, 05:31:41 PM »
Repubs should stop poking fun and rally around this guy. I really think he's learned from his mistakes and he's got what it takes to finally break through in 2016.

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #294 on: September 13, 2014, 06:32:09 AM »
The one reason Mitt Romney 2016 makes no sense
By Aaron Blake

The idea that Mitt Romney will wage a third presidential campaign in 2016 just won't die. And it's being sustained by stories like today's in Politico magazine, titled "Third Time's the Charm."

This will continue for three basic reasons:

1) He's staying in the news

2) GOP leaders genuinely like Romney

3) Polls show Romney doing well in the 2016 primary and beating Obama in a hypothetical re-do 2012 election.

That first two reasons probably won't go away. For as much as Romney was criticized for not connecting with most Americans, GOP leaders see him for the strengths he has: He's a serious politician with business experience and huge unrealized potential.

But the third reason Romney-for-president won't go away -- the polls -- is overblown. Yes, Romney leads the GOP caucuses in Iowa by more than 20 points, but that's because he's the one guy that people really know. And yes, he beats Obama, but that's because Obama is pretty darn unpopular these days.

And therein lies the real reason Romney 2016 makes no sense: His image. Despite very much remaining in the news in recent months, Romney's image hasn't gotten any better since 2012. And in fact, it's probably worse.

An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll this week showed 33 percent of Americans have positive impressions of Romney, while 39 percent have negative ones. That's six points underwater.

By contrast, the last NBC/WSJ poll of the 2012 campaign showed a 43/44 split on Romney's image numbers. So he's losing ground.

Similarly, NBC/Marist College polls this week showed Romney's numbers are way underwater in swing state Colorado (40 percent favorable/51 percent unfavorable) and aren't even good in deep-red states like Kentucky (44/41) and Arkansas (38/45). That's right, Romney is also underwater in Arkansas, a state he won by 24 points.

There is a certain corner of the Republican Party that won't let the 2012 election go and will continue to pine for another Romney redux, truly believing he has the goods to deliver the third time.

But as these numbers show, if Republicans really want to win back the presidency, he's still a pretty flawed vessel.

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #295 on: September 13, 2014, 06:58:55 AM »
Here is why:

When Obama took office
• there was no end in sight for the unnecessary 2 trillion dollar war in Iraq (how many US service men and women died unnecessarily? 4000+)
• Osama Bin Laden was on the loose (remember when Bush said he didn’t know where Osama was and wasn’t even thinking about him?)
• the US auto industry was on the verge of collapse
• the housing market had collapsed
• Fannie/Freddie Mac collapsed
• big insurance (AIG) and reinsurance were on the verge of collapse
• banking big and small had collapsed (we came perilously close to nationalizing the banks in the US—something I never would have imagined possible)
• health insurance companies were routinely denying claims for “preexisting conditions”, etc. The Affordable Care Act put a stop to that.
• the worst downturn since the Great Depression had gripped the country.

All of that changed during the first term so the President was reelected.  Of course, it helped that his opponent ran an ineffective and self-sabotaged campaign.  Indeed, I think we can all agree that Obama was primarily elected the first time because of the failed presidency that preceded him.  People would have voted for a cat on the heels of the Bush presidency.



1. obamas policies have helped lead to the rise of ISIS, to which we are now facing yet another never ending war.
2. OBL was taken out with the help of intel gathered during the bush administration
3. Bush not obama "saved" the auto industry, who initiated the legislation that obama passed?
4. Bush not obama "bailed out" the banks which helped stabilize the country after the sub prime mortgage crises.
5. The country would be in a much better place without a number of obama policies included the ACA.

Its amazing the revisionist history you have bay...

Romney is not a great leader, neither is obama for that matter but Romney is what the country needed. Obama has held the economy back in so many ways.

Idiots who come out and say I like him b/c he has helped the economy really show how uninformed and ignorant they are on the subject.

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #296 on: September 19, 2014, 03:01:19 PM »
Why not look at Mitt Romney now?
By CLAY WIRESTONE

He’s back.

But he was never gone. Not in our hearts.

Mitt Romney has been making noise recently. And not the noise one might expect a 67-year-old financier to make – cranky mutterings about how the maid lost his best cutlery or how the groundskeeper hasn’t been keeping up with the hedge pruning. No, he’s been making noise about running for president.

Oh, he denies it. He told Fox News Sunday that “I’m not running.”

But then he added a bit of wiggle room: “I’m not planning on running.”

And when asked whether he’d outperform Hillary Clinton as president, he chucked caution to the wind and went for it: There’s “no question about that in my mind.”

A Politico Magazine feature just last week made the case. Its headline? “Third Time’s the Charm.”

On one hand, this seems like a great idea. Have you seen this man’s resume? He built an impressive business, was the Republican governor of a majority-Democratic state and oversaw a masterful Olympic games.

On the other hand, Mitt has already tried this before. Twice. And neither time showed him as an impressive political figure.

A nice guy? Yes. An endearingly awkward Ned Flanders wanna-be? Most definitely. But someone willing and able to slice and dice at the highest levels of our nation’s cutthroat politics?

Naaah.

As I’ve mentioned before in this space, Mitt definitely has one group rooting for him. That would be journalists, who would get out of the tiresome business of having to research other, different Republican candidates.

Unlike last time, the 2016 GOP hopefuls seem less likely to be actively flaky, which means no Herman Cain or Michele Bachmann, for example.

So Mitt would save everyone work! He would also surely provide gaffe after lovable gaffe, focusing on his Scrooge McDuck-like wealth and Mr. Magoo-like perception of the problems of ordinary Americans. Just remember these two words: “car elevator.”

The real problem with this burst of Mitt-mania is it points to the skewed perspective of our current political landscape. U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, just to pluck a name from the air, has articulated an array of provocative positions, some going against party orthodoxy, and shows a genuine interest in reaching out to minority voters. U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio spent time and political capital on reforming our nation’s broken immigration system.

But can Paul win? Maybe not. Rubio’s efforts sputtered out. And it’s so darn difficult writing about policy proposals when so little policy is actually made these days in Washington, D.C. Grand theatrics cooked up by Sen. Ted Cruz? Sure. Interminable broadsides against the Koch brothers from Harry Reid? Of course. But the exhaustive, compromise-laden practice of actual lawmaking takes real effort.

Mitt was never one for content, anyway. Much of his appeal as a candidate was based on the most super of superficialities. Look at the hair! The eyes! Those perfect teeth! He exudes president from every pore. And when it came time to elucidate actual stances, he was comfortable parroting back whatever the crowds he spoke to wanted to hear. In the 2012 debates, he exuded the warm glow of a compassionate conservative. At a GOP fundraiser, he talked icily about the 47 percent of voters who would support Obama no matter what because of government handouts.

Which Romney was the real one?

Both.

He was a content free candidate, reciting what he thought each audience wants to hear. And that’s why he’s an ideal candidate for this era and this generation of political reporters. Facts, positions and policy are secondary. Political advantage is all.

Unfortunately for his fans, that’s probably why he won’t run again. In his eagerness to please Fox News viewers and voters who may have buyer’s remorse, Mitt just can’t help himself from saying things that people want to hear. But even he must know, deep down, that the time has come to turn over the reins to a new generation of content-free bloviators.

And maybe one or two folks with actual ideas.

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #297 on: September 23, 2014, 10:24:40 AM »
The GOP’s tall order for broader appeal in 2016
by Michael Gerson

It is the most important development so far in the 2016 presidential race, at least on the Republican side: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is evidently not a total meathead. Which he would have needed to be to have anything to do with the politically motivated lane closures of the George Washington Bridge — a dirty trick oddly and aimlessly directed at the public. According to recent reports, nine months of federal investigation into e-mails and text messages have produced nothing implicating Christie.

The Ford Gran Torino of GOP politics — a bit ungainly, but a V-8 under the hood — emerges with some dents. The proof Christie offers that he is not a bully is an admission that he surrounded himself with bullies. But the problem of picking the wrong people can be solved by picking better ones. And the attacks of Democrats and MSNBC commentators can now be worn as a badge of honor in the Republican primaries. While relatively moderate, Christie could appeal to conservatives who want to see a fight, which his opponents have helpfully provided.

Christie’s apparent victory in the juridical primary clarifies the Republican contest without doing anything to resolve it. According to GOP money types I’ve surveyed, many large donors are currently frozen in the choice between Christie and Jeb Bush, who are considered the most serious competitors to Hillary Clinton. Contributors are unlikely to jump to one until the intentions of both are clear.

Talk of another Mitt Romney run is idle. He is an almost unnaturally decent man. He has been vindicated in many of his campaign criticisms of President Obama. Since his loss, he has been fluent, funny and at peace with himself. But Romney’s choice as the Republican nominee in 2012 will be remembered as an act of political self-harm. How could Republicans, as the effects of massive financial panic still lingered, have chosen a specialist in leveraged buyouts as their nominee? Romney managed to depress the enthusiasm of white working- and middle-class voters in key states while also actively alienating Hispanic and Asian voters (with talk of “self-deportation”). And still, alarmingly, he was the best Republican candidate of the 2012 field.

The next GOP presidential nominee cannot be the richest and whitest person in the room, prone to Reagan-era rhetoric about tax rates and regulatory burdens. While I oppose literacy tests for voting, I would support a requirement that Republican primary voters read the Republican National Committee’s 100-page “Growth and Opportunity Project” report issued in 2013, also known as the Republican autopsy. The short version: Republicans have a class problem — a disconnect with “middle-class workers [who] have not had a meaningful raise in years.” They also have a demographic problem, which requires Republicans to make a major shift in policy and attitude toward new Americans. “If we do not,” declares the autopsy, “our party’s appeal will continue to shrink to its core constituencies only.”

The typical argument between the Republican establishment and the conservative movement is pretty much irrelevant here. An establishment candidate who reinforces the perception of an elitist, out-of-touch, ethnically homogeneous party is not the answer. Neither is a candidate of conservative purification who has little appeal beyond core constituencies. The RNC autopsy is an establishment document calling for a revolution against the image and message of an establishment party — a plea to reach beyond the base before the GOP is overwhelmed by economic, cultural and demographic change.

Christie, with serious blue-collar appeal, might address the Republican class problem — unless he is out of his class. So far, his presidential indecision has allowed him to avoid comment on topics from immigration to the Islamic State. And it is an open question how his regional vividness will play in other regions of the country. (Recall Rudy Giuliani.) Jeb Bush, who has been called an “honorary Hispanic,” might address the Republican demographic problem — unless his support for comprehensive immigration reform and the Common Core educational standards provoke too much unfavorable conservative enthusiasm. And Republicans might, at some point, realize that Sen. Marco Rubio (who is doing serious policy speeches while others play Hamlet) manages to address both the class and demographic problems at once — unless it is a political problem to be confused for a very bright and earnest college student.

Predicting anything about the eventual shape of this race is premature. But this much is clear: The task of the next Republican nominee is not only to motivate his or her party but also to transform its appeal.

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #298 on: September 30, 2014, 10:39:29 AM »
Mitt Isn’t Ready to Call It Quits
By MARK LEIBOVICH

“Hey, Ann, can you come here a sec?” Mitt Romney called out, sinking into the cushions of a walnut-colored easy chair, his legs outstretched on a matching ottoman. Romney’s blue work shirt was tucked into faded jeans; sockless ankles peeked out from his New Balance sneakers. He paused as Ann Romney entered from the kitchen, where she was baking chocolate-chip cookies. “Sweetie,” he continued, “what are some of the items we gave away at the Yankee swap?”

It was a September morning, and the Romneys were closing up their summer house in Wolfeboro, N.H. The place, which is vast and uncluttered, had a decidedly empty-nester vibe. Framed family photos were clustered on shelves; half-packed bags were strewn around the kitchen. The silence in the living room was accentuated by the distant whine of motorboats on Lake Winnipesaukee. After years of traveling entourages, the Romneys now live alone. There were no staff members or aides or handlers; no phones rang. Nothing announced the presence of an almost-president, other than a sign on the porch: “Ann and Mitt Romney: Tennis, Volleyball, Water-Sports.” A single Cadillac SRX was parked in the driveway as a flock of geese orbited overhead. “Darn geese,” Romney said, “keep pooping all over the lawn.”

The Romneys are in downsizing mode. They have sold their Belmont, Mass., townhouse, and they also might sell the villa in La Jolla, Calif., which they purchased for $12 million in 2008 — the one with the zoning and renovation troubles, the disdainful Democratic neighbors and the much-derided plans for a car elevator. On a lark, they recently decided to make their permanent home in Utah, where they are building a house adjacent to one of their five sons’ 2.5-acre property.

The relocation has not been without its practical concerns. When you run for president twice, you tend to accumulate huge amounts of campaign souvenirs, gifts and other detritus. However elusive the ultimate prize, the trunkloads of consolation trophies endure: There are the plaques, the awards and the occasional engraved glass eagle (“I got it for a speech or something”). Then there are the homemade portraits of the candidate, sent in by supporters. The Romneys have also saved 22 of each campaign T-shirt, button and poster — one for each of their grandchildren. From Ann’s $1,000-a-plate birthday luncheon in April 2012, they have saved the cake topping of her on horseback that was commissioned by Donald Trump.

Had the election turned out differently, these tokens might have found a nice home in some government facility, en route to a presidential library. Instead, Romney was forced to cram them into his garage in Wolfeboro. When he began to worry that the snowy winters would foster mold, he loaded what he could into a horse trailer and paid a guy named Poppy to drive it across the country. Before he left, the Romneys hosted a giveaway party, or Yankee swap, for the things they didn’t want.

“What about that elephant purse?” Ann said, arriving from the kitchen in a light blue blouse and jeans. “Did you mention the elephant purse?”

“Ah, the elephant purse,” Mitt said, nodding. A very nice woman had given it to him, perhaps in Iowa, or maybe Ohio or Nevada. “She made it with that puff paint,” Mitt said. “It had those, what do you call them, bedazzle beads.” Ron Kaufman, a longtime adviser, snared this particular keepsake at the Yankee swap.

“Very appropriate,” Ann said. “Ron is the king of tchotchkes.”

“The best was the bust of Ronald Reagan,” Romney continued. “It was plaster but bronzed. Or it looked like it was bronzed. It said, ‘Governor Mitt Romney, the Reagan Freedom Award,’ or something of that nature.” His tone had hardened a little, acquiring the edge of a sarcastic boast. “I actually have several busts of Ronald Reagan that have been presented to me,” he said. Then the room fell silent as Ann returned to the kitchen to set out a small buffet of sliced turkey, corned beef, two loaves of Pepperidge Farm bread (white and wheat) and a selection of both mayonnaise and Miracle Whip. Romney, sinking back in his chair, looked out the window as more geese flew by.

After losing the presidential election to Barack Obama in 2012, Romney expected to become a political empty-nester of sorts — a “loser for life,” as he predicted in “Mitt,” the Netflix documentary about his two presidential campaigns. (“Mike Dukakis, you know, he can’t get a job mowing lawns,” he remarked at the time.) Unlike John McCain and John Kerry, Romney didn’t have a job to return to in the Senate. Unlike Al Gore, he had already amassed extraordinary wealth. Romney, who is 67, was left to confront the vacuum of a long retirement, come what may.

Being the first nominee to nurse his defeat fully in the social-media age brought its own indignities. Gore could go away and grow a beard, then get rich, fat and separated from his wife, all in relative obscurity. Romney, by contrast, has posed dutifully for Instagram photos with commercial-airline companions (“airports are the worst”), supermarket employees and staff members at Wahoo’s Fish Taco. He briefly inspired a hashtag, #SelfiesWithMitt. Recently he was taking an early-morning jog in Arkansas, where he was campaigning for the Republican gubernatorial candidate, Asa Hutchinson, when a woman accosted him. “You’re John Kerry! You’re John Kerry!” she yelled. He tried to correct her, but she wasn’t buying it; she kept running alongside him. “I said, ‘I’m not John Kerry — I’m Tom Brady,’ ” Romney recalled. At that, she left him alone.

As a candidate, Romney often appeared as if he were bracing for a light fixture to drop on his head. On this September morning, though, he seemed far more at ease. No doubt some of his buoyancy could be ascribed to a postdefeat surge of popularity. G.O.P. candidates had been begging him to campaign and raise money for them; polls had found that he would defeat Obama in a rerun of 2012. A number of Romney’s seemingly askew assertions during the campaign — like identifying Russia as the United States’ greatest geopolitical threat — now looked prescient. An online “Draft Mitt” petition had already accumulated more than 120,000 votes of support.

Romney shrugged off the recent attention, citing the natural human tendency to covet the unavailable. (“If you live in the mountains, you long for the trees and the lakes,” he said. “If you live in the trees and the lakes. . . .”) And yet a confluence of political realities has created a genuine opening for a Romney third act. As Obama struggles through a difficult final term, there is a lack of a clear Republican heir apparent. Presumptive early front-runners, like Chris Christie and Jeb Bush, have shown themselves to be flawed or reluctant or both. A splintering of possible movement candidates (Rand Paul, Ted Cruz) could beget a need for a default consensus choice.

Romney, for his part, is noticeably playing along. He recently told a radio host that he was not planning on running for president but allowed that “circumstances can change.” A recent column by the conservative pundit Byron York noted that Romney had kept in close contact with many of his advisers and aides. As we spoke, Romney compared the barrage of 2016-related questions to a scene in the film “Dumb and Dumber.” After Jim Carrey’s character is flatly rejected by Lauren Holly, she tells him that there’s a one-in-a-million chance she would change her mind. “So,” Romney told me, embodying the character, “Jim Carrey says, ‘You’re telling me there’s a chance.’ ”

This was the obvious opening for me to ask if there was a chance. Romney’s response was decidedly meta — “I have nothing to add to the story” — but he then fell into the practiced political parlance of nondenial. “We’ve got a lot of people looking at the race,” he said. “We’ll see what happens.”

As deftly as Romney plays the self-deprecating bridesmaid, he is open about his dread of becoming irrelevant. After his father, George Romney, a three-term Michigan governor, lost the state’s primary in 1968, he struggled to get meetings. “I remember my dad becoming quite frustrated,” Romney said. “He used to say that Washington is the fastest place to go from ‘Who’s Who’ to ‘Who’s That?’ ” In the saturated media landscape of today, the son has been luckier. “I have been able to get on TV, get key interviews, get op-eds published,” Romney said. When I showed up in Wolfeboro, as Romney led me to the living room, he made sure we were on the record. “You have a tape recorder? Notebook?” he asked me as he was describing the potential mold problems of New Hampshire storage. He wanted to make sure I got this.

Romney also seemed eager to put much less frivolous points on the record. He spoke dismissively about his visit to the White House shortly after the 2012 election — the cursory meeting in which the former combatants are supposed to play gracious, take pictures together and make noises about issues on which they might work together in the future. “It was intended to check a box,” Romney said of the president’s invitation. He was not offered any follow-up, which was typical, Romney said, according to what he heard from some of his executive friends. “No one gets the impression that what they are saying is being incorporated,” he told me. “I won’t mention who it was, but I met with one of the nation’s top Republican leaders, and he said, ‘You know the strange thing is that the president seems to answer to only two people — Valerie Jarrett and Michelle Obama.’ ”

Romney derided Obama for his continual complaints about Republican intransigence. “That’s the nature of democracy,” he said, shaking his head with an exaggerated grimace. He contrasted this with the exemplary bipartisan record of, for instance, himself. When he was governor of Massachusetts, Romney reminded me, he always worked with the state’s liberal stalwart, Ted Kennedy. “Ted Kennedy would do the work,” Romney said, in contrast to the state’s other longtime senator. “John Kerry was always in front of the camera but not out doing the hard work.” He called Hillary Clinton an “enabler” of Obama’s foreign policy and said he was concerned by the isolationist inclination of likely Republican presidential candidates like Rand Paul. Romney told me that he was more passionate about foreign affairs than he showed in the 2012 campaign, which was largely given over to domestic affairs. It went without saying that this probably wouldn’t be the case in 2016.

“Mitt,” which was released in January, portrayed the candidate as a family man — vulnerable, funny and cognizant of the absurdity of his undertaking. “One of the big frustrations a lot of us had on the campaign is that people weren’t seeing the guy we all know in private,” said Representative Paul Ryan, Romney’s running mate in 2012, offering a familiar complaint. “The ‘Mitt’ documentary was a very good picture of that guy.” I asked Ryan if the film’s warm portrayal might argue for a looser, less scripted approach to campaigns. “The pressure you get from the consultant class to conform to the norm and do these stock standard things drives me nuts, personally,” he said.

When I asked Romney the same question, however, he said the exact opposite. “There will be no free time in the back of the plane where you’d just go back and shoot the breeze with the media,” he told me. He would do this occasionally, but his aides argued against it. “They were always afraid that, you know, I’d make some little joke or someone would ask some question that couldn’t be answered — you know, ‘When did you stop beating your wife?’ ” Romney told me that during the campaign, the F.B.I. informed him that a foreign government — he wouldn’t say which — was reading his emails. This was another reminder that there could be no safe zone, no such thing as an unplugged candidate. “The era of spontaneity in politics is over,” he declared, as I immediately wondered when it had started.

“I was talking to one of my political advisers,” Romney continued, “and I said: ‘If I had to do this again, I’d insist that you literally had a camera on me at all times” — essentially employing his own tracker, as opposition researchers call them. “I want to be reminded that this is not off the cuff.” This, as he saw it, was what got him in trouble at that Boca Raton fund-raiser, when Romney told the crowd he was writing off the 47 percent of the electorate that supported Obama (a.k.a. “those people”; “victims” who take no “personal responsibility”). Romney told me that the statement came out wrong, because it was an attempt to placate a rambling supporter who was saying that Obama voters were essentially deadbeats.

“My mistake was that I was speaking in a way that reflected back to the man,” Romney said. “If I had been able to see the camera, I would have remembered that I was talking to the whole world, not just the man.” I had never heard Romney say that he was prompted into the “47 percent” line by a ranting supporter. It was also impossible to ignore the phrase “If I had to do this again.”

Romney’s camera-at-all-times plan, however, reflected his own limitations as a candidate. By the same token, it was quite an indictment that “Mitt” — made by a little-known filmmaker on a shoestring — created a more palatable rendering of Romney than his campaign, which spent hundreds of millions on genius operatives and image makers. Romney, for his part, seemed to understand this. No matter how content he appeared, when the conversation turned to his disappointment in losing, his voice dropped. “It really kills me,” he said. “It really kills me.” He became inaudible, and it seemed as if he might tear up.

As if to rescue him, Ann called out from the kitchen that lunch was ready. Mitt remained in the living room, now staring at the floor. “The consequences of my loss are very clear to me and to a lot of people,” he said. “And that’s really hard.” His voice dropped to nearly a whisper, before he caught himself and quickly pivoted. “Let’s get a sandwich!” he bellowed.

Following behind, I informed the defending Republican nominee that I would now be turning off my tape recorder and that he could relax. “Oh,” he said, “you can keep recording.”

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Re: Life after defeat for Mitt Romney & the GOP
« Reply #299 on: October 01, 2014, 08:31:07 AM »
Mitt's going to go for it!
I cannot wait for another embarrassing loss Romney presidential campaign! :)