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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2022, 12:13:28 PM »


Gotta give respect where it's due.  8)
Btw, what a meal lineup! Look what these guys do today and are miserable.

 

as opposed to 6 bowls of minced gruel that they sit hunched over spooning in that seems to be popular today

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2022, 12:46:40 PM »
as opposed to 6 bowls of minced gruel that they sit hunched over spooning in that seems to be popular today

or do what hunter labrada does and blend protein bars up with protein powder

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2022, 12:53:53 PM »
This video shows how Yates looked at the 1994 Olympia, from the audience perspective



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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2022, 01:28:32 PM »
During the most competitive era of bodybuilding, at 5'7 (that's generous) between 205-212lbs on stage. No guru, no nutritionist, no counting calories, no posing coach, this man ended up having one of the best bodies of all time. Never touched slin (his words), I don't believe he ever touched GH either.

2nd place in Mr. O in 94 and 96. Top 6 in 12 of 13 years he competed.

Incredible when you look back and think about it. We can look back and assassinate his character as he gives us plenty of reasons to but when it comes to the business of bodybuilding there's few that can match or exceed him.

Gotta give respect where it's due.  8)
Btw, what a meal lineup! Look what these guys do today and are miserable.

 


He was actually top 5 in 12 of the 13 O’s

Complete bber imo also, had everything, you can say narrow, small but he had a complete physique including calves

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2022, 01:37:28 PM »
or do what hunter labrada does and blend protein bars up with protein powder

It's actually not that bad if done in moderation. Oat/peanut based protein bars and whey powder. Goes down pretty easy and hits macros.

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2022, 02:04:56 PM »
It's actually not that bad if done in moderation. Oat/peanut based protein bars and whey powder. Goes down pretty easy and hits macros.

I think at one point he was doing 4-5 of those a day

I mean I use to do oats/PB/vitargo/ and protein as a make shift MRP

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2022, 02:08:14 PM »
Gal Listernino went after Shawn at this years Arnold.
Shawn was sitting having breakfast, Gal showed up w/ his Posse, chest out, threatening when someone is most vulnerable.
Shawn talked bad about his "dead friend" (Rodan)  ::)

Gal Listerino  ::) ::)

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2022, 02:12:43 PM »
During the most competitive era of bodybuilding, at 5'7 (that's generous) between 205-212lbs on stage. No guru, no nutritionist, no counting calories, no posing coach, this man ended up having one of the best bodies of all time. Never touched slin (his words), I don't believe he ever touched GH either.

2nd place in Mr. O in 94 and 96. Top 6 in 12 of 13 years he competed.

Incredible when you look back and think about it. We can look back and assassinate his character as he gives us plenty of reasons to but when it comes to the business of bodybuilding there's few that can match or exceed him.

Gotta give respect where it's due.  8)
Btw, what a meal lineup! Look what these guys do today and are miserable.

 

No pre/intra/post workout supplements,
No EAA'S/BCAA'S,
No protein powders
(all loaded with artificial flavoring, food dyes, filters, heavy metals which all fuck up your gut biome and digestion).
No cookies/muffins pre-workout
No cereal post workout
No Five Guys cheats

Then you wonder why Pros look like shit, blown out midsections, always complaining about bloating and digestive issues.  Shawn Ray always had a absolutely chiseled midsection, always in condition. Look at that diet, all real food, technically dude was eating paleo. Never injured, always looked healthy. Even though he may be a dick, he was a great bodybuilder, had an amazing physique.

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2022, 03:00:46 PM »
Not only was he one of the best bodybuilders in the world, but he is still heathy and have a good family.   

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2022, 03:09:17 PM »
Not only was he one of the best bodybuilders in the world, but he is still heathy and have a good family.   

This is questionable,

There have been tons of stories about him cheating.

I think the last time Dexter went off on him abt it

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2022, 03:14:40 PM »
This video shows how Yates looked at the 1994 Olympia, from the audience perspective



Shawn wasn't beating that. He knew it.

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2022, 04:36:17 PM »
Not only was he one of the best bodybuilders in the world, but he is still heathy and have a good family.   
is he still exploiting his young daughter?

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2022, 05:20:13 PM »
Didn't he only win one contest his entire career?

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2022, 05:26:15 PM »
Didn't he only win one contest his entire career?

He won the 1990 and 1991 Arnold Classic. 1990 Pro Ironman

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2022, 05:26:33 PM »
Didn't he only win one contest his entire career?

3 , stripped of one of them

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2022, 05:51:15 PM »
Didn't he only win one contest his entire career?

Two of them: 1990 IronMan; and 1991 ASC.

You have to remember that in the 80s and early 90s, placing top 10 at the Olympia was more prestigious than winning shows. So, a lot of bodybuilders who cracked the top 10 didn't bother competing anywhere else (especially since placing that high qualified you for the following year's Olympia).

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2022, 05:59:35 PM »


Shawn Ray

Height 5'7"

Weight 205

Born September 9, 1965


1984

Mr Los Angeles - AAU, Teen, 1st

1985

Teen Nationals - NPC, Overall Winner

1986

Junior Nationals - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 2nd

1987

California Championships - NPC, Overall Winner
California Championships - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
Nationals - NPC, Overall Winner
Nationals - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st

1988

Night of Champions - IFBB, 4th
Olympia - IFBB, 13th

1990

Arnold Classic - IFBB, Disqualified
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 3rd

1991

Arnold Classic - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 5th

1992

Olympia - IFBB, 4th

1993

Olympia - IFBB, 3rd

1994

Olympia - IFBB, 2nd

1995

Olympia - IFBB, 4th

1996

Arnold Classic - IFBB, 5th
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
Olympia - IFBB, 2nd

1997

Olympia - IFBB, 3rd

1998

Olympia - IFBB, 5th

1999

Olympia - IFBB, 5th

2000

Olympia - IFBB, 4th

2001

Olympia - IFBB, 4th

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2022, 06:02:31 PM »
Two of them: 1990 IronMan; and 1991 ASC.

You have to remember that in the 80s and early 90s, placing top 10 at the Olympia was more prestigious than winning shows. So, a lot of bodybuilders who cracked the top 10 didn't bother competing anywhere else (especially since placing that high qualified you for the following year's Olympia).

Getting a pro card back then would be more prestigious than winning most pro shows now.

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2022, 06:02:59 PM »
Gal Listernino went after Shawn at this years Arnold.
Shawn was sitting having breakfast, Gal showed up w/ his Posse, chest out, threatening when someone is most vulnerable.
Shawn talked bad about his "dead friend" (Rodan)  ::)

Gal Listerino  ::) ::)
Shawn got punked. Once he wasn't safe behind a computer or a microphone he had nothing outlandish to say.

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2022, 06:05:51 PM »
Getting a pro card back then would be more prestigious than winning most pro shows now.
Absolutely. Remember the killers in the NPC back then. Cormier, Newman, Hernon, Don Long, Titus. Only 2 could turn pro. Only a couple could turn pro. The rest had to wait until next year

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2022, 06:06:04 PM »
is he still exploiting his young daughter?


She's been pretty successful. Even had her own reality TV show. They half decent laws in place to protect the earnings of child stars so no luck there for Shawn.

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2022, 06:33:31 PM »
What is this fuzzy still photo supposed to prove? Enlighten me please.

Let's keep things in perspective...
Dorian's atrophied arms, mangled left bicep, bloated ab wall and spilled over obliques make him unworthy of the win. He won only because of conditioning and a big back and calves not because he was a better bodybuilder. Nasser should have placed above him as well. Chew on that.



I'm no bodybuilding judge but if anything this video proves Dorian won fairly. Nasser looks really good, great shape, size, symmetry but the conditioning does make a huge difference.  Dorian looks like he's carved out of granite, Nasser looks like he's pumped full of air.

Ray gets too much flack for being opinionated.  Most of the interviews I've heard of Ray he's telling it like he sees it. Most of what he says is true. Some people don't want to hear it.

Don't know him well enough to say what kind of person he is. He may be a scumbag for all I know but I have no problem with his opinion.  People are to sensitive.  And that cisterno is the worst attention whore. Is there no death that he won't try make about himself and his contrived anguish? Yeah these guys passing away is such a painful memory . ..except for the fact that you can't stop bringing it up on social media.

Great bodybuilder for sure. All the more impressive that he did it on his own.

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2022, 06:54:01 PM »
Didn't he only win one contest his entire career?

Careful.

One more than me (actually it was several he won).  Seriously, after he took 4th in his first pro show, the 1989 Night of the Champions (behind Phil Hill-1st, Robby Robinson-2nd and Bob Paris-3rd), he was nice enough to accept a random walk up in the restaurant invitation from complete strangers to eat with us at Beefsteak Charlie's in New York City.  We were just some young knucklehead fans, and he and his brother knew us from Adam but they came and sat down and ate with us after what must have been a crushing loss (but deserved) after just having won the 1987 Nationals the year before (and looking like a god).  For that I give him all the way good dude.

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2022, 07:04:23 PM »
Careful.

One more than me (actually it was several he won).  Seriously, after he took 4th in his first pro show, the 1989 Night of the Champions (behind Phil Hill-1st, Robby Robinson-2nd and Bob Paris-3rd), he was nice enough to accept a random walk up in the restaurant invitation from complete strangers to eat with us at Beefsteak Charlie's in New York City.  We were just some young knucklehead fans, and he and his brother knew us from Adam but they came and sat down and ate with us after what must have been a crushing loss (but deserved) after just having won the 1987 Nationals the year before (and looking like a god).  For that I give him all the way good dude.
Hell yeah. That's badass

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Re: How was Shawn Ray able to do it?
« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2022, 07:23:44 PM »
From what I've heard him say, he credits a lot of his early success to taking advice from former Mr. Universe, John Brown. I'm sure he gave him some dietary tips to get him started. Then, Ray figured things out, via trial and error, from there.


Shawn talked about this with John Brown in this seminar they gave this year at the LA Fit Expo: