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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #125 on: September 28, 2021, 07:13:03 AM »
Before posting here I believed that anti vaxxers were the dumbest people on the planet….boy was I ever right!😆

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To believe that your point of view is the only correct point of view is the greatest form of ignorance in the world.

To anyone that is wondering why a huge surge of new variants of Covid occurs in every country that mass deploys the vaccine, I am here to enlighten you.

This is the most important point- there is zero proof that the vaccine decreases transmission, infection, or transmissibility.

That statement is the single piece of this puzzle that you will not hear or read almost anywhere in the United States.

That statement is the single reason that proves mandates have absolutely no logical reasoning behind them. If you just as easily catch and transmit the virus, the only person protected by your shot is yourself. Unvaccinated people actually pose less of a threat to vaccinated people, because they are more likely to become symptomatic and at least have the knowledge that they are sick.

The only “proof“ that they turn to in their argument that being vaccinated slows the virus down, is the fact that the majority of the positive test results are in unvaccinated people. The biggest problem with this tenant is that unvaccinated people are tested at a far greater rate than vaccinated. About 90% of the PCR tests performed in the US today are on unvaccinated people. Most of you can see the evidence of this in your place of employment. If there is an exposure, right now almost everyone isolates the unvaccinated and requires them to get a test to return to work. Vaccinated people can keep on working like nothing happened.

It’s a fact that the vaccine likely suppresses the symptoms. It may also inhibit replication of the original strain of virus. The problem is, just like when a dog has a litter of puppies, a virus has many different variants in its offspring. And inside of a single person a virus will replicate millions of offspring. if the vaccine is only acting on the original strain, all of the stronger and more transmissible variants will rise to the top and jump off to the next host. So what you have is a huge mass of asymptomatic spreaders being allowed to intermingle with coworkers in the public spreading the strongest offspring of the parent virus that are able to bypass the vaccine.


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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #126 on: September 28, 2021, 07:42:28 AM »
To believe that your point of view is the only correct point of view is the greatest form of ignorance in the world.

To anyone that is wondering why a huge surge of new variants of Covid occurs in every country that mass deploys the vaccine, I am here to enlighten you.

This is the most important point- there is zero proof that the vaccine decreases transmission, infection, or transmissibility.

That statement is the single piece of this puzzle that you will not hear or read almost anywhere in the United States.

That statement is the single reason that proves mandates have absolutely no logical reasoning behind them. If you just as easily catch and transmit the virus, the only person protected by your shot is yourself. Unvaccinated people actually pose less of a threat to vaccinated people, because they are more likely to become symptomatic and at least have the knowledge that they are sick.

The only “proof“ that they turn to in their argument that being vaccinated slows the virus down, is the fact that the majority of the positive test results are in unvaccinated people. The biggest problem with this tenant is that unvaccinated people are tested at a far greater rate than vaccinated. About 90% of the PCR tests performed in the US today are on unvaccinated people. Most of you can see the evidence of this in your place of employment. If there is an exposure, right now almost everyone isolates the unvaccinated and requires them to get a test to return to work. Vaccinated people can keep on working like nothing happened.

It’s a fact that the vaccine likely suppresses the symptoms. It may also inhibit replication of the original strain of virus. The problem is, just like when a dog has a litter of puppies, a virus has many different variants in its offspring. And inside of a single person a virus will replicate millions of offspring. if the vaccine is only acting on the original strain, all of the stronger and more transmissible variants will rise to the top and jump off to the next host. So what you have is a huge mass of asymptomatic spreaders being allowed to intermingle with coworkers in the public spreading the strongest offspring of the parent virus that are able to bypass the vaccine.

I’m my country the unvaccinated are 60 times more likely to end up in ICU with COVID. Evidance is Crystal clear.🤷‍♂️

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #127 on: September 28, 2021, 07:46:43 AM »
I’m my country the unvaccinated are 60 times more likely to end up in ICU with COVID. Evidance is Crystal clear.🤷‍♂️

where do you live and post the stats

Here are the UK stats, take note of the stats from last year (no vaccine) to this year with a vaccine


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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #128 on: September 28, 2021, 07:50:28 AM »
Explains a lot. I have a client from Sweden who has the complete polar opposite views on firearms than Van does

Look, you don't get my point at all. I am not against guns and I think you should keep them. I wish I could have a gun but I can only get illegal guns.

My point is that you are not doing anything with your guns. Nor will you. They are not a solution to your predicament.

As Tapeworm said:

Guns aren't going to help at all. Vaccination will simply be declared a condition for everything. Employment, shopping, schooling, etc. Those measures alone will gain better than 95% compliance globally imo.

No, you shouldn't give them up but they're not a solution to this problem.

Do you disagree with this? Are your guns going to stop the vaccine mandates and creeping communism? You have guns but how did ghey help the election steal? Didn't help one bit.



He's old fart from SWEDEN !.

Most people here are around my age. How old do you think Coach is? What do you offer except retarded outburts of extreme dyslexia?

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #129 on: September 28, 2021, 07:50:46 AM »
where do you live and post the stats

Here are the UK stats, take note of the stats from last year (no vaccine) to this year with a vaccine



Canada.  Where’s the ICU stats though? Unvaccinated vs vaccinated.

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #130 on: September 28, 2021, 08:46:12 AM »
That was a very interesting interview - thanks for posting Vince

And there's an interesting comment below it that kinda fits into the conversation that some are having in this thread.  It's a little over-dramatic, but it gives an angle on why direct action is a last resort:

"The most terrifying force of death, comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know, that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people's door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy... but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone." - Author Unknown


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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #131 on: September 28, 2021, 08:51:45 AM »
Canada.  Where’s the ICU stats though? Unvaccinated vs vaccinated.

Found them for the UK:

"3,742 (73%) were unvaccinated, 724 (14%) had received one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, and 521 (10%) had received both doses."

90% of Hospital admissions in the UK due to COVID are unvaccinated. STRIKING!

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #132 on: September 28, 2021, 09:03:51 AM »
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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #133 on: September 28, 2021, 09:17:40 AM »
Found them for the UK:

"3,742 (73%) were unvaccinated, 724 (14%) had received one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, and 521 (10%) had received both doses."

90% of Hospital admissions in the UK due to COVID are unvaccinated. STRIKING!

numbers (even if they're accepted) won't change any minds.

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #134 on: September 28, 2021, 09:23:55 AM »
numbers (even if they're accepted) won't change any minds.

You're totally right. Nothing will change the anti vaxxer mind.

That's another classic sign of low intelligence.
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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #135 on: September 28, 2021, 09:24:01 AM »
Found them for the UK:

"3,742 (73%) were unvaccinated, 724 (14%) had received one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, and 521 (10%) had received both doses."

90% of Hospital admissions in the UK due to COVID are unvaccinated. STRIKING!

73% of I don't give a fuck is I don't give a fuck.

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #136 on: September 28, 2021, 09:26:25 AM »
73% of I don't give a fuck is I don't give a fuck.
You will when you end up in the ICU.

You'll be begging for the vaccine then. (seen it many times).

Of course by then it will be too late.
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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #137 on: September 28, 2021, 09:31:48 AM »
Look, you don't get my point at all. I am not against guns and I think you should keep them. I wish I could have a gun but I can only get illegal guns.

My point is that you are not doing anything with your guns. Nor will you. They are not a solution to your predicament.

As Tapeworm said:

Do you disagree with this? Are your guns going to stop the vaccine mandates and creeping communism? You have guns but how did ghey help the election steal? Didn't help one bit.

Most people here are around my age. How old do you think Coach is? What do you offer except retarded outburts of extreme dyslexia?

ah yes the assumptions of those who arent free telling me i wont remain free

i have a safe full of guns and ammo

ill start ww3 on my block

anywhere

anytime

i got a 36 mm grenade launcher on my ar 15 installed

6k just for that

get some

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #138 on: September 28, 2021, 09:32:44 AM »
You're totally right. Nothing will change the anti vaxxer mind.

That's another classic sign of low intelligence.
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ah yes

cognitive dissonance

goes both ways

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #139 on: September 28, 2021, 09:33:47 AM »
You will when you end up in the ICU.

You'll be begging for the vaccine then. (seen it many times).

Of course by then it will be too late.
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youll beg for me to load you up with my juice


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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #140 on: September 28, 2021, 09:34:20 AM »
You will when you end up in the ICU.

You'll be begging for the vaccine then. (seen it many times).

Of course by then it will be too late.
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How many times? You work in the medical field? Why would someone with Covid think they could get a vaccine while they have the virus? Who is educating your people?

Based on the numbers only 3742 people ended up in the hospital, what percentage of those were in intensive care? Did all 3000+ end up in the ICU? Did they all die or leave with a debilitating injury/side effect?

What's wrong with the 70,000 health care workers in NY who wont get vaccinated, are they also low intelligence dopes?

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #141 on: September 28, 2021, 09:36:58 AM »
numbers are for the dumb

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #142 on: September 28, 2021, 09:49:19 AM »
How many times? You work in the medical field? Why would someone with Covid think they could get a vaccine while they have the virus? Who is educating your people?

Based on the numbers only 3742 people ended up in the hospital, what percentage of those were in intensive care? Did all 3000+ end up in the ICU? Did they all die or leave with a debilitating injury/side effect?

What's wrong with the 70,000 health care workers in NY who wont get vaccinated, are they also low intelligence dopes?

1. Because they have low intelligence.

2. Doesn't matter if they've recovered or not. They're taking up space of people with non covid problems that need medical care.

3 Yes low intelligence. (You're starting to get it!  8) 8) 8))

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #143 on: September 28, 2021, 09:51:15 AM »
1- im a schmoe

2= im a socialist

3- im ghey

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #144 on: September 28, 2021, 09:52:48 AM »
1. Because they have low intelligence.

2. Doesn't matter if they've recovered or not. They're taking up space of people with non covid problems that need medical care.

3 Yes low intelligence. (You're starting to get it!  8) 8) 8))

2. I understand this point but why care if the US is bringing in hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants who aren't vaccinated? How many non insured people are taking up hospital beds?

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #145 on: September 28, 2021, 09:53:55 AM »
2. I understand this point but why care if the US is bringing in hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants who aren't vaccinated? How many non insured people are taking up hospital beds?

I don't know!

I'm from Canada.

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #146 on: September 28, 2021, 09:58:46 AM »
I don't know!

I'm from Canada.

Well what are you worried aboot then? You guys are good. Not enough people to matter.

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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #147 on: September 28, 2021, 10:01:48 AM »
Well what are you worried aboot then? You guys are good. Not enough people to matter.
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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #148 on: September 28, 2021, 10:06:16 AM »
Covid vaccines have been so thoroughly tested for long term effects that you'll never see one of these:

"Have you or a loved one had the Moderna/Pfizer/J&J covid vaccine in 2021? You may be entitled to financial compensation! Call one of our representatives now!”

Pfizer's 59 year old CEO says he doesn't need the vaccine and will only take it because it's bad optics if he doesn't. So, you know young healthy people definitely need to take it!


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Re: Anyone watching Australia?
« Reply #149 on: September 28, 2021, 10:13:34 AM »
Be like Sweden, Be Vaccine Free, Be Free to Move Around Naturally.

Not sure what you mean or where you get your information, but Sweden is not vaccine free and there are recommendations for 'moving about'. Also a larger percentage of the population is vaccinated in Sweden then in the U.S. (depending on age group).

Vaccinations against COVID-19 are in full swing in Sweden. However, they are free to anyone who wants them and meets the requirements, i.e. age and medical conditions.

The public health agency of Sweden published a comprehensive FAQ. It contains a list of recommendations for limiting ones exposure to COVID-19. 

https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/the-public-health-agency-of-sweden/communicable-disease-control/covid-19/covid-19-faq/vaccination/

Sweden has administered at least 13,607,052 doses of COVID vaccines so far. Assuming every person needs 2 doses, that's enough to have vaccinated about 66.1% of the country's population.