Author Topic: Think that Titus will pull out a "steroids made me do it" defense? (Read 7217 times)

YearsGoneBy · « **on:** February 28, 2006, 06:49:45 PM »

Ryan sure looked like Mr. Limpet in her mug shot.

pumpster · « **Reply #1 on:** February 28, 2006, 07:22:09 PM »

Perfect; the steroids defence should reduce the sentence to around 46 years.

tommywishbone · « **Reply #2 on:** February 28, 2006, 10:05:48 PM »

Since most average people now associate steroids with heroin & cocaine & crack, I think that might be a bad idea.

ALI G · « **Reply #3 on:** February 28, 2006, 11:17:58 PM »

me finks he might try sayin tom prince takin him up the butty was his reason for doin dis terrible behavior

rocket · « **Reply #4 on:** March 01, 2006, 05:25:29 AM »

Lets look at the logic here.

Blaming steroids would at best provide a mildly mitigating circumstance behind the act, but it would be a last hope situation as it is also a full confession.

At this point in time they are clearly trying to go down the avenue that melissa james was a drug addict (and the conclusions that can be drawn using this.. overdose/thief etc). They're not going to jeopardise this by turning around and saying "Yes I did it, but I was on drugs". Drugs will not really get them any sympathy whatsoever.

So no, I doubt that steroids will come into it from the defense. The prosecution may choose to use it but its hardly a necessity at this point.

Childish///AMG · « **Reply #5 on:** March 01, 2006, 07:19:10 AM »

Very good points indeed. I am sure that they will have a number of
avenues to take. Plus I am sure that it will also depend on the make-up of
the "Jury" as to which defense they might have to resort to.

Crusher · « **Reply #6 on:** March 01, 2006, 08:17:14 AM »

Typical, juries are not sympathetic to “the drugs made me do it” defense because the drugs were taken of their own free will. Plus, in order to use that defense, CT will have to admit he killed MJ. It could come into play a s a mitigating factor after he’s found guilty in order to perhaps fend off a death sentence.

rocket · « **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2006, 01:15:48 PM »

Is there an echo in here

Crusher · « **Reply #8 on:** March 01, 2006, 02:59:28 PM »

Quote from: rocket on March 01, 2006, 01:15:48 PM

Is there an echo in here

More like "great minds think alike"

YearsGoneBy · « **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2006, 03:31:42 PM »

Well, eventually Titus will pretty much admit his role in this. That's when I think his lawyer will try that crap but only until then.

RUDE BUOY · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2006, 11:57:40 PM »

FUCK IF HE DID THAT THE WORLD OF BODYBUILDING WOULD BE DECIMATED MAYNE!! THE PRESS WOULD HAVE A HAYDAY WITH IT!!!!!

Childish///AMG · « **Reply #11 on:** March 02, 2006, 06:52:58 AM »

Hey, when your neck is in the "Noose" or you are about to be strapped to
ole sparky

, one will try anything

FLYLO · « **Reply #12 on:** March 03, 2006, 02:06:59 AM »

...maybe he'll confess that it was his wife, who was on steroids and pms-ing (dangerous combination); and she made him do it.

rocket · « **Reply #13 on:** March 03, 2006, 03:34:43 AM »

Quote from: Crusher on March 01, 2006, 02:59:28 PM

More like "great minds think alike"

You could be my stunt poster.

ramazon · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2006, 06:24:21 PM »

Legal precedent established in California disallows a
steroid rage defense. Both Ray and Sally MacNeil
had "pro levels" of juice according to their toxicology
reports, but not a word about it could elaborated
upon to Sally's jury when she murdered her husband,
Mr. California himself, Ray MacNeil on Valentine's Day.
With the zero-tolerance law practised in Nevada,
does anyone know what the law dictates re
steroid rage arguments in the courtroom?

Operato · « **Reply #15 on:** March 18, 2006, 03:34:48 PM »

no way. he's stated in his MD coloumn a couple times how he doesnt buy the whole "roid rage" theory.

ramazon · « **Reply #16 on:** March 18, 2006, 04:47:05 PM »

Quote from: FLYLO on March 03, 2006, 02:06:59 AM

...maybe he'll confess that it was his wife, who was on steroids and pms-ing (dangerous combination); and she made him do it.
[You could be on to something helpful to the defense, Flylo. To my knowledge, there HASN'T been a steroid rage defense ever attempted by a female athlete
in Nevada. "Killer Sally" MacNeil tried and was immediately shot down in California. Autopsies are often SO lacking in essential tests. When Flo Jo
died in her sleep a few years ago, they didn't even test her for corpe for anabolics during her autopsy. (I got this directly from the coroner during a related
press conference.) It's not standard to test for anabolics during an autopsy.
So I'll be surprised if Melissa's corpse's tested for it. I would think a female
might have more of a chance at the steroid rage defense than a male, if only because females produce 1/100 of the testesterone than a male produces, and
there are plenty of "boomers" using hormone replacement for anti-aging effects. Because Nevada supports a zero-tolerance campaign, I'm doubtful they'll
allow a steroid rage defense to be heard. You can't introduce it in California.
Here, it's the equivalant of arguing alcohol intoxication./quote]

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #17 on:** March 18, 2006, 11:21:07 PM »

Quote from: Operato on March 18, 2006, 03:34:48 PM

no way. he's stated in his MD coloumn a couple times how he doesnt buy the whole "roid rage" theory.

Does not mean he won't use it as a defence on a murder charge.

Hendrix · « **Reply #18 on:** March 19, 2006, 12:29:03 AM »

Quote from: Johnny Apollo on March 18, 2006, 11:21:07 PM

Does not mean he won't use it as a defence on a murder charge.

Its his only hope but there would have to have a history of violence.

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #19 on:** March 19, 2006, 01:09:23 AM »

Quote from: Hendrix on March 19, 2006, 12:29:03 AM

Its his only hope but there would have to have a history of violence.

They would have to prove..

1.He was on Steroids when he killed her.(Basically impossible)

2.At BEST...And the science is sketchy on this but at BEST AAS causes aggression in "some" users not all. Study after study either shows that it 1.Causes aggression in no users or 2.Causes aggression in a select few. So he'd have to prove that he is prone to aggression while using AAS.

Nicole Weeks · « **Reply #20 on:** March 19, 2006, 05:33:44 AM »

All I can say is: Don't these people watch CSI? I could have done a better job covering this up than they did? They were sloppy! They are so assed out on 'roids, coke, meth, etc.

-Nicole

www.nicoleweeks.com

Johnny Apollo · « **Reply #21 on:** March 19, 2006, 07:15:13 PM »

Quote from: Nicole Weeks on March 19, 2006, 05:33:44 AM

All I can say is: Don't these people watch CSI? I could have done a better job covering this up than they did? They were sloppy! They are so assed out on 'roids, coke, meth, etc.

-Nicole

www.nicoleweeks.com

Steroids is the last thing Titus would of been using at the time he commited the crime.

Titus isn't very smart so expecting him to of pull of some elaborate crime and cover it up doesn't make sense. Afterall he made a career out of pro bodybuilding didn't he?

marcie999 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 19, 2006, 07:45:19 PM »

ouch!

Very sloppy business. No evidence anyone was thinking. With their head anyways.

ARMZ · « **Reply #23 on:** March 19, 2006, 07:52:27 PM »

Even if he tries to say roids made him do it, how will he explain his weight loss before the murder. He looked like he was on crack if anything.. Or maybe he was using his own juice that he sold..

onlyme · « **Reply #24 on:** March 20, 2006, 12:23:27 AM »

Quote from: YearsGoneBy on February 28, 2006, 06:49:45 PM

Ryan sure looked like Mr. Limpet in her mug shot.

That's not fair, The Incredible Mr. Limpet didn't use any makeup