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Wiggs:
Start at around :55 where he begins to talk about Jay.
Is this really why they fell out? Apparently they're better now but only recently as of this year. Their falling out is one of the better kept secrets in bodybuilding. Anyone have any insight?


Royalty:
I think that there was definitely more to it than that. Winning more Olympia’s than Jay would not be enough to cause Jay to not be Phil’s friend.

Maybe Phil found out that Jay was friends with Kai, and Phil started attacking Jay (along with Kai)

ProudVirgin69:
Maybe.  I could see Jay being a little salty about putting Phil on and being partly responsible for his success, only to have been surpassed by him.  The fact that it’s been kept secret probably means that it’s really boring  ;D

It’s a little ironic that Phil complains in that video about kids today not showing respect to where they came from when he doesn’t acknowledge Jay’s role in his success.

joswift:
maybe Jay doesnt associate with people who dump a wife with cancer or steal necklaces.

Hulkotron:
I assume most fallings-out in BB are about tang, drug hook-ups, and/or money.

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