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How do you NOT go to failure?
Palpatine Q:
--- Quote from: local hero on July 28, 2011, 08:21:37 AM ---
back to topic,, your a big dude too, do you train to failure or back off, where do u stand on it?
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very rarely go to failure..I believe in high reps and not quite full range of motion, it takes a while to find your "sweet spot" as far as how you should perform your repetitions to get the most out of them....the goal being for the muscle to be fully contracting for the majority of the time under tension....that's how you GROW.
I am an advanced bodybuilder and therefore this cannot be disputed ;D
tbombz:
--- Quote from: Groink on July 28, 2011, 06:16:44 PM ---very rarely go to failure..I believe in high reps and not quite full range of motion, it takes a while to find your "sweet spot" as far as how you should perform your repetitions to get the most out of them....the goal being for the muscle to be fully contracting for the majority of the time under tension....that's how you GROW.
I am an advanced bodybuilder and therefore this cannot be disputed ;D
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hopefully you can be more vocal about your training methods.. ive been shouting from the rooftops to get guys on here to back away from failure..
chess315:
it is scentificaly proven that non faliure training results in the greatest strength gains. Muscle mass is a bird of a different feather. I think it proably wise to avoid faliure on heavy compound free weight movements such as ,bench,squat,deads,rows and so forth on machine and single joint exercises it dont matter as much because they are much easier on the cns. Its common since gain strength with the three power lifts and use that strength you built in other movements that are easier on the cns to build mass. Im not the strongest but I bench around 300 for a set of ten if I did 330 to faliure for 8 it would be dangerous. Let alone squating heavy weight to true faliure. IF YOUR WEAK IT PROLLY DONT MATTER AS MUCH AS YOUR NOT ABLE TO STRESS YOUR RECOVERY SYSTEMS AS MUCH
keanu:
I train to strict failure meaning I could cheat out a couple more reps but stop right there. Your last rep should be difficult to complete, but should not require an all out effort and cheating. Bodybuilding is all about knowing your personal zone. If you train and quit the set too early, nothing happens. If you go too far, and push beyond, your body shuts down (maybe it's a protective mechanism) you might start shrinking and looking terrible. Find the zone. I call it 85% - 90% training. 0% - 75% won't get you much. 90% - 100% can have you going in reverse gear. In the end, the truth is in the pudding. Either you are gaining and have muscle and energy or don't. All the talk in the world doesn't change that.
tbombz:
--- Quote from: keanu on September 01, 2011, 11:28:01 PM ---I train to strict failure meaning I could cheat out a couple more reps but stop right there. Your last rep should be difficult to complete, but should not require an all out effort and cheating. Bodybuilding is all about knowing your personal zone. If you train and quit the set too early, nothing happens. If you go too far, and push beyond, your body shuts down (maybe it's a protective mechanism) you might start shrinking and looking terrible. Find the zone. I call it 85% - 90% training. 0% - 75% won't get you much. 90% - 100% can have you going in reverse gear. In the end, the truth is in the pudding. Either you are gaining and have muscle and energy or don't. All the talk in the world doesn't change that.
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id say 70-90% is a good range. i think you get good benefits from a set even if you when you stop before "strict failure". although i agree you can push yourself to that point and still make gains.. i wouldnt do it on every set nor every workout as , at least personally, would start to overtrain. i do train quite frequently however and that may make a difference.
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