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Title: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 25, 2024, 09:03:55 AM
A New York appeals court agreed Monday to hold off collection of former President Donald Trump's $454 million civil fraud judgment — if he puts up $175 million within 10 days.

If he does, it will stop the clock on collection and prevent the state from seizing his assets while he appeals.

The development came just before New York Attorney General Letitia James was expected to initiate efforts to collect the judgment.

More here....

https://www.newsmax.com/us/donald-trump-bond-appeals/2024/03/25/id/1158515/

Libs are absolutely FUMING over this.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: IroNat on March 25, 2024, 10:59:14 AM
Chump change for Getbigger Trump.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Gym Rat on March 25, 2024, 12:58:25 PM
A New York appeals court agreed Monday to hold off collection of former President Donald Trump's $454 million civil fraud judgment — if he puts up $175 million within 10 days.

If he does, it will stop the clock on collection and prevent the state from seizing his assets while he appeals.

The development came just before New York Attorney General Letitia James was expected to initiate efforts to collect the judgment.

More here....

https://www.newsmax.com/us/donald-trump-bond-appeals/2024/03/25/id/1158515/

Libs are absolutely FUMING over this.

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Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on March 25, 2024, 01:30:36 PM
A New York appeals court agreed Monday to hold off collection of former President Donald Trump's $454 million civil fraud judgment — if he puts up $175 million within 10 days.

If he does, it will stop the clock on collection and prevent the state from seizing his assets while he appeals.

The development came just before New York Attorney General Letitia James was expected to initiate efforts to collect the judgment.

More here....

https://www.newsmax.com/us/donald-trump-bond-appeals/2024/03/25/id/1158515/

Libs are absolutely FUMING over this.

Still way too much. 
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on March 25, 2024, 01:31:55 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1772331295760113943
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: deadz on March 25, 2024, 01:45:03 PM
Wasn't concerned at all about this. All election interference. Trump is on his way to the White House and he's going to give pedojoe the size 12 in the ass out the door.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on March 25, 2024, 05:26:52 PM
Waiting for getlibs to chime in on this
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: deadz on March 26, 2024, 02:14:49 PM
Waiting for getlibs to chime in on this
Crickets from the Lib fagg ots!
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: loco on March 26, 2024, 02:16:27 PM
A New York appeals court agreed Monday to hold off collection of former President Donald Trump's $454 million civil fraud judgment — if he puts up $175 million within 10 days.

If he does, it will stop the clock on collection and prevent the state from seizing his assets while he appeals.

The development came just before New York Attorney General Letitia James was expected to initiate efforts to collect the judgment.

More here....

https://www.newsmax.com/us/donald-trump-bond-appeals/2024/03/25/id/1158515/

Libs are absolutely FUMING over this.

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Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 29, 2024, 04:01:38 PM
A New York appeals court agreed Monday to hold off collection of former President Donald Trump's $454 million civil fraud judgment — if he puts up $175 million within 10 days.

If he does, it will stop the clock on collection and prevent the state from seizing his assets while he appeals.

The development came just before New York Attorney General Letitia James was expected to initiate efforts to collect the judgment.

More here....

https://www.newsmax.com/us/donald-trump-bond-appeals/2024/03/25/id/1158515/

Libs are absolutely FUMING over this.


He still owes 454 million
He is STILL accruing interest on thr judgement
Even if he get elected , he wont be able to erase it
He will lose his appeal
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on March 29, 2024, 04:24:50 PM

He still owes 454 million
He is STILL accruing interest on thr judgement
Even if he get elected , he wont be able to erase it
He will lose his appeal
Does he still have your vote ???
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 29, 2024, 04:33:42 PM
Waiting for getlibs to chime in on this

Welcome to a week ago.   Try to keep up.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=691465.msg10193819#msg10193819
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2024, 04:48:34 PM

He still owes 454 million
He is STILL accruing interest on thr judgement
Even if he get elected , he wont be able to erase it
He will lose his appeal

He might lose in New York, but no way he loses if this makes it to U.S. Supreme Court, absent a horrendously bad decision. 
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on March 29, 2024, 05:16:22 PM
He might lose in New York, but no way he loses if this makes it to U.S. Supreme Court, absent a horrendously bad decision.

How many trials do you predict Trump loses in New York?
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on March 29, 2024, 05:50:55 PM
How many trials do you predict Trump loses in New York?
All of them, New York is a shithole run by shitholes.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on March 30, 2024, 12:19:58 AM
He might lose in New York, but no way he loses if this makes it to U.S. Supreme Court, absent a horrendously bad decision.

Which, if any of Trump's NY cases fall under the jurisdiction of Federal law?

'The Supreme Court of the United States is the highest court in the American judicial system, and has the power to decide appeals on all cases brought in federal court or those brought in state court but dealing with federal law. For example, if a First Amendment freedom of speech case was decided by the highest court of a state (usually the state supreme court), the case could be appealed to the federal Supreme Court. However, if that same case were decided entirely on a state law similar to the First Amendment, the Supreme Court of the United States would not be able to consider the case.'

https://www.justice.gov/usao/justice-101/federal-courts#:~:text=The%20Supreme%20Court%20of%20the%20United%20States%20is%20the%20highest,but%20dealing%20with%20federal%20law.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 30, 2024, 12:59:14 AM
All of them, New York is a shithole run by shitholes.
More businesses are leaving the state because of this.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 30, 2024, 10:33:36 AM
More businesses are leaving the state because of this.

I heard something like over a Trillion dollars has been lost from businesses leaving the city/state
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 30, 2024, 10:35:25 AM
Found it

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/new-york-california-each-lost-assets-financial-firms-fled-south

California’s deficit alone is almost $100 billion
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 31, 2024, 12:11:32 AM
I heard something like over a Trillion dollars has been lost from businesses leaving the city/state
It will only get worse. These people are brilliant.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Gym Rat on March 31, 2024, 09:22:44 AM
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Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on March 31, 2024, 09:24:48 AM
It will only get worse. These people are brilliant.
Even in heavily brainwashed democrat California the politicians try to blame republicans for their stupid ideas and the flow of people leaving. Democrats never accept responsibility for their stupid decisions, actions or results. They're pretty much the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on April 01, 2024, 06:22:27 PM
Which, if any of Trump's NY cases fall under the jurisdiction of Federal law?

'The Supreme Court of the United States is the highest court in the American judicial system, and has the power to decide appeals on all cases brought in federal court or those brought in state court but dealing with federal law. For example, if a First Amendment freedom of speech case was decided by the highest court of a state (usually the state supreme court), the case could be appealed to the federal Supreme Court. However, if that same case were decided entirely on a state law similar to the First Amendment, the Supreme Court of the United States would not be able to consider the case.'

https://www.justice.gov/usao/justice-101/federal-courts#:~:text=The%20Supreme%20Court%20of%20the%20United%20States%20is%20the%20highest,but%20dealing%20with%20federal%20law.

This Leticia James case will make it's way to federal court based on a violation of the Eighth Amendment, if the New York courts don't get it right. 
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on April 01, 2024, 06:23:05 PM
Trump secures $175 million bond in New York civil fraud case
An appeals court last week reduced the amount of bond he was required to post.
By Aaron Katersky and Peter Charalambous
April 1, 2024
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/trump-secures-175-million-bond-new-york-civil/story?id=108715465
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: OzmO on April 01, 2024, 08:12:14 PM
This Leticia James case will make it's way to federal court based on a violation of the Eighth Amendment, if the New York courts don't get it right.

It really should be tried as a violation of the 8th amendment.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on April 01, 2024, 08:29:25 PM
It really should be tried as a violation of the 8th amendment.

That and the fact there is no victim.  The "victims" testified in Trump's favor.  And the absurd valuation of Mar-a-Lago.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on April 01, 2024, 09:06:35 PM

Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
Michael Steele, a former RNC head turned left-wing pundit (lot of those to go around) says Donald Trump’s record-setting bond amount was only lowered due to “special treatment” from the courts.

Of course, the only reason Trump is forced to put up a $175 million bond in the first place is because of Letitia James' "special treatment" where she ran for AG to "get Trump."

New York state's "special treatment" involved temporarily changing the statute of limitations so E. Jean Carroll could sue Trump for a “rape” she thinks happened decades ago — “she thinks” because, actually, she admits not even knowing what year it supposedly happened.

Trump's "special treatment" has him facing 700 years in federal prison while Joe Biden got off the hook for being too senile to face a jury (but not too senile to be president).

Alvin Bragg's "special treatment" involved inventing a never-before-used legal theory charging Trump for covering up a federal crime — a crime he has never been convicted of or even charged with.

The only “special treatment” in this country is for protected classes and Democrats, and we all know it.

What an insane take.
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Michael Steele
@MichaelSteele
·
Mar 25
Yet again, @realDonaldTrump gets special treatment with his own private system of justice. The NY Appeals Court has decided to give Trump more time to pay less money by reducing his bond from $454M to $175 and giving him 10 days to get the money. This makes absolutely no sense.

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1772313776416768185
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: OzmO on April 05, 2024, 02:50:54 PM
 https://newrepublic.com/post/180475/don-hankey-trump-bond-money (https://newrepublic.com/post/180475/don-hankey-trump-bond-money)

May not have the money to back the bond?
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2024, 03:07:45 PM
https://newrepublic.com/post/180475/don-hankey-trump-bond-money (https://newrepublic.com/post/180475/don-hankey-trump-bond-money)

May not have the money to back the bond?

Basically,  this is a ploy for an additional 10-day delay. What will Trump and company produce next. Defrauding the same court that tried you for fraud and won does not seem wise. The judge and the prosecution is likely really pissed.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2024, 07:20:33 AM
A couple of things to think about :

Knight Insurance Group, doesn't even make the list of firms approved by the Treasury to issue such so-called surety bonds.

“It was an opportunity to step in and make a little bit of money and take very little risk, so we’re happy with the transaction and happy we could help” the former president, Mr. Hankey said.  (this will most likely be the epithet that goes on the tombstone for both him and his company.  El Orange-O doesn't have a stellar record for paying his bills, debts or money owed)

In recent years, several of his companies’ operations attracted the attention of the U.S. Justice Department, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and the California Department of Insurance. Since 2015, regulators have taken action against Hankey’s companies four times, public records show.  (Ripping off service members in the military is a big no-no)

Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2024, 09:09:42 AM
A couple of things to think about :

Knight Insurance Group, doesn't even make the list of firms approved by the Treasury to issue such so-called surety bonds.

“It was an opportunity to step in and make a little bit of money and take very little risk, so we’re happy with the transaction and happy we could help” the former president, Mr. Hankey said.  (this will most likely be the epithet that goes on the tombstone for both him and his company.  El Orange-O doesn't have a stellar record for paying his bills, debts or money owed)

In recent years, several of his companies’ operations attracted the attention of the U.S. Justice Department, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and the California Department of Insurance. Since 2015, regulators have taken action against Hankey’s companies four times, public records show.  (Ripping off service members in the military is a big no-no)
You keep spouting stupid shit like this based off of a few bad interactions while neglections the thousands and thousands of interactions where contractors/employees/personal debt was paid. This is the kind of stuff that confirms that your TDS is out of control and that you're a fucking moron that should have his/her right to vote revoked. Weirdo.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Grape Ape on April 06, 2024, 11:46:15 AM
And the absurd valuation of Mar-a-Lago.

This seems to be lowest of all the low hanging fruit for the appeal.

Get a real evaluation, show the activist judge was just that, and go from there.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2024, 02:24:44 PM
You keep spouting stupid shit like this based off of a few bad interactions while neglections the thousands and thousands of interactions where contractors/employees/personal debt was paid. This is the kind of stuff that confirms that your TDS is out of control and that you're a fucking moron that should have his/her right to vote revoked. Weirdo.

You keep defending many, many interactions like this because your TDfS is out of control and you are an obese idiot that should have his/her right to vote revoked on your shitty decisions alone, fat boy.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2024, 07:15:53 PM
You keep defending many, many interactions like this because your TDfS is out of control and you are an obese idiot that should have his/her right to vote revoked on your shitty decisions alone, fat boy.
You're still a faggot weirdo with an obvious mental illness.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 06, 2024, 08:33:46 PM
A couple of things to think about :

Knight Insurance Group, doesn't even make the list of firms approved by the Treasury to issue such so-called surety bonds.

“It was an opportunity to step in and make a little bit of money and take very little risk, so we’re happy with the transaction and happy we could help” the former president, Mr. Hankey said.  (this will most likely be the epithet that goes on the tombstone for both him and his company.  El Orange-O doesn't have a stellar record for paying his bills, debts or money owed)

In recent years, several of his companies’ operations attracted the attention of the U.S. Justice Department, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and the California Department of Insurance. Since 2015, regulators have taken action against Hankey’s companies four times, public records show.  (Ripping off service members in the military is a big no-no)


Indemnity agreements are pretty lock tight. I’d be surprised if he stiffs them and gets away with it.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2024, 11:43:35 PM

Indemnity agreements are pretty lock tight. I’d be surprised if he stiffs them and gets away with it.

Really? Nothing surprises me anymore when I comes to anything having to do with Donald Trump... this master flim-flam man.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 07, 2024, 07:31:21 AM
Really? Nothing surprises me anymore when I comes to anything having to do with Donald Trump... this master flim-flam man.

Is that what you’ve been told? lol
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on April 07, 2024, 08:49:22 AM
Is that what you’ve been told? lol
Of course that's what he's been told, because of the hundreds of thousands of transactions in Trumps career a few people claim they weren't paid so now that's the focus of the negative driven media and chumps and weirdos eat it up.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 07, 2024, 10:46:47 AM
You're still a faggot weirdo with an obvious mental illness.

Trumpturds sure fantasize a lot about queerness and pedo shit all the time.  No other group constantly projects like that.  You know when they start projecting like that is when you have them to the point of having nothing else to say. 

Weak ass TDfS TV static fat boy.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 07, 2024, 10:47:40 AM

Indemnity agreements are pretty lock tight. I’d be surprised if he stiffs them and gets away with it.

It can be voted upon and amended.  With the majority of his cronies in charge, it would be a "yes" for sure. 
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on April 07, 2024, 11:54:14 AM
Trumpturds sure fantasize a lot about queerness and pedo shit all the time.  No other group constantly projects like that.  You know when they start projecting like that is when you have them to the point of having nothing else to say. 

Weak ass TDfS TV static fat boy.
Interesting projection, weirdo.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 07, 2024, 12:57:16 PM
Is that what you’ve been told? lol

No, this is what I believe. How can I be told what surprises me? The only way to know this is to be me. I think the label flim-flam man fits Donald Trump and it is less derogatory than what some people call him.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 07, 2024, 01:23:48 PM
Of course that's what he's been told, because of the hundreds of thousands of transactions in Trumps career a few people claim they weren't paid so now that's the focus of the negative driven media and chumps and weirdos eat it up.

So, it appears you have lost the ability to think on your own so now you copy and paste what Coach posts?

Someone with Trump’s prolific business career has even less excuse for not paying his debts and employees.

His non-payment record is much more extensive than "a few people". Here is a list of his 4,095 lawsuits which clearly illustrates that he wins some and he loses others. Maybe this helps explain why he is litigation savvy. He has more experience in court than many of his attorneys have.

https://www.azcentral.com/pages/interactives/trump-lawsuits/

Not a few, but hundreds of workers and jobs

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

"So, I reached out to a few law professors who specialize in complex litigation, and they couldn’t think of anyone who has been entangled in as many lawsuits, as both a plaintiff and a defendant, as Trump."

"Trump has a reputation for not paying his legal bills." A few complaints usually do not result in gaining a reputation.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/has-anyone-been-sued-more-than-trump.html


 
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 07, 2024, 02:44:23 PM
Interesting projection, weirdo.

No, just simple fact chubby.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 07, 2024, 02:45:40 PM
So, it appears you have lost the ability to think on your own so now you copy and paste what Coach posts?

Someone with Trump’s prolific business career has even less excuse for not paying his debts and employees.

His non-payment record is much more extensive than "a few people". Here is a list of his 4,095 lawsuits which clearly illustrates that he wins some and he loses others. Maybe this helps explain why he is litigation savvy. He has more experience in court than many of his attorneys have.

https://www.azcentral.com/pages/interactives/trump-lawsuits/

Not a few, but hundreds of workers and jobs

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

"So, I reached out to a few law professors who specialize in complex litigation, and they couldn’t think of anyone who has been entangled in as many lawsuits, as both a plaintiff and a defendant, as Trump."

"Trump has a reputation for not paying his legal bills." A few complaints usually do not result in gaining a reputation.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/has-anyone-been-sued-more-than-trump.html


 

Now, now.....  watch him call you "projecting".   :D
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 07, 2024, 03:11:51 PM
It can be voted upon and amended.  With the majority of his cronies in charge, it would be a "yes" for sure.


I’m speaking of the piece of paper you sign when you have a bond from a surety. They’re going to get their pound of flesh. I have a bonding capacity, and once a quarter I have my agent come through requesting updated financials. My bank only does it once a year for my LOC. It also, at least in my mind, proves he has the money. No surety would put up the bond without knowing they would for sure get their money.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on April 07, 2024, 03:40:50 PM
So, it appears you have lost the ability to think on your own so now you copy and paste what Coach posts?

 
Can you show me where Coach made that same post? You're old enough to know better, you choose to be a liar.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 07, 2024, 06:51:39 PM
No, this is what I believe. How can I be told what surprises me? The only way to know this is to be me. I think the label flim-flam man fits Donald Trump and it is less derogatory than what some people call him.

Yeah…how does it fit? Because the MSM tells you every minute of everyday and like the weak minded liberals you are, you, Agnostic and Lurker believe. You have people  ZERO absolutely to critically think so like good little minions, you believe it.

You know who doesn’t believe it? The banks that have lended him hundreds of millions that were all repaid on time and in some cases before the loans were called and said they would do business with him without question.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 08, 2024, 08:15:15 AM
Yeah…how does it fit? Because the MSM tells you every minute of everyday and like the weak minded liberals you are, you, Agnostic and Lurker believe. You have people  ZERO absolutely to critically think so like good little minions, you believe it.

You know who doesn’t believe it? The banks that have lended him hundreds of millions that were all repaid on time and in some cases before the loans were called and said they would do business with him without question.

Says the person parroting Gateway and Navarro and PillowGuy.   ::)

You have absolutely zero intellect.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 08, 2024, 10:57:11 AM
So the man that doesn't have enough is using a bonding company that doesn't have enough money?   And even then, they don't promise to pay it at all.    ???    Isn't that the point of being a bonding company?   ???

:D 

You can't make this shit up. 

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The Shady Company Backing Trump’s Bond Somehow Just Got Even Shadier
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=The+Shady+Company+Backing+Trump%E2%80%99s+Bond+Somehow+Just+Got+Even+Shadier

An investigation revealed that Knight Specialty Insurance, the company backing Trump’s $175 million civil fraud penalty payment, is not licensed as a solvent surety firm by the New York Department of Financial Services, and has not been vetted by the state’s Excess Line Association, a board of insurers that provides voluntary audits of other insurer’s finances. The reason for that: The California-based Knight does not appear to have enough money in its coffers to post Trump’s bonds.

Trump’s bond accounts for a third of the company’s assets and more than its total surplus funds. Maria T. Vullo, a former New York financial regulator, has called the move to post Trump’s bond “incomprehensible for a carrier to underwrite.”

The company, for its part, seems aware of its predicament: The Beast reports that Knight has not legally promised to pay Trump’s penalty if the former president’s appeal is unsuccessful. Instead, the document Knight produced indicates, Trump would still be responsible for paying.

But now, what appeared to be a stroke of luck for Trump may actually be a case of two grifters looking to get one over on one another. If Hankey’s company in fact has not legally agreed to pay the penalty, Trump may ultimately be forced to forfeit assets if he cannot cover the disgorgement himself. New York Attorney General Letitia James has promised to seize Trump properties if he cannot pay.

In dealing with a shady businessman like Hankey, Trump, whose Department of Justice sued Hankey for illegally repossessing the cars of military veterans, might have heeded the words of one of his favorite poems: “You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in.”
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Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Board_SHERIF on April 08, 2024, 04:23:01 PM
Can you show me where Coach made that same post? You're old enough to know better, you choose to be a liar.

he lied his whole life, sucked off old gay men in bathroom stalls and went home and kissed his wife with zero gilt.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: OzmO on April 10, 2024, 07:43:36 AM
Was it worth it?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/10/politics/allen-weisselberg-sentencing/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/10/politics/allen-weisselberg-sentencing/index.html)

Ex-Trump Org. CFO sentenced to 5 months in jail after testifying falsely about size of Trump triplex apartment

Former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg, who admitted to testifying falsely in Donald Trump’s civil fraud case, was sentenced on Wednesday to five months in jail on perjury charges.

Weisselberg was charged with five counts of perjury, but under a deal with prosecutors, he agreed to plead guilty to two felony counts relating to testimony he gave during a 2020 deposition with the attorney general’s office. Weisselberg also admitted to testifying falsely at the civil fraud trial last fall but that is not among the charges to which he pleaded guilty.

As part of the plea deal, prosecutors agreed to recommend Weisselberg serve a sentence of five months in jail.

Weisselberg testified falsely about his knowledge of the size of Trump’s apartment triplex and how the value of that apartment was inflated on Trump’s financial statements for years based on the incorrect square footage.

Per his recent agreement with prosecutors, Weisselberg did not plead guilty to perjury at Trump’s civil fraud trial over the triplex, and the parties agreed he wouldn’t be sentenced for that conduct, which could be considered a violation of his parole in connection to his 2022 guilty plea.

After the sentence was handed down Wednesday, Weisselberg was handcuffed and escorted out of the courtroom.

It is the second guilty plea by Weisselberg, who in 2022 pleaded guilty to 15 counts of tax fraud and testified in the trial of two Trump Org. entities. He served roughly four months in prison.

Weisselberg had been in plea talks with Manhattan prosecutors for several weeks relating to his testimony taken during the New York attorney general’s civil investigation into the former president in 2020 and when he testified last year, several people familiar with the investigation previously told CNN.

As part of the plea talks, Weisselberg was not expected to turn on Trump and will not testify against him at the New York criminal hush money case, the people said.

Trump is indicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records to cover up a hush money payment and reimbursement before the 2016 presidential election. Weisselberg was central to the financial dealings but neither prosecutors nor Trump’s attorneys said they plan to call him as a witness. Trump has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

In the hush money case, Weisselberg helped arrange the reimbursement to Michael Cohen, the ex-president’s former lawyer, who advanced $130,000 to Stormy Daniels to stop her from going public about an affair with Trump. Trump has denied the affair.

The payment initially drew scrutiny of federal prosecutors who gave Weisselberg limited immunity for his testimony before a federal grand jury. Prosecutors moved forward with charges against Cohen.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 10, 2024, 11:44:24 AM
Was it worth it?


The first prison sentence he got or this one?   :D
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 10, 2024, 11:46:22 AM

I’m speaking of the piece of paper you sign when you have a bond from a surety. They’re going to get their pound of flesh. I have a bonding capacity, and once a quarter I have my agent come through requesting updated financials. My bank only does it once a year for my LOC. It also, at least in my mind, proves he has the money. No surety would put up the bond without knowing they would for sure get their money.

I am interested to see how Trump's Bond plays out. I read they had 10 days to clear up the discrepancies. This is a generous offer from the court since the matter has already been given a couple of extensions. Maybe it is just another creative tactic to delay the inevitable.   
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on April 10, 2024, 04:44:10 PM
I am interested to see how Trump's Bond plays out. I read they had 10 days to clear up the discrepancies. This is a generous offer from the court since the matter has already been given a couple of extensions. Maybe it is just another creative tactic to delay the inevitable.
Of course they are being generous, they know they are fucking him over, the longer they can keep this in the media, the more they can slander his name. What they don't want to accept is that they are the reason he has stayed so popular. You liberals have voted Trump into the position he is in with your attention to the every detail of his life.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 10, 2024, 04:45:37 PM
Of course they are being generous, they know they are fucking him over, the longer they can keep this in the media, the more they can slander his name. What they don't want to accept is that they are the reason he has stayed so popular. You liberals have voted Trump into the position he is in with your attention to the every detail of his life.

Whatever. My thought is that no matter how much he thumbs his nose at the law; fines, bonds and the judge's gag orders he is pretty confident he won't go to jail because of these violations and I think he is right, locking Trump up poses a huge problem for everyone, not just him. This is my liberal view of this messy situation.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on April 10, 2024, 05:01:08 PM
People should be concerned about this massive abuse of individual liberty.  But the Russian Manchurian Candidate scandal, where there were fabricated claims by a political opponent, the use of powerful government agencies to spy on a political campaign, participation by the media, with zero consequences, has emboldened the left to continue trampling the Constitution.  And a large section of the public doesn't care.  It's an ends justifies the means mindset at unprecedented levels.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 10, 2024, 05:02:33 PM
I like being responsible for Trumpy's crimes.  It's almost as if I committed them myself.  I like how I am the one turning state's witnesses and supplying evidence against him.  I like how I am the one who is spending my money on his legal fees instead of the election campaign, the "hostages", or the other party candidates that are on the ballot too.  I like how I keep Trumpy's name in the news for having his ass beat in court nonstop.  I like how I prevent a perfectly innocent man - with evidence of his innocence - from obtaining a speedy trial and instead have him suffer nonstop with delays, delays, delays.  I like how I am the one that files nonstop bogus motions on his behalf every week.

Oh wait, that's not me at all.   ;D
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on April 10, 2024, 05:05:31 PM
People should be concerned about this massive abuse of individual liberty.  But the Russian Manchurian Candidate scandal, where there were fabricated claims by a political opponent, the use of powerful government agencies to spy on a political campaign, participation by the media, with zero consequences, has emboldened the left to continue trampling the Constitution.  And a large section of the public doesn't care.  It's an ends justifies the means mindset at unprecedented levels.
Oh no, don't worry about that, keep talking about some locker room talk and whether or not Trump has billions of dollars laying around in cash. ::) Liberals will do anything except address the abortion of an administration they voted for.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 10, 2024, 05:10:57 PM
So instead of actually talking about the crimes El Lardo committed himself, let's try deflecting and pretending it is someone else's fault.

It's his circus.  It's his monkeys.   :D
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on April 10, 2024, 05:41:00 PM
Oh no, don't worry about that, keep talking about some locker room talk and whether or not Trump has billions of dollars laying around in cash. ::) Liberals will do anything except address the abortion of an administration they voted for.

Absolute truth.  Biden is a train wreck.  The only shot he has is to try and keep his zombies angry and focused on lawfare.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 11, 2024, 05:25:22 PM
So instead of actually talking about the crimes El Lardo committed himself, let's try deflecting and pretending it is someone else's fault.

It's his circus.  It's his monkeys.   :D

Now that the eclipse is over, the Trumpturds can reuse their glasses whenever facts are present.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 11, 2024, 09:04:53 PM
Now that the eclipse is over, the Trumpturds can reuse their glasses whenever facts are present.

 :)
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 15, 2024, 07:49:23 PM
1.5 hours left on the deadline for that bond.    :-*
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on April 16, 2024, 01:20:02 PM
Donald Trump's bond provider defends its help
By Jonathan Stempel
April 16, 2024
https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/donald-trumps-bond-provider-defends-its-help-2024-04-16/
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 16, 2024, 02:08:31 PM
1.5 hours left on the deadline for that bond.    :-*

It appears this issue has not been resolved and is ongoing, with Trump's attorneys claiming the upcoming hearing on the legitimacy of the $175 million bond is not necessary.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 17, 2024, 05:25:25 AM
It appears this issue has not been resolved and is ongoing, with Trump's attorneys claiming the upcoming hearing on the legitimacy of the $175 million bond is not necessary.

"Not resolved and ongoing"...  now why is that par for course for anything that Trumpy is involved in?
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on April 17, 2024, 04:45:23 PM
Sounds like a big nothing burger. :)
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 18, 2024, 12:05:57 AM
Sounds like a big nothing burger. :)
Like all the others.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 18, 2024, 01:02:33 PM
Sounds like a big nothing burger. :)

The nothing burger is not yet cooked. It might or might not be by next Monday April 22nd. https://www.salon.com/2024/04/16/absurd-experts-say-still-playing-games-with-fraud-bond--and-it-could-blow-up-in-his-face/
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: OzmO on April 19, 2024, 09:47:36 PM
 https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/19/new-york-ag-says-175-million-trump-fraud-bond-isnt-properly-backed-should-be-voided.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/19/new-york-ag-says-175-million-trump-fraud-bond-isnt-properly-backed-should-be-voided.html)

New York AG says $175 million Trump fraud bond isn’t properly backed, should be voided
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Gym Rat on April 20, 2024, 03:12:45 AM
10 million foreign nationals w/ free reign...

Shitter = Traitor


i=ZVSSZkrwA5KIXahN
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 20, 2024, 07:48:07 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/19/new-york-ag-says-175-million-trump-fraud-bond-isnt-properly-backed-should-be-voided.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/19/new-york-ag-says-175-million-trump-fraud-bond-isnt-properly-backed-should-be-voided.html)

New York AG says $175 million Trump fraud bond isn’t properly backed, should be voided


The actual bond agreement itself said that if Trump lost or defaulted then HE would pay the state, not the bonding company.   ???  The bonding company having to pay and then recup their money....that's the entire point of the bond right?
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 20, 2024, 09:09:15 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/19/new-york-ag-says-175-million-trump-fraud-bond-isnt-properly-backed-should-be-voided.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/19/new-york-ag-says-175-million-trump-fraud-bond-isnt-properly-backed-should-be-voided.html)

New York AG says $175 million Trump fraud bond isn’t properly backed, should be voided


And if you believe this isn’t (as with everything else) nothing but a witch hunt to take out opposition then any thought of you being reasonably thinking is gone
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 20, 2024, 06:37:34 PM
And if you believe this isn’t (as with everything else) nothing but a witch hunt to take out opposition then any thought of you being reasonably thinking is gone

Sure is catching a lot of witches it seems.   :)

Good Times!!!
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: OzmO on April 22, 2024, 07:52:08 AM
And if you believe this isn’t (as with everything else) nothing but a witch hunt to take out opposition then any thought of you being reasonably thinking is gone

Either the bond is properly backed or it isn't.

Whether or not this is all a witch hunt?  If this is what we have on Trump, 90+ charges over 5 or whatever indictments, I wonder how it would look if the hunt was focused on other rich politicians.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Grape Ape on April 22, 2024, 07:58:49 AM
I wonder how it would look if the hunt was focused on other rich politicians.

That's the thing - like this particular trial - no other politicians would be tried.  For that matter, no other real estate folks will be either.

Sometimes the simple explanation is best.  People ran for their position on "getting Trump".   They went actively looking for anything they could use to get him to trial.  Rules were changed, activist judges utilized.  It is what it appears to be.

But what they've done is degraded many Americans faith in the judicial system, all for personal benefit.  All while crime is increasing in their respective cities.

It's all surreal.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: OzmO on April 22, 2024, 11:02:25 AM
That's the thing - like this particular trial - no other politicians would be tried.  For that matter, no other real estate folks will be either.

Sometimes the simple explanation is best.  People ran for their position on "getting Trump".   They went actively looking for anything they could use to get him to trial.  Rules were changed, activist judges utilized.  It is what it appears to be.

But what they've done is degraded many Americans faith in the judicial system, all for personal benefit.  All while crime is increasing in their respective cities.

It's all surreal.

The law needs to apply to everyone and everything equally.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 22, 2024, 11:15:14 AM
The law needs to apply to everyone and everything equally.

But it doesn’t. But at least James was rejected today.

https://truthsocial.com/@CitizenFreePress/112315714310828117
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Grape Ape on April 22, 2024, 11:40:26 AM
The law needs to apply to everyone and everything equally.

Never has.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 22, 2024, 12:48:03 PM
And if you believe this isn’t (as with everything else) nothing but a witch hunt to take out opposition then any thought of you being reasonably thinking is gone

Ahhhh, the tired old witch hunt theory. It is both laughable and boring! Time to come up with something new folks. :)

What is the literal meaning of a witch hunt?

noun. 1. : a searching out for persecution of persons accused of witchcraft.

Now we find out that among multiple other crimes that Trump is accused of, he also accused of witchcraft. Me thinks someone took his powers away.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Skeletor on April 22, 2024, 01:10:22 PM
Ahhhh, the tired old witch hunt theory. It is both laughable and boring! Time to come up with something new folks. :)

What is the literal meaning of a witch hunt?

noun. 1. : a searching out for persecution of persons accused of witchcraft.

Now we find out that among multiple other crimes that Trump is accused of, he also accused of witchcraft. Me thinks someone took his powers away.

As usual, you omitted something:

Quote
2. : the searching out and deliberate harassment of those (such as political opponents) with unpopular views

Examples of witch hunt in a Sentence
He was the victim of a congressional witch hunt against Communists.


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/witch%20hunt
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 22, 2024, 01:48:15 PM
As usual, you omitted something:


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/witch%20hunt

Oh, okay. So, are you saying Trump's views are unpopular? I thought he was ahead in the polls. Is not that an indicator of popularity? Which of the crimes that he was indicted for did he not commit?
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 22, 2024, 01:52:34 PM
Fox News contributor and legal expert Jonathan Turley said former President Donald Trump’s trial in Manhattan over allegedly falsifying business records has left him “in utter disbelief.”

“What is clear, is in this case, Trump is right. I mean, this is an embarrassment. I mean, the fact that we are actually talking about this case being presented in a New York courtroom, leaves me in utter disbelief. I mean, the the arguments today did in fact capture all the problems here,” Turley said Monday afternoon on Fox News.

"You had this misdemeanor under state law, that had run out, this is going back to relate it to the 2016 election. And they zapped it back into life by alleging that there was a campaign finance violation under the federal laws that doesn't exist," he said.

Turley was reacting to the trial Monday, which has officially kicked off in earnest after jury selection last week, as well as a recent poll finding 31% of Americans find Trump’s behavior at the crux of the case unethical, but not illegal. While an additional 14% said there was “nothing wrong” with Trump’s actions, and 35% who said his actions were “illegal.”

“This case should not have been brought , and if it were brought, there was no reason to have this right before the election in my view. But this is becoming the split screen election,” Turley said. “Earlier it was pretty damaging to see the split screen between Trump in different courtrooms. This is even more effective when the other side of the screen shows Biden campaigning in key states like Pennsylvania, while he's held in this courtroom."

“It really brings home something that bothers a lot of Americans, including people don't particularly like Trump, that this is the weaponization of the criminal legal system. It's something we should all be able to condemn."

Court wrapped up around 12:30 on Monday, earlier than initially anticipated, after a juror experiencing a toothache required a dental appointment.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 22, 2024, 01:53:40 PM
Oh, okay. So, are you saying Trump's views are unpopular? I thought he was ahead in the polls. Is not that an indicator of popularity? Which of the crimes that he was indicted for did he not commit?

All of them.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on April 22, 2024, 02:31:46 PM
Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres
Alina Habba in the last hour.

This is hilarious.

Judge Engoron doesn't even understand Money Market funds.

Agreement reached on Trump $175 million bond.

https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1782465443246076382
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 22, 2024, 03:21:28 PM
Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres
Alina Habba in the last hour.

This is hilarious.

Judge Engoron doesn't even understand Money Market funds.

Agreement reached on Trump $175 million bond.

https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1782465443246076382

Yes, Trump agreed to additional restrictions on the $175 million bond.

Most money market investments mature in three months or less. However, folks can withdraw from a Money Market account whenever they chose. Some banks restrict the number of withdrawals within a given period of time. It is also possible to close a Money Market account whenever you choose, same as with a savings or checking account.

https://www.bankrate.com/banking/mma/money-market-account-guide/#:~:text=When%20can%20you%20withdraw%20from,withdrawals%20typically%20incur%20a%20fee.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on April 22, 2024, 03:25:16 PM
Yes, Trump agreed to additional restrictions on the $175 million bond.

Most money market investments mature in three months or less. However, folks can withdraw from a Money Market account whenever they chose. Some banks restrict the number of withdrawals within a given period of time. It is also possible to close a Money Market account whenever you choose, same as with a savings or checking account.

https://www.bankrate.com/banking/mma/money-market-account-guide/#:~:text=When%20can%20you%20withdraw%20from,withdrawals%20typically%20incur%20a%20fee.

Skipped right over the fact neither the judge nor the AG understand how Money Market Funds work.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on April 22, 2024, 04:35:17 PM
The law needs to apply to everyone and everything equally.
We should all be able to agree on that.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Skeletor on April 22, 2024, 05:04:40 PM
The law needs to apply to everyone and everything equally.

I concur and it would be nice if it did.
Alas, it doesn't when you have judicial/absolute immunity, prosecutorial immunity, presidential immunity, legislative immunity, qualified immunity, sovereign immunity, diplomatic immunity, prosecutorial discretion, sweetheart plea deals, internal investigations and coverups, "extremely careless but not criminal", "too big to fail/prosecute" etc.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: OzmO on April 22, 2024, 05:23:23 PM
But it doesn’t. But at least James was rejected today.

https://truthsocial.com/@CitizenFreePress/112315714310828117

Works for me. 
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 22, 2024, 06:15:40 PM
Skipped right over the fact neither the judge nor the AG understand how Money Market Funds work.

There is the Money Market Savings account which does not lose money and there is the Money Market Fund account which is an investment account from which you can lose the initial investment. So, which type of Money Market account is the $175 million in? Also, Money Market Savings accounts are insured by the FDIC or NCUA... for up to $250,000 which is nowhere near $175 million. What is even more interesting is that investments in Charles Schwab Money Market Funds are not insured or guaranteed by the FDIC or any other government agency. As best as I can tell when checking the Charles Schwab webpage, they do not offer Money Market Savings accounts.

And so, you do not claim I skipped over the fact the neither the judge nor the AG understand how Money Market Savings or Money Market Funds work. I am not convinced they do not understand how they work. But if they don't, so what? It is not a requirement for judgeship or an Attorney General which is an elected position.

Alina Habba either does not understand how the Charles Schwab Money Funds accounts work or she does and she is lying about it to the courts and the press. But then, Alina Habba has a habit of getting it wrong.
 

Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on April 23, 2024, 01:53:13 PM
There is the Money Market Savings account which does not lose money and there is the Money Market Fund account which is an investment account from which you can lose the initial investment. So, which type of Money Market account is the $175 million in? Also, Money Market Savings accounts are insured by the FDIC or NCUA... for up to $250,000 which is nowhere near $175 million. What is even more interesting is that investments in Charles Schwab Money Market Funds are not insured or guaranteed by the FDIC or any other government agency. As best as I can tell when checking the Charles Schwab webpage, they do not offer Money Market Savings accounts.

And so, you do not claim I skipped over the fact the neither the judge nor the AG understand how Money Market Savings or Money Market Funds work. I am not convinced they do not understand how they work. But if they don't, so what? It is not a requirement for judgeship or an Attorney General which is an elected position.

Alina Habba either does not understand how the Charles Schwab Money Funds accounts work or she does and she is lying about it to the courts and the press. But then, Alina Habba has a habit of getting it wrong.
 

Yes the judge and AG should know how they work if the AG is arguing that it's not enough, and the judge, who has to decide whether she is right or wrong, has no idea how they work. 
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2024, 02:19:46 PM
Yes the judge and AG should know how they work if the AG is arguing that it's not enough, and the judge, who has to decide whether she is right or wrong, has no idea how they work.

Well, in this case, Judge Engoron and AG James' lack of knowledge about the security of Money Market Funds is working in Trump's favor. In reading about the discussion regarding the bond yesterday there seems to be a lot of hocus pocus going on. What is more, should Trump lose the appeal, he still must come up with around $500 million. If he cannot access that much cash now because of “insurmountable difficulties”, what is to say he will be able to later?   
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on April 23, 2024, 02:27:39 PM
Well, in this case, Judge Engoron and AG James' lack of knowledge about the security of Money Market Funds is working in Trump's favor. In reading about the discussion regarding the bond yesterday there seems to be a lot of hocus pocus going on. What is more, should Trump lose the appeal, he still must come up with around $500 million. If he cannot access that much cash now because of “insurmountable difficulties”, what is to say he will be able to later?   

He's never going to have to pay $500M.  No way this farce holds up. 
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2024, 02:41:51 PM
He's never going to have to pay $500M.  No way this farce holds up.

How nice it is that you are such an optimist. Who knew?  :)
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on April 23, 2024, 02:46:18 PM
How nice it is that you are such an optimist. Who knew?  :)

It's not optimism.  Just looking at and dealing with the facts. 
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on April 23, 2024, 05:11:29 PM
It's not optimism.  Just looking at and dealing with the facts.
Facts don't matter to the left, only being in control. Facts will be changed to fit their narrative and keep them in charge.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Dos Equis on April 23, 2024, 10:06:49 PM
Facts don't matter to the left, only being in control. Facts will be changed to fit their narrative and keep them in charge.

Truth.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2024, 11:43:20 PM
Facts don't matter to the left, only being in control. Facts will be changed to fit their narrative and keep them in charge.

Facts will win the day when all is said and done. Maybe not what you believe are the facts though. Too bad, so sad.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 24, 2024, 10:29:28 AM
Facts will win the day when all is said and done. Maybe not what you believe are the facts though. Too bad, so sad.

The alternative facts crowd are only kidding themselves.
Title: Re: Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud J
Post by: chaos on April 24, 2024, 04:32:27 PM
Facts will win the day when all is said and done. Maybe not what you believe are the facts though. Too bad, so sad.
History is already being rewritten, your grandkids will never know the truth about the world thanks to liberals erasing our past because they don't like it. Liberals are the problem with the younger generation.