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« Reply #1350 on: January 09, 2008, 05:16:53 PM »
Holy shit, they police that out there too?? I drink Xpand and is bright purple in a water bottle. Sometimes a new trainer will question me (usually only once  ;)) what it is and give me the "only water up here" speal. I have yet to stop bringing it.  

You know they mess with you because you probably do not fit their member model. Those of us stand out and "normal" people freak out a bit because not many are in shape much less bigger than average.

Yes they police out here too like that. However, the "security" has changed a little so now the douchebags (who are balding with big guts) just stand around & hit on the teenagers who work there folding the towels. However, it's only been the "security" people who've said shit to me. Shit the trainers do the same things when they're working out.

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« Reply #1351 on: January 10, 2008, 07:42:12 AM »
Wow, Lifetime Police! LOL!!!
Crime in the midwest at family fitness centers must be on the rise.

I guess they feel Arizona is safer and no need for rent-a-cops.

Security at a gym busting guys for a colored drink, how retarded  :-\

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« Reply #1352 on: January 11, 2008, 11:34:50 AM »
one of those family type fitness gym's kicked out Sam Byrd for dead lifting and passing out on his lift. What a joke if you know who bigbyrd is. He holds the record for the heaviest squat @ 198lbs. They should feel lucky to have him at their gym. He is also body builder ripped.

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« Reply #1353 on: January 11, 2008, 02:56:29 PM »
That is lame....these "gyms" like Lifetime are getting too sensitive toward those people that really work out. Hope he did not hurt himself, if so, all the gym cares about is that he is a "LIABILITY"

Sure everyone heard of Planet Fitness' new (last year or so) policy about NO GRUNTING! Saw on the news a guy that actually got his membership revoked because he grunted. They even have a flashig red light that goes off when someone grunts...


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« Reply #1354 on: January 15, 2008, 06:19:38 PM »
Just for Overload.

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« Reply #1355 on: January 15, 2008, 06:24:08 PM »
That is lame....these "gyms" like Lifetime are getting too sensitive toward those people that really work out. Hope he did not hurt himself, if so, all the gym cares about is that he is a "LIABILITY"

Sure everyone heard of Planet Fitness' new (last year or so) policy about NO GRUNTING! Saw on the news a guy that actually got his membership revoked because he grunted. They even have a flashig red light that goes off when someone grunts...



Some can work heavy w/ out a sound, but for the most part I think if ya aint makin a bit of noise - YOU NEED TO ADD SOME PLATE.

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« Reply #1356 on: January 15, 2008, 07:01:27 PM »
Some can work heavy w/ out a sound, but for the most part I think if ya aint makin a bit of noise - YOU NEED TO ADD SOME PLATE.

I went and joined Planet Fitness, did legs, grunted, farted loudly...they gave me my money back and asked that I not come back.

My goal was to get the RED POLICE LIGHT flashing by grunting (they have one on the wall that goes off if you grunt). The fart was just for added measure to make sure I got kicked out. At least I finished legs and had a good workout  :D

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« Reply #1357 on: January 15, 2008, 07:03:42 PM »
Just for Overload.

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Mmmmmm...i could go for 1 or 5 of those about now! ;D


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« Reply #1358 on: January 15, 2008, 08:19:21 PM »
I went and joined Planet Fitness, did legs, grunted, farted loudly...they gave me my money back and asked that I not come back.

My goal was to get the RED POLICE LIGHT flashing by grunting (they have one on the wall that goes off if you grunt). The fart was just for added measure to make sure I got kicked out. At least I finished legs and had a good workout  :D
Is this a true story? if so pretty good.

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« Reply #1359 on: January 16, 2008, 07:35:50 AM »
Is this a true story? if so pretty good.


Sorta kinda...the farting was exagerated, not that loud but stinkey....but yeah, got kicked out. Kinda did it on purpose..long story, but found out the guy that owns it ran another gym back in the day and screwed me out of a bunch of money. I had a PT business in a gym that he closed down in the middle of the night. He screwed over a lot of people and legally me and the other trainers could not recoup our money.

I joined when he was not there. Made sure to train that day when he was. It was more of a revenge deal but they really do have that stupid light that goes off when you grunt. 

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« Reply #1360 on: January 16, 2008, 08:36:51 AM »
Sorta kinda...the farting was exagerated, not that loud but stinkey....but yeah, got kicked out. Kinda did it on purpose..long story, but found out the guy that owns it ran another gym back in the day and screwed me out of a bunch of money. I had a PT business in a gym that he closed down in the middle of the night. He screwed over a lot of people and legally me and the other trainers could not recoup our money.

I joined when he was not there. Made sure to train that day when he was. It was more of a revenge deal but they really do have that stupid light that goes off when you grunt. 


hahaha
I'm determined to get a guest pass to PF and make the alarm go off.   ;D

I know Mike Katz pretty well...he's a legend and an all-around great guy.  I love and respect the man very much.  He does sooooo much for bodybuilding, from promoting shows, to judging, to guest appearances, helping people out, etc.  Yet he owns a Planet Fitness (maybe more than one?) in CT, and it continues to boggle my mind how/why.  They must be really really good investments...which also boggles my mind. 

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« Reply #1361 on: January 16, 2008, 10:05:14 AM »

hahaha
I'm determined to get a guest pass to PF and make the alarm go off.   ;D

I know Mike Katz pretty well...he's a legend and an all-around great guy.  I love and respect the man very much.  He does sooooo much for bodybuilding, from promoting shows, to judging, to guest appearances, helping people out, etc.  Yet he owns a Planet Fitness (maybe more than one?) in CT, and it continues to boggle my mind how/why.  They must be really really good investments...which also boggles my mind. 



A well ran gym is a great business venture. I am sure Mike has much more integrety than this clown.

Even if they did not ask me to not come back, revoke membership, etc, I was going to pull the old "3 day buyer remorse deal" and get my money back. I just wanted to mess with this owner and see the look on his face which was well worth it all...

Just throw on your bench shirt and grunt away. Hopefully the grunt light is around the benching area.  :D

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« Reply #1362 on: January 16, 2008, 03:09:27 PM »
Is The "Grunt Light"  ::)  automated, or do they need to bust you?

This is pathetic...  ;D

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« Reply #1363 on: January 16, 2008, 04:26:49 PM »
Is The "Grunt Light"  ::)  automated, or do they need to bust you?

This is pathetic...  ;D

I'm pretty sure they turn it on.  I haven't been there before as there is none around me, but that is the impression I get from news clips I've seen on it.  Yet their motto is "a judgement free zone".    ???

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« Reply #1364 on: January 16, 2008, 04:42:36 PM »
Rimmy, you look a lot differant with that hair cut.

For some reason I keep it shorter in the winter & longer/shaggier in the summer. Go figure. Actually I went clean shaven for awhile to...a brief while.

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« Reply #1365 on: January 19, 2008, 09:34:26 AM »
Sorta kinda...the farting was exagerated, not that loud but stinkey....but yeah, got kicked out. Kinda did it on purpose..long story, but found out the guy that owns it ran another gym back in the day and screwed me out of a bunch of money. I had a PT business in a gym that he closed down in the middle of the night. He screwed over a lot of people and legally me and the other trainers could not recoup our money.

I joined when he was not there. Made sure to train that day when he was. It was more of a revenge deal but they really do have that stupid light that goes off when you grunt. 

So how was that revenge?  He kicked you out of the gym?  i don't get it.

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« Reply #1366 on: January 19, 2008, 06:13:19 PM »

Sorry to break up the "grunting police" thread....

Just needed a sounding board and perhaps a few of you could give me your thoughts, good or bad.

Some of you know I'm a personal trainer, have been for about eighteen months now.

I've been very liberal with my clients and we discuss many things, often issues of a personal matter during training.

Though it's discouraged, I've dated a few women I've trained (on the DL) and up until this point it hasn't been issue.....

.....until Suzanne.

She was an RN, outpatient nurse.

Slightly built, model-like figure, gorgeous hazel eyes, dark hair and creamy pale skin.  A mixture of Greek and Danish ancestry, she looked unique. 

She was reserved, quiet, open, honest.....all good qualities.

She chose me as a trainer and we began to have a discourse while I trained her.

I didn't find her attractive at first because her hair was dyed blond, which changed her whole look.

She did this at the behest of her husband, whom I would hear about for months to come.

She told me the intimate details of their boring sex life, his premature ejaculation issues pretty much killed her ability to orgasm combined with the fact that he was very vanilla (sexually) and not very good at it either.

He is one of these religious zealots who doesn't masturbate (religious reasons) and can only get off through intercourse (whether she wants it or not).

She had stopped believing in their religion a long time ago and this was one of many reasons she had left him for extended periods in the past.

She'd left him, considered divorce/separation, though never cheated on him.

Until me.....

It started harmlessly, when she gave me her number and asked me to call her if I had any earlier openings than her customary 7:00 am slot.

I called her, gave her the info and that was that.

Our conversations continued at the gym and things were just copacetic.

Then.........she called me on a Friday night and asked to meet me outside of the gym.

I asked "why", she said she wanted to meet me in another setting.

Again, I asked "why".....

Then she started whining (how women whine when they become impatient) and I agreed to meet her.

.........this was the point of no return for me, for us.

I knew she was married, albeit unhappily, and that this was way over the line, yet I just didn't catch myself or think about it.

I really did wonder what she wanted from me.

I was open to being friends, but wasn't comfortable with sex.

A dark night, about 8pm.....the park, the parking lot.

I got in her BMW and we talked for awhile.

Pheromones are a dangerous thing and it was obvious that there was mutual attraction.

She'd let her hair go back to it's natural dark brown color as I'd suggested a month before and that night I found out just how thick that hair can get.  Greek women, that thick hair they have, she had a bush that was off the chain (for those of you who know I like it thick). 

The bottomline that night was that I gave her an orgasm (manually), the first one she'd had in quite awhile from a man.  Her husband just wasn't able, which she detailed afterward ad nauseum.  Because of his premature ejaculation issues, he had to masturbate her with a dildo just to get her off, he couldn't eat pussy and he never wanted anal.

After I tasted her for the first time, I realized that this was dangerous for both of us.

She wanted to come over to my apartment that night, and I held back, told her to be patient as I wasn't sure I wanted to go deeper with her.

Over the proceeding few weeks she pressed and asked and bemoaned the fact that I wouldn't let her in my apartment.

We met at the park, mostly, had lunch during my break and laid together under the shade.

This happened numerous times and you don't realize how close you become to someone just by being around them.

Between us it was as much romantic as purely sexual. 

I liked her, she liked me.

I think it was apparent (looking back now) that she'd decided beforehand she wanted sex with me.

I was the patient one and I really found it ironic that a woman was pressing me for "something".

I don't remember when, exactly, but after about two weeks of this, I relented and above my warning that the apartment was a mess, she came over.

It was a night during the week and I was watching ESPN, drinking Merlot, which she had a glass of.

I was "OK", but the alcohol makes her tipsy....small girl.

She started climbing on me like a cat, kissing me, getting in to me and as much self-restraint as I have.......it was too tempting and too delicious.

I took off her clothes, led her to the bedroom........

There was no time for foreplay.....all I remember of the sex was opening the Trojan wrapper, that familiar warm feeling, the comfort when I was inside her, then the reverberation of her ass tight up against me while I pounded her doggy.  Her skin was so pale, she glowed in the dark.  The sex was hard, rough and her moaning was all I needed as motivation to keep going.

That was the first time......

There were many more times thereafter.

Afternoon, night.......morning once.

Things were moving fast.

She asked me if I'd eventually give her a key.  (A key?  ???)

She left a bag with all her haircare/femmenine products in my apartment.

She left a pair of clothes to change in to as well.

She left alot of that thick Greek hair as well.   :P

Then came the questions....

Would you get a vasectomy?

Do you want kids or not?

Things you ask someone you're dating when you're SINGLE, not MARRIED.

I suppose she was looking forward to me as a prospect after, but I really can't be sure what she was thinking.

We had sex so many times, even that aspect of our relationship was progressing.  I knew the ins and outs of her body by heart. 

I was the first to introduce her to anal.

Little did I know that I was becoming attached.......not to the sex, but to her as a woman.

Yes, I know many of you will wonder how I could ever want a relationship with a woman who was cheating on her husband with ME.  How could I ever trust her in a relationship?

I don't know.  I just knew I was getting in too deep. 

Things slowed down around Thanksgiving as she had family over from out of state and couldn't get away.

I really started to question myself, ask if any of this was worth it not to mention the fact that I was starting to care for this woman.

Late November she decided to give her husband another chance, and was trying to juggle both me and him sexually.

When she told me about this, I refused to share her sexually, ending that aspect of the relationship.

Not at first, though, we still had sex several more times....each time with her saying "this is the last time..."

I didn't believe her and by that time I was not in the mood for the back and forth bullshit.

I'm not sure what her thinking was.

I told her that if she was indeed going to "renew her commitment to her husband", I wanted sex with her one final time, that Thursday.

She came over on Wednesday afternoon right before I had to leave for work.

No idea why, as there was no time for sex or anything really....

She wanted to spent time with me or see me, but I didn't understand why (though I think I do now).

I was disappointed in her cutting me off, going back to the husband after we'd done so much.

I was gradually weaning myself off of her.

On that fateful day, Thursday, I remember she called me about the time I had to go to work.

Don't remember the conversation, until the end when I asked her whether she was coming over or not.

"I'm not going to ask you again, Suzanne......"

She said......"OK", with a loud sigh and that was the last I spoke with her.

 ........until about a week ago.

She called me to ask about whether I'd ever been STD tested, because she'd developed a sore on her upper leg (about a month and a half after the last we'd had any sexual contact), to which I said no.

I'm not promiscuous and outside of this, I really only have sex in relationships so hearing about this was a shock to me.

She was going in for bloodwork on Monday and I arranged to meet her at the lab so we could have some time to talk.

Turns out that about three weeks after she stopped having sex with me to "renew her marriage vows", her and husband had "the final argument" leading to her moving out and getting an apartment, filing for separation.

When I heard that, I was disappointed, upset and wondering why she hadn't contacted me earlier.

Evidently, sometime during the time she was away from me her old boyfriend from high school (married unhappily) had contacted her, found her and they had begun seeing each other.

No sex yet, but they'd made out and she told me she wasn't looking for anything serious.

I made it clear to her that during our meeting that I wanted a chance at a relationship with her now that she was separated.

Of course, she said no, due to her coming out of the marriage which I do understand.

What I don't understand is her ability to go from me to another guy in a matter of a couple months.

It seems almost like she figured I'd written her off, moved on and replaced me with the very next guy who came long.

So, bottomline.......I got an STD test on Tuesday for her benefit because I seriously doubt I have anything.

She said that she wouldn't consider me for a longterm relationship because we have too many differences and she needs to think of her kids first, which I understand.

I asked her if we could remain friends, despite everything and she is considering it, pending the results of the STD test.

I don't even know if a friendship would work between us, probably too much sexual chemistry.

What I want to know is HOW I got so attached to a woman with so much baggage, issues when it's never happened before.

If I could explain the qualitlies she possesses in words, I would.....

Those of you who are married/involved with a woman you adore, the kind you dream of, would understand those qualities I'm talking about.

Classic beauty, quiet serene sense of grace.  A good mother.  A nice woman.  Not to mention the sexual chemistry.

My better judgement has been disabled throughout this whole thing and if it was on, it would tell me to forget about her and appreciate the time we had.

I just can't help feeling that I'm missing out on something "good" simply by being with her.

Despite all my better judgement, I'm still considering a relationship with her down the road if it becomes available.

As I look back on the times we had......the many nights.......the way we worked well together when we were just "together" (sexually or not), I long for that kind of closeness with a woman.

In this world, you don't get many opportunities to meet someone who works for you in the most important of ways and I feel (despite the obstacles) she is one who works.

I'm not someone who "needs" a relationship, never have, but I also realize that there are only so many chances.

That's basically where I am now.

I never would have believed I'd be in this position.........EVER.

I met the ideal woman for me, someone else's soon to be ex-wife, mother of three kids, a woman who cheated on her husband with me.........yet I can't get over her.

Regardless of whether you like me or not, please read my words and give me some insight if you can.

I need a voice, I need some thoughts.

Even if you want to condemn me for fucking a married man's wife, at least give me something.

This is all new to me.......and I'm not liking it.

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« Reply #1367 on: January 19, 2008, 06:51:46 PM »
Sorry to break up the "grunting police" thread....

Just needed a sounding board and perhaps a few of you could give me your thoughts, good or bad.

Some of you know I'm a personal trainer, have been for about eighteen months now.

I've been very liberal with my clients and we discuss many things, often issues of a personal matter during training.

Though it's discouraged, I've dated a few women I've trained (on the DL) and up until this point it hasn't been issue.....

.....until Suzanne.

She was an RN, outpatient nurse.

Slightly built, model-like figure, gorgeous hazel eyes, dark hair and creamy pale skin.  A mixture of Greek and Danish ancestry, she looked unique. 

She was reserved, quiet, open, honest.....all good qualities.

She chose me as a trainer and we began to have a discourse while I trained her.

I didn't find her attractive at first because her hair was dyed blond, which changed her whole look.

She did this at the behest of her husband, whom I would hear about for months to come.

She told me the intimate details of their boring sex life, his premature ejaculation issues pretty much killed her ability to orgasm combined with the fact that he was very vanilla (sexually) and not very good at it either.

He is one of these religious zealots who doesn't masturbate (religious reasons) and can only get off through intercourse (whether she wants it or not).

She had stopped believing in their religion a long time ago and this was one of many reasons she had left him for extended periods in the past.

She'd left him, considered divorce/separation, though never cheated on him.

Until me.....

It started harmlessly, when she gave me her number and asked me to call her if I had any earlier openings than her customary 7:00 am slot.

I called her, gave her the info and that was that.

Our conversations continued at the gym and things were just copacetic.

Then.........she called me on a Friday night and asked to meet me outside of the gym.

I asked "why", she said she wanted to meet me in another setting.

Again, I asked "why".....

Then she started whining (how women whine when they become impatient) and I agreed to meet her.

.........this was the point of no return for me, for us.

I knew she was married, albeit unhappily, and that this was way over the line, yet I just didn't catch myself or think about it.

I really did wonder what she wanted from me.

I was open to being friends, but wasn't comfortable with sex.

A dark night, about 8pm.....the park, the parking lot.

I got in her BMW and we talked for awhile.

Pheromones are a dangerous thing and it was obvious that there was mutual attraction.

She'd let her hair go back to it's natural dark brown color as I'd suggested a month before and that night I found out just how thick that hair can get.  Greek women, that thick hair they have, she had a bush that was off the chain (for those of you who know I like it thick). 

The bottomline that night was that I gave her an orgasm (manually), the first one she'd had in quite awhile from a man.  Her husband just wasn't able, which she detailed afterward ad nauseum.  Because of his premature ejaculation issues, he had to masturbate her with a dildo just to get her off, he couldn't eat pussy and he never wanted anal.

After I tasted her for the first time, I realized that this was dangerous for both of us.

She wanted to come over to my apartment that night, and I held back, told her to be patient as I wasn't sure I wanted to go deeper with her.

Over the proceeding few weeks she pressed and asked and bemoaned the fact that I wouldn't let her in my apartment.

We met at the park, mostly, had lunch during my break and laid together under the shade.

This happened numerous times and you don't realize how close you become to someone just by being around them.

Between us it was as much romantic as purely sexual. 

I liked her, she liked me.

I think it was apparent (looking back now) that she'd decided beforehand she wanted sex with me.

I was the patient one and I really found it ironic that a woman was pressing me for "something".

I don't remember when, exactly, but after about two weeks of this, I relented and above my warning that the apartment was a mess, she came over.

It was a night during the week and I was watching ESPN, drinking Merlot, which she had a glass of.

I was "OK", but the alcohol makes her tipsy....small girl.

She started climbing on me like a cat, kissing me, getting in to me and as much self-restraint as I have.......it was too tempting and too delicious.

I took off her clothes, led her to the bedroom........

There was no time for foreplay.....all I remember of the sex was opening the Trojan wrapper, that familiar warm feeling, the comfort when I was inside her, then the reverberation of her ass tight up against me while I pounded her doggy.  Her skin was so pale, she glowed in the dark.  The sex was hard, rough and her moaning was all I needed as motivation to keep going.

That was the first time......

There were many more times thereafter.

Afternoon, night.......morning once.

Things were moving fast.

She asked me if I'd eventually give her a key.  (A key?  ???)

She left a bag with all her haircare/femmenine products in my apartment.

She left a pair of clothes to change in to as well.

She left alot of that thick Greek hair as well.   :P

Then came the questions....

Would you get a vasectomy?

Do you want kids or not?

Things you ask someone you're dating when you're SINGLE, not MARRIED.

I suppose she was looking forward to me as a prospect after, but I really can't be sure what she was thinking.

We had sex so many times, even that aspect of our relationship was progressing.  I knew the ins and outs of her body by heart. 

I was the first to introduce her to anal.

Little did I know that I was becoming attached.......not to the sex, but to her as a woman.

Yes, I know many of you will wonder how I could ever want a relationship with a woman who was cheating on her husband with ME.  How could I ever trust her in a relationship?

I don't know.  I just knew I was getting in too deep. 

Things slowed down around Thanksgiving as she had family over from out of state and couldn't get away.

I really started to question myself, ask if any of this was worth it not to mention the fact that I was starting to care for this woman.

Late November she decided to give her husband another chance, and was trying to juggle both me and him sexually.

When she told me about this, I refused to share her sexually, ending that aspect of the relationship.

Not at first, though, we still had sex several more times....each time with her saying "this is the last time..."

I didn't believe her and by that time I was not in the mood for the back and forth bullshit.

I'm not sure what her thinking was.

I told her that if she was indeed going to "renew her commitment to her husband", I wanted sex with her one final time, that Thursday.

She came over on Wednesday afternoon right before I had to leave for work.

No idea why, as there was no time for sex or anything really....

She wanted to spent time with me or see me, but I didn't understand why (though I think I do now).

I was disappointed in her cutting me off, going back to the husband after we'd done so much.

I was gradually weaning myself off of her.

On that fateful day, Thursday, I remember she called me about the time I had to go to work.

Don't remember the conversation, until the end when I asked her whether she was coming over or not.

"I'm not going to ask you again, Suzanne......"

She said......"OK", with a loud sigh and that was the last I spoke with her.

 ........until about a week ago.

She called me to ask about whether I'd ever been STD tested, because she'd developed a sore on her upper leg (about a month and a half after the last we'd had any sexual contact), to which I said no.

I'm not promiscuous and outside of this, I really only have sex in relationships so hearing about this was a shock to me.

She was going in for bloodwork on Monday and I arranged to meet her at the lab so we could have some time to talk.

Turns out that about three weeks after she stopped having sex with me to "renew her marriage vows", her and husband had "the final argument" leading to her moving out and getting an apartment, filing for separation.

When I heard that, I was disappointed, upset and wondering why she hadn't contacted me earlier.

Evidently, sometime during the time she was away from me her old boyfriend from high school (married unhappily) had contacted her, found her and they had begun seeing each other.

No sex yet, but they'd made out and she told me she wasn't looking for anything serious.

I made it clear to her that during our meeting that I wanted a chance at a relationship with her now that she was separated.

Of course, she said no, due to her coming out of the marriage which I do understand.

What I don't understand is her ability to go from me to another guy in a matter of a couple months.

It seems almost like she figured I'd written her off, moved on and replaced me with the very next guy who came long.

So, bottomline.......I got an STD test on Tuesday for her benefit because I seriously doubt I have anything.

She said that she wouldn't consider me for a longterm relationship because we have too many differences and she needs to think of her kids first, which I understand.

I asked her if we could remain friends, despite everything and she is considering it, pending the results of the STD test.

I don't even know if a friendship would work between us, probably too much sexual chemistry.

What I want to know is HOW I got so attached to a woman with so much baggage, issues when it's never happened before.

If I could explain the qualitlies she possesses in words, I would.....

Those of you who are married/involved with a woman you adore, the kind you dream of, would understand those qualities I'm talking about.

Classic beauty, quiet serene sense of grace.  A good mother.  A nice woman.  Not to mention the sexual chemistry.

My better judgement has been disabled throughout this whole thing and if it was on, it would tell me to forget about her and appreciate the time we had.

I just can't help feeling that I'm missing out on something "good" simply by being with her.

Despite all my better judgement, I'm still considering a relationship with her down the road if it becomes available.

As I look back on the times we had......the many nights.......the way we worked well together when we were just "together" (sexually or not), I long for that kind of closeness with a woman.

In this world, you don't get many opportunities to meet someone who works for you in the most important of ways and I feel (despite the obstacles) she is one who works.

I'm not someone who "needs" a relationship, never have, but I also realize that there are only so many chances.

That's basically where I am now.

I never would have believed I'd be in this position.........EVER.

I met the ideal woman for me, someone else's soon to be ex-wife, mother of three kids, a woman who cheated on her husband with me.........yet I can't get over her.

Regardless of whether you like me or not, please read my words and give me some insight if you can.

I need a voice, I need some thoughts.

Even if you want to condemn me for fucking a married man's wife, at least give me something.

This is all new to me.......and I'm not liking it.

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Thanks for sharing man that was a very open portrayal of yourself. 

I loved a girl and for years we went back and forth being together and not.  There were qualities in her I wish I possessed at the time and I admired her very much, for her job, her independence, not to mention the very good sex we had.  I also feel I was attached to her because of similar life situations we were shared, both lost our fathers at an early age, both divorced, etc.

Thing is in reality she treated me poorly and was not on the same level as me as far as feelings for each other. I always thought if I just showed her how good I was and how well I treated her she would come around and see me for the great guy I am.  Well maybe she did but this did not matter and she still seeked other men.  This was hard for me to accept.  Thing is I kept letting her hurt me, I always kept thinking she would change.  Well she is still the same.  Certian people will affect you in strange ways, not sure why but Im guessing its some kind of projecting/transference on them, someting you feel may be missing in you.

We have gotten together as little as 4 months ago for sex and I have found that is really all she wants form me.  Thing is I just cant do it anymore, Iam too emotionally involved and it is just making me feel bad when we get together.  I have given up on her changing, after 5 years! And at this point its just best we do not see each other anymore.  Will admit there are times I think of her still and wish things could have been/worked out different.

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« Reply #1368 on: January 19, 2008, 07:01:24 PM »
Thanks for sharing man that was a very open portrayal of yourself. 

I loved a girl and for years we went back and forth being together and not.  There were qualities in her I wish I possessed at the time and I admired her very much, for her job, her independence, not to mention the very good sex we had.  I also feel I was attached to her because of similar life situations we were shared, both lost our fathers at an early age, both divorced, etc.

Thing is in reality she treated me poorly and was not on the same level as me as far as feelings for each other. I always thought if I just showed her how good I was and how well I treated her she would come around and see me for the great guy I am.  Well maybe she did but this did not matter and she still seeked other men.  This was hard for me to accept.  Thing is I kept letting her hurt me, I always kept thinking she would change.  Well she is still the same.  Certian people will affect you in strange ways, not sure why but Im guessing its some kind of projecting/transference on them, someting you feel may be missing in you.

We have gotten together as little as 4 months ago for sex and I have found that is really all she wants form me.  Thing is I just cant do it anymore, Iam too emotionally involved and it is just making me feel bad when we get together.  I have given up on her changing, after 5 years! And at this point its just best we do not see each other anymore.  Will admit there are times I think of her still and wish things could have been/worked out different.

Hurt2Luv,

Thanks for giving me some thoughts.....

The thing is, Suzanne doesn't just want me for sex, because we didn't have sex until months after I initially met her.

We were more intimate than anything else and that eventually led to sex.

She would even come over to sleep in my bed, just sleep.........some weekend mornings when she wanted comfort.

What I had with her felt like a snapshot of what a marriage or LTR would be with her.

It was comfortable, relaxing......felt good.

I miss that..........more than the sex, actually.   :-\



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« Reply #1369 on: January 19, 2008, 07:54:31 PM »
Hurt2Luv,

Thanks for giving me some thoughts.....

The thing is, Suzanne doesn't just want me for sex, because we didn't have sex until months after I initially met her.

We were more intimate than anything else and that eventually led to sex.

She would even come over to sleep in my bed, just sleep.........some weekend mornings when she wanted comfort.

What I had with her felt like a snapshot of what a marriage or LTR would be with her.

It was comfortable, relaxing......felt good.

I miss that..........more than the sex, actually.   :-\



DIV

Yeah i hear ya. The girl i talked about was much more than sex to ME.  She passed the "test" That is after sex do i still want to hang out with her?  And yes with this girl i did. Most i just want to go home and say goodbye.

Thing is she did not really hold me in such high regard.  She liked me but was I the "one?" not for her.

Please remember you are dating a woman who is on the rebound, they do not think clearly at this time.  They are looking to stop the pain and to be honest are not really facing their emotions.  People need time to deal with loss and if they don't grieve they will sooner or later.  This usually surfaces as depression and a unwillingness to commit.

Really bro I would say move on.  I think I have seen who Div really is and hes a nice guy(as much as he would not like to admit) who deserves better.

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« Reply #1370 on: January 19, 2008, 08:39:17 PM »
Yeah i hear ya. The girl i talked about was much more than sex to ME.  She passed the "test" That is after sex do i still want to hang out with her?  And yes with this girl i did. Most i just want to go home and say goodbye.

Thing is she did not really hold me in such high regard.  She liked me but was I the "one?" not for her.

Please remember you are dating a woman who is on the rebound, they do not think clearly at this time.  They are looking to stop the pain and to be honest are not really facing their emotions.  People need time to deal with loss and if they don't grieve they will sooner or later.  This usually surfaces as depression and a unwillingness to commit.

Really bro I would say move on.  I think I have seen who Div really is and hes a nice guy(as much as he would not like to admit) who deserves better.

I know I should move on, friends have said as much.

She isn't really on the rebound because she told me she's not looking for anything serious.

I was with her while she was still married..........she's separated now and has her own apartment.

The difference is, she stopped talking to me and is already seeing her high school sweetheart.

She also said I was the only guy other than her husband she's had sex with, but I'm starting to wonder.

Just alot of questions, bro.

I want to believe her, but friends I've talked to think she's just a pro who got what she wanted and moved on.


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« Reply #1371 on: January 19, 2008, 08:52:30 PM »
I know I should move on, friends have said as much.

She isn't really on the rebound because she told me she's not looking for anything serious.

I was with her while she was still married..........she's separated now and has her own apartment.

The difference is, she stopped talking to me and is already seeing her high school sweetheart.

She also said I was the only guy other than her husband she's had sex with, but I'm starting to wonder.

Just alot of questions, bro.

I want to believe her, but friends I've talked to think she's just a pro who got what she wanted and moved on.


DIV

Have to disagree she is big time on the rebound.  Please they dont deal with this in a couple months. Takes a while sometimes years for people to move on.  People keep bouncing around for a while.  If you feel for someone you sure do not want to be the transition guy.




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"Ooh baby love, my baby love
I need you, oh how I need you
But all you do is treat me bad
Break my heart and leave me sad
Tell me, what did I do wrong
To make you stay away so long

'Cause baby love, my baby love
Been missing ya, miss kissing ya
Instead of breaking up
Let's do some kissing and making up
Don't throw our love away
In my arms why don't you stay
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Why must we seperate, my love
All of my whole life through
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« Reply #1372 on: January 19, 2008, 08:57:05 PM »
Div, that is quite a story!

I don't condemn you for getting involved with a married women, but at the same time, regardless of the situation, I do not condone it...I can't off hand think of one single situation where I would.

Anyway, I could probably ramble on and on about this whole thing, but IMO, what L2H has said pretty much sums it up, and I agree with him on this completely.

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« Reply #1373 on: January 19, 2008, 09:02:30 PM »
I don't wanna break your sorority celebration but spilling your little broken heart on a juice board is pretty pathetic.

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« Reply #1374 on: January 19, 2008, 09:10:08 PM »
I don't wanna break your sorority celebration but spilling your little broken heart on a juice board is pretty pathetic.
Come on Captain Doucher, everyone knows that the "Locker Room" thread on this board is a thread for all the guys here to do whatever they want...to speak their mind on whatever might be the case. We do this because most on this section do not like posting too much on the other sections...since they are riddled with bullshit and any thing resembling thought is deemed homo, lol!