Kris Dim had a heart attack.

[willie mosconi]

I love your logic post about the real miracle about him NOT even having the attack, I have said the same kind of things and people get pissed off, but it makes sense to me.

I am however very sad for Kris Dim and his family at this time and thankful the man pulled thru. I wish him a long and healthy life with a speedy recovery.   How old is Kris?
Howard

he is apparently 33 or 34

[HowieW]

Goatboy has the answer.  This is a genetic weakness in the valve Kim mustve had since birth.  Ironic how Dim got all the physical genetics and none of the one's that would serve to keep him alive...........

I feel strongly that main idea and thoughts in this thread should be on Kris and any thoughts and prayers any may have for him and his family at this time. It is a lot different thought and emotional process when it is your loved one sitting inan ER bed with serious heart issue and life hangs by a thread.

None of us know for sure what casued this in Kris.
However, even if if BB drugs were  ONLY a part of the problem I hope to GOD the IFBB and other pros consider this ANOTHER wake up call and do something positive to help ensure the bodybuilders general health and welfare.

To kris and his family, rest assured many in the BB family and pulling for him tonight.
Sincerely, Howard

[Earl1972]

even if it is drug related his genetics played a large part

kris is half the size of alot of pros, which could mean he used far less drugs than others, and they aren't having heart attacks, atleast not yet

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[Matt C]

I got a whole lot of tests done in the fall to check for genetic ailments that would cause something like this and brought up John Ritter and the technician working said that testing would discover weak valves.  But he wasn't a specialist so I'm not 100% sure on that information.

[AVBG]

I got a whole lot of tests done in the fall to check for genetic ailments that would cause something like this and brought up John Ritter and the technician working said that testing would discover weak valves.  But he wasn't a specialist so I'm not 100% sure on that information.

Kris Dim's condition was genetic, and could have been picked up via a ECG or because of his muscle mass via trans esophageal examination..

[Stavios]

Idiot shouldn`t have been messing around with so many steroids.  If he would have been natural and never used, I can assure you this would have never happened.

Although I do think they should be legal for the simple fact that people should be able to whatever to themselves in the privacy of their own home, no matter how stupid or consequence of the action.

Also, this minimizes the gene pool prematurely which is good.  

Hopefully he doesn`t die and learns not to use steroids.  Only Science can save him. Nothing else.

Shut the fuck up you stupid asshole

[Matt C]

Kris Dim's condition was genetic, and could have been picked up via a ECG or because of his muscle mass via trans esophageal examination..

That's what I figured...this leads me to believe Kris never had such a test performed.  Why would any competitive bodybuilder not get a panel of testing done to look into stuff like this at least once?

[AVBG]

That's what I figured...this leads me to believe Kris never had such a test performed.  Why would any competitive bodybuilder not get a panel of testing done to look into stuff like this at least once?

If he had no symptoms or suspicion (which he probably didnt) that he's got a heart disorder (or defective aortic valve) there'd be no reason to have it fully checked out..Kris being a bodybuilder this type of abnormality would not have be picked up by a normal ECG but the other test I mentioned the "TOE", that would have found it but that's an extensive test that wouldn't be used unless there was a reason.

[240 is Back]

That's what I figured...this leads me to believe Kris never had such a test performed.  Why would any competitive bodybuilder not get a panel of testing done to look into stuff like this at least once?

We have what, 40 or 50 million Americans without health insurance?

that's 1/6 the population.

many pro Bbers fall into that 1/6, especially when you remember that many don't work 9 to 5 and many engage in destructive behavior.  If you asked many pros if they'd like to get a series of checkups, or a shipment of ___, and they got bills to pay and mouths to feed, most will take the short term success and figure they'll worry about that medical stuff *next year*.

[sgt. d]

Shut the fuck up you stupid asshole

lol

[gh15]

he is done with bodybuilding

150-160lb within the next 3-4 months

end

*predisposition that was taken to the next level by hormones and most likley pain killers!

[240 is Back]

he is done with bodybuilding
150-160lb within the next 3-4 months
end
*predisposition that was taken to the next level by hormones and most likley pain killers!

gh15, did you know him?

[sgt. d]

he is done with bodybuilding

150-160lb within the next 3-4 months

end

*predisposition that was taken to the next level by hormones and most likley pain killers!

JP you think so?

[gh15]

ofcourse i know him,,but thats not the point,,
the point is that you dont come back to bodybuilding,,,not naturally not clean and not on hormones after a heart failure and open heart surgery or any work that is done on your heart,,

his faith is sealed,,unless his wish is death

bodybuilding and lifting is over for him,,but its good hes alive

[Joey Tito]

ofcourse i know him,,but thats not the point,,
the point is that you dont come back to bodybuilding,,,not naturally not clean and not on hormones after a heart failure and open heart surgery or any work that is done on your heart,,

his faith is sealed,,unless his wish is death

bodybuilding and lifting is over for him,,but its good hes alive

Just a hunch, but I bet you're the "glass is half empty" kind of guy

[Honour]

Sad to hear, prayers for Kris and his family.

If he reads this hang in there mate, you still have your life and thats the main thing .

[The Coach]

ofcourse i know him,,but thats not the point,,
the point is that you dont come back to bodybuilding,,,not naturally not clean and not on hormones after a heart failure and open heart surgery or any work that is done on your heart,,

his faith is sealed,,unless his wish is death

bodybuilding and lifting is over for him,,but its good hes alive

I agree, bodybuilding is over for him, but not lifting, thats what will help keep him healthy.

[gh15]

Just a hunch, but I bet you're the "glass is half empty" kind of guy

its not that i see the half empty of nothing,,its that if he want to live long time he should stop bodybuilding and lifting,,maybe exercise for fun but no more of the hardcore or even softcore for him,,

look how fast matarazza dissapear off the radar,,,and matarazza used to be thie!! monster of all beasts,,
with dim it will be a lot faster,,

inother words,, his bodybuilding days are over and most likley no more lifting and in getting in the gym and squating 4 45 plates each side of the bar

it has nothing to do with seeing empty glassess,,it has a lot to do with seeing life

he will chose life over anything,,and so will any other sane person

[climber]

Also, this minimizes the gene pool prematurely which is good. 

Man, what an asshole you are saying that. Although, I don't agree.. This doesn't stop him having kids... maybe he'll settle down now and start concentrating on having kids.

[benchmstr]

its not that i see the half empty of nothing,,its that if he want to live long time he should stop bodybuilding and lifting,,maybe exercise for fun but no more of the hardcore or even softcore for him,,

look how fast matarazza dissapear off the radar,,,and matarazza used to be thie!! monster of all beasts,,
with dim it will be a lot faster,,

inother words,, his bodybuilding days are over and most likley no more lifting and in getting in the gym and squating 4 45 plates each side of the bar

it has nothing to do with seeing empty glassess,,it has a lot to do with seeing life

he will chose life over anything,,and so will any other sane person

agreed,and you have to remember the man has several kids to think about

bench

[sgt. d]

True Adonis is still mad because he didn't get a good physique with gear.

[The Coach]

its not that i see the half empty of nothing,,its that if he want to live long time he should stop bodybuilding and lifting,,maybe exercise for fun but no more of the hardcore or even softcore for him,,

Dude, if he recovers from this he will have no choice but to exercise, not for fun, but to live.....and that includes resistance workouts. You might understand "bodybuilding" and contest prep, but do really understand the health benefits of exercise and resistance training?

[timfogarty]

his faith is sealed,,unless his wish is death

fate

[The Coach]

True Adonis is still mad because he didn't get a good physique with gear.

Man, I don't know what it is with this guy, damn near everything he says is just waaaaaaaay off and completly wrong!!

[climber]

I hope other people pushing their bodies hard (on drugs or not) take this as a lesson. The human body has limits. I learnt my lesson a few years ago when I snapped my arm in an arm wrestle. 

Best wishes to Kris and I hope he fully recovers soon. Poor guy.