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aleksis:
Guys what u think all that stuff like aromasin, arimidex , letrozole cause hair loss???
Borracho:
Well, if using finasteride(dht inhibitor) can increase the chance of gyno on a test cycle....than using an anti-e must allow for a greater amount to be converted into dht which may lead to hair loss in predisposed individuals. I
may be wrong ....I'm just thinking out loud.
pellius:
--- Quote from: lyquid on October 17, 2011, 06:47:29 AM ---my father has same type of baldness. I have more of my mothers brother my uncle. The receding hairline and bald patch at back etc well I was getting it. I have pics. The changes have been dramatic to say the least.
but yea my father had the thinning all over just up to very thin tho and a slight widows peak.
the emu oil is a natural carrier and only thing natural I believe that penetrates all layers of skin taking whatever with it down with it. So putting spiro on with it may make spiro go systematic. I'd only assume it would. I sometimes do it tho. But I'd generally hit up spiro when I don't use emu oil. Such as emu oil every other night and spiro in mornings and afternoons or so on.
gotta remember spiro not only blocks dht and androgens alike but also increases estrogens topically. Only topically. Which is needed for hair growth. Its touted as the best item out there latly. But I've really seen best results with nizoral over night. Spiro is only a 4 hr active time I believe as well.
I'd say do the nizoral everyday to every other day. Ull see results. Than emu oil everyother or everynite. Its just messy is all the niz drys on instantly. Emu oil is messy. You must wipe down excess oil with towel or paper towel after. And the spiro I only really apply to temples now as a just in case. Spiro looks amazing on paper but I guess I never got to see what it could do on its own since I added it last when I alry had almost full regrowth. I'm pretty sure I'm 95 percent full regrowth. Hard to tell cause I believe my head n face has gotten bigger and makes it look like a tiny widows peak. My head has grown that's for sure from putting on alot of pounds.
remember if I did not mention I can't remember. The emu oil is abit essential since in men with androgen aplocea male patter baldness they all shared same characteristics. And one of them was very thin scalps. Not suitable for growth of hair and foicle life. And the emu oil has proven to increase skin thickness by 2.5x no lie its alot lol. So it def is needed. Treat skin thinness. Scalp dht and over all scalp androgens and inflamation and that's all you need. And nizoral and emu do all of that. And last would be spiro. Since nizoral I don't know for sure is either just dht blocker or total androgen blocker. Which hair doesn't like either high androgen or dht. So spiro blocks both dht ad androgens.
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Man, you are a wealth of knowledge. Thanks again. But.... still want to pick your brain more.
I figure the emu oil would be messy. I don't think I'd want to use it in the morning and go to work with oily hair. But if I'm using Nizoral at night (BTW, non of the stores have it any more. There's some prob with production and they're no making it anymore you can buy just what's left) and leaving it on. Can I then put the emu oil on? For me, both the Nizoral and emu has to be used at night. Can it be mixed together?
Another thing. I never heard of emu oil. How come it's not also used for facial wrinkles? It would seem to be ideal for that.
El Diablo Blanco:
--- Quote from: pellius on October 17, 2011, 12:42:09 PM ---Man, you are a wealth of knowledge. Thanks again. But.... still want to pick your brain more.
I figure the emu oil would be messy. I don't think I'd want to use it in the morning and go to work with oily hair. But if I'm using Nizoral at night (BTW, non of the stores have it any more. There's some prob with production and they're no making it anymore you can buy just what's left) and leaving it on. Can I then put the emu oil on? For me, both the Nizoral and emu has to be used at night. Can it be mixed together?
Another thing. I never heard of emu oil. How come it's not also used for facial wrinkles? It would seem to be ideal for that.
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Check out
http://www.amazon.com/Hair-Shampoo-Ketoconazole-Exfoliating-Penetration/dp/B004X34T4S
This shampoo has the Nizoral chemical in it plus emu oil, saw palmetto etc... Sounds pretty decent.
lyquid:
--- Quote from: pellius on October 17, 2011, 12:42:09 PM ---Man, you are a wealth of knowledge. Thanks again. But.... still want to pick your brain more.
I figure the emu oil would be messy. I don't think I'd want to use it in the morning and go to work with oily hair. But if I'm using Nizoral at night (BTW, non of the stores have it any more. There's some prob with production and they're no making it anymore you can buy just what's left) and leaving it on. Can I then put the emu oil on? For me, both the Nizoral and emu has to be used at night. Can it be mixed together?
Another thing. I never heard of emu oil. How come it's not also used for facial wrinkles? It would seem to be ideal for that.
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yes I would not put emu oil either in morning. I had great results as emu oil as my main dht blocker before bed every night. What I do now is either alternate. Or put the nizoral on first anytime at night time since it don't stink. Than after a few hours it dries than put emu oil on. Or like I said alternate each nite.
and nizoral being discountied never heard. I live in canada 2 percent is able to be bought anywhere without prescription. And I believe there is some dctor lee shampoo wth it in it as well.
I am still messing around with wht will work best myself since my hairloss can be sevre. I stop usng this stuff and on a cycle I will shed like no tomorrow and day by day you can see my hairline go back.
if not on steroids than I can go a few weeks and shed at a normal rate almost. But on the products and no steroids I am lucky to shed 4 hairs a day.
I say play around with it. Nizoral eod atleast keeping scalp sebum free. And emu oil eod maybe to or like I said later in the day. After the niz has dried in.
remember to wash the emu oil out in morning and nizoral eith conditoner. I use head n shoylders zinc shampoo and conditioner in one. Cause you don't wsnt the emu oil in there for a day straight as it is excess oil.
but there are some studies on how good again emu oil is at being proven to increase skin and hair dna sysnethsis by 20 percent.
I use to use it on my face . Now just can't bother hate having to wash my face so much its naturally oily.
but specially being older ud probably benefit from it greatly. Be looking 19 in no time lol. Skin thickness. Elasticity. Skin dna sysnethis I mean it really is the only proven product for anti skin ageing it seems.
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