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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Training Logs and Info => Topic started by: dj181 on April 30, 2013, 09:44:13 AM
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allright fellas, so i've decided to update this thing and continue on but this time with much better results, or at least i sure as hell hope so ;D
so, i'm ending Phase 2 on next tuesday and then i'll start the 3rd and final phase which will be to gain only lean muscle while staying ripped
my plan is to put on a good 5 kilo (11 pounds) of lean muscle tissue over the course of 3 or 4 months, so... LET'S DO THIS 8)
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allright fellas, so i've decided to update this thing and continue on but this time with much better results, or at least i sure as hell hope so ;D
so, i'm ending Phase 2 on next tuesday and then i'll start the 3rd and final phase which will be to gain only lean muscle while staying ripped
my plan is to put on a good 5 kilo (11 pounds) of lean muscle tissue over the course of 3 or 4 months, so... LET'S DO THIS 8)
Aren't you going to post new pics next week?
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Aren't you going to post new pics next week?
yep
and those will be the lean start pics
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I'M TUNING IN.......
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my lean gain cal plan will be to keep my daily cal level @ 2000-2200 i was eating roughly 1500-1700 cals for the last few weeks and it got me ripped, so i'll jump the cals slightly and see what happens
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just did a Jackson-Pollack 3 siter ie. pec, ab, thigh and it put me @ 3.8% :o :o :o
i'm not sub-4, but i am sub-6, and this will be clearly evident when the pics are posted up on weds 8)
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just did a Jackson-Pollack 3 siter ie. pec, ab, thigh and it put me @ 3.8% :o :o :o
i'm not sub-4, but i am sub-6, and this will be clearly evident when the pics are posted up on weds 8)
I thought it was Tuesday? Marine is at 3 he says.
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I thought it was Tuesday? Marine is at 3 he says.
lol
but marine's structure AND his muscle shape sucks, mine doesn't ;)
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i've been playing around with the cals the past few days, and 2600-2700 seems to be just a bit too much, so i'll try and keep the daily cals @ around 2200-2400
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alright
so i had the pics taken today and 2 of them will be posted here, 1 front relaxed and 1 back double bi
i can't configure it through my e-mail so i sent them to mr. n and he will post them up here once he gets them
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Here you go, I can see dj181 has made progress, I am honest in life if he had not made progress I would say so, judging all the people in the GB contest, I pissed alot of people off but dont play favorites. Send me one of those green tshirts 2X size .
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Here you go, I can see dj181 has made progress, I am honest in life if he had not made progress I would say so, judging all the people in the GB contest, I pissed alot of people off but dont play favorites. Send me one of those green tshirts 2X size .
hahaha!!!
yeah that green tee is ok ;D
btw, please post up one of the close-up back double bi shots brother
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good job i pm'ed u,,,so i tell it here too get on the lats,,delts are just right ,,and some arms..balance..
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Leaned out nice man...props.
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good job i pm'ed u,,,so i tell it here too get on the lats,,delts are just right ,,and some arms..balance..
thanks man 8)
but i want to make sure to put nearly all the added 10 pounds of muscle that I WILL PUT ON directly onto my arms and delts ;D ;D ;D
i love ya brother, but remember.... i am STUBBORN AS FUCK
Mr. Mentzer didn't call me The Wild Horse for nothing lol ;D
Leaned out nice man...props.
thanks ma man, and here is my goal, minus them bigass wheels and calves this cat has LOL!!!!
(http://images.wikia.com/lego/images/1/13/Classic-spider-man.jpg)
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and btw B, thank you for showing me the importance of "diet"
i love ya brother ;D
oh... and btw... protein IS over-rated, as i only averaged bout 110-120 grams of protein per day
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as far as my training goes, i think that i'm gonna become a bit of a pussy here and lighten up on the compounds (coz they are a fucking pain in the ass, and VERY UNPLEASENT) ie. the squat, row, push-up and just really focus on curls, laterals and kickbacks to really bring up the delts and arms 8)
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as far as my training goes, i think that i'm gonna become a bit of a pussy here and lighten up on the compounds (coz they are a fucking pain in the ass, and VERY UNPLEASENT) ie. the squat, row, push-up and just really focus on curls, laterals and kickbacks to really bring up the delts and arms 8)
4 WHAT U WANT/GOAL THAT WILL WORK...
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just had a very good delt workout as my lateral jumped up from 5 pounds with 3 added reps, so some new delt growth be coming my way soon 8)
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Hey dj ...
Do you get a dying urge to binge at your bf level and if so do you go through with it?
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Hey dj ...
Do you get a dying urge to binge at your bf level and if so do you go through with it?
honestly man, i get more of an urge to binge when i eat on drink sugary shit ie. coca-cola or sugary candy like gummie bears
and if i got real hungry i'd drink some strong black coffee with just a touch of sugar and i could even drink this at 1 am and then fall asleep before 3 am lol
so my biggest binge day was not even 3000 cals
not to sound like to much of an arrogant narcissistic prick, but... I AM VERY STRONG IN MY HEAD ;)
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honestly man, i get more of an urge to binge when i eat on drink sugary shit ie. coca-cola or sugary candy like gummie bears
and if i got real hungry i'd drink some strong black coffee with just a touch of sugar and i could even drink this at 1 am and then fall asleep before 3 am lol
so my biggest binge day was not even 3000 cals
not to sound like to much of an arrogant narcissistic prick, but... I AM VERY STRONG IN MY HEAD ;)
Yeah this is what I thought.
I don't see a guy like you going on epic 6-10k calorie binges as I'm capable of.
So...if and when you screw up on your diet would you have a time frame when you wanna have a little extra?
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Yeah this is what I thought.
I don't see a guy like you going on epic 6-10k calorie binges as I'm capable of.
So...if and when you screw up on your diet would you have a time frame when you wanna have a little extra?
honestly man, i fucking love being ripped so that's motivation enough for me to not go overboard with the cals
just this past week i went up to 2700-2800 cals a few days, and it started to piss me the fuck off coz i could just "feel" that i'm getting too fucking fat LOL!!!
i had a little chat with mr n bout this, and he told me that i need to be in a bit of a surplus now since i want to put on a bit of lean tissue on my delts and arms now and since i was on so low cals for bout 4 weeks or so (roughly 1600-1800 most days) so i've decided to @ around 2100-2300 cals now, and closer to 2300 cals most days
i'm not sure what my maintaince cal level is right now, but it's probably about 2100, i'd say
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honestly man, i fucking love being ripped so that's motivation enough for me to not go overboard with the cals
just this past week i went up to 2700-2800 cals a few days, and it started to piss me the fuck off coz i could just "feel" that i'm getting too fucking fat LOL!!!
i had a little chat with mr n bout this, and he told me that i need to be in a bit of a surplus now since i want to put on a bit of lean tissue on my delts and arms now and since i was on so low cals for bout 4 weeks or so (roughly 1600-1800 most days) so i've decided to @ around 2100-2300 cals now, and closer to 2300 cals most days
i'm not sure what my maintaince cal level is right now, but it's probably about 2100, i'd say
ahhaha yeah!!
I know what you mean about feeling like an absolute fatso. ;D
You've done really well...
Its a necessary sacrifice to give up the leanness for some size though.
You see how fast you were able to get shredded??? .....keep that in mind!
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ahhaha yeah!!
I know what you mean about feeling like an absolute fatso. ;D
You've done really well...
Its a necessary sacrifice to give up the leanness for some size though.
You see how fast you were able to get shredded??? .....keep that in mind!
but remember man... I AM VERY FUCKING STUBBORN
and please don't take it personal coz i don't mean it to be personal, but... i am very strongly convinced that I CAN add lean muscle tissue WITHOUT adding fat tissue VERY SURE OF IT, in fact
p.s. i know that you love how i CAP things ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!
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HAHAHAHAH I love this kid!!!!
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update pics will be comig y'alls way in LESS THAN 2 WEEKS
so expect to see some bigger arms and delts on the djer with the same tight and tiny waist ;)
also, i'm taking some modelling requests, so if you fellas got any just let me know
i'll most likely post up some pics of me in my green jamacia tee with the sleeves cut off which quite nicely display my pretty arms and delts 8)
like my grandmother used to sing to me as a child "i love me, i love me so, i took myself to the picture show" lol
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I think Phase 3 is over budget and past due penalities will occur whats the new target date?
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I think Phase 3 is over budget and past due penalities will occur whats the new target date?
as far as what?
finished product?
16 inch arms with 29 inch waist?
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as far as what?
finished product?
16 inch arms with 29 inch waist?
Yes what has has the date been moved out to?
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Yes what has has the date been moved out to?
if i really try very hard and do everything spot on I WILL reach the finished product by the end of july
but if i kinda fuck around a bit i'll reach the finished product by the end of october
finished product is.... 5'11" 170-175 @ sub-5 with 16 plus inch arms and waist @ 28-29
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if i really try very hard and do everything spot on I WILL reach the finished product by the end of july
but if i kinda fuck around a bit i'll reach the finished product by the end of october
finished product is.... 5'11" 170-175 @ sub-5 with 16 plus inch arms and waist @ 28-29
So we will hold you end of July. Whats taking so long Mentzer said you can reach your potential in a year.
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So we will hold you end of July. Whats taking so long Mentzer said you can reach your potential in a year.
honestly...
i'm scared that i won't continue to train hard once i reach my full potential
it's fun to make progress and see near daily positive changes to my physique but just holding and maintaining is kinda boring :-\
i guess that once i hit my full potential i can then focus on other things, like maybe getting a real career
i know that my girl kinda wants this from me and i don't blame her, coz if we are gonna truly be together then i should do my part in the relationship
but you know that i am "The Wild Horse" and i'm scared of getting trapped by a female, even if said female has a good soul and is worthy of trapping me ;D ;D ;D
i tell my babygirl that i'm not pretty enough for her, but she doesn't agree and now she's a bit nervous that she doesn't look good enough for me :-\ ???
relationships aren't easy man
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maybe i'll model this shirt for my next update pics...
wot ya tink fellas?
(http://www.denley.pl/eng_pl_BOLF-1728-6792_1.jpg)
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maybe i'll model this shirt for my next update pics...
wot ya tink fellas?
(http://www.denley.pl/eng_pl_BOLF-1728-6792_1.jpg)
Who is that fag I'll beat the piss out of him.
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you mean this one?
(http://www.denley.pl/eng_pl_ACS-0020-6941_2.jpg)
here's a new one, and it's FUCKING BOSS 8) 8) 8)
(http://www.denley.pl/eng_pl_JEEL-3047-CZARNY-10877_2.jpg)
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you mean this one?
(http://www.denley.pl/eng_pl_ACS-0020-6941_2.jpg)
here's a new one, and it's FUCKING BOSS 8) 8) 8)
(http://www.denley.pl/eng_pl_JEEL-3047-CZARNY-10877_2.jpg)
Yea thats the deal.
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alright, so maybe i'll do both, but i'll definately do the green cut off sleeve jamaica tee 8)
i think i'm up in weight bout 5-7 pounds already ;)
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alright dudes
after getting da push from mr. N i've set a deadline for me to max out my full potential (well maybe not 100% full, but at least 90-95%) and this deadline date is set for july 31st
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alright dudes
after getting da push from mr. N i've set a deadline for me to max out my full potential (well maybe not 100% full, but at least 90-95%) and this deadline date is set for july 31st
Ok we will hold you to this deadline.
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this is a pretty good pic actually
yeah i look like absolute horseshit here, but this pic really helps me to "see" that i really do need to add 10-15 pounds of lean muscle tissue to really complete myself
so will i do this by the end of july? only time will tell...
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We've all been telling you to focus on gaining for months you hard headed bastard. Time to put some meat on those bones.
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dj looking strong and in charge there.
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We've all been telling you to focus on gaining for months you hard headed bastard. Time to put some meat on those bones.
lol
you got me man, I AM STUBBORN AS FUCK >:( ;D
but i really have "seen the light" and now i'll add 10-15 pounds of LEAN MUSCLE WITHOUT FAT in a little over two months
MARK MY WORDS BROTHER ;)
p.s. update pics are a comin' next fucking week, and YES, I HAVE PUT ON MUSCLE WITHOUT FAT, as you will CLEARLY SEE in these update pics baby!
and now in dedication to me "seeing the light" 8) 8) 8)
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dj looking strong and in charge there.
then i woke up
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this is part of a pm that i sent somebody here, and i think that it's very important, so that's why i'm adding it here
we will see the diff in about a week and we will see if i just put the size on my arms and delts, or if i put the size EVERYWHERE
"i really hate to say this man, but roids really do work and i have even added size to my calves WITHOUT TRAINING THEM WOW!!!!!!!!!!
we will see how much bigger i am in about 1 week and honestly i think you will be shocked
p.s. i don't train calves, i train legs and chest moderately, and i don't train back
what i train very hard is biceps, triceps and delts
so these pics will be interesting, coz if my chest has grown just as much as my arms and delts has then this means that roids make training not so important"
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and more...
"we'll see just where i've added the most muscle
if it's based on weight increases it will be to my delts and tris and then a bit to bis and not so much to pecs
if.... increased training loads=muscle size"
as you can see from this post, my biggest training load increases were on delt and tri exercises and i increased bis a bit, but pecs increased only very slightly
so... if increased training loads really do equal bigger muscles then these pics will have me with more added size to my delts and tris, so we will see...
i'm really excited about this shit actually, coz these photos are gonna give me photographic proof/evidence that my training concepts/ideas are really true or not ie. increased training loads=muscle size
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and more...
"we'll see just where i've added the most muscle
if it's based on weight increases it will be to my delts and tris and then a bit to bis and not so much to pecs
if.... increased training loads=muscle size"
as you can see from this post, my biggest training load increases were on delt and tri exercises and i increased bis a bit, but pecs increased only very slightly
so... if increased training loads really do equal bigger muscles then these pics will have me with more added size to my delts and tris, so we will see...
i'm really excited about this shit actually, coz these photos are gonna give me photographic proof/evidence that my training concepts/ideas are really true or not ie. increased training loads=muscle size
Delts and triceps are ok, need more chest and legs.
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Delts and triceps are ok, need more chest and legs.
i need more everything lol
but actually man, my legs are quite ok and damn i got a nice round little ass on me :P (no homo)
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i need more everything lol
but actually man, my legs are quite ok and damn i got a nice round little ass on me :P (no homo)
lol... :-*...lunges ,,
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lol... :-*...lunges ,,
i've only been doing wide stance deep squats, and they seem to be working pretty well for me
in fact, my girl can't keep her hands off my ass while i'm doing her in the missionary style :P
maybe i'll add in a calf shot, as they are indeed better without even training them :o
my cousin put that side shot of me with my jeans down revealing the top of my hot ass on her mom's (my aunt's) phones screen saver, and my aunt WAS NOT amused ;D ;D ;D
tihis aunt is my aunt by marriage to my unlce and when he married her she was in her mid-20's and i was a 12 year old punkass at the time, and i had a huge ass lust/crush on her as she had a great fucking body :o and she used to wear these kinda short shorts and it drove me fucking nuts ;D ;D ;D
(http://netkill.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/dresscode.jpg?w=595)
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found a few BOSS jackets i may try and rock 8)
(http://www.denley.pl/eng_pl_RESPLENDENT-8859L-BRAZOWY-10146_3.jpg)
(http://www.denley.pl/eng_pl_SWEST-F22-9413_1.jpg)
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this is ma new BOSS training song 8)
come wednesday may 29th LOOK OUT! dj will be even better yeah! yeah! yeah! yeah! yeah!
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if my theory of INCREASED TRAINING LOADS=BIGGER MUSCLES is true, then....
my tris should have grown the most and my delts grown pretty good as well, and my bis somewhat, and my pecs not much
tricep training poundages have shot up the most
delt training poundages have gone up well
bi training poundages have increased a bit
pec training poundages have only gone up very slightly
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if my theory of INCREASED TRAINING LOADS=BIGGER MUSCLES is true, then....
my tris should have grown the most and my delts grown pretty good as well, and my bis somewhat, and my pecs not much
tricep training poundages have shot up the most
delt training poundages have gone up well
bi training poundages have increased a bit
pec training poundages have only gone up very slightly
IS WHAT IT IS,,,WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU TRY TO INCREASE LOADS OVER TOO LONG PERIOD TIME AND NO INCREASE IN STRENGHT OR SIZE AND THEN U END UP WITH SORE JOINTS WHICH IS WORSE,LOWER WEIGHT INCREAED VOLUME OR SUPERSETS AT TIME WILL SPURT GROWTH,,,
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IS WHAT IT IS,,,WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU TRY TO INCREASE LOADS OVER TOO LONG PERIOD TIME AND NO INCREASE IN STRENGHT OR SIZE AND THEN U END UP WITH SORE JOINTS WHICH IS WORSE,LOWER WEIGHT INCREAED VOLUME OR SUPERSETS AT TIME WILL SPURT GROWTH,,,
yep
but i am VERY CURIOUS to see where this added muscle that i have put on over these past 3 weeks has went, and this will be shown and evident on my update pics next week
and if i've gained as much on my chest and/or bis as i've gained on my tri and delts, then i will freely admit that my theory was wrong
my girl brings her scale today and i will see what i weigh now (i don't have my own scale ;D)
on the latest pics i weighed bout a buck 55 now i'd say that i'm bout a buck 60, and my ab skinfold is still @ 4 mm ;)
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yep
but i am VERY CURIOUS to see where this added muscle that i have put on over these past 3 weeks has went, and this will be shown and evident on my update pics next week
and if i've gained as much on my chest and/or bis as i've gained on my tri and delts, then i will freely admit that my theory was wrong
my girl brings her scale today and i will see what i weigh now (i don't have my own scale ;D)
on the latest pics i weighed bout a buck 55 now i'd say that i'm bout a buck 60, and my ab skinfold is still @ 4 mm ;)
8),,,YOUR ONLY ONLY GOING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE SO FAR ON BOTH SIZE/SCALE,,REMEMBER YOUR RECOUPING YOUR OLD FORM AND DOING WELL IN THE PROCESS BUT IT CAN GO ONLY SO FAR....
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8),,,YOUR ONLY ONLY GOING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE SO FAR ON BOTH SIZE/SCALE,,REMEMBER YOUR RECOUPING YOUR OLD FORM AND DOING WELL IN THE PROCESS BUT IT CAN GO ONLY SO FAR....
agreed
and that's why i set my final goal weight/size/stats @ 5'11" 170-180 @ sub-5 with LEGIT 16 inch arms
yes, i can DO IT 8)
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also, i'm finding out that i can eat bout 3000 cals per day and still make size gains without gaining fat 8)
once i'm sized out i'll probably have to go back down to 2500 or so, maybe....
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been playing around with the cals, and it appears that 3200-3500 is IDEAL pour moi 8)
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just 2 more days hommies 8)
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pics coming up in about 4 hours
LOOK OUT!!!!
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pics coming up in about 4 hours
LOOK OUT!!!!
We will be watching all the round watch tower.
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We will be watching all the round watch tower.
that tune sucks ass
this is wot da ladies be singing when they see me on da streets 8)
"i felt me eyes a staring that a guy who stuck out in the crowd
he had a body that would shame Adonis"
FUCK YEAH!!!!!
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there ya go fellas
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Good progress and looks like more vascularity. That smoking and drinking a bit of wine has helped.
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Good progress and looks like more vascularity. That smoking and drinking a bit of wine has helped.
lol
and i guess that the coke and weed helped as well
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i only need maybe 5 or 10 more pounds MAX
so i will be finished, or close enough by the end of july
and i'm thinking that once i finish up with the physique then i'll focus on getting back into bp comps
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i've been eating roughly 3500-4000 cals the last 10 days or so and i haven't really put on any weight
i'm rather shocked by this :o
maybe i have to go up to 5000 cals
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i've been eating roughly 3500-4000 cals the last 10 days or so and i haven't really put on any weight
i'm rather shocked by this :o
maybe i have to go up to 5000 cals
me too,and u do zero cardio right?no fat burners too I believe zero,,,dude u have a good conditioned,dry look,accomplished ,,add some wight/size gradually ,if u like that condition to remain,hard to grow that lean dude,,,u did great and I have no ill will to u,just relax on gossip board.your there just add...
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thanks nj, i appreciate the kind words :)
it's sure as hell that i'm a compulsive dude, but i'll try and put a bit of a lease on it man
and i hear ya about growing lean while keeping that condition but i'm a gonna try and do it, so we will see how it works out 8)
and yep, i did ZERO cardio and i took ZERO fat burners
my next experiment will be to load up on creatine monohydrate for 2 weeks straight (starting tomorrow or on sunday) and i will load it @ 20 grams taking 5 grams 4 times per day
also, i'm gonna add more volume into my training and do 2 exercises per bodypart (except i'll only do rows for back and squats for legs) but i'll do 2 exercises for delts, pecs, bis, and tris
i need to add about 15 pounds of lean muscle tissue
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thanks nj, i appreciate the kind words :)
it's sure as hell that i'm a compulsive dude, but i'll try and put a bit of a lease on it man
and i hear ya about growing lean while keeping that condition but i'm a gonna try and do it, so we will see how it works out 8)
and yep, i did ZERO cardio and i took ZERO fat burners
my next experiment will be to load up on creatine monohydrate for 2 weeks straight (starting tomorrow or on sunday) and i will load it @ 20 grams taking 5 grams 4 times per day
also, i'm gonna add more volume into my training and do 2 exercises per bodypart (except i'll only do rows for back and squats for legs) but i'll do 2 exercises for delts, pecs, bis, and tris
i need to add about 15 pounds of lean muscle tissue
Falcon says just eat some leaves or grass.
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thanks nj, i appreciate the kind words :)
it's sure as hell that i'm a compulsive dude, but i'll try and put a bit of a lease on it man
and i hear ya about growing lean while keeping that condition but i'm a gonna try and do it, so we will see how it works out 8)
and yep, i did ZERO cardio and i took ZERO fat burners
my next experiment will be to load up on creatine monohydrate for 2 weeks straight (starting tomorrow or on sunday) and i will load it @ 20 grams taking 5 grams 4 times per day
also, i'm gonna add more volume into my training and do 2 exercises per bodypart (except i'll only do rows for back and squats for legs) but i'll do 2 exercises for delts, pecs, bis, and tris
i need to add about 15 pounds of lean muscle tissue
CREATINE AT LEAST WILL FILL IN SOME WATER GAIN EVEN TEMPORARY AROUND THAT DRY SHAPE UR IN,,U COULD BE SUPRISED WITH THE VOLUME IT CREATES,OR IT MIGHT BLOAT U TOO OR DULL CONDITION A TAD BUT I DOUB'T IT UR RIPPED TO THE BONE ,,USE OLD SKOOL POWDER NOTHING FANCY WIYH UNNESSARY SUGARS TO BIND IT,,,CREATINE /TAURINE/LEUCINE IS GOOD COMBO TO PLAY WITH,,
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CREATINE AT LEAST WILL FILL IN SOME WATER GAIN EVEN TEMPORARY AROUND THAT DRY SHAPE UR IN,,U COULD BE SUPRISED WITH THE VOLUME IT CREATES,OR IT MIGHT BLOAT U TOO OR DULL CONDITION A TAD BUT I DOUB'T IT UR RIPPED TO THE BONE ,,USE OLD SKOOL POWDER NOTHING FANCY WIYH UNNESSARY SUGARS TO BIND IT,,,CREATINE /TAURINE/LEUCINE IS GOOD COMBO TO PLAY WITH,,
so what's the story with taurine and leucine? what do they do exactly?
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so what's the story with taurine and leucine? what do they do exactly?
Amino Acids these two help push nutrients in to the cells.
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Amino Acids these two help push nutrients in to the cells.
so if i find a product that combines all 3 them in one, then i'm good to go, yes?
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so if i find a product that combines all 3 them in one, then i'm good to go, yes?
DEPENDS SOME HAVE ALL OR CREA/TAUR AND U HAVE TO ADD LEUCINE,OR GET ALL 3 SEPERATE AND STRETCH IT OUT LAST LONGER AND CSAVE $$$$
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Never been too impressed with supplements, but Creatine works very well with just about everyone. From athlete's , lifters & BB'ers. Even advise it's use for older (55 and up) trainee's. Don't have to load it up any more, if using a quality blend. If you do, than go slowly at first with maybe a scoop the first day, working your way up from there. Some can get a bad reaction with stomach cramps and diarrhea...sometime headaches. If taking 4 scoops a day, try spacing them out. Might have a scoop before a workout (30 minutes or so) and another scoop right after a workout, mixed with whey protein. Bad news for some is that Creatine contains carbs. Suggest drinking more water than usual with Creatine use. Meat gives a natural source of Creatine.
Amino Acids can be outstanding. After all, all the protein people get is broken down into Amino Acids for use by the body cells. Can buy liquid, powder or cap forms of Amino Acid. Suggest the liquid form for easier assimilation into the muscle cells. Amino's (20 in the family chain...no muscle grow without them) feeds the muscle cell very well. Good Luck.
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this pic here is from my other previous peak time
in this pic i weigh 154 which is exactly what i weigh now
what's very interesting is that now my arms are 15 1/4 inches and back then they were 14 1/3 inches
so i'm at same weight but leaner now, and.... I HAVE BIGGER ARMS AND DELTS 8) 8) 8)
but my pecs and lats are smaller nowadays :-X :-X :-X
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=329967.0;attach=494354;image)
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just took measurements and here they are
ARMS=39 cm (15 1/3 inches)
LO PEC (nipple level)=103 cm (40 1/2 inches)
HI PEC (right under arms)=113 cm (44 1/2 inches)
i'd like to have 17 inch arms but i'll probably have to settle for 16 inches
and i'd like 50 inch hi pecs, but i'll probably have to settle for 48 inches
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Why are you so concerned with numbers? Zane never got measured on stage but was one of the best.
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Why are you so concerned with numbers? Zane never got measured on stage but was one of the best.
because it gives me quantifyable data
and it's a very typical thing for fellas with Germanic minds ;D
remember, NASA was created by German scientists and how about the German precision driving machines of BMW and Mercedes ;)
look man, if i have 15 inch arms @ 5% and then i have 16 inch arms @ 5% then i know for sure that my arms have increased lean muscle mass, right?
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dj181
Forgetting that German minds lost two major world war's, which were theirs to win. Underestimating the enemy and over estimating their own abilities, in both cases, became their greatest flaw. No stretch of the imagination to think that England would be speaking German today. Most world historians agree. Arrogance clouded their leaders wonderful minds. Wonder how many German babies, born after 1944, have American and British DNA?
NASA had included German scientists (Von Braun, etc...for the secret Paperclip operation), but German scientists did not create NASA. Also quite a few top Jewish scientist help establish NASA. The U.S. government created NASA.
Audi is one of the top of the line German products. Mercedes-Benz a close second. BMW has drooped quite a bit, in rating, in recent years. The Swedish Saab and Volvo are still among top of the line engineered machine.
If you can't get those gun's up to 16 1/2 and chest to 48" (both measurements taken cold),keeping the same waist size, or even smaller, within a year (or less) the whole training protocol you have been following will need a totally new approach.
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you do realize that "our" great leaders during WW2 were German-Americans ;D ;D ;D
ie. Patton, Eishenhower, Roosevelt are all GERMANIC surnames ;)
not to mention that WASP's are actually Germans and Danes ;D ;D ;D
but speaking of my size goals it would be great if i could get 16 1/2 inch arms and a 28 inch waist (as my waist is 29 1/4 inches at the moment)
but remember that my wrist only measures 6 inches, so a 16 1/2 inch conditioned and ripped arm with 6 inch wrists ain't too shabby
my hi chest has measured 46 1/2 inches before, so i think that a 48 inch hi chest is doable for me but i'm not so sure about 16 1/2 inch arms though...
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Actually Gen. Patton was of Scot-Irish & English stock. Born in San Marino, Ca (local SoCal boy). Eisenhower was of German stock, from Kansas. Roosevelt was of Dutch stock. Never go by surnames, can be very misleading here in America. Was a former pro football player with the name of Donovan McNabb. Scottish, Irish?.... no, he was black. Remember that Hitler called America a mongrel nation and would never be any good if in a war.
WASP (White Anglo Saxon Protestant) are considered from a English blood line, for the most part. Anglo is the older word for people of the British Isles. Saxon, of course, are rooted in northern France. But after 1066 ad (Battle of Hastings), blended with the native English blood. Because the took over that country.
Your wrist measurement would certainly suggest a small bone frame. Zane had a smaller frame also. I would still believe that a 16 1/2 arms could be within your potential, judging by your photo anyway. That once 46 1/2 chest measurement could be the first clue to any potential you may have. But you will have to attempted to gain more pure muscle mass. Not to be critical, but recent picture of you show almost a unhealthy body. One that most men may not want to copy. Good Luck
Side Bar: just to note, most men who claim a 17 1/2 or 18" plus arm are really in the 16 1/2 to 17" range. Tend to pump up before the measurement. Want a true are measurement. than take it the first thing in the morning (no pump). And with a narrow steel tape. Want a really, really true arm measurement...take it first thing in the morning, with the arm hanging down, along side of the body. A real ego buster for most men.
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i just checked some local gyms and 2 of the gyms only had bells that went up to 90 pounds and the other gym had bells that only went up to 110 pounds
and thier machines had weight stacks that i could max out right now :-X :-X :-X
so basically the only reason to join would be to impress females with my ripped bod or to practice the bench if i decide to go back to competing in it
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i just checked some local gyms and 2 of the gyms only had bells that went up to 90 pounds and the other gym had bells that only went up to 110 pounds
and thier machines had weight stacks that i could max out right now :-X :-X :-X
so basically the only reason to join would be to impress females with my ripped bod or to practice the bench if i decide to go back to competing in it
I thought that was you was going to join anyway just to practice benching.
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I thought that was you was going to join anyway just to practice benching.
yeah i just gotta figure out which one to join as there are 5 or 6 here, but the 3 that i checked are really close to me, so i'll probably end up joining one of them
and then once i do some bp comps i can get my ass handed to me ;D ;D ;D
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yeah i just gotta figure out which one to join as there are 5 or 6 here, but the 3 that i checked are really close to me, so i'll probably end up joining one of them
and then once i do some bp comps i can get my ass handed to me ;D ;D ;D
bp competitions to prove what?especially at low bodyfat or what look ur going for,,,getting hurt is a chance,,
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bp competitions to prove what?especially at low bodyfat or what look ur going for,,,getting hurt is a chance,,
agreed
but i'm a bit of a macho dumbass, so i guess it kinda makes sense that i'd do it lol
but the thing is, i need to gain maybe 15 pounds of pure lean muscle tissue, because i've determined that a buck 70 @ a ripped and dry sub-5 is indeed my ideal bodywieght
right now i'm only bout a buck 55 or so
i've stopped training legs now, so who knows? maybe i can enter the wheelchair division LOL!
fuck legs! i want beautiful pecs, delts, arms, and abs
why? coz the sexyass females like this fucking LOVE this look
(http://data.whicdn.com/images/31860150/tumblr_m6agnlFGT31roc4mko1_500_large.jpg)
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basically 165-170 @ at ripped and dry sub-5 is IDEAL pour moi
and yeah i know you dudes will jump my shit for not training legs, but believe me, my legs won't wither away into nothing
the thing is... i still can't figure out what to do about back and lats ???
i suppose that i will just maintain them while jacking up my pecs, delts and arms
even my students are giving my very positive comments on my muscles and rippedness and it feels good man, feels good 8)
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agreed
but i'm a bit of a macho dumbass, so i guess it kinda makes sense that i'd do it lol
but the thing is, i need to gain maybe 15 pounds of pure lean muscle tissue, because i've determined that a buck 70 @ a ripped and dry sub-5 is indeed my ideal bodywieght
right now i'm only bout a buck 55 or so
i've stopped training legs now, so who knows? maybe i can enter the wheelchair division LOL!
fuck legs! i want beautiful pecs, delts, arms, and abs
why? coz the sexyass females like this fucking LOVE this look
(http://data.whicdn.com/images/31860150/tumblr_m6agnlFGT31roc4mko1_500_large.jpg)
That's not Tbombz.
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That's not Tbombz.
it sure ain't
but you can be DAMN SURE that she gets soaking wet panties for hot pecs, delts, arms, and abs ;)
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went ahead and joined the gym and did a chest and tri workout but i didn't play around on the bench
had a sleeveless shirt on and man i didn't fully realize just how fucking ripped and dry that i really am FUCK YEAH!!!
i wasn't the biggest guy there, but i was THE MOST CONDITIONED and i noticed some jelly looks form some of them fellas ;)
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so it looks like i'll do 2 exercises for bis and 2 exercises for tris and then just laterals for delts
but i'm not sure if i'll do 2 or 3 exercises for pecs and lats ???
i'm not too keen on building the lats up anymore, but who knows... maybe i will
for pecs i will do inclines and pec-deck, and maybe add in dips as well, still not sure yet....
for lats i will do rows and wide-grip pulldowns, and maybe add in chins as well....
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so it looks like i'll do 2 exercises for bis and 2 exercises for tris and then just laterals for delts
but i'm not sure if i'll do 2 or 3 exercises for pecs and lats ???
i'm not too keen on building the lats up anymore, but who knows... maybe i will
for pecs i will do inclines and pec-deck, and maybe add in dips as well, still not sure yet....
for lats i will do rows and wide-grip pulldowns, and maybe add in chins as well....
NOW WERE TALKING ,,WHY THE CHANGE BTW,,,
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NOW WERE TALKING ,,WHY THE CHANGE BTW,,,
guess coz i let the shitheads here psych me out a bit on my 3 week progress pic thread as they kept shouting anorexia in shit
now that i'm gonna hit torso properly i'll add 10 pounds in 3-4 weeks, just watch me ;)
also i like strutting around in this gym with my dense dry and rockhard muscles being clearly displayed for all to see... feels good man, feels good 8)
yea, there's a few bigger guys there, but i fucking smoke em on CONDITIONING 8) 8) 8)
and i'm gonna hit lats hard and even push legs just a bit ;)
so i'll add maybe 15 then ;D
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if i can hit legs properly i just may end up doing a men's classic physique show
here's the weight limits based on height, and since i'm 180 cm that means that i can step on stage @ 86 kg max, but quite honestly i think that i could mop the floor @ 80 kg 8)
There are three (3) categories in CLASSIC BODYBUILDING, currently as follows:
1
Up to and including 170 cm
Maximum weight (in kg) = height (in cm) – 100
(maximum +2 kg allowance)
e.g. a competitor who is 170 cm in height may weigh a
maximum of 72 kg
2 Up to and including 178 cm
Maximum weight (in kg) = height (in cm) – 100
(maximum +4 kg allowance)
e.g. a competitor who is 178 cm in height may weigh a
maximum of 82 kg
3 Over 178 cm
Maximum weight (in kg) = height (in cm) – 100
(maximum +6 kg allowance)
e.g. a competitor who is 184 cm in height
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guess coz i let the shitheads here psych me out a bit on my 3 week progress pic thread as they kept shouting anorexia in shit
now that i'm gonna hit torso properly i'll add 10 pounds in 3-4 weeks, just watch me ;)
also i like strutting around in this gym with my dense dry and rockhard muscles being clearly displayed for all to see... feels good man, feels good 8)
yea, there's a few bigger guys there, but i fucking smoke em on CONDITIONING 8) 8) 8)
and i'm gonna hit lats hard and even push legs just a bit ;)
so i'll add maybe 15 then ;D
up 3 kilos already, and my ab skinfold is still @ 4 mm 8)
pecs are thicker and lats are wider
today i'll hit some barbell squats
yea, maybe i'll head into classic bodybuilding and step on stage
tiny joints and GERMAN GENETICS FTMFW
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mate if you had Scottish Genetics then we are talking...about time you started hitting the muscles with more exercises. Take a leaf out Steve's Book...his workouts are solid and he is always in shape. You have the Genetics too and i think with some good workouts will see a big Change, you will never be as thick muscled as Steve(in my opinion, me neither) but you'll be Denser.
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well i'm planning on doing 2 exercises for chest and back and just 1 exercise for delts (laterals) and 1 for tris (pressdowns)
i'm not sure if i'll do 2 exercises for bis or just 1, if just 1 then it will be barbell curls
as far as legs go, i don't really have a fucking clue how i'll train them
mr. n recommended squats and leg curls, but maybe i'll just do squat or leg press
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i would do....
undergrip chins(lats,Biceps)
BB rows
Bench press flat
shoulder press BB or Incline press (if incline press side laterals for delts)
Incline curls for biceps
skull crushers triceps
Squats
Romanian Deadlifts
lunges
calves
i would concentrate on These exercises and rotate an upper lower split. Of course there are many things you can do....
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A good 3 Day split....
Back +chest (supersets)
Legs
shoulders+arms (arms supersets)
get some exercise variations in there and volume...then rest and eat good. This split is old but i like it because of the supersets and pump...no sweat if you miss your shoulder+arm day because they are covered in Back+chest day... ;)
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well i'm planning on doing 2 exercises for chest and back and just 1 exercise for delts (laterals) and 1 for tris (pressdowns)
i'm not sure if i'll do 2 exercises for bis or just 1, if just 1 then it will be barbell curls
as far as legs go, i don't really have a fucking clue how i'll train them
mr. n recommended squats and leg curls, but maybe i'll just do squat or leg press
YOU CAN NEVER GO WRONG WITH SQUATS,,USE SMITH MACHINE IF THEY HAVE IT.. U COULD CHANGE FEET POSITION,YOUR NARROW IN HIPS DON'T WORRY ABOUT EXPANDING LOL,,,CLOSE FEET WORKS A BIT OUTER HEADS AND PUT MASS TO HAMS TOO THIS WAY,LEGPRESS/HACKS TOO,EXTENSION 2/3 EXERCISES REP RANGE LOW SQUAT 6 HI END 12/15 ON PUMP DAY,LEG EXTENSION IS A MASS BUILDER TOO IF HEAVIER LOAD AGAIN 10/12 ON THOSE THO BUT HEAVY AND SQUEEZE .ANY LEG ACTIVITY WILL EXPAND BLOOD AND OXYGEN DUE TO TRAINING LOADS ,SO UPPER BODY GETS BENEFIT TOO ;),.....I'M IN UR CORNER DUDE,,
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YOUR NARROW IN HIPS DON'T WORRY ABOUT EXPANDING LOL,,,
ANY LEG ACTIVITY WILL EXPAND BLOOD AND OXYGEN DUE TO TRAINING LOADS ,SO UPPER BODY GETS BENEFIT TOO ;),.....I'M IN UR CORNER DUDE,,
look man, i troll here pretty hard and pretty often, but i'm dead serious when i say this...
i'm literally terrified that i'll spread out my hips and thicken and widen my waist by squatting (and even from doing leg press as well) and in fact i was with my girl last nite and i made a pact with her that she would tell me if my hips and waist started to get too thick and wide
i fucking hate this look of wide ass hips and waist FUCKING HATE IT!!!
one of the really cool things about my girl is that she keeps me focused on overall bodily proportions as this is important to her, and it's very good for me this influence she has with me in this regard :)
and thanks for being in my corner ma man ;D 8)
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look man, i troll here pretty hard and pretty often, but i'm dead serious when i say this...
i'm literally terrified that i'll spread out my hips and thicken and widen my waist by squatting (and even from doing leg press as well) and in fact i was with my girl last nite and i made a pact with her that she would tell me if my hips and waist started to get too thick and wide
i fucking hate this look of wide ass hips and waist FUCKING HATE IT!!!
one of the really cool things about my girl is that she keeps me focused on overall bodily proportions as this is important to her, and it's very good for me this influence she has with me in this regard :)
and thanks for being in my corner ma man ;D 8)
RIGHT NOW I WOULD NOT SWEAT IT..10 LBS WILL NOT INCREASE UR HIPS/LINES IF YOUR LEG MASS/SWEEP INCREASES,JUST GO FOR IT AND TAKE PICTURES MONTH OR SO JUST LEG SHOTS TO SEE,,LEGS HOLD A LOT OF MASS TO BODYWEIGHT SO 160 BW INCREASED LEG SIZE MAYBE 170 BW BUT STILL SAME LEAN UPPER BODY,ITS EASIER TO SAY THAN DOING,U HAVE TO DO IT TO REALLY GET RESULTS,,ON PAPER U WILL GO CRAZY..
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RIGHT NOW I WOULD NOT SWEAT IT..10 LBS WILL NOT INCREASE UR HIPS/LINES IF YOUR LEG MASS/SWEEP INCREASES,JUST GO FOR IT AND TAKE PICTURES MONTH OR SO JUST LEG SHOTS TO SEE,,LEGS HOLD A LOT OF MASS TO BODYWEIGHT SO 160 BW INCREASED LEG SIZE MAYBE 170 BW BUT STILL SAME LEAN UPPER BODY,ITS EASIER TO SAY THAN DOING,U HAVE TO DO IT TO REALLY GET RESULTS,,ON PAPER U WILL GO CRAZY..
True. First structure dj you don't have a wide hip structure so don't worry yes squats may increase hips a bit but in a good way. I just think you you are afraid of squatting because they are difficult.
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True. First structure dj you don't have a wide hip structure so don't worry yes squats may increase hips a bit but in a good way. I just think you you are afraid of squatting because they are difficult.
yep, you are right
squats suck motherfucking ass, so i'll start with leg press for awhile and then maybe switch to squats
it's kinda funny, but i'm using machines on all moves except for dumbbell laterals and barbell curls
if i max out the machine close-grip pulldowns then i guess that i'll have to go to weighted chins, which are also a real fucking bitch
p.s. i won't max out the machine leg press for a long while
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yep, you are right
squats suck motherfucking ass, so i'll start with leg press for awhile and then maybe switch to squats
it's kinda funny, but i'm using machines on all moves except for dumbbell laterals and barbell curls
if i max out the machine close-grip pulldowns then i guess that i'll have to go to weighted chins, which are also a real fucking bitch
p.s. i won't max out the machine leg press for a long while
LEG PRESS PLATE LOADED DEPENDING ON MACHINE OR STRENGHT IS INFINITE IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH U COULD LOAD 45'S WISE,VERY EGO DRIVEN MACHINE LESS IS MORE AT TIMES,BETTER PUMP SAY 6/8 45'S AS OPPOSSED TO 10 OR MORE 45'S AT 1/4 REP ROM ,U NEED HEAVY WEIGHT S TO STIMULATE BUT DONE PROPERLY AS WELL...
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yep, you are right
squats suck motherfucking ass, so i'll start with leg press for awhile and then maybe switch to squats
it's kinda funny, but i'm using machines on all moves except for dumbbell laterals and barbell curls
if i max out the machine close-grip pulldowns then i guess that i'll have to go to weighted chins, which are also a real fucking bitch
p.s. i won't max out the machine leg press for a long while
But see the hardest exercises increase the most muscle mass, depends on your goals as to what you want.
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dj181:
Of course you could review some of the old Gironda training programs, there on the net, just have to do a search. His plan was to avoid a big butt and waist, at all cost. Even some of the training advice of Dave Draper (among others), hold great value. Because you are speaking pure BB'ing, and that classic look so many of that past era had. Speaking of 8X8's, 10X10's, Tri sets, etc. Moderate weight,done at a fast pace, but very affective.
Looking for that tear drop affect for the lower quads, and less influence on the butt, than suggest Hack BB squats or even machine hacks. I might be wrong but I don't think you have the mind set to do squats. If you did, suggest front squats for the quads. Regular squats do affect the hip structure, but if nature gave you smaller joints and narrow ass, even serious squatting wouldn't do much to increase the hip/butt size. Never the worry of taking up two seats on a plane ride.
Hope the new gym is geared towards BB'ing, rather than fitness or other stuff. Working around, and with other like minded BB'ers, can help your progress greatly. Can always learn new ideas about training, diet, etc from their personal experiences. If you allow your ego to adapt, that is. Good Luck.
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dj181:
Of course you could review some of the old Gironda training programs, there on the net, just have to do a search. His plan was to avoid a big butt and waist, at all cost. Even some of the training advice of Dave Draper (among others), hold great value. Because you are speaking pure BB'ing, and that classic look so many of that past era had. Speaking of 8X8's, 10X10's, Tri sets, etc. Moderate weight,done at a fast pace, but very affective.
Looking for that tear drop affect for the lower quads, and less influence on the butt, than suggest Hack BB squats or even machine hacks. I might be wrong but I don't think you have the mind set to do squats. If you did, suggest front squats for the quads. Regular squats do affect the hip structure, but if nature gave you smaller joints and narrow ass, even serious squatting wouldn't do much to increase the hip/butt size. Never the worry of taking up two seats on a plane ride.
Hope the new gym is geared towards BB'ing, rather than fitness or other stuff. Working around, and with other like minded BB'ers, can help your progress greatly. Can always learn new ideas about training, diet, etc from their personal experiences. If you allow your ego to adapt, that is. Good Luck.
NICE POST WELL THOUGHT OUT,,,,I AM A LEG GUY ,STRONG AND WELL DEVELOPED MASS/SEPERATION/CONDITION ,,,DJ CAN BENEFIT GREATLY FROM OUR ADVICE ALL AROUND,,HE WILL ;)...
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NICE POST WELL THOUGHT OUT,,,,I AM A LEG GUY ,STRONG AND WELL DEVELOPED MASS/SEPERATION/CONDITION ,,,DJ CAN BENEFIT GREATLY FROM OUR ADVICE ALL AROUND,,HE WILL ;)...
NJ has great legs, so the deal is dj can can try the leg press better than nothing but not as good as squats.
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NJ has great legs, so the deal is dj can can try the leg press better than nothing but not as good as squats.
EXTENSIONS/LEGPRESS HE CAN DO WONDERS,SUPERSET ONCE IN A WHILE WICKED PUMP,WEAK KNEES,UNABLE TO FLEX KINDA PUMP,,,
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EXTENSIONS/LEGPRESS HE CAN DO WONDERS,SUPERSET ONCE IN A WHILE WICKED PUMP,WEAK KNEES,UNABLE TO FLEX KINDA PUMP,,,
Agreed.
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But see the hardest exercises increase the most muscle mass, depends on your goals as to what you want.
so you think that i should jump right into the hardest exercises right away?
i think that it's best to break it in "easy like" and then graduate onto the harder exercises as i progress
here's a tune to tear the gym the fuck up 8)
come watch the djer, in his sleeveles tee doing barbell curls til failure with his dense, seperated, detailed and rock muscles popping all the fuck out ;) 8)
spider-man WHO?!
still got them veins running up and down my abs while adding 3 full kilo in bodyweight OH YEAH!!!!!!
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and btw, here's the EXACT LEG PRESS MACHINE that i'm using
(http://www.lifefitness.com/static/cms_workspace/products/commercial/lfstrength/signatureseriessinglestations/lowerbody/CS-SigSingle_FZSLP-hero.png)
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not often i agree with jpm but he is correct front squats are great...just do not raise your heel. Do not Forget that on the leg press you can use a wide or narrow foot Position and higher or lower foot positions. In fact i could Train my whole legs with just leg press. I think however the squat is the best exercise for leg mass.. i can only say i have had great results with this exercise and big ass..no way. Gironda was a great Trainer but if you want a tight ass..squats,lunges,step ups....i have only had good comments about my glutes and i can thank Basic old fashioned squats for that. Sure you can piss around with cables and such for glutes but why do this? my advice stop being a pussy...SQUAT ;D
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^^^ lol
never deny that i wasn't a pussy :D :D :D
i was messing around on the barbell bench today, and i'm pathetically weak, but i'll get back some strength real quick as i adapt and adjust to the movement
as of now the only barbell lifts that i do are barbell curls and barbell bench, i fucking hate barbell rows and i think they are a pretty suckass exercise, but db rows are very good IMO
the only problem with the db rows is that the bells in my gym only go up to 110 pounds :-X so iguess that i'll have to end up doing these goddamn weighted chins >:( >:( >:(
still haven't done any calf work yet :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Mate Barbell rows are king for a thick AND wide back. I do think Dumbbell rows are great too. you have your own style so go your own way....
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just checked the ipf bench press rules regulations and here's what i've found and figured out, if i decide to compete in bp meets...
1. the weigh-in is 2 hours before the meet, so this making weight thing ain't gonna be practical here (when i did them years back you could do any early weigh-in the night before the meet) so i'll have to stay within 2 kilo of weight limit
2. i would compete either in the 74 kg class or the 83 kg class
3. you must keep your feet flat on the floor during the lift, i always stayed on my tip toes during the bench so i'll have to adjust to this flat feet thing :-X >:(
right now i'm @ 72 kg and still ripped to shreds so i can gain maybe 4 kg more if i wanna stay in the 74 kg class, but if i go to the 83 kg class then i can gain about 13 more kg
also, if i stay @ 74 kg class then i won't train legs hard and heavy, coz i don't need that extra unusable weight :D :D :D
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just checked the ipf bench press rules regulations and here's what i've found and figured out, if i decide to compete in bp meets...
1. the weigh-in is 2 hours before the meet, so this making weight thing ain't gonna be practical here (when i did them years back you could do any early weigh-in the night before the meet) so i'll have to stay within 2 kilo of weight limit
2. i would compete either in the 74 kg class or the 83 kg class
3. you must keep your feet flat on the floor during the lift, i always stayed on my tip toes during the bench so i'll have to adjust to this flat feet thing :-X >:(
right now i'm @ 72 kg and still ripped to shreds so i can gain maybe 4 kg more if i wanna stay in the 74 kg class, but if i go to the 83 kg class then i can gain about 13 more kg
also, if i stay @ 74 kg class then i won't train legs hard and heavy, coz i don't need that extra unusable weight :D :D :D
listen when i read your Posts i smile. You worry too much .. no doubt talk too much but i still like you.
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No offense dj181.... but;
This is the training log & information board. Not the rambling on about everything and nothing board. Or the 'what if', 'maybe I'll do that' or the 'that's sucks' board.
When you begin approaching training with serious intent, with a solid program mapped out and begin following it for at least 3 weeks or so, than I'm sure we will all be on the edge of out computer chairs/lap tops/tablets/phones to read about all your progress. Applying common sense to training may also be a goal for you to follow. A realistic look, and judgment, of your self as you look in the mirror may also help.
Hoping to read about your success story in Der Spiegel (English version) soon. Good Luck.
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No offense dj181.... but;
This is the training log & information board. Not the rambling on about everything and nothing board. Or the 'what if', 'maybe I'll do that' or the 'that's sucks' board.
When you begin approaching training with serious intent, with a solid program mapped out and begin following it for at least 3 weeks or so, than I'm sure we will all be on the edge of out computer chairs/lap tops/tablets/phones to read about all your progress. Applying common sense to training may also be a goal for you to follow. A realistic look, and judgment, of your self as you look in the mirror may also help.
Hoping to read about your success story in Der Spiegel (English version) soon. Good Luck.
no worries man, coz that's just your opinion
but the funny thing is... i still make progress even in spite of myself lol
i'm curious, are you trying to say that i've made no progress :D :D :D
if you don't think so then just ask njflex or mr nobody if i've made any progress ;)
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messed around on the bench yesterday and i got a massive 95 kg (210 pounds) for a competition style bench (this is with a full 2 second pause) and i had at least 10 or maybe 20 more pounds in me for an all-our single
this ain't so bad since i just started benching on saturday and that my weight has now stabilized to 71 kg (which is a bout a buck 57)
if all goes well i should have a 300 pound bench in me within 2 months time (i'm talking an ipf passed lift with a FULL 2 second pause at the chest)
there's 2 weight classes that got my name on them and they are.... 74 kg and/or 83 kg
i'm looking pretty tight now with my ripped, seperated and dense muscles with capped out delts, nicley shaped arms, and my pecs are filling out rather nicely 8) so i don't really need much more kilo of muscle on me as i notice the females checking me out as i strut round town in my sleeveless pink floyd tee ;)
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messed around on the bench yesterday and i got a massive 95 kg (210 pounds) for a competition style bench (this is with a full 2 second pause) and i had at least 10 or maybe 20 more pounds in me for an all-our single
this ain't so bad since i just started benching on saturday and that my weight has now stabilized to 71 kg (which is a bout a buck 57)
if all goes well i should have a 300 pound bench in me within 2 months time (i'm talking an ipf passed lift with a FULL 2 second pause at the chest)
there's 2 weight classes that got my name on them and they are.... 74 kg and/or 83 kg
i'm looking pretty tight now with my ripped, seperated and dense muscles with capped out delts, nicley shaped arms, and my pecs are filling out rather nicely 8) so i don't really need much more kilo of muscle on me as i notice the females checking me out as i strut round town in my sleeveless pink floyd tee ;)
What is the world record for your weight?
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What is the world record for your weight?
real fucking funny man :D :D :D
but if you're talking shirt free then i guess that i could look it up
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real fucking funny man :D :D :D
but if you're talking shirt free then i guess that i could look it up
I think the record is around 275 at 150 lbs bodyweight.
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I think the record is around 275 at 150 lbs bodyweight.
:D :D :D
just looked up an un-equipped world championship last year in sweden, and now it's made me decide to stay in the 74 kg class and not go up to the 83 kg class lol
a respectable shirt-free bench in the 74 kg class is 120-125 kg, which is 265-275
but a respectable shirt-free bench in the 83 kg class is... 160-165 kg which is 350-360 FUCK!!!
so if i stay lighter i can be competitive putting up 275-300 but if i go up just 10 fucking pounds i better be pressing near 400 fucking pounds... FUCK THAT >:( >:( >:(
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i'm projecting a 100 kg triple pause for me within 2 weeks time as i'm just getting back to the bench and the feel of the move and such
i bet that i'll be able to press 140 kg before the end of july which will be a DAMN GOOD bench for a 70 some kilo punkass like myself 8)
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i'm projecting a 100 kg triple pause for me within 2 weeks time as i'm just getting back to the bench and the feel of the move and such
i bet that i'll be able to press 140 kg before the end of july which will be a DAMN GOOD bench for a 70 some kilo punkass like myself 8)
I don't think you can get 140 g.
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lol
oh well, even if i don't get it, i sure am getting nice looks from hot females ;)
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i played around on the barbell squats today and i worked up to a whopping 40 kg lol
but i do these squats with expert form and keep the bar high on my traps and squat all the way down to a bit past parallel
my plan is to basically keep my squat weight in line with my bench weight
at the moment my bench training weight is 80-90 kg
i'd rather stay in the 74 kg class but i guess that i'll just keep plugging away on training for strength and then let the bodyweight take care of itself
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listen mate... you are starting to be a bit ridicules...300lbs in 2 months Bench press .. do be fucking Brief son. You are really being stupid. you should start from scratch in the Gym.. a few machines then later a split Routine.
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listen mate... you are starting to be a bit ridicules...300lbs in 2 months Bench press .. do be fucking Brief son. You are really being stupid. you should start from scratch in the Gym.. a few machines then later a split Routine.
my previous PR on the bench was 265 with a full 2 second pause at the chest WITHOUT STEROIDS
now i'm on steroids, so it ain't such a ridiculous claim brother
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my previous PR on the bench was 265 with a full 2 second pause at the chest WITHOUT STEROIDS
now i'm on steroids, so it ain't such a ridiculous claim brother
If you ever are on Holiday in Germany pm me and we can meet. I do not know you dj but i do find you funny.
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my previous PR on the bench was 265 with a full 2 second pause at the chest WITHOUT STEROIDS
now i'm on steroids, so it ain't such a ridiculous claim brother
I did 275 at 17 years old.
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If you ever are on Holiday in Germany pm me and we can meet. I do not know you dj but i do find you funny.
will do ;D
I did 275 at 17 years old.
did you pause it at your chest for 2 full seconds and was it a passed lift in a sanctioned meet?
mine was
also, how much did you weigh when you did it?
when i did mine i made weight of 148, but i actually weighed 157 "normally"
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will do ;D
did you pause it at your chest for 2 full seconds and was it a passed lift in a sanctioned meet?
mine was
also, how much did you weigh when you did it?
when i did mine i made weight of 148, but i actually weighed 157 "normally"
Yes around 175 at the time just a kid, got the trophy still.
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Yes around 175 at the time just a kid, got the trophy still.
dj....bless him.... ;D
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Yes around 175 at the time just a kid, got the trophy still.
PROPS
dj....bless him.... ;D
see above 8)
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seems The Wild Horse is finally settling down a bit and is working himself into a rather consistent routine/split
i'm basically following a 3-way split of push/pull/legs except pull day is mainly just a bi day ;D
push day is the most involved since i'm prepping for doing some bp meets here in the fall
on push day i'll focus on bench technique and heavy floor presses and finish off with some pec-deck and pressdowns for a bit of bodybuilding work 8)
on pull day i'll do barbell curls and another bi exercise and then maybe do some light pulley rows, just to maintain back
on leg day i'll do barbell squats and leg press
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i'm training too damn much and my curls went down a rep, i gotta back the fuck off a bit
also, i plan to focus on the floor press for awhile to rock up dat bench 8)
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i'm training too damn much and my curls went down a rep, i gotta back the fuck off a bit
also, i plan to focus on the floor press for awhile to rock up dat bench 8)
down a rep,,,dude cmon,,,u put wayyy too much into this,,,your main goal is to carve a physique ..strenght comes with more muscle,stamina,rest,who cares if u lose a rep,if u look ripped amen,if u feel good halleluha,relax lifting is fun not to stress about..
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The Wild Horse might want to slow down to a trot now and than. But glad your into some kind of targeted focus. Don't worry about losing a rep or two, were all on a biological cycle...some great days, some crap days. That includes mental and emotional days as well. A day away from training has also been know to help with steady progress.
Might find that spending a little more time with back/lat work will improve your bench. And for sure, squats and DL's will. Floor presses are great, as are 3 to 4 inch lockouts for benches. Going to find that ligament/tendon strength is going to have a big role in getting a better bench. Adding strength is a combo of ligament/tendon (joint) and muscle power. You really don't have to gain a lot of muscle weight to become extra strong. Some of the lighter class Pl'ers are super strong, without that much added muscle mass. Having 19" guns never means your the most powerful guy in the gym.
Good Luck
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thanks for the feedback dudes :)
to jpm: what kinda rep scheme would you recommend on the floor presses?
i'm thinking either triples or maybe even go up to 5 reps MAX
i've been researching floor presses on youtube and on the net and some dudes just do singles on them, but i'm thinking to keep the singles only for the regular bench (basically to work on and practice my form)
to nj: remember dude, i'm very competitive so i take this shit kinda personal, but you're right, i need to relax now and then
and on a side note, do you think i'm at a bigger risk for injury with this bench training if i'm very lean?
i'm a little bit fatter now, but still under 7%, but of course this is pissing me off as well, so i've decided to watch my cals a bit more and not be so careless with eating everything in sight
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down a rep,,,dude cmon,,,u put wayyy too much into this,,,your main goal is to carve a physique ..strenght comes with more muscle,stamina,rest,who cares if u lose a rep,if u look ripped amen,if u feel good halleluha,relax lifting is fun not to stress about..
Steve's advice is spot on.
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btw, this is one of ma fav bench prep tunes FUCK YEA!!!!!!!
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DJ181
Don't know what your whole program is, but might suggest 4X3's for floor presses. If interested, than also 3X3's of lockouts from a 3 to 4 inch starting position. Either case your influencing the tendons/ligaments, as well as muscle strength. May also suggest never go to the point of failure on any set.
If doing any of the above, with serious intent, than the lats/upper back, should feel quite worked and sore . Which may highlight the need for working the back hard to improve the bench. Most all top line bencher's do. Good Luck.
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DJ181
Don't know what your whole program is, but might suggest 4X3's for floor presses. If interested, than also 3X3's of lockouts from a 3 to 4 inch starting position. Either case your influencing the tendons/ligaments, as well as muscle strength. May also suggest never go to the point of failure on any set.
If doing any of the above, with serious intent, than the lats/upper back, should feel quite worked and sore . Which may highlight the need for working the back hard to improve the bench. Most all top line bencher's do. Good Luck.
thanks for the feedback man :)
btw, i've gotten weaker 3 days in a row now, so this tells me that i gotta back off a bit
you see i train every goddamn day as i have complusive/addictive issues and everyday that i train i train HARD
so what i need to do is insert some "light days" so i'll try something like this...
Day 1: Heavy Bench and push work (chest, delt, tri)
Day 2: Heavy back, bi and legs
Day 3: light bench doing 3 or 4 sets of 3 with 60% training weight working on and perfecting my bench form and technique
Day 4: light squat doing 3 or 4 sets of 3 with 60% training weight working on and perfecting my squat form and technique
with this schedule i'll be training hard and heavy 3-4 days per week, instead of 7 fucking days per week, so this should put me back on the path to regular and consistent progress 8)
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i'm getting some elbow issues from this heavy training, from the floor presses and just the heavy training in general
so i think that i'll alternate regular bench with floor press for each push workout, so therefore i'll just do these floor presses once every 8 days instead of once every 4 days
not sure how much longer i'll be able to train push heavy every 4 days, and i'll probably have to go to every 5 days or even just once a week here sometime soon....
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i'm getting some elbow issues from this heavy training, from the floor presses and just the heavy training in general
so i think that i'll alternate regular bench with floor press for each push workout, so therefore i'll just do these floor presses once every 8 days instead of once every 4 days
not sure how much longer i'll be able to train push heavy every 4 days, and i'll probably have to go to every 5 days or even just once a week here sometime soon....
I like the down to earth dj181,,the one here who can listen and reason.the run you had last 5 months or so was great,reconditioned body and got in best shape bf wise and leaness and did it for the most part at home,going to gym and opening yourself for more exercises ,weights,machines is awesome I love it,but training at home every day and then trying to go to gym and grind out 4 or 5 heavy workouts wk after wk,tears the joints,muscles need recovery,its tough as you could see.lift,rest,eat,repeat,,,
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I like the down to earth dj181,,the one here who can listen and reason.the run you had last 5 months or so was great,reconditioned body and got in best shape bf wise and leaness and did it for the most part at home,going to gym and opening yourself for more exercises ,weights,machines is awesome I love it,but training at home every day and then trying to go to gym and grind out 4 or 5 heavy workouts wk after wk,tears the joints,muscles need recovery,its tough as you could see.lift,rest,eat,repeat,,,
thanks man, and agreed about the rest
in fact, i just sent this to mr. n via pm and i'm posting it here, coz it's DAMN DAMN important for me to think about and meditate on
"i'll have to decide...
do i want to continue to make progress or do i want to stay the same?
in order to make progress i gotta train less...."
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thanks man, and agreed about the rest
in fact, i just sent this to mr. n via pm and i'm posting it here, coz it's DAMN DAMN important for me to think about and meditate on
"i'll have to decide...
do i want to continue to make progress or do i want to stay the same?
in order to make progress i gotta train less...."
WELL USUALLY YEAH,,IF U WERE IN UR 20'S I'D SAY OK KEEP GOING,,BUT AS U GET OLDER MORE REST BETTER,BUT STILL THE DAY U TRAIN BUST YOUR ASS,THE GAINS SLOW DOWN CAUSE U CAUGHT UP TO YOUR PREVIOUS BEST AND THEN WENT A HEAD A BIT TOO IN TERMS OF LEANESS,,
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WELL USUALLY YEAH,,IF U WERE IN UR 20'S I'D SAY OK KEEP GOING,,BUT AS U GET OLDER MORE REST BETTER,BUT STILL THE DAY U TRAIN BUST YOUR ASS,THE GAINS SLOW DOWN CAUSE U CAUGHT UP TO YOUR PREVIOUS BEST AND THEN WENT A HEAD A BIT TOO IN TERMS OF LEANESS,,
Key right there if you were in your 20's. As getting older the body needs more rest. The problem dj has is a catch 22 he feels he can't take a day off, this is a mental issue of feeling he is losing muscle if he takes a day off, eventually your body will force you to take a day off due to exhaustion. Best to schedule days off. Props to dj for getting into shape but to continue to gain days off in order, even the the pros don't train 7 days a week. So yea a decision has to be made on staying the same or progression.
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Key right there if you were in your 20's. As getting older the body needs more rest. The problem dj has is a catch 22 he feels he can't take a day off, this is a mental issue of feeling he is losing muscle if he takes a day off, eventually your body will force you to take a day off due to exhaustion. Best to schedule days off. Props to dj for getting into shape but to continue to gain days off in order, even the the pros don't train 7 days a week. So yea a decision has to be made on staying the same or progression.
GREAT POST,,I DO THIS TO A TTTT,,20/33 I DID NOT I FELT SMALL IF I DID NOT TRAIN,,,,,LOL,,ITS THE BEST THING YOU COULD DO,,I LOVE TRAINING BUT LOK FOWARD TO REST AND FUEL...TO THE PRO'S OLD ADAGE IF THEY DIDN'T TRAIN OR WERE OFF CONTEST THEY GOT OF DRUGS OR MAYBE LESSENED TIME OFF,,NOWADAYS CONTEST SEASON FULL DIET/DRUGS/FAT LOSS/SITE INJECTIONS OFFSEASON LESS TRAINING LESS DOSES BUT STILL ON SO THEY ONLY SLIGHTLY GET SMALLER/SOFTER,,,DRUGS ARE 100 PCT IN SYSTEM NOW,70/80'S TRAINING WAS STILL MORE IMPORTANT SHAME...
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how many days per week do pros train nowadays?
i know that the powerlifters from the 70s used to bench 3 fucking times a week, and even in the 80s they still benched twice a week
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i'm up to over 4000 cals per day now and i'm still lean @ sub-7 and i've gained bout 10 pounds since my latest update pics
if i stopped training so damn hard i'd get fat real quick, but this hard training allows me to eat lots while putting the majority of them cals to making bigger muscles ;)
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Name of this sexy slut so i can download wallpaper.
(http://data.whicdn.com/images/31860150/tumblr_m6agnlFGT31roc4mko1_500_large.jpg)
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no clue
i just typed in slim and sexy females into google and she was one of the females who appeared
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i've gained about 10 pounds so far, a bit over 4 kg
i plan to gain another 15 pounds or so, or about 7 more kg
i'm still pretty damn lean and when i trained bis today i had veins all over my delts arms and forearms 8)
my end goal is 5'11" 165-175 @ sub-6
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arms, pecs, and delts are really starting to take on a high level of condition and development while legs not so much
it's basically coz i got no fucking drive to train legs
but at least i look good in a tank top 8)
maybe i'll have one of the trainers at my gym put me through some leg training, but i ain't gonna do no squats or deads of any kind
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arms, pecs, and delts are really starting to take on a high level of condition and development while legs not so much
it's basically coz i got no fucking drive to train legs
but at least i look good in a tank top 8)
maybe i'll have one of the trainers at my gym put me through some leg training, but i ain't gonna do no squats or deads of any kind
LEGS ARE A WHOLE DIFFERENT MINDSET,,GOTTA WANT EM....
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LEGS ARE A WHOLE DIFFERENT MINDSET,,GOTTA WANT EM....
that's why i'll probably hire this trainer to push me, basically if i take it serious enough i'll hire him
also, i've almost maxed out the pec deck machine at my gym, so i guess that i'll have to do some db flyes
i'm curious what you fellas think is a better pec exercise, pec deck or db flyes?
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that's why i'll probably hire this trainer to push me, basically if i take it serious enough i'll hire him
also, i've almost maxed out the pec deck machine at my gym, so i guess that i'll have to do some db flyes
i'm curious what you fellas think is a better pec exercise, pec deck or db flyes?
I LIKE DB FLYES IMO...SUPERSET WITH DIPS IS VERY GOOD PUMP 'FULL'BLAST...
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I LIKE DB FLYES IMO...SUPERSET WITH DIPS IS VERY GOOD PUMP 'FULL'BLAST...
thanks for the feedback on the flyes
the bells at my gym only go up to 50 kg, which is 110 pounds but i'm pretty sure that i can't fly those just yet ;)
and on a side note, i'm not doing much back work either, so maybe i'm just cut out to be a pretty boy "physique artist" (in the wheelchair division lol)
yeah man i know.... djego181 lol
that's a near perfect nick for me in fact
and btw, i was listening to this fine tune while blasting out my pecs on hammer machine inclines 8)
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and btw, back and leg training is indeed the hardest, but....
one can work their pecs, delts, and arms quite hard as well, and it's not so easy training them hard and effectively
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110 LB FLYES WOULD BE INSANE,I WOULD SAY AT MY STRONGEST 60/70 IS PLENTY ON BOTH FLAT AND INCLINE WITH I'D SAY 90 PCT GOOD FORM THATS HEAVY ASS BELL'S .110'S MAYBE A SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT PRO COULD DO THEM BUT THERE ON SO MUCH 'GAS'40/50'S PUMPING IS ENOUGHT FOR THEM TO GROW HUGE CHEST...GO BY FEEL,IF UR DELTS ARE GETTING PUMPED FRONT SPECIFICALLY AND YOUR DRAGGING AS OPPOSSED TO 'HUGGING'IN AN ARC AT THE TOP END OF A FLYE THEN UR GOING TO HEAVY....
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i've gained about 10 pounds so far, a bit over 4 kg
i plan to gain another 15 pounds or so, or about 7 more kg
i'm still pretty damn lean and when i trained bis today i had veins all over my delts arms and forearms 8)
my end goal is 5'11" 165-175 @ sub-6
i've figured out that there's no way in hell i'll be able to hit 175 @ 5% coz i ain't gonna take more drugs and such
so... maybe i'll be able to make it to 165 @ 5%
in my ripped pics i only weighed 152, so 13 pounds of pure lean muscle tissue is quite alot actually
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i've figured out that there's no way in hell i'll be able to hit 175 @ 5% coz i ain't gonna take more drugs and such
so... maybe i'll be able to make it to 165 @ 5%
in my ripped pics i only weighed 152, so 13 pounds of pure lean muscle tissue is quite alot actually
Good move everyone can only do the best they can.
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Good move everyone can only do the best they can.
agreed
and i guess that i was pretty damn delusional thinking that i could make it up to 175 RIPPED ::) :-X
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come oct 31st fellas ;)
btw, where da fuck is ugayjizz ??? ??? ???
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just wanted to make this post here to humiliate myself (ie. to push myself) to get strong as fuck ;)
just did db low incline press today and i got 5 reps til failure with the 32 kilo dbs LOL (i do a strong positive and a slow controlled negative for each reps taking up to 5 seconds to lower the bell)
my goal is to max dat shit out and get 5 or 6 reps til failure with the max dbs at my gym, which are 50 kilo ones 8)
here's one of the tunes i blast while pounding dem inclines FUCK YEAH!!!!
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just wanted to make this post here to humiliate myself (ie. to push myself) to get strong as fuck ;)
just did db low incline press today and i got 5 reps til failure with the 32 kilo dbs LOL (i do a strong positive and a slow controlled negative for each reps taking up to 5 seconds to lower the bell)
my goal is to max dat shit out and get 5 or 6 reps til failure with the max dbs at my gym, which are 50 kilo ones 8)
here's one of the tunes i blast while pounding dem inclines FUCK YEAH!!!!
WHATS THAT IN LBS DJ??
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WHATS THAT IN LBS DJ??
70 pounds and max bell is 110 pounds
i wish myself luck getting there :P
but truth be told i'll get up to 80-85 pound bells right quick :)
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70 pounds and max bell is 110 pounds
i wish myself luck getting there :P
but truth be told i'll get up to 80-85 pound bells right quick :)
ok...YOU'LL GROW/EAT/PUSH THOSE HEAVY DBELLS,AND FLYES/DIPS
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Good progress, you gonna post new pics?
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Good progress, you gonna post new pics?
:D :D :D :D
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ok...YOU'LL GROW/EAT/PUSH THOSE HEAVY DBELLS,AND FLYES/DIPS
yeah, that's true, but i gotta admit that it's becoming a real fucking pain in the ass force feeding myself to eat so many damn fucking calories >:( >:( >:(
i eat a legit 4000-4500 cals per day and i gained nearly 6 kg in 2 weeks and i'll gain another 6-8 kilo in the next 3-4 weeks
BOOOOOOMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!
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gained another kilo over the past 3 days and a very hot girl in shiny black leggings smiled and winked at me today as my pecs are fillling out so very nicely with my wideass shoulders set across my slim and narrow waistline 8)
i'll gain another 5-7 kilo over the next 3 weeks no problemo
Ace be a riding on down the line fellas 8)
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did the inclines again today and i punched out 6 reps with the 75 pound bells
starting weight was 70 pound bells for 5, so look out 90's....
HERE I COME 8)
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did the inclines again today and i punched out 6 reps with the 75 pound bells
starting weight was 70 pound bells for 5, so look out 90's....
HERE I COME 8)
70 TO 90 IS LIKE NITE AND DAY LOAD WISE ESP DBELLS.
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70 TO 90 IS LIKE NITE AND DAY LOAD WISE ESP DBELLS.
yeah i guess that you're right, as it's roughly a 30% increase
and here i'm thinking that i'll get up to the 110 pound bells within 3-4 months lol
also, i've been hitting hacks and calf raise fairly regularly and my girl just made a comment last week that my ass is getting fuller and thicker and that she's diggin it 8)
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yeah i guess that you're right, as it's roughly a 30% increase
and here i'm thinking that i'll get up to the 110 pound bells within 3-4 months lol
also, i've been hitting hacks and calf raise fairly regularly and my girl just made a comment last week that my ass is getting fuller and thicker and that she's diggin it 8)
What you talking about Willis? How is she diggin those calves?
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What you talking about Willis? How is she diggin those calves?
she's a smart girl, and she knows physique actually
she said that she can notice the gain in my upper calf near the knee but that i don't have much lower calf muscle ie. that i got high calves
so yeah she knows physique
and on the hacks i moved the feet a bit closer together and i take the reps a bit lower and now i can only use 85 kilo and the whole stack is 195 kg
but when i did them with my feet wider and not going as low as i go now i was using 165 kg so it fucking sucks to be using such a pussyass weight now >:( >:( >:( >:(
here's the exact machine i use btw
(http://www.lifefitness.com/static-assets/image/products/commercial/hammerstrength/mts/isolaterallowerbody/CS-HSMTS_MTSVQ-hero.png)
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she's a smart girl, and she knows physique actually
she said that she can notice the gain in my upper calf near the knee but that i don't have much lower calf muscle ie. that i got high calves
so yeah she knows physique
and on the hacks i moved the feet a bit closer together and i take the reps a bit lower and now i can only use 85 kilo and the whole stack is 195 kg
but when i did them with my feet wider and not going as low as i go now i was using 165 kg so it fucking sucks to be using such a pussyass weight now >:( >:( >:( >:(
here's the exact machine i use btw
(http://www.lifefitness.com/static-assets/image/products/commercial/hammerstrength/mts/isolaterallowerbody/CS-HSMTS_MTSVQ-hero.png)
THATS A HACK SQUAT NO???WE HAVE ONE SIMILAR U CAN DO CALVES ON IT..
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she's a smart girl, and she knows physique actually
she said that she can notice the gain in my upper calf near the knee but that i don't have much lower calf muscle ie. that i got high calves
so yeah she knows physique
and on the hacks i moved the feet a bit closer together and i take the reps a bit lower and now i can only use 85 kilo and the whole stack is 195 kg
but when i did them with my feet wider and not going as low as i go now i was using 165 kg so it fucking sucks to be using such a pussyass weight now >:( >:( >:( >:(
here's the exact machine i use btw
(http://www.lifefitness.com/static-assets/image/products/commercial/hammerstrength/mts/isolaterallowerbody/CS-HSMTS_MTSVQ-hero.png)
You need lower calves hitting the soleus seated calve raises are in order.
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THATS A HACK SQUAT NO???WE HAVE ONE SIMILAR U CAN DO CALVES ON IT..
yep, that's a hack squat and yep i do calf raises on it too
in fact i can use more weight on it doing my calf raises than i can doing regular hacks which is pretty fucking funny actually
but i guess i got kinda strong calves from being a former athlete ie. basketball player and track and cross country man 8)
and yeah mr trollbody i can't dunk but i'm very sure that i'm much quicker than you, so i'd easily blow right by you and put in a right or left handed lay-up ;)
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You need lower calves hitting the soleus seated calve raises are in order.
really? it hits lower calf? thought it hit under the calf ???
anyways, calf trianing don't bring me much glory or satisfaction, but upper body training sure as hell does, as i notice these sexyass bitches checking out my hot pecs and wide squared off shoulders ;D 8)
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just blasted out the 80 pound bells for 4 reps
started at 70 pound bells for 5
so.... it's a coming fellas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hot, hot pecs on the Acer 8) 8) 8)
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gained 18 pounds so far over the course of one month
if i keep up this pace i will have gained over 200 pounds in less than one year ;D ;D ;D
but actually i'll probably just gain another 20 pounds or so
always knew that i had very good physique genetics 8) 8) 8)
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gained 18 pounds so far over the course of one month
if i keep up this pace i will have gained over 200 pounds in less than one year ;D ;D ;D
but actually i'll probably just gain another 20 pounds or so
always knew that i had very good physique genetics 8) 8) 8)
Do you weigh 200 lbs? Where did it go.
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Do you weigh 200 lbs? Where did it go.
lol
more like a buck 68
it went mostly to my legs, arms, and pecs me thinks
bodyfat is still around 8%
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just blasted out 7 reps with da 80's today
it's a comin' fellas... it's a comin' 8) 8) 8)
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just blasted out 7 reps with da 80's today
it's a comin' fellas... it's a comin' 8) 8) 8)
When will we see you in thongs on stage?
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When will we see you in thongs on stage?
mrn...physique artists do not wear thongs..
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mrn...physique artists do not wear thongs..
Yes I forgot.
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Yes I forgot.
;).. :-*... ;D
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;).. :-*... ;D
;D ;D ;D
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the past 3 days i've really been trying to continue on with the force feeding, but it's really becoming a goddamn chore so now i'll clean up the diet a bit while going for a body recomp ie. going from 9% to 6% while maintaining my current bodyweight, or even adding a few more pounds
i'll hit the db inclines once again today and i'll blast out the 85ers 8)
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punched out 4 with the 85ers, so the 90s are just round the corner fellas 8)
and i was jamming to dis here tune while blasting out dem 85ers
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New: Has Ace made solid Muscle gains in his specified time frame or mostly fat? I have seen recent pics here is my take.
Arms - Increased, Chest - same lost cuts. Back - same, Delts -same, Legs - none.
Summary - Arms increased due to a bit of both fat and muscle, the rest most of the size from fat ie, bulking dont work for him.
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here's some update pics
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here's some update pics
good job,,filled out pretty good there .arms/delts,,vascular too,,keep it up,be careful man'get checked'things sneak up on you,health wise.
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good job,,filled out pretty good there .arms/delts,,vascular too,,keep it up,be careful man'get checked'things sneak up on you,health wise.
thanks bro, i had my blood pressure checked at the doc's a few weeks ago as i was having some reflux problems and it came up 118/76 so not too shabby and i was rather shocked coz i figured it would be a bit high
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4 PICS I NEED 5 OF THAT TRICEP SHOT LOL,,,,1 WAS GOOD ENOUGH,,ARMS HAVE GROWN...
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4 PICS I NEED 5 OF THAT TRICEP SHOT LOL,,,,1 WAS GOOD ENOUGH,,ARMS HAVE GROWN...
lol
thanks man, and those last 2 shots are repeats ;D
ma man che and wishbone claim these pipes are barely 14 inches :D :D :D
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Good vascularity! I like the one on your tri!
Looking good!!
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Good vascularity! I like the one on your tri!
Looking good!!
thanks bro :)
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What's measure mentioned of your arm in inches? U say 14??look bigger to me
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What's measure mentioned of your arm in inches? U say 14??look bigger to me
che and family were trying to troll me with that ;D
they measure sixteen and a half inches
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ok fellas i'm going to get as ripped as i was here and we will see how much lean dry muscle i have put on
15 put me at 4 4.5 here and i weighed all of a buck 52
i hope and pray that i will at least be a buck 60 this time, and i'll fully admit that i'm afraid about it, coz if i haven't gained at least 6 lean dry pounds of muscle then all this gear and training i've been doing has been in vain, but fuck it i gotta face my fear and go for it
i just started my diet three days ago and i've lost 5 pounds already, going from a buck 75 to a buck 70 but it's mostly just food in the gut and a little water as i was overeating recently
i'm afraid and pissed off at the same time, what a great way to feel LOL
p.s. i will be this ripped and dry again in two to three weeks MAX
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you were still a bit wet behind the ears the last diet to get lean...your eating more now and still lean so that should tell you something,plus your bigger 'obviously the compounds help..i think you will look fuller and with same or close to deep condition theses pics,,you have to play with the calories .
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you were still a bit wet behind the ears the last diet to get lean...your eating more now and still lean so that should tell you something,plus your bigger 'obviously the compounds help..i think you will look fuller and with same or close to deep condition theses pics,,you have to play with the calories .
good point bro and you're right
i'm just paranoid as hell that i'll end up looking the same :-X :-\
i'll take the photos in two or three weeks, basically once i hit that level of conditioning, and maybe i'll include the wheels this time, and i guess i should take a back shot or two as well ;)
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and these tunes will be my motivation to push it
GET RIPPED BOY..... GET FUCKING RIPPED GO TO WORK 8)
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Just wondering (since it's winter and all) why wouldn't you take a few more months and continue to build more tissue?? This way when you cut back down you'll 100% ensure that you've put on some good tissue...but in any case i think that you'll see some good improvements that you'll be happy with
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Just wondering (since it's winter and all) why wouldn't you take a few more months and continue to build more tissue?? This way when you cut back down you'll 100% ensure that you've put on some good tissue...but in any case i think that you'll see some good improvements that you'll be happy with
honestly it's to face my fear, i've wanted to get as lean as i was before to see how much lean dry tissue i've put on, as that rippedness was almost two and a half years ago
so if i haven't put on at least five lean pounds of lean dry muscle tissue then maybe i should just go on HTR and maintain what i have, rather than spend the cash on gear since it will show i really didn't get much out of it
also, i've got "female pressure" from female friends and my own mother, my mother is a open minded female but she ain't too keen on my usage, and yeah homos like me have just a few female friends ;D
yeah i know i should be alpha and not let females influence me so much, but i'm a honest dude so it does effect and speak to me somehow
and i also love being ripped coz it's my best genetic blessing i think, so why not take advantage of it
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just weighed i and...
i lost one more pound so now it's stabilizing
it looks like i have out six to eight more pounds to lose before i hit that condition so that would put me at a buck sixty two to sixty four
and that would be a ten to twelve lean dry pound gain
we will see
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just weighed i and...
i lost one more pound so now it's stabilizing
it looks like i have out six to eight more pounds to lose before i hit that condition so that would put me at a buck sixty two to sixty four
and that would be a ten to twelve lean dry pound gain
we will see
ARE BY NATURE NOT A BIG EATER,OR YOU DON'T LIKE TO OVEREAT TO POSSIBLY GAIN AND FEEL ITS NOT WORTH IT?..
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ARE BY NATURE NOT A BIG EATER,OR YOU DON'T LIKE TO OVEREAT TO POSSIBLY GAIN AND FEEL ITS NOT WORTH IT?..
good question
i can easily eat a xxl pizza or a big mac, double quarter pounder with cheese and super size fries all in one sitting, so i can eat ALOT ;)
so it's this.... DON'T LIKE TO OVEREAT TO POSSIBLY GAIN AND FEEL ITS NOT WORTH IT
my x trainer told me one of my genetic gifts is conditioning so why not capitalize on that 8)
just measured my a skinfold ad it's 7 mm, in my ripped pics it was 3 mm, so i'm getting there
p.s. my back of the hand skinfold is 2 mm, so 2 mm is just skin
my plan is once i get ripped to eat in a slight surplus and not overeat
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When you weighed 152 in those old pics, were you completely natural? Also, what are you running at the moment and how old are you? I'm still natty and have a similar structure to you... ecto. ;D
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When you weighed 152 in those old pics, were you completely natural? Also, what are you running at the moment and how old are you? I'm still natty and have a similar structure to you... ecto. ;D
in those pics i was on 20 mg of superdrol ed
now i'm on 20 mg of superdrol ed and 50 mg of tren ace eod and 50 mg of test prop eod
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i'm a little it shocked fellas as i weighed in today and i've gained 2 pounds but my ab skinfold is down 1 mm, from 7 mm to 6 mm, so i'm leaner than before, but heavier 8)
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i'm a little it shocked fellas as i weighed in today and i've gained 2 pounds but my ab skinfold is down 1 mm, from 7 mm to 6 mm, so i'm leaner than before, but heavier 8)
nice 8)
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in those pics i was on 20 mg of superdrol ed
now i'm on 20 mg of superdrol ed and 50 mg of tren ace eod and 50 mg of test prop eod
Ahh. Those are pretty low doses. You should cut down to the same weight as before and get super cut. Although 158-160 might be a better look. But that's still pretty small, don't you wanna be bigger? I mean, you're already juicing, might as well up the dose :D ;)
When you were still completely natty, how did you look compared to this? Same weight but softer?
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Also, do you train legs? ??? If so, mind showing them? No homo of course :P
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Ahh. Those are pretty low doses. You should cut down to the same weight as before and get super cut. Although 158-160 might be a better look. But that's still pretty small, don't you wanna be bigger? I mean, you're already juicing, might as well up the dose :D ;)
When you were still completely natty, how did you look compared to this? Same weight but softer?
don't think i could get much more cut that that, as i was 4 to 4.5 percent there and 3 percent is near death lol
and yep, that's about right when i was a natty... Same weight but softer
roids gave more more hardness, dryness and detail, which is exactly what i want
i prefer atheistic lines to mass so max wt for me is not more than 170-180 at 5 percent
Also, do you train legs? ??? If so, mind showing them? No homo of course :P
good question and yeah i train them a bit, and i was planing to post a leg pic so it'll be ;)
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yeah legs,,,i'm waiting ;)...
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don't think i could get much more cut that that, as i was 4 to 4.5 percent there and 3 percent is near death lol
and yep, that's about right when i was a natty... Same weight but softer
roids gave more more hardness, dryness and detail, which is exactly what i want
i prefer atheistic lines to mass so max wt for me is not more than 170-180 at 5 percent
Doubt you were 4% lol. Did you have shredded glutes, hamstrings and lower back?
And lol at atheistic lines ;D What are those? ???
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yeah legs,,,i'm waiting ;)...
here ya go lol
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btw my camera is really shit coz i got veins in my quad but they don't show up very well here
SHIT CAMERA >:( >:( >:(
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here ya go lol
they are bigger than last few yrs tho,,calf flexed up front looks alright ,,keep at it...decent weight and keep reps 10-15 ;pump them..
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they are bigger than last few yrs tho,,calf flexed up front looks alright ,,keep at it...decent weight and keep reps 10-15 ;pump them..
thanks bro, but i just got to eve them out coz the right is a bit bigger than the left due to two knee surgeries from basketball
as you know i have a trainer for my legs ;D and we are now gonna try and work on this problem
on one of the surgeries the doc gave me what's called a lateral release, cutting the lateral tendon, and it kinda fucked up the quad development, but we'll see if i can even them out more
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thanks bro, but i just got to eve them out coz the right is a bit bigger than the left due to two knee surgeries from basketball
as you know i have a trainer for my legs ;D and we are now gonna try and work on this problem
on one of the surgeries the doc gave me what's called a lateral release, cutting the lateral tendon, and it kinda fucked up the quad development, but we'll see if i can even them out more
single leg press single leg extensions around the heavier lifting'like squats'hack squats..
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single leg press single leg extensions around the heavier lifting'like squats'hack squats..
yeah, that'll be the plan me thinks
it's especially the lateral head of the quad that needs the added size so with leg press how does that work? foot higher or lower, push from heel or toe?
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How's the diet going dj?
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How's the diet going dj?
added in t3 at 75 mcg three days ago and i've lost three more pounds over those three days and now i'm almost at the same level of conditioning
got another 3 to 5 pounds to go
once i hit this level then i plan to maintain it while slowly adding ONLY LEAN MUSCLE TISSUE, no water and no fat 8)
basically i'll have to be very careful not to over eat and only have one cheat meal per day instead of four lol i eat four meals per day
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I find it hard to eat enough in 5 meals sometimes if I'm not over 500 grams of protein and 4k cals I'm not gonna gain shit. And I consider my metabolism to be slow. Once u r lean and u try to gain u should b eating a good amount of foods the body puts it to better use when u r lean and always broken down from intense training calories go to repair u.
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Ever use a food blender in place of one of your meals. Should not be so filling with a good quality protein supplement, including eggs or egg powder. Can use a water base, juice or whatever. In any event, sip any protein based drink slowly. Any health drink for that matter.
If wanting to add more calories that use flaxseed oil, pure olive oil, wheat germ oil or safflower oil in the blender. They all have around 500 quality calories in a table spoon. Can learn to pack a lot of nourishment in an 8oz glass. And will be easier to digest liquid than most solid foods. Can also tend to keep the waist size in control, without bloating.
Don't really need 500 grams of protein, most of that will be pissed away. But I'll let you be the judge of what your needs are. 200/250 should be what most trainers require. 4,000 calories should be just about right, depending on body type, age and activity.
Good Luck.
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Idk whos legs are bigger ww or djs..adding in 75mcg t3? For what? Lol stop wasting your time getting more cut and dry u are already tiny start building your physique
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500 grams of protein WTF
i've already ate lots of cals while ripped and dry and the fat and water comes back very quickly actually even on gear
the key is in the training not the diet
i can't push myself hard enough while training on my own, so now i've got a trainer to push me a few times a week 8)
the key with diet is to eat more but not overeat
it looks like i'll have added bout ten pounds of dry lean muscle tissue
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500 grams isn't shit dude I drink protein shakes with my steak and potatoes for dinner name of this website is getbig.com
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Oh never mind u said u can't push your self hard enough without a trainer? Then the answer to all your questions are that imo u r wasting your fucking time to be honest u can't train hard enough so u have to hire somebody to tell u WHat to do lol wtf? Just shut up and train it's supposed to b enjoyable if u love it u don't need to get motivated or hire trainers u have to love to train or u are wasting your time.
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Oh never mind u said u can't push your self hard enough without a trainer? Then the answer to all your questions are that imo u r wasting your fucking time to be honest u can't train hard enough so u have to hire somebody to tell u WHat to do lol wtf? Just shut up and train it's supposed to b enjoyable if u love it u don't need to get motivated or hire trainers u have to love to train or u are wasting your time.
dj has the know how,does the things he feels he needs to do/take to get to the level he 's at ..but he's his own worst enemy,,constantly second guesses himself..but has a cocky side and bravado around all the insecure shit,,,he is an enigma here lol,,,good dude all in all,he's changed after his last tour of duty here,,
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Oh never mind u said u can't push your self hard enough without a trainer? Then the answer to all your questions are that imo u r wasting your fucking time to be honest u can't train hard enough so u have to hire somebody to tell u WHat to do lol wtf? Just shut up and train it's supposed to b enjoyable if u love it u don't need to get motivated or hire trainers u have to love to train or u are wasting your time.
not to tel me what to do chief but to push me hard enough, i already know what to do i'm just too damn lazy to push myself that hard lol
and like i said, i've put on ten lean dry pounds of muscle tissue so it don't look like i'm wasting my time lol but the thing is... if i would have worked as hard as i should could have it would probably have been twenty pounds
dj has the know how,does the things he feels he needs to do/take to get to the level he 's at ..but he's his own worst enemy,,constantly second guesses himself..but has a cocky side and bravado around all the insecure shit,,,he is an enigma here lol,,,good dude all in all,he's changed after his last tour of duty here,,
djego ;D and you're right bro i am most own worst enemy >:(
but this second guessing ain't so bad coz it lets me experiment with lots of things and see what works best 8) for example eating a decent surplus of cals even when ripped makes me gain fat and water very quickly
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Not telling u what to do, if u put half ass work ethic into your own body and need trainer to push u to do what it takes eventually u will have given up, and 2 years from now all this was for nothing. Mayb not. It's hard for me to imagine not training as hard as possible, why fucking even go to gym if u don't intend to work hard.
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Not telling u what to do, if u put half ass work ethic into your own body and need trainer to push u to do what it takes eventually u will have given up, and 2 years from now all this was for nothing. Mayb not. It's hard for me to imagine not training as hard as possible, why fucking even go to gym if u don't intend to work hard.
qft...
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Working hard is one thing...working smart is another. Some never quite understand the point that they go well together, making the most of any time spent training.
Drinking a protein shake with steak and potatoes might prove to be too much of a good thing. But your choice..enjoy.
Good Luck..
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Working hard is one thing...working smart is another. Some never quite understand the point that they go well together, making the most of any time spent training.
Drinking a protein shake with steak and potatoes might prove to be too much of a good thing. But your choice..enjoy.
Good Luck..
yeah on the last part,lot of digestion from various protein forms..
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you can't go balls to the wall training every time
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So how much do you weigh at the moment? 167-168? Cutting until 160?
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So how much do you weigh at the moment? 167-168? Cutting until 160?
165 and cutting til i hit that previous condition, which will be 160 to 162 me thinks
i'm almost there now, VERY CLOSE
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165 and cutting til i hit that previous condition, which will be 160 to 162 me thinks
i'm almost there now, VERY CLOSE
get that 190 offseason full/and lean but not dryish ,,,175 top condition or close dieted in the end... ,,,
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get that 190 offseason full/and lean but not dryish ,,,175 top condition or close dieted in the end... ,,,
the goal will be to stay ripped and dry while slowly adding lean muscle tissue
basically i'll have to eat fairly clean and keep the cals in check while training hard and effectively
Simeon Panda does the same thing 8)
I have never bulked even once in all the years I’ve been training, it’s not how I do things. I eat clean, stay lean and build mass gradually.
Being a fitness model means that a shredded look is required all year round. Unlike a competitive bodybuilder, who looks freaky for a select few dates of the year, Simeon Panda cannot neglect or cheat on his diet. If he doesn’t maintain a ripped physique year round, it means that he cannot participate in fitness shoots, which means he cannot work.
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the goal will be to stay ripped and dry while slowly adding lean muscle tissue
basically i'll have to eat fairly clean and keep the cals in check while training hard and effectively
Simeon Panda does the same thing 8)
I have never bulked even once in all the years I’ve been training, it’s not how I do things. I eat clean, stay lean and build mass gradually.
Being a fitness model means that a shredded look is required all year round. Unlike a competitive bodybuilder, who looks freaky for a select few dates of the year, Simeon Panda cannot neglect or cheat on his diet. If he doesn’t maintain a ripped physique year round, it means that he cannot participate in fitness shoots, which means he cannot work.
i hear ya...
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT
my weight is down another four pounds in three days
t3 kinda works i guess :D :D :D
and last night i even ate a double quarter pounder with cheese and two big macs and a large coke WOW :o :o :o :o
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Tricks of the trade eh?
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here's a few flab shots lol
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Tricks of the trade eh?
yep, and i'll be getting clen here in a week or so so i'll give it a go
never used clen before, so it should be interesting 8)
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT
my weight is down another four pounds in three days
t3 kinda works i guess :D :D :D
and last night i even ate a double quarter pounder with cheese and two big macs and a large coke WOW :o :o :o :o
damn
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the goal will be to stay ripped and dry while slowly adding lean muscle tissue
basically i'll have to eat fairly clean and keep the cals in check while training hard and effectively
Simeon Panda does the same thing 8)
I have never bulked even once in all the years I’ve been training, it’s not how I do things. I eat clean, stay lean and build mass gradually.
Being a fitness model means that a shredded look is required all year round. Unlike a competitive bodybuilder, who looks freaky for a select few dates of the year, Simeon Panda cannot neglect or cheat on his diet. If he doesn’t maintain a ripped physique year round, it means that he cannot participate in fitness shoots, which means he cannot work.
Lol. Not sure if serious. Simeon Panda is huge and probably takes high doses year round to maintain that hard look. He doesn't even have to eat clean or watch his diet much. He can eat whatever he wants within reason and stay ripped, but not super dry and then cut for a little to get dry. He's probably on GH too, which helps him get away with even more food and look 3D.
Props on the tight waist though.
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Lol. Not sure if serious. Simeon Panda is huge and probably takes high doses year round to maintain that hard look. He doesn't even have to eat clean or watch his diet much. He can eat whatever he wants within reason and stay ripped, but not super dry and then cut for a little to get dry. He's probably on GH too, which helps him get away with even more food and look 3D.
Props on the tight waist though.
he claims to eat this every single fucking day non stop, although i call bullshit on it
Meal 1: Oats, Banana & Almonds
Meal 2: Rice Cakes & Cottage Cheese
Meal 3: Wholegrain Rice, Chicken Breast & Vegetables
Meal 4: Wholegrain Rice, Chicken Breast & Vegetables
Meal 5: Wholegrain Rice, Chicken Breast & Vegetables
Meal 6: 8 Egg Whites & Smoked Salmon
Meal 7: Mackerel & Vegetables
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Isn't he like 205?
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Isn't he like 205?
:D :D :D
The first step is to find the physical stats of the subject we want to analyze. According to the profile of Simeon Panda on modelmayhem.com {link} the measurements and weight of Simeon Panda are:
Simeon Panda - Natural or Not?
Image via: twitter.com
Height:
6′ 1″ (185cm)
Weight:
234 lbs (106kg)
Waist:
31″ (70cm)
Chest:
50″ (79cm)
While there is no information about the body fat levels of Simeon Panda it’s obvious that it’s not more than 7% in most of the pictures. The mid-section of the bodybuilder in question is very detailed, the serratus anterior muscle is crisp clean, the spinal erectors are “shredded” and Panda has the so-called Christmas tree lower back (as seen in the photo below).
Simeon Panda - Natural or Not?
Image via: bodybuilding.com
Note how the lower back is so ripped that a Christmas tree shape is formed.
All of this proves that his bodyfat is no more than 7%. On top of that, most professional fitness models stay between 5% bodyfat and 7% during the majority of the year, because unless they are constantly in shape they may lose opportunities to make money from photo shoots and other modeling events.
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This dude is juiced to the gills. If u trying to look like him u only need what? a good 60-70lbs of mass those stats r similar to Arnold's when he was on stage
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This dude is juiced to the gills. If u trying to look like him u only need what? a good 60-70lbs of mass those stats r similar to Arnold's when he was on stage
yeah i know he's roided out and frankly i don't want to be that damn big a buck 70 at 5% is my goal
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he claims to eat this every single fucking day non stop, although i call bullshit on it
Meal 1: Oats, Banana & Almonds
Meal 2: Rice Cakes & Cottage Cheese
Meal 3: Wholegrain Rice, Chicken Breast & Vegetables
Meal 4: Wholegrain Rice, Chicken Breast & Vegetables
Meal 5: Wholegrain Rice, Chicken Breast & Vegetables
Meal 6: 8 Egg Whites & Smoked Salmon
Meal 7: Mackerel & Vegetables
Lol dude. You are old enough to know these are all lies. Don't be naive. Didn't you watch that vid in which Simeon was polygraphed and did a hair test to prove he is natty? He is a pathological liar and chose the most ineffective methods to test.
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yeah i know he's roided out and frankly i don't want to be that damn big a buck 70 at 5% is my goal
Why don't you up the dose then ??? ??? ??? You will be at 160 at the same condition as before, which wasn't 5%, albeit not far. You still need 20 lbs of dry muscle to reach your goals. Your low doses won't cut it.
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Why don't you up the dose then ??? ??? ??? You will be at 160 at the same condition as before, which wasn't 5%, albeit not far. You still need 20 lbs of dry muscle to reach your goals. Your low doses won't cut it.
HIS ANSWER WILL BE GOOD... ;D
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HIS ANSWER WILL BE GOOD... ;D
;D ;D ;D
Why don't you up the dose then ??? ??? ??? You will be at 160 at the same condition as before, which wasn't 5%, albeit not far. You still need 20 lbs of dry muscle to reach your goals. Your low doses won't cut it.
so 170 minus 160 is 20 lbs of dry muscle :D :D :D i'm a dry lean 161 now dude, so it's 10 dry pounds of muscle, not 20 ;)
i think i can do it while staying low dose, coz i train like a dumbass slash pussy lol so if i continue to train hard and effectively with this trainer i got, then i bet i'll be able to do it while staying low dose ;)
it's not all drugs that's fucking bullshit as i was up to 700 mg of test and tren every week but training like a shithead and i made ZERO muscle gains
yeah you'll make more gains with high dose and hard effective training but for my goals i bet i can achieve them with low dose and hard effective training, time will tell
p.s. i just had two mcdoubles and a double quarter pounder with cheese and large coke 8)
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Cause you mentioned wanting 5% bf. At 160 you aren't 5%. Lean yeah, but not shredded with striations everywhere. You would have to weigh 150, which is why I'm saying 20 lbs :)
You were making zero gains on 700 mg of test and tren? Maybe you were taking bunk gear ??? ;D
And training is just a small factor, I've seen huge and lean dudes who train shitty.
Also, post pics doing the same poses as the old pics to compare ;)
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Cause you mentioned wanting 5% bf. At 160 you aren't 5%. Lean yeah, but not shredded with striations everywhere. You would have to weigh 150, which is why I'm saying 20 lbs :)
You were making zero gains on 700 mg of test and tren? Maybe you were taking bunk gear ??? ;D
And training is just a small factor, I've seen huge and lean dudes who train shitty.
Also, post pics doing the same poses as the old pics to compare ;)
what you don't understand is that a guy with average size muscles like me won't have look as shredded as a guy who has huge muscles at the same 5% bf
why? because those HUGE MUSCLES push the fat around better, making one look leaner ;)
so yeah, i'm damn near 5% right now, but i don't look it coz i'm not huge
also this camera on my phone sucks ass so it doesn't show my true leanness so well
i'll see if i can get my friend with a proper camera to take photos of me and then you will see wot i'm talking bout 8)
and yep pics with the same poses and the same camera ;)
and speaking of Simeon lies you gotta respect that the dude is honest about his waist size as he says here...
Simeon Panda is, supposedly, a professional natural bodybuilder and fitness model from London. The fitness and bodybuilding world consider his physique one of the most aesthetic ever because of his small 31 inch waist, shredded six pack abs and very powerful torso.
p.s. dildo heath claims to have a 29 inch waist LOL
ask those i the kow ad they will say the exact same thig ;) so, yeah i'm very ear 5% right ow
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All this doesn't matter 150 lbs or 170 lbs these 2 numbers mean u don't have any muscle. If u just start snorting coke lol u will have your goal in no time lol none of my business but McDonald's is shit for nutrition don't eat that shit doesn't even taste good. There is no point in being 5 percent if u don't have mass u gonna strip away all that fat to see what your ribs and bones in your clavicle? Just curious as to what is driving u towards this look? and using aas to do it
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All this doesn't matter 150 lbs or 170 lbs these 2 numbers mean u don't have any muscle. If u just start snorting coke lol u will have your goal in no time lol none of my business but McDonald's is shit for nutrition don't eat that shit doesn't even taste good. There is no point in being 5 percent if u don't have mass u gonna strip away all that fat to see what your ribs and bones in your clavicle? Just curious as to what is driving u towards this look? and using aas to do it
you're kidding right
p.s. he weighs 170 at my height 8)
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Yeah, that dude claims 6 ft and 170-175 lbs and has 18+ inch arms and decent legs. So, 170 is a good enough size for a small framed natty 5'11"-6'0", if truly shredded and taking a nice dose of trenbolona :D
If I was dj I would take some tren around 700 mg a week some test or anadrola close to a gram and some masteron, do that for a while and get up to like 200-210, THEN get ripped. You will stay pretty lean anyways with that stack ;)
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you're kidding right
p.s. he weighs 170 at my height 8)
dj he has great full arms ,,weighs 170 with no torso thickness tho,,from the side chest and back is shallow,he' has lean arms but chest is smooth no veins like his arms..i have said you would look pretty dan thick at 190 to 200 lbs blown up eating and on the stack mentioned by other guys here,,you will still be pretty hard but water filled look and big in clothes...take a few months chill and train heavy but smart..post more pics now then blow up show that look do it....
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Yeah, that dude claims 6 ft and 170-175 lbs and has 18+ inch arms and decent legs. So, 170 is a good enough size for a small framed natty 5'11"-6'0", if truly shredded and taking a nice dose of trenbolona :D
If I was dj I would take some tren around 700 mg a week some test or anadrola close to a gram and some masteron, do that for a while and get up to like 200-210, THEN get ripped. You will stay pretty lean anyways with that stack ;)
it's pretty funny you say that coz that's the exact cycle that god himself ie. gh 15 laid out for me :D :D :D
he's the stack he gave me: 150 mg tren eod
200 mg test prop eod
100 mg mast eod
100 mg drol ed
are you 15 bro ???
dj he has great full arms ,,weighs 170 with no torso thickness tho,,from the side chest and back is shallow,he' has lean arms but chest is smooth no veins like his arms..i have said you would look pretty dan thick at 190 to 200 lbs blown up eating and on the stack mentioned by other guys here,,you will still be pretty hard but water filled look and big in clothes...take a few months chill and train heavy but smart..post more pics now then blow up show that look do it....
thanks for the good words bro
maybe i'll run god's stack after i get a bit more cash, but you know me and my stubborn ways :D :D :D
p.s. i pulled a buck 55 for 10 full reps, last night, and yes, that was near max effort for me lol
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http://nattyornot.com/is-simeon-panda-natural-bodybuilder/
Who weighs 170 at your height?
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http://nattyornot.com/is-simeon-panda-natural-bodybuilder/
Who weighs 170 at your height?
Zach Zeiler, the guy in the video above. He is actually 6 ft and I think dj is 5'11". Simeon Panda is 6'1" and 235 and is huge.
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it's pretty funny you say that coz that's the exact cycle that god himself ie. gh 15 laid out for me :D :D :D
he's the stack he gave me: 150 mg tren eod
200 mg test prop eod
100 mg mast eod
100 mg drol ed
are you 15 bro ???
thanks for the good words bro
maybe i'll run god's stack after i get a bit more cash, but you know me and my stubborn ways :D :D :D
p.s. i pulled a buck 55 for 10 full reps, last night, and yes, that was near max effort for me lol
Lol I'm not gh15 :P But yeah, that sounds good, is that superdrol or halodrol or what? Yeah man, run that stack or something similar when you can and eat lol get above 200 lbs. How old are you?
Do you mean you pulled 155 for 10 on deadlifts ??? ??? ??? Pretty impressive :o
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good news fellas
i gained ack 4 pounds over the last 4 days and i'm still as lean 8) 8)
i didn't train the past three days and it gave me the rest i needed
i overtrain and it fucks up my gains
like god says... YOU GROW OUTSIDE THE GYM, YOU GROOOOOWWWWW OUTSIDE THE GYM, YOU GROOOOOOWWWWWW OOOOOUTSSSSSIDE THE GYM
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good news fellas
i gained ack 4 pounds over the last 4 days and i'm still as lean 8) 8)
i didn't train the past three days and it gave me the rest i needed
i overtrain and it fucks up my gains
like god says... YOU GROW OUTSIDE THE GYM, YOU GROOOOOWWWWW OUTSIDE THE GYM, YOU GROOOOOOWWWWWW OOOOOUTSSSSSIDE THE GYM
Lol. Did you change your stack? Those 4 lbs are just water and what did you eat to gain those 4 lbs back fella?
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Lol. Did you change your stack? Those 4 lbs are just water and what did you eat to gain those 4 lbs back fella?
just didn't train and rested
also i took two big shits before weighing in so it's wasn't food in the gut ;)
and my a skinfold went down half a mm
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just didn't train and rested
also i took two big shits before weighing in so it's wasn't food in the gut ;)
and my a skinfold went down half a mm
Where are the pics though ??? ???
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Where are the pics though ??? ???
the schmo, er my friend with the quality camera left town so i either gotta find a new schmo or get a new camera phone
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"don't think i'd make it, but i bet i'd might" 8)
FUCK YEAH buck seventy five at five percent HERE I COME 8) 8) 8)
and i'll stay at five percent while i do it ;) GERMANIC GENETICS FTMFW
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p.s. Zeiler is a GERMANIC surname, just like ZANE, MENTZER, PLATZ, WOLF, RUHL and ARNOLD 8)
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some damn strong training tunes, be blasting dis shit when i bust up bis and back tomorrow 8)
Doo doo, doo doo doo doo doo doo... ;D
and nice cock no homo
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the schmo, er my friend with the quality camera left town so i either gotta find a new schmo or get a new camera phone
Lmao. I take all my progress pics myself. Temporizer function in smartphone fella ;) Also, I think you should stop worrying about being ripped while growing. Just get FVCKING MASSIVE on 1g + of gear and eat... do it for a few months and then you can stay ripped all your life with good size 8) you won't be above 10-12% anyways even at 200 + lbs with those dosages. Keep the masteron all the time and you will avoid too much bloat.
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Lmao. I take all my progress pics myself. Temporizer function in smartphone fella ;) Also, I think you should stop worrying about being ripped while growing. Just get FVCKING MASSIVE on 1g + of gear and eat... do it for a few months and then you can stay ripped all your life with good size 8) you won't be above 10-12% anyways even at 200 + lbs with those dosages. Keep the masteron all the time and you will avoid too much bloat.
i see you're following me around to other threads chief, funny stuff :D :D :D
fyi, i don't want to be big ;)
p.s. analblow is on 250 mg of test only with wheels like this
high does is not needed ;)
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You need size dude.
Lots of it.
WW is wider than you man, I know he will quote this to compliment his sorry ass self, but fuck it...
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i see you're following me around to other threads chief, funny stuff :D :D :D
fyi, i don't want to be big ;)
p.s. analblow is on 250 mg of test only with wheels like this
high does is not needed ;)
You are an idiot >:(
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You are an idiot >:(
lol
why's that
do you think analblow is lying about his dose
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lol
why's that
do you think analblow is lying about his dose
Fuck yes. Don't trust anyone lol. You say you don't wanna be big, but do you realize with the gh15 protocol and what I told you to do you will only be 170-180 at a dry and legit 5% ??? ???
Also, I think you are old, right? 35+. Even those numbers would be hard to reach without a little GH :D
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analblow is nuts, but he's a honest guy, so i believe him
p.s. 180 at a dry and legit 5% is a BIG fucking guy, even at my height
you gotta remember bro, my wrists are less than six inches around, when you got TINY joints like this each added pound looks that much bigger ;)
some jumbo joint turd won't look as good at 180 at a dry and legit 5% as a tiny joint guy like me 8)
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Do you think I don't know about small joints ??? I'm an ectomorph myself and my wrists are small too. They probably would be around 6 inches if I was ripped. For me as a natty to stay lean I have to stay 140-155 and I'm 5'10,5". I'd be happy with anything between 170-190 shredded to the bone juiced 8) Same as you, except I wouldn't mind being big-ish. Still no money though and no legit contacts, so natty for a few years more still. Right now I'm 172 and I plan not to weigh more than 165 ever again as a natty, so time to cut ;D
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stop defending your build, you wear size medium t shirt and don't look like you lift with a shirt on.
FAIL.
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Do you think I don't know about small joints ??? I'm an ectomorph myself and my wrists are small too. They probably would be around 6 inches if I was ripped. For me as a natty to stay lean I have to stay 140-155 and I'm 5'10,5". I'd be happy with anything between 170-190 shredded to the bone juiced 8) Same as you, except I wouldn't mind being big-ish. Still no money though and no legit contacts, so natty for a few years more still. Right now I'm 172 and I plan not to weigh more than 165 ever again as a natty, so time to cut ;D
the question is... what's big
Zane looked better at 185 than he did at 200 and both times he was at the same bodyfat ie. stage contest weight
why did he look better lighter? because he lost his lines and aesthetics at the bigger weight
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But Frank Zane was 2 inches shorter than you and juicing hard. You'd have to be 195-200 to be the same size as him, which I think is impossible for you in that condition. My point is, 170-180 for you after the stack I mentioned and cutting. You'd have plenty of lines even at those weights if you have enough hormones. Or is 170 too big ??? Lol. I mean, you are 160-165 already and lean... common dude, you are not that far off... it's 10-20 lbs more and going from lean to shredded.
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told you guys dj like's the sound of his own words'voice' ;D,,,he's come a long way..i agree if u juice and hard take advantage of the hormone magic and blow up and then cut ,what matters ist is how big ya get and people telling you damn ur bigger and then the get the condition again 'you get frigging ripped we know',,quoting ur music analogies be styx'blue collar man and not 'mr roboto'
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told you guys dj like's the sound of his own words'voice' ;D,,,he's come a long way..i agree if u juice and hard take advantage of the hormone magic and blow up and then cut ,what matters ist is how big ya get and people telling you damn ur bigger and then the get the condition again 'you get frigging ripped we know',,quoting ur music analogies be styx'blue collar man and not 'mr roboto'
;D ;D ;D
But Frank Zane was 2 inches shorter than you and juicing hard. You'd have to be 195-200 to be the same size as him, which I think is impossible for you in that condition. My point is, 170-180 for you after the stack I mentioned and cutting. You'd have plenty of lines even at those weights if you have enough hormones. Or is 170 too big ??? Lol. I mean, you are 160-165 already and lean... common dude, you are not that far off... it's 10-20 lbs more and going from lean to shredded.
i'm trying to find my ideal ripped weight, and it's most likely 170-180 at five percent
i train for proportions as i strive to make all muscles match with each other, although my legs don't really match so well, but i'm working on it with my trainer ;)
i call myself physique artist ;D 8) and here is the original physique artist.... eyetalian american russ testo, is he your cousin nj ;D
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look out testo, here i come
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look out testo, here i come
MAN UP/TAN UP.. :D..RIPPED FOREARM THERE CHAMP...
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MAN UP/TAN UP.. :D..RIPPED FOREARM THERE CHAMP...
;D ;D ;D
that's a very tight and narrow waist there bro 8)
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6' 165 lbs
not bad
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=553877.25
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just had my bf checked at my gym via bio electrical impedance and it came out to be 8.2
i'd say that it's closer to 6 than 8, but that's ok coz i'll just use this as a reference point
i started up on clen today and i poped 80 mcg of it and it has me wired as fuck and cramping up and shit so i'll lower it down to 40 mcg to get used to it
the recommended dose of it is 20 to 160 mcg per day
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just had my bf checked at my gym via bio electrical impedance and it came out to be 8.2
i'd say that it's closer to 6 than 8, but that's ok coz i'll just use this as a reference point
i started up on clen today and i poped 80 mcg of it and it has me wired as fuck and cramping up and shit so i'll lower it down to 40 mcg to get used to it
the recommended dose of it is 20 to 160 mcg per day
what do U mean wired? Like equal to taking large amt of stims? Serious question
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what do U mean wired? Like equal to taking large amt of stims? Serious question
like jittery with rapid heart rate, i can literally hear my heart thumping in my chest
it's not a very pleasant feeling :-X :-\
it seems that lowest dose is 20 mcg but the pills i got are in a 40 mcg dose
i'll try 40 mcg and see if i can handle it lol
t3 doesn't case this wired feeling
on a side note my trainer said that my delts and arms are bigger but not my legs ad i've actually even been training the fuckers fairly hard, so i guess that i'm gonna have to train them even harder OH FUCK
I'M NOT A FAN OF LEG TRAINING
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like jittery with rapid heart rate, i can literally hear my heart thumping in my chest
it's not a very pleasant feeling :-X :-\
it seems that lowest dose is 20 mcg but the pills i got are in a 40 mcg dose
i'll try 40 mcg and see if i can handle it lol
t3 doesn't case this wired feeling
on a side note my trainer said that my delts and arms are bigger but not my legs ad i've actually even been training the fuckers fairly hard, so i guess that i'm gonna have to train them even harder OH FUCK
I'M NOT A FAN OF LEG TRAINING
remember increasing leg mass will also factor a bodyweight increase tenfold so maybe 5/10 lbs more added to get you to 180/190 offseason ..but if your taking stim's and staying too lean you will never add mass weight...ones got to go...
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remember increasing leg mass will also factor a bodyweight increase tenfold so maybe 5/10 lbs more added to get you to 180/190 offseason ..but if your taking stim's and staying too lean you will never add mass weight...ones got to go...
i want to gain only dry hard muscle tissue, no water and no fat, and clen t3 will help me do this 8)
ONLY DRY MUSCLE TISSUE GAINED BABY 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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i want to gain only dry hard muscle tissue, no water and no fat, and clen t3 will help me do this 8)
ONLY DRY MUSCLE TISSUE GAINED BABY 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
BE CAREFUL LONG TERM ON THAT SHIT...I'M NOT SAYING YOUR GOING TO BLOW OUT YOUR METABOLISM BUT YA GOTTA WATCH...
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BE CAREFUL LONG TERM ON THAT SHIT...I'M NOT SAYING YOUR GOING TO BLOW OUT YOUR METABOLISM BUT YA GOTTA WATCH...
i hear ya
i'll cycle between clen t3 and rather low doses of both
t3 at 25
clen at 40
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i gotta admit that it's nearly impossible to just add lean dry muscle tissue
so the plan is to go on mini bulks, cuts
i got my a skinfold down to three mm so that's my lean baseline and my bulk baseline will e six mm, so once i hit six mm time to cut
right now i'm at three and a half mm so time to put on some muscle tissue fellas ;)
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i gotta admit that it's nearly impossible to just add lean dry muscle tissue
so the plan is to go on mini bulks, cuts
i got my a skinfold down to three mm so that's my lean baseline and my bulk baseline will e six mm, so once i hit six mm time to cut
right now i'm at three and a half mm so time to put on some muscle tissue fellas ;)
BOUT TIME U REALIZED...BULK NOW CUT LATER,,YOUR NATUARALLY LEAN ANYWAYS,,
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BOUT TIME U REALIZED...BULK NOW CUT LATER,,YOUR NATUARALLY LEAN ANYWAYS,,
;D
here's a quote from god himself...
"i gave bad example with the 5'10 170lb ,, this is little too small ,, but 5'10 180-190 on diuretics... shredded peeled"
so it seems 180-190 is a good goal for me 8)
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Shoot for 190-200lbs before u cut again just don't get fat on the way eat more train hard sleep hard u r so lean u should soak in alot of calories and grow nicely just don't get your panties in a wad being bloated all the time, every once in a while u can cut carbs out for a weeks and drop some water and see where u r you would b surprised how lean u stay if u eat quality foods to grow.
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Shoot for 190-200lbs before u cut again just don't get fat on the way eat more train hard sleep hard u r so lean u should soak in alot of calories and grow nicely just don't get your panties in a wad being bloated all the time, every once in a while u can cut carbs out for a weeks and drop some water and see where u r you would b surprised how lean u stay if u eat quality foods to grow.
what's funny is that the clen is making me hungry as hell, i'm using it for lean bulk purposes ie. eat more shit and gain less fat ;)
i'll weigh in today and report back on my gains
i found a strength rating chart for squat dead and bench and my bench is near advanced levels while my squat and dead are slightly above novice levels LOL
http://dc-training.blogspot.com/2005/07/squat-standards-for-bodybuilders.html
http://dc-training.blogspot.com/2010/07/deadlift-standards-for-bodybuilders.html
http://dc-training.blogspot.com/2006/07/bench-press-standards.html
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gained three pounds in one week
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Shoot for 190-200lbs before u cut again just don't get fat on the way eat more train hard sleep hard u r so lean u should soak in alot of calories and grow nicely just don't get your panties in a wad being bloated all the time, every once in a while u can cut carbs out for a weeks and drop some water and see where u r you would b surprised how lean u stay if u eat quality foods to grow.
x2....
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If u get to weighing close to 200 lbs your lifts will go up on the DL and squat don't worry about weight used during training just as long as u progress
Cool little charts for weights looked at mine in the 220 category and I'm "elite" in all 3
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If u get to weighing close to 200 lbs your lifts will go up on the DL and squat don't worry about weight used during training just as long as u progress
Cool little charts for weights looked at mine in the 220 category and I'm "elite" in all 3
that's pretty badass elite in all three
just finished legs and went to mcd's and ate a filet of fish, a double quarter pounder wit cheese and a big mac and washed it all down wit a large coke 8)
tomorrow i'll take the clen up to 160
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Lol look dude don't eat McDonald's wtf... lol u r gonna look like dog shit and hurt your health making up for it with clen and t3 and shit. U won't last long like that, if u train intense enough to grow u need quality calories in a surplus it's a fact. Gaining weight doesn't mean eat all the Bullshit u want to and take clen to burn it off the BS calories. It's not hard to eat right just get in the set schedule of doing it and do same shit everyday and train the same times every day u train. Cheats r good every once in awhile don't get me wrong but in moderation. But if all your excess calories come from cheats instead of chicken breast steaks and potatoes or whatever u won't look like u want to a shredded 180-190 at 5ft 7 isn't easy.
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Lol look dude don't eat McDonald's wtf... lol u r gonna look like dog shit and hurt your health making up for it with clen and t3 and shit. U won't last long like that, if u train intense enough to grow u need quality calories in a surplus it's a fact. Gaining weight doesn't mean eat all the Bullshit u want to and take clen to burn it off the BS calories. It's not hard to eat right just get in the set schedule of doing it and do same shit everyday and train the same times every day u train. Cheats r good every once in awhile don't get me wrong but in moderation. But if all your excess calories come from cheats instead of chicken breast steaks and potatoes or whatever u won't look like u want to a shredded 180-190 at 5ft 7 isn't easy.
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yeah x2....
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This dude is 5'11". He just needs to up the dose and eat. Clean, dirty whatever. As long as he doesn't drink canola oil all day lol ;D
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This dude is 5'11". He just needs to up the dose and eat. Clean, dirty whatever. As long as he doesn't drink canola oil all day lol ;D
these two fellas are IDEAL imo
both are under two bills at six foot tall
tiny joints FTW 8)
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a few shots taken today
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a few shots taken today
???...cmon take a real pic,,
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???...cmon take a real pic,,
that's my attempt at a artistic photo ;D
you can clearly see that my pecs are thicker than before ;)
once i'm ready, i'm find a photographer to take bodyart photos of me
i'll be ready for it sometime in april or may
remember chief.... i am a PHYSIQUE ARTIST ;) 8)
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U doing like white widow in these pics bro don't be ashamed u r lean as fuck post real pics it's easy,see self shot in the kitchen not in bathroom with light bulbs missing lol show what u have built..
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U doing like white widow in these pics bro don't be ashamed u r lean as fuck post real pics it's easy,see self shot in the kitchen not in bathroom with light bulbs missing lol show what u have built..
holy crap!! U look awesome man
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that's my attempt at a artistic photo ;D
you can clearly see that my pecs are thicker than before ;)
once i'm ready, i'm find a photographer to take bodyart photos of me
i'll be ready for it sometime in april or may
remember chief.... i am a PHYSIQUE ARTIST ;) 8)
:)..your a trip...keep plugging along..
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holy crap!! U look awesome man
Thank bud. The kitchen lighting makes for better pics lol
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rob riches 5'10" at a buck 75
PERFECT 8)
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Rob riches looks good but I like sadik hadzovic better, ideal.physique for me would b sadik but with bigger legs.
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Rob riches looks good but I like sadik hadzovic better, ideal.physique for me would b sadik but with bigger legs.
yep, wide shoulders atop a tight narrow waistline is unbeatable 8)
the thing about riches is that his arms look much fuller in that vid, compared to how they looked a few years ago
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give me some feedback here dudes
how are the proportions of my delts, pecs, arms ???
i'd say my delts are the best of the three but how do the arms and pecs compare to them
all's i do for direct delt work is strict laterals, no presses of any kind and no upright rows, my delt workout is a few sets of strict laterals and that's it lol
i train for shape, separation, detail, and proportions, and yep my quads have improved pretty well 8)
but what i'm asking for here is for feedback regarding the proportions of my delts, pecs and arms
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give me some feedback here dudes
how are the proportions of my delts, pecs, arms ???
i'd say my delts are the best of the three but how do the arms and pecs compare to them
all's i do for direct delt work is strict laterals, no presses of any kind and no upright rows, my delt workout is a few sets of strict laterals and that's it lol
i train for shape, separation, detail, and proportions, and yep my quads have improved pretty well 8)
but what i'm asking for here is for feedback regarding the proportions of my delts, pecs and arms
LOOKING MUCH BIGGER THAN I'VE SEEN AND STILL GOOD LEAN RATIO..DELTS ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND YOUR BEST ,YOU LOOK ACTUALLY PRETTY BALANCED ,,HARD TO GET TOTAL VIEW CHEST,NEED MORE TRAPS 'YOU LOOK'BETTER WITH A BIT MORE HEIGHT THERE'IMO'CHEST COULD USE SOME MORE THICKNESS 'MID/LOWER AREA..UPPER SEEMS TO FLOW INTO FR DELTS PRETTY GOOD.
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LOOKING MUCH BIGGER THAN I'VE SEEN AND STILL GOOD LEAN RATIO..DELTS ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND YOUR BEST ,YOU LOOK ACTUALLY PRETTY BALANCED ,,HARD TO GET TOTAL VIEW CHEST,NEED MORE TRAPS 'YOU LOOK'BETTER WITH A BIT MORE HEIGHT THERE'IMO'CHEST COULD USE SOME MORE THICKNESS 'MID/LOWER AREA..UPPER SEEMS TO FLOW INTO FR DELTS PRETTY GOOD.
thanks bro
and i guess i'll post a wheel pic soon :-X :-\ ??? :P
and i'll see if i can get my trainer to take a back shot tomorrow
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U should b focusing on being intense with squatting and over head pressing, heavy deadlifts, heavy leg presses, bench press heavy, barbell rows, weighted dips, weighted pullups, all these plus more food.
If I were u I would get to 200 lbs, then worry about proportion and touch shit up if need be.
U r lean and proportionEd good, u need that size and density that u want set your mind to get thick as fuck mode, keep it up.
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U should b focusing on being intense with squatting and over head pressing, heavy deadlifts, heavy leg presses, bench press heavy, barbell rows, weighted dips, weighted pullups, all these plus more food.
If I were u I would get to 200 lbs, then worry about proportion and touch shit up if need be.
U r lean and proportionEd good, u need that size and density that u want set your mind to get thick as fuck mode, keep it up.
THIS,,,only drawback is as one gets stronger and pushes ,injuries get sometimes in the way or joints ,knowing dj181 over the yrs here he gets complicated in his quest...
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U should b focusing on being intense with squatting and over head pressing, heavy deadlifts, heavy leg presses, bench press heavy, barbell rows, weighted dips, weighted pullups, all these plus more food.
If I were u I would get to 200 lbs, then worry about proportion and touch shit up if need be.
U r lean and proportionEd good, u need that size and density that u want set your mind to get thick as fuck mode, keep it up.
after the new year i'm most likely gonna blast sust at 750 mg six to eight weeks maye longer and keep mast in at 300 mg
i'd love to add primo in to ut it's too fucking expensive >:( >:( >:( >:(
i'll post the back shots here in a few hours... i'm curious how my back's proportions are in relation to my delts and arms, so we will see ;)
wheels shots ??? ??? ??? mmmm.. i'll pass on dat one lol
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U should really do the old classic test deca/npp and eat alot.of quality food there are people who have used that to go into a show its all about diet u wast masterone at 300mgs week and trying to get bigger it's uneccessary imo. Both Test deca or npp is cheap compared to primo. Also 6-8 weeks ide go 16-20 weeks for better results.
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i'm thinking about adding npp but i don't like that it's a wet compound >:(
i love being dry hard and detailed 8)
but i do like the fact that npp is very mild, like primo and mast
maye i could do test npp mast keeping test high ad the others low
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U wouldn't b dissappointed with npp gives u a good look while on it too more 3d I wasn't bloat made muscle pop out more actually in the pic i put of myself above^npp and sustanon and dbol is what I was on
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two bdb
so how's the proportions to back to delts to arms bros
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and btw my trainer is pushing my wheels the hardest and arms and torso quite hard and delts just a bit
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two bdb
so how's the proportions to back to delts to arms bros
I REMEMBER YOUR MOST RIPPED PICS BUT YOU WERE THIN,AND YOUR BACK WAS ALWAYS DETAILED ,,GOOD THICKNESS NOW IMPROVED,,NEED MORE UPPER/TRAP BACK THICKNESS ,,JUST LIKE FROM FRONT THE TRAPS...DELTS ARE GOOD,SOME MORE ARM THICKNESS'TRI'TO HANG A BIT,,JUST TO NIT PICK ON WHAT UR ASKING FOR 'EVALUATION'...PULLUPS AS WELL FOR MORE LAT HANG'POP'..VERY IMPROVED MAN...
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I REMEMBER YOUR MOST RIPPED PICS BUT YOU WERE THIN,AND YOUR BACK WAS ALWAYS DETAILED ,,GOOD THICKNESS NOW IMPROVED,,NEED MORE UPPER/TRAP BACK THICKNESS ,,JUST LIKE FROM FRONT THE TRAPS...DELTS ARE GOOD,SOME MORE ARM THICKNESS'TRI'TO HANG A BIT,,JUST TO NIT PICK ON WHAT UR ASKING FOR 'EVALUATION'...PULLUPS AS WELL FOR MORE LAT HANG'POP'..VERY IMPROVED MAN...
don't worry about the nit pick bro, coz that's what i want ;)
so it goes like this from these photos... delts one, bis two, back three, tris four ???
p.s. i purposely under-develop the traps coz i like the wide straight across shoulder look 8) i think thick high traps steal away from the pretty delt look ;D
and with the tri you are talking about the long head yes
i got pretty good lateral "outside" tri development i think, all kind of presses heavily stress the lateral outside head of the tris
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U look good super ripped still no need to worry about proportions just train and eat bro, u look great u just need more thickness, size,mass 190-200 lbs and u will have what many people see as the perfect physique. Looks like U don't need to worry about proportion unless u start doing chest and biceps 4 days a week, lol get that size man! Get it.
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U look good super ripped still no need to worry about proportions just train and eat bro, u look great u just need more thickness, size,mass 190-200 lbs and u will have what many people see as the perfect physique. Looks like U don't need to worry about proportion unless u start doing chest and biceps 4 days a week, lol get that size man! Get it.
thanks bro, we will see
at the start of the year i'll most likely just run 750 mg of sust, 50 mg of proviron and 50 mcg of t3
so for my next order i'll get those three compounds and maye get some drol as well, just in case
i'll save the mast for later on
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i'll be getting the sust before Xmas
these past two weeks i've upped the prop dose to 500 and i am thicker already 8)
i've stayed at low or no test for the past year or so and it seems like i made a big mistake doing so >:( >:( >:(
the dry compounds don't put size on me, even tren ace didn't put size on me
i'm predict i'll add twenty pounds in ten weeks, and that the vast majority of these twenty pounds will be dry lean muscle tissue 8)
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weighed in today and.... i've gained seven pounds this past week, so maybe i'll end up adding forty pounds in ten weeks :D :D :D
TEST>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tren
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Lol just don't get fat and u will do good scale weight is a big confidence boost grown men should b close to or over 200lbs my opinion.
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comparison pics two weeks and twelve pounds apart
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update
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What's your current weight in that new pic? Shitty quality though :-\ You look like you have gained a bit of muscle with a good deal of fat and water.
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What's your current weight in that new pic? Shitty quality though :-\ You look like you have gained a bit of muscle with a good deal of fat and water.
that's a twelve pound gain, i'm a buck 77
i'd say it's mostly water gain as my ab skinfold is only up one mm
i'll get up to a buck 85 or so then add in the ACE 8)
tren ACE recomps me VERY WELL, so once i start it my weight will stay the same while my fat and water drops, so i'll basically add lean dry tissue while dropping fat and bloat 8)
when i ran ACE before i ran it without test, big mistake, or with low test, this time round i'll run it with a good test dose
this here dude is six foot buck 85 8)
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185 in the fat pic or in the ripped one? It seems like he gained muscle while dropping that extra fluff.
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he's around 220 in the fat pic
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he's around 220 in the fat pic
He was as high as 226. Checked his 6 month transformation video. He got even drier than that pic. http://imgur.com/Flm0cee
Holy shit.
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He was as high as 226. Checked his 6 month transformation video. He got even drier than that pic. http://imgur.com/Flm0cee
Holy shit.
damn, now that is PEELED
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damn, now that is PEELED
How much do you think you'd weigh in that condition? ??? ???
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How much do you think you'd weigh in that condition? ??? ???
by may i'll be in that condition or near to it and i'll weigh round 175 i'd say
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Damn, so you plan on gaining 20 lbs of muscle in 4 months :o
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Damn, so you plan on gaining 20 lbs of muscle in 4 months :o
10 not 20, i'm my last ripped pics i was 165 and if i did a carb load/water drop i would have looked close to his condition
you probably don't know this, but if you do some water/carb manipulation it makes a HUGE DIFF in how lean you "look" even though you aren't leaner and you will weigh roughly the same, as the water under the skin will go inside the muscle, so you'll weigh the same and you have the same bodyfat level, but you'll "look leaner" if you do it right ;)
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this guy has been bugging the shit outta me, coz i love this RIPPED AND BONE DRY aesthetic look, but...... (and i can't believe that i'm saying this) he is toooo damn ripped and dry
who knows? maybe i'm just telling myself this to take some pressure off of myself LOL
plus i want to be at a condition that i can hold and maintain indefinitely, so 6% DRY is where it's at for me, fuck 4% BONE DRY
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this guy has been bugging the shit outta me, coz i love this RIPPED AND BONE DRY aesthetic look, but...... (and i can't believe that i'm saying this) he is toooo damn ripped and dry
who knows? maybe i'm just telling myself this to take some pressure off of myself LOL
plus i want to be at a condition that i can hold and maintain indefinitely, so 6% DRY is where it's at for me, fuck 4% BONE DRY
dude that is impossible to maintain,and only a few could truly appreciate that look and its not 'women'imo,,,lean/abs but thick muscle is the look this guy is in impressive condition but it looks shopped/sharpened ,,its impressive don't get me wrong,i don't think he's strong either not thats the be all but some strenght to go with thew thickish build looks best ...
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dude that is impossible to maintain,and only a few could truly appreciate that look and its not 'women'imo,,,lean/abs but thick muscle is the look this guy is in impressive condition but it looks shopped/sharpened ,,its impressive don't get me wrong,i don't think he's strong either not thats the be all but some strenght to go with thew thickish build looks best ...
agreed, he is too damn ripped and dry
i'd say this level of leanness/dryness (see inserted pic) is maintainable year round
i'm working on recomping at that moment ie. staying the same bodyweight but getting leaner and drier along the way and it's working pretty well :)
i'll most likely post update pics by the end of feb, but i'll probably post up a wheel pic here in a week or two, i just gotta shave my fucking legs :D
p.s. i'm gonna do the recomp on test only, i was always leery of test coz of my paranoia about being relatively dry and not bloated, but it really does seem that test is all you really need, that is if you're a PHYSIQUE ARTIST like me 8) but, if ya wanna be a bigass mass monster then you'll need to throw in the gh/slin combo but that's not my gig
currently my weigh is staying round 175 and my trainer said that i am leaner and drier now and my muscle hardness and separation has improved rather nicely, so it is going as planed 8)
p.p.s. weds is leg day and i warned my trainer that i may call in sick on this day, and she said that if i do she'll kick my ass, and yes my trainer is female and she does fight in tournaments, so i best be careful around her LOL
i also told her about your dudes comments on my upper body and it's proportions, and particularly what you said about adding a bit more size to the long head of my triceps, so she's been focusing on that with me, as well as adding overall size/thickness to the bis
she says my best parts are my delts and pecs, delts first pecs second, so i'm curious... do you agree bro? (my pecs have sized up moreso recently and i attribute it the db flyes and presses we've recently been doing, as we switched our focus on over to them rather than bb bench just about 3 weeks ago, and you'll see these bigger/thicker pecs in my next update pic 8))
and yep, she wants me to add some size to my wheels but as you know that's a bitch for me as i ain't as driven training my wheels as i am training arms pecs and delts (although i don't really train delts so much since even i know they are my best part)
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here's the wheel pic but with unshaved legs :D
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here's the wheel pic but with unshaved legs :D
NOT BAD....
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NOT BAD....
thanks bro
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here's the wheel pic but with unshaved legs :D
nice vascularity :o
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here's the wheel pic but with unshaved legs :D
nice sweep.
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^^^ thanks fellas
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just added in drol @ 100 mg ed and dropped the sust down to 350 mg per week (ie. one amp every 5 days) before i was running one amp eod which is 875 mg per week
right before i added on the drol i got down to my near previous level of conditioning that i had on tren (and i know for sure i would have achieved that level of condition within another 2 or 3 weeks) so this clearly shows me that....... DIET=CONDITION
fuck "hardeners" i don't really need them as conditioning comes rather "easily" for me, what i need are "thickeners" like test/drol/deca
it seems that for some guys like me conditioning comes easier, but for other thickness/fullness comes easier, so in this case, these guys that thicken/full up should rely more on hardeners and "condition" guys like me need to rely more on the "thickeners" ie. test/drol/deca
that's my theory at least
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Interesting. PM coming...
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Any new pics ???
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Any new pics ???
i'll take some in a few weeks chief
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Now u see it!!! Play with your diet until u can gain the mass but tighten it back up it quickly the bloated and glycogen storage is minor as long as fat gain is minimum. Mass drugs make size test deca but keep body fat in check. Keep us posted on how the drol does you with lower test that's my style for cutting up and honestly a little npp split 3x week with your test dosage and the drol sounds awesome. 3 drugs at once is always a better look
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the drol seems to be kicking in nice and steady now, so i'll take some pics tomorrow at the gym in my tiny black string tank and post them up here..... LOOK OUT FELLAS, coz here i come 8)
physique artist FTMFW 8)
sadik who????
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the drol seems to be kicking in nice and steady now, so i'll take some pics tomorrow at the gym in my tiny black string tank and post them up here..... LOOK OUT FELLAS, coz here i come 8)
physique artist FTMFW 8)
sadik who????
post em up baby!
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shit! goddamn! m0therfvker!!!!!
this camera really doesn't do my physique justice as i look MUCH BETTER in real >:( >:( >:( FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I would strongly advise converting to natural bodybuilding. If your diet, training and drug regimen are all in order than it's obvious this hardcore bb thing isn't in the cards for you.
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I would strongly advise converting to natural bodybuilding. If your diet, training and drug regimen are all in order than it's obvious this hardcore bb thing isn't in the cards for you.
agreed, but i'm not into the mass game, my goal is 170-175 @ a dry 5% and i doubt i can achieve that natural
but i can probably do it on low dose, say 250-350 test and an oral cycled in and out
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shit! goddamn! m0therfvker!!!!!
this camera really doesn't do my physique justice as i look MUCH BETTER in real >:( >:( >:( FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
god I hate it when guys wear those gay ass tank tops.
Son, you disappoint.
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god I hate it when guys wear those gay ass tank tops.
Son, you disappoint.
n'est pas avec savoir faire ???
how about this one bro?
this is actually a damn cool top imho 8)
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getting lean and dry again and my weight is staying the same so all is good 8)
once my ab skinfold gets down to 3 mm i'll post an update pic, here is my last pic with a 3 mm ab skinfold and i was a buck 65 and this time around i should be a buck 75 so it will be very interesting to see what a 10 pound LEAN AND DRY MUSCLE gain will look like
this will take me 2 weeks or less ;)
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n'est pas avec savoir faire ???
how about this one bro?
this is actually a damn cool top imho 8)
I think you translated that word for word or something, it does not make any sense but what does make sens is the other gym top! Nice choice on that.
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just did some strength testing and here are my results ;D
bench 155 for 12 reps til failure
curl 90 for 12 reps til failure
squat 110 for 11 reps til failure
dead 155 for 9 reps til failure
brutal strength huh? ;D what funny is that i was stronger as a natty @ a buck 55 @ 6% bf than i am as an enhanced "athlete" @ a buck 70 @ 5% bf
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hey ritch, what you think of this top mon ami?
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hey ritch, what you think of this top mon ami?
delts look good,bi's,,,what are doing for tris,,,need to hit them hard 'close grip presses,overhead rope extensions..heavy lower reps 6-10 but good solid form..then maybe a lighter pump day...in betwwen on a rested day 'few days apart.
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delts look good,bi's,,,what are doing for tris,,,need to hit them hard 'close grip presses,overhead rope extensions..heavy lower reps 6-10 but good solid form..then maybe a lighter pump day...in betwwen on a rested day 'few days apart.
thanks bro
yeah i actually do overhead rope extensions and pressdowns with the rope as well
so maybe i need to add in close grips and/or dips?
my pecs are improved as well, so next pic i'll try and include them in the shot, i'll also add in a back double bi as well
for bis i've been doing 3 grip (wide, close, normal) curls with a straight bar standing and also with an ez bar on the preacher curl bench
i was doing hammers alot, but i cut back on them and focused more on the 3 way curls
p.s. i'm more ripped that that pic indicates (shit blared lighting on a shit camera phone >:() maybe i'll take an in the gym action shot of me curling then you will clearly see my excellent conditioning with great detail and separation 8) ;D
and i'm happy to report i hit this level of conditioning without t3 and/or clen, also i'm only running test, and it appears that i don't need these hardeners like tren ace, mast, winny etc so that's cool 8)
in fact, it seems like i should have just stuck with test injects all along, oh well, live and learn
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here's a few in the gym action shots in ritch's favorite top ;) ;D
the first 2 are straight on with darker and lighter imaging
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Keep it going.some good vein s.keep eating your still pretty lean
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Keep it going.some good vein s.keep eating your still pretty lean
i've decided to re-focus on some strength training/strength building so that should add some dry lean muscle tissue on to me ;)
i've been running sust only but i've gotta make a new order next week and i'm thinking about adding in deca, but maybe i can just stay with sust only and focus on the strength building to add some more lean dry tissue?
i'm 76.5 kg now, and if i went to 90 kg i could clean house as a light-heavy bro, yeah i'm a bit of an egotistical douche but i have the genetics to back it up 8)
i'm thinking 80 kg DRY CONDITIONED is good enough for me, so about 4 more kilo
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i'll start up 700 mg sust and 400 mg deca this week
sitting @ a buck 70 5% goal is 5-10 more DRY LEAN MUSCLE TISSUE
been getting compliments left and right about my great physique, feels good baby 8) 8) 8)
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finally starting to look like a bodybuilder for fucks sake
started deca a little over 2 weeks ago and i've gained nearly 6 pounds over those 2 weeks and now i'm starting to get those round full Mentzer-muscles 8) 8) 8) 8)
i'll post up a pic or two soon
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here's a pic from today
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Great arms
Good job!
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Great arms
Good job!
thanks bro, i'll try and keep the size gains going, with the plan to add another 10-12 quality pounds, we will see
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took this pic on friday, and what's strange is that the scale weight hasn't changed but i "look" fuller/thicker ???
oh well, it's all about looks anyways 8) fuck the tape measure and scale
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took this pic on friday, and what's strange is that the scale weight hasn't changed but i "look" fuller/thicker ???
oh well, it's all about looks anyways 8) fuck the tape measure and scale
Whatever happened to this strapping, young homosexual?
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Whatever happened to this strapping, young homosexual?
;D
just took this pic on saturday i'm the biggest i've ever been in a fairly lean condition
buck 77.5