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Title: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: joswift on October 18, 2021, 01:34:00 PM
those delts  ::)

Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Hypertrophy on October 18, 2021, 03:11:49 PM
Something ain't right- I just can't put my finger on it, haha
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: bLuEeYes on October 18, 2021, 03:15:10 PM
His biceps peak is looking suspicious here.

Still better Mr.O than Phil Cheatah

Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: funk51 on October 18, 2021, 03:15:55 PM
oils well that ends "well"
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Omega Male on October 18, 2021, 03:18:43 PM
Looks real to me.

Really seo'd and fake.

Nowadays they have more delt mass than pec mass which shouldn't be so. Back in the day their arms and delts were about the same size, and sometimes their arms were bigger than their delts, the way it should be.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: TheShape. on October 18, 2021, 03:39:09 PM
He honestly doesn’t have the wow factor of other Mr. Olympias.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: wes on October 18, 2021, 04:05:44 PM
He sux !!
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: TheAnimal on October 18, 2021, 04:18:55 PM
His face looks so depleted there  :o
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Bevo on October 18, 2021, 04:22:32 PM
His biceps peak is looking suspicious here.

Still better Mr.O than Phil Cheatah

2012 Phil is better than any version of ramy
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Royalty on October 18, 2021, 04:25:08 PM
He honestly doesn’t have the wow factor of other Mr. Olympias.

He lost a lot of muscle as he dieted down.

I would drop Chad ASAP. He is moving in the wrong direction.

Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Bevo on October 18, 2021, 04:28:36 PM
He lost a lost of muscle as he dieted down.

I would drop Chad ASAP.He is moving in the wrong direction.

Maybe Ramy’s kidneys will drop first?
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Marty Champions on October 18, 2021, 04:33:01 PM
Ohearn is more asethic
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Megalodon on October 18, 2021, 04:34:21 PM
Protractor delts

(https://i.postimg.cc/XNHHLq73/pro.jpg)
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Omega Male on October 18, 2021, 07:03:29 PM
Ohearn is more asethic

That's true and his contest waist is 40+ fucking inches :D :-X
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: ThisisOverload on October 18, 2021, 11:51:31 PM
And there are still people who don't believe they all shoot oil into their muscles.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Omega Male on October 19, 2021, 12:01:47 AM
And there are still people who don't believe they all shoot oil into their muscles.

Delts and arms yes, but pecs and legs as well?
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 19, 2021, 02:25:30 AM
Why does the IFBB allow this?  They could end this overnight by penalizing bodybuilders for having oil.
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Post by: G_Thang on October 19, 2021, 02:36:37 AM
Not sure what happen but Brandon was clearly ahead of this dude going into the finals,

Team Brandy Leaver
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 19, 2021, 03:58:42 AM
Delts and arms yes, but pecs and legs as well?

Ramy supposedly did/does shoot his quads something crazy. A while back everyone was saying it was obvious. And they look like he did. Even Palumbo said so, though he had heard it was "water based stuff" which I take to mean hyaluronic acid. This product was/is mostly a fad, don't know how popular it still is. Just an extremely short acting volumizing of a muscle.

Why does the IFBB allow this?  They could end this overnight by penalizing bodybuilders for having oil.

Because everyone is doing it, and in many cases it isn't "obviously" true where everyone agrees.

Many commentators think Hadi would have won the O if not for the delts. It was just too obvious this time around and there was so much talk about it, by Aceto, Palumbo etc.
Someone here on GB said Hany told Aceto at the O that he cost Hadi the Olympia. Hadi had actually said he would sue Aceto about a month or so back  :D
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: ThisisOverload on October 19, 2021, 04:20:44 PM
Delts and arms yes, but pecs and legs as well?

Yes they do.

Pecs are tricky because they can get balled up easily.

Absolutely most of them shoot quads.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Omega Male on October 19, 2021, 07:28:44 PM
Yes they do.

Pecs are tricky because they can get balled up easily.

Absolutely most of them shoot quads.

That sucks. And thanks for answering.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: bhank on October 19, 2021, 07:30:16 PM
And there are still people who don't believe they all shoot oil into their muscles.

So if 2 guys do it then everyone does it??
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Earl1972 on October 19, 2021, 08:05:10 PM
i don't like his body at all

long torso
high lats
overpowering quads
tiny calves
nonexistent lower back

he's got timing on his side as phil hit the wall and rhoden might not be allowed to compete again over an accusation

E
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Lartinos on October 19, 2021, 09:08:01 PM
I think it will either go down as the year of the awful looking delts (top 2 at Arnold had the ridiculous delts too) or we are ushering in a new shitty standard for what they will be looking like in the future.

Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 20, 2021, 01:42:43 PM
So much oil in that body.  Hadi should have won. He had striations in his muscles. Rami was bloated and soft looking. Bodybuilding had gone seriously down hill. 
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: ThisisOverload on October 20, 2021, 01:52:31 PM
So if 2 guys do it then everyone does it??

Don't try and get philosophical with me hanky.

Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: MAXX on October 20, 2021, 01:57:06 PM
Mr. Oilympia... Those mid delts LOL

 He's on a downwards slope anyways. Lats are going away and his arms are getting smaller. Myabe he will shoot more oil to make up for it and it will look terrible
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Omega Male on October 20, 2021, 02:25:19 PM
Mr. Oilympia... Those mid delts LOL

 He's on a downwards slope anyways. Lats are going away and his arms are getting smaller. Myabe he will shoot more oil to make up for it and it will look terrible

All of them have small arms in comparison to their torso and delts.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 21, 2021, 05:13:22 AM
Take a look at this comparison. Quite shocking really. Although I've said before that Ramy may have been at his best at 2013-14

Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: TheShape. on October 21, 2021, 06:08:12 AM
Take a look at this comparison. Quite shocking really. Although I've said before that Ramy may have been at his best at 2013-14
They never win it when they look full and fresh, it’s until they “pay their dues”
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on October 21, 2021, 06:24:21 AM
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH INSTEAD OF GIVING BLOOD HE GIVES OIL TO JIFFY LUBEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Fortress on October 21, 2021, 10:29:10 AM
They never win it when they look full and fresh, it’s until they “pay their dues”

Couldn’t have said it better.

Guy’s deteriorating, clearly.

Taking the amounts and variety of drugs these fellas do, the period in which they look their best is extremely limited. Relatively quickly the body begins to revolt and become increasingly damaged.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 21, 2021, 12:13:00 PM
They never win it when they look full and fresh, it’s until they “pay their dues”

Remember when Cutler beat Ramy at the O, it wasn't even close, Ramy murdered Jay.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: MAXX on October 21, 2021, 12:22:42 PM
it's like political correctness.

they go with what they think is "accepted" at the current time and not what's objectively the best.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: MAXX on October 21, 2021, 12:28:49 PM
Take a look at this comparison. Quite shocking really. Although I've said before that Ramy may have been at his best at 2013-14
btw. do you know what the pockets in his outer sweep is? Is this an effect of making a habit pinning alot in that area?
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: wes on October 21, 2021, 12:47:19 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=166977.0;attach=193885;image)

Great example of a pro who got out before he ruined his physique.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: wes on October 21, 2021, 12:49:20 PM
^^^^^^^^^Great example of a pro who got out before he ruined his physique.^^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 21, 2021, 12:58:48 PM
btw. do you know what the pockets in his outer sweep is? Is this an effect of making a habit pinning alot in that area?

That's what I'm trying to figure out. I don't know. I can just very faintly see a feathering starting to that area to his left leg in the 2014 pic. I do think it probably has to do with injections. Now that I think of it, I have a tiny dead area on one of my quads after an inject, atrophy.

Another thing, Chad seems to be saying Ramy took 6 months "off" after last years Olympia. No training. Probably a good strategy considering much he's competed.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Omega Male on October 21, 2021, 01:37:20 PM
That's what I'm trying to figure out. I don't know. I can just very faintly see a feathering starting to that area to his left leg in the 2014 pic. I do think it probably has to do with injections. Now that I think of it, I have a tiny dead area on one of my quads after an inject, atrophy.

Another thing, Chad seems to be saying Ramy took 6 months "off" after last years Olympia. No training. Probably a good strategy considering much he's competed.

In another thread I asked how you tore your pec but you didn't respond, could you please respond here? Did you tear it doing barbell bench? And was it on a max single or on the last rep of the set? Thanks.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 21, 2021, 01:51:55 PM
In another thread I asked how you tore your pec but you didn't respond, could you please respond here? Did you tear it doing barbell bench? And was it on a max single or on the last rep of the set? Thanks.

First time I was in a powerlifting bench shirt. Had about 500lbs on. The shirt tore along with my pec. Partial, muscular tear. No surgery.

Second one was about 2 years later. I was doing wide grip incline presses on the smith machine to the neck. Felt really strong that day. Had 120kg (265lbs). I had planned to do about 12 reps but it tore on rep 4 or 5.

Now I know that flaring the elbows on flat or incline is dangerous. I knew it then too but figure that since it was a 12 rep set I would be fine.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: njflex on October 21, 2021, 01:52:28 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=166977.0;attach=193885;image)

Great example of a pro who got out before he ruined his physique.
HE LOOKED AWESOME,,ALWAYS TOP SHAPE,WOULD HAVE MAYBE BEEN A 212 MRO OR TOP CONTENDER.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Bevo on October 21, 2021, 01:57:05 PM
HE LOOKED AWESOME,,ALWAYS TOP SHAPE,WOULD HAVE MAYBE BEEN A 212 MRO OR TOP CONTENDER.

He would be too “tall” for the 212 at 5’7 while most of the guys are 5’5 and shorter
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Omega Male on October 21, 2021, 01:58:42 PM
First time I was in a powerlifting bench shirt. Had about 500lbs on. The shirt tore along with my pec. Partial, muscular tear. No surgery.

Second one was about 2 years later. I was doing wide grip incline presses on the smith machine to the neck. Felt really strong that day. Had 120kg (265lbs). I had planned to do about 12 reps but it tore on rep 4 or 5.

Now I know that flaring the elbows on flat or incline is dangerous. I knew it then too but figure that since it was a 12 rep set I would be fine.

Thanks for the answer, you're a cool and good dude 8) I had a feeling that it sometimes happen in the middle of the set so now you've confirmed it. They were both or a bar, so do you think that dumbbells and hammers machines ar safer? And thanks for the tip about flaring the elbows.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: njflex on October 21, 2021, 02:15:57 PM
He would be too “tall” for the 212 at 5’7 while most of the guys are 5’5 and shorter
your right i thought of that ,that sux...he was stuck in no mans land,,still great build..
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Omega Male on October 21, 2021, 02:19:44 PM
your right i thought of that ,that sux...he was stuck in no mans land,,still great build..

Looks like his arms are actually bigger than his delts which is very rare these days.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Fortress on October 21, 2021, 02:19:56 PM
Chad seems to be saying Ramy took 6 months "off" after last year’s Olympia. No training.

Who loves lifting and takes half a year off?

Oh, yeah …
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 21, 2021, 02:29:50 PM
Thanks for the answer, you're a cool and good dude 8) I had a feeling that it sometimes happen in the middle of the set so now you've confirmed it. They were both or a bar, so do you think that dumbbells and hammers machines ar safer? And thanks for the tip about flaring the elbows.

Yes I think dumbell can be safer provided you don't flare your elbows. Look at the third and fourth slide here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUu6I5Tgudb/?utm_medium=copy_link

Hammers are built in a way you can't flare your elbows, angled handles and so on. If you are very big and can't get into pressing position easily there might be small risk after having done the last rep and you get that extra stretch racking the weight. But never saw anyone tear something on it.

Wide grip incline benches with elbows flared is probably the most dangerous exercise. I'm sure you saw that guy in Dubai get hurt a while back.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 21, 2021, 02:33:35 PM
Who loves lifting and takes half a year off?

Oh, yeah …

In his case it might be a good idea. Most likely Chad's idea. Ronnie did similar, I think he took 3-4 months totally off after his last wins. Maybe Ramy had some concerning bloodwork, he did want to go the hospital during prep for his first O, thought he was dying.

But now Chad says they have 14 months to make improvements.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: njflex on October 21, 2021, 02:52:04 PM
Looks like his arms are actually bigger than his delts which is very rare these days.
he had great arms...
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: ThisisOverload on October 21, 2021, 03:13:50 PM
First time I was in a powerlifting bench shirt. Had about 500lbs on. The shirt tore along with my pec. Partial, muscular tear. No surgery.

Second one was about 2 years later. I was doing wide grip incline presses on the smith machine to the neck. Felt really strong that day. Had 120kg (265lbs). I had planned to do about 12 reps but it tore on rep 4 or 5.

Now I know that flaring the elbows on flat or incline is dangerous. I knew it then too but figure that since it was a 12 rep set I would be fine.

Every time i've torn a muscle it was doing a relatively easy set.

I've never had a full tear, but ruptured fibers in my biceps, triceps, lats, teres and hamstrings many times.

Hamstring tears are extremely painful. Had a softball sized bruise and swelling for 6 weeks after some glute/ham raises.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Omega Male on October 21, 2021, 06:34:47 PM
Yes I think dumbell can be safer provided you don't flare your elbows. Look at the third and fourth slide here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUu6I5Tgudb/?utm_medium=copy_link

Hammers are built in a way you can't flare your elbows, angled handles and so on. If you are very big and can't get into pressing position easily there might be small risk after having done the last rep and you get that extra stretch racking the weight. But never saw anyone tear something on it.

Wide grip incline benches with elbows flared is probably the most dangerous exercise. I'm sure you saw that guy in Dubai get hurt a while back.

Good to know, thank you.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Omega Male on October 21, 2021, 06:35:33 PM
Every time i've torn a muscle it was doing a relatively easy set.

I've never had a full tear, but ruptured fibers in my biceps, triceps, lats, teres and hamstrings many times.

Hamstring tears are extremely painful. Had a softball sized bruise and swelling for 6 weeks after some glute/ham raises.

Were you performing those reps explosively?
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: ThisisOverload on October 22, 2021, 11:28:17 PM
Were you performing those reps explosively?

From the best of my knowledge, yes.

Nothing out of the ordinary though.

I do remember tearing a lat just by doing slow controlled weighted chins.

At the bottom of the movement i felt a pop and tear with a burning sensation.

Nothing i hadn't done many times before.
Title: Re: Ramis first workout after the Olympia
Post by: Omega Male on October 23, 2021, 12:43:09 AM
From the best of my knowledge, yes.

Nothing out of the ordinary though.

I do remember tearing a lat just by doing slow controlled weighted chins.

At the bottom of the movement i felt a pop and tear with a burning sensation.

Nothing i hadn't done many times before.

Thanks for the answer and sorry to hear about all of your injuries bro. Thank God I've never had an injury from weight training, just from basketball, had two knee surgeries.