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So King Mo proved tonight he belongs in the top 10 at LHW, it wasn't pretty but his wrestling (he's one of the most highly decorated freestyle wreslters currently in MMA) is sick and he ended Gergards 16 fight win streak. I said it before and I 'll say it again, his wrestling is that good and he's a champion now with a win over a solid top 10 fighter. I stand by my claim that he would be a contender in the UFC, especially with a few more solid wins and more time to improve. (I wonder how many people are gonna turn there backs on Gergard and call him overrated n all that shit).
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Agreed 110%.
Moussasi isn't overrated, he just had a poor gameplan and obviously didn't practice his takedown defense enough. The fight stats at the end painted a very different picture than what actually transpired. If you based the judging solely on that criteria, you would have thought Moussasi dominated from start to finish. Even at the fights conclusion, Mo's eye was closed, his face was puffy and Moussasi barely looked like he had gotten into a fight. He underestimated Mo's conditioning (which was stupid on his part) and overestimated his ability to mount any significant offense from his back.
As I alluded to in another thread, I think that now more than ever great wrestling ability is pretty much a foregone conclusion to MMA stardom.
Moussasi will come back and I think a rematch wont be far away. Mo is a great wrestler and tough as nails, but he is very one dimensional. I think in a rematch, Moussasi could or should win.
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king mo great heart tonight his future is bright....
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king mo great heart tonight his future is bright....
I was really impressed with his heart actually. At one point he looked so fatigued, I told my wife you usually don't "come back" from that point of fatigue (he's in great conditioning..his opponents weak aggression helped as well).
He pushed through it though and actually picked it up and pushed his opponent past his breaking point in fatigue and kept him there.
I was impressed.
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I was really impressed with his heart actually. At one point he looked so fatigued, I told my wife you usually don't "come back" from that point of fatigue (he's in great conditioning..his opponents weak aggression helped as well).
He pushed through it though and actually picked it up and pushed his opponent past his breaking point in fatigue and kept him there.
I was impressed.
same here...after the second rd I thought he was gassed to the point of no return...but he dug deep to a place most fighter don't have and fought a hell of a fight...
when he gets more experience and becomes well rounded watch out...He is young and has a high ceiling for improvement....
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So King Mo proved tonight he belongs in the top 10 at LHW, it wasn't pretty but his wrestling (he's one of the most highly decorated freestyle wreslters currently in MMA) is sick and he ended Gergards 16 fight win streak. I said it before and I 'll say it again, his wrestling is that good and he's a champion now with a win over a solid top 10 fighter. I stand by my claim that he would be a contender in the UFC, especially with a few more solid wins and more time to improve. (I wonder how many people are gonna turn there backs on Gergard and call him overrated n all that shit).
King Mo looked good, but still some big holes in his game. Cardio seemed to be lacking and definitely needs more time to develop his 'mma' game. I thing he has potential. Reminds me of a young Rashad. Not hating at all...but he is not even close to being a UFC contender. Really don't think that currently he belongs in the top 10, but a few more victories over bigger names like Mousasi and he will deserve the ranking.
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King Mo looked good, but still some big holes in his game. Cardio seemed to be lacking and definitely needs more time to develop his 'mma' game. I thing he has potential. Reminds me of a young Rashad. Not hating at all...but he is not even close to being a UFC contender. Really don't think that currently he belongs in the top 10, but a few more victories over bigger names like Mousasi and he will deserve the ranking.
haha...sorry but he could step in today and beat 75% of the 205lbs UFC fighters....give him 2 more years and that will jump to 95%...
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haha...sorry but he could step in today and beat 75% of the 205lbs UFC fighters....give him 2 more years and that will jump to 95%...
Really would be surprised if King ever makes it to the UFC. He has skills, but with his antics that he sometimes uses, it makes it really hard to find a place for him. He needs to be more well rounded, plain and simple.
Regardless, he is not in the UFC. So impossible to say how he would do.
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Really would be surprised if King ever makes it to the UFC. He has skills, but with his antics that he sometimes uses, it makes it really hard to find a place for him.
ha ha yea unlike the poster boy Dana white lap dogs guys like king mo and nick diaz are not comformists they are who they are....however if what you are talking about was actually the case then guys like rampage and Tito Ortiz would have been out of the UFC long ago...
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ha ha yea unlike the poster boy Dana white lap dogs guys like king mo and nick diaz are not comformists they are who they are....however if what you are talking about was actually the case then guys like rampage and Tito Ortiz would have been out of the UFC long ago...
I agree, Rampage can get trashed and then go for a drive and kill a baby, then run from the police, but there is no place in the UFC for guys like King Mo. He'll be there one day, him and Page hate each other. There is a video of them talking shit to each other in a van. King Mo is outspoken and a showman, plus he's got actual skill and he shows improvement in every fight. He really hasn't done anything that bad, other than show he has a personality.
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I agree, Rampage can get trashed and then go for a drive and kill a baby, then run from the police, but there is no place in the UFC for guys like King Mo. He'll be there one day, him and Page hate each other. There is a video of them talking shit to each other in a van. King Mo is outspoken and a showman, plus he's got actual skill and he shows improvement in every fight. He really hasn't done anything that bad, other than show he has a personality.
If Rampage killed a baby why was he never charged? What do you mean on Rampage being 'trashed'?
Tito and Rampage are part of the History of the sport. They have done a lot for the sport of MMA. They had there MMA 'personalities' way before MMA became mainstream.
Even Kimbo cleaned up his attitude to make it into the UFC. There is no room for any more 'bad attitudes' in a credible org.
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You really don't know about the Rampage incident? Tell us again how you've been watching MMA for years. ::)
There are plenty of guys with terrible attitudes in the UFC. The two poster boys for the UFC, Silva and Lesnar, consistently make the UFC look bad with their post-fight antics.
haha no doubt rampage has a mental break down slams his truck into a car killing an unborn baby but theres no room for bad attitudes in the UFC oh brother..
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The fact that he doesn't even know about it shows that he's ridiculous new to MMA. That shit was everywhere for a while. It was impossible to miss.
But I guess having a mental break down, being hopped up on drugs and killing an unborn child with your truck is OK in his book. ::)
haha yea tito and rampage are part of MMA history so they get a pass...Tito can yell derogatory things at Coleman (an MMA legend)after his final UFC bout...but theres no room for bad attitudes...
Lesner & silva can walk around with a god complex acting like there god's gift to the world but theres no room for bad attitudes....oh brother ::)
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You really don't know about the Rampage incident? Tell us again how you've been watching MMA for years. ::)
There are plenty of guys with terrible attitudes in the UFC. The two poster boys for the UFC, Silva and Lesnar, consistently make the UFC look bad with their post-fight antics.
Rampage was NEVER charged in killing that womans baby. He was never charged with DUI either,
Please stop making shit up.
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haha yea tito and rampage are part of MMA history so they get a pass...Tito can yell derogatory things at Coleman (an MMA legend)after his final UFC bout...but theres no room for bad attitudes...
Lesner & silva can walk around with a god complex acting like there god's gift to the world but theres no room for bad attitudes....oh brother ::)
King Mo will never be in the UFC. All he has shown is that he is another blanket wrestler that needs to learn stand up.
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Rampage was NEVER charged in killing that womans baby. He was never charged with DUI either,
Please stop making shit up.
He was only filmed running from cops then being taken down at gun point in a video that was posted all over the internet for the world to see, and the woman who lost her baby filed a lawsuit that was settled out of court for an undisclosed sum. How is King Mo and his personality worse than this?
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King Mo will never be in the UFC. All he has shown is that he is another blanket wrestler that needs to learn stand up.
They don't have any of those in the UFC ::)
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He was only filmed running from cops then being taken down at gun point in a video that was posted all over the internet for the world to see, and the woman who lost her baby filed a lawsuit that was settled out of court for an undisclosed sum. How is King Mo and his personality worse that this?
there's really no point bro...I'm pretty convinced logic and reason are not his best friend...
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He was only filmed running from cops then being taken down at gun point in a video that was posted all over the internet for the world to see, and the woman who lost her baby filed a lawsuit that was settled out of court for an undisclosed sum. How is King Mo and his personality worse than this?
Please tell me....Rampage was not convicted of any crime related to DUI or killing the woman's baby. He was convicted of evading police.
You do know that settling does not admit guilt right? Sometimes it is cheaper to settle then to fight charges. Even if innocent.
Again...Rampage has talent besides gassing in the 1st round and being a blanket the rest of the fight. Rampage sells seats. Rampage has a HUGE fan base.
Don't get me wrong though. When I say Mo doesn't have a place, I mean with all things considered. If King Mo could sell half the tickets/PPV's that Rampage does, the UFC would find a place for him. Get it?
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They don't have any of those in the UFC ::)
Exactly my point. Blankets are a dime a dozen. Big mouths are as well. This equals no room.
You are finally starting to understand.
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Please tell me....Rampage was not convicted of any crime related to DUI or killing the woman's baby. He was convicted of evading police.
You do know that settling does not admit guilt right? Sometimes it is cheaper to settle then to fight charges. Even if innocent.
Again...Rampage has talent besides gassing in the 1st round and being a blanket the rest of the fight. Rampage sells seats. Rampage has a HUGE fan base.
Don't get me wrong though. When I say Mo doesn't have a place, I mean with all things considered. If King Mo could sell half the tickets/PPV's that Rampage does, the UFC would find a place for him. Get it?
Rampage was charged with Felony hit and run and evading arrest, in addition to being successfully sued for causing the death of an unborn baby, in addition to being caught on camera by TMZ in the police chase then ordered to the ground at gunpoint by police on a busy freeway in broad daylight. Mo beat a legit top 10 fighter, don't tell me your going to start discrediting Gergard for losing? What makes you think Rampage would have done any better against Gergard? Gergard probably has a better chance of beating Quinton that he did MO. Your blind nutthugging knows no bounds ::)
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Exactly my point. Blankets are a dime a dozen. Big mouths are as well. This equals no room.
You are finally starting to understand.
You make it seem like Mo has no other abilities whatsoever, he actually has some hands. We just didn't really see them that much because Gergard is a world class kickboxer and decorated amatuer boxer. Mo actually did start landing on Gergard as the fight progressed. If anything Jake Shields is 10 times worse, Jake has been fighting for a long time and still has no stand up at all. Even on the ground with full mound he is pillow fisted. Just admit you want to let Dana teabag you and get it over with ;)
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Rampage was charged with Felony hit and run and evading arrest, in addition to being successfully sued for causing the death of an unborn baby, in addition to being caught on camera by TMZ in the police chase then ordered to the ground at gunpoint by police on a busy freeway in broad daylight. Mo beat a legit top 10 fighter, don't tell me your going to start discrediting Gergard for losing? What makes you think Rampage would have done any better against Gergard? Gergard probably has a better chance of beating Quinton that he did MO. Your blind nutthugging knows no bounds ::)
LOL just because he settled dont mean he caused that babys death ::)...hahaha
yea your dead on Rampage is a lazy chain smoker(I still like him over Page though)but I could see MO comin to the UFC and handling Rampage...ha ha then they would be on Mo's nuts since he would then be a UFC fighter and magically become credible in the nut huggers eyes...ha ha like I said man why even bother....
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Rampage was charged with Felony hit and run and evading arrest, in addition to being successfully sued for causing the death of an unborn baby, in addition to being caught on camera by TMZ in the police chase then ordered to the ground at gunpoint by police on a busy freeway in broad daylight. Mo beat a legit top 10 fighter, don't tell me your going to start discrediting Gergard for losing? What makes you think Rampage would have done any better against Gergard? Gergard probably has a better chance of beating Quinton that he did MO. Your blind nutthugging knows no bounds ::)
Rampage was not convicted of what you stated. Get it right.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Jackson-Pleads-Guilty-to-Felony-Misdemeanor-15717 (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Jackson-Pleads-Guilty-to-Felony-Misdemeanor-15717)
UFC star Quinton “Rampage” Jackson pleaded guilty on Thursday to reduced charges of one felony count of evading a peace officer and driving against traffic and one misdemeanor count of driving recklessly at the Central Justice Center in Santa Ana, Calif. Jackson was arrested on July 15 for a much publicized vehicular chase with authorities through the streets and sidewalks of Costa Mesa and Newport Beach, Calif.
Rampage was not successfully sued either. Please post your source and stop posting BS like BF.
King Mo is not CURRENTLY in the UFC. Really doesn't matter how anyone thinks he will do in the UFC.
He has a bunch of sub-par talent to fight before he gets anywhere near the big leagues.
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LOL just because he settled dont mean he caused that babys death ::)...hahaha
yea your dead on Rampage is a lazy chain smoker(I still like him over Page though)but I could see MO comin to the UFC and handling Rampage...ha ha then they would be on Mo's nuts since he would then be a UFC fighter and magically become credible in the nut huggers eyes...ha ha like I said man why even bother....
You would think if Rampage caused the baby's death he would have been convicted of manslaughter right?
Do you even understand the legal system?
Most commonly when a guy gets signed with the UFC, he is a legit fighter. So yes, if Mo earned a shot and was competitive after a few fights in the UFC, I would change my opinion a bit.
But reality is, he is NOT in the UFC. There is a reason.
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"Massive off-the books settlement"....Please quote source. There was no settlement period.
If you are going to argue please stop making shit up....It really is pointless.
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Once again....you back down and make shit up. I called you out earlier on what Rampage was charged/convicted of.
Keep posting B.S. Why are all your posts deleted? Stick up for yourself....
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Stick up for what, you stupid fuck? I have no problem defending myself on here nor can I stop Yemeni from deleting my posts. Seriously, you had ZERO idea that this event had even happened a few hours ago. Don't go acting like you have any idea what you're talking about now. Fact of the matter is that Rampage was charged with a laundry list of crimes and plea bargained his way out of it, having gotten quite the lenient bargain because of his celebrity status. The woman also filed suit and settled out of court for an undisclosed amount.
I guess it's "BS" because a fanboy like yourself who just started watching MMA didn't know about it. How you can call yourself a knowledgeable MMA fan and not have heard of this is beyond me.
Do some reading before you come in here acting like you're in the know. You're just embarrassing yourself now.
You sound upset. Please cool down a bit. It's not worth it. ;D
You always seem to know everything and you never prove anything. Trust me....I follow MMA. Have been for years and years. But if you want to think I am a newb that is fine.
All I ask if that you prove some of your statements. You always tell me to 'read up'. Prove yourself.
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Cops Say Jackson Went On Rampage
Originally posted Jul 15th 2008 3:48 PM PDT by TMZ Staff
Former UFC light heavyweight champ Quinton "Rampage" Jackson got busted just minutes ago, and is currently in custody on the way to the clink -- but not before he was ordered to the ground, cops nearby with guns drawn.
Law enforcement sources tell us, Rampage was in a car crash near Newport Beach (that's near Laguna Beach in the O.C.) and then split the scene. Cops gave chase and eventually caught up and charged him with felony hit and run and felony evading arrest.
Here's the deal about the dumbest hit and run ever. Notice the truck he tried evading police in -- the one with the giant picture of him plastered on the side!
We're told there could be additional charges. No word yet on whether Rampage resisted arrest.
A pregnant woman who was injured when Ultimate Fighting Championship fighter Quinton "Rampage" Jackson sideswiped her SUV last month has had a miscarriage.
The woman, Holli Griggs, suffered what were believed to be minor injuries in the July 15 crash, after which Jackson led police on a chase. It is not clear whether the crash directly led to the miscarriage, but her fiance, Bill Krebs, said doctors were immediately concerned when they noticed a significant loss of fluid in Griggs' womb after the accident, The Daily Pilot reports.
Ultimate Fighter, Former Light Heavyweight World Champion, Quinton “Rampage” Jackson, pleaded guilty on Thursday, January 8, 2009, to reduced charges from a July 15 road rage outburst that caused two car accidents.
The chase began after Jackson was in a hit and run automobile accident in Laguna Beach, California. You will remember Jackson led police on a chaotic chase towards Newport Beach, California. He certainly lived up to his nickname, “Rampage,” by having an obvious anger management car accident due to road rage.
Our auto accident attorneys have experience in handling case of crashes and accidents that could have been prevented if motorists’ road rage was kept under control. Instead, people let their emotions get the best of them and send someone to the hospital for medical treatment for an injury that could have been avoided.
“Based on the negotiated plea agreement, (Jackson) could receive up to six months in jail and probation at his sentencing,” read the press release by the Orange County District Attorney’s Office. “Prior to sentencing, Jackson is required to complete 200 hours of community service, attend mental health therapy, pay restitution and comply with other terms and conditions.”
The District Attorney said that additional restrictions on alcohol use and mandatory, court-ordered drug testing might also be included in the judgment. If Jackson complies with the above conditions, he may be able avoid jail time and just serve his probation. Jackson will be sentenced on January 7, 2010.
It seems as though Jackson may get off extremely lightly after his July 15th road rage on California roads that caused two automobile accidents.
The auto accident attorneys at our firm believe that there is no place on the road for the type of behavior Jackson displayed on roadways. In our opinion, Jackson made a decision that his well-being, not being caught by the police, was more important than anyone else. For example, he could have injured or killed innocent pedestrians as well.
How can it be possible that despite causing a pair of accidents, evading police, driving on the wrong side of the street, talking on a cell phone while driving and ultimately endangering the safety of anyone unfortunate enough to be on the road with him that Jackson could possibly still be allowed to remain on the roadways and not behind bars?
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Rampage was not convicted of what you stated. Get it right.
No wonder why your dumb, because you don't know how to read. I clearly said charged, and youre reading convicted.
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I agree, Rampage can get trashed and then go for a drive and kill a baby, then run from the police, but there is no place in the UFC for guys like King Mo. He'll be there one day, him and Page hate each other. There is a video of them talking shit to each other in a van. King Mo is outspoken and a showman, plus he's got actual skill and he shows improvement in every fight. He really hasn't done anything that bad, other than show he has a personality.
This is what you posted. This is what I orginally called you out on. He was never charged or convicted of either of these.
God this is too easy! ::)
I thought you had more respect for you "reputation" around here then to be called out on something like this.
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This is what you posted. This is what I orginally called you out on. He was never charged or convicted of either of these.
So when did I say convicted? I take it you think OJ Simpson didn't kill his wife either just because he wasn't convicted?
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So when did I say convicted? I take it you think OJ Simpson didn't kill his wife either just because he wasn't convicted?
OJ was accused and charged with Murder. Went to trial too. :o
He was later aquitted. Big difference here.
Legally OJ is innocent and it can not ever be held against him.
Here is what you said:
I agree, Rampage can get trashed and then go for a drive and kill a baby, then run from the police
Seems to me you are bashing a fighter with untrue statements to try and gain some ground on me. Similar to your friend BF.
What exactly did you mean by that?
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I agree, Rampage can get trashed and then go for a drive and kill a baby, then run from the police
Seems to me you are bashing a fighter with untrue statements to try and gain some ground on me. Similar to your friend BF.
What exactly did you mean by that?
I never said anything about a DUI, I said "trashed". He told Dana he had been up all night drinking energy drinks and playing Playstation and had some kinda breakdown. It's a fact a baby died, he was charged with felony hit and run and evading arrest (felony also). He over indulged on energy drinks and was sleep deprived, those 2 things combined can leave you pretty "trashed".
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I never said anything about a DUI, I said "trashed". He told Dana he had been up all night drinking energy drinks and playing Playstation and had some kinda breakdown. It's a fact a baby died, he was charged with felony hit and run and evading arrest (felony also). He over indulged on energy drinks and was sleep deprived, those 2 things combined can leave you pretty "trashed".
I will give you the "gray area" on the trashed statement..but now you are saying a baby died. Why did you not say that originally?
Killing is an act of taking someone's life. Based on your statement, who killed the baby if Rampage didn't,?
Not trying to be petty here, but if you are going to bash what I say, don't write stuff that isn't true. It really is pointless debating that way.
How you coming along proving your other statement that Rampage settled or was successfully sued?
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Grieving Mom Sues UFC Fighter Rampage Jackson After Miscarriage
Sunday June 28, 2009
An Orange County website reports that UFC star "Rampage" Jackson is being sued on the grounds that an auto accident he caused may have resulted in a 16-week miscarriage.
According to the mom, Holli Griggs of Huntington Beach, Jackson crashed into her car during a high speed chase. She was 16 weeks pregnant, and she says the crash ruptured her amniotic sac and led to the death of her baby. Jackson was later convicted of evading police and reckless driving, but there were no formal charges related to Griggs' miscarriage and the district attorneys claimed it was not related.
It is hard to know exactly what the circumstances of any specific case are, but it is definitely true that auto accidents and other such trauma can be dangerous during pregnancy, especially in the second and third trimester. My condolences to Griggs for her loss.
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Grieving Mom Sues UFC Fighter Rampage Jackson After Miscarriage
Sunday June 28, 2009
An Orange County website reports that UFC star "Rampage" Jackson is being sued on the grounds that an auto accident he caused may have resulted in a 16-week miscarriage.
According to the mom, Holli Griggs of Huntington Beach, Jackson crashed into her car during a high speed chase. She was 16 weeks pregnant, and she says the crash ruptured her amniotic sac and led to the death of her baby. Jackson was later convicted of evading police and reckless driving, but there were no formal charges related to Griggs' miscarriage and the district attorneys claimed it was not related.
It is hard to know exactly what the circumstances of any specific case are, but it is definitely true that auto accidents and other such trauma can be dangerous during pregnancy, especially in the second and third trimester. My condolences to Griggs for her loss.
Bezerk and Chute both stated that Rampage was successfullysued and/or settled out of court.
Placing a lawsuit on someone is much different then being successfully sued or settling out of court.
Besides, even a successful lawsuit (which is not the case here) doesn't mean anything legally about guilt. Many times it is cheaper to settle then to fight. (Again not the case here)
Thanks for trying though. ::)