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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: GMCtrk on March 24, 2006, 11:34:17 PM
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these are some pretty seldom seen pictures, and are pretty self explanatory 8)
(http://picsorban.com/upload/yates10.jpg)
(http://picsorban.com/upload/yates11.jpg)
(http://picsorban.com/upload/yates12.jpg)
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Nasser OWNED! ;D Levrone OWNED ;D
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Top 2 95 Olympia bottom from 92 .
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flex wheeler back in 93' was the best eva..
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I dont think it even comes close to Ronnies, one of the best backs no doubt, but not upto par with Big Ron's.
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I hope that Hulkster sees this thread. Another Ronnie v Dorian argument would be
gay great.
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I hope that Hulkster sees this thread. Another Ronnie v Dorian argument would be gay great.
word.
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Dorian may have the most ripped back but Ronnie smashes him in thickness and size....that was my proxy post for Hulkster. Seriously though, Dorian had an incredible back, but best of all time....NO.
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Dorian may have the most ripped back but Ronnie smashes him in thickness and size....that was my proxy post for Hulkster. Seriously though, Dorian had an incredible back, but best of all time....NO.
please don't post that water logged bugger in this thread. That's what dorian's back looks like full blown offseason
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Dorian may have the most ripped back but Ronnie smashes him in thickness and size....that was my proxy post for Hulkster. Seriously though, Dorian had an incredible back, but best of all time....NO.
agreed. Dorian's back was very, very good in the lat spread and christmas tree poses, but suffered on the back double bi.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50200.0;id=51394;image)
Both ronnie and haney had better backs overall IMO.
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^^ monster gay outfit.
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Dorian may have the most ripped back but Ronnie smashes him in thickness and size....that was my proxy post for Hulkster. Seriously though, Dorian had an incredible back, but best of all time....NO.
In width, it's true that Ronnie's back has matched Dorian. But in thickness, Dorian's still reigns. And when you consider the condition with witch he presented his mass, you understand why he's the standard-bearer.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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But in thickness, Dorian's still reigns.
(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/bluecolemanbacks.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman/rc210.jpg)
can't give Ronnie any credit can ya? its obvious that ronnie surpassed Dorian's back in width AND thickness a long time ago.
Are you trying to start another futile thread where Dorian will get his ass handed to him yet again?
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(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d91/knny187/Rond.gif)
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can't give Ronnie any credit can ya? its obvious that ronnie surpassed Dorian's back in width AND thickness a long time ago.
Are you trying to start another futile thread where Dorian will get his ass handed to him yet again?
Whats funny is you don't believe that Ronnie is better because you constatly defend him , if you had confidence in that you wouldn't go on to ad nausem defending him . ;)
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(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d91/knny187/Rond.gif)
I think someone established that was Orville Burke .
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(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/bluecolemanbacks.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman/rc210.jpg)
can't give Ronnie any credit can ya? its obvious that ronnie surpassed Dorian's back in width AND thickness a long time ago.
Are you trying to start another futile thread where Dorian will get his ass handed to him yet again?
Find a picture where Ronnie has his back in Dorian's condition and then let's compare. Ronnie is holding more water in his back in that one shot than Dorian did in all of his olympia wins combined.
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since ronnie has so much (more) muscle in his back, the "standing relaxed" pics are not the best ones to detect his separation and dryness, because his lats are just jammed together with all the other muscles on his frame . . . the best pics to tell how waterlogged or not he is are the ones in which he is just beginning his lat spread, and the lats are pulled up . . . the Ronnie equivalent of the pic below . . . and I don't have any of them, but I'm sure Hulkster does.
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Find a picture where Ronnie has his back in Dorian's condition and then let's compare. Ronnie is holding more water in his back in that one shot than Dorian did in all of his olympia wins combined.
okay, here are several:
(http://www.beyondrelief.com/images/colemanback.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/45.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/41.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/44.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/50.jpg)
I think ronnie's back as displayed at the 99 English grand prix represents the best overall combo of width, thickness and detail ever seen in bodybuilding. both the rear double bi and rear lat are fantastic, and he had a great christmas tree to boot. With Dorian, you had a good rear lat spread, good christmas tree, but, in most contests, a rear double bi that was not up to the standard that his other poses set.
that is a main reason why I think that Haney's back also eclipsed dorian's - his rear double bi was not up to the standard of his rear lat spread.
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(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/bluecolemanbacks.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman/rc210.jpg)
can't give Ronnie any credit can ya? its obvious that ronnie surpassed Dorian's back in width AND thickness a long time ago.
Are you trying to start another futile thread where Dorian will get his ass handed to him yet again?
Now take Ronnie's dick from your mouth, and say that without gagging. ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Best back of all time is clearly Ronnie based on size, width , thickness and top to bottom seperation, etc
Right behind him is Yates. Haney was right behind Yates and Franco Columbo right behind Haney.
It appears that the back has really evloved with each successive MR O.
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Checkmate , Dorian !! Whoa Nelly !! >:(
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Checkmate , Dorian !! Whoa Nelly !! >:(
i'm sure the camera angle has nothing to do with what we see here . . . ::)
or the fact that ronnie hasn't really flared his lats yet.
edit: bdbiceps . . . one of 'em's missing the final element.
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i'm sure the camera angle has nothing to do with what we see here . . . ::)
or the fact that ronnie hasn't really flared his lats yet.
edit: bdbiceps . . . one of 'em's missing the final element.
Keep typing thats all you can do ;) Oh and Yates may be missing one bicep as you say but Ronnie is missing two calves .
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When you wish upon a star.................... .................
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/new187/ThirdTier.gif)
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Keep typing thats all you can do ;) Oh and Yates may be missing one bicep as you say but Ronnie is missing two calves .
And when they change the name of the pose to Back-Double-calves your post will be relevant. ;)
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Keep typing thats all you can do ;)
. . . and you're directly channeling the voice of God onto our screens. wtf?
I don't know who has a better back b/w Yates and Coleman, but I do know that it's too close to call . . . arms are another matter. and there's a reason why you can barely see their calves in the pic you posted. think about it.
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When you wish upon a star.................... .................
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/new187/ThirdTier.gif)
Knny, what are you trying to say by posting that pic?
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Knny, what are you trying to say by posting that pic?
just shrug off the hate, and celebrate (even if it is TTTness) . . . pretty simple ;)
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. . . and you're directly channeling the voice of God onto our screens. wtf?
I don't know who has a better back b/w Yates and Coleman, but I do know that it's too close to call . . . arms are another matter. and there's a reason why you can barely see their calves in the pic you posted. think about it.
Sure the calves play no part in the back double bicepshot ::) read Arnold Schwarzenegger's Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding and it talks about how poor calves ruin the whole effect of ANY back shot , the judges are looking for more than just a great back & biceps in this pose not to mention balance & proportion .
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Sure the calves play no part in the back double bicepshot ::) read Arnold Schwarzenegger's Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding and it talks about how poor calves ruin the whole effect of ANY back shot , the judges are looking for more than just a great back & biceps in this pose not to mention balance & proportion .
If you say so, Nippletastic Dickmonger.
But it seems that the actual real life judges on Earth (not internet judges) don't hold calves in such high regard and haven't really ever done so. When's the last time poor calves stopped someone from winning a contest? Or conversely when's the last time great calves were the difference maker? You relentlessly trumpet Dorian's calves and forearms when they are nothing more than ancillary muscle groups in the real world. In the Major muscle groups Ronnie obliterates him. What's next, who's got whiter teeth?
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Checkmate , Dorian !! Whoa Nelly !! >:(
First off, I think RC is awesome but, aside from the biceps peaks, Dorian is busting Ronnie's ass in that photo. Ronnie has the better bi's esp the peaks,but Dorians shoulders & back width/thickness & overall hardness beats Ronnie.
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ND, I agree that in that pic Dorian's back is better, but Ronnie's arms and shoulder kill him. In later years, when Ronnie is like 30 pounds heavier, he is thicker and wider than Dorian. It is no contest. Dorian is drier, but his arms suck. His delts have no shape. His glutes aren't ripped and Ronnie's hams are better. Calves are all Dorian. Only a blind man would constantly go on about Dorian being superior. In 1995 yes, in 2005....NO. Ronnie has taken it to a different level. From the front he is thicker and better. dorian had better abs initially, but by 1995-1996, he had a disastrous GH gut also. Regardless, if Haney would have kept on going this would be a moot discussion. I like Dorian, but he is far from the greatest BB ever. Hell, according to Arnold, he was an average Mr. Olympia. Once again, give Sergio and Arnold the drugs these guys took and you would see how far aesthetic, pleasing physiques with mass look. Dorian was mass, but his lines were average at best. Ronnie does not have the most pleasing shape, yet he tapers better than Yates. They are both great, but I feel that Ronnie 2003 would have slaughtered Yates easily.
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This is the ultimate back shot....Yates could not compete.
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Don't worry Nico,....ND will babble on about Ronnie's head being out of round or something equally brilliant
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This is the ultimate back shot....Yates could not compete.
maybe it's the lighting, but his upper body doesn't look as hard as Dorian's could occasionally be.
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Checkmate , Dorian !! Whoa Nelly !! >:(
One of the best pics ever of the two MrOs, which clearly shows Yates overall superiority.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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One of the best pics ever of the two MrOs, which clearly shows Yates overall superiority.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
when that pic was taken, there was only one Mr. O in it.
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One of the best pics ever of the two MrOs, which clearly shows Yates overall superiority.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Too bad Ronnie was nowhere near his best, yet...
"clearly shows..." ::)
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Too bad Ronnie was nowhere near his best, yet...
"clearly shows..." ::)
And yet, Dorian is only one year older than Ronnie. If Dorian were still competing today...Ronnie would still be his bitch! ;D ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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And yet, Dorian is only one year older than Ronnie. If Dorian were still competing today...Ronnie would still be his bitch! ;D ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL... Assuming that he would have some bodyparts left! Towards the end he was getting a tore muscle every year ;D
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Hope this helps.....
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Yates' back looks great. Ron's definitely bigger & wider, and wins when looking at the OVERALL UPPER BODY from the back.
In terms of JUST BACK, a few with incredible DENSITY & dryness win:
Haney, Yates, Wheeler. Columbu, Robinson, etc..
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Albert Beckles was about 52 when that pic was taken :o!
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Dorian's rear double bi was inferior to Ronnie's, although the rear lats are close. Ronnie wins.
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Ron wins on overall shots from the back-arms and delts are so much better.
Strictly in terms of back he never had Haney's or Yates' density or dryness. That's a deciding factor for me; only if width & size trump density & quality is Ron's back better.
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Checkmate , Dorian !! Whoa Nelly !! >:(
crazy thing was, Ronnie's conditioning in his pre-olympia years was actually superior to post-98. Really, Dorian's conditioning is far superior to Ronnie.
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Albert Beckles was about 52 when that pic was taken :o!
No.
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flex wheeler back in 93' was the best eva..
No, GHB.
Sergio put Flex to shame in several ways.
So did others.
DIV
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Sergio didn't have Wheeler's density or detail, actually, esp. back.
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Sergio didn't have Wheeler's density or detail, actually, esp. back.
That's a subjective opinion.
Sergio was larger and more dense than Wheeler, IMO.
I don't even consider it arguable.
This is a guy who beat Arnold.....hard to compare Flex to that.
DIV
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Quote " He had the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen. "
Ronnie Coleman on Dorian Yates Flex July 2003
Stop with the nonsense already , Ronnie knows that Dorian had the best back !!
so " Bow Down when you come to my town
Bow down when we west-ward bound cuz
We aint no haters like you
Bow Down to some guy's that's greater than
You "
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its a simple case of evolution. Dorian RETIRED nearly 9 years ago, Ronnie has since taken over and gone onto develop a back which is atleast as good as Dorians. Had Dorian continued to compete who knows how good he would have become?
Its like comparing Linford Christie to Asafa Powell. Linford was number 1 with a PB of 9.87 for the 100m sprint. 10 years later, Asafa is now number 1 with a PB of 9.78 (?) but would he have been able to compete against Linfords mystique? who knows..........
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If you say so, Nippletastic Dickmonger.
But it seems that the actual real life judges on Earth (not internet judges) don't hold calves in such high regard and haven't really ever done so. When's the last time poor calves stopped someone from winning a contest? Or conversely when's the last time great calves were the difference maker? You relentlessly trumpet Dorian's calves and forearms when they are nothing more than ancillary muscle groups in the real world. In the Major muscle groups Ronnie obliterates him. What's next, who's got whiter teeth?
exactly
Do calves stop these poses from being groundbreaking:
(http://www.dennis-james.com/Gallery/01ac/images/full/djames_AC02e.jpg)
(http://www.dennis-james.com/Gallery/01ac/images/full/djames_AC03b.jpg)
almost everyone on the entire planet (including the judges) will tell you NO.
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its a simple case of evolution. Dorian RETIRED nearly 9 years ago, Ronnie has since taken over and gone onto develop a back which is atleast as good as Dorians. Had Dorian continued to compete who knows how good he would have become?
Its like comparing Linford Christie to Asafa Powell. Linford was number 1 with a PB of 9.87 for the 100m sprint. 10 years later, Asafa is now number 1 with a PB of 9.78 (?) but would he have been able to compete against Linfords mystique? who knows..........
Exactly. What's the point in comparing Ronnie to Dorian circa 97 or before? Sure Ronnie was quite developed and even won some 3rd Tier shows like the Canada Pro cup etc. BUT, after the 98 olympia, he put on so much more mass that it pushed him into a league of his own. So, to compare his pre-98 versions to Dorian is not really comparing them at their respective best.
During his reign, Dorian was in a league of his own. But after ronnie started winning especially from 1999 on (except for his shape and size in 2002), he improved so much that there is no doubt he is better / freakier. Dorian may have been better conditioned, but Ronnie has so much mass, volume and density that AT THEIR PEAKS, Dorian does take a second to Ronnie.
It's like comparing Arnold and Frank Zane. Sure Arnold won the Mr. Universe (like Ronnie winning the Canada Pro cup) - he still got beaten by Frank Zane. Which means, Zane was better AT THAT TIME. As everyone knows, once Arnie improved by leaps and bounds, Zane couldnt touch him onstage. Same with Ronnie and Dorian.
Plus, when asked post 93 Olympia if he could have beaten Haney at his best, Dorian replied along the lines of ' I was heavier than him by about 15 pounds and so, yes, I would have beaten him'. The same logic, when applied to Ronnie and Dorian prevails. JMO
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one of my biggest beefs with saying that Dorian's back is the "greatest of all time" is that, if that is true, it should be OBVIOUS in any back pose at any contest.
(http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=dorian+yates+nasser/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=12pvgfvq4/EXP=1121960059/*-http%3A//www.swhiteside.freeserve.co.uk/images/New_Folder/Big_Backs.jpg)
but it sure as hell isn't. This does not look like the rear double biceps pose of the guy with the GREATEST back of all time.
On the other hand, Ronnie's back jumps out at you, for example, here are shots taken from the 2003 Olympia:
(http://www.geocities.com/ronniecolemantr/image/Ronnie_Coleman_28.jpg)
(http://www.geocities.com/ronniecolemantr/image/Ronnie_Coleman_23.jpg)
(http://www.geocities.com/ronniecolemantr/image/Ronnie_Coleman_29.jpg)
although not as crisp as his earlier years, he has such incredible width and thickness that it is obvious that this guy is close to the top of the list of the greatest backs ever seen. For example, that rear lat spread has yet to be surpassed!
When you look at a dorian rear double bi (most of the time) you are left saying "THAT is the greatest back of all time????"
it doesn't jump out at you like it should.
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Hulkster this is where you contradict yourself , so Dorian can't have the best back because his back double bicep according to you sucks , yet Ronnie who you tout as having the best back ever has a front latspread that sucks , how can a guy with the best back ever have such a poor front latspread ?
What you fail to realize is while in 2003 Ronnie did surpass Dorian in width his conditioning was no where near Dorian's best so what edge did he gain ? look at that pic of Yates in the back double bicep with the green back round that trumps ANY version of Coleman
If you want to compare the two back its best to do at around the same weight , Dorian had everything Ronnie did , width ,thickness , detail , ontop of having lower lats and a much better lowerback , and whats ironic again if Yates had NO calves and Ronnie did you would be using that as a plus for Coleman , but bottom line his back double bicep suffers with poor calves and poor calves cannnot be hidden.
bottom line no matter how much you type , no matter how many people agree with you , no matter how much you wish , Ronnie himself said Yates had the best back !! ;)
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(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman/rc228.jpg)
ummm..who said Ronnie's front lat spread was poor??
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ummm..who said Ronnie's front lat spread was poor??
Oh please Ronnie's front latspread is ho-hum , and again you cannot eascape Ronnie knows who has the best back . ;)
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Oh please Ronnie's front latspread is ho-hum , and again you cannot eascape Ronnie knows who has the best back . ;)
Ronnie's quote, by your own admission, is 'He HAD the thickest, freakiest back of all times'. Keyword being HAD - meaning in the past (or before Ronnie's prime), Dorian HAD the thickest back. But at present, his back development has been surpassed by Ronnie's. But I'm sure you are going to say he used the word HAD coz Dorian was competing in the past.
While we are quoting who said what, do you read the Reflexions column in Flex? In one of the issues in late 2003 or early 2004 (or maybe even before - i'm not sure of the date), there was a question on how Dorian would fare against Ronnie (against MR. O Ronnie - the developed one). Everyone (Andrulla Blanchette, Kim Chizevsky and someone else) said Ronnie would win flat out. Even Dorian himself said, he wouldnt want to predict and that even though he had beaten Ronnie in the past, Ronnie had improved a 100 % and he would use the 95 version of himself to even think about standing next to Ronnie and also, that there was no comparisn to the other competitiors he had competed against and Ronnie.
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nice - post a shot from 2004, one of Ronnie's worst performances ever.
I would like to hear your comments on Yates front lat spread, and the fact that it is ONLY good from the waist up, thanks to puffy, watery, no-separation quads:
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy114.jpg)
funny how you harp on ronnie's calves (a minor muscle group) yet ignore Yates massive horrible quads ::)
Ronnie's front lat spread has much more detail overall, in addition to freaky lats:
(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1577&stc=1)
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nd vs hulkster
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thor vs hulk..
who's stronger..?
who's more powerful?
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Ronnie's quote, by your own admission, is 'He HAD the thickest, freakiest back of all times'. Keyword being HAD - meaning in the past (or before Ronnie's prime), Dorian HAD the thickest back. But at present, his back development has been surpassed by Ronnie's. But I'm sure you are going to say he used the word HAD coz Dorian was competing in the past.
While we are quoting who said what, do you read the Reflexions column in Flex? In one of the issues in late 2003 or early 2004 (or maybe even before - i'm not sure of the date), there was a question on how Dorian would fare against Ronnie (against MR. O Ronnie - the developed one). Everyone (Andrulla Blanchette, Kim Chizevsky and someone else) said Ronnie would win flat out. Even Dorian himself said, he wouldnt want to predict and that even though he had beaten Ronnie in the past, Ronnie had improved a 100 % and he would use the 95 version of himself to even think about standing next to Ronnie and also, that there was no comparisn to the other competitiors he had competed against and Ronnie.
Bottom line 2003 Ronnie said Dorian " had the thickest & freakiest back I have ever seen " that I HAVE ever seen " if you want to knitpick !! ;)
And Yates when asked if at their best could Coleman beat him and Yates said it was very hard for him to say but he said Ronnie might win due to a 30lb weight advantage , now he was 287lbs at the 2003 Olympia and 296lbs at the 2004 and neither one of those were his best showings , his all time best condition is considered by everyone is 2001 ASC he was 245lbs and Yates all time best is the 1995 Mr Olympia ( yes post tear ) and he was 255lbs , so Yates would enjoy a 10lb weight advantage & better conditioning .
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nice - post a shot from 2004, one of Ronnie's worst performances ever.
I would like to hear your comments on Yates front lat spread, and the fact that it is ONLY good from the waist up, thanks to puffy, watery, no-separation quads:
funny how you harp on ronnie's calves (a minor muscle group) yet ignore Yates massive horrible quads ::)
Ronnie's front lat spread has much more detail overall, in addition to freaky lats:
LMFAO at Hulkster bitching about not using the best pics lol you're such a tool , you constantly do this to " prove " your point lol what a jackass , Yates owns the front latspread , period . he's not even on contest shape & he destorys Ronnie .
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Again .
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doesn't anyone else agree that it would be foolish to acknowledge yates post tear 1995 shape against the man who many feel has the GREATEST biceps in history??
Dorian would be murdered, having a HUGE disadvantage right off the bat:
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy175.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/47.jpg)
1993 Yates is the only version of Yates that would stand a chance. Post tear, the arm is too much of a disadvantage against someone with arms like ronnie.
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Yates horrible quads prevent him from having the greatest front lat spread ever.
Funny how your second pic has him wearing pants. ::)
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doesn't anyone else agree that it would be foolish to acknowledge yates post tear 1995 shape against the man who many feel has the GREATEST biceps in history??
Dorian would be murdered, having a HUGE disadvantage right off the bat:
1993 Yates is the only version of Yates that would stand a chance. Post tear, the arm is too much of a disadvantage against someone with arms like ronnie.
Okay he would lose the front doublebicep and win every other single pose . case closed . ;)
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even ronnies back isnt the best all of the time, but it is number 1 in the current era when he gets it right. Bigger isnt always better though - we must all remember that. I have no doubt that Dorian had the best lats and latspread, its just a matter of using the poses to the best of your ability
(stop posting so i can get this fukking one done!!!) ;D
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Yates horrible quads prevent him from having the greatest front lat spread ever.
Funny how your second pic has him wearing pants. ::)
Coleman's horrible calves prevent him from having the greatest front lat spread ever . ;)
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ND & Hulkster,
You sound very well rehearsed in the way you put together your views on the Yates v Coleman debate. You guys done this before by any chance?
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doesn't anyone else agree that it would be foolish to acknowledge yates post tear 1995 shape against the man who many feel has the GREATEST biceps in history??
Dorian would be murdered, having a HUGE disadvantage right off the bat:
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy175.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/47.jpg)
1993 Yates is the only version of Yates that would stand a chance. Post tear, the arm is too much of a disadvantage against someone with arms like ronnie.
arms basically stand for nothing, at least, that's what the judges said in response to Dorian winning in '94.
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Coleman's horrible calves prevent him from having the greatest front lat spread ever . ;)
ND, why don't you stop posting these Dorian pics? They are useful only to show more convingingly that Ronnie is better!! ;D
However, props to you for your new avatar, at least you have a better idea of female aesthetics! Why don't you start posting Aishwarya Rai's pictures?! We will all agree that she looks better than Ronnie and Dorian :)
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ND, why don't you stop posting these Dorian pics? They are useful only to show more convingingly that Ronnie is better!! ;D
However, props to you for your new avatar, at least you have a better idea of female aesthetics! Why don't you start posting Aishwarya Rai's pictures?! We will all agree that she looks better than Ronnie and Dorian :)
lol Here you go !! I think she is better looking than any woman , period . !!
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There are others. How bout this one below?
(http://www.rhbr33526.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/29-03-2005-katebeckinsalebandwc.jpg)
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Perfect combination of mass, aesthetics and symmetry: no weak points here! :P
(http://fans.aishwaryaworld.com/images/gallery/ar9.jpg)
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ND like girls? ;D
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ND like girls? ;D
Hey I'm not the one salavating over Coleman lol
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Perfect combination of mass, aesthetics and symmetry: no weak points here! :P
(http://fans.aishwaryaworld.com/images/gallery/ar9.jpg)
can't really tell, she's all covered up. Maybe Ronnie could lend her one of his thongs?
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" Bow Down when you come to my town
Bow down when we west-ward bound cuz
We aint no haters like you
Bow Down to some guy's that's greater than
You "
"My adversaries crumble when we rumble, it's a catastrophe.
I pull revenge on the bitch niggas that blasted me!
Plus my alias is Makaveli.
A loaded .357 w/ hollow points to a narcissistic guy belly
Bust him to see if he bleed, he shoulda never fucked around
with a sick-ass guy like me
They call my name out and ND's run.
Best be prepared for the Outlawz, here we come."
DIV
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If you're talking about bodybuilders with great back development, here's one name that isn't mentioned all that much anymore.....Tony "The Jetman" Pearson.
Getting that nickname from his days with the World Bodybuilding Federation (WBF), Pearson had one of the best back in the business. I have footage of his posing routines from both the 1991 and 1992 WBF Championships.
To me, what makes Pearson's lats stand out is that the Jetman was considerably lighter than many of the men mentioned earlier. Pearson competed between 205 and 220 lbs. But his back looked like that of a much larger man.
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If you're talking about bodybuilders with great back development, here's one name that isn't mentioned all that much anymore.....Tony "The Jetman" Pearson.
Getting that nickname from his days with the World Bodybuilding Federation (WBF), Pearson had one of the best back in the business. I have footage of his posing routines from both the 1991 and 1992 WBF Championships.
To me, what makes Pearson's lats stand out is that the Jetman was considerably lighter than many of the men mentioned earlier. Pearson competed between 205 and 220 lbs. But his back looked like that of a much larger man.
Speak of the devil !! Tony did have a wide ass back .
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if tony's lats were not so high, he would have smoked both Ronnie and dorian in the rear lat spread. Although, of course, he would not have been as thick.
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if tony's lats were not so high, he would have smoked both Ronnie and dorian in the rear lat spread. Although, of course, he would not have been as thick.
They're not that high !!
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hulkster's high . . . looks pretty good (and Michael Jacksonlike too) to me.
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Show me high lats !!
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Show me high lats !!
i can show you high calves . . . ;D
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You know whats ironic is Hulkster says no one ever suffered for having weak calves and Tony is a perfect example , his high/small calves cost him contests no doubt .
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Pearson's calves are in a whole new realm of skinny . . . i've seen female sprinters w bigger calves.
coleman's calves are poorly shaped, but they're big enough to where they're not an immediately obvious weakness.
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Pearson's calves are in a whole new realm of skinny . . . i've seen female sprinters w bigger calves.
coleman's calves are poorly shaped, but they're big enough to where they're not an immediately obvious weakness.
Coleman's calves when he was light were just as bad as Tony's !!
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This is Ron in 1997 !! thats when he was hitting his peak .
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you guys have all been duped.
(http://www.ironage.us/gallery/bodybuilders/pearson.jpg)
high lats!! this was especially obvious in the rear lat spread.
If you look closely, you will notice that in the pic that ND posted, tony's wrists are way up high on his waist, thus minimizing the look of his high lats in the lat spread.
you have to have a fine eye for these things! ;)
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Coleman's calves when he was light were just as bad as Tony's !!
I dont think it's far fetched at all that Coleman was still natural here. Check out those biceps :o A lot of current pros would kill for those arms ;)
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its a simple case of evolution. Dorian RETIRED nearly 9 years ago, Ronnie has since taken over and gone onto develop a back which is atleast as good as Dorians. Had Dorian continued to compete who knows how good he would have become?
Its like comparing Linford Christie to Asafa Powell. Linford was number 1 with a PB of 9.87 for the 100m sprint. 10 years later, Asafa is now number 1 with a PB of 9.78 (?) but would he have been able to compete against Linfords mystique? who knows..........
9.77 is Asafa's world record. The guy is a freak show. He won the Commonwealth Games Gold Medal in the 100m sprint literally jogging from the 60metre mark in 10.03
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you guys have all been duped.
high lats!! this was especially obvious in the rear lat spread.
If you look closely, you will notice that in the pic that ND posted, tony's wrists are way up high on his waist, thus minimizing the look of his high lats in the lat spread.
you have to have a fine eye for these things! ;)
Hulkster you're in desperate need of glasses if you think he has high lats dude , get to the eye Dr's post haste !!
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Since the debate has moved on to Person's back/lats some BACK shots might actually help. ::)
Here is one. Anyone got anymore?
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Since the debate has moved on to Person's back/lats some BACK shots might actually help. ::)
Here is one. Anyone got anymore?
Good pic. High lats? Nope. Actually his back structure looks like Ronnie's but not as detailed.
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fuckin gi-normous erectors. that's what 800 lb dls will get you.
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separation anxiety? doesn't get harder or dryer than this.
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You know whats ironic is Hulkster says no one ever suffered for having weak calves and Tony is a perfect example , his high/small calves cost him contests no doubt .
Perhaps!! However, Pearson has several IFBB pro wins under his belts. Most, however, are courtesy of the long-lost arena of mixed-pairs competitions, where he's won with the like of Tina Plakinger and Ms. Olympia, Carla Dunlap.
The last time I saw him competed was in the 1992 WBF Championship, where he was one of the few guys who came in good shape. Some of the fans and the WBF staff, including Vince McMahon, felt he should have cracked the top 5. Personally, I had him, instead of "Rock-n-Roll-Wild-Child" David Dearth in that group. I even would have placed him ahead of Berry DeMey, who ended up 4th.
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this dude had a back!
ask Haney and Yates...
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1390&stc=1)
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this dude had a back!
ask Haney and Yates...
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1390&stc=1)
well, too bad we can't see it.
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well, too bad we can't see it.
not too many pics of Beneziza on the internet
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even if Yates and Colemans backs were equal, Coleman looks a bit better from the front
(http://www.cbbf.net/photos/2000_worldqualifier_coleman.jpg) (http://dorianyates.net/graphics/MOST%20MUSCLUAR.jpg)
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even if Yates and Colemans backs were equal, Coleman looks a bit better from the front
(http://www.cbbf.net/photos/2000_worldqualifier_coleman.jpg) (http://dorianyates.net/graphics/MOST%20MUSCLUAR.jpg)
most rational people realize that - the only known exceptions are found posting about how much better dorian was on this thread :)
hell, your pics are comparing an off-season Ronnie to a contest dorian and he still looks better!! Earlier on, I posted shots of ronnie HALF-flexing that crushed Dorian and STILL people insist Dorian was better ::)
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http://www.british-bodybuilding.co.uk/zacks_back.shtml
Zack Khan, British BB, from 2001.
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Gus Carter at the Masters Nationals 2005. We took the pic for our website, Bodybuilding Reviews.
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are you saying they are the next Ronnie and Dorian?? ;)
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http://www.british-bodybuilding.co.uk/zacks_back.shtml
Zack Khan, British BB, from 2001.
has this guy ever trained calfs in his life ???
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not too many pics of Beneziza on the internet
When Yates lost to Momo at the NOC he felt it was due to Momo's superior back !! check this pic , Momo has the more complete back even against Haney !!
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What was that show ?
Beneziza kills haney there : back, legs and conditionning
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What was that show ?
Beneziza kills haney there : back, legs and conditionning
1989 Mr Olympia he got 5th !! from the back he is simply more complete .
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Ronnie > Dorian IMO
I mean we're splitting hairs when we get to this level with probably 2 of the best bodybuilders ever but if forced to choose one Ronnie wins in my book.
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Could you imagine if Benaziza would have lived. He could have been pound for pound the freakiest bodybuilder who ever lived. Dude was ripped and packed with muscle. If he were 5' 11", he would have been over 300 pounds ripped. Amazing. Probably the best small man ever, even greater than Franco and Padilla. Oh well, diuretics will kill you if you don't monitor your potassium and magnesium. I bet he went into Torsades or some other arrhythmia.
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Momo's hamstrings in that pic look about 5 years ahead of their time.
Does anyone know where he lived? i know he was from egypt, but I doubt they're big on diuretics there . . . probably got into it hanging with his buddies on the European circuit.
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best back in history of mankind:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=61706.0
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Was Momo that short or is he farther away?
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Was Momo that short or is he farther away?
I believe he was 5'2"