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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Karl Kox on March 27, 2006, 07:52:41 AM
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Milos or Vince ?
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Milos is not coming back.
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Goodrum?
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Vince was once heir apparent to the Olympia . . . Milos--not so much.
Vince represents the path not taken . . . the one that might have avoided guts and 300 lb. monstrosities w no lines.
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Milos said he is coming back to do a show soon. He will dominate
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Milos is not coming back.
huh ya he is he said so himself right here on get big
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huh ya he is he said so himself right here on get big
Milos says he's doing a regular show not the masters since he believes it to be for old men of which he doesn't feel he is. I think Vince coming back is awesome! In typical Vince T. fashion he show'd up in great shape and I'm sure all of his fans certainly appreciate watching him compete against today's pros.
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Milos is bluffing. I guarantee, right here and right now, that Milos will NOT come back. And you can take that to the bank!
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Milos is bluffing. I guarantee, right here and right now, that Milos will NOT come back. And you can take that to the bank!
Coming from the guy who said steroids are a finishing touch ::)
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Coming from the guy who said steroids are a finishing touch ::)
did he define "finishing touch"? IMHO, a "finishing touch" could equal up to 49% of the touching.
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he said steroid are 25 %
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Coming from the guy who said steroids are a finishing touch ::)
Steroids are a finishing touch. Most pros only use them to complement their training and nutrition plans, and only in the weeks leading up to a contest. Steroids add only 5-10%.
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whatever
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Steroids are a finishing touch. Most pros only use them to complement their training and nutrition plans, and only in the weeks leading up to a contest. Steroids add only 5-10%.
Sources of info are Interviews? Studies?
we want to see citations.
EDIT: If DIVISION gave you the information, I'll accept it, as his word is truth.
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So what would Ronnie compete at as a natural?
A ripped 265--as big as Yates ever was onstage--of course ::) ::). He was natural until 2003, according to Many.
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Sources of info are Interviews? Studies?
we want to see citations.
EDIT: If DIVISION gave you the information, I'll accept it, as his word is truth.
Would the often referred to interview Tom Platz gave in a muscle mag years ago where he said that steroids only gave him a 2% edge count as a credible citation? That's the interview in which he compared the effects of steroids on his physique to putting wax on his Corvette. Of course I'm sure that if he had thrown caution into the wind and doubled his 200 mgs per week dosage and had also had access to GH, insulin, and IGF-1, he could have possibly recognized the 5-10% difference which LuciusFox points out the pros benefit from today.
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Would the often referred to interview Tom Platz gave in a muscle mag years ago where he said that steroids only gave him a 2% edge count as a credible citation? That's the interview in which he compared the effects of steroids on his physique to putting wax on his Corvette. Of course I'm sure that if he had thrown caution into the wind and doubled his 200 mgs per week dosage and had also had access to GH, insulin, and IGF-1, he could have possibly recognized the 5-10% difference which LuciusFox points out the pros benefit from today.
see no. 3, if you're being serious.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=61518.0
the only way to determine the benefit is through a study. But i have a feeling that ronnie would not weigh 260 shredded w/o substantial chemical assistance.
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see no. 3, if you're being serious.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=61518.0
the only way to determine the benefit is through a study. But i have a feeling that ronnie would not weigh 260 shredded w/o substantial chemical assistance.
Ronnie has always quite openly admitted that he is in fact drug-free.
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Ronnie has always quite openly admitted that he is in fact drug-free.
Yes he has same as Titus has claimed he did nothing. They must have the same bullshit coach
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Sources of info are Interviews? Studies?
we want to see citations.
EDIT: If DIVISION gave you the information, I'll accept it, as his word is truth.
I mean that steroids alone add only 5-10%, maybe even less. But combinations of drugs can have a greater effect than that. Gordon_Gekko has learned that for many pros, steroids have had even less of an effect. So why take them? To help recovery. A tan adds 5% to a physique so if you look at the numbers, steroids may have only the same effect!
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I mean that steroids alone add only 5-10%, maybe even less. But combinations of drugs can have a greater effect than that. Gordon_Gekko has learned that for many pros, steroids have had even less of an effect. So why take them? To help recovery. A tan adds 5% to a physique so if you look at the numbers, steroids may have only the same effect!
You are a fucking idiot, why not say they add nothing? fucking goofball.
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You are a fucking idiot.
No, I am simply talking about the AVERAGE effect of steroids, as I have said before. You may have experienced more or fewer gains. The average pro, remember that there are hundreds, only uses steroids as a finishing touch and to complement their training and nutritional programs.
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No, I am simply talking about the AVERAGE effect of steroids, as I have said before. You may have experienced more or fewer gains. The average pro, remember that there are hundreds, only uses steroids as a finishing touch and to complement their training and nutritional programs.
sorry but YES, you are a complete retard.
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sorry but YES, you are a complete retard.
Again, you are probably thinking about the effects of steroids on the top 10 pros, some of whom do not even go off in the offseason. I am talking about the average pro. Most pros think of steroids as being like ranch dressing on a salad. An appropriate dose of ranch adds 5-10% flavor to a salad. A larger dose may add more flavor, but it changes the salad too much. A large dose of steroids does the same to a physique. It may become bigger, but it only gets 5-10% better. Which is why steroids are best used as finishing touch, in moderate amounts, and only in the weeks leading up to a contest.
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Yes he has same as Titus has claimed he did nothing. They must have the same bullshit coach
Did Titus reveal he was drug-free as well? I take it you don't believe him then? Although Titus is a convicted drug dealer and an accused murderer, if he says he's natural, shouldn't we take his word for it until proven guilty of said drug use? I can't believe these guys would be dishonest about such a thing!
I also recall reading in another muscle mag where Haney said that steroids make only a 5% difference at the most on the top level. Of course I'm sure he'd admit that it would be closer to 10% (as Lucius asserts) with the addition of the Holy Trinity of slin, gH, and IGF-1.
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Didi you just say steak? No oh you got me all excited! And MArs is right this fool is a goofball. Finishing touches, right that is why some many average users using them even before doing three years of natural training. Dude I don't know where you think your getting your information from but your source is wrong, dead wrong [you know that song; dont know what you got until it is gone] sorry Lil KIM.
Where was I , oh yea; Steriod do more then just 10-15% they double the rate of growth which in many's eyes is gold! FOOD training, sex, wait scratch that last one, and riods, roids riods riods. and some GH.
The drugs are not the magic blue pill we all want, but fuck it is pretty close!
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Milos is coming back!!! Awesome!!!
Umm, wait, to come back doesn't that imply that someone actually cared that you went somewhere.
did he ever leave?
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Craig Titus, bigger business.
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Did Titus reveal he was drug-free as well? I take it you don't believe him then? Although Titus is a convicted drug dealer and an accused murderer, if he says he's natural, shouldn't we take his word for it until proven guilty of said drug use? I can't believe these guys would be dishonest about such a thing!
I also recall reading in another muscle mag where Haney said that steroids make only a 5% difference at the most on the top level. Of course I'm sure he'd admit that it would be closer to 10% (as Lucius asserts) with the addition of the Holy Trinity of slin, gH, and IGF-1.
There you have it. A 7-time Mr. Olympia and an 8-time Mr. Olympia agree that steroids are a finishing touch, almost an afterthought. Now who should I trust? Them, or some of the members of this board, many of whom know nothing about steroids. Straight from the horses mouth. What more do you people want ???
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Didi you just say steak? No oh you got me all excited! And MArs is right this fool is a goofball. Finishing touches, right that is why some many average users using them even before doing three years of natural training. Dude I don't know where you think your getting your information from but your source is wrong, dead wrong [you know that song; dont know what you got until it is gone] sorry Lil KIM.
Where was I , oh yea; Steriod do more then just 10-15% they double the rate of growth which in many's eyes is gold! FOOD training, sex, wait scratch that last one, and riods, roids riods riods. and some GH.
The drugs are not the magic blue pill we all want, but f**k it is pretty close!
They only make a physique 5-10% better. Yes, you can use steroids early in your career, but that is just like drowning your salad in ranch dressing, it ruins the experience. Many ruin their physiques by relying on steroids instead of using them appropriately.
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HEY GET BACK ON THE SUBJECT !!!!
Ok Milos said right here he is coming back , and when I saw him last week he does look very big albeit clothed !! why would he stay so big if he wasnt planning on doing something ??? I am sure he would not be so intenceified if he was just running his gym and going about his bussiness with no thought of competting .
I look foreward to his comback , it will be awesom, and good luck milos you will be very surprised just as alot will on how well you do !! , but hey no more 10 minute routines ok !! :D
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Milos is bluffing. I guarantee, right here and right now, that Milos will NOT come back. And you can take that to the bank!
Can you back this statement up Lucas?? i suppose Milos personaly told you this himself!!! LOL!!!! i speak wth the man on a regulat basis and i can gurantee know him alot better than you! I just spend 4 days with him in Australian and he said he is making a come back!! so why doubt that?? He has made the thread on his own forum. For sure a show in 2007 or even as soon as the European Grand Prix after the Olympia this year!
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Yeah Im with Luke , luke and milos are close plus he posted here hymself that he was ganna come back , and we all know milos is a man of confiction and his word !!!
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I mean that steroids alone add only 5-10%, maybe even less. But combinations of drugs can have a greater effect than that. Gordon_Gekko has learned that for many pros, steroids have had even less of an effect. So why take them? To help recovery. A tan adds 5% to a physique so if you look at the numbers, steroids may have only the same effect!
I have some waterfront property to sell you, CHEAP!!! Need a bridge to go over the water, got that too! I'll make you a package deal!
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Can you back this statement up Lucas?? i suppose Milos personaly told you this himself!!! LOL!!!! i speak wth the man on a regulat basis and i can gurantee know him alot better than you! I just spend 4 days with him in Australian and he said he is making a come back!! so why doubt that?? He has made the thread on his own forum. For sure a show in 2007 or even as soon as the European Grand Prix after the Olympia this year!
I have a strong feeling that Milos will fall into a portal and go back in time, therefore missing the contest. I could be wrong, of course. But that is my opinion.