since ronnie has so much (more) muscle in his back, the "standing relaxed" pics are not the best ones to detect his separation and dryness, because his lats are just jammed together with all the other muscles on his frame . . . the best pics to tell how waterlogged or not he is are the ones in which he is just beginning his lat spread, and the lats are pulled up . . . the Ronnie equivalent of the pic below . . . and I don't have any of them, but I'm sure Hulkster does.