Stock Market discussion

[FitnessFrenzy]

[sync pulse]

The little guy always loses. Always. ALWAYS. ALL WAYS.

Amateurs don’t understand that they’re dealing with professionals and this isn’t a fucking joke. If somebody with no experience got into the ring against a professional boxer they wouldn’t think it would go well yet for some reason they think the stock market is different.

Things traded on an exchange (stocks/commoditie futures) show indications of what the "big guys" are doing by the formations on the price and volume charts...Little guys think they can deduce what is going to happen and ride the wave like a surfer...and maybe some can.

[El Diablo Blanco]

The bottom is falling out.  One dude has lost millions on reddit. WTF!  Should have cashed out.  Now lingering people are buying shares while the bottom is crashing.  The denial on that site is hillarious.

[MAXX]

Ofcourse it will crash eventually, it was shorted for a reason. The company itself is worthless, artificially held up by investors.

[MAXX]

good take

[FitnessFrenzy]

#Amazon, #Facebook and #Alphabet have earned >$90bn in combined annual profits in 2020.

[FitnessFrenzy]

[oldtimer1]

Stocks have been going fantastic for four years. People are afraid now with Democrats in charge. I think we will see a massive sell off. It's a question of when and not if it will happen. Democrats want their self created shut downs to end. The economy will temporary soar when they achieve this goal during the predicted summer months then then the big crash will come later. No one has a crystal ball but it's coming. When it does happen it will be a panic sell off and not a gradual one. Watch the stock market lose over 25% value on one day. The second day will be worse.

[Les Grossman]

Stocks have been going fantastic for four years. People are afraid now with Democrats in charge. I think we will see a massive sell off. It's a question of when and not if it will happen. Democrats want their self created shut downs to end. The economy will temporary soar when they achieve this goal during the predicted summer months then then the big crash will come later. No one has a crystal ball but it's coming. When it does happen it will be a panic sell off and not a gradual one. Watch the stock market lose over 25% value on one day. The second day will be worse.

The economy has been shut down for a year and the stock market (DJIA) has continued to climb over 30,000, the bubble is very easy to see.

When you start to hear the fringe funds (the second tier guys) start talking about going to cash....get out.

Look back at the Obama crash in 2008 and compare it to the mini crash in early 2020. The next big slice will last a long time under the current administration.

[OlympiaGym]

Bill Gates essentially admitted this morning on CNBC that he’s short on Tesla. I think he’s right. All this talk of Tesla being more than a car company seems like BS to me. Moreover, all of these car companies are making EVs now. I’m up 60% in Ford, which i took a position in shortly before someone put up a thread on here about how Ford was going bankrupt (I can’t find the thread). On the other hand, I sold Tata Motors right before it took off. I see most car companies doing well with the great EV conversion that’s coming.

[irishdave]

good take

Us Irish know our stuff

[El Diablo Blanco]

Bill Gates essentially admitted this morning on CNBC that he’s short on Tesla. I think he’s right. All this talk of Tesla being more than a car company seems like BS to me. Moreover, all of these car companies are making EVs now. I’m up 60% in Ford, which i took a position in shortly before someone put up a thread on here about how Ford was going bankrupt (I can’t find the thread). On the other hand, I sold Tata Motors right before it took off. I see most car companies doing well with the great EV conversion that’s coming.

Just look at Tesla's P/E ratio.  It is insane.  Apple recorded a $120 Billion quarter and they are valued just 3 times more than Tesla who is lucky to break a billion.

[OlympiaGym]

Just look at Tesla's P/E ratio.  It is insane.  Apple recorded a $120 Billion quarter and they are valued just 3 times more than Tesla who is lucky to break a billion.

I buy more Apple on every dip - like right now. It’s a great growth and income stock to just squirrel away.

[El Diablo Blanco]

I buy more Apple on every dip - like right now. It’s a great growth and income stock to just squirrel away.

I always thought Apple was overpriced at as a 2.2 trillion dollar company. yet they make 1.2 trillion a year and I realize they are underpriced.

[FitnessFrenzy]

[OlympiaGym]

Clover Health isn’t for me but I like his advice about having different trading platforms for your different investing goals. I have one account where I trade frequently and try to make money and one where I put my long term income stocks.

[FitnessFrenzy]

I always thought Apple was overpriced at as a 2.2 trillion dollar company. yet they make 1.2 trillion a year and I realize they are underpriced.

It says a lot that Apple is Warren Buffett's biggest holding.

[gib]

This year, especially Q3 and Q4, value "old economy" stocks are going to come roaring back as gains from "growth stocks" recycle back into value. Such stocks are also the place you want to be in the next phases of the economic cycle.

Mark my words on this...

[El Diablo Blanco]

The stock market took a nice ride up with the help of the stimulus money.  A lot of people who didn't need those first couple of checks just used apps like Robinhood and put it in the stock market.  Now the market is inching higher daily in hopes of Biden passing another stimulus plan.  Problem is they lowered the bar in who will get the checks.  Now it'll just be the lower earners which means they need this money and won't just dump it into the stock market.  Once the market realizes they aren't getting the bump they thought they would from this new plan, all stocks will take a big dip.

[SOMEPARTS]

It says a lot that Apple is Warren Buffett's biggest holding.

At least they actually make something of value that is superior in the marketplace.

[SOMEPARTS]

The stock market took a nice ride up with the help of the stimulus money.  A lot of people who didn't need those first couple of checks just used apps like Robinhood and put it in the stock market.  Now the market is inching higher daily in hopes of Biden passing another stimulus plan.  Problem is they lowered the bar in who will get the checks.  Now it'll just be the lower earners which means they need this money and won't just dump it into the stock market.  Once the market realizes they aren't getting the bump they thought they would from this new plan, all stocks will take a big dip.

It's a race to prosperity or hyperinflation. History has already shown us how this goes. Printing like they know it will be worthless.

[GigantorX]

The stock market took a nice ride up with the help of the stimulus money.  A lot of people who didn't need those first couple of checks just used apps like Robinhood and put it in the stock market.  Now the market is inching higher daily in hopes of Biden passing another stimulus plan.  Problem is they lowered the bar in who will get the checks.  Now it'll just be the lower earners which means they need this money and won't just dump it into the stock market.  Once the market realizes they aren't getting the bump they thought they would from this new plan, all stocks will take a big dip.

The feedback cycle is similar to a cocaine user.

[TheGrinch]

Why in the world is the 30 year bond tanking so hard?


WTF?

[FitnessFrenzy]

Why in the world is the 30 year bond tanking so hard?

I think yields  (interst rates) on the longer term bonds are going up. Thus, the value of the existing bonds go down.
Look at the 10 year bond yield on investing.com - this is an example of what I am saying.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Why in the world is the 30 year bond tanking so hard?


WTF?

it's because our entire economy is smoke and mirrors now.