Author Topic: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?  (Read 6567 times)

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2021, 02:37:38 PM »
Edward I "Longshanks", King of England

Henry III, King of England

John I "Lackland", King of England

No joke. For what it's worth, these are my ancestors.

Maybe there is some inheritance that I am owed  :D

What about Edward II?

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #51 on: March 29, 2021, 02:39:53 PM »
Im willing to bet this part of history is a lie.
Damn! Nice one.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2021, 02:47:00 PM »

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2021, 02:47:14 PM »
Edward I "Longshanks", King of England

Henry III, King of England

John I "Lackland", King of England

No joke. For what it's worth, these are my ancestors.

Maybe there is some inheritance that I am owed  :D

Ask Queen Elizabeth...soon.  She's 94 years old. She may not be around much longer.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2021, 02:55:24 PM »
What about Edward II?
It's merely a snapshot of my family tree.

Too many siblings to list.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2021, 05:02:35 PM »
Edward I "Longshanks", King of England

Henry III, King of England

John I "Lackland", King of England

No joke. For what it's worth, these are my ancestors.

Maybe there is some inheritance that I am owed  :D

Being the court piss bucket boy doesn’t mean you’re ancestor was related to the King.

Eat some cocks Fatzzo.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #56 on: March 30, 2021, 07:03:01 PM »
It's merely a snapshot of my family tree.

Too many siblings to list.


or just no $ 120 to do DNA test    ;D

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #57 on: March 30, 2021, 09:11:49 PM »
History is revisionist history because of liberals. It's being changed to suit the liberal narrative.  Statues are being taken down. If you had slaves generations ago historic figures are being discredited. Hitler's party was the socialist party. Revisionist history spins this.  Liberal ideology are silencing opposing views using spin calling it fascist views. Fascists used propaganda and silenced opposing views through censorship, intimidation and violence.

 Liberals'?  You really think we treated the indians fairly? You really think we treated the blacks fairly? You think experiments on blacks didn't take place? You think Jews weren't killed by the millions? Nah.... history was warped by conservatives... what actually happened is being revealed by liberal's and you don't like it.. because you're old.

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« Reply #58 on: March 30, 2021, 09:25:34 PM »
Liberals'?  You really think we treated the indians fairly? You really think we treated the blacks fairly? You think experiments on blacks didn't take place? You think Jews weren't killed by the millions? Nah.... history was warped by conservatives... what actually happened is being revealed by liberal's and you don't like it.. because you're old.

What's going on today is not about taking ownership of the past, not about righting the wrongs of the past. It's more sinister, it's about destroying.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #59 on: March 30, 2021, 09:27:58 PM »
Liberals'?  You really think we treated the indians fairly? You really think we treated the blacks fairly? You think experiments on blacks didn't take place? You think Jews weren't killed by the millions? Nah.... history was warped by conservatives... what actually happened is being revealed by liberal's and you don't like it.. because you're old.

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Do you think we treated Trump fairly during his presidency?

Seriously though do you think police are treated fairly by the media? Or are the majority of those who protect and serve looking for minorities to kill?

People are always mistreated throughout history, it will never change. Success for one is at the suffering of another.

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« Reply #60 on: March 31, 2021, 03:54:30 PM »
Liberals'?  You really think we treated the indians fairly? You really think we treated the blacks fairly? You think experiments on blacks didn't take place? You think Jews weren't killed by the millions? Nah.... history was warped by conservatives... what actually happened is being revealed by liberal's and you don't like it.. because you're old.

oldtimer isn't white

we had nothing to do with how the indians or blacks were treated as we weren't alive, we're all just reaping the benefits our white ancestors gave us including you and every other non white person in america

what would america look like today if not for white people taking over this country?  it would look like every other non white country, a shit hole that none of you would want to live in which is why you live in white countries

dwelling on the past is for losers, maybe learn to be grateful for what you have today

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #61 on: March 31, 2021, 04:11:04 PM »
oldtimer isn't white

we had nothing to do with how the indians or blacks were treated as we weren't alive, we're all just reaping the benefits our white ancestors gave us including you and every other non white person in america

what would america look like today if not for white people taking over this country?  it would look like every other non white country, a shit hole that none of you would want to live in which is why you live in white countries

dwelling on the past is for losers, maybe learn to be grateful for what you have today

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Great point.

The whole country would likely be littered with casinos and Native American jewelry shops.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #62 on: April 01, 2021, 06:47:44 AM »
Great point.

The whole country would likely be littered with casinos and Native American jewelry shops.
Many people do not get your level of sarcasm  :D

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #63 on: April 01, 2021, 07:15:01 AM »
Great point.

The whole country would likely be littered with casinos and Native American jewelry shops.

Indian Reservations are places of utter despair, tragedy and poverty, despite many, many billions given to them every year.  The top few percent get the rewards.  The rest get poverty, addiction and violence.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #64 on: April 01, 2021, 07:17:16 AM »
I would like to make an amendment: I can trace my lineage to English Kings on the paternal side of my family (my father's side)

I just got caught up of thinking of my grandmother as maternal. Everyone has two grandmothers. Maternal (mother's side) and paternal (father's side)


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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #65 on: April 01, 2021, 07:18:19 AM »
Indian Reservations are places of utter despair, tragedy and poverty, despite many, many billions given to them every year.  The top few percent get the rewards.  The rest get poverty, addiction and violence.
Sounds like human hierarchy, rather than a particular race or ethnicity.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #66 on: April 01, 2021, 08:23:29 AM »
I would like to make an amendment: I can trace my lineage to English Kings on the paternal side of my family (my father's side)

I just got caught up of thinking of my grandmother as maternal. Everyone has two grandmothers. Maternal (mother's side) and paternal (father's side)

You are so full of shit.

I wouldn’t be surprised if your mother and father had the same lineage, and were brother and sister.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #67 on: April 01, 2021, 09:46:09 AM »
You are so full of shit.

I wouldn’t be surprised if your mother and father had the same lineage, and were brother and sister.

Les this is a very common practice for the Royals, it keeps the bloodlines pure.

It’s ironic that a guy who self appointed himself king of a message board, would later find out he has a lineage of royalty....


It’s also shocking that a man that was so desperate for money begged Joon for $1000 would willingly spend $50 for a dna test to verify this.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #68 on: April 01, 2021, 10:33:41 AM »
I thought this was going to be a thread about the 1980 Olympia.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #69 on: April 01, 2021, 01:56:45 PM »
I thought this was going to be a thread about the 1980 Olympia.
I thought you were relevant.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #70 on: April 01, 2021, 02:05:00 PM »
That's too recent. Even if Germany won, there were enough people to interview, and enough written accounts to tell a mostly complete story of World War 2.

I'm talking more about ancient history. I'm talking about historians (Roman, Greek, etc...)

That usually commented on things that happened hundreds of years before.

As much as I love it, history is more assumption, conjecture, and embellishment, than actual fact.

The official narrative of the holocaust rests on very weak evidence. There is no evidence for the 6 million number (which is some sort of jewish religious prophecy they invoked much earlier even in WW1 for jews killed in eastern europe), and the evidence points to the camps themselves being work camps, not death camps. Indeed all of the western-liberated camps were claimed to be death camps yet they were found not to be. It was only the camps liberated by the jewish bolsheviks where these half-truths persisted until they were slowly debunked, the lies about bars of soap, lampshades, and other elaborate jewish victim fantasies.

What is most disgusting about the holocaust is that it seems to be used by revisionists as a cover to prevent questioning of the genocide of eastern europeans by Bolsheviks. Go into any history subreddit and ask questions about the role of jews in the holodomor and see how long before you are banned.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #71 on: April 01, 2021, 02:12:01 PM »
The official narrative of the holocaust rests on very weak evidence. There is no evidence for the 6 million number (which is some sort of jewish religious prophecy they invoked much earlier even in WW1 for jews killed in eastern europe), and the evidence points to the camps themselves being work camps, not death camps. Indeed all of the western-liberated camps were claimed to be death camps yet they were found not to be. It was only the camps liberated by the jewish bolsheviks where these half-truths persisted until they were slowly debunked, the lies about bars of soap, lampshades, and other elaborate jewish victim fantasies.

What is most disgusting about the holocaust is that it seems to be used by revisionists as a cover to prevent questioning of the genocide of eastern europeans by Bolsheviks. Go into any history subreddit and ask questions about the role of jews in the holodomor and see how long before you are banned.
I don't agree, but let's just assume that you are right. If "the powers that be" can manipulate things that happened in World War 2, than history is null and void.

I don't have any foreskin in the game, but I do believe that a widespread genocide happened. The actual numbers are irrelevant.

People start counting at 1.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #72 on: April 01, 2021, 05:45:53 PM »
When you put one foot in the past,and the other foot in the future,you are pissing on the present which is a gift.

Got that from AA and it makes sense,

Cant change the past,only can move forward and try to improve the future .

Besides who gives a flying fuck?  ;D

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #73 on: April 01, 2021, 06:48:56 PM »
I literally bought the Braveheart soundtrack on compact disc. It all makes sense now.

The family connection was strong.

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Re: How Much Of History Is Likely A Lie?
« Reply #74 on: April 01, 2021, 09:11:02 PM »
The actual numbers are irrelevant.

People start counting at 1.

The details seem to matter. There was a big row a few weeks back when Putin said many of the Jews who died in the holocaust were Russian Jews. He might have said 40 or 60%, I forget. Jews were offended and said that was a lie.

As nzgs said many of the camps which were said to have been death camps were later admitted to have been work camps. Most of the holocaust now rest on Auschwitz specifically. If it was admitted that gas chambers were not used to gas Jews in Auschwitz it would be a huge, huge deal. Even if millions of Jews died via other means. There are Jewish revisionists who say that gas chambers specifically are a myth but they used diesel exhaust instead in other camps to murder millions of Jews. If there was a change in that "little" detail it would be a huge deal.