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The "truth" about that "evidence"
« on: February 20, 2024, 01:58:04 PM »
What it is about evidence that makes Trumpturds think it is invisible?  They seem surprised when no one else sees it.  How stupid can you be to say you have evidence but yet when it is requested, decide not to share it?  Oh, pretty fucking stupid apparently.  Which is why pretty fucking stupid people are the only ones who do this.  Trumpy, Rudy, MyPillowGuy, etc.

And how stupid does a person have to be to actually believe them?

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A right-wing group cried voter fraud. Then they were asked to provide evidence.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=A+right-wing+group+cried+voter+fraud.+Then+they+were+asked+to+provide+evidence.

Donald Trump isn’t the only right-wing fabulist who has learned that when you enter a courtroom, rules matter. True the Vote, a national group devoted to spreading conspiracies about voter fraud, just suffered a humiliation in a Georgia courtroom, thanks to a judge’s simple request that they — get this — provide evidence for their claims of fraud during the 2020 election and the subsequent Senate runoff.

While it’s understandable to despair at the ease with which the liars and con artists of the right’s “election integrity” movement pump fabrications into the national bloodstream, their virtually unbroken string of failures in the courts may offer some solace. At least there, the system seems to work.


True the Vote admits: No evidence to support Georgia election claims
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=true+the+vote+admits+no+evidence+to+support+Georgia+election+claims

A conservative group has told a Georgia judge that it doesn’t have evidence to support its claims of illegal ballot stuffing during the 2020 general election and a runoff two months later.  That conservative group would be True The Vote

If the organization True the Vote sounds at all familiar to national audiences, it’s probably because its work was featured in a conspiratorial documentary film called “2,000 Mules.” Trump and others championing his Big Lie about the presidential election have repeatedly pointed to Dinesh D’Souza’s movie as proof of systemic wrongdoing in the 2020 race.

In reality, of course, “2,000 Mules” has been thoroughly discredited as laughable nonsense.

Nevertheless, the group whose work served as the basis for the documentary claimed that it had obtained “a detailed account of coordinated efforts to collect and deposit ballots in drop boxes across metro Atlanta” in the 2020 cycle. True the Vote would not, however, share its purported evidence with state investigators.

So, the Georgia State Election Board obtained a subpoena, and a state judge ultimately ordered the organization to provide the evidence it had collected.

The AP report added, “In their written response, attorneys for True the Vote said the group had no names or other documentary evidence to share.”

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Re: The "truth" about that "evidence"
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2024, 04:46:24 PM »
Uh-Oh, we got more of that "evidence" coming up.   The evidence in the first go-around was so sensational that he couldn't even share it with us.  (Must have been the same evidence Trumpy promised he was going to present at Bedminster but didn't.)

It's so explosive that he will pay $5 Million Dollars to anyone who can prove it is not true..... oh wait.    Just wait, the tenth time is the charm.  Or fifteenth.  You will just have to stay tuned and see.   :D

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Mike Lindell promises new evidence in Lake lawsuit. 'The most explosive evidence ever!'
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Mike+Lindell+promises+new+evidence+in+Lake+lawsuit.+%27The+most+explosive+evidence+ever%21%27

Coming Friday to a U.S. Supreme Court near you: “Explosive” new evidence in Kari Lake’s bid to outlaw Arizona’s vote counting machines.

No, really.

"This is big, everybody,” MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell announced Saturday, on Steve Bannon’s War Room podcast. “This is what we've been waiting for.”More likely, this is what he’s hoping will sell a few pillows to pay for all those defamation cases he’s facing from Dominion Voting Systems et al – three at last count -- but I digress.

Far-right politicians and their pals, in a quest for money or a rung up the political food chain, have spent the last three-plus years inventing yarns about the many devious ways in which the 2020 election was stolen in Arizona. Many of them involved Dominion’s tabulation machines, which count the vote in Maricopa County.

Remember the “Kraken” lawsuit, filed by then-state GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward – the one claiming “at least” 412,494 Arizona ballots were phony, part of a Venezuelan-style plot to secretly switch thousands of votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden?

It was laughed out of the court by a federal judge who noted that “gossip and innuendo” does not constitute evidence.

Remember Maricopa County’s independent audit?

The Republican-run county Board of Supervisors hired two sets of elections experts who concluded the tabulation equipment wasn’t even connected to the internet, much less hacked to steal the election.

Remember the three IT experts who examined the county’s routers and Splunk logs, under the watchful eye of a special master (former GOP Rep. John Shadegg) agreed to by the Arizona Senate and Maricopa County?

All three experts separately concluded that that tabulation equipment wasn’t hacked to steal the election.

Remember the Senate’s own audit?

Nope, no hacking found there either. In fact, a hand count of the county’s 2.1 million paper ballots matched the machine count, showing Biden the winner.

So naturally Lake and Finchem, then candidates for governor and secretary of state, sued the state of Arizona and Maricopa County in April 2022, asking a judge to bar use of the machines tabulation of votes in the 2022 election and instead require that paper ballots be used.

In their lawsuit, which was underwritten by Lindell, they claimed that even if the machines weren't hacked, they could be hacked and there's no way to verify the machine count unless we start voting with paper ballots.

Never mind that Arizona already uses paper ballots and in fact requires a hand count of a random sample of those ballots, to verify the machine count.

U.S. District Court John J. Tuchi threw out their lawsuit in August 2022, noting that the pair provided no evidence that machine counting produces inaccurate results and no proof that a hand count of ballots would be more accurate.

Then he slapped the Lake/Finchem lawyers with sanctions for their “frivolous” waste of court time and taxpayer money.

Then he socked the attorneys -- Kurt Olsen, Andrew Parker and Alan Dershowitz -- with the county’s $122,000 legal bill.

Then the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals unanimously sent Lake and Finchem packing, not buying their warning that vote counting machines are the handmaiden of the devil.

“Their operative complaint relies on a ‘long chain of hypothetical contingencies’ that have never occurred in Arizona,” the three-judge panel ruled in October.

In other words, a conspiracy must be more than a figment of your imagination — or a calculated political strategy — if you want the courts to take you seriously.

You’d think that would be that, given the wholesale shellacking of Lake and Finchem. But, of course, that is never that when it comes to election conspiracy theories and yet another chance to rally the base and shake lose some pocket change.

And Lake and Finchem are now running for the U.S. Senate and the state Senate.

Ron Filipkowski, who runs the MeidasTouch Network blog, reports that Lindell breathlessly announced over the weekend that he has uncovered new evidence and this week will be asking the U.S. Supreme Court to take up the case.

"This is big everybody! This is what we've been waiting for. It's a Petition for Writ of Certiorari …

“This isn't just some tinfoil hat case, this is huge …

“This new evidence is the most explosive evidence ever!...

“Just in the last two months we got this. The lawyers are excited, the whole world is gonna watch us. This coming Friday on the steps of the Supreme Court, 3 p.m.. We're gonna hand-deliver this to the world. It's going to be the biggest thing ever, and we are going to save this country!"

The biggest thing ever.

Ex-Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne, a major funder of the Senate 2020 audit, also is promoting the supposed big reveal, saying on social media, "The Enigma surrendered her secrets."

Kari Lake, the Senate candidate who recently said she’s moving on from the 2022 election, is also touting this explosive new evidence.

“More to come,” she teased over the weekend on social media.Why do I get the feeling this explosion will be a like a pile of pillows blowing up in Lindell’s and Lake’s faces.

Foam fluff everywhere.

America is saved.
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