Guy put on 75 pds of muscle within 6 months !!

[affeman]

WTF - that's crazy !!

[Marvin Martian]

Great transformation but doesn’t look anywhere near 75lbs of muscle

[Gym Rat]

Guy put on 75 pds of muscle water & glycogen within 6 months !!

From TRT to full-blown cycle I imagine... Got the D-bol moon-face thing going on..

[IroNat]

Who does the left pic remind you of?

Hint: A member who just asked for opinions in another thread.

[TheShape.]

What causes their heads to resemble pumpkins? High blood pressure or a GH side effect?

[Van_Bilderass]

In a case like this it's 100% that the before pic is dieted down while losing some muscle. The gain is so drastic that it's not really possible or likely to be "new gains."

I see a rare pec assymmetry.

[a_pupil]

In a case like this it's 100% that the before pic is dieted down while losing some muscle. The gain is so drastic that it's not really possible or likely to be "new gains."

I see a rare pec assymmetry.

Pec was the first thing I noticed. No amount of gear is solving that.

[dj181]

160/100 bp i bet

bodyweight be it fat or muscle is the number one cause of an early death

[ThisisOverload]

What causes their heads to resemble pumpkins? High blood pressure or a GH side effect?

Water retention from AAS.

Dbol and Anadrol are known for that.

High dose of Test can cause the same moon face.

[jude2]

That's not 75 pounds of muscle.

[Marvin Martian]

That's not 75 pounds of muscle.

Not even close. Looks like 30 or so to me

[Van_Bilderass]

160/100 bp i bet

bodyweight be it fat or muscle is the number one cause of an early death

Bodyweight might also sometimes be what keeps someone alive in case of serious illness. Cachexia as a result of illness might be something that kills you. That's why anabolic steroids might help keep someone alive.

Your point still stands overall. But it depends, I think.

Sort of OT but you know how lower IGF-1 might extend life. I saw several post recently on IG about some new drug for dogs that is supposed to increase their lifespan by lowering IGF-1. It might, but then again it might be more complex than that (when discussing drugs like GH, whether it helps longevity or just makes you perhaps just feel younger/look younger):

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6826138/

Here a combo of GH, metformin and DHEA made study participants "2 years younger" based on "epigenetic clocks." The main driver here was thought to be the GH and the metformin and DHEA were included to lower insulin and insulin resistance from the GH, which we know are negative for longevity.

Of course I am here trying to justify the use of steroids and GH because I like the subjective effects lol. But it goes to show that imo some PEDs can both shorten and extend longevity depending on the context. I know I'd rather be strong than frail in old age.

[Dorian Cutler]

WTF - that's crazy !!

you can tell this is a man with deep insecurities

[affeman]

you can tell this is a man with deep insecurities

How can you tell?

[Dorian Cutler]

How can you tell?

socks pulled all the way up while in a thong

[affeman]

socks pulled all the way up while in a thong

So the added size obviously helped him to overcome his insecurities

[Dorian Cutler]

So the added size obviously helped him to overcome his insecurities

its true

[Dorian Cutler]

We should ask the meat review man to join getbig. We would have great times

[affeman]

We should ask the meat review man to join getbig. We would have great times

Would be funny as hell, him commenting on Bhankys progress pics etc.

[Dorian Cutler]

Would be funny as hell, him commenting on Bhankys progress pics etc.

"He looks incredibly old"

[Humble Narcissist]

Water retention from AAS.

Dbol and Anadrol are known for that.

High dose of Test can cause the same moon face.

If he uses lots of Anadrol he won't be around long.

[balzac]

So the added size obviously helped him to overcome his insecurities

[Van_Bilderass]

If he uses lots of Anadrol he won't be around long.

How much is "a lot"?

I've had a few long Anadrol cycles. About a year long, then a week or two off and then a year on again. From 25mg up to 250mg for short stints. One fella on a forum said he's been on 100mg for about 25 years. If you're unlucky you could get those liver cysts that are a problem if they burst or if your liver isn't very robust you could get jaundiced and so on, it's genetic. My liver values have always been in range and many find the same with Anadrol, strangely enough as it's considered more "toxic" than other orals. The biggest issue with roids in general, not just Anadrol, is high BP.

Anadrol is nice in that you just take a little pill and it's like a gram or a gram and a half of testosterone. It's nice if you like feeling strong.
That oldfella here misunderstands the "state of underground Anadrol" these days lol. Just because some take more than one tab a day doesn't mean the stuff is any weaker than in the past. One little Anadrol packs quite a punch, I once had some crude Anadrol pills from "IP" that were sent from Pakistan taped to a card in a letter. I took 20 pills, one a day, and I was 25lbs heavier after, didn't even train once Doesn't mean you can't take or tolerate more.

Nasser was taking 10 Anadrol a day according to Milos and Chad said he was jaundiced sometimes (Chad said he took 5, Milos said 10, both can be true). And he died but not from Anadrol per se IMO, it's more like the total Androgen load (say he was taking 5 grams of injects on top) and long term high BP.

Hey, long ass post on Anadrol 

TL;DR you can live a long time while taking Anadrol.

[dj181]

Bodyweight might also sometimes be what keeps someone alive in case of serious illness. Cachexia as a result of illness might be something that kills you. That's why anabolic steroids might help keep someone alive.

Your point still stands overall. But it depends, I think.

Sort of OT but you know how lower IGF-1 might extend life. I saw several post recently on IG about some new drug for dogs that is supposed to increase their lifespan by lowering IGF-1. It might, but then again it might be more complex than that (when discussing drugs like GH, whether it helps longevity or just makes you perhaps just feel younger/look younger):

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6826138/

Here a combo of GH, metformin and DHEA made study participants "2 years younger" based on "epigenetic clocks." The main driver here was thought to be the GH and the metformin and DHEA were included to lower insulin and insulin resistance from the GH, which we know are negative for longevity.

Of course I am here trying to justify the use of steroids and GH because I like the subjective effects lol. But it goes to show that imo some PEDs can both shorten and extend longevity depending on the context. I know I'd rather be strong than frail in old age.

Metformin is a longevity compound and so is fasting and starvation

Mtor activation and igf-1 rasing decrease lifespan

Wonder if it's best to activate Mtor less often like once or twice a day rather than 5 or 6 times a day? Also inter fasting in a 4 or at most 8 hours eating window?

I'll be eating 3 meals a day and try to get them in an 8 hour window with double training sessions so wake up and eat and then do first session then eat and do second session and then eat

I will get in one gram pro per pound which is very high for.me as I usually just get to .6 grams per pound

I'm going on a Recomp but I am leaner than I thought I was so I will be able to.reach 5% body fat in 3 weeks MAX probably even in 2 weeks

I've got 2 weeks work of PRIMO left so I'd like to get there while the Primo is still.active

250 sust

200 primo

80 VAR

That's one gram of gear

[joswift]

Metformin is a longevity compound and so is fasting and starvation

Mtor activation and igf-1 rasing decrease lifespan

Wonder if it's best to activate Mtor less often like once or twice a day rather than 5 or 6 times a day? Also inter fasting in a 4 or at most 8 hours eating window?

I'll be eating 3 meals a day and try to get them in an 8 hour window with double training sessions so wake up and eat and then do first session then eat and do second session and then eat

I will get in one gram pro per pound which is very high for.me as I usually just get to .6 grams per pound

I'm going on a Recomp but I am leaner than I thought I was so I will be able to.reach 5% body fat in 3 weeks MAX probably even in 2 weeks

I've got 2 weeks work of PRIMO left so I'd like to get there while the Primo is still.active

250 sust

200 primo

80 VAR

That's one gram of gear

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