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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan Discussions => Topic started by: pumpster on February 26, 2006, 02:50:44 PM
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Explanation looks good & there were witnesses. She could be out making appearances again in no time. There's just that pesky 'lil detail about the taser. :D
Bodybuilder murder suspect says live-in friend overdosed on drugs
February 26, 2006
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LAS VEGAS (AP) - A female bodybuilder charged with her husband for murdering their live-in aide told police the aide died of a drug overdose and the couple burned the body in a "panic" to avoid negative publicity.
Kelly Ryan, 33, faces murder, arson and kidnapping charges along with her husband Craig Titus, 41, for killing Melissa James, a 28-year-old former fitness instructor. James' body was found in the trunk of Ryan's burned-out Jaguar sedan off a desert highway Dec. 14.
According to police, Ryan said the couple and two friends discovered James dead with a needle sticking out of her arm in Ryan's car in her garage one night.
Ryan said she and Titus decided to dispose of the body. She said they feared notoriety given their celebrity status as fitness champions and were nervous about calling police because Titus is a convicted felon. "I would say probably like a slight panic probably set in because, just, never, ever, ever had to deal with anything like that before," Ryan told investigators. "Craig and I started thinking, ah, she's got drugs in the house, uh, he's a felon."
The couple carried James' body into the house, wrapped her in a blanket and taped her head and feet with duct tape, she said. The couple traveled with James in the trunk to a Wal-Mart, where Ryan bought seven bottles of lighter fluid and a barbecue set with her own credit card, she said.
They met up with Anthony Gross, 23, who is accused of helping the couple dispose of the body, at a gas station and then Titus burned the car in the desert, Ryan said. "Just like, 'Oh my God, I can't believe what we just did, and ah, we gotta think about this," she said.
Defense attorneys for Titus and Ryan said statements were taken from their clients illegally and said they expected they would be suppressed in court.
Ryan also told police the couple suspected James of stealing their identities and making unauthorized transactions on their credit card. She said the couple confronted James about the theft the night she died and told her she was not welcome to stay with them any more. Ryan said they dropped James off at a convenience store, where she was to find her way to the airport and back to her home in New Jersey.
The couple, arrested Dec. 23 near Boston, remain in a Nevada jail before their preliminary hearing March 29. Gross remains under house arrest after posting $13,000 bail. Titus is a 1996 bodybuilding champion and Mr. Olympia competitor. Ryan is a past Fitness America and Fitness International winner.
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If Melissa was already dead, why did they shoot her with a Taser SIX times?
This alibi doesn't pass the smell test.
Kelly has told too many different stories.
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Why the duct tape. Why take the body out of the car and carry tothe house. Why not just leave it the car and do whatever. They could have pushed the car into Lake Mead and made t look like she was fucked up and drove the car into the lake. Or off a cliff or something. Still a bunch of lies and two idiots trying to cover it up. Scumbags to the end. Afraid of negative publicity. What a couple of ultramorons. I guess they never thought murder and arson and kidnapping were negative. Dipshits scumbags deserve everything bad thats going to happen to them. They are drug addicts scumbags. Good Bye
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GUILTY and GUILTY oh yeah and GUILTY
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Defintely not looking good no matter how you look at it.
Freak :-\
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Ah.......one thing.......... ???
Has anyone ever thought to try and PROVE the Theft Charge against Melissa?
Where are the withdrawls from the Bank?
Where is the money trail?
How much money are we talking about?
When did she "Steal the Credit Card?"
What purchases did she make?
How much money did she have in her bank account?
Please, Identity Theft requires alot of manuevers and she certainly did not Look like Kelly?
Did she have Kelly's ID?
Is there a document with Melissa forging Kelly's name?
This alibi stinks the same way Melissa has been portrade as a "Personal Assistant"
Anyone else on the board have a Live in Personal Assistant?
D you know of anyone with a Live in Personal Assistant?
Things that make you go, "Hmmmmmmmmmm..........?"
Peace,
S. Ray
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The devil has decided that this dance is over.
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The statement by KR about a drug overdose and then panicing and bruning MJ is never in a million years going to fly in court-especially with all of KR and CT's prior inconsistant and conflicting statements/stories.
They are obviously liars, and no jury would ever fall for such baloney-well, maybe the OJ jury-but that's the only one.
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I get to agree with Shawn on this. They keep portraying Melissa as this really bad person stealing and all. But what proof have they given the cops. I swear the more they lie the worse its getting. Their attorneys suck. I really think they are in it just for the money and publicity. They know they are guilty and are just there doing there part. They could care less. Why would they. Kelly and Craig have buried themselves so deep it is almost impossible to get out.
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They are obviously liars, and no jury would ever fall for such baloney-well, maybe the OJ jury-but that's the only one.
I'd throw in the Michael Jackson jury too
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Has anyone heard what their reason for the taser was? I have read on various boards that they admit to tasing her,but I never heard the reason they give. Also I am curious, what the hell are taser dots and how can they tell it was fired six times or whatever.Obviously I know nothing about that kind of stuff ;D.. and I am just curious.
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i want to see and hear them explain all this under cross examination
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Taser guns have electronic montitors that track each transmittion of electrical current. Do a search engine on it for more details.
I tell ya, it is getting harder and hared to get away with Murder unless the collection of evidence is tampered with ala, OJ and Barretta! :'(
The Lawyers are doing what they get paid to do, everyone has a right to an attorney even Jeffrey Dahmer had an attorney with Body Parts still in his fridge and food stuck in his teeth with a naked boy running down the street from his house!
That being said, when the money runs out...........Book em Danno! :-\
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That's exactly what I was thinking Shawn...leave it to Craig & kelly to claim melissa stole something from them to take the blame off of themsleves..it's the old "the whole world done us wrong...we're the good guys, everyone is against us" routine.
I would really like to see the receipts, the charges, the signatures, what was purchased, the timeline on all of that. She was their assistant so if she did make purchases with theiur funds, it could have been pre-authorized
there is no reason to duct tape a dead person's face...this is all a load of crap
And if they have witnesses who saw Melissa's body in the car with a needle in her arm...who's to say Craig & kelly didn't stage it that way just for viewing purposes?
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Ah.......one thing.......... ???
Has anyone ever thought to try and PROVE the Theft Charge against Melissa?
Where are the withdrawls from the Bank?
Where is the money trail?
How much money are we talking about?
When did she "Steal the Credit Card?"
What purchases did she make?
How much money did she have in her bank account?
Please, Identity Theft requires alot of manuevers and she certainly did not Look like Kelly?
Did she have Kelly's ID?
Is there a document with Melissa forging Kelly's name?
This alibi stinks the same way Melissa has been portrade as a "Personal Assistant"
Anyone else on the board have a Live in Personal Assistant?
D you know of anyone with a Live in Personal Assistant?
Things that make you go, "Hmmmmmmmmmm..........?"
Peace,
S. Ray
The only thing this identity theft accusation seems to do is provide them with a motive for killing her.
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The only thing this identity theft accusation seems to do is provide them with a motive for killing her.
2000 years ago if a woman stole property from a man her hands would have been chopped off. but we've civilized a little since then now we taser them, duct tape em, drug em and set the car on fire.
folks, this is a classic example of overkill. hyped-up drug induced overkill. may they rot for eternity in hell.
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All that they need to do is to have the "2" wittnesses come forward ::) ::)
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All that they need to do is to have the "2" wittnesses come forward ::) ::)
sounds like a defense team " leak" of info.. ::)
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oh i don't know...I can think of plenty of easy ways to get away with murder...1 simple one is to simply give a little ghb to a person and just before he/she goes out, stick the end of a toothbrush down their throat to inducing vomitting...Even if they don't choak on their own vomit when they are out, simply plug their nose and mouth...They will be dead in no time..And with vomit all over themselves, it will look like an overdose...
thanks, we'll use that in our next movie
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I guess this is probably the "Megan" Kelly was talking about that was one of the witnesses and her fiance/husband "Jeremy" ? No wonder she took Kelly off of her page so quickly last December. Since she and Kelly apparently worked as well as played together.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=52356.msg837405#msg837405
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thanks, we'll use that in our next movie
i just deleted it...I don't want to give anyone any ideas...Their could be another "Craig" sitting on the other side of the screen reading these things :)
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i just deleted it...I don't want to give anyone any ideas...Their could be another "Craig" sitting on the other side of the screen reading these things :)
Craiggers is kicking himself now.... ;D ;)
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Too late, it's not deleted.
More importantly, why would you waste detailed thought on this in the first place?
Feel free to share with us any info that you may have on buried bodies.::)
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Too late, it's not deleted.
More importantly, why would you waste detailed thought on this in the first place?
Feel free to share with us any info that you may have on buried bodies.::)
why does CSI have a number 1 show???
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They could of easily just left the body out in the desert somewhere. With all the wildlife in the desert and such they would have eaten it in no time. Plus with the heat, sand, and wind the bones probably would have been gone in no time too. Hell the easiet thing would have just thrown her into the lake.
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They could of easily just left the body out in the desert somewhere. With all the wildlife in the desert and such they would have eaten it in no time. Plus with the heat, sand, and wind the bones probably would have been gone in no time too. Hell the easiet thing would have just thrown her into the lake.
yeah i agree..At the very least, they could have picked up a 50 gallon drum, filled it with Coca Cola and then buried the drum in the dessert...go back in a week and dump the the cola into the earth...I think i learned that in 7th grade science class...the teacher took a t-bone steak put coke in a pot and in 2 days it was gone...I guess Craig should have hung out with grade schoolers..
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Craig & Kell should have spent more time watching TV. According to the following article, they go right to the head of the "dumb criminal" class:
'The CSI effect'
TV drama is how-to guide for killers on covering up crime scenes
When Tammy Klein began investigating crime scenes eight years ago, it was virtually unheard of for a killer to use bleach to clean up a bloody mess.
Today, the use of bleach, which destroys DNA, is not unusual in a planned homicide, said the senior criminalist from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.
Klein and other experts attribute such sophistication to television crime dramas like "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation," which give criminals helpful tips on how to cover up evidence.
Prosecutors have complained for years about "the CSI effect" on juries -- an expectation in every trial for the type of high-tech forensic evidence the show's investigators uncover. It also appears the popular show and its two spinoffs could be affecting how some crimes are committed. "They're actually educating these potential killers even more," said Capt. Ray Peavy, also of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department and head of the homicide division. "Sometimes I believe it may even encourage them when they see how simple it is to get away with on television."
A man charged in a recent double-homicide in northeast Ohio was a "CSI" fan and went to great lengths to cover his tracks, according to an affidavit filed by Trumbull County prosecutors.
Jermaine "Maniac" McKinney, 25, allegedly broke into a house, killed a mother and daughter and used bleach to remove their blood from his hands, prosecutors said. He also allegedly covered the interior of a getaway car with blankets to avoid transferring blood.
Prosecutors said McKinney burned the bodies, his clothing and removed his cigarette butts -- which would contain his DNA -- from the crime scene.
According to the affidavit, he also tried to throw some evidence into a lake, including a crowbar used to bludgeon one of the victims. The lake was frozen though and he shouted a profanity when the crowbar remained on the surface.
Investigators later recovered the evidence. McKinney, who was indicted this month on two counts of aggravated murder, aggravated burglary and other charges, could face the death penalty if convicted.
Cases where suspects burn and tamper with evidence seem to be increasing, said Chuck Morrow, chief of the criminal division in the Trumbull County Prosecutor's office.
"People are getting more sophisticated with making sure they're not leaving trace evidence at crime scenes," Morrow said.
Klein said most crimes aren't well planned and that detailed attention to prevent leaving trace evidence typically occurs in cases where someone has killed a family member or business partner.
"For the most part, our killings involve gang bangers who for the most part are pretty stupid," she said.
Sophisticated planning and concealment of evidence are aberrations, not the norm, said Larry Pozner, former president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.
Yet, in the six years since CBS, which did not return phone calls seeking comment, introduced "CSI," there's been a trend of fewer clues like hair, cigarette butts and the killer's blood left behind at crime scenes, Peavy said.
The more sophisticated the television story lines get, the better equipped criminals will be, Peavy said, adding that he never watches "CSI" because it's too unrealistic.
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Craig & Kell should have spent more time watching TV. According to the following article, they go right to the head of the "dumb criminal" class:
'The CSI effect'
TV drama is how-to guide for killers on covering up crime scenes
When Tammy Klein began investigating crime scenes eight years ago, it was virtually unheard of for a killer to use bleach to clean up a bloody mess.
Today, the use of bleach, which destroys DNA, is not unusual in a planned homicide, said the senior criminalist from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.
Klein and other experts attribute such sophistication to television crime dramas like "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation," which give criminals helpful tips on how to cover up evidence.
Prosecutors have complained for years about "the CSI effect" on juries -- an expectation in every trial for the type of high-tech forensic evidence the show's investigators uncover. It also appears the popular show and its two spinoffs could be affecting how some crimes are committed. "They're actually educating these potential killers even more," said Capt. Ray Peavy, also of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department and head of the homicide division. "Sometimes I believe it may even encourage them when they see how simple it is to get away with on television."
A man charged in a recent double-homicide in northeast Ohio was a "CSI" fan and went to great lengths to cover his tracks, according to an affidavit filed by Trumbull County prosecutors.
Jermaine "Maniac" McKinney, 25, allegedly broke into a house, killed a mother and daughter and used bleach to remove their blood from his hands, prosecutors said. He also allegedly covered the interior of a getaway car with blankets to avoid transferring blood.
Prosecutors said McKinney burned the bodies, his clothing and removed his cigarette butts -- which would contain his DNA -- from the crime scene.
According to the affidavit, he also tried to throw some evidence into a lake, including a crowbar used to bludgeon one of the victims. The lake was frozen though and he shouted a profanity when the crowbar remained on the surface.
Investigators later recovered the evidence. McKinney, who was indicted this month on two counts of aggravated murder, aggravated burglary and other charges, could face the death penalty if convicted.
Cases where suspects burn and tamper with evidence seem to be increasing, said Chuck Morrow, chief of the criminal division in the Trumbull County Prosecutor's office.
"People are getting more sophisticated with making sure they're not leaving trace evidence at crime scenes," Morrow said.
Klein said most crimes aren't well planned and that detailed attention to prevent leaving trace evidence typically occurs in cases where someone has killed a family member or business partner.
"For the most part, our killings involve gang bangers who for the most part are pretty stupid," she said.
Sophisticated planning and concealment of evidence are aberrations, not the norm, said Larry Pozner, former president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.
Yet, in the six years since CBS, which did not return phone calls seeking comment, introduced "CSI," there's been a trend of fewer clues like hair, cigarette butts and the killer's blood left behind at crime scenes, Peavy said.
The more sophisticated the television story lines get, the better equipped criminals will be, Peavy said, adding that he never watches "CSI" because it's too unrealistic.
yeah that stuff is pretty wild...I always said to myself that those make up artist and guys that make fat suits for hollywood and shoes that fit you but leave a print of 4 sizes smaller or larger then your own...fake tatoos, fake scars and what not could go rob banks all day long...leave fake evidence like some poor saps hair that you pulled out in a club while he was all drunk dancing only to be left at a crime scene on purpose...
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That's why police know that 90-95% of the time, the suspect is someone very close to the victim.
so when Joe Blows hair is used on the crime scene, if he has had no relationship to the victim it can be easily eliminated
Serial killings are not as common, althought they do get alot of attention
total destruction of evidence will become more difficult as technology advances. Genuine Transfer of Evidence almost always occurs whether the perp knows it or not. Aside from material that would rveal dna, there are carpet fibers (one of the things that has caught several serial killers inlcuding Bobby Joe Long & Wayne Williams),bite marks that can be matched up to suspects teeth, the infamous purchase trail (kelly buying lighter fluid on camera),
it could be a million different things and it's just down to the detectives and the med examiners office not to overlook those things
It's viewing the big picture..motive, relationship, victimology, etc
But as long as you have an experienced med examiner...forensic pathologist..he can see through cover-ups..albeit with perhaps some difficulty
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Yes, a seasoned person who takes pride in their "Job" will be able to look through
attempts at cover-ups. I was watching a show over the weekend about shody
work and how these blunders resulted in innocent people being sent to prison.
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yeah i agree..At the very least, they could have picked up a 50 gallon drum, filled it with Coca Cola and then buried the drum in the dessert...go back in a week and dump the the cola into the earth...I think i learned that in 7th grade science class...the teacher took a t-bone steak put coke in a pot and in 2 days it was gone...I guess Craig should have hung out with grade schoolers..
Yeah getting a 55 gallon drum (if he had one just laying around in the garage), digging a hole (provided they have shovels & picks handy,not to mention trying to dig while your F'ed up), putting the body in it & filling it with approx 25-30 gallons of Coca-Cola (50-60 or so 2 liter bottles, not to mention buying & transporting the girl,drum & the cola)& then burying it ,wouldn't have taken any time or effort at all. Why didn't they think of that. ::)
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A bomb attack along the strip made to look like terrorism would've helped too. Then no one would've noticed someone driving down the road with a huge 55 gallon drum.
The perfect crime? ;D
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Yeah getting a 55 gallon drum (if he had one just laying around in the garage), digging a hole (provided they have shovels & picks handy,not to mention trying to dig while your F'ed up), putting the body in it & filling it with approx 25-30 gallons of Coca-Cola (50-60 or so 2 liter bottles, not to mention buying & transporting the girl,drum & the cola)& then burying it ,wouldn't have taken any time or effort at all. Why didn't they think of that.
Maybe they don't drink soda.
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Diet cola I'm sure,but maybe Wombat knows if diet is as strong as regular.
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Appears that we have a good number of defective detectives coming up with pretty original ideas about this Titus situation, but I think that the defense is going to attempt to rip it all apart on technicalities of every sort including the large number of reasonable comments made on this Board.
I still say that a lot of us are going to be very pissed off with some of the "stuff" that is going to be brought to court in defense of the acused(s).
And even more pissed off when some of those sitting in the jury box start to believe it.
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The blood of the knifed victims was found inside the car that OJ drove, but he wasn't convicted of their murders in the criminal trial. He had something that Craig & Kelly don't, though: a race card. & the BB card they DO have will not work in their favor at the trial unless the jury is composed of hardcore gymrats, which is unlikely.
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The blood of the knifed victims was found inside the car that OJ drove, but he wasn't convicted of their murders in the criminal trial. He had something that Craig & Kelly don't, though: a race card. & the BB card they DO have will not work in their favor at the trial unless the jury is composed of hardcore gymrats, which is unlikely.
I think you left out the most important factor in OJ-1.5 million dollars in lawyer money.
Makes no difference if you don't have the race card to play or not-if you have 1.5 mil to spend you will get a good defense.
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Don't forget OJ's good fortune re: jury selection that the LA DA could've but didn't overturn, and one of the lamest prosecution efforts in recent memory.
They didn't even think to get OJ to try on the gloves beforehand to ensure that the gloves hadn't shrunk!
IF Craig can get this kind of ineptitude, they have a serious shot.
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The only way the OJ trial will have any relevance to Craig's trial is if the defense is able to fill the jury box with little wannabe bodybuilders from las vegas who think Craig is da shit and will vote him Not Guilty just so they can get his autograph, have him give them training tips, and reveal to them his secret pre contest diet!!
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Don't forget OJ's good fortune re: jury selection that the LA DA could've but didn't overturn, and one of the lamest prosecution efforts in recent memory.
They didn't even think to get OJ to try on the gloves beforehand to ensure that the gloves hadn't shrunk!
IF Craig can get this kind of ineptitude, they have a serious shot.
I would agree that the OJ case was the "Pefect Storm" for getting off....
1- Marcia Clark as prosecutor, who fucked up a slam dunk case any third year law school student could make.
2- A jury that distrusted the police-and with good reason. But, Clark could have removed many of the sypathetic jurors with perempatory challenges.
3- Lots of cash to buy the best defense lawyers.
4- Cant leave out Mark Furman-a huge factor considering he was caught perjuring himself on the stand.
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Yeah getting a 55 gallon drum (if he had one just laying around in the garage), digging a hole (provided they have shovels & picks handy,not to mention trying to dig while your F'ed up), putting the body in it & filling it with approx 25-30 gallons of Coca-Cola (50-60 or so 2 liter bottles, not to mention buying & transporting the girl,drum & the cola)& then burying it ,wouldn't have taken any time or effort at all. Why didn't they think of that. ::)
yeah i hear ya but your assuming that they would have to get rid of the body like within a few hours..They could have had their buddy dig the hole while Craig went to find a 50 gallon drum or screw it go steal someone metal trash barrel..All while Kelly went to 5-6 diff stores picking up many 2 liters at every store(paying cash:) )...I don't see that taking longer then a few hours...but they would have had days to do it if need be...But being F cked up im sure messed with their thinking...I would have thought the opposite would happen to a convicted felon like Craig who must have thought of so many different ways of transportting gear over the mexican border just years ago should have come up with something better then something so silly as what they did...But as they say meth can really fu k with your head...
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A bomb attack along the strip made to look like terrorism would've helped too. Then no one would've noticed someone driving down the road with a huge 55 gallon drum.
The perfect crime? ;D
lets see i bet it would take me no longer then 30 min to drive to a park any where around there and grab a metal trash barrel...Throw it in the back seat of a car at night or even in the back of a pickup...Its a trash barrel...People see them all the time..
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yeah i hear ya but your assuming that they would have to get rid of the body like within a few hours..They could have had their buddy dig the hole while Craig went to find a 50 gallon drum or screw it go steal someone metal trash barrel..All while Kelly went to 5-6 diff stores picking up many 2 liters at every store(paying cash:) )...I don't see that taking longer then a few hours...but they would have had days to do it if need be...But being F cked up im sure messed with their thinking...I would have thought the opposite would happen to a convicted felon like Craig who must have thought of so many different ways of transportting gear over the mexican border just years ago should have come up with something better then something so silly as what they did...But as they say meth can really fu k with your head...
meth creates false over confidence so when applied to narcissistic personality disorder some fcuked up shit can happen
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meth creates false over confidence so when applied to narcissistic personality disorder some fcuked up shit can happen
Boy, isn't that true. Meth either completely destroys a person with paranoia, or it destroys the opposite way - through uncontrolled, criminal megalomania. Some of the most outrageous offenses are commited by meth users.
As to the earlier comments about Marcia Clark: From what I understand, it's common knowledge in the L.A. legal scene that Marcia Clark was hopelessly addicted to coke when she was assigned to the O.J. case. Stories differ as to whether she'd stopped using for the case (thereby suffering withdrawl symptoms during crucial stages of the trial), attempted to stop using for the trial and/or kept using.
But whatever happened, a cocaine addiction certainly would explain her terrible organizational and researching skills when prosecuting this case - not to mention her insane, gabbling closing argument.
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Wouldn't explain the overall lapses & ineptitude of others, amateurs like Darden.
Apparently the DA chose the jurors as well as the relocation of the trial to a different demographic, not Clark.
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Clark as well as Darden had "Superiors", should have
given more guidance and direction to them. I am sure that this case will turn into a circus once
it makes court tv :o :o
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Yeah but if found Not Guilty, will Craig be willing to invite all the jurors over for a barbecue and sign autographs like OJ did?
Maybe if the jurors are female, under the age of 35, willing to do threesomes, willing to get freaky in the jacuzzi, willing to pay $750 bucks for the weekend, and buy a souvenir T-Shirt that says "Craig Swears he was Framed..Everybody is against him & Kelly".
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^LOL...I'm kinda surprised that this case hasn't taken a larger spotlight than it has.
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^LOL...I'm kinda surprised that this case hasn't taken a larger spotlight than it has.
i think barb-b-que is out of the question given the case circumstances
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Duhhhh...the overall dim-witted reasoning and logic processes displayed by Titus & Ryan in this particular murder case provide convincing support to the premise that long-term BB drug/'roid use progressively destroys the brain cells...like pot!!
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The only way the OJ trial will have any relevance to Craig's trial is if the defense is able to fill the jury box with little wannabe bodybuilders from las vegas who think Craig is da shit and will vote him Not Guilty just so they can get his autograph, have him give them training tips, and reveal to them his secret pre contest diet!!
hahaha ha ha snort ha ha haha ;D
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I would agree that the OJ case was the "Pefect Storm" for getting off....
4- Cant leave out Mark Furman-a huge factor considering he was caught perjuring himself on the stand.
And Furman's reputation as a racist...who had been taped admitting to having planted evidence, in some cases. Yea - let's put him on the stand, Marcia. :-\
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What's amazing to me is that Furman's been able to re-invent himself as a legal commentator on Fox and other channels, with no problem at all, apparently. Much the same way Oliver North has.
Obviously many people sympathize with his views without admitting it.
Craig will probably become a private training guru in jail with some followers/groupies, will accept payment and traffic in cigarettes, drugs, etc.
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And Furman's reputation as a racist...who had been taped admitting to having planted evidence, in some cases. Yea - let's put him on the stand, Marcia. :-\
;D....Marcia Clark, the bright lawyer she is put a liar on the stand-that is the 100% sure way to lose a case-get caught in a lie, on the stand, under oath. If that happens the case is over.....
Mark Furnman would have the lost the case on his own-without the sympathetic jurors-just for that whopper lie he told......."black", never used the word.....IDIOT!
And why does teh LAPD hire guys liek that?
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;D....Marcia Clark, the bright lawyer she is put a liar on the stand-that is the 100% sure way to lose a case-get caught in a lie, on the stand, under oath. If that happens the case is over.....
Mark Furnman would have the lost the case on his own-without the sympathetic jurors-just for that whopper lie he told......."Black", never used the word.....IDIOT!
And why does teh LAPD hire guys liek that?
YOU SEEM TO KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE LAW. HAVE YOU EVER TAUGHT GRADES K-12?
THE BEEF
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i've got some new infamation dats gonna throw a whole new spin on things innit. what if melissa killed herself, then drove her body to the dessert, and then lit herself on fire and jumped in the trunk! fink about it, i aint talkin bout a constapation theory like who killed J.R. these are my ideas dont nick em
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i've got some new infamation dats gonna throw a whole new spin on things innit. what if melissa killed herself, then drove her body to the dessert, and then lit herself on fire and jumped in the trunk! fink about it, i aint talkin bout a constapation theory like who killed J.R. these are my ideas dont nick em
you are a jackass
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"Just like, 'Oh my God, I can't believe what we just did,"
Looks like a freudian slip to me (It's no wonder she doesn't believe it if it's not what happened).
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They could of easily just left the body out in the desert somewhere. With all the wildlife in the desert and such they would have eaten it in no time. Plus with the heat, sand, and wind the bones probably would have been gone in no time too. Hell the easiet thing would have just thrown her into the lake.
according to ancient persian custom
the body is to be uncovered and left to the heat and wild animals
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Yeah but if found Not Guilty, will Craig be willing to invite all the jurors over for a barbecue and sign autographs like OJ did?
Maybe if the jurors are female, under the age of 35, willing to do threesomes, willing to get freaky in the jacuzzi, willing to pay $750 bucks for the weekend, and buy a souvenir T-Shirt that says "Craig Swears he was Framed..Everybody is against him & Kelly".
I don't know about all that but i did hear that he is looking for a venue as we speak for the Titus "after verdict" After Party...$40 for VIP and $60 at the door...All female Jurors enter free...
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If "Nancy" Grace isn't talking about it, then it isn't news
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<<meth creates false over confidence so when applied to narcissistic personality disorder some fcuked up shit can happen>>
No truer statement has been uttered and this is precisely the case here, in my opinion, Big DB
<<The BB card they DO have will not work in their favor at the trial unless the jury is composed of hardcore gymrats>>
That's just some funny shit, Mike
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Ah.......one thing.......... ???
Has anyone ever thought to try and PROVE the Theft Charge against Melissa?
Where are the withdrawls from the Bank?
Where is the money trail?
How much money are we talking about?
When did she "Steal the Credit Card?"
What purchases did she make?
How much money did she have in her bank account?
Please, Identity Theft requires alot of manuevers and she certainly did not Look like Kelly?
Did she have Kelly's ID?
Is there a document with Melissa forging Kelly's name?
This alibi stinks the same way Melissa has been portrade as a "Personal Assistant"
Anyone else on the board have a Live in Personal Assistant?
D you know of anyone with a Live in Personal Assistant?
Things that make you go, "Hmmmmmmmmmm..........?"
Peace,
S. Ray
Sounds like a case of malignant narcissism. "Everyone wants to be
me"...Me, me, ME!!! It appears, however, that not even Kelly
wanted to be Kelly, Shawn. My has she changed. Underwent a complete
personality re-structuring, too, I hear. Misfit and miscast, she
was also misled by greed, self-indulgence and xtreme ambition.
(Was the latter quality bred into her bones by that cruel camp for
contortionistic kidz she attended during her gymnastic years?
BB is often just as dehumanizing, dontcha think? After all, it's
not about "How are you?", it's about "How are your ABS?"
With your strength of character, Shawn, you succeeded in
demanding recognition for who you are.
It helps to have one of the world's best bods, and a reeeally
good mother, eh? I assure you, neither Kelly, Craig nor Mellisa,
had either. Young man, you have been very blessed. Keep up
the good work...and words.
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i've got some new infamation dats gonna throw a whole new spin on things innit. what if melissa killed herself, then drove her body to the dessert, and then lit herself on fire and jumped in the trunk! fink about it, i aint talkin bout a constapation theory like who killed J.R. these are my ideas dont nick em
Boo-ya-ka-sha, Ali G. Wish I'd a thot of that one. And maybe she
did it cuz she wuz sufferin' from "constapation"!
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^LOL...I'm kinda surprised that this case hasn't taken a larger spotlight than it has.
Spotlights prefer Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers, Don. But, months ago, I did get a call from the largest global press asking me to help determine whether organized crime had actually killed Melissa and, in the process, set Craig and Kelly for murder. After reading C & K's comments to detectives, and interviewing many who know them, I decided that the evidence would establish that they were most likely the LAST to see her, and only a twisted defense ("she OD'd, and we thought the taser would revive her") or a mistrial can possibly save them.
No, the global media won't send in their A-Team press because C & K are unsympathetic characters. They've been painted as drug dealers, sleazy sex-crazed bodybuilders. And the muscle media just wants this story to go away. Fast forward, please. Once the Barbie & Ken of fitness competitors, C & K now suddenly find themselves disowned, banned from their once-loving tribe. Next week's grand jury hearing will just bring more "bad publicity" to the physical culture. Their credibility gone, only the truth--the whole truth and
nothing but--can save what's left of these two wretched souls.
I hope this helps you.