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Title: Watches - info and discussion
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on February 07, 2021, 02:02:35 PM
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Post by: FitnessFrenzy on February 08, 2021, 03:23:01 AM
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Post by: FitnessFrenzy on February 09, 2021, 07:38:22 AM
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Post by: IroNat on February 09, 2021, 09:40:02 AM
Xfactor would love this thread.
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Post by: sync pulse on February 10, 2021, 09:52:31 AM
A wristwatch is the only jewelry most US men wear...therefore the fixation.
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Post by: FitnessFrenzy on April 09, 2021, 02:56:00 AM
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Post by: FitnessFrenzy on May 16, 2021, 07:48:29 AM
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Post by: FitnessFrenzy on May 29, 2021, 04:29:32 AM
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Post by: bhank on May 29, 2021, 06:58:52 PM
When I lived in NYC you could get high quality knock off of every high end Swiss mechanical watch like every brand every model for about 40-80 bucks in China Town
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Post by: Phantom Spunker on August 15, 2021, 03:15:06 AM
Even if I were rich, I seriously doubt I'd ever pay the crazy money that some of these things cost. I do really appreciate the aesthetics of them, but I can never be bothered to learn about the movements, brand history, and all that crap. I have a Seiko and a Tag Heuer, and eventually I'd like to get a Tudor Black Bay 58. One of my friends has a stunning Omega Seamaster, but it's too conspicuously tied to James Bond now. I'd feel silly wearing one.
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Post by: Sissysquats on August 15, 2021, 03:31:28 AM
I paid 600 bucks for my watch and it has the computing capabilities that exceed the Apollo space program.
Iphone
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Post by: Phantom Spunker on August 18, 2021, 03:23:32 AM
Oof ... the white dial Seamaster, though. I do love it. I want it.

(https://preview.redd.it/xhcyjskujsj51.jpg?auto=webp&s=6f38f50e18bda92b758f03713722cc8a1bde918c)
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Post by: bhank on September 14, 2021, 10:36:55 AM
Oof ... the white dial Seamaster, though. I do love it. I want it.

(https://preview.redd.it/xhcyjskujsj51.jpg?auto=webp&s=6f38f50e18bda92b758f03713722cc8a1bde918c)

That is nice
Title: Re: Watches - info and discussion
Post by: sync pulse on September 15, 2021, 03:41:52 PM
Oof ... the white dial Seamaster, though. I do love it. I want it.

(https://preview.redd.it/xhcyjskujsj51.jpg?auto=webp&s=6f38f50e18bda92b758f03713722cc8a1bde918c)

That is too large for this guy..."One size does not fit all"

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Post by: Phantom Spunker on September 16, 2021, 09:25:23 PM
That is too large for this guy..."One size does not fit all"



Yeah, I have the same problem with the one I'm wearing now. I noticed in photographs recently it's just too big for my wrist. Looking to get something more subtle than my dive watches after Christmas.
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Post by: Phantom Spunker on July 15, 2023, 01:29:49 AM
Even if I were rich, I seriously doubt I'd ever pay the crazy money that some of these things cost. I do really appreciate the aesthetics of them, but I can never be bothered to learn about the movements, brand history, and all that crap. I have a Seiko and a Tag Heuer, and eventually I'd like to get a Tudor Black Bay 58. One of my friends has a stunning Omega Seamaster, but it's too conspicuously tied to James Bond now. I'd feel silly wearing one.

My mind has now changed and I'm strongly considering getting a black Seamaster on a rubber strap. They just look fantastic. But I have very gay, small wrists and it might look ridiculous.

(https://cdn.watchcharts.com/listings/5a1a09f2-416f-4168-bd47-30f053847793.jpg?d=300x300)
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Post by: FitnessFrenzy on July 18, 2023, 06:28:19 AM
(https://static.fratello.com/2022/10/Screenshot-2022-10-17-at-13.40.35.png)
Title: Re: Watches - info and discussion
Post by: sync pulse on July 18, 2023, 07:56:40 PM

You don't buy a watch with the idea of making a buck...You buy it because you like it...

For me I needed quartz accuracy, not the tic tic tic.
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Post by: Phantom Spunker on July 19, 2023, 02:46:25 AM
My good friend does both. He has a passion for watches but he also buys pieces to invest in occasionally. He's very wealthy these days, so I guess he can afford to play around and take small risks. I blame him for making me become interested in them. When I tried on his Submariner, it suddenly all made sense. His latest purchase, a rare Rolex, will apparently soon sell for around $15,000 more than what he paid for it.

If I didn't have to part with the cash, this would be amazing to wear:

(https://mrwatchley.com/cdn/shop/products/mrWatchley-S40-213_800x.jpg?v=1621838441)
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Post by: deadz on July 19, 2023, 02:38:01 PM
A watch would detract from my chiseled arms, fuck that!
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Post by: mops on July 19, 2023, 06:57:01 PM
My mind has now changed and I'm strongly considering getting a black Seamaster on a rubber strap. They just look fantastic. But I have very gay, small wrists and it might look ridiculous.

(https://cdn.watchcharts.com/listings/5a1a09f2-416f-4168-bd47-30f053847793.jpg?d=300x300)

You should be fine.

Watches with a bezel have a smaller hour marker circle ( an imaginary circle measured from one tip of an hour marker on the dial to the tip of the opposite hour marker. )

(https://i.postimg.cc/BnqPh9Vp/hour-markers-circle-size.jpg)



A 40mm watch with a bezel will always look smaller than a 40mm watch with no bezel.

Here's an example : Orient Ray 2 ( case size : 41.5mm ) vs. Seiko SRPB41 ( 40,5mm )

(https://i.postimg.cc/XqvFqvKt/orient-ray-2-vs-seiko-srpb41.jpg)





If you are really self-conscious about your wrist size, you can always opt for an Omega Seamaster Professional 300m Mid Size ( 36,2mm ) instead of the more traditional 42mm model ( swapping the metal band for an Omega black rubber strap is very easy.)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Bv1Fk64C/20230720-034517.jpg)



Edit : the reviewer's wrists in the video are 6.29" ( 16 cm ) in circumference


Title: Re: Watches - info and discussion
Post by: Phantom Spunker on July 20, 2023, 01:15:16 AM
You should be fine.

Watches with a bezel have a smaller hour marker circle ( an imaginary circle measured from one tip of an hour marker on the dial to the tip of the opposite hour marker. )

(https://i.postimg.cc/BnqPh9Vp/hour-markers-circle-size.jpg)



A 40mm watch with a bezel will always look smaller than a 40mm watch with no bezel.

Here's an example : Orient Ray 2 ( case size : 41.5mm ) vs. Seiko SRPB41 ( 40,5mm )

(https://i.postimg.cc/XqvFqvKt/orient-ray-2-vs-seiko-srpb41.jpg)





If you are really self-conscious about your wrist size, you can always opt for an Omega Seamaster Professional 300m Mid Size ( 36,2mm ) instead of the more traditional 42mm model ( swapping the metal band for an Omega black rubber strap is very easy.)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Bv1Fk64C/20230720-034517.jpg)



Edit : the reviewer's wrists in the video are 6.29" ( 16 cm ) in circumference



Good stuff, Mops. Thanks. Yeah, it shouldn't be too bad. My wrists must be about the same as the reviewer's. My Seiko looks absolutely fine on them and that's a 42mm, I think. The rubber would slim it down quite a bit, too.

I also really like the look of this little thing and think it would be a pretty unique option to go with (if a good one is even available now). I like the little nod to various professions it gives, and I've never seen anyone with one. Weird or cool?

(https://d2dsc1gf0t80gb.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/21102145/this-is-why-omega-s-quirky-chronostop-is-great-for-drivers-1476934336281.jpg)
Title: Re: Watches - info and discussion
Post by: mops on July 20, 2023, 10:01:12 AM

I also really like the look of this little thing and think it would be a pretty unique option to go with (if a good one is even available now). I like the little nod to various professions it gives, and I've never seen anyone with one. Weird or cool?

(https://d2dsc1gf0t80gb.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/21102145/this-is-why-omega-s-quirky-chronostop-is-great-for-drivers-1476934336281.jpg)

That's a very, very cool vintage timepiece, Phantom.
Omega chronostop Driver ( 35mm ) on a mesh bracelet. A watch "designed" to be worn upside down whilst driving.

I believe Omega produced them in the mid 60s, yes ?

(https://i.postimg.cc/QxtGRsHM/chronoad1.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Watches - info and discussion
Post by: Phantom Spunker on July 20, 2023, 02:47:30 PM
That's a very, very cool vintage timepiece, Phantom.
Omega chronostop Driver ( 35mm ) on a mesh bracelet. A watch "designed" to be worn upside down whilst driving.

I believe Omega produced them in the mid 60s, yes ?

(https://i.postimg.cc/QxtGRsHM/chronoad1.jpg)

Glad you think so too. Yeah, 1966, I think I read. The mesh bracelet works perfectly with it; perfect size watch for wearing under shirt cuffs too. I think I might have to add it to my wishlist.
Title: Re: Watches - info and discussion
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 28, 2023, 12:44:30 AM
I own 2 watches of any value. a 1990's Rolex Submariner date as my daily, and a Citizen solar powered for travel abroad. A few others that are likely under $40 each to match particular occasions. My questions are, when did you start collecting watches, what do you look for? What would be the watch you would love to have if price was no problem?
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Post by: Phantom Spunker on July 28, 2023, 12:35:56 PM
I own 2 watches of any value. a 1990's Rolex Submariner date as my daily, and a Citizen solar powered for travel abroad. A few others that are likely under $40 each to match particular occasions. My questions are, when did you start collecting watches, what do you look for? What would be the watch you would love to have if price was no problem?

For me, I always had cheap watches that could take a beating. It's only fairly recently that I've really paid any attention to collecting them as a hobby. I used to dive a little, and I find myself drawn more to tool watches, but I also love the aesthetics of a nice dress watch.

I'd love the 18ct yellow gold Submariner with blue dial if money weren't an option. It's flashy but it would be nice to wear for special occasions. A GMT would actually be quite useful for me these days, though.

My father's best friend was one of the old-school saturation divers involved in some of the early tests that Rolex carried out. He had an original Rolex Comex watch that he eventually sold for peanuts a long time ago. He found out more recently what it would be worth these days and was absolutely raging, lol.

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Post by: Agnostic007 on July 28, 2023, 08:29:44 PM
For me, I always had cheap watches that could take a beating. It's only fairly recently that I've really paid any attention to collecting them as a hobby. I used to dive a little, and I find myself drawn more to tool watches, but I also love the aesthetics of a nice dress watch.

I'd love the 18ct yellow gold Submariner with blue dial if money weren't an option. It's flashy but it would be nice to wear for special occasions. A GMT would actually be quite useful for me these days, though.

My father's best friend was one of the old-school saturation divers involved in some of the early tests that Rolex carried out. He had an original Rolex Comex watch that he eventually sold for peanuts a long time ago. He found out more recently what it would be worth these days and was absolutely raging, lol.

I can only imagine...

I'll likely pass this Rolex on to my son.... it just fits so many occasions. I live on the water in Florida and always in a pool or the ocean, as you know, that has no ill effects on the Submariner. Plus, it's accepted in almost every social circle when socializing. It's not ultra fancy but it carries a pedigree. I wear it playing poker and get some comments. One young guy tried to tell me it was a fake. He was certain of it. But his knowledge didn't encompass the fact mine was purchased in 1998 and he's only seen the newer ones that are 41mm.

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Post by: mops on July 28, 2023, 10:06:23 PM
I can only imagine...

I'll likely pass this Rolex on to my son.... it just fits so many occasions. I live on the water in Florida and always in a pool or the ocean, as you know, that has no ill effects on the Submariner. Plus, it's accepted in almost every social circle when socializing. It's not ultra fancy but it carries a pedigree. I wear it playing poker and get some comments. One young guy tried to tell me it was a fake. He was certain of it. But his knowledge didn't encompass the fact mine was purchased in 1998 and he's only seen the newer ones that are 41mm.

Pre-ceramic submariners and GMTs are the best. They look like tool watches, and as the saying goes, use your tools, don't baby them.

The late 2000s introduction of the ceramic bezel marked a turning point for the brand.  Since then, Rolex has trended towards a sleeker, more polished look which I personally dislike.

Additionally, the unethical and outright despicable practices of Rolex Authorized Dealers pushed me further away from this brand.
Title: Re: Watches - info and discussion
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 06, 2023, 12:51:20 AM
(https://static.fratello.com/2022/10/Screenshot-2022-10-17-at-13.40.35.png)
Title: Re: Watches - info and discussion
Post by: mops on August 06, 2023, 09:48:33 AM
(https://static.fratello.com/2022/10/Screenshot-2022-10-17-at-13.40.35.png)

Pre-owned market isn't doing great either

Bloomberg's Subdial 50 index.

This index is made up of the 50 most traded models on the pre-owned market. Together, they account for over 20% of total spend globally.

Calculations take into account the latest market price of each of the 50 models as well as their relative weighting based on sales value.


(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5bPQYCj/Screenshot-20230806-182112.jpg)


the 50 models in question :

(https://i.postimg.cc/dVf79Jdh/Screenshot-20230806-182150.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/cJ8v9PMX/Screenshot-20230806-182213.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Fz0qTF7N/Screenshot-20230806-182232.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/RVz2NtDF/Screenshot-20230806-182254.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/g0rTfHnM/Screenshot-20230806-182319.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gjbtL945/Screenshot-20230806-182337.jpg)


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Post by: Agnostic007 on August 06, 2023, 09:21:51 PM
Pre-owned market isn't doing great either

Bloomberg's Subdial 50 index.

This index is made up of the 50 most traded models on the pre-owned market. Together, they account for over 20% of total spend globally.

Calculations take into account the latest market price of each of the 50 models as well as their relative weighting based on sales value.


(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5bPQYCj/Screenshot-20230806-182112.jpg)


the 50 models in question :

(https://i.postimg.cc/dVf79Jdh/Screenshot-20230806-182150.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/cJ8v9PMX/Screenshot-20230806-182213.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Fz0qTF7N/Screenshot-20230806-182232.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/RVz2NtDF/Screenshot-20230806-182254.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/g0rTfHnM/Screenshot-20230806-182319.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gjbtL945/Screenshot-20230806-182337.jpg)

If I read that right, my Rolex Submariner date is worth about $9K. Cool...
Title: Re: Watches - info and discussion
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 06, 2023, 09:24:09 PM
Pre-ceramic submariners and GMTs are the best. They look like tool watches, and as the saying goes, use your tools, don't baby them.

The late 2000s introduction of the ceramic bezel marked a turning point for the brand.  Since then, Rolex has trended towards a sleeker, more polished look which I personally dislike.

Additionally, the unethical and outright despicable practices of Rolex Authorized Dealers pushed me further away from this brand.

Do you mean asking $700+ for a service?
Title: Re: Watches - info and discussion
Post by: mops on August 07, 2023, 09:28:19 AM
Do you mean asking $700+ for a service?


Authorized Dealers have been playing dirty games for a long time now. Gamea of BS, snobery and market manipulation.

They simply refuse to sell watches to customers under the false pretext that the supply they get is very limited.

They will require you to visit one of their "showrooms" and personally make a registration of demand list against a "high demand" Rolex model.

If you have the right "profile" , buy other luxury items from them, buy their overpriced in-house insurance policies and, generaly speaking, kiss the sales clerk's behind, you will "increase" your chance to receive "the call" sooner rather than later.

It can take from several months to a year+ depending on the model.

Interestingly, the flippers never seems to have any problem purchasing 5 submariners from them every year. ::)

It is also a well known fact that they discreetly sell their production to the grey market at a premium. The watches are then sold to customers at RRP x2-x5 ( RRP = Recommended Retail Price)

At their showrooms, they always try to convince you their models are hard to get and what you are seing are exhibition models only. Yet, the gray market is literally flooded with them.

Rolex has also been complicit in hiding the stolen details of their watches. They aren't always returning stolen watches to their rightful owners....
Title: Re: Watches - info and discussion
Post by: Phantom Spunker on August 08, 2023, 03:11:40 AM
I met up with one of my mates the other day to catch up. He's not really a watch guy but he had a nice Rolex on, and he confessed to basically being peer-pressured into buying it, haha. One of our more 'flash' mutual friends that he works with persuaded him to come to the Rolex dealership with him and put his name down on some waiting list. He was told that he'd likely be waiting around a year. 'Great', he thought. 'That gives me loads of time and I can get out of it'. About two weeks later they rung him up, informing him of how lucky he was that the particular model he liked was now in and he could come and collect it.

Wearing the Seamaster now on its SS bracelet. I must confess, I really don't like the feel of it. I'm used to a NATO, so it feels very bulky and just seems to get in my way. Needs another link taken out, I think. It is big but not comically so.