Thanks for replying, bast. I've been trying to do *real* cardio 5 days a week, about 20 minutes after my workout after popping some BCAA tabs. I usually get my heart rate up to 85% max for at least 12 mins, sometimes as many as 18 or so. Here's the deal with cardio though. Being a college student, i walk EVERYWHERE with a 35-lb backpack on my back. On an average day, i walk 4 miles, not counting the cardio i do in the gym, or other daily activity levels. I find that my gym cardio is not really necessary or even possible. I am totally zonked by my lifts (i have upped the intensity big time to avoid losing muscle). I lift 6 days a week cause i love hitting the iron and i have some body parts that IMO are lagging a bit. So i don't think upping the cardio is a solution. I think i may have to go on a little mini-bulk to get my test and and metabolism back on track. Just for a few weeks or so. I'll be going to england soon to work, at which point i'll have to totally re-evaluate everything....so at that point i'll probably start cutting again. Long winded, i know, and i probably could've PM'd you, but thanks for the feedback.