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New policy requires on-field players, personnel to stand for anthem
TLANTA -- NFL owners have unanimously approved a new national anthem policy that requires players to stand if they are on the field during the performance but gives them the option to remain in the locker room if they prefer, it was announced Wednesday.
The policy subjects teams to a fine if a player or any other team personnel do not show respect for the anthem. That includes any attempt to sit or kneel, as dozens of players have done during the past two seasons. Those teams will also have the option to fine any team personnel, including players, for the infraction.
"We want people to be respectful of the national anthem," commissioner Roger Goodell said. "We want people to stand -- that's all personnel -- and make sure they treat this moment in a respectful fashion. That's something we think we owe. [But] we were also very sensitive to give players choices."
All 32 owners approved the policy, which will be part of the NFL's game operations manual and thus not subject to collective bargaining. The NFL Players Association said in a statement that it will review the policy and "challenge any aspect" that is inconsistent with the CBA.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23582533/nfl-owners-approve-new-national-anthem-policy
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What’re the ridiculous/delusional dindus (and chocolate sympathizers) gonna do now?
How are they going to affect change?
:o
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hardly a ban.
owners will just pay the fine instead of being seen as unsympathetic(depending on fan demographic), or players will just wait in the tunnel\locker room till after the national anthem
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hardly a ban.
owners will just pay the fine instead of being seen as unsympathetic(depending on fan demographic), or players will just wait in the tunnel\locker room till after the national anthem
No they won't...
http://jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/nfl-owners-to-make-history/
And there will be no Jewish players in Super Bowl LII, nor Jewish coaches on the sidelines.
So where’s the Jewish rooting interest in the game between the Patriots and the Philadelphia Eagles?
In the owners’ boxes.
For the third time since 2012, both teams vying for the NFL championship have Jewish owners — the Patriots’ Robert Kraft and the Eagles’ Jeffrey Lurie.
And for the third time in history, two Super Bowl teams with Jewish owners are playing in a stadium whose home team also has a Jewish owner — Zygi Wilf of the Minnesota Vikings.
Besides being an ethnic curiosity, the ubiquity of Jewish owners during the 2018 Super Bowl is a symbol of the growth in the number of affluent Jews in NFL ownership ranks, which is another signpost along the road of Jewish assimilation into U.S. sporting culture.
Sarna pointed out that many of the Jewish NFL owners are not just Jewish genealogically, but identified Jews who are generous contributors to Jewish and Israeli causes.
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I'm for freedom of expression so I don't support a ban. Also, I'd rather be able to see for myself who respects the flag and who doesn't.
The NFL is full of America hating, racist, entitled, unappreciative black men. I think letting people see that is important.
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There are rules in every area of employment or company, you don't follow them, you get spanked.
Glad to see the ban...
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The NFL (Goodell) only did this (a year later) because it hurt their revenue. Fuck that clown!
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The NFL (Goodell) only did this (a year later) because it hurt their revenue. Fuck that clown!
revenue in 2018 was up from the previous year by almost billion, theyre not hurting
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The NFL (Goodell) only did this (a year later) because it hurt their revenue. Fuck that clown!
Exactly
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revenue in 2018 was up from the previous year by almost billion, theyre not hurting
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/6/nfl-ratings-down-due-anthem-protests-survey/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2017/11/03/nfl-anthem-protests-smack-leagues-broadcasters-and-sponsors/#68fcca4749ab
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/6/nfl-ratings-down-due-anthem-protests-survey/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2017/11/03/nfl-anthem-protests-smack-leagues-broadcasters-and-sponsors/#68fcca4749ab
That is TV ratings not revenue. Revenue goes up every year in the NFL. The reason that TV ratings are going down is because more people are streaming. Last season for example the NFL ticket was cancelled in Canada as DAZN bought out the contract.
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/193457/total-league-revenue-of-the-nfl-since-2005/
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/6/nfl-ratings-down-due-anthem-protests-survey/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2017/11/03/nfl-anthem-protests-smack-leagues-broadcasters-and-sponsors/#68fcca4749ab
ratings and revenue aren't the same thing. You understand that right?
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Trump was right... again & as usual.
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Insincere public relations damage control.
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revenue in 2018 was up from the previous year by almost billion, theyre not hurting
I haven’t seen any hard numbers from the 2017 season other than the large decrease in ratings. The NFL is locked into their TV deals, so you won’t see an abrupt decrease in revenue in the near future, but it could come. This is obviously a desperation move because he knows what this means in the future. One would be a fool to not see the correlation between viewership and revenue. The ratings for the 2017 regular season were down nearly 10%. That’s a large number. The ones that are currently hurting from the NFL are the networks. Next comes the NFL unless the man that has continued to ruin some of the best things about the game can save it.
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People hated that they allowed it to happen in the first place.
Trump wins this one...no two ways about it.
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Too little. Too late. Fuck the NFL.
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People hated that they allowed it to happen in the first place.
Trump wins this one...no two ways about it.
How does Trump win? Lol
The NFL is allowing them to still disrespect the Anthem from the locker room instead of on the field.
Hell, staying inside the locker room may be even more disrespectful than kneeling.
Imagine not one player out on the field during the Anthem? That, in my opinion,is worse than kneeling because they are not even in the public space while it’s being played.
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How does Trump win? Lol
The NFL is allowing them to still disrespect the Anthem from the locker room instead of on the field.
Hell, staying inside the locker room may be even more disrespectful than kneeling.
Imagine not one player out on the field during the Anthem? That, in my opinion,is worse than kneeling because they are not even in the public space while it’s being played.
GTFOH! That's like nurses going in the restrooms at hospitals and venting about pay vs. going on strike. Fucking kneeling in your locker to a blank wall is more impactful. GTFOH!
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How does Trump win? Lol
The NFL is allowing them to still disrespect the Anthem from the locker room instead of on the field.
Hell, staying inside the locker room may be even more disrespectful than kneeling.
Imagine not one player out on the field during the Anthem? That, in my opinion,is worse than kneeling because they are not even in the public space while it’s being played.
Seems you have a mental block about Trump. He has a knack for, even being a billionaire...coming down on the side of the average American. He understands his base and the value of a majority of public opinion.
So...as the news was making fun of him for calling them kneeling sons of bitches, calling him racist etc......he won in the end.
I'm fine with them protesting in the locker room but it isn't their fault that they do it there or on the field....it was the owner's fault from the beginning. You get paid millions of dollars there are rules and that shitshow that they put on was not part of the money making machine that is the NFL. Should have never happened.
You want to be a professional protestor that's fine..you'll be unemployed like Kap. Nobody wants to see it and it took the NFL a couple years to figure out they were getting the wrong kind of publicity. Just business.
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ratings and revenue aren't the same thing. You understand that right?
He doesn’t understand that. He posted the link thinking lower ratings translated to lower revenues. Coach check out the teams values.
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GTFOH! That's like nurses going in the restrooms at hospitals and venting about pay vs. going on strike. Fucking kneeling in your locker to a blank wall is more impactful. GTFOH!
Meltdown.
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Why do people care so much about this issue? ???
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Seems you have a mental block about Trump. He has a knack for, even being a billionaire...coming down on the side of the average American. He understands his base and the value of a majority of public opinion.
So...as the news was making fun of him for calling them kneeling sons of bitches, calling him racist etc......he won in the end.
I'm fine with them protesting in the locker room but it isn't their fault that they do it there or on the field....it was the owner's fault from the beginning. You get paid millions of dollars there are rules and that shitshow that they put on was not part of the money making machine that is the NFL. Should have never happened.
kind of a petty thing for the president of the united states to be involved in... as usual he grandstands on something that should be a non issue..... players were protesting the treatment of blacks being mistreated by law enforcement . but trump made it about disrespecting the flag and country..but one thing for sure he is winning... :D
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As far as Jets Chairman Christopher Johnson is concerned, though, his players can essentially do whatever their consciences tell them without any “repercussions” from his team. If the league wants to impose fines, Johnson said, he’ll pay them himself, all the better to support players who are “on the front lines” of “some big, complicated issues that we’re all struggling with.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/05/24/jets-chairman-no-repercussions-for-my-players-if-they-protest-during-anthem/
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I have always felt the owners should do whatever they want about this issue (freedom of speech does not apply within a private employer/employee setting). But does this really solve anything? Won’t the fans who care a lot about this issue be just as upset at players who stay in the locker room and then run out on to the field right after the anthem is over with. Or will the owners ask for a commercial TV break so those players can SNEAK out on to the field? Seems like cosmetics more than anything.
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I have always felt the owners should do whatever they want about this issue (freedom of speech does not apply within a private employer/employee setting). But does this really solve anything? Won’t the fans who care a lot about this issue be just as upset at players who stay in the locker room and then run out on to the field right after the anthem is over with. Or will the owners ask for a commercial TV break so those players can SNEAK out on to the field? Seems like cosmetics more than anything.
that's how it always way, prior to 2009 players where in the locker room for the evening games during the national anthem, they snuck onto the field during commercial breaks
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that's how it always way, prior to 2009 players where in the locker room for the evening games during the national anthem, they snuck onto the field during commercial breaks
I am sure there are certain fans who will “take attendance.” And I guess those protesting will appreciate attendance being taken because they are now less visible. Oh well.
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Woody Johnson's brother (who is running the day-to-day operations for the NY Jets since Woody is in London as an ambassador for the Trump administration) broke ranks in a way by first voting 'yay' for this and then making a statement that he will pay the league fine for any of his players who protest on the field, as well as no team fines for protesting. Complete pussy move IMO and the fact that the franchise is a complete and total failure is a little bit of relief for folks like myself who boycotted last year.
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Woody Johnson's brother (who is running the day-to-day operations for the NY Jets since Woody is in London as an ambassador for the Trump administration) broke ranks in a way by first voting 'yay' for this and then making a statement that he will pay the league fine for any of his players who protest on the field, as well as no team fines for protesting. Complete pussy move IMO and the fact that the franchise is a complete and total failure is a little bit of relief for folks like myself who boycotted last year.
how does this give you relief... if you are a true fan of the sport...who exactly does this punish... no disrespect intended but i don't get this.... what does sport have to do with politics.....of course maybe trump threw some cash into the xfl which is thinking of reforming...politics for profit once more..
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Wow, if Bodybuilding banned Kneeling, every bodybuilder would be broke and homeless! ;D
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Wow, if Bodybuilding banned Kneeling, every bodybuilder would be broke and homeless! ;D
This reminds me when the moon pose was banned. The schmoes were up in arms that day
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Would be great if the nfl just dissolved.
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He doesn’t understand that. He posted the link thinking lower ratings translated to lower revenues. Coach check out the teams values.
TV stations lost over $600 million on NFL last year. Lower ratings will equal lower revenue directly to the NFL eventually as they are not going to pay as much to the nfl for rights, etc.
Probably not the smartest to continue with a model that is decreasing ratings. Don't really think this is going to help, though. Should have just made them stand and got it over with.
Anyone here what moron Steve Kerr said? Criticized the NFL for this new policy and silencing players, etc. Nobody called him out that the NBA already made it mandatory to stand, etc. and no peep fro him on that.
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how does this give you relief... if you are a true fan of the sport...who exactly does this punish... no disrespect intended but i don't get this.... what does sport have to do with politics.....of course maybe trump threw some cash into the xfl which is thinking of reforming...politics for profit once more..
The kneelers are the ones who mixed politics into this situation & President Trump had the balls to give them shit for it. The NFL tried to appease these protesters by throwing millions of dollars at 'social justice programs,' which is pretty obvious what they and who they are trying to appease.
But that wasn't good enough for the supporters of Kaepernick & Eric Reid, the two poster boys for the protest.
So the owners (31 of them with the SF owner abstaining his vote) unanimously voted for this new rule and Goodell for once showed he possesses testicles and brought this to the table.
It has to do with the bottom line - the almighty dollar. The league took a big hit last year in the pocket book and PR-wise due to this shit and they could not sustain at the level they have become used to unless making a change.
Personally, I am still on the fence if I will watch or not. This 'rule' is a good start but if many players decide to stay in the locker room or do the Black Panther raised fist, this is still going to be a huge issue and the boycotts will continue. They worked or else this rule would never have been implemented.
I am a true fan of the sport but not the NFL at this time. And the XFL is officially returning in 2020 and Trump has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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The kneelers are the ones who mixed politics into this situation & President Trump had the balls to give them shit for it. The NFL tried to appease these protesters by throwing millions of dollars at 'social justice programs,' which is pretty obvious what they and who they are trying to appease.
But that wasn't good enough for the supporters of Kaepernick & Eric Reid, the two poster boys for the protest.
So the owners (31 of them with the SF owner abstaining his vote) unanimously voted for this new rule and Goodell for once showed he possesses testicles and brought this to the table.
It has to do with the bottom line - the almighty dollar. The league took a big hit last year in the pocket book and PR-wise due to this shit and they could not sustain at the level they have become used to unless making a change.
Personally, I am still on the fence if I will watch or not. This 'rule' is a good start but if many players decide to stay in the locker room or do the Black Panther raised fist, this is still going to be a huge issue and the boycotts will continue. They worked or else this rule would never have been implemented.
I am a true fan of the sport but not the NFL at this time. And the XFL is officially returning in 2020 and Trump has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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The kneelers are the ones who mixed politics into this situation & President Trump had the balls to give them shit for it. The NFL tried to appease these protesters by throwing millions of dollars at 'social justice programs,' which is pretty obvious what they and who they are trying to appease.
But that wasn't good enough for the supporters of Kaepernick & Eric Reid, the two poster boys for the protest.
So the owners (31 of them with the SF owner abstaining his vote) unanimously voted for this new rule and Goodell for once showed he possesses testicles and brought this to the table.
It has to do with the bottom line - the almighty dollar. The league took a big hit last year in the pocket book and PR-wise due to this shit and they could not sustain at the level they have become used to unless making a change.
Personally, I am still on the fence if I will watch or not. This 'rule' is a good start but if many players decide to stay in the locker room or do the Black Panther raised fist, this is still going to be a huge issue and the boycotts will continue. They worked or else this rule would never have been implemented.
I am a true fan of the sport but not the NFL at this time. And the XFL is officially returning in 2020 and Trump has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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what is actually wrong with geneflecting to the national anthem?
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