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Title: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 09, 2021, 06:26:47 AM
and 8 actually dealing with bodybuilding. BDS is now a thing on getbig. Biden 24/7/365.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 09, 2021, 07:14:01 AM
 ;D now it's got 9
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 09, 2021, 11:08:25 AM
Total BDS, the comedy gold is just too much to ignore.  :P
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 09, 2021, 07:57:47 PM
Posting about posting because you can't start another TDS thread in 2020.

Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 10, 2021, 10:16:52 AM
Posting about posting because you can't start another TDS thread in 2020.
    28 out of the 29 threads are by the same two posters, they really seem to be rather obsessed with president joe Biden.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 11, 2021, 02:14:07 AM
Joe couldnt change his own diaper. WWE HoF'er DJT would thrash the king of Libtards.
Causing many more tears for the crying libs and their baloney tit offspring.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Royalty on May 11, 2021, 03:24:42 AM
this event was a worldwide embarrassment.

Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: rocket on May 11, 2021, 03:34:38 AM
Not that I particularly give a shit about thongian combat on the pageant stage but I have almost completely stopped reading this board because of the level of politics that has infected gb over the last few years.

Every time I look it it, it's the same bullshit.  A fucking tiresome shouting match of right vs left rhetoric, with very few people really interested in any way, shape or form in giving an inch.

Not that there isn't reason to have a heightened interest in politics thesedays - but who the fuck wants to waste their spare time "debating" that shit?  Sad c.u.nts   

I'd rather be jerking off and watching Goodrum house tours (maybe at the same time).  Now that is what I call living.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Royalty on May 11, 2021, 04:16:36 AM
Not that I particularly give a shit about thongian combat on the pageant stage but I have almost completely stopped reading this board because of the level of politics that has infected gb over the last few years.

Every time I look it it, it's the same bullshit.  A fucking tiresome shouting match of right vs left rhetoric, with very few people really interested in any way, shape or form in giving an inch.

Not that there isn't reason to have a heightened interest in politics thesedays - but who the fuck wants to waste their spare time "debating" that shit?  Sad c.u.nts   

I'd rather be jerking off and watching Goodrum house tours (maybe at the same time).  Now that is what I call living.


After typing all of that, you officially wasted more time than everyone combined
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Henda on May 11, 2021, 04:40:46 AM
this event was a worldwide embarrassment.



The whole things a fucking worldwide embarrassment, confirmed pedo, appointing trannys and nigs, flock of migrant shit waiting at the border to flood in ect ect and idiots like funk and pedomuscle are still queuing up to suck his wrinkled old pecker
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: rocket on May 11, 2021, 05:58:57 AM
After typing all of that, you officially wasted more time than everyone combined

I'm going to try to jerk off at the thought of you giggling with delight at manifesting such an original zinger.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 11, 2021, 07:22:00 AM
What I like is that most flags last years - you can get almost any flag and hang it outside for a year or two before it starts to fray. Trump flags last less than half that, because they're crappy, cheaply-made products, just like everything associated with that guy. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 11, 2021, 07:27:21 AM
BDS in full effect. 

Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 11, 2021, 07:35:49 AM
What I like is that most flags last years - you can get almost any flag and hang it outside for a year or two before it starts to fray. Trump flags last less than half that, because they're crappy, cheaply-made products, just like everything associated with that guy. ::) ::) ::)

Made in China (like China Joe the kid-raper).
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 11, 2021, 07:40:32 AM
Made in China (like China Joe the kid-raper).
    A Running List Of The Women Who’ve Accused Donald Trump Of Sexual Misconduct
All their stories in one place.
By Catherine Pearson, Emma Gray, and Alanna Vagianos

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On Oct. 8, 2016, The Washington Post published footage from 2005 of serial misogynist Donald Trump bragging that as a famous man, he can get away with anything. Like kissing women without waiting for permission. And grabbing women by the pussy. Trump has defended these comments, repeatedly, as “locker room talk.” When pressed by Anderson Cooper during the second presidential debate, he said that he absolutely had not sexually assaulted women.

But since Trump’s remarks emerged ― and well before then ― numerous women have shared their allegations of sexual abuse against the Republican presidential nominee.


Trump and his administration have repeatedly denied all of the accusations, tweeting that women he didn’t know were making “false accusations.” In October 2017, then-White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders suggested that all of Trump’s accusers were lying.

Below is a running list of women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct. These alleged incidents span more than three decades, from the early 1980s to 2016, and are presented here in order based on the date they became public.

*  *  *

1. Amy Dorris
Her account: Dorris, a former model, told The Guardian that Trump forcibly kissed and groped her at the U.S. Open in New York on Sept. 5, 1997. Dorris was 24 at the time and lived in Boca Raton, Florida, but was visiting her then-boyfriend Jason Binn, the founder of several luxury lifestyle magazines who was close friends with Trump. Dorris and Binn joined Trump in his private box at the U.S. Open. Dorris alleged that Trump assaulted her when she went to the bathroom. 


“He just shoved his tongue down my throat and I was pushing him off,” she said. “And then that’s when his grip became tighter and his hands were very gropey and all over my butt, my breasts, my back, everything.”

Trump’s response: Trump denied the accusation via his lawyers in a statement to The Guardian.

When we found out: Sept. 17, 2020

When she says it happened: Sept. 5, 1997

*  *  *

2. Karen Johnson
Her account: Johnson alleged that Trump grabbed her vagina without her consent and forcibly kissed her at a New Year’s Eve party at Mar-a-Lago in the early 2000s. The allegation was first revealed in journalists Barry Levine and Monique El-Faizy’s book, “All the President’s Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator,” excerpted by Esquire.

“When he says that thing, ‘Grab them in the pussy,’ that hits me hard because when he grabbed me and pulled me into the tapestry, that’s where he grabbed me ― he grabbed me there in my front and pulled me in,” Johnson told Levine and El-Faizy.

Trump’s response: N/A

When we found out: Oct. 9, 2019

When she says it happened: Early 2000s

*  *  *

3. E. Jean Carroll
Her account: In an excerpt of her memoir published in New York magazine, Carroll, a longtime Elle magazine advice columnist, alleged that Trump raped her in a department store dressing room in the mid-1990s.

The then-real estate mogul spotted Carroll, then 52, at Bergdorf Goodman. Recognizing her as “that advice lady,” he asked if she would help him buy a gift for an unnamed woman. Carroll agreed, and after browsing gifts, Trump allegedly led her to the lingerie section. He suggested that she try on a lace bodysuit, and after expressing reservations, she reluctantly agreed.

“The moment the dressing-room door is closed, he lunges at me, pushes me against the wall, hitting my head quite badly, and puts his mouth against my lips,” she wrote. Trump then held her against a wall and began pulling down her tights, according to Carroll.

“The next moment, still wearing correct business attire, shirt, tie, suit jacket, overcoat, he opens the overcoat, unzips his pants, and, forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me,” she wrote.

Trump’s response: In a statement to New York magazine, the White House said: “This is a completely false and unrealistic story surfacing 25 years after allegedly taking place and was created simply to make the President look bad.”

Trump later responded in a longer statement, accusing Carroll of fabricating “false stories of assault” for publicity, and attacked New York magazine as “a dying publication [trying to] prop itself up by peddling fake news.”

He also falsely claimed that “I’ve never met this person in my life,” despite a picture of Carroll and Trump at a party that was included in the book excerpt.

When we found out: June 21, 2019

When she says it happened: The fall of 1995 or spring of 1996

*  *  *

4. Alva Johnson
Her account: Johnson, a former staffer on Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, told The Washington Post that the president kissed her without her consent outside of a rally in Florida on August 24, 2016. “I immediately felt violated because I wasn’t expecting it or wanting it,” Johnson said. “I can still see his lips coming straight for my face.” She said she turned her face away from Trump’s kiss, which landed on the side of her mouth, telling the Post that it felt “super-creepy and inappropriate.” Johnson filed a federal lawsuit on Feb. 25, 2016, seeking unspecified damages for emotional pain and suffering.

Trump’s response: White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders responded to Johnson’s accusation, calling it “absurd on its face.”

When we found out: Feb. 25, 2019

When she says it happened: August 2016

*  *  *

5. Ninni Laaksonen
Her account: Laaksonen, a former Miss Finland, told Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sanomat that Trump groped her in July 2006 while she was in New York competing in the Miss Universe pageant. She says the incident occurred right before she and three other contestants, along with Trump, appeared on the “Late Show with David Letterman.” “Trump stood right next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt,” she told Ilta-Sanomat. “He really grabbed my butt. I don’t think anybody saw it but I flinched and thought: ‘What is happening?’” Laaksonen also says that at a party she attended during that time, she was told by another guest that Trump liked her “because [she] looked like Melania when she was younger.”

Trump’s response: Trump did not dispute this allegation specifically, but has denied the broader accusations that he walked into pageant changing rooms unannounced.

When we found out: Oct. 27, 2016

When she says it happened: 2006

*  *  *

6. Jessica Drake
Her account: Drake, an adult film actor and director, said in a press conference with attorney Gloria Allred that Trump grabbed her, kissed her without her consent and offered her $10,000 to have sex with him at a Lake Tahoe golf tournament. She said that she met Trump at a booth for her employer at the time, Wicked Pictures, where Trump flirted with her and asked for her number. According to Drake, later that night he invited her to his penthouse suite. She said she brought along two other women because she “didn’t feel right going alone.” During the press conference, Drake said that Trump “grabbed each of us tightly in a hug and kissed each one of us without asking for permission.” Drake said he was wearing pajamas and there was a body guard present. Later that night, Drake said a man called her on Trump’s behalf to ask her to dinner, but she declined. According to Drake, Trump then called her directly and, after she declined again, asked: “What do you want? How much?” Drake said in the press conference that she declined once more, then received a call from a man on behalf of Trump offering her $10,000 and the use of his private jet to “accept his invitation.”

Trump’s response: The campaign issued a statement calling Drake’s allegations “false and ridiculous.”

“The picture is one of thousands taken out of respect for people asking to have their picture taken with Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump does not know this person, does not remember this person and would have no interest in ever knowing her,” the campaign said, calling Drake’s announcement “just another example of the Clinton campaign trying to rig the election.” Also, during a policy speech on Saturday morning in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, Trump threatened to sue all the women who have accused the candidate of sexual assault.

When we found out: Oct. 22, 2016

When she says it happened: 2006

*  *  *

7. Karena Virginia
Her account: Virginia said in a press conference with attorney Gloria Allred that Trump groped her while she was leaving the US Open in 1998. She said that she was waiting for a car to take her home when Trump approached her with a group of a few other men. According to Virginia he said, “Hey look at this one!” and “Look at those legs.” Virginia alleged that he then grabbed her right arm with his right arm, then touched the inside of her right breast before reportedly asking, “Don’t you know who I am?” Virginia said that her shock soon turned to shame and that she changed the way she dressed as a result of the encounter, hoping to avoid unwanted male attention. She was 27 at the time.

Trump’s response: A Trump campaign spokesperson denied the accusation in a statement to The Washington Post: “Voters are tired of these circuslike antics and reject these fictional stories and the clear efforts to benefit Hillary Clinton.”

When we found out: Oct. 20, 2016

When she says it happened: 1998

 *  *  *
8. Cathy Heller
Her account: Heller, now 63, told The Guardian that the first and only time she interacted with Trump, “he grabbed her, went for a kiss, and grew angry with her as she twisted away.” This was all while Heller was having Mother’s Day brunch at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, with her husband, in-laws and children. She alleges that Trump said, “Oh, come on” when she protested and held her still while he kissed her on the side of the mouth before walking away. A relative who was seated at the table that day confirmed to The Guardian that Trump was “very forceful” and got “in her face.”

Trump’s response: Trump campaign spokesperson Jason Miller told The Guardian: “There is no way that something like this would have happened in a public place on Mother’s Day at Mr. Trump’s resort. It would have been the talk of Palm Beach for the past two decades.”

When we found out: Oct. 15, 2016

When she says it happened: Around 1997 (Heller says she is not 100 percent sure)

 *  * 
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 11, 2021, 07:42:53 AM
9. Summer Zervos
Her account: Zervos, a contestant on season five of “The Apprentice” (and a self-described Republican) said in a press conference with attorney Gloria Allred that Trump assaulted her on several occasions. She said the first time, she met with Trump in his office and he kissed her on the mouth, which Zervos rationalized as simply a strange greeting. On a separate occasion, she said she met with Trump at the Beverly Hills Hotel to discuss business opportunities. Instead Trump grabbed her while she sat next to him and began kissing her and touching her breasts, Zervos said in her statement. Trump later walked her into the bedroom, she told reporters, and “began thrusting his genitals.” The two did go on to have dinner and discuss real estate, according to Zervos. When asked why she chose to come forward now, she said: “I want to be able to sleep when I’m 70.” As of December 2017, Zervos is moving forward with a defamation lawsuit against Trump.

Trump’s response: Trump denied Zervos’ allegation in a lengthy statement. ”I vaguely remember Ms. Zervos as one of the many contestants on The Apprentice over the years. To be clear, I never met her at a hotel or greeted her inappropriately a decade ago. That is not who I am as a person, and it is not how I’ve conducted my life,” Trump said in an October 2016 statement. “In fact, Ms. Zervos continued to contact me for help, emailing my office on April 14th of this year asking that I visit her restaurant in California.” (Head here to read the full statement.)

When we found out: Oct. 14, 2016

When she says it happens: 2007

 *  *  *

10. Kristin Anderson
Her account: Anderson says she was out at a Manhattan nightclub with friends, sitting on a red velvet couch, when she felt Trump reach into her skirt and touch her vagina through her underwear, The Washington Post reports. She told the paper that the incident was brief, but that she and her friends were “very grossed out.” Anderson was in her early 20s at the time, and an aspiring model.

Trump’s response: A spokeswoman for Trump told The Washington Post that he “denies this phony allegation by someone looking to get some free publicity. It is totally ridiculous.” It’s worth noting, though, that Anderson did not approach the Post with her story. She was contacted by a reporter who’d heard about her experience from other people, and reportedly deliberated for several days about whether or not to go public.

When we found out: Oct. 14, 2016

When she says it happened: The early 1990s

*  *  *

11. Samantha Holvey
Her account: Holvey told CNN that while she was competing in the 2006 Miss USA pageant, Trump inspected each contestant before the pageant. “He would step in front of each girl and look you over from head to toe like we were just meat, we were just sexual objects, that we were not people. You know when a gross guy at the bar is checking you out? It’s that feeling,” she told CNN, adding that it was the “the dirtiest I felt in my entire life.”

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Trump’s response: Trump did not specifically dispute this allegation, but has denied the broader accusations that he walked into pageant changing rooms unannounced.

When we found out: Oct. 14, 2016

When she says it happened: 2006

*  *  *

12. Lisa Boyne
Her account: Boyne told HuffPost that during the summer of 1996, Boyne, Trump, modeling agent John Casablancas and others went to dinner in Lower Manhattan. Boyne, who at the time worked at a think tank, said the women at the dinner were all sitting at a circular booth bookended by Trump and Casablancas. According to Boyne, the women could only exit the booth by walking on the table. She told HuffPost that Trump did not pursue her sexually, but asked her opinion on who at the table he should sleep with.

Trump’s response: Hope Hicks responded to the allegation in a statement to HuffPost: “Mr. Trump never heard of this woman and would never do that.”

When we found out: Oct. 13, 2016

When she says it happened: 1996

*  *  *

13. Jessica Leeds
Her account: More than 30 years ago, Leeds was traveling for work when she sat next to Trump on a flight to New York. Leeds, who is now 74, told The New York Times that she and Trump spoke for a bit, then about 45 minutes into the flight he lifted the armrest between them and began to grab her breasts and put his hand up her skirt. “He was like an octopus,” she told The New York Times. “His hands were everywhere.”

Trump’s response: Trump vehemently denied the story. An attorney representing him has called upon The New York Times to retract it and has threatened to sue the publication. (The New York Times responded.)

When we found out: Oct. 12, 2016

When she says it happened: The early 1980s

 *  *  *

14. Rachel Crooks
Her account: Crooks says she was assaulted by Trump in an elevator while working as a receptionist for a real estate investment and development company in Trump Tower. She told The New York Times that upon meeting Trump, she introduced herself and shook his hand, but he would not let go. Trump began to kiss her on the cheeks, then directly on the mouth. “It was so inappropriate,” she told the Times. “I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that.” Crooks was 22 at the time.

Trump’s response: See above.

When we found out: Oct. 12, 2016

When she says it happened: 2005

 *  *  *

15. Mindy McGillivray
Her account: McGillivray, 36, told the Palm Beach Post that Trump groped her while she was attending a concert at Mar-a-Lago, his estate-slash-private-club in Palm Beach, Florida. She was there to help a friend who was photographing the concert, when she says Trump groped her. “All of a sudden I felt a grab, a little nudge. I think it’s Ken’s camera bag, that was my first instinct. I turn around and there’s Donald,” McGillivray told the Palm Beach Post. “This was a pretty good nudge. More of a grab,’’ she continued. “It was pretty close to the center of my butt. I was startled. I jumped.”

Trump’s response: A day after the account was published, CNN reported that Trump’s campaign was drafting a lawsuit against the paper.

When we found out: Oct. 12, 2016

When she says it happened: 2003

 *  *  *

16. Natasha Stoynoff
Her account: In a harrowing essay for People, Stoynoff ― a journalist ― described how Trump assaulted her while she was interviewing him and his wife, Melania, at their Palm Beach estate. She writes that Trump insisted on giving her a private tour of the grounds, at which point he pinned and kissed her: “Trump shut the door behind us. I turned around, and within seconds, he was pushing me against the wall, and forcing his tongue down my throat ... I was grateful when Trump’s longtime butler burst into the room a minute later, as I tried to unpin myself.”

Trump’s response: At a campaign rally, Trump questioned her claims saying, “Look at her. ... I don’t think so.”

When we found out: Oct. 12, 2016

When she says it happened: 2005

 *  *  *

17. Jennifer Murphy
Her account: Murphy, a contestant on Season 4 of “The Apprentice,” told Grazia that Trump kissed her on the lips after a job interview. “He walked me to the elevator, and I said goodbye. ... When he pulled my face in and gave me a smooch. I was like ‘OK,’” she told Grazia. “I didn’t know how to act.” Murphy also told the publication that she still planned to vote for Trump.

Trump’s response: N/A

When we found out: Oct. 12, 2016

When she says it happened: 2005

 *  *  *

18. Mariah Billado
Her account: Billado, a former Miss Teen USA contestant, told BuzzFeed that Trump walked into the changing room while the contestants were half-dressed. “I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here’” Billado said. She remembered Trump responding: “Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.” Billado was one of four former Miss Teen USA contestants to tell BuzzFeed the same story (the other three chose to stay anonymous).

Trump’s response: In a statement to the Washington Post, a spokesperson for Trump denied all allegations that he walked into the changing room while women were naked. “These accusations have no merit and have already been disproven by many other individuals who were present,” the statement read. “When you see questionable attacks like this magically put out there in the final month of a presidential campaign, you have to ask yourself what the political motivations are and why the media is pushing it.”

When we found out: Oct. 12, 2016

When she says it happened: 1997

 *  *  *

19. Tasha Dixon
Her account: Dixon told CBS 2 Los Angeles that when she was 18 and competing in a Miss Universe pageant, Trump walked into the changing room while the participants were changing. “Our first introduction to him was when we were at the dress rehearsal and half naked changing into our bikinis,” Dixon said. “He just came strolling right in. There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Other girls were naked.”

Trump’s response: In a statement to the Washington Post, a spokesperson for Trump denied all allegations that he walked into the changing room while women were naked. “These accusations have no merit and have already been disproven by many other individuals who were present,” the statement read. “When you see questionable attacks like this magically put out there in the final month of a presidential campaign, you have to ask yourself what the political motivations are and why the media is pushing it.”

When we found out: Oct. 11, 2016

When she says it happened: 2001

*  *  *

20. Cassandra Searles
Her account: Yahoo News reported that last summer, Cassandra Searles ― Miss Washington 2013 ― posted a photo on Facebook of her fellow contestants and the question: “Do y’all remember that one time we had to do our onstage introductions, but this one guy treated us like cattle and made us do it again because we didn’t look him in the eyes? Do you also remember when he then proceeded to have us lined up so he could get a closer look at his property?” In a follow-up comment on the post, she reportedly added: “He probably doesn’t want me telling the story about that time he continually grabbed my ass and invited me to his hotel room.”

Trump’s response: Trump did not specifically dispute this allegation, but has denied the broader accusations that he walked into pageant changing rooms unannounced.

When we found out: June 2016

When she says it happened: Unclear, but possibly in 2013

 *  *  *

21. “Jane Doe”
Her account: In June, a California woman — “Jane Doe” ― filed a lawsuit alleging that Trump raped her at a party when she was 13 years old. As Buzzfeed reported, an initial hearing in the case had been scheduled for December 2016. However, on Nov. 4 of that year ― several days after the attorney for “Jane Doe” announced a press conference, then abruptly canceled it at her client’s request ― she instructed her attorney to dismiss the lawsuit.

Trump’s response: Trump has vigorously denied the claims, saying that the lawsuit was designed to smear his presidential campaign.

When we found out: June 2016

When she says it happened: 1994

*  *  *

22. Bridget Sullivan
Her account: Sullivan, a former Miss Universe contestant, told BuzzFeed that Trump would hug her and give her “a squeeze that your creepy uncle would.” She added that before the Miss Universe contest in 2000, Trump came backstage to wish all of the contestants good luck. “The time that he walked through the dressing rooms was really shocking,” she said. “We were all naked.”

Trump’s response: Trump spokesperson Hope Hicks told BuzzFeed that some of the stories mentioned in BuzzFeed’s report “are totally false” and pointed to the fact that Trump has tweeted, “Nobody has more respect for women than Donald Trump!”

When we found out: May 18, 2016

When she says it happened: 2000

* * *

23. Temple Taggart McDowell
Her account: The year that Taggart McDowell was crowned Miss Utah, Trump had just taken ownership of the Miss USA pageant. She says that when she was first introduced to him, he kissed her. “He kissed me directly on the lips,” Taggart McDowell told The New York Times when she came forward with her story. “I thought, ‘Oh my God, gross.’ He was married to Marla Maples at the time … I was like ‘Wow, that’s inappropriate.’”

Trump’s response: Trump told NBC he doesn’t know who she is and denies he ever assaulted her.

When we found out: May 2016

When she says it happened: 1997

 *  *  *

24. Jill Harth
Her account: Harth worked with Trump in the 1990s (she and her partner operated a competition called American Dream Calendar Girls), but it ended in a bitter legal battle. In a 1997 lawsuit, Harth alleged in court documents that Trump repeatedly sexually harassed her, at one point groping her under the table. (The documents were surfaced by The Boston Globe.) Though she eventually dropped that suit, she stands by her story. “How can people not believe me now?” she asked “Inside Edition” after footage of Trump emerged in which he said he can grab women by the pussy.

Trump’s response: In a May New York Times article on Trump’s treatment of women that also included Harth’s account, Trump said it was, in fact, Harth who had pursued him.

When we found out: April 2016

When she says it happens: 1993

 *  *  *

25. Ivana Trump
Her account: In a 1992 deposition during their divorce, Trump’s first wife described an incident in which she says her then-husband forced her to have sex with him. (Spousal rape is still rape.) The deposition came to light in the 1993 Trump biography Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump. Ivana later softened her claims, saying that she “felt violated” as the love and tenderness she was accustomed to from her husband was absent that night, but she was not accusing him of a crime. She followed-up with a statement obtained by CNN last June telling in which she said “the story is totally without merit.”

Trump’s response: He denies it ever took place.

When we found out: 1993

When she says it happens: 1989

This article, originally published in October 2016, has been updated to include additional allegations.



Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 11, 2021, 07:44:53 AM
to be continued   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: mphgrove on May 11, 2021, 07:56:02 AM
I myself have been guilty of posting politics but, if I were the moderators, I would shift the ongoing drivel about Biden over to the political board. It doesn’t feel like it fits. Just a thought. Although, I sometimes wonder if getbiggers are ageing and simply losing interest in bodybuilding but lingering for comaraderie and humor. When someone posts a photo of a new unknown bodybuilder, the reaction generally seems to be WHO or more like WHO CARES.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 11, 2021, 08:01:35 AM
I myself have been guilty of posting politics but, if I were the moderators, I would shift the ongoing drivel about Biden over to the political board. It doesn’t feel like it fits. Just a thought. Although, I sometimes wonder if getbiggers are ageing and simply losing interest in bodybuilding but lingering for comaraderie and humor. When someone posts a photo of a new unknown bodybuilder, the reaction generally seems to be WHO or more like WHO CARES.
   all good points but it's funny how a simple pic can create so many varied reactions.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 11, 2021, 08:12:37 AM
I myself have been guilty of posting politics but, if I were the moderators, I would shift the ongoing drivel about Biden over to the political board. It doesn’t feel like it fits. Just a thought. Although, I sometimes wonder if getbiggers are ageing and simply losing interest in bodybuilding but lingering for comaraderie and humor. When someone posts a photo of a new unknown bodybuilder, the reaction generally seems to be WHO or more like WHO CARES.

That's because the up-and-comers now days have no hype or substance to them.  Look at the pro qualifiers in the past, you had 3-6 future pros battling it out and everyone had heard of them and was rooting for their favorite.  More times than not, the newly minted pro would come onto the scene and place high or win his first couple of shows serving notice that the ranks were about to get shuffled up. 

When was the last time a Flex or Levrone or Newman or hell,..  even a Melvin Anthony has emerged?   There is nothing to get excited about today with the current and future crop.  Despite social media and the internet, there is no hype or excitement in following along any more.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: mphgrove on May 11, 2021, 08:36:33 AM
That's because the up-and-comers now days have no hype or substance to them.  Look at the pro qualifiers in the past, you had 3-6 future pros battling it out and everyone had heard of them and was rooting for their favorite.  More times than not, the newly minted pro would come onto the scene and place high or win his first couple of shows serving notice that the ranks were about to get shuffled up. 

When was the last time a Flex or Levrone or Newman or hell,..  even a Melvin Anthony has emerged?   There is nothing to get excited about today with the current and future crop.  Despite social media and the internet, there is no hype or excitement in following along any more.

Actually have to 100% agree. Even just looking at the photo above with Weider surrounded by the muscle guys confirms no electricity any more compared to earlier times.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 11, 2021, 09:09:16 AM
Actually have to 100% agree. Even just looking at the photo above with Weider surrounded by the muscle guys confirms no electricity any more compared to earlier times.
                lurker is right bodybuilding was more exciting in the 50's and 60's even into the early 80's.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Royalty on May 11, 2021, 09:17:30 AM
                lurker is right bodybuilding was more exciting in the 50's and 60's even into the early 80's.

Funk did you see the Night of Champions (the one that Strydom won) on YouTube? Definitely way more exciting than anything today.




Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: TheShape. on May 11, 2021, 09:19:54 AM
Funk the cuck, you get what’s deserved unfortunately
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 11, 2021, 09:47:47 AM
Funk did you see the Night of Champions (the one that Strydom won) on YouTube? Definitely way more exciting than anything today.





  for sure Mr. Royalty, on that we can agree , great lineup.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 11, 2021, 09:54:35 AM
check these out...     
   
   
   
&t=66s    I know I/m old, don't have to remind me.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 11, 2021, 10:30:17 AM
Joe Biden isn't worth talking about.  He's an establishment stooge that can barely walk and talk.  He has sold the United States out to enrich himself and his family.  He'll continue to do so.

He's a piece of shit.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 11, 2021, 10:34:29 AM
Joe Biden isn't worth talking about.  He's an establishment stooge that can barely walk and talk.  He has sold the United States out to enrich himself and his family.  He'll continue to do so.

He's a piece of shit.
   exactly, than can you explain to me why 25 percent of the threads on page 1  are devoted to him on a bodybuilding website. I mean his physique really wasn't that noteworthy.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 11, 2021, 10:51:55 AM
It’s essentially having an actor playing the part of president. He sits in his trailer all day and then gets called to the set to read lines off a teleprompter.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 11, 2021, 10:57:34 AM
It’s essentially having an actor playing the part of president. He sits in his trailer all day and then gets called to the set to read lines off a teleprompter.
             
    almost like this guy, who is a great comedian by the way.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 11, 2021, 01:19:14 PM
The line ups used to be DEEP and packed with people that could have won on any given day.   Back then you never heard anyone say,  "well if so-and-so shows up in shape then... "  Because nearly everyone always showed up in great shape.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 11, 2021, 01:27:32 PM
             
    almost like this guy, who is a great comedian by the way.


Trump ad libbed more in a typical week than  Biden has in his entire presidency so far. You got a fake president and a fake media to cover for him.

I’m glad there’s a lot of Biden threads. I haven’t started any but we had to listen to your pathetic obsession with Trump for four fucking years. Even now that he’s not  president he still owns your mind.

Rock on  Body-Buildah💪💪
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 11, 2021, 02:16:14 PM
to be continued   ;D ;D ;D ;D


Old man, U sound super jealous ..................... ::)
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 11, 2021, 02:18:37 PM
                lurker is right bodybuilding was more exciting in the 50's and 60's even into the early 80's.


funky41 , who is older U or lurk !?.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 11, 2021, 02:19:05 PM
   exactly, than can you explain to me why 25 percent of the threads on page 1  are devoted to him on a bodybuilding website.

I have no idea.  I've given up caring about politics.  If people want a senile, child sniffing grifter as their President then so fucking be it.

Right now all I give a fuck about is money.  I'm stacking as much money as I can in order to shield myself from the consequences of Democrat idiocy.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 11, 2021, 02:20:23 PM
I have no idea.  I've given up caring about politics.  If people want a senile, child sniffing grifter as their President then so fucking be it.

Right now all I give a fuck about is money.  I'm stacking as much money as I can in order to shield myself from the consequences of Democrat idiocy.

This is a perfectly rational strategy.👍
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: ThisisOverload on May 11, 2021, 02:23:56 PM
Not that I particularly give a shit about thongian combat on the pageant stage but I have almost completely stopped reading this board because of the level of politics that has infected gb over the last few years.

Every time I look it it, it's the same bullshit.  A fucking tiresome shouting match of right vs left rhetoric, with very few people really interested in any way, shape or form in giving an inch.

Not that there isn't reason to have a heightened interest in politics thesedays - but who the fuck wants to waste their spare time "debating" that shit?  Sad c.u.nts   

I'd rather be jerking off and watching Goodrum house tours (maybe at the same time).  Now that is what I call living.

It's a shame we don't have a Politics Discussion board here. ;D

I find it funny when old man funk51 posts threads like this. He's responsible for over 50% of the political posts and threads on this page.

It's just that most people have learned to ignore him completely.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: rocket on May 12, 2021, 02:31:27 AM
It's a shame we don't have a Politics Discussion board here. ;D

Yeah - I didn't even bother bringing that up because it feels as if the majority want to wallow in pointless political bickering and if that's what the majority want to do, why should it be pushed off to a side board?

No doubt that bodybuilding and professional bodybuilding has never been less interesting in our life times.  Replacing it with talking about presidents all the fucking time is a strange choice.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 12, 2021, 02:34:13 AM
It's a shame we don't have a Politics Discussion board here. ;D

I find it funny when old man funk51 posts threads like this. He's responsible for over 50% of the political posts and threads on this page.

It's just that most people have learned to ignore him completely.

I thought that was a bit odd. Good guy though, everyone here is, people can poke fun at each other or retarded presidents.
This place hasnt really been a lifting forum for ages. There are numerous, much better than this one for lifting related stuff.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 12, 2021, 12:23:47 PM

Trump ad libbed more in a typical week than  Biden has in his entire presidency so far. You got a fake president and a fake media to cover for him.

I’m glad there’s a lot of Biden threads. I haven’t started any but we had to listen to your pathetic obsession with Trump for four fucking years. Even now that he’s not  president he still owns your mind.

Rock on  Body-Buildah💪💪
                                       
          ad-libbed is that another word for lied.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 12, 2021, 12:24:58 PM

Old man, U sound super jealous ..................... ::)
     so you think being a rapist with 18 known accusers is an admirable quality.... okay
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 12, 2021, 12:26:54 PM

funky41 , who is older U or lurk !?.
                  probably me I'd say. but I'm still younger than the current and former president and that's not a good thing.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 12, 2021, 12:29:06 PM
It's a shame we don't have a Politics Discussion board here. ;D

I find it funny when old man funk51 posts threads like this. He's responsible for over 50% of the political posts and threads on this page.

It's just that most people have learned to ignore him completely.
       ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   that's why you're on here ignoring me right. and by the way , I very seldom posted anything political on the main board.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 12, 2021, 12:31:25 PM
Yeah - I didn't even bother bringing that up because it feels as if the majority want to wallow in pointless political bickering and if that's what the majority want to do, why should it be pushed off to a side board?

No doubt that bodybuilding and professional bodybuilding has never been less interesting in our life times.  Replacing it with talking about presidents all the fucking time is a strange choice.
   good post and you are absolutely right.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: ThisisOverload on May 12, 2021, 12:33:46 PM
       ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   that's why you're on here ignoring me right. and by the way , I very seldom posted anything political on the main board.

You really are retarded. ;D
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 12, 2021, 12:34:20 PM
I put another one up for fun.  8)
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 12, 2021, 12:39:44 PM
You really are retarded. ;D
           
                                   duhh,  that's why I'm on here took you long enough to figure that one out.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 12, 2021, 12:41:00 PM
I put another one up for fun.  8)
    good for you that's what it's all about.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 12, 2021, 01:05:07 PM
    good for you that's what it's all about.



Well, that's the thing...really. The whole "BDS" thing is a joke because nobody on the right really thinks the guy is in charge, ergo there is a component of humor missing in TDS.


Recall, the left was blaming Trump for everything that existed in this world including storms...hahaha.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/09/11/yes-you-can-blame-president-trump-for-hurricane-florence/
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 12, 2021, 01:14:06 PM


Well, that's the thing...really. The whole "BDS" thing is a joke because nobody on the right really thinks the guy is in charge, ergo there is a component of humor missing in TDS.


Recall, the left was blaming Trump for everything that existed in this world including storms...hahaha.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/09/11/yes-you-can-blame-president-trump-for-hurricane-florence/
   
                                oh yeah that's when the guy with the really good brain was wondering if we could nuke a hurricane.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 12, 2021, 07:10:13 PM
BTW, there are so many threads about Biden's failures....because he is failing so many ways.

He's going to be removed from office, probably this year the way things are going.


HTH
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 13, 2021, 08:12:44 AM
BTW, there are so many threads about Biden's failures....because he is failing so many ways.

He's going to be removed from office, probably this year the way things are going.


HTH
  and then kamala harris will be the first woman president and the first non-white woman president also, two birds with one stone. the usa wasn't ready for a woman president, that's why trump won the last election even though he cheated and still had over 2 million less votes than clinton. after harris is finished with her run. pete buttplug and that yang guy will be president and VP. at least that's the plan.   Q
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 13, 2021, 08:17:58 AM
  and then kamala harris will be the first woman president and the first non-white woman president also, two birds with one stone. the usa wasn't ready for a woman president, that's why trump won the last election even though he cheated and still had over 2 million less votes than clinton. after harris is finished with her run. pete buttplug and that yang guy will be president and VP. at least that's the plan.   Q


Trump cheated to win in 2016? Haha. Never heard that one. Revisionist history.

The USA is ready for a QUALIFIED woman as POTUS, not a Hillary or Kamala type.

"kill two birds with one stone" ... what does that mean? Just select based on sex and skin color? Sounds racist and sexist.

Woke old men are confused....nothing sadder than men that vote like cat ladies.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 13, 2021, 08:29:37 AM

Trump cheated to win in 2016? Haha. Never heard that one. Revisionist history.

The USA is ready for a QUALIFIED woman as POTUS, not a Hillary or Kamala type.

"kill two birds with one stone" ... what does that mean? Just select based on sex and skin color? Sounds racist and sexist.

Woke old men are confused....nothing sadder than men that vote like cat ladies.
    How Russia Helped Swing the Election for Trump
A meticulous analysis of online activity during the 2016 campaign makes a powerful case that targeted cyberattacks by hackers and trolls were decisive.

By Jane Mayer

September 24, 2018
profile of Trump composed of 0s and 1s
Kathleen Hall Jamieson, of Penn, has done a forensic examination of the campaign.Illustration by Tyler Comrie

Donald Trump has adopted many contradictory positions since taking office, but he has been unwavering on one point: that Russia played no role in putting him in the Oval Office. Trump dismisses the idea that Russian interference affected the outcome of the 2016 election, calling it a “made-up story,” “ridiculous,” and “a hoax.” He finds the subject so threatening to his legitimacy that—according to “The Perfect Weapon,” a recent book on cyber sabotage by David Sanger, of the Times—aides say he refuses even to discuss it. In public, Trump has characterized all efforts to investigate the foreign attacks on American democracy during the campaign as a “witch hunt”; in March, he insisted that “the Russians had no impact on our votes whatsoever.”

Few people, including Trump’s opponents, have publicly challenged the widespread belief that no obtainable evidence can prove that Russian interference changed any votes. Democrats, for the most part, have avoided attributing Hillary Clinton’s defeat directly to Russian machinations. They have more readily blamed James Comey, the former F.B.I. director, for reversing Clinton’s thin lead in the final days of the campaign by reopening a criminal investigation into her mishandling of classified e-mails. Many have also expressed frustration with Clinton’s weak performance as a candidate, and with her campaign’s tactical errors. Instead of investigating whether Russia tipped the electoral scales on its own, they’ve focussed on the possibility that Trump colluded with Russia, and that this, along with other crimes, might be exposed by the probe being conducted by the special counsel, Robert Mueller.

The U.S. intelligence community, for its part, is prohibited from investigating domestic political affairs. James Clapper, the former director of National Intelligence, told me, “We try not to spy on Americans. It’s not in our charter.” He emphasized that, although he and other intelligence officials produced—and shared with Trump—a postelection report confirming an extensive cyberattack by Russia, the assessment did not attempt to gauge how this foreign meddling had affected American voters. Speaking for himself, however, he told me that “it stretches credulity to think the Russians didn’t turn the election.”

Ordinarily, Congress would aggressively examine an electoral controversy of this magnitude, but the official investigations in the House and the Senate, led by Republicans, have been too stymied by partisanship to address the ultimate question of whether Trump’s victory was legitimate. Although the Senate hearings are still under way, the Intelligence Committee chairman, Richard Burr, a Republican, has already declared, “What we cannot do, however, is calculate the impact that foreign meddling and social media had on this election.”

Even the Clinton campaign has stopped short of attributing its loss to the Russians. Joel Benenson, the campaign’s pollster, told me that “a global power is fucking with our elections,” and that “every American should be outraged, whether it changed the outcome or not.” But did the meddling alter the outcome? “How will we ever know?” he said. “We probably won’t, until some Russians involved in it are actually prosecuted—or some Republican, in a moment of conscience, talks.”

Politicians may be too timid to explore the subject, but a new book from, of all places, Oxford University Press promises to be incendiary. “Cyberwar: How Russian Hackers and Trolls Helped Elect a President—What We Don’t, Can’t, and Do Know,” by Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a professor of communications at the University of Pennsylvania, dares to ask—and even attempts to answer—whether Russian meddling had a decisive impact in 2016. Jamieson offers a forensic analysis of the available evidence and concludes that Russia very likely delivered Trump’s victory.

The book, which is coming out less than two months before the midterm elections, at a moment when polls suggest that some sixty per cent of voters disapprove of Trump, may well reignite the question of Trump’s electoral legitimacy. The President’s supporters will likely characterize the study as an act of partisan warfare. But in person Jamieson, who wears her gray hair in a pixie cut and favors silk scarves and matronly tweeds, looks more likely to suspend a troublemaker than to be one. She is seventy-one, and has spent forty years studying political speeches, ads, and debates. Since 1993, she has directed the Annenberg Public Policy Center, at Penn, and in 2003 she co-founded FactCheck.org, a nonpartisan watchdog group. She is widely respected by political experts in both parties, though her predominantly male peers have occasionally mocked her scholarly intensity, calling her the Drill Sergeant. As Steven Livingston, a professor of political communication at George Washington University, puts it, “She is the epitome of a humorless, no-nonsense social scientist driven by the numbers. She doesn’t bullshit. She calls it straight.”

Indeed, when I met recently with Jamieson, in a book-lined conference room at the Annenberg Center, in Philadelphia, and asked her point-blank if she thought that Trump would be President without the aid of Russians, she didn’t equivocate. “No,” she said, her face unsmiling. Clearly cognizant of the gravity of her statement, she clarified, “If everything else is a constant? No, I do not.”

Jamieson said that, as an academic, she hoped that the public would challenge her arguments. Yet she expressed confidence that unbiased readers would accept her conclusion that it is not just plausible that Russia changed the outcome of the 2016 election—it is “likely that it did.”

An airtight case, she acknowledges, may never be possible. In the introduction to her new book, she writes that any case for influence will likely be similar to that in a civil legal trial, “in which the verdict is rendered not with the certainty that e=mc2 but rather based on the preponderance of evidence.” But, she points out, “we do make most of life’s decisions based on less-than-rock-solid, incontrovertible evidence.” In Philadelphia, she noted to me that “we convict people on probabilities rather than absolute certainty, and we’ve executed people based on inferences from available evidence.” She argued that “the standard of proof being demanded” by people claiming it’s impossible to know whether Russia delivered the White House to Trump is “substantially higher than the standard of proof we ordinarily use in our lives.”

Her case is based on a growing body of knowledge about the electronic warfare waged by Russian trolls and hackers—whom she terms “discourse saboteurs”—and on five decades’ worth of academic studies about what kinds of persuasion can influence voters, and under what circumstances. Democracies around the world, she told me, have begun to realize that subverting an election doesn’t require tampering with voting machines. Extensive studies of past campaigns, Jamieson said, have demonstrated that “you can affect people, who then change their decision, and that alters the outcome.” She continued, “I’m not arguing that Russians pulled the voting levers. I’m arguing that they persuaded enough people to either vote a certain way or not vote at all.”



The effect of such manipulations could be momentous in an election as close as the 2016 race, in which Clinton got nearly 2.9 million more votes than Trump, and Trump won the Electoral College only because some eighty thousand votes went his way in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. In two hundred and twenty-four pages of extremely dry prose, with four appendixes of charts and graphs and fifty-four pages of footnotes, Jamieson makes a strong case that, in 2016, “Russian masterminds” pulled off a technological and political coup. Moreover, she concludes, the American media “inadvertently helped them achieve their goals.”

When Jamieson set out to research the 2016 campaign—she has researched every Presidential election since 1976—she had no intention of lobbing a grenade. She was spending a peaceful sabbatical as a fellow at the Shorenstein Center, at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, exploring a rather narrow topic: the 2016 Presidential debates. She’d chosen this subject because, having devoted decades to examining the impact of advertising and other forms of persuasion on voters, she believed that most of the big questions in the field of political-campaign communications had been answered. Also, she admitted, “I have what you could call a debate fixation. Every year since 1996 I’ve done some kind of social-science look at the effects of debates.”

This expertise helped Jamieson notice something odd about the three debates between Trump and Clinton. As she told me, “The conventional wisdom was that Hillary Clinton had done pretty well.” According to CNN polls conducted immediately after the debates, she won all three, by a margin of thirteen per cent or greater. But, during the period of the debates, Jamieson and others at the Annenberg Center had overseen three telephone surveys, each sampling about a thousand adults. In an election that turned more than most on judgments of character, Americans who saw or heard the second and third debates, in particular, were more likely than those who hadn’t to agree that Clinton “says one thing in public and something else in private.” Jamieson found this statistic curious, because, by the time of the first debate, on September 26th, Clinton’s reputation for candor had already been tarnished by her failed attempt to hide the fact that she’d developed pneumonia, and by the revelation that, at a recent fund-raising event, she’d described some Trump supporters as “deplorables”—a slur that contradicted her slogan “Stronger Together.” Other Annenberg Center polling data indicated to Jamieson that concerns about Clinton being two-faced had been “baked in” voters’ minds since before the first debate. Clinton “had already been attacked for a very long time over that,” Jamieson recalls thinking. “Why would the debates have had an additional effect?”

After insuring that the surveys had been properly conducted, Jamieson analyzed whether this change in a voter’s perception of Clinton’s forthrightness predicted a change in his or her candidate preference. To her surprise, she found that it did: as she put it to me, there was a “small but significant drop in reported intention to vote for her.” This statistic, too, struck Jamieson as curious; she knew from years of scholarship that Presidential debates, barring major gaffes, typically “increase the likelihood that you’re casting a vote for, rather than against,” a candidate.

Last year, while Jamieson was trying to determine what could have caused viewers’ perception of Clinton’s character to fall so consequentially, the Washington Post asked her to write an op-ed addressing whether Russian operatives had helped to elect Trump. Jamieson agreed to do so, but, she admitted to me, “I frankly hadn’t thought about it one way or the other.”

A man covered in bandages waves to another guy as he puts rubber bands on a lobster's claws.
“This is Gerald—he puts on the rubber bands.”
Jamieson is scrupulously nonpartisan in her work. Beth Myers, who helped lead Mitt Romney’s Presidential campaigns in 2008 and 2012 and worked with Jamieson on a bipartisan project about Presidential debates, told me, “If Kathleen has a point of view, I don’t know what it is. She’s extraordinarily evenhanded. She is fair and fearless.” Anita Dunn, a Democratic adviser to Barack Obama, agrees. She, too, worked with Jamieson on the Presidential-debates project, and she studied with her as an undergraduate. Jamieson, she says, “is constantly pointing out what the data actually shows, as opposed to those of us who just assert stuff.”

Jamieson began her study of the 2016 election with an open mind. But, in the fall of 2017, as she watched the House and the Senate hold hearings on Russia’s social-media manipulations, and reviewed the sampling of dozens of Facebook ads released by the House Intelligence Committee—all paid for by Russians during the Presidential campaign—she developed suspicions about the reasons behind Trump’s victory. Before the hearings, Facebook’s chairman and C.E.O., Mark Zuckerberg, had maintained that the amount of Russian content that had been disseminated on social media was too small to matter. But evidence presented to the Senate committee revealed that material generated by the Kremlin had reached a hundred and twenty-six million American Facebook users, leading Senator Dianne Feinstein to call the cyberattack “cataclysmic.”
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 13, 2021, 08:30:28 AM
House Democrats later released not only the ads but also their “targeting data”—the demographics and the geographic locations of users receiving them—which indicated to Jamieson “whom the Russians were going for.” Among other things, she could discern that the Russians had tried “to minimize the vote of African-Americans.” Bogus Kremlin-sponsored ads that had circulated online—including one depicting a black woman in front of an “african-americans for hillary” sign—had urged voters to tweet or text rather than vote, or to “avoid the line” and “vote from home.”

Jamieson’s Post article was grounded in years of scholarship on political persuasion. She noted that political messages are especially effective when they are sent by trusted sources, such as members of one’s own community. Russian operatives, it turned out, disguised themselves in precisely this way. As the Times first reported, on June 8, 2016, a Facebook user depicting himself as Melvin Redick, a genial family man from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, posted a link to DCLeaks.com, and wrote that users should check out “the hidden truth about Hillary Clinton, George Soros and other leaders of the US.” The profile photograph of “Redick” showed him in a backward baseball cap, alongside his young daughter—but Pennsylvania records showed no evidence of Redick’s existence, and the photograph matched an image of an unsuspecting man in Brazil. U.S. intelligence experts later announced, “with high confidence,” that DCLeaks was the creation of the G.R.U., Russia’s military-intelligence agency.

Academic research has also shown that political messages tend not to change the minds of voters who have already chosen a candidate; they are most likely to persuade undecided voters. And in 2016 an uncommonly high percentage of voters liked neither candidate and stayed undecided longer than usual. By some counts, about thirty-seven million Americans—fifteen per cent of the electorate—were still undecided in the final weeks before the election.

Jamieson argues that the impact of the Russian cyberwar was likely enhanced by its consistency with messaging from Trump’s campaign, and by its strategic alignment with the campaign’s geographic and demographic objectives. Had the Kremlin tried to push voters in a new direction, its effort might have failed. But, Jamieson concluded, the Russian saboteurs nimbly amplified Trump’s divisive rhetoric on immigrants, minorities, and Muslims, among other signature topics, and targeted constituencies that he needed to reach. She noted that Russian trolls had created social-media posts clearly aimed at winning support for Trump from churchgoers and military families—key Republican voters who seemed likely to lack enthusiasm for a thrice-married nominee who had boasted of groping women, obtained multiple military deferments, mocked Gold Star parents and a former prisoner of war, and described the threat of venereal disease as his personal equivalent of the Vietcong. Russian trolls pretended to have the same religious convictions as targeted users, and often promoted Biblical memes, including one that showed Clinton as Satan, with budding horns, arm-wrestling with Jesus, alongside the message “ ‘Like’ if you want Jesus to win!” One Instagram post, portraying Clinton as uncaring about the 2012 tragedy in Benghazi, depicted a young American widow resting her head on a flag-draped coffin. Another post displayed contrasting images of a thin homeless veteran and a heavyset, swarthy man wearing an “undocumented unafraid unapologetic” T-shirt, and asked why “this veteran gets nothing” and “this illegal gets everything.” It concluded, “Like and share if you think this is a disgrace.” On Election Day, according to CNN exit polls, Trump, despite his political baggage, outperformed Clinton by twenty-six points among veterans; he also did better among evangelicals than both of the previous Republican nominees, Mitt Romney and John McCain.

Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 13, 2021, 08:34:29 AM
   
    never heard any of that eh wat ?  I guess you mustn't read much.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Hypertrophy on May 13, 2021, 08:38:58 AM
   
    never heard any of that eh wat ?  I guess you mustn't read much.


God you are a dumbfuck Funk, lol. Go cash your public assistance check and stock up on Colt 45 bro.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 13, 2021, 08:48:13 AM

God you are a dumbfuck Funk, lol. Go cash your public assistance check and stock up on Colt 45 bro.
     
&index=28                                                     
                                                      I agree
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 13, 2021, 12:14:06 PM
BTW, there are so many threads about Biden's failures....because he is failing so many ways.

He's going to be removed from office, probably this year the way things are going.


HTH

What's your excuse going to be when he isn't?
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 13, 2021, 12:39:43 PM
Funk posting articles from the New Yorker.  ;D



Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 13, 2021, 12:56:09 PM
What's your excuse going to be when he isn't?


I'm not a swami strawtard, it just has a really nice ring to it.

The mainstream news and eventually even his dense constituents will be forced to admit things are worse off due to poor policy in several areas.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 13, 2021, 01:16:45 PM

I'm not a swami strawtard, it just has a really nice ring to it.

The mainstream news and eventually even his dense constituents will be forced to admit things are worse off due to poor policy in several areas.
   
&t=36s    is this what you believe in ?
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 13, 2021, 01:52:57 PM
   
&t=36s    is this what you believe in ?


Q hasn't been right about anything but they keep talking, I pay them no mind.

Biden just tweeted you have to wear a mask forever in the USA unless vaccinated, like he's some sort of king...like it's possible to enforce.

No benefit to people in this country...laughable "leader" wholly owned by China.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: Body-Buildah on May 13, 2021, 03:53:58 PM

Q hasn't been right about anything but they keep talking, I pay them no mind.

Biden just tweeted you have to wear a mask forever in the USA unless vaccinated, like he's some sort of king...like it's possible to enforce.

No benefit to people in this country...laughable "leader" wholly owned by China.

Biggest joke in history, this rapist/racist/demented clown. Boy libs are pretty retarded.  ???
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 13, 2021, 05:25:42 PM
Funk posting articles from the New Yorker.  ;D

Plagiator funk41 !.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 13, 2021, 05:31:13 PM
   
&t=36s    is this what you believe in ?


funk41, are you jealous of Stephen Hawking "good look"  ;D
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 14, 2021, 10:12:11 AM
Biggest joke in history, this rapist/racist/demented clown. Boy libs are pretty retarded.  ???
    do you ever post anything other than your view of the current political scene. with a name like body-buildah you'd think you would post something other than your hate for Biden and undying love for Drumpf. but if that's what makes you happy have at it.
Title: Re: first page of gossip 28 threads concerning joe biden
Post by: funk51 on May 14, 2021, 10:13:20 AM

funk41, are you jealous of Stephen Hawking "good look"  ;D
  no are you ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::)