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Re: Canadian commercial for suicide.
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2022, 06:41:31 PM »
most people get a part of their cock cut off in america just because of some old bronze age superstition. which is dumb as shit

Good observation.

Most men don’t make this decision on their own though.

Do you think it’s a practice of tradition or it’s done because it lowers risk of UTI’s in babies and other medical issues (eliminates the risk of penile cancer being one).

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« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2022, 06:58:30 PM »
What I support is the government staying the hell out of people's lives. That means you can buy guns. You can have an abortion. You can take or not take an injection. And you can neuter your kid if you're stupid enough to do that.

It sounds like you're in favor of government intervention in order to save the children. That's the same argument being made by school boards who want more say than parents, and put complaining parents on terrorist watch lists.

Either the government has more say than parents or it doesn't. I don't think it should. Freedom means that people are free to do stupid, self destructive shit. If you empower the state to save people from themselves you get micromanagerial tyranny.

A Government of, by, and for the people...but the people are retarded.

You sound like an ideologue. If you understood humans, especially in this multi-cultural, multi-ethnic experiment in the West, you'd know that's not feasible and actually quite harmful.

There MUST be laws, statutes, codes of ethics and morals universally agreed upon that we follow for a healthy thriving society and to keep it to the subject I was speaking on, minors permanently damaging themselves definitely falls under that scope.

This idea would have been scoffed at 30 years ago and now we have people like you ok with it for freedom's sake. NO. This isn't freedom, this is an abomination and if you can't see that, you need help like the fucking weirdos that support this shit. Being indifferent in situations like these is the same as supporting it and that's exactly why yes, we need laws limiting this shit to adults that want to hack themselves up because again, the people are retarded.

Tell me one successful nation-state where your approach has been successful? I'll wait...Guns....in the Constitution... Homo unions, abortion, and children "transitioning" all traditionally frowned upon and banned throughout history. I think they had it right. 😒  These actions/behaviors have proven to be a detriment to society. Morally, ethically and socially.

Your all or nothing approach in regards to freedom is not practical or reasonable when governing a country.
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Re: Canadian commercial for suicide.
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2022, 08:04:21 PM »
A Government of, by, and for the people...but the people are retarded.

You sound like an ideologue. If you understood humans, especially in this multi-cultural, multi-ethnic experiment in the West, you'd know that's not feasible and actually quite harmful.

There MUST be laws, statutes, codes of ethics and morals universally agreed upon that we follow for a healthy thriving society and to keep it to the subject I was speaking on, minors permanently damaging themselves definitely falls under that scope.

This idea would have been scoffed at 30 years ago and now we have people like you ok with it for freedom's sake. NO. This isn't freedom, this is an abomination and if you can't see that, you need help like the fucking weirdos that support this shit. Being indifferent in situations like these is the same as supporting it and that's exactly why yes, we need laws limiting this shit to adults that want to hack themselves up because again, the people are retarded.

Tell me one successful nation-state where your approach has been successful? I'll wait...Guns....in the Constitution... Homo unions, abortion, and children "transitioning" all traditionally frowned upon and banned throughout history. I think they had it right. 😒  These actions/behaviors have proven to be a detriment to society. Morally, ethically and socially.

Your all or nothing approach in regards to freedom is not practical or reasonable when governing a country.

Correct: A lawless society isn’t a free society. It’s an anarchist society 

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Re: Canadian commercial for suicide.
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2022, 09:06:40 PM »
What I support is the government staying the hell out of people's lives. That means you can buy guns. You can have an abortion. You can take or not take an injection. And you can neuter your kid if you're stupid enough to do that.

It sounds like you're in favor of government intervention in order to save the children. That's the same argument being made by school boards who want more say than parents, and put complaining parents on terrorist watch lists.

Either the government has more say than parents or it doesn't. I don't think it should. Freedom means that people are free to do stupid, self destructive shit. If you empower the state to save people from themselves you get micromanagerial tyranny.

So if a parent wants to starve their child or beat them daily - maybe wants to sexually abuse them - the government should stay the fck out of their lives????

I am the most libertarian person and I agree with most of what you point out. But there must be protection for those who can’t protect themselves.

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« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2022, 11:59:56 PM »
A Government of, by, and for the people...but the people are retarded.

You sound like an ideologue. If you understood humans, especially in this multi-cultural, multi-ethnic experiment in the West, you'd know that's not feasible and actually quite harmful.

There MUST be laws, statutes, codes of ethics and morals universally agreed upon that we follow for a healthy thriving society and to keep it to the subject I was speaking on, minors permanently damaging themselves definitely falls under that scope.

This idea would have been scoffed at 30 years ago and now we have people like you ok with it for freedom's sake. NO. This isn't freedom, this is an abomination and if you can't see that, you need help like the fucking weirdos that support this shit. Being indifferent in situations like these is the same as supporting it and that's exactly why yes, we need laws limiting this shit to adults that want to hack themselves up because again, the people are retarded.

Tell me one successful nation-state where your approach has been successful? I'll wait...Guns....in the Constitution... Homo unions, abortion, and children "transitioning" all traditionally frowned upon and banned throughout history. I think they had it right. 😒  These actions/behaviors have proven to be a detriment to society. Morally, ethically and socially.

Your all or nothing approach in regards to freedom is not practical or reasonable when governing a country.

I heard "It's for the good of society and we're all in this together" plenty during the jab mandates. I'm not joining any club where I'm compelled to be a member.

The solution you're looking for is social. A community of people who think transing kids is sick (which it is) doesn't need a law against it.

We agree it's bad. We just don't agree on whether the government should ban it. They certainly shouldn't be promoting or subsidizing it, which they are.

If I'm being honest, I don't really give a shit about saving the children. They're not my children. If some kid and it's parents are stupid enough to let the kid play in traffic or get neutered, well, that's darwinism in action. People eat krispy kreme. They shoot heroin. They do dangerous, stupid shit and it's the natural order that they then exit. You don't need laws. Nature just solves shit.

Aren't the people you're trying to rescue the same people you're so mad at for their twisted beliefs? If you hated people with nut allergies you wouldn't ban nuts.

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« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2022, 01:05:57 AM »
So if a parent wants to starve their child or beat them daily - maybe wants to sexually abuse them - the government should stay the fck out of their lives????

I am the most libertarian person and I agree with most of what you point out. But there must be protection for those who can’t protect themselves.

There's universal agreement that starving a kid to death is wrong, but not so on the trans thing. But if you want me to play hardcore libertarian, wouldn't community disapproval and intervention take care of such an issue if there were no government agency stepping in? How about not vaccinating your kid? Isn't that endangering the child? Shall we empower the authorities to intervene?

But do you mean the national government or the state government? Or municipal? Surely not world government. I doubt you'd approve of invading Paraguay if some dude is beating his kid. That'd be a Paraguay problem. So if someone in California is transing a kid, is that a California problem? Can they be crazy all day and trans their kids in Cali if you reside in Florida, or do all the kids inside the national border need this protection?

How about outside it? I've never heard a peep from the right wing about kids dying in droves in the third world. Now all of a sudden everyone wants to save the children. A tiny handful of children who never missed a meal, got the latest playstation, and now they want their laptop class parents to sign off for a $200,000 surgery. Those are the kids we need to save. Meanwhile, in Africa...

If I cared, I'd care more about 100,000 kids dying of starvation and malaria than about some fat kid from Massachusetts who doesn't believe in biology.

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« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2022, 03:54:28 AM »

Here's the problem Jeffrey old bean, old chap. It's been expanded to the mentally ill, impoverished, and minors...


100%.

Under Canada's M.A.ID. [medical assistance in dying], it will be extended to "all Canadians aged 18+ of decision-making capacity", as of March 17th of next year [15 weeks from today].

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« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2022, 04:00:52 AM »
Can we sign up Matt C ???

Yes.

Fear of death keeps me alive. Nothing more.

There is nothing remotely scary to me about death being nothing.

With my luck, I'd be reincarnated as someone worse off.

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« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2022, 04:03:33 AM »
Yes.

Fear of death keeps me alive. Nothing more.

There is nothing remotely scary to me about death being nothing.

With my luck, I'd be reincarnated as someone worse off.
None of that directly harms someone else. Are you making a case for the government prohibiting people from doing that, or do you think it should be permitted without being promoted?

I think we need to distinguish children from consenting adults here.

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« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2022, 04:13:10 AM »
I heard "It's for the good of society and we're all in this together" plenty during the jab mandates. I'm not joining any club where I'm compelled to be a member.

The solution you're looking for is social. A community of people who think transing kids is sick (which it is) doesn't need a law against it.

We agree it's bad. We just don't agree on whether the government should ban it. They certainly shouldn't be promoting or subsidizing it, which they are.

If I'm being honest, I don't really give a shit about saving the children. They're not my children. If some kid and it's parents are stupid enough to let the kid play in traffic or get neutered, well, that's darwinism in action. People eat krispy kreme. They shoot heroin. They do dangerous, stupid shit and it's the natural order that they then exit. You don't need laws. Nature just solves shit.

Aren't the people you're trying to rescue the same people you're so mad at for their twisted beliefs? If you hated people with nut allergies you wouldn't ban nuts.

Are children allowed to get breast augmentation or various surgical interventions for non-necesssary procedures like that?

I'm all for consenting ADULTS doing things...but not children.

I think Wiggs and I both feel that even AMONG ADULTS, most aren't emotionally or mentally prepared for a lot of things.

IMO, the majority of my friends who drink and use drugs should not be doing so...

Something seems wrong to me about an 18-year-old being euthanized. But that will be legal in Canada in 15 weeks.

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« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2022, 07:05:16 AM »
Are children allowed to get breast augmentation or various surgical interventions for non-necesssary procedures like that?

I'm all for consenting ADULTS doing things...but not children.

I think Wiggs and I both feel that even AMONG ADULTS, most aren't emotionally or mentally prepared for a lot of things.

IMO, the majority of my friends who drink and use drugs should not be doing so...

Something seems wrong to me about an 18-year-old being euthanized. But that will be legal in Canada in 15 weeks.

I don't support a kid's right to trans itself without parental consent and knowledge. But if the parents are on board it's not appropriate for the government to get involved.



I can't believe I'm seeing conservatives cheer for the government sticking its nose into families 'for the betterment of society.' Right wing socialists. What events of the last few years have led you giys to think the government has any wisdom or ability to offer? On top of which, they have no interest in supporting conservative social positions.

So after you petition them to please outlaw transing kids and they ignore you and fund it with your tax dollars and put you on a terror watch list for wrongthink, what's Plan B? Beg harder?

Statist conservatives have a beaten wife vibe. "I know deep down he's a good man." No he isn't. It's time to accept it.

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Re: Canadian commercial for suicide.
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2022, 07:11:01 AM »
Yes.

Fear of death keeps me alive. Nothing more.

There is nothing remotely scary to me about death being nothing.

With my luck, I'd be reincarnated as someone worse off.

If God has any sense of humor at all, you will be reincarnated as Primehomosexual’s exercise bike seat.

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« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2022, 01:57:12 PM »
Only death is real.

Hail and Kill.

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« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2022, 02:30:42 PM »
When my youngest brother took his own life I consoled our mother that suicide was not a "mortal" sin.  How so?

In the Old Testament both Saul and Samson committed suicide.  Rather than have the Philistines (bhanky's ancestors) cut down the Anointed of the Lord, Saul took his own life by falling upon his sword.

And Samson called upon the Lord saying, "Let me die with the Philistines" and God hearing him restored his strength so that Samson tore down the temple and in doing so, took his own life along with a great many Philistines (bhanky's ancestors).


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Re: Canadian commercial for suicide.
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2022, 02:39:56 PM »
So if a parent wants to starve their child or beat them daily - maybe wants to sexually abuse them - the government should stay the fck out of their lives????

I am the most libertarian person and I agree with most of what you point out. But there must be protection for those who can’t protect themselves.

Government is already involved in starving people (inflation and higher taxes)

Also abuses children via the filth and deviance they teach in schools (same sex relations, trans culture, accepting/promoting gay relationships)


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Re: Canadian commercial for suicide.
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2022, 03:36:01 PM »
100%.

Under Canada's M.A.ID. [medical assistance in dying], it will be extended to "all Canadians aged 18+ of decision-making capacity", as of March 17th of next year [15 weeks from today].

M.A.I.D. - what a wonderful acronym.

In Deutschland: https://web.archive.org/web/20211119142411/https://www.sterbehilfe.de/sterbehilfe-nur-noch-fuer-geimpfte-und-genesene/

LOL!

I posted that from my PC using Chrome, which has a translation feature.
________________________ ________________________ ___________


EUTHANASIA ONLY FOR VACCINATED AND RECOVERED

19. November 2021

Euthanasia and the preparatory examination of the personal responsibility of our members willing to die require human closeness. But human closeness is a prerequisite and breeding ground for the transmission of the corona virus. As of today, the 2G rule applies in our club, supplemented by situation-related measures, such as quick tests before encounters in closed rooms.

In the difficult task of bringing the protection of our members, employees and doctors into a reasonable balance with the practicable organization of our everyday club life, Dr. Martin Goßmann, the head of our medical team, is on hand to advise.

More details can be found in our Code of Ethics .

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« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2022, 05:20:29 PM »
Hopefully Primefaggot can get in on this happening deal.

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« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2022, 06:31:27 AM »
If they want to die, why not have the balls to do it yourself? ???

Calvin, where's Gene?  ??? ??? ???

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Re: Canadian commercial for suicide.
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2022, 06:42:16 AM »
There's universal agreement that starving a kid to death is wrong, but not so on the trans thing. But if you want me to play hardcore libertarian, wouldn't community disapproval and intervention take care of such an issue if there were no government agency stepping in? How about not vaccinating your kid? Isn't that endangering the child? Shall we empower the authorities to intervene?

But do you mean the national government or the state government? Or municipal? Surely not world government. I doubt you'd approve of invading Paraguay if some dude is beating his kid. That'd be a Paraguay problem. So if someone in California is transing a kid, is that a California problem? Can they be crazy all day and trans their kids in Cali if you reside in Florida, or do all the kids inside the national border need this protection?

How about outside it? I've never heard a peep from the right wing about kids dying in droves in the third world. Now all of a sudden everyone wants to save the children. A tiny handful of children who never missed a meal, got the latest playstation, and now they want their laptop class parents to sign off for a $200,000 surgery. Those are the kids we need to save. Meanwhile, in Africa...

If I cared, I'd care more about 100,000 kids dying of starvation and malaria than about some fat kid from Massachusetts who doesn't believe in biology.

I think the powers of the federal government should VERY limited. Either I am a genius or everyone else who doesn’t understand this is stupid. The ENTIRE purpose for the colonies / states forming a “Union” is to provide a common defense and also provide a uniform currency (most people don’t realize that each state used to issue its own currency. I actually have a fair amount from various states).

That said - like EVERYTHING else knuckleheads over correct. It’s common fckn sense that children are not allowed to do certain things. Following your argument there should be nothing that we prohibit parents from doing if they see fit. Allowing a child to transition before their brains are even remotely close to being fully formed is stupid.

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« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2022, 02:50:45 PM »
100%.

Under Canada's M.A.ID. [medical assistance in dying], it will be extended to "all Canadians aged 18+ of decision-making capacity", as of March 17th of next year [15 weeks from today].

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11497589/Paraplegic-Canadian-veteran-says-government-caseworker-offered-euthanasia.html



Disabled Canadian Army veteran Paralympian blasts government for offering to EUTHANIZE her when she complained about how long it was taking to install stairlift at her home

Christine Gauthier testified in Canadian Parliament on Thursday

Gauthier, a paraplegic veteran, sought help getting a wheelchair lift at home

A Veterans Affairs staffer instead offered medically assisted suicide, she said

Government probe found at least four other veterans were also offered suicide

Trudeau called called the trend 'absolutely unacceptable' and vowed to end it

Euthanasia has been legal for terminally ill patients in Canada since 2016

But last year law expanded to include people with long-term disabilities

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« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2022, 07:45:44 PM »
I think the powers of the federal government should VERY limited. Either I am a genius or everyone else who doesn’t understand this is stupid. The ENTIRE purpose for the colonies / states forming a “Union” is to provide a common defense and also provide a uniform currency (most people don’t realize that each state used to issue its own currency. I actually have a fair amount from various states).

That said - like EVERYTHING else knuckleheads over correct. It’s common fckn sense that children are not allowed to do certain things. Following your argument there should be nothing that we prohibit parents from doing if they see fit. Allowing a child to transition before their brains are even remotely close to being fully formed is stupid.

Parents who would do this are definitely stupid, but you're talking about a vanishingly small number of parents and kids.

In order to protect them from themselves you would invite the government to have the final say, above that of parents?

In this hypothetical of ours, where the government isn't pushing lgbtq+ crap all the time like they do in real life, are we saying that they restrict oversight of parental decisions to sex change surgeries and exogenous hormones?

Then yeah. If that's the boundary of their involvement but it wouldn't happen that way. Same way you argued for intervention because we allow it for physical abuse, they'd claim a duty to intervene whenever harm is being done. What's harm? Well... not giving the kid every government approved pharmaceutical is you doing harm. Send the kid to a school that doesn't have a rainbow over the door, you're harming the kid. Even the opposite of what you want here. If you don't trans the child the second it says it's trans then you're harming the child, which is approximately the current government policy.

Make a deal with the government, you might as well be entering into a compact with the devil. Every "we'll protect you" ends up "now you have to do what we say." I don't know how many examples you need to see. They're gonna screw you every time.

Yes, I agree there's a cost, in the form of a few loonies who will spend the rest of their lives being walking advertisements for sticking with your born sex, if we don't hand over parental decisions to the apparatus of the state, and the state is anti-trans. Would you, in turn, agree that there's also potentially a cost in giving more power to people who surveil our every communication (including these posts), routinely lie about very consequential shit, and have an established record of not giving a single fuck about you?



An occasional trans kid doesn't justify the government taking over family decisions. I'm shocked to see conservatives so easily tricked into inviting the state into their home.

I think they want a freebie. They want a law which reflects their values and changes other people's lives but which leaves them unaffected. But if this is actually important, then how much would you pay? Would you accept a weekly interview in your living room with a social worker if no more kids got transed? Monthly? How about just your kid has to sit down with a government child welfare agent once a month at school and talk about how it's all going at home. If the social worker isn't satisfied, agents could put cameras throughout your house. If child welfare is important, let's talk about what sort of protection programs people would support. Safe to say that someone who wants daily interviews and cameras in every home cares more about kids than someone who says no to government monitors. We have to save the children, right?

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Re: Canadian commercial for suicide.
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2022, 10:54:28 PM »
satan and his clown world want every human being marred, dead and damned to hell before they can accept Christ and attain salvation - mans only hope.

humanity is fast approaching (if not past) the point of no return.. and time is growing ever faster.

non reprobates might wanna get with the program asap.

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« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2022, 12:29:19 AM »
satan and his clown world want every human being marred, dead and damned to hell before they can accept Christ and attain salvation - mans only hope.

humanity is fast approaching (if not past) the point of no return.. and time is growing ever faster.

non reprobates might wanna get with the program asap.

Not sure what you mean.

You want there to be laws compelling right choice or no laws but people make good choices all on their own?

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« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2022, 01:47:28 AM »

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« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2022, 03:23:48 PM »