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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: rangerwil on July 04, 2017, 06:19:34 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BWIwjBVHvEH/?taken-by=team3ccbostin
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Haha but what about good ol joe pitonorni on here and his dumb bodybuilding online magazine
Didn't he hire Boston Lloyd to write a column??
According to good ol joe he was the best thing since sliced bread!
What happened joe??? Hahahahaha
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i would guess a health scare. if it is i hope he's as honest about it as he is with his drug use
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I hope he is NOT dying.
Recover Bostonian.
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He's probably just burnt out. When you run high doses of a lot of compounds you tend to burn out mentally... games come easily so it gets kind of boring because there's no challenge and you kind of lose interest because there's nothing left to try steroid hormone wise as well how high dosages... so you're just kind of run out of things to do to keep your interest and you get burnt out. Happened to me in 04 and "retired" from training hardcore and just used her doses. He'll be back innabout 6months most likely
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I find his stupidity and recklessness disturbing....but he confirms all prejudices about bodybuilders! That must be worth something
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He's probably just burnt out. When you run high doses of a lot of compounds you tend to burn out mentally... games come easily so it gets kind of boring because there's no challenge and you kind of lose interest because there's nothing left to try steroid hormone wise as well how high dosages... so you're just kind of run out of things to do to keep your interest and you get burnt out. Happened to me in 04 and "retired" from training hardcore and just used her doses. He'll be back innabout 6months most likely
I take it then you looked your best in 04, any photos from 04 by any chance, running all those compounds must have had you looking tremendous..
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His dad was a great bodybuilder who looked incredible on a standard early 80's cycle.
His son is a disgrace.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BWIwjBVHvEH/?taken-by=team3ccbostin
:)
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Someone asked on facebook if he's going off the special sauce, and he said he wasn't. My guess is that he needs a new buzz. His old instagram got deleted, his forum was a ghost town when someone linked it here, and his youtube was losing subs till yesterday. Now his numbers are creeping up, and a fair number of videos are being made about him.
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The Boston Loyd Experiment? Nobel-Prize in the making.
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"drug sport of bodybuilding".....
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dullstin toad
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Within 5 years no one will remember his name.
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Within 5 years no one will remember his name.
fxd
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I take it then you looked your best in 04, any photos from 04 by any chance, running all those compounds must have had you looking tremendous..
Yea I actually probably did look my best in 04, and I was still running stuff from Mexico and not nearly the doses I've run since 2011. 04 was up to mid 240s and. Lessnthan 5.5% bf heaviest i saw the scale at World Gyms 222nd floor was 247 after a full day of eating.. Likely after lunch at the all you can eat Chinese buffet across the street from the office I ran.. And nope, I don't have many pictures from that time frame. Had to cross country moves a five-year prison stint and losing everything in a storage unit when I went to prison which included hundreds of pictures Furniture my kids toys and important documents like diplomas including my exes diploma from UCLA, yearbooks,& even my class ring.
And my "retirement" came a few months after shutting things down in 04. Actually was probably on full blastabout 7g/wk when I produced my 2nd son after two 5000iu bcc shots a week apart.
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Yea I actually probably did look my best in 04, and I was still running stuff from Mexico and not nearly the doses I've run since 2011. 04 was up to mid 240s and. Lessnthan 5.5% bf heaviest i saw the scale at World Gyms 222nd floor was 247 after a full day of eating.. Likely after lunch at the all you can eat Chinese buffet across the street from the office I ran.. And nope, I don't have many pictures from that time frame. Had to cross country moves a five-year prison stint and losing everything in a storage unit when I went to prison which included hundreds of pictures Furniture my kids toys and important documents like diplomas including my exes diploma from UCLA, yearbooks,& even my class ring.
And my "retirement" came a few months after shutting things down in 04. Actually was probably on full blastabout 7g/wk when I produced my 2nd son after two 5000iu bcc shots a week apart.
so no photo then...?
No problem, Im not going to give you a hard time over it.
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That was also before cameras were on every phone and was still using a digital camera and printing them up on 4x6s and saving them on CDs. I don't know why you're asking questions you know the answers to and trying to be cute.
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so no photo then...?
No problem, Im not going to give you a hard time over it.
Reading his post, you already did.
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Boston Loyd gives out his real cycle with real dosages.
GetBig: He's a bum, Look at him! For all those drugs and he looks like that. Death Sentence. Complete idiot.
Lee Priest gives out what he took: Wheat Grass, 50mg of Winstrol 3x weekly, Deca 2x Weekly.
GetBig: Lee is awesome. Great Responder. That's the difference between a pro and an amateur. Amazing. Where's Booty?
Nonsense.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That was also before cameras were on every phone and was still using a digital camera and printing them up on 4x6s and saving them on CDs. I don't know why you're asking questions you know the answers to and trying to be cute.
Was also 2004 and people weren't taking selfies and progress pictures four times a day and I wasn't thinking or should I should take a picture of this so I can show some random loser on the internet who has no impact on my life whatsoever 10 12 14 years down the road
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Was also 2004 and people weren't taking selfies and progress pictures four times a day and I wasn't thinking or should I should take a picture of this so I can show some random loser on the internet who has no impact on my life whatsoever 10 12 14 years down the road
I WAS AT THAT CONTEST AND TOOK A TON OF PICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I took a ton of photos with my Kodak Disc but I can't find a place to develop them at.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I WAS AT THAT CONTEST AND TOOK A TON OF PICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I took a ton of photos with my Kodak Disc but I can't find a place to develop them at.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol
now this actually was kinda funny
btw, how's Roy ???
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lol
now this actually was kinda funny
btw, how's Roy ???
No humour here. I actually have 7 discs waiting to be developed. I originally brought my One Step but it malfunctioned. The " Roy" you speak of was an old assistant of mine who had a hard time on a computer keyboard. Her strengths were shorthand and I really didn't have a need for that. She completed her internship with me and is now working for Chase Manhattan.
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Boston Loyd gives out his real cycle with real dosages.
GetBig: He's a bum, Look at him! For all those drugs and he looks like that. Death Sentence. Complete idiot.
Lee Priest gives out what he took: Wheat Grass, 50mg of Winstrol 3x weekly, Deca 2x Weekly.
GetBig: Lee is awesome. Great Responder. That's the difference between a pro and an amateur. Amazing. Where's Booty?
Nonsense.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope. People still call Priest "Liar Lee".
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what a bunch of sheep some of you are
IT'S ALL A WORK
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This his blood work?
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Granted, BUN and creatinine are a big problem there, but don't you think those ranges on red blood are too strict? I would not consider those hematocrit and hemoglobin values HIGH????
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Granted, BUN and creatinine are a big problem there, but don't you think those ranges on red blood are too strict? I would not consider those hematocrit and hemoglobin values HIGH????
Thats kidney failure numbers. He will require dialysis or transplant now
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Yea I actually probably did look my best in 04, and I was still running stuff from Mexico and not nearly the doses I've run since 2011. 04 was up to mid 240s and. Lessnthan 5.5% bf heaviest i saw the scale at World Gyms 222nd floor was 247 after a full day of eating.. Likely after lunch at the all you can eat Chinese buffet across the street from the office I ran.. And nope, I don't have many pictures from that time frame. Had to cross country moves a five-year prison stint and losing everything in a storage unit when I went to prison which included hundreds of pictures Furniture my kids toys and important documents like diplomas including my exes diploma from UCLA, yearbooks,& even my class ring.
And my "retirement" came a few months after shutting things down in 04. Actually was probably on full blastabout 7g/wk when I produced my 2nd son after two 5000iu bcc shots a week apart.
At that body weight and body fat levels, u are walking around almost competition ready
"Less than 5.5% bf"
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At that body weight and body fat levels, u are walking around almost competition ready
"Less than 5.5% bf"
Yep. Planned on doing border states championships that yr.
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Yep. Planned on doing border states championships that yr.
Seems like this thread is not really about you.
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Hes not done with it at all...
Not wasting money on extremes is the tl:dr
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Seems like this thread is not really about you.
Never was. Don't be so insecure
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another guy who was "contest ready"...."5.5% body fat".....and somehow took no pictures, as if cameras didnt exist then. the only thing you are good for is excuses
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another guy who was "contest ready"...."5.5% body fat".....and somehow took no pictures, as if cameras didnt exist then. the only thing you are good for is excuses
I didntnsay "contest ready". Those werent my wprds. I wasnpreparing for the border states in Sept and was probablynaheasnof schedule when I did the under water bf at ucsd in I believe early july. I don't need What the big deal is. Bbing is more than scale weight and body fat %. Wasn't even 'dieting' hard. Just trainingb andconsistantly and actually being consistant with the drugs and force-feeding myself and being strict with nutrition. Then2 things that have always held me back. I getblazy with the drugs and skip shots or oral dose.. But mostly shot and i like to eat "regular" food. my diet usually resembles that of a second grader or a kid in high school or whatever. Pizza Hut dogs macaroni and cheese cream filled Donuts peanut butter sandwiches mashed potatoes with tons of butter lots of Italian Hamburger Helper pastas bagels and cream cheese Eggo waffles etc.. in that. I was force-feeding myself dry chicken breasts white rice and baked potatoes with no butter or sour cream all day and oatmeal with no milk or sugar/brown sugar/maple syrup like usual.. I was miserable and always in a bad mood and always stressed out with work and my relationship suffered
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I didntnsay "contest ready". Those werent my wprds. I wasnpreparing for the border states in Sept and was probablynaheasnof schedule when I did the under water bf at ucsd in I believe early july. I don't need What the big deal is. Bbing is more than scale weight and body fat %. Wasn't even 'dieting' hard. Just trainingb andconsistantly and actually being consistant with the drugs and force-feeding myself and being strict with nutrition. Then2 things that have always held me back. I getblazy with the drugs and skip shots or oral dose.. But mostly shot and i like to eat "regular" food. my diet usually resembles that of a second grader or a kid in high school or whatever. Pizza Hut dogs macaroni and cheese cream filled Donuts peanut butter sandwiches mashed potatoes with tons of butter lots of Italian Hamburger Helper pastas bagels and cream cheese Eggo waffles etc.. in that. I was force-feeding myself dry chicken breasts white rice and baked potatoes with no butter or sour cream all day and oatmeal with no milk or sugar/brown sugar/maple syrup like usual.. I was miserable and always in a bad mood and always stressed out with work and my relationship suffered
make your mind up....
You need to just concentrate on the prescription meds threads, that seems to be your area of expertise.
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I didntnsay "contest ready". Those werent my wprds. I wasnpreparing for the border states in Sept and was probablynaheasnof schedule when I did the under water bf at ucsd in I believe early july. I don't need What the big deal is. Bbing is more than scale weight and body fat %. Wasn't even 'dieting' hard. Just trainingb andconsistantly and actually being consistant with the drugs and force-feeding myself and being strict with nutrition. Then2 things that have always held me back. I getblazy with the drugs and skip shots or oral dose.. But mostly shot and i like to eat "regular" food. my diet usually resembles that of a second grader or a kid in high school or whatever. Pizza Hut dogs macaroni and cheese cream filled Donuts peanut butter sandwiches mashed potatoes with tons of butter lots of Italian Hamburger Helper pastas bagels and cream cheese Eggo waffles etc.. in that. I was force-feeding myself dry chicken breasts white rice and baked potatoes with no butter or sour cream all day and oatmeal with no milk or sugar/brown sugar/maple syrup like usual.. I was miserable and always in a bad mood and always stressed out with work and my relationship suffered
Not going to get into all this but 5 percent bf is pretty much contest ready, a legit 5 u are shredded, cheekbones sunken in, striations everywhere
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Not going to get into all this but 5 percent bf is pretty much contest ready, a legit 5 u are shredded, cheekbones sunken in, striations everywhere
Yea but i got leaner after that. Contest was still 2 months away and I got sick about 3 weeks after.y body doesn't handle stess well and have problems with my pancreas and digestive problems and that was also the only time I've ever had problems with my kidneys. Was in the hospital 3x that year ending with a 10day stay in Dec.l
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Yea but i got leaner after that. Contest was still 2 months away and I got sick about 3 weeks after.y body doesn't handle stess well and have problems with my pancreas and digestive problems and that was also the only time I've ever had problems with my kidneys. Was in the hospital 3x that year ending with a 10day stay in Dec.l
How many grams were u running and what compounds?
Scary situation to be in
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How many grams were u running and what compounds?
Scary situation to be in
Only about 7g. 3.5g being test, then a lot of tren, then eq, either QV or PetPharma anadrol and Stenox... With some zambon winstrol amps, cynomel and proviron...and about 45-65iu insulin /day total
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Only about 7g. 3.5g being test, then a lot of tren, then eq, either QV or PetPharma anadrol and Stenox... With some zambon winstrol amps, cynomel and proviron...and about 45-65iu insulin /day total
:o
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Only about 7g. 3.5g being test, then a lot of tren, then eq, either QV or PetPharma anadrol and Stenox... With some zambon winstrol amps, cynomel and proviron...and about 45-65iu insulin /day total
That's a lot. Ever run gh?
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Only about 7g. 3.5g being test, then a lot of tren, then eq, either QV or PetPharma anadrol and Stenox... With some zambon winstrol amps, cynomel and proviron...and about 45-65iu insulin /day total
;D
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Only about 7g. 3.5g being test, then a lot of tren, then eq, either QV or PetPharma anadrol and Stenox... With some zambon winstrol amps, cynomel and proviron...and about 45-65iu insulin /day total
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As predicted and expected.
One life - Live it, don't fuck it up for a few years of internet fame
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Looks like Bostin is really done. This thread is not even about him. Lol
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Only about 7g. 3.5g being test, then a lot of tren, then eq, either QV or PetPharma anadrol and Stenox... With some zambon winstrol amps, cynomel and proviron...and about 45-65iu insulin /day total
Zambon doesn't do winstrol anymore. They stopped a decade ago.
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Zambon doesn't do winstrol anymore. They stopped a decade ago.
this was his stack in 2004 ;)
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Zambon doesn't do winstrol anymore. They stopped a decade ago.
Yea, this was in 2004. I'm not even sure if they still make stenox/halotestin
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this was his stack in 2004 ;)
Plus it didn't really happen.
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ESFitness...you're really annoying.
The way you hijack threads is fucking even more annoying.
Is this website all you do in life?
Trying to get your post count numbers up? Is there NOTHING more for you?
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Kidneys failing?
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Yes back to Boston Lloyd rather than some dusty border town in 2004. Sorry, I don't have patience to follow Bostin directly on social media, so getbig is my CNN. Here are my questions: anything serious going on or just media strategy? Why doesn't a sensible father have influence over a goofy son?
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If you watch the video he said he sent Dave(Palumbo?) his numbers and he claimed rhey were not that bad for what he is running. This is the definition of delusional. A 6.5 creatinine puts him around 10% kidney function. Muscle mass may skew that creatinine number a bit, but he is fried no doubt. In the video he says he still feels great. He's a handful of ibuprofen away from really feeling it.
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If you watch the video he said he sent Dave(Palumbo?) his numbers and he claimed rhey were not that bad for what he is running. This is the definition of delusional. A 6.5 creatinine puts him around 10% kidney function. Muscle mass may skew that creatinine number a bit, but he is fried no doubt. In the video he says he still feels great. He's a handful of ibuprofen away from really feeling it.
Were those truly his labs posted above?
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Yes back to Boston Lloyd rather than some dusty border town in 2004. Sorry, I don't have patience to follow Bostin directly on social media, so getbig is my CNN. Here are my questions: anything serious going on or just media strategy? Why doesn't a sensible father have influence over a goofy son?
He is actually quite sensible here. He is cutting back on the drugs since he found megadosing, especially gh, yielded zero gains over a years time. He will continue on but using more classic cycles, fewer compounds, without doing a ton of peptides 5 times a day. He will try to get gf pregnant without going off roids, doing an hcg/hmg stack, but if it fails he will come off. Save your money if you aren't in the genetic elite is his advice, don't take out loans to finance a failing endeavor.
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Were those truly his labs posted above?
Good question. He never says in the video, I never heard him say it anyway. I assumed it was though with the comment about showing his bad numbers to Dave.
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He is actually quite sensible here. He is cutting back on the drugs since he found megadosing, especially gh, yielded zero gains over a years time. He will continue on but using more classic cycles, fewer compounds, without doing a ton of peptides 5 times a day. He will try to get gf pregnant without going off roids, doing an hcg/hmg stack, but if it fails he will come off. Save your money if you aren't in the genetic elite is his advice, don't take out loans to finance a failing endeavor.
Thnx, journalistically succinct. If those labs are relevant, is a creatinine/BUN situation like that potentially quickly reversible? I had a deep gfr situation which flipped back to normal in 6 months, but those particular labs look pretty severe?
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Only about 7g. 3.5g being test, then a lot of tren, then eq, either QV or PetPharma anadrol and Stenox... With some zambon winstrol amps, cynomel and proviron...and about 45-65iu insulin /day total
lol.
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Sure hope that isn't his bloodwork. His kidneys are in extremely bad shape. That creatinine level is about what Tom Prince's was when he was admitted to the hospital for kidney failure. That's not you need to slow down range or your looking bad range. That is get to the ER because you are dying range literally.
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ESFitness...you're really annoying.
The way you hijack threads is fucking even more annoying.
Is this website all you do in life?
Trying to get your post count numbers up? Is there NOTHING more for you?
I posted something and ppl troll afterward. How is other peoples trolling my problem? If they really wanted to know, they'd ask me in a PM, but instead they want to argue and derail threads. Ain't my problem. Are you listening to these on headphones with some text-to-speech program for the blind and youre forced to listen to? If not, use your eyes and skip over then shit youndont want to read, or better yet, post something related to the topic and keep moving
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Insane how much hate this dude gets...what I don't understand is why people who on getbig who understand schtick, don't relate to the guy. I love BL, he's probably the only one out there being semi honest.
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PIP
In general, normal BUN levels fall in the following ranges:
adult men: 8 to 20 mg/dL
Higher BUN levels can indicate:
congestive heart failure or recent heart attack
gastrointestinal bleeding
high protein levels
kidney disease
kidney failure
dehydration
obstruction in the urinary tract
shock
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MANIAC, I agree with ya 98.9% regarding your statement about Bostin.
I would agree with ya 100% .... but Bostin is not the only one out there being honest.
But complete honestly is a rarity within the world of lifting heavy things.
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Thnx, journalistically succinct. If those labs are relevant, is a creatinine/BUN situation like that potentially quickly reversible? I had a deep gfr situation which flipped back to normal in 6 months, but those particular labs look pretty severe?
It's highly unlikely that he managed to push himself into chronic renal failure in five years, even with all the megadosing. Acute kidney injury is a possibility, and that's usually reversible depending on the cause & severity .. even with a full recovery, it does increase the chance of developing ESRD down the road
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He said he's never coming off gear
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Insane how much hate this dude gets...what I don't understand is why people who on getbig who understand schtick, don't relate to the guy. I love BL, he's probably the only one out there being semi honest.
He embodies most of what we hate in generation nothingness. The hats. The tight pants, the obsession with drug abuse over long term health... Negative IQ. Etc
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I don't follow these Fitness Social Media MegaStars as closely as the rest of you kids but isn't Bostin Loyd and that other guy Derrick Anthony related somehow? I just checked that guys Insta and he looks very much like Derrick did.
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I don't follow these Fitness Social Media MegaStars as closely as the rest of you kids but isn't Bostin Loyd and that other guy Derrick Anthony related somehow? I just checked that guys Insta and he looks very much like Derrick did.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, the looks would only be a coincidence. DA New York area. BL Northern CA. Bostin is son of Classic Bodybuilder John Lloyd.
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when did boston compete last?
there are a few comp photos where he looks pretty solid (his purple posing trunks - i have a good memory - no homo)
the dude got stuck in an epic loop of excessive behavior/risk after his video went viral. his 1 year transformation...he had to continue that and well the show is over.
him and Piana are some of the sports loudest voices today - 16-30 year old crowd
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It's highly unlikely that he managed to push himself into chronic renal failure in five years, even with all the megadosing. Acute kidney injury is a possibility, and that's usually reversible depending on the cause & severity .. even with a full recovery, it does increase the chance of developing ESRD down the road
If he had acute renal failure he would feel it. He said he felt great, so you have to go with that which would align with chronic renal failure as his body has adapted to the toxins over time. Most don't even know they are at that stage until they have been their a while. Once he starts to lose his appetite or potassium climbs, it's game over.
And it is entirely possible for him to fry himself in 5 years. Grams upon grams of AAS, synthol and maybe a genetic predisposition. With the availability of AAS and the non stop cycles guys run now, this kidney thing will be an epidemic soon. But he's living in denial right now thinking he can just lower the dose and be okay. He would need to come off completely, lose 50 pounds, lower protein drastically, not workout and then hope for the best.
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This YouTube by Bostin's mother humanizes the situation. Looks like, as with Sergio Jr., son is closer to the the bodybuilder mother than to bodybuilder father. By the way, if anybody thinks us California people don't have accents, listen to this woman's CA tone of voice:
I wish Bostin the best
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Sorry - Google Bostin Loyd mother if video does not come up.
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If he had acute renal failure he would feel it. He said he felt great, so you have to go with that which would align with chronic renal failure as his body has adapted to the toxins over time. Most don't even know they are at that stage until they have been their a while. Once he starts to lose his appetite or potassium climbs, it's game over.
And it is entirely possible for him to fry himself in 5 years. Grams upon grams of AAS, synthol and maybe a genetic predisposition. With the availability of AAS and the non stop cycles guys run now, this kidney thing will be an epidemic soon. But he's living in denial right now thinking he can just lower the dose and be okay. He would need to come off completely, lose 50 pounds, lower protein drastically, not workout and then hope for the best.
If your kidneys are failing you feel like shit period. The body doesn't really "adapt" to the electrolyte imbalances, fluid overload, azotemia, and everything else that comes with it - be it stemming from an acute kidney injury or chronic progression of renal disease. I don't really expect Bostin to be forthright about how he's feeling, so speculating on that is dumb
Is it possible to develop chronic kidney disease in 5 years? Maybe but it's unlikely .. assuming the labs posted above are actually his, it's far more likely that the high BUN/creatinine is from some type of AKI.
Anythings possible though
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Actually after doing an internet search, those don't appear to be his bloods. I noticed a few of the values "ranges that were considered normal" were off so it appears it is from a vet clinic somewhere. Like I though, he would be in the hospital right now if that was his real bloodwork.
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If he gets off the sauce the girlfriend will leave with his muscles , unless she has changed which will be interesting.
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Thats kidney failure numbers. He will require dialysis or transplant now
You do not have a clue what you are talking about. "Require dialysis or transplant now. " oh brother.
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Haha
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This kids an idiot.
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Speaking of bad blood work, remember Piana's ex on here, how she said Piana had some blood work done and it was alarming, kidney and liver values way off. The doc said he needed additional tests to see what's going on but Rich never went back nor stopped drugging. This was naybe 10 years ago? And dude is still standing.
Found it
Rich doesnt have health insurance & he thinks he is superman and never gets sicks, etc. Well last year he was really sick & it is unlike him to stay in bed for days, not train & to cancel on his clients. So I was worried, I was in FL & I flew to CA & I brought him to the ER. Long story short he was at UCLA for almost 2 weeks, his appendix burst & he was walking around like that for 2 weeks before I flew down & took him to ER. Since he doesnt have insurance he seriously hadent been to the dr, not even for a physical in over 20 years so when they did some basic testing, scans & blood work he was in for a rude awakening. OMG. Majot kidney and liver problems, his heart is obviously enlarged & he was given strict instructions and follow up orders, etc with specialists & his response was " he doesnt need to see anyone, he will be fine, Arnold was on dialyasis for years & he is running CA so he will be fine" etc. So, he never went back for a follow up & this was over a year ago.
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Speaking of bad blood work, remember Piana's ex on here, how she said Piana had some blood work done and it was alarming, kidney and liver values way off. The doc said he needed additional tests to see what's going on but Rich never went back nor stopped drugging. This was naybe 10 years ago? And dude is still standing.
Found it
What is meant about Arnold was on dialysis for years? Once on dialysis always on dialysis until you get a transplant or die. And why wasn't this public knowledge? No way someone like Arnold could be on dialysis and keep it a secret. Unlike the liver, the kidneys don't get better and regenerate.
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I've known guys who were on dialysis for a few days to s few weeks and were done. When I went to rehab the first time another bodybuilder came in the same day at the exact same time I did so we were doing our intake stuff at the same time and I didn't get a chance to speak to him until late afternoon or evening it was pretty obvious speaking with him that he was way way way fucked up on meth and I think it's heroin head run out but he was super super spun out. He's a little bit taller maybe 6 with 3 and I'm up 240 lb but he was lean and vascular and Vascular the Cavs four arms arms Etc and the staff finally gave him a bunch of Psych drugs to put him to sleep at night so they had to check on him throughout the night and when I woke up the next morning he was gone and found out from the staff that they checked on him at like 4 or 5 a.m. and saw his face was swelling up like a pumpkin and they called the EMTs and took him to the hospital and he stayed in the hospital for a week or two on dialysis because of kidney failure. Saw him again maybe three weeks later at an AA meeting one night looking back to normal... Damn rehab place freaked out and decided to run a whole bunch of extra test on me as well because me and him look like brothers and we both used steroids so they thought I was going to have the same problems he had and they didn't want to get sued or be held liable.
After I got out that dude went on to be a customer for over a year now and has not had a problem with his kidneys sense
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I just listened to Palumbo interview Bostin and my conclusion is that video was just Facebook publicity. He is still massively on the gear for some video in the works.
Talk about having half a brain. Palumbo gives him advice about pregnancy stuff and it is ignored. Then he knocks Lee Priest. Foolish young man. Lee
knows much more than he will ever know about bodybuilding.
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I've known guys who were on dialysis for a few days to s few weeks and were done. When I went to rehab the first time another bodybuilder came in the same day at the exact same time I did so we were doing our intake stuff at the same time and I didn't get a chance to speak to him until late afternoon or evening it was pretty obvious speaking with him that he was way way way fucked up on meth and I think it's heroin head run out but he was super super spun out. He's a little bit taller maybe 6 with 3 and I'm up 240 lb but he was lean and vascular and Vascular the Cavs four arms arms Etc and the staff finally gave him a bunch of Psych drugs to put him to sleep at night so they had to check on him throughout the night and when I woke up the next morning he was gone and found out from the staff that they checked on him at like 4 or 5 a.m. and saw his face was swelling up like a pumpkin and they called the EMTs and took him to the hospital and he stayed in the hospital for a week or two on dialysis because of kidney failure. Saw him again maybe three weeks later at an AA meeting one night looking back to normal... Damn rehab place freaked out and decided to run a whole bunch of extra test on me as well because me and him look like brothers and we both used steroids so they thought I was going to have the same problems he had and they didn't want to get sued or be held liable.
After I got out that dude went on to be a customer for over a year now and has not had a problem with his kidneys sense
I always thought anabolic hormones primarily effect the liver, especially orals. Are there any compounds in particular that effect the kidneys?
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I always thought anabolic hormones primarily effect the liver, especially orals. Are there any compounds in particular that effect the kidneys?
I suppose the relative toxicity of each compound has a part to play, but perhaps the main culprit here is the increased - and of course sustained - level of lean body mass that a BB using PEDs would carry..?
This 10yr old paper states:
"Reports of professional athletes who abuse anabolic steroids are increasingly common. Most people know that using steroids is not good for your health, but until now, their effects on the kidneys have not been known. Leal Herlitz, MD (Columbia University Medical Center) and her colleagues recently conducted the first study describing injury to the kidneys following long-term abuse of anabolic steroids. The investigators studied a group of 10 bodybuilders who used steroids for many years and developed protein leakage into the urine and severe reductions in kidney function.
Kidney tests revealed that nine of the ten bodybuilders developed a condition called focal segmental glomerulosclerosis*, a type of scarring within the kidneys. This disease typically occurs when the kidneys are overworked. The kidney damage in the bodybuilders has similarities to that seen in morbidly obese patients, but appears to be even more severe."
* by amazing coincidence, FSG is the 'rare hereditary condition' that Flex Wheeler had - well whaddya kno!?!
American Society of Nephrology. "Bodybuilding With Steroids Damages Kidneys." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 30 October 2009.
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091029141202.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091029141202.htm)
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What is meant about Arnold was on dialysis for years? Once on dialysis always on dialysis until you get a transplant or die. And why wasn't this public knowledge? No way someone like Arnold could be on dialysis and keep it a secret. Unlike the liver, the kidneys don't get better and regenerate.
I think he just came up with some BS to calm the woman down. I guess it's possible he thinks Arnold was on dialysis, when afaik he only had some genetic heart issue.
I always thought anabolic hormones primarily effect the liver, especially orals. Are there any compounds in particular that effect the kidneys?
There's been some newer research suggesting androgens have a direct effect on the kidneys. How much that has contributed to some bb'ers kidney issues is hard to say since so many walk around with high untreated blood pressure. One fella said this on promuscle, sounds reasonable to me:
I've seen a lot of sick people over the last 25 years. I'm trying to remember who I've seen with CKD, or more specifically CKD requiring dialysis, without comorbid hypertension or a genetic pathology. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I'm just saying I'm having trouble thinking of that person right now. Maybe I've never seen it, which is my point. This includes bodybuilders I've met or known on some personal level like Don Long (HTN, diuretics), Beau Baisden (HTN, diuretics, partying in Vegas :headbang:), Tom Prince (NSAIDs + HTN + diuretics), Flex Wheeler (HTN + diuretics), Dan Duchaine (polycystic kidney disease), Mike Morris (HTN, diuretics) and regular run of the mill people I've treated in the old charity hospital system in South Louisiana to the most privileged at Cedars Sinai. They all have HTN = hypertension usually coupled with something else. NSAID abuse, diuretic abuse, cocaine abuse, all of the above, etc.
My point is, monitor your BP yourself at home regularly with a reliable cuff and keep in check. Risk begins over 115 systolic. If you have some measure of CAD already this may to be too low for you and you would aim higher, 120-130. Don't do stupid shit like take 3 grams of ibuprofen per day (Prince) or snort an 8 ball of coke in a night the weekend of the O (Beau) on top of your untreated hypertension (all of them). Avoid loop diuretics like Lasix and Demedex (Chad Nicholls' choice - Prince, Flex). Use Aldactone sparingly pre contest only as needed if you must use a diuretic. Do not use it to look better for guest posing or Vegas pool parties like I've known a lot these guys to do. If you are a water logged fuck you're probably fat anyway. How many water logged fucks have you known that shoot Lasix or take Demedex come in shredded and win the show as a result? Almost never happens. I'm not saying it can't, I'm just saying I'm having trouble thinking of that person right now.
Avoid any and all of that and you will have a hard time convincing me that you have to worry about the direct affect of androgens on the kidneys aka androgenic nephrotoxicity. Show me a guy with a BP of 106/65 for example with CKD. It will be very diifficult to find this person.
Rex.
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If he had acute renal failure he would feel it. He said he felt great, so you have to go with that which would align with chronic renal failure as his body has adapted to the toxins over time. Most don't even know they are at that stage until they have been their a while. Once he starts to lose his appetite or potassium climbs, it's game over.
And it is entirely possible for him to fry himself in 5 years. Grams upon grams of AAS, synthol and maybe a genetic predisposition. With the availability of AAS and the non stop cycles guys run now, this kidney thing will be an epidemic soon. But he's living in denial right now thinking he can just lower the dose and be okay. He would need to come off completely, lose 50 pounds, lower protein drastically, not workout and then hope for the best.
Why stop working out too ?
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I always thought anabolic hormones primarily effect the liver, especially orals. Are there any compounds in particular that effect the kidneys?
Blood pressure generally... That guy I mentioned was in rehab after a 2 week bender-relapse on heroin and meth iv. Which I'm sure led to his kidney failure
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Why stop working out too ?
Too drop muscle. Having damaged kidneys and carrying 100 pounds extra muscle can't be good.
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You do not have a clue what you are talking about. "Require dialysis or transplant now. " oh brother.
Assuming this is his actual bloodwork. I should have claified further or explained better. Having a high creatinine in and of itself does not mean he needs dialysis. But, as I mentioned earlier, if his potassium climbs uncontrollably, he goes into metabolic acidosis and develops overwhelming lethargy, he will need it. It's dependent on the individual on how much they can handle. But past that his BUN is extremely high and he is at risk of a uremic coma. Make no mistake, that is kidney failure numbers. He may delay it for a while, but you can't stop what's coming.
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aaaand... he has kidney failure
old thread about the dummy http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=502785.0
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This shit is demented.^.. also Taking advice from beaus baisden???
I suppose it's amazing Bostins kidneys lasted this long.
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So he's been talking to Don Long and Beau Baisden...
Wonder why... ::)
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Done ???
When did he begin?
Kid`s done jackshit in the sport except push excessive drug use and fuck up his organs.
The term "done" almost implies that his long illustrious bodybuilding career is coming to an end.
::)
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So - a whole bottle of this a day for 30 days seems to have been the culprit...
https://peptideguide.com/peptides/adipotide/ (https://peptideguide.com/peptides/adipotide/)
Oh, and monumental stupidity, of course
(Hmm... now where's that Deadpool thread got to..?)
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Hahaha what an idiot!
And Fouad, the bastard blames it on working too much hahaha, yeah, always bragging about being 260+ pounds at 5’4. Sure, not even competing but blasting so much gear and staying too heavy
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He said he still regrets nothing! Really?
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He said he still regrets nothing! Really?
Pure narcissistic, self absorbed attitude. And this guy I believe has kids too.
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He said he still regrets nothing! Really?
He seems pretty relaxed about it on the surface
Says that 'Nocturnal Home Dialysis' is the answer (smh)
https://homedialysis.org/home-dialysis-basics/nocturnal-home-hemodialysis (https://homedialysis.org/home-dialysis-basics/nocturnal-home-hemodialysis)
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It’s all a joke until it isn’t.
This guy’s always been a clown.
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Just has to get his blood cleaned once in a while, no big deal.
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I’m going to go against the consensus here and say I
Like the kid! ...( he’s entertaining ) Piana also ... they have (had) personality’s ... and could make me laugh hope he gets his kidney issues figured out!
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Trust me I`ve been sick...........he`s as scared as scared can be
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I’m going to go against the consensus here and say I
Like the kid! ...( he’s entertaining ) Piana also ... they have (had) personality’s ... and could make me laugh hope he gets his kidney issues figured out!
Yeah, he is entertaining, entertaining like piano man before they drop dead
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They both did shit for the sport and just made it look more like the sideshow it already was.
Why dont bodybuilders today set good examples.....Lee Haney for example ?
Can you imagine Haney even remotely associating with these two shitstain fucking clowns?
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They both did shit for the sport and just made it look more like the sideshow it already was.
Why dont bodybuilders today set good examples.....Lee Haney for example ?
Can you imagine Haney even remotely associating with these two shitstain fucking clowns?
It was inevitable thing coming for Bostin, bragged about taking so much shit, reusing needles, not disinfecting anything, shooting up in the parking lot, he’s most likely going to be done for pretty soon. All for entertainment
I agree with you Wes, too many shitstains in this industry of fuck ups and degenerates
Need more Lee haney, Jay, and Lee labrada types
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Bevo my friend,the kid was the epitome of "generation nothingness" !!
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Bevo my friend,the kid was the epitome of "generation nothingness" !!
Fully agree.
Although, Wes, you were a smoker I believe, (which I think you admit now was also an very idiotic thing to have done). Lets see how Bostin progresses. I suspect he has done life long damage - bloody idiot he is. Still, he avoided legal issues to date, (unless he snitched which is possible) so that's something.
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Fully agree.
Although, Wes, you were a smoker I believe, (which I think you admit now was also an very idiotic thing to have done). Lets see how Bostin progresses. I suspect he has done life long damage - bloody idiot he is. Still, he avoided legal issues to date, (unless he snitched which is possible) so that's something.
Yes it was a very stupid thing for me to smoke and I have paid and am still paying the price.
There`s a long story behind my smoking though but it changes nothing.
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Yes it was a very stupid thing for me to smoke and I have paid and am still paying the price.
There`s a long story behind my smoking though but it changes nothing.
Well hopefully you can recover. Body does have amazing regeneration abilities. Is it all OK for now with the treatment?
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Well hopefully you can recover. Body does have amazing regeneration abilities. Is it all OK for now with the treatment?
It`s in remission right now and my next scan i in March.......thanks for the kind words.
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It was inevitable thing coming for Bostin, bragged about taking so much shit, reusing needles, not disinfecting anything, shooting up in the parking lot, he’s most likely going to be done for pretty soon. All for entertainment
I agree with you Wes, too many shitstains in this industry of fuck ups and degenerates
Need more Lee haney, Jay, and Lee labrada types
They both did shit for the sport and just made it look more like the sideshow it already was.
Why dont bodybuilders today set good examples.....Lee Haney for example ?
Can you imagine Haney even remotely associating with these two shitstain fucking clowns?
There's another way of looking at it. To me it's kind of refreshing with guys who expose the dirty underbelly in bodybuilding in this case.
Nothing is more off-putting than some dude who portrays some holyroller persona in public but acts in absolutely detestable ways in private.
Few of us like bodybuilders who say they are natural, right?
Someone like Jay, maybe a nice "rolemodel" but we all know he has done unimaginable things with drugs over decades. When someone like that lies about what it takes, and I don't know if Jay has lied but just as an example, it doesn't sit well with us.
Bostin does take responsibility and he also lays out what exactly might have precipitated this crisis, so that's a good service to others.
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There's another way of looking at it.
Bostin does take responsibility and he also lays out what exactly might have precipitated this crisis, so that's a good service to others.
Well, I see your point. You certainly cannot fault him for hypocrisy. The guys here putting him down would be welcomed into the IFBB Public Relations Department, for example.
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There's another way of looking at it. To me it's kind of refreshing with guys who expose the dirty underbelly in bodybuilding in this case.
Nothing is more off-putting than some dude who portrays some holyroller persona in public but acts in absolutely detestable ways in private.
Few of us like bodybuilders who say they are natural, right?
Someone like Jay, maybe a nice "rolemodel" but we all know he has done unimaginable things with drugs over decades. When someone like that lies about what it takes, and I don't know if Jay has lied but just as an example, it doesn't sit well with us.
Bostin does take responsibility and he also lays out what exactly might have precipitated this crisis, so that's a good service to others.
true,,,we know now it takes a lot to get on stage and then to actually place and or win.the magazine era had you believe oh following this plan and this training and voila your a champ like haney ect....laughable now of course.i think bostin tho really blew the scene open extremely and that probably pissed people off.it is what it is...
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I've always liked Bostin because he shoots straight.
But that's not good enough any more. Being honest and saying "oh I fucked up" doesn't indemnify him from fucking up.
Kidney failure, despite having partner and a young kid ::)
His partner, given her obvious androgen history I can see him saying "if you're with me, you should know I might kill myself using steroids".
His kid didn't sign up for that shit, though.
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Haven't seen the new video yet, but bostin's a good guy. It's just a shame he turned into a drug junkie and wasn't taking medical advice.
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It's a strange situation to think a fella is a good guy but also know that as interesting and refreshing as it has been for him to be depicting the situation as something of a self aware reporter, he has still followed the archetypal bodybuilder's script like a fucking moron.
And like the rest of them, instead of focusing on sticking around, nah, it's about talking about other fellas who have gone through it - got the transplant and are still large ::)
It's a sickness.
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Well, I see your point. You certainly cannot fault him for hypocrisy. The guys here putting him down would be welcomed into the IFBB Public Relations Department, for example.
Talking about hypocrisy, there's a bit in the video where they state that Pakulski also had kidney failure a couple of years back when he rapidly down-sized (maybe even a transplant in the end)
Covered it up by saying he was thinking about his family
Opinions..?
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Talking about hypocrisy, there's a bit in the video where they state that Pakulski also had kidney failure a couple of years back when he rapidly down-sized (maybe even a transplant in the end)
Covered it up by saying he was thinking about his family
Opinions..?
thats the weird thing having a family but destroying your health for a 'individual selfish'goal of drugging your body to extremes.but on that level it must be hard to let go of that size .
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He's a genuinely nice guy but he went way overboard with the drugs and used a ton of experimental peptides. He's battled a few infections from bad shots, most notably one in his arm from a bad tricep shot (his arm looked like an elephants trunk). I pray he learns to separate bodybuilding from drugs or I fear this may not be the worst of things to come.
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Talking about hypocrisy, there's a bit in the video where they state that Pakulski also had kidney failure a couple of years back when he rapidly down-sized (maybe even a transplant in the end)
Covered it up by saying he was thinking about his family
Opinions..?
If it's true Pakulski had kidney failure then someone reading this knows about it. I would be curious if it's true.
If he had a kidney transplant, that would be amazing, keeping it a secret.
And like the rest of them, instead of focusing on sticking around, nah, it's about talking about other fellas who have gone through it - got the transplant and are still large ::)
It's a sickness.
Haha he isn't quitting anything.
He seems quite relaxed about it, maybe an act but still :D
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If it's true Pakulski had kidney failure then someone reading this knows about it. I would be curious if it's true.
If he had a kidney transplant, that would be amazing, keeping it a secret.
Haha he isn't quitting anything.
He seems quite relaxed about it, maybe an act but still :D
I can see it with bakulski, as his whole angle is as a science guy (training in the lab etc). So it'd destroy his brand.
Who's that slimy looking guy he's getting advice from on the podcast though ???
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I can see it with bakulski, as his whole angle is as a science guy (training in the lab etc). So it'd destroy his brand.
Who's that slimy looking guy he's getting advice from on the podcast though ???
The arab, "Leo"? He's pretty good, new-ish angles on stuff, sharp. Palumbo called him this era's Duchaine lol :D
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Remember how Derek Antony looked at the end stages? That's Bostin in 5 years
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“A light that burns twice as bright burns half as long” – Dr. Eldon Tyrell
;D
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"team3ccbostin
Very 1st episode of the "Non Fraudulent Bodybuilding Podcast". I go into depth about my health issues. Ever since I found out I was in Stage 5 Kidney failure in late October my focus and studying has turned into how I can restore my kidney function. If I'm able to recover from this it will be a miracle and I will go into detail on my treatments such as recovery peptides, Gluthithione, stem cells etc. My interest for the kidneys has increased tremendously. When I was younger I use to think I was invincible and my only fear in bodybuilding (kidney failure) has became a reality. I did this to myself with a idiotic experiment and it finally all caught up to me. Do I regret anything? Absolutely not but I will continue to learn from my mistakes and hope to spread the word and benefit people in the long run when it comes to longevity. I want to thank Real-Peptides, Amino Asylum, and IaSuperPharma for providing me with proven and tested supplements to get me healthy again. Hate all you want but I dreamed it, lived it, and now experiencing it and I wouldn't wish this even on my worst enemy...... LINK IN THE BIO!!!"
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKM5gVon-Qy/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CKM5gVon-Qy/)
So it's not that serious then...
"Stage 5 kidney disease means total kidney failure and the necessity of dialysis. Five decades ago, a failed kidney meant death was likely. These days, things are quite a bit different. According to the National Kidney Foundation, the average life expectancy for a patient on dialysis is 5-10 years"
:o
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reality is if he ceased some of the crap he was doing and stuck to 'basics'i guess.dialysis is nothing to take lightly its not something i would look comfortable having to do for yrs and yrs to survive.
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aaaand... he has kidney failure
old thread about the dummy http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=502785.0
I stopped watching when the middle eastern shmoe said his face was "back to normal". ::)
This "sport" is filled with idiots.
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Hope he recovers well, dude def hat potential to go far as a young athlete
(https://i.imgur.com/dyhft8E.png)
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Hope he recovers well, dude def hat potential to go far as a young athlete
(https://i.imgur.com/dyhft8E.png)
You don't really "recover" from stage-5 kidney failure as far as I know.
How old is he? I think he is still under 30.
Most people with late-stage kidney failure are much older than him and have other complications like diabetes and cardiovascular disease (although from the BB "lifestyle" he may have those too). It's not unheard of for younger people to live for 20-30 years on dialysis.
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You don't really "recover" from stage-5 kidney failure as far as I know.
How old is he? I think he is still under 30.
Most people with late-stage kidney failure are much older than him and have other complications like diabetes and cardiovascular disease (although from the BB "lifestyle" he may have those too). It's not unheard of for younger people to live for 20-30 years on dialysis.
He will have a decent chance if he stops all the drugs now.
Based on the latest pics/vids, he's till juiced to the tits.
He will end up like Derek Anthony.
Just can't handle being "small" like a normal person.
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He will have a decent chance if he stops all the drugs now.
Based on the latest pics/vids, he's till juiced to the tits.
He will end up like Derek Anthony.
Just can't handle being "small" like a normal person.
F*ck being a "normal" person, at least his legacy will live on forever (while most "normal" guys will be forgotten quickly)
20 million clicks for probably the most epic 1 year steroid transformation in history, top this 8)
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"team3ccbostin
So it's not that serious then...
"Stage 5 kidney disease means total kidney failure and the necessity of dialysis. Five decades ago, a failed kidney meant death was likely. These days, things are quite a bit different. According to the National Kidney Foundation, the average life expectancy for a patient on dialysis is 5-10 years"
:o
Thanks for the info. I have set calendar reminders for 2026 to remind me to post him as a pick in the dead pool for the year
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There is the small hope that this was an acute kidney injury due to this paticular drug so there might be significant recovery, apparently this is what the docs have said too, just waiting too see how labs look, then a biopsy which he's sort of afraid of. Usually kidney damage isn't reversible though.
He won't stop of course. Nearly no one stops.
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Hopefully, the kid pulls through this. He has a family.
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F*ck being a "normal" person, at least his legacy will live on forever (while most "normal" guys will be forgotten quickly)
20 million clicks for probably the most epic 1 year steroid transformation in history, top this 8)
do you think his kid is gonna forget him when mom remarries and he starts calling the stepfather dad
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F*ck being a "normal" person, at least his legacy will live on forever (while most "normal" guys will be forgotten quickly)
20 million clicks for probably the most epic 1 year steroid transformation in history, top this 8)
Hi, Bostin. ;D
Legacy?
He's a drug dealer and snake oil salesmen who will die very young.
Nobody outside of bodybuilding has a clue who he is.
After he's dead, he will be forgotten very quickly.
He's doing this for attention, because he knows the show is over.
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He won't stop of course. Nearly no one stops.
You've got the eye for this - what do you think of this fella?
dazballifbbpro
Hi everyone update photo, my bodyweight hit 245lbs but had some digestion problems so had to cut back on the food and sort that out it’s taken about 3weeks to sort now all good and gonna creep the food back up today at 238lbs. My metabolism has sped up so conditioning is a lot better fitness is always good hit style training and volume gets a good sweat on. Feel am at good starting point to add or diet whatever comes first all I can say health is wealth and getting fat is not my thing no disrespect to you fat bodybuilders that thinks that’s the way 👍🏽😂👋🏽
#train #traininghard #weights #volume #hit #bodybuildinglifestyle #ifbbproleague #mass #fitfam #instafitness #healthyfood #healthylifestyle #believe #inspire #kidneytransplant #natural #classic #sidetricepselfie #lockdown #healthiswealth #nevergiveup💪 #dreambig #instagood #inspiration #picoftheday #mrs#kids #twins #family
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You've got the eye for this - what do you think of this fella?
Yeah no, far from natural - 245 and real lean lol.
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You've got the eye for this - what do you think of this fella?
dazballifbbpro
Hi everyone update photo, my bodyweight hit 245lbs but had some digestion problems so had to cut back on the food and sort that out it’s taken about 3weeks to sort now all good and gonna creep the food back up today at 238lbs. My metabolism has sped up so conditioning is a lot better fitness is always good hit style training and volume gets a good sweat on. Feel am at good starting point to add or diet whatever comes first all I can say health is wealth and getting fat is not my thing no disrespect to you fat bodybuilders that thinks that’s the way 👍🏽😂👋🏽
#train #traininghard #weights #volume #hit #bodybuildinglifestyle #ifbbproleague #mass #fitfam #instafitness #healthyfood #healthylifestyle #believe #inspire #kidneytransplant #natural #classic #sidetricepselfie #lockdown #healthiswealth #nevergiveup💪 #dreambig #instagood #inspiration #picoftheday #mrs#kids #twins #family
Looks like we’ll have more content for the “bodybuilders in hospital beds” thread very soon!
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You've got the eye for this - what do you think of this fella?
dazballifbbpro
Hi everyone update photo, my bodyweight hit 245lbs but had some digestion problems so had to cut back on the food and sort that out it’s taken about 3weeks to sort now all good and gonna creep the food back up today at 238lbs. My metabolism has sped up so conditioning is a lot better fitness is always good hit style training and volume gets a good sweat on. Feel am at good starting point to add or diet whatever comes first all I can say health is wealth and getting fat is not my thing no disrespect to you fat bodybuilders that thinks that’s the way 👍🏽😂👋🏽
#train #traininghard #weights #volume #hit #bodybuildinglifestyle #ifbbproleague #mass #fitfam #instafitness #healthyfood #healthylifestyle #believe #inspire #kidneytransplant #natural #classic #sidetricepselfie #lockdown #healthiswealth #nevergiveup💪 #dreambig #instagood #inspiration #picoftheday #mrs#kids #twins #family
All these guys deserve to die, no sympathy given. A bunch of insecure degenerates
Take a page out of tom prince, walk away for good
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He will have a decent chance if he stops all the drugs now.
Based on the latest pics/vids, he's till juiced to the tits.
He will end up like Derek Anthony.
Just can't handle being "small" like a normal person.
He can handle being small in other areas though
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P6Hy1OKww50/U56EGY7VKcI/AAAAAAAAC8I/fD5ujpyE0uI/s1600/bostin+loyde.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=568881.0;attach=608117;image)
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Good for him. Health is more important than 23'' arms or a 500 lb bench or a 800 lb deadlift
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That's the biggest Penoris I have ever seen....
That reminds me.... Where is Grant Michaels?
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Blames Peptide, was using 5x the standard gymrat dose. Peptide - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibitin-targeting_peptide_1 ( Adipotide ).
He's still going half steam / full steam ahead with bodybuilding. Being advised by Don Long. Current cycle - 450mg test, 300mg Deca, 300 Primobolan. He's staying there depending on health, could go lower or higher depending on health.
Knows he won't be a pro, but thinks he could get one in today's climate, wants to reject it.
Thinks healthy average bodybuilder cycle would be 1 gram test, 600-800 mg Equipoise, 500mg Deca.
Palumbo denies having any major kidney problems. Just heart and joint trouble.
Bostin's father had major heart problems recently.
Claims he was making 800ish x 12.95 a month in forum subs.
Tom Prince is telling Bostin to stop, that the kidney problems will wreck him.
Last 5 minutes or so is Bostin and Palumbo arguing about his lifestyle. Palumbo wants him to mellow out, and you can tell Bostin wants back on.
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He won't recover....
.......from his GF saying "his dick isn't that small" about an actual picture. HAHAHA.
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You've got the eye for this - what do you think of this fella?
dazballifbbpro
Hi everyone update photo, my bodyweight hit 245lbs but had some digestion problems so had to cut back on the food and sort that out it’s taken about 3weeks to sort now all good and gonna creep the food back up today at 238lbs. My metabolism has sped up so conditioning is a lot better fitness is always good hit style training and volume gets a good sweat on. Feel am at good starting point to add or diet whatever comes first all I can say health is wealth and getting fat is not my thing no disrespect to you fat bodybuilders that thinks that’s the way 👍🏽😂👋🏽
#train #traininghard #weights #volume #hit #bodybuildinglifestyle #ifbbproleague #mass #fitfam #instafitness #healthyfood #healthylifestyle #believe #inspire #kidneytransplant #natural #classic #sidetricepselfie #lockdown #healthiswealth #nevergiveup💪 #dreambig #instagood #inspiration #picoftheday #mrs#kids #twins #family
A new level of liar there. Nutso.
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That retard Bostin IS the dark side of bodybuilding.
Epic lack of self-awareness.
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Very 1st episode of the "Non Fraudulent Bodybuilding Podcast". I go into depth about my health issues. Ever since I found out I was in Stage 5 Kidney failure in late October my focus and studying has turned into how I can restore my kidney function. If I'm able to recover from this it will be a miracle and I will go into detail on my treatments such as recovery peptides, Gluthithione, stem cells etc. My interest for the kidneys has increased tremendously.
Dude still can't stop doing drugs - "recovery peptides" - FFS.
How many people is Bostin taking down with him - with his 'advice'?
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Yeah he probably won't die any time if he does his dialysis and whatever, but his quality of life is on par with a 90 yearold
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Palumbo and Bostin talk about this new winkle -
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Blames Peptide, was using 5x the standard gymrat dose. Peptide - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibitin-targeting_peptide_1 ( Adipotide ).
He's still going half steam / full steam ahead with bodybuilding. Being Advised by Don Long. Current cycle - 450mg test, 300mg Deca, 300 Primobolan. He's staying there depending on health, could go lower or higher depending on health.
Knows he won't be a pro, but thinks he could get one in todays climate, wants to reject it.
Thinks healthy average bodybuilder cycle would be 1 gram test, 600-800 mg Equipoise, 500mg Deca.
Palumbo denies having any major kidney problems. Just heart and joint trouble.
Bostin's father had major heart problems recently.
Claims he was making 800ish x 12.95 a month in forum subs.
Tom Prince is telling Bostin to stop, that the kidney problems will wreck him.
Last 5 minutes or so is Bostin and Palumbo arguing about his lifestyle. Palumbo wants him to mellow out, and you can tell Bostin wants back on.
Hahaha “Don long did a full contest prep while being on dialysis”
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Palumbo and Bostin talk about this new winkle -
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Blames Peptide, was using 5x the standard gymrat dose. Peptide - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibitin-targeting_peptide_1 ( Adipotide ).
He's still going half steam / full steam ahead with bodybuilding. Being Advised by Don Long. Current cycle - 450mg test, 300mg Deca, 300 Primobolan. He's staying there depending on health, could go lower or higher depending on health.
Knows he won't be a pro, but thinks he could get one in todays climate, wants to reject it.
Thinks healthy average bodybuilder cycle would be 1 gram test, 600-800 mg Equipoise, 500mg Deca.
Palumbo denies having any major kidney problems. Just heart and joint trouble.
Bostin's father had major heart problems recently.
Claims he was making 800ish x 12.95 a month in forum subs.
Tom Prince is telling Bostin to stop, that the kidney problems will wreck him.
Last 5 minutes or so is Bostin and Palumbo arguing about his lifestyle. Palumbo wants him to mellow out, and you can tell Bostin wants back on.
I wouldn't be suprised if he made that much since that Chris Jones video of his "transformation" went viral.
Think about it. 20 million views! on pretty radical/insane transformation video of a "coach". That is going to get him alot of people signing up for whatever he is doing. Never mind them not realizing that look took him 10 grams of gear + insulin + hgh+ synthol to achieve.
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A lot of gullible people here. This is all a publicity stunt. Prepare for a miracle “cure” by year’s end. That’ll be the second piece of this stunt.
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A lot of gullible people here. This is all a publicity stunt. Prepare for a miracle “cure” by year’s end. That’ll be the second piece of this stunt.
Nah, highly doubt that. I had noticed his head had swelled up with water a few months ago. When it's that noticeable something's up. It wasn't normal roid bloat.
What would the end game be? Make money? I don't think so.
I would assume his family is pressuring him hard to let go of bodybuilding now. He will vacillate for awhile, perhaps go on TRT for number of months, perhaps do a bit more later and so on.
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I can't believe this. I never saw this coming.
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I can't believe this. I never saw this coming.
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This is a great thread.
Very informative
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again, its the enhancement oil that I believe is fucking up kidneys as opposed to the gear
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again, its the enhancement oil that I believe is fucking up kidneys as opposed to the gear
possibly.
But there is alot of bodybuilders who didn't use synthol who ended up with fucked kidneys aswell. Like Ben Pakulski
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He needs to hop off, or stay on a trt dose.
If he's addicted to peds, he should live vicariously through his wife and juice her up to the max.
Kinda like that guru who had the bodybuilder wife.
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again, its the enhancement oil that I believe is fucking up kidneys as opposed to the gear
I can't see any mechanism for that, haven't seen any proposed anywhere.
possibly.
But there is alot of bodybuilders who didn't use synthol who ended up with fucked kidneys aswell. Like Ben Pakulski
I'd like to know if there's anything to the Pakulski rumor. Those who would know will probably not talk.
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Only when one’s health is gone will an individual realize what he had.
This fool is still a young man.
Saying he regrets nothing, he’s either A) monumentally stupid, B) in denial, or C) a historic liar
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Nah, highly doubt that. I had noticed his head had swelled up with water a few months ago. When it's that noticeable something's up. It wasn't normal roid bloat.
What would the end game be? Make money? I don't think so.
I would assume his family is pressuring him hard to let go of bodybuilding now. He will vacillate for awhile, perhaps go on TRT for number of months, perhaps do a bit more later and so on.
Yes, money. What other reason would there be.
He’ll roll-out the “cure” this year and then the comeback in 2022. The reaction he’s getting here is exactly what he and his wife anticipated.
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Van said "let go of bodybuilding"............he was never a bodybuilder he was a guinea pig.
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I think it’s all bullshit or at the very least he’s over exaggerating his health issues. Why wouldn’t his wife and family totally freak out? He has a kid and still doesn’t seem to care? I thought he was close to his parents? Don’t they care or doesn’t he listen to them?
He backed himself into a corner. He was never going to be a high level bodybuilder. He’s almost 30 already and hasn’t competed in years. Never stays in shape and even tore his pec, which he didn’t fix with surgery. After all these years of listening to him brag about how much gear he takes and how smart he is about it, we’re now supposed to believe he did all this with a peptide?? Yeah sure
This is just his new angle for his biz and an excuse for him to never compete. He’s a joke
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Saying he regrets nothing, he’s either A) monumentally stupid, B) in denial, or C) a historic liar
All three of peace.
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Yes, money. What other reason would there be.
He’ll roll-out the “cure” this year and then the comeback in 2022. The reaction he’s getting here is exactly what he and his wife anticipated.
Okay, you say this is all fake and he will be selling a cure.
I say he is fucked health-wise and will not be selling any cure (what could it be? He's been using ARBs, beta-blockers, I think ramipril, plus some common peptides). My prediction is that there is lasting damage to his kidneys, maybe some partial recovery but not completely, they will remain compromised.
We will see who was right in the near future.
I think it’s all bullshit or at the very least he’s over exaggerating his health issues. Why wouldn’t his wife and family totally freak out? He has a kid and still doesn’t seem to care? I thought he was close to his parents? Don’t they care or doesn’t he listen to them?
You think it's out of the question that he's hurt himself with drugs? Funny, as others say they saw this coming a mile away due to how many drugs he's used.
How is this good for his business? People will be flocking to him for guidance after he messed himself up? Please explain this business angle.
Van said "let go of bodybuilding"............he was never a bodybuilder he was a guinea pig.
Which bb isn't or wasn't a guinea pig?
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I gotta agree with Van............kids fucked up for sure.........unfortunate ly.
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I gotta agree with Van............kids fucked up for sure.........unfortunate ly.
Do you consider yourself lucky, in retrospect?
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again, its the enhancement oil that I believe is fucking up kidneys as opposed to the gear
Just one study. It's a combination of things and most are not having renal biopsies. Like left ventricular hypertrophy and arrhythmia's it's happening.
Secondary focal segmental glomerulosclerosis in bodybuilders
Author: Ahmed Ramadan Ali, Sherif H.Maroof, Hussein S. Hussein, Ahmed Alsayed, Esmat Fawzy, John Patrick Madda FRC path
Background: Many athletes use high protein diet, high pharmacological doses of androgen anabolic steroids (AASs), growth hormone to enhance their physique, improve achievements. The(AASs)are banned for their effects on immune system, blood, sterility, atherosclerosis, blood pressure, heart, liver, and secondary focal and global glomerulosclerosis.
Objectives: identify pattern, risk factors, etiology, histopathological features, prognosis and management of renal involvement in bodybuilders.
Patients and Methods: This study enrolled (33) male body builders who developed impaired kidney functions, proteinuria and were followed up for (1) year. All patients were subjected to clinical examination, recording of( body mass index(BMI), training sessions/ week, duration, protein intake per/day, creatine and amino acids intake /day, AASs, growth hormone intake/week).Laboratory investigations{HCV antibody, HBV surface and core Ag, HIVAb}, {ANA, anti-ds DNA,C3,C4,CH50}, {serum creatinine, BUN}, total proteins, serum albumin, urine analysis, quantitative 24 hours urinary proteinuria, lipid profile, {ALT,AST}, serum calcium, phosphorus, total vitamin D, serum PTH, TSH and hemoglobin levels. Renal biopsy was performed for all participants and estimated glomerular filtration rate (eGFR)was done.
Results: Association of secondary focal segmental glomerulosclerosis (FSGS) in 33 bodybuilders; mean age (31.42y± 1.44), mean BMI (46.18 kg/m2 ±2.51) after long-term abuse of AASs with mean intake (1827.27 mg/wk ±426.66). Clinical presentation included renal insufficiency, mean serum creatinine (527.79 ummol/l ±231), mean proteinuria (19.30 g/d.±5.24). Renal biopsy revealed FSGS and end stage renal disease (ESRD) glomerulomegaly in 33 patients, with tubular atrophy and interstitial fibrosis in 21 of them. Upon follow-up; 12 patients progressed to ESRD and required renal replacement therapy (RRT); 3 were non compliant to medical advice, 9 started (RRT) at time of diagnosis. All patients were prescribed renin-angiotensin system blockers, advised to discontinue (AASs) leading to weight loss, stabilization or improvement in serum creatinine, reduction in proteinuria in the remaining 21 patients.
Conclusion: Increased BMI, abuse of (ASSs), high protein diet carry a great risk for developing ESRD secondary to (FSGS) in bodybuilders.
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I think it’s all bullshit or at the very least he’s over exaggerating his health issues. Why wouldn’t his wife and family totally freak out? He has a kid and still doesn’t seem to care? I thought he was close to his parents? Don’t they care or doesn’t he listen to them?
He backed himself into a corner. He was never going to be a high level bodybuilder. He’s almost 30 already and hasn’t competed in years. Never stays in shape and even tore his pec, which he didn’t fix with surgery. After all these years of listening to him brag about how much gear he takes and how smart he is about it, we’re now supposed to believe he did all this with a peptide?? Yeah sure
This is just his new angle for his biz and an excuse for him to never compete. He’s a joke
To be fair, his IQ is probably slightly higher than Forrest Gump.
Most bodybuilders are morons with addiction problems.
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Just one study. It's a combination of things and most are not having renal biopsies. Like left ventricular hypertrophy and arrhythmia's it's happening.
Secondary focal segmental glomerulosclerosis in bodybuilders
Author: Ahmed Ramadan Ali, Sherif H.Maroof, Hussein S. Hussein, Ahmed Alsayed, Esmat Fawzy, John Patrick Madda FRC path
Background: Many athletes use high protein diet, high pharmacological doses of androgen anabolic steroids (AASs), growth hormone to enhance their physique, improve achievements. The(AASs)are banned for their effects on immune system, blood, sterility, atherosclerosis, blood pressure, heart, liver, and secondary focal and global glomerulosclerosis.
Objectives: identify pattern, risk factors, etiology, histopathological features, prognosis and management of renal involvement in bodybuilders.
Patients and Methods: This study enrolled (33) male body builders who developed impaired kidney functions, proteinuria and were followed up for (1) year. All patients were subjected to clinical examination, recording of( body mass index(BMI), training sessions/ week, duration, protein intake per/day, creatine and amino acids intake /day, AASs, growth hormone intake/week).Laboratory investigations{HCV antibody, HBV surface and core Ag, HIVAb}, {ANA, anti-ds DNA,C3,C4,CH50}, {serum creatinine, BUN}, total proteins, serum albumin, urine analysis, quantitative 24 hours urinary proteinuria, lipid profile, {ALT,AST}, serum calcium, phosphorus, total vitamin D, serum PTH, TSH and hemoglobin levels. Renal biopsy was performed for all participants and estimated glomerular filtration rate (eGFR)was done.
Results: Association of secondary focal segmental glomerulosclerosis (FSGS) in 33 bodybuilders; mean age (31.42y± 1.44), mean BMI (46.18 kg/m2 ±2.51) after long-term abuse of AASs with mean intake (1827.27 mg/wk ±426.66). Clinical presentation included renal insufficiency, mean serum creatinine (527.79 ummol/l ±231), mean proteinuria (19.30 g/d.±5.24). Renal biopsy revealed FSGS and end stage renal disease (ESRD) glomerulomegaly in 33 patients, with tubular atrophy and interstitial fibrosis in 21 of them. Upon follow-up; 12 patients progressed to ESRD and required renal replacement therapy (RRT); 3 were non compliant to medical advice, 9 started (RRT) at time of diagnosis. All patients were prescribed renin-angiotensin system blockers, advised to discontinue (AASs) leading to weight loss, stabilization or improvement in serum creatinine, reduction in proteinuria in the remaining 21 patients.
Conclusion: Increased BMI, abuse of (ASSs), high protein diet carry a great risk for developing ESRD secondary to (FSGS) in bodybuilders.
Jesus wept...
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(ps - good to see you back Walt 8))
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again, its the enhancement oil that I believe is fucking up kidneys as opposed to the gear
It’s both
When you brag about 10+ grams.....
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One of the nicest things said to me by Robert Kennedy ...
Fully knowing, at that time, my obsessive desire to become a professional bodybuilder, he said:
“You’ll never be a professional bodybuilder, boy. You’re too smart.”
At the time, I thought, I’ll show him!
Now, some 25 years later, I understand.
On a side note, I miss Bob. Him and I had our issues, but deep down we were fond of one another. The guy was one colourful and unique SOB. Rarely does one encounter his type.
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Only bodybuilder i know personally that lost a kidney was due to taking too many diuretics. He competed in 3 shows in a very short period of time and damaged his kidneys.
At least that's what he told us. He was a big due who used tons of AAS/Gh/Slin.
He's still fine today and looks good for being almost 50. Hasn't had any problems with his one kidney.
Even on 3g's of combined AAS my kidneys were fine, but i didn't stay on that long. My BP however was terrible.
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Only bodybuilder i know personally that lost a kidney was due to taking too many diuretics. He competed in 3 shows in a very short period of time and damaged his kidneys.
At least that's what he told us. He was a big due who used tons of AAS/Gh/Slin.
He's still fine today and looks good for being almost 50. Hasn't had any problems with his one kidney.
Even on 3g's of combined AAS my kidneys were fine, but i didn't stay on that long. My BP however was terrible.
10 grams is the sweet spot
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(ps - good to see you back Walt 8))
Thanks Taff! I'm in and out depending on the ever changing gulag rules.😅🇺🇸
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again, its the enhancement oil that I believe is fucking up kidneys as opposed to the gear
Lloyd is blaming a single month of overdoing a single peptide. He doesn't really know what has fucked his kidneys but blaming that peptide is IMO a way to keep his coaching/drug abuse business going.
Anyone who believes his kidneys would be peachy if not for that peptide should consider Mr Anthony.
People are dumb.
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Lloyd is blaming a single month of overdoing a single peptide. He doesn't really know what has fucked his kidneys but blaming that peptide is IMO a way to keep his coaching/drug abuse business going.
Anyone who believes his kidneys would be peachy if not for that peptide should consider Mr Anthony.
People are dumb.
You may be right, that it wasn't just that peptide that did it.
However, Bostin may really believe it and people around him are saying it was probably the peptide, like Palumbo, so what do you expect him to think?
He was walking around with high BP for a long time so kidneys may have been compromised, but at the same time do you think this peptide won't damage anyone's kidneys in a month? He was suddenly puking 30 times a day while taking it. Something that gave all animals kidney failure in studies. I wouldn't touch it, that's for sure.
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You may be right, that it wasn't just that peptide that did it.
However, Bostin may really believe it and people around him are saying it was probably the peptide, like Palumbo, so what do you expect him to think?
He was walking around with high BP for a long time so kidneys may have been compromised, but at the same time do you think this peptide won't damage anyone's kidneys in a month? He was suddenly puking 30 times a day while taking it. Something that gave all animals kidney failure in studies. I wouldn't touch it, that's for sure.
He’s said that he had heart problems too
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He’s said that he had heart problems too
Really? I listened to the Leo as well as the Rx but missed it.
Kidney issues can lead to heart issues and viceversa, or they often occur at the same time or close - but he wasn't just guessing, something was up with his heart as well?
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Really? I listened to the Leo as well as the Rx but missed it.
Kidney issues can lead to heart issues and viceversa, or they often occur at the same time or close - but he wasn't just guessing, something was up with his heart as well?
Rx podcast - 14:35 in or so, he had a high heart rate, self prescribed beta blockers to lower it. At 17:25, he talks his father's heart problem, Palumbo talking about his problems is between those two times.
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To be fair, his IQ is probably slightly higher than Forrest Gump.
Most bodybuilders are morons with addiction problems.
Bostin may not be that smart...but he knows what love is.
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Nah, highly doubt that. I had noticed his head had swelled up with water a few months ago. When it's that noticeable something's up. It wasn't normal roid bloat.
What would the end game be? Make money? I don't think so.
I would assume his family is pressuring him hard to let go of bodybuilding now. He will vacillate for awhile, perhaps go on TRT for number of months, perhaps do a bit more later and so on.
The Tom Prince post-kidney dialysis program. Lovely. I'm sure it will end well. ::)
I remember in January 2004, reading in FLEX that Tom Prince stopped for ice cream on the way to the hospital when his doctor explicitly told him he is in kidney failure and needs to see him immediately. Prince said in hindsight, he shouldn't have stopped for the ice cream. Lol, really?
It was that FLEX issue that had the photos of Bob Cicherillo posing with Tom, where Tom's forearms were covered in bandages, probably to cover track marks from main-lining opiates. People photoshopped a bunch of dicks in it...like Tom holding Bob's dick, etc, lol.
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That's interesting that Dave called himself a health marker nut. It sounds like he's always been that way, so why ever take up high level bodybuilding?
The aorta dissection discussion was interesting. I'm pretty sure actor John Ritter died of that. John Ritter was a bit overweight, but i'm curious now if he did a lot of coke too. Seems like a lot of actors/entertainers do. Just given he died close to his 55th birthday is a bit strange...pretty young. Although I don't know.
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Lloyd is blaming a single month of overdoing a single peptide. He doesn't really know what has fucked his kidneys but blaming that peptide is IMO a way to keep his coaching/drug abuse business going.
Anyone who believes his kidneys would be peachy if not for that peptide should consider Mr Anthony.
People are dumb.
This entire thread is a bit depressing, but necessary. It seems like a lot of mainstream sports end up in problems like this. At least the information is out there.
What also sucks about pro bodybuilding is to stop, then lose all the mass. At least with mainstream athletes, most still look like they can perform their respective sport. Meanwhile someone said Tom Prince looked like a shirt in a coat-hanger in his semi-recent Shawn Ray interview.
Shawn Ray seems to be in a good spot. It must suck to build your identity around bodybuilding, then lose it all.
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Stage 5 kidney failure and still running gear, considering at-home dialysis.
Incredible, you can't make this stuff up. True warrior of the coveted thong!
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I think Bostin was also was using DNP on and off. Also consumed high amounts of meat. He took tons of orals, diuretics, + clen.
Yes, he was "honest about what he did". But regardless, he's basically an idiot. So it now comes as no surprise at all that he blew out his kidneys.
You can also tell from his heavy breathing that his vascular system is fucked.
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I think Bostin was also was using DNP on and off. Also consumed high amounts of meat. He took tons of orals, diuretics, + clen.
Yes, he was "honest about what he did". But regardless, he's basically an idiot. So it now comes as no surprise at all that he blew out his kidneys.
You can also tell from his heavy breathing that his vascular system is fucked.
Depressing post/thread, but true. I respected his honesty. I also assumed many pros were running what Bostin ran, but since most pros don't have kidney failure by 28, I guess not. Possibly because he made a schtick of his "honesty", and ran redundant gear cycles, almost on a lark.
His story of getting off the couch, and his heart race skyrocketing concerned me. I can't imagine how worried I would be if that happened. Not that my heart rate never accelerates, but going from rest is racing heart rate within the span of a few seconds is crazy.
I've been avoiding Canada's government healthcare since COVID started, but I think I'm going to ask my doctor to put me on a Holter heart rate monitor.
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To be fair, his IQ is probably slightly higher than Forrest Gump.
Most bodybuilders are morons with addiction problems.
It's in the nature of the sport.
A person with above 110 IQ or so is likely not willing to do jeopardize health and shorten lifespan for a narcissistic idea of being "huge".
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It's in the nature of the sport.
A person with above 110 IQ or so is likely not willing to do jeopardize health and shorten lifespan for a narcissistic idea of being "huge".
I think it's related to overthinking everything.
A blessing and a curse, I would say.
For any criticism of Palumbo, he is a smart guy. Yet was something like 318-lb at his peak in 1996, and I remember him doing a speech after a guest posing in 1999 and being very short of breath. Now he lives a lifestyle that a Monk would call ascetic, if he is telling the truth. It makes me wonder how he ever got into bodybuilding, or if some health scare made him so careful as he got older. Or having three kids will do that.
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8 pages about a veritable kid who has done zippo in bodybuilding except act stupid.
I put him just a tad above Genova .
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Matt with a whopping 6 posts in rapid succesion. ;D
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how old is Bostin Loyd? saw his interview with rx muscle. give him less than 5 years :-\
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A lot of gullible people here. This is all a publicity stunt. Prepare for a miracle “cure” by year’s end. That’ll be the second piece of this stunt.
This. He knows how to market himself
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Palumbo is already saying he thinks Bostin is out of kidney failure because his eyes are too clear.
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You may be right, that it wasn't just that peptide that did it.
However, Bostin may really believe it and people around him are saying it was probably the peptide, like Palumbo, so what do you expect him to think?
He was walking around with high BP for a long time so kidneys may have been compromised, but at the same time do you think this peptide won't damage anyone's kidneys in a month? He was suddenly puking 30 times a day while taking it. Something that gave all animals kidney failure in studies. I wouldn't touch it, that's for sure.
Van - is that public knowledge? I'll try a Google, but any chance of a link please?
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Palumbo is already saying he thinks Bostin is out of kidney failure because his eyes are too clear.
EPIC Bro science there - would definitely trust my health to Paulmbo
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Van - is that public knowledge? I'll try a Google, but any chance of a link please?
I don't know, never checked, just went by what they said.
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at the end of the day competitive bodybuilding or trying to become one is the most unhealthiest healthy lifestyle to choose.'normal' people would say jack lalanne was the fittest at the time and even in old age was the prime example of how to exercise and eat well for life span if its in your genetic cards...
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at the end of the day competitive bodybuilding or trying to become one is the most unhealthiest healthy lifestyle to choose.'normal' people would say jack lalanne was the fittest at the time and even in old age was the prime example of how to exercise and eat well for life span if its in your genetic cards...
Yeah but didn't he drink his own p1ss a la Mentzer..?
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Eight pages about a kid who has done zippo in bodybuilding except act stupid.
THIS.
It really is difficult to comprehend an individual choosing to inflict such horrific damage on his own body.
If stupid can be defined, Bostin (oh, brother) is example One.
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Van - is that public knowledge? I'll try a Google, but any chance of a link please?
"In monkeys necropsied 24 hours after the final dose of adipotide, lesions associated with the kidney were observed and were found to be dose-dependent; such lesions were not present in the control group (Fig. 7A). The observed lesions were scored minimal to mild in the low-dose group, minimal to mild in most of the middle-dose monkeys, and minimal to moderate in the high-dose group. The primary lesions were classified as degenerative/necrotic (single-cell necrosis) and reactive/regenerative (Fig. 7B). In monkeys necropsied at the end of the recovery period, minimal tubular degeneration with few degenerate cells was observed in one monkey in the middle-dose group and in two monkeys in the high-dose group. Tubular regeneration and tubular necrosis (single cell with few necrotic cells) were minimal in all monkeys after recovery (Fig. 7C). Thus, the primary side effect of adipotide is relatively mild, predictable, and reversible renal injury and altered tubular function. Abnormal lipid accumulation (including hepatic steatosis) was not noted in any of the monkeys that received adipotide."
"Whereas a detailed mechanism of action for adipotide treatment remains to be fully elucidated, we observed that weight loss in obese rhesus monkeys occurred concurrently with a reduction in food intake. Strikingly, lean rhesus monkeys receiving a therapeutic dose of adipotide did not lose weight (fig. S5). This finding suggests that the mechanism of action may be obesity-specific in primates."
The big monkey study -
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3666164/ . It's interesting reading.
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"In monkeys necropsied 24 hours after the final dose of adipotide, lesions associated with the kidney were observed and were found to be dose-dependent; such lesions were not present in the control group (Fig. 7A). The observed lesions were scored minimal to mild in the low-dose group, minimal to mild in most of the middle-dose monkeys, and minimal to moderate in the high-dose group. The primary lesions were classified as degenerative/necrotic (single-cell necrosis) and reactive/regenerative (Fig. 7B). In monkeys necropsied at the end of the recovery period, minimal tubular degeneration with few degenerate cells was observed in one monkey in the middle-dose group and in two monkeys in the high-dose group. Tubular regeneration and tubular necrosis (single cell with few necrotic cells) were minimal in all monkeys after recovery (Fig. 7C). Thus, the primary side effect of adipotide is relatively mild, predictable, and reversible renal injury and altered tubular function. Abnormal lipid accumulation (including hepatic steatosis) was not noted in any of the monkeys that received adipotide."
"Whereas a detailed mechanism of action for adipotide treatment remains to be fully elucidated, we observed that weight loss in obese rhesus monkeys occurred concurrently with a reduction in food intake. Strikingly, lean rhesus monkeys receiving a therapeutic dose of adipotide did not lose weight (fig. S5). This finding suggests that the mechanism of action may be obesity-specific in primates."
The big monkey study -
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3666164/ . It's interesting reading.
Thanks yet again BB - I've lost count of the times you've helped me out - appreciated :)
I will read the paper, but in that excerpt those 2 things stand out for me - maybe he will be able to stage a miraculous recovery after all...
Edit: skimmed the paper - with a possible max reduction in bodyweight (white adipose) of 17% in 4 weeks it's only a matter of time before more d1ckheads use this stuff
Also: the fact that 39 monkeys had to die to evaluate the effect of what is after all designed to be a weight-loss drug for lazy fat fvckers just seems wrong in every way... >:(
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Thanks yet again BB - I've lost count of the times you've helped me out - appreciated :)
I will read the paper, but in that excerpt those 2 things stand out for me - maybe he will be able to stage a miraculous recovery after all...
Yeah, also that part about lean monkies getting little from it is interesting. Even fat pro bodybuilders are still very lean next to the average. They could be chasing something that will never happen.
The monkey doses are in there for figuring dosing by bodyweight, I'm too lazy to do it, but someone could figure out which monkey class Bostin was.
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Yeah, also that part about lean monkies getting little from it is interesting. Even fat pro bodybuilders are still very lean next to the average. They could be chasing something that will never happen.
The monkey doses are in there for figuring dosing by bodyweight, I'm too lazy to do it, but someone could figure out which monkey class Bostin was.
HAHHAA! Legit LOL ;D
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Just one study. It's a combination of things and most are not having renal biopsies. Like left ventricular hypertrophy and arrhythmia's it's happening.
Secondary focal segmental glomerulosclerosis in bodybuilders
Author: Ahmed Ramadan Ali, Sherif H.Maroof, Hussein S. Hussein, Ahmed Alsayed, Esmat Fawzy, John Patrick Madda FRC path
Background: Many athletes use high protein diet, high pharmacological doses of androgen anabolic steroids (AASs), growth hormone to enhance their physique, improve achievements. The(AASs)are banned for their effects on immune system, blood, sterility, atherosclerosis, blood pressure, heart, liver, and secondary focal and global glomerulosclerosis.
Objectives: identify pattern, risk factors, etiology, histopathological features, prognosis and management of renal involvement in bodybuilders.
Patients and Methods: This study enrolled (33) male body builders who developed impaired kidney functions, proteinuria and were followed up for (1) year. All patients were subjected to clinical examination, recording of( body mass index(BMI), training sessions/ week, duration, protein intake per/day, creatine and amino acids intake /day, AASs, growth hormone intake/week).Laboratory investigations{HCV antibody, HBV surface and core Ag, HIVAb}, {ANA, anti-ds DNA,C3,C4,CH50}, {serum creatinine, BUN}, total proteins, serum albumin, urine analysis, quantitative 24 hours urinary proteinuria, lipid profile, {ALT,AST}, serum calcium, phosphorus, total vitamin D, serum PTH, TSH and hemoglobin levels. Renal biopsy was performed for all participants and estimated glomerular filtration rate (eGFR)was done.
Results: Association of secondary focal segmental glomerulosclerosis (FSGS) in 33 bodybuilders; mean age (31.42y± 1.44), mean BMI (46.18 kg/m2 ±2.51) after long-term abuse of AASs with mean intake (1827.27 mg/wk ±426.66). Clinical presentation included renal insufficiency, mean serum creatinine (527.79 ummol/l ±231), mean proteinuria (19.30 g/d.±5.24). Renal biopsy revealed FSGS and end stage renal disease (ESRD) glomerulomegaly in 33 patients, with tubular atrophy and interstitial fibrosis in 21 of them. Upon follow-up; 12 patients progressed to ESRD and required renal replacement therapy (RRT); 3 were non compliant to medical advice, 9 started (RRT) at time of diagnosis. All patients were prescribed renin-angiotensin system blockers, advised to discontinue (AASs) leading to weight loss, stabilization or improvement in serum creatinine, reduction in proteinuria in the remaining 21 patients.
Conclusion: Increased BMI, abuse of (ASSs), high protein diet carry a great risk for developing ESRD secondary to (FSGS) in bodybuilders.
Damn those are some big/fat dudes. 46 BMI if you're 5'8" is over 300 lbs. "Offseason" I guess.
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Bostin is absolutely fine. We were texting a few days ago. He's fine.
He sends greetings.
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Bostin is absolutely fine. We were texting a few days ago. He's fine.
He sends greetings.
We are still adding him to the Deadpool 2021
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Bostin is absolutely fine. We were texting a few days ago. He's fine.
He sends greetings.
4 days ago:
My kidneys are shot and are progressively getting worse but I feel great. It's a very weird disease.
my creatinine is 6.93 as of last week which is crazy high. Most people have some sort of edema or side effects. Besides lower appetite and ammonia taste in mouth I have no other symptoms. Piss is crazy foamy to. But yes my doctor said my GFR is probably higher then 10% because of muscle mass but he just switched my diagnosis from an acute injury to a chronic stage 5 kidney disease.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CM5YM9NHaHs/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CM5YM9NHaHs/)
Not sure Mr Wishbone's optimism was 100% on-target?
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He will be dead soon.
Still on gear.
Still living in denial.
Poor guy is pulling a full Derek Anthony.
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He mentioned recently he and Palumbo are trying for a second child. :o
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Stupid parents can’t even spell their child’s name correct when they named him, IQ doesn’t fall too far from the tree
Useless small dick idiot
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This ‘tard is toast.
He nuked his system and it’s all on him.
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4 days ago:
My kidneys are shot and are progressively getting worse but I feel great. It's a very weird disease.
my creatinine is 6.93 as of last week which is crazy high. Most people have some sort of edema or side effects. Besides lower appetite and ammonia taste in mouth I have no other symptoms. Piss is crazy foamy to. But yes my doctor said my GFR is probably higher then 10% because of muscle mass but he just switched my diagnosis from an acute injury to a chronic stage 5 kidney disease.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CM5YM9NHaHs/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CM5YM9NHaHs/)
Not sure Mr Wishbone's optimism was 100% on-target?
Haha stage 5 kidney failure is anything but fine
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I made a prediction a few pages back, a couple of dudes said this is all fake to sell something, nothing wrong with him.
He could be gone soon. Could be a heart attack even. He is doing all sorts of experiments, shooting stuff IV, stuff that should not be shot IV.
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He and Dad were not close from what was reported before. Dad probably realizes things are not good thus the visit from CA, may also be thinking about the grandkid. Hopefully grandkid develops a passion for some other sport.
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry at Bostin's video.
He is certainly more stupid than funny.
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Get this, his bodybuilder mom is supposedly in kidney failure too now. She has eaten 400! grams of protein per day for decades, not much else. 400 grams for an old lady maybe 120lbs or whatever he said! She was shredded in the pics I saw.
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Matt with a whopping 6 posts in rapid succesion. ;D
Are you forcing him to post this much?
Please don't coerse the young lad into anything he is not comfortable with! :D
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Get this, his bodybuilder mom is supposedly in kidney failure too now. She has eaten 400! grams of protein per day for decades, not much else. 400 grams for an old lady maybe 120lbs or whatever he said! She was shredded in the pics I saw.
Like I said in my other post, apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree, or in this case IQ
A family of low IQ and small penises, what a combo
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Like I said in my other post, apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree, or in this case IQ
A family of low IQ and small penises, what a combo
He is his worst enemy. What can be said, he is what he is. I will say that I quite like the fella. Some seem to really, really hate him, think he is the worst thing ever and are happy that he now fell on his own sword. What I like about him is that he feels honest, it doesn't feel like he is trying to trick or manipulate you. There is a certain autistic quality to him I guess you could say, he has been calling out all the right people. I am pulling for him but it might end pretty soon.
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Like I said in my other post, apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree, or in this case IQ
A family of low IQ and small penises, what a combo
So you're related to Bostin?
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He is his worst enemy. What can be said, he is what he is. I will say that I quite like the fella. Some seem to really, really hate him, think he is the worst thing ever and are happy that he now fell on his own sword. What I like about him is that he feels honest, it doesn't feel like he is trying to trick or manipulate you. There is a certain autistic quality to him I guess you could say, he has been calling out all the right people. I am pulling for him but it might end pretty soon.
Perhaps. But to what end? Oh, that’s right. His.
His self-abuse is for nothing. It’s not like he achieved bodybuilding greatness or advanced training.
He’s a young man, married with a kid, and he’s gonna soon take the dirt nap.
Terrific.
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Yap. He is only 27yo.
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Perhaps. But to what end? Oh, that’s right. His.
His self-abuse is for nothing. It’s not like he achieved bodybuilding greatness or advanced training.
He’s a young man, married with a kid, and he’s gonna soon take the dirt nap.
Terrific.
He may have made idiotic choices but I appreciate people who don't feel fake, even if idiotic. I believe in genes a lot, he is living out the script in his genes. We all have our own quirks, our own idiocies. It's not necessarily that we decide to be idiots so much, we just are. I might be wrong :D
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He may have made idiotic choices but I appreciate people who don't feel fake, even if idiotic. I believe in genes a lot, he is living out the script in his genes. We all have our own quirks, our own idiocies. It's not necessarily that we decide to be idiots so much, we just are. I might be wrong :D
I have not followed the guy that much but I completely agree that good choices/bad choices does not have that much to do with whether you are a genuine or likeable person.
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Is he "done" done?
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Is this update on RX muscle or Kenny KO yet ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHH Levroneeeeee
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He may have made idiotic choices but I appreciate people who don't feel fake, even if idiotic. I believe in genes a lot, he is living out the script in his genes. We all have our own quirks, our own idiocies. It's not necessarily that we decide to be idiots so much, we just are. I might be wrong :D
He probably made the same exact choices as Kevin Levrone and Flex Wheeler ( 2 of the greatest BB ) he just didn't have the same benefits that's it ......
That's bodybuilding .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I have not followed the guy that much but I completely agree that good choices/bad choices does not have that much to do with whether you are a genuine or likeable person.
Depends on the frequency and severity of those bad choices.
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A family of low IQ and small penises, what a combo
So you're related to Bostin?
Oof! C'mon Bevo, even you have to admit that was funny ;D
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Is this update on RX muscle or Kenny KO yet ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHH Levroneeeeee
I took it from his Instagram, but he's giving regular video updates to this guy
https://www.instagram.com/leoandlongevity/ (https://www.instagram.com/leoandlongevity/)
Is he "done" done?
Depends on your definition
It’s important to remember that end stage renal disease won’t be cured by dialysis, though it can prolong the patients' life. Good dialysis can mean another 3-5 years of life
https://www.newhealthadvisor.org/stage-5-kidney-failure-life-expectancy-with-dialysis.html (https://www.newhealthadvisor.org/stage-5-kidney-failure-life-expectancy-with-dialysis.html)
Too early for a Deadpool 2024 entry?
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I obviously can't speak for the guy, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt, as far as him telling the truth during this whole process.
I have genuine sympathy for him and his family. Stage 5 kidney disease is transplant or death.
Sure, dialysis can add a few years (under favorable situations) but his back is against the wall.
I'm not a psychologist, but most people would be scared shitless with that diagnosis. I just wish him well at this point, but I hope he is just putting on a brave face for the sake of his family.
Now is the time for kisses, hugs, laughs, and truly living in the moment.
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I obviously can't speak for the guy, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt, as far as him telling the truth during this whole process.
I have genuine sympathy for him and his family. Stage 5 kidney disease is transplant or death.
Sure, dialysis can add a few years (under favorable situations) but his back is against the wall.
I'm not a psychologist, but most people would be scared shitless with that diagnosis. I just wish him well at this point, but I hope he is just putting on a brave face for the sake of his family.
Now is the time for kisses, hugs, laughs, and truly living in the moment.
You're not a Medical Doctor either.
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You're not a Medical Doctor either.
I'm just going with what Bostin said.
He has stage 5 kidney failure. In this case, I hope his doctor was wrong.
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I obviously can't speak for the guy, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt, as far as him telling the truth during this whole process.
I have genuine sympathy for him and his family. Stage 5 kidney disease is transplant or death.
Sure, dialysis can add a few years (under favorable situations) but his back is against the wall.
I'm not a psychologist, but most people would be scared shitless with that diagnosis. I just wish him well at this point, but I hope he is just putting on a brave face for the sake of his family.
Now is the time for kisses, hugs, laughs, and truly living in the moment.
I feel sorry for the imbecile but just because he told the truth about insane gear and other bullshit he did cuts no ice in my book.........doen`t make him brave just makes him an honest imbecilic kid.
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I'm just going with what Bostin said.
He has stage 5 kidney failure. In this case, I hope his doctor was wrong.
Im just pointing out you made sure that we knew you weren't a psychologist. I didnt want anyone confused when you offered your medical opinion without clarification.
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LOL ;D
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If he gets a transplant and the body doesn't reject it, he might live a couple of decades more. Or more.
A co-worker of mine had kidney issues since he was 28. Is 45yo now and is still having a "normal" life. Had a transplant 10 years or more ago.
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So a good natured kid (Bostin) sticks a needle in his arm a zillion times, promotes it online, and now is dying because of it? Stupid is as stupid does. I like his personality but he still was a fool. Darwinism in full effect.
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Im just pointing out you made sure that we knew you weren't a psychologist. I didnt want anyone confused when you offered your medical opinion without clarification.
;D
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Get this, his bodybuilder mom is supposedly in kidney failure too now. She has eaten 400! grams of protein per day for decades, not much else. 400 grams for an old lady maybe 120lbs or whatever he said! She was shredded in the pics I saw.
Where is this? Madness.
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So you're related to Bostin?
Am I owning real estate in your mind? :D ;D
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Oof! C'mon Bevo, even you have to admit that was funny ;D
By any chance do you know if tbombz is still selling his bathmate?
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Where is this? Madness.
It was in one of Leo Rex's videos with Bostin. He might have said that she was stage 3 but it was just based on one recent blood test. I was more impressed by her diet, that's just nuts. Decades of protein only.
I think Bostin is in a vulnerable state now because he is shooting all kinds of things now that he feels all is lost anyway so what does it matter. He keeps IVing stuff that is not supposed to be put in veins. He's going to have an accident one of these days, like a heart attack. He mentioned he had shot GHB. Said he would like to IV test suspension. That's an accident waiting to happen.
Regarding stopping foolish practises, there's this youtube powerlifter named Pete Rubish. He used to train in the same gym as Dallas McCarver and when Dallas died he was scared straight and came off a 9 year cycle.
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It was in one of Leo Rex's videos with Bostin. He might have said that she was stage 3 but it was just based on one recent blood test. I was more impressed by her diet, that's just nuts. Decades of protein only.
I think Bostin is in a vulnerable state now because he is shooting all kinds of things now that he feels all is lost anyway so what does it matter. He keeps IVing stuff that is not supposed to be put in veins. He's going to have an accident one of these days, like a heart attack. He mentioned he had shot GHB. Said he would like to IV test suspension. That's an accident waiting to happen.
Regarding stopping foolish practises, there's this youtube powerlifter named Pete Rubish. He used to train in the same gym as Dallas McCarver and when Dallas died he was scared straight and came off a 9 year cycle.
This kids nuts.....when I was told I had Cancer I quit smoking immediately after 52 years of doing so...........I didn`t increase my smoking to a carton a day cuz I figured I was a goner.
He`s not too bright and surely isn`t much of a fighter.
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He's an idiot.
Basically a doorknob.
He destroyed his life and will die very young.
Another example of why i don't want him on my insurance plan. ;D
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He's an idiot.
Basically a doorknob.
He destroyed his life and will die very young.
Another example of why i don't want him on my insurance plan. ;D
I do give him credit for winning his one and only one plastic trophy after using all that shit......you`d think he would have at least won at least one or two Olympias.
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I do give him credit for winning his one and only one plastic trophy after using all that shit......you`d think he would have at least won at least one or two Olympias.
I do credit him for being a real bodybuilder and telling truths about the industry.
But he's still a doorknob. ;D
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I do credit him for being a real bodybuilder and telling truths about the industry.
But he's still a doorknob. ;D
Yeah but we all knew the truth just the bobuilding.commers had no clue.
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It was in one of Leo Rex's videos with Bostin. He might have said that she was stage 3 but it was just based on one recent blood test. I was more impressed by her diet, that's just nuts. Decades of protein only.
I think Bostin is in a vulnerable state now because he is shooting all kinds of things now that he feels all is lost anyway so what does it matter. He keeps IVing stuff that is not supposed to be put in veins. He's going to have an accident one of these days, like a heart attack. He mentioned he had shot GHB. Said he would like to IV test suspension. That's an accident waiting to happen.
Regarding stopping foolish practises, there's this youtube powerlifter named Pete Rubish. He used to train in the same gym as Dallas McCarver and when Dallas died he was scared straight and came off a 9 year cycle.
Let's not forget the video he shot last year with Palumbo where he admitted to being on nubain at the time - even Palumbo was taken aback for a moment by that (while managing to keep a smile)
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Yeah but we all knew the truth just the bobuilding.commers had no clue.
Yeah, those bobuilding.commers are indiotised.mans
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There's zero reason to inject GHB. It's most efficient metabolic pathway is oral consumption. Just drink the shit.
Bostins birthday was a few days ago. We spoke/ text.
He's fine.
I'm fine too. Thanks for asking.
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This appears to be the same guy I just saw in one of my old MuscleMag International issues (May 1999, issue 203).
He's onstage at a show, posing at the age of SIX. His parents owned a Gold's Gym in Northridge, CA.
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He's fine.
Derek Anthony was too until he died.
We all know this isn't going to end well.
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This appears to be the same guy I just saw in one of my old MuscleMag International issues (May 1999, issue 203).
He's onstage at a show, posing at the age of SIX. His parents owned a Gold's Gym in Northridge, CA.
Correct! Bostin is from the Woodland Hills/Chatsworth area, he worked out at powerhouse gym there, which is a crunch fitness now. He’s been out of the socal area for a while now
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It's OK - even though his creatinine is steadily rising by 0.3 every month (currently at 7.57), he's bought some astralagus and is getting advice from Beau Baisden, so he's not interested in dialysis yet... ::)
Just the first few minutes covers it
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Still juiced to the tits.
Can't wait for the PIP thread.
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This may look like a Taffin photoshop but it’s not, I saw this on his Instagram. Just look at that forehead! I see many bodybuilders look like this, is it a sign of kidney failure?
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This may look like a Taffin photoshop but it’s not, I saw this on his Instagram. Just look at that forehead! I see many bodybuilders look like this, is it a sign of kidney failure?
Great glute-placement by his gf next to the lil kids face lol
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Great glute-placement by his gf next to the lil kids face lol
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-27-2015/8HbmgJ.gif)
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That poor kid is going to grow up without a father soon
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This may look like a Taffin photoshop but it’s not, I saw this on his Instagram. Just look at that forehead! I see many bodybuilders look like this, is it a sign of kidney failure?
LOL Not guilty y'Honor - but I know what you mean
I call it the 'Beluga' effect - seen it on a few guys
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Great glute-placement by his gf next to the lil kids face lol
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If he gets a transplant and the body doesn't reject it, he might live a couple of decades more. Or more.
A co-worker of mine had kidney issues since he was 28. Is 45yo now and is still having a "normal" life. Had a transplant 10 years or more ago.
if Bostin gets one kidney from his kid and one from his wife he could go full blast again.
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:)
"The dark side of bodybuilding": please tell about the Ed Conner's 'house guests', the G-4-P goings on with some of our top notch 'competitors', and the rampant drug use the DEA seems to have turned its back on.
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(https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/friendly-beluga-whale-260nw-1214840986.jpg)
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if Bostin gets one kidney from his kid and one from his wife he could go full blast again.
LOL at that, but dude - he is already 'self-medicating' again
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It's OK - even though his creatinine is steadily rising by 0.3 every month (currently at 7.57), he's bought some astralagus and is getting advice from Beau Baisden, so he's not interested in dialysis yet... ::)
Just the first few minutes covers it
So his kidneys get worse every month , Does he say why he refuses dialysis ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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So his kidneys get worse every month , Does he say why he refuses dialysis ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Yep, 'because he feels too good' and want to give the Chinese herbs one last try ::)
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Looks like he’s done
RIP
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Dr can misdiagnose things what appears to be a chronic degenerative ailment can be an acute injury issue that will resolve itself in time. When a young athletes bloodwork is off due to a supplement discontinued usage will often resolve the issue. Remember bloodwork is only an indication not a confirmation. You can get some whacky values from somethings that will go right back to normal. Most Drs are used to seeing these types of blood results in older non athletes and will be too quick to diagnose it as typical chronic degenerative than temp whack numbers due to supplementation. Somethings can take a while to return to baseline but a young healthy man can recover if the underlying numbers were due to supplements instead of disease.
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Dr can misdiagnose things what appears to be a chronic degenerative ailment can be an acute injury issue that will resolve itself in time. When a young athletes bloodwork is off due to a supplement discontinued usage will often resolve the issue. Remember bloodwork is only an indication not a confirmation. You can get some whacky values from somethings that will go right back to normal. Most Drs are used to seeing these types of blood results in older non athletes and will be too quick to diagnose it as typical chronic degenerative than temp whack numbers due to supplementation. Somethings can take a while to return to baseline but a young healthy man can recover if the underlying numbers were due to supplements instead of disease.
If he can get his metabolism up to bhank levels he'll be OK. Once he gets his resting heart rate above 110 BPM it will flush the creatinine out of his system and get his kidneys back to normal.
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Dr can misdiagnose things what appears to be a chronic degenerative ailment can be an acute injury issue that will resolve itself in time. When a young athletes bloodwork is off due to a supplement discontinued usage will often resolve the issue. Remember bloodwork is only an indication not a confirmation. You can get some whacky values from somethings that will go right back to normal. Most Drs are used to seeing these types of blood results in older non athletes and will be too quick to diagnose it as typical chronic degenerative than temp whack numbers due to supplementation. Somethings can take a while to return to baseline but a young healthy man can recover if the underlying numbers were due to supplements instead of disease.
Pretty sure Bostin initially came out with this news months ago. So I don’t know if it’s acute if it’s still going on months and months later.
Best of luck to him. I think he should revamp things and go the natural route and explore other compounds.
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Pretty sure your kidneys don't heal themselves after months of having high numbers. Everytime someone does a prep they probably damage or strain their kidneys to a certain extent.
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Pretty sure Bostin initially came out with this news months ago. So I don’t know if it’s acute if it’s still going on months and months later.
Best of luck to him. I think he should revamp things and go the natural route and explore other compounds.
At one time in my early 20s my total cholesterol was 328 with no detectable HDL it's 137 now with a decent HDL at 43 no cholesterol meds. My systolic blood pressure was 210 just a few months ago its in a normal range now again on no blood pressure meds. Sometimes you can get whack numbers and they will come back to normal. Markers are only possible indicators not confirmation of disease
I agree though its time for Loyd to stop everything and do some cardio and veggies until his numbers get better. Him continuing to experiment with research peptides when his kidneys are not functioning is madness
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Is he done or has he just begun?
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/7e1b6e12c395173c07476b05c241840f/562ad9fc2c169b46-c8/s1280x1920/4e79e436cfcdc046c5df6dc9df1e2dd6d328d941.jpg)
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His face is getting the DA look. You know you've paid your dues in our noble sport when you get the DA face and Palumboized body.
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At one time in my early 20s my total cholesterol was 328 with no detectable HDL it's 137 now with a decent HDL at 43 no cholesterol meds. My systolic blood pressure was 210 just a few months ago its in a normal range now again on no blood pressure meds. Sometimes you can get whack numbers and they will come back to normal. Markers are only possible indicators not confirmation of disease
I agree though its time for Loyd to stop everything and do some cardio and veggies until his numbers get better. Him continuing to experiment with research peptides when his kidneys are not functioning is madness
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/high-blood-pressure/expert-answers/hypertensive-crisis/faq-20058491
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Looks like shit.
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https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/high-blood-pressure/expert-answers/hypertensive-crisis/faq-20058491
Yeah man I know I was walking around over 200 for a couple weeks which is supposedly call an ambulance level but shockingly without any blood pressure meds it came back down to under 120/80 obviously I also stopped doing what I was doing at the time was on too many so called organic natural supplements aka snake oils
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Honestly I am pretty sure I had kidney and liver failure previously but the more you have Dr look for death the more they will find. You gotta rise above that shit. Dude is on too much weird crap and trying to get Dr to add more medications who know nothing about the weird shit he has been taking. He needs to own his own shit. I mean how much is he spending on these specialist Drs? All his shit is going to be weird until he cleans up you can't be on 10 different variables and expect to add something to fix it he doesnt even sound like he has an issue if you feel fine and are a dozen supplements why are you worried about taking a hundred blood test markers you feel good you are good either quit or move forward. He is not capable of getting a baseline
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It's over
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He must be proud of himself.
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Honestly I am pretty sure I had kidney and liver failure previously but the more you have Dr look for death the more they will find. You gotta rise above that shit. Dude is on too much weird crap and trying to get Dr to add more medications who know nothing about the weird shit he has been taking. He needs to own his own shit. I mean how much is he spending on these specialist Drs? All his shit is going to be weird until he cleans up you can't be on 10 different variables and expect to add something to fix it he doesnt even sound like he has an issue if you feel fine and are a dozen supplements why are you worried about taking a hundred blood test markers you feel good you are good either quit or move forward. He is not capable of getting a baseline
The look on Leo's face when he mentioned the cysts was a bit of a giveaway - he looked genuinely surprised/concerned
I also liked the part where Bostin's Doc cancelled his 'script for EPO, so he decided to carry on with some he already had in his fridge... ::)
He must be proud of himself.
I know you meant that sarcastically, but you know what? He does actually sound quite proud of himself sometimes - he keeps saying he feels no symptoms, for example, even with a GFR of 9
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"If your haemoglobin is 9 when you go to an emergency room they give you a blood transfucion to get it to 9"
Yep, you should listen toi these guys.
Bostin does seem to be happy hes fucked up, at least hes still centre of attention
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At this point he doesn’t need the BBer identity to be a YT celeb.
Probably hasn’t for awhile and let his ego make irrational decisions that go beyond YT.
From what I’ve seen of him he seems likable and I have no beef with him.
The Leo/Palumbo beef is an interesting one.
I like Leo, but his vid talking shit about Dave was weak.
Dave saying that Bostin would die wasn’t controversial considering his lack of appropriate precautions for his illness.
You would think DA would be a cautionary tale to more people, but denial of who we are can be tough to get past.
I remember Bostin mentioned GetBig in that video. It’s GB though so I’d expect some nice comments if I was a public figure.
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Silly games = Silly prizes.
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So is he dying for us?
Or just getting viewers for his Youtube channel ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Leo feeds his delusions. He's going on dialysis. And maybe ends up just like DA, dead in a couple of years.
And why does he say people on getbig are fucked for (correctly so) predicting coming deaths in bodybuilding. Truth hurts I guess.
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Leo feeds his delusions. He's going on dialysis. And maybe ends up just like DA, dead in a couple of years.
And why does he say people on getbig are fucked for (correctly so) predicting coming deaths in bodybuilding. Truth hurts I guess.
Xactly !
Feeding your body with toxics after knowing that your kidneys are stressed is way more fuckeup than predicting the death of thong warriors in a friendly and caring bodybuilding board
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH
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And why does he say people on getbig are fucked for (correctly so) predicting coming deaths in bodybuilding. Truth hurts I guess.
People don't like the truth.
They want to believe they will live forever.
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Damn,he`s way too young to be dying.
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When he is taking advice from this towel head Leo who has zero medical training aside from reading articles and regurgitating what he reads serves him right.
Nick walker vs Boston Lyod
Who will be 6 feet under first.. the real Olympia!
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He's living, for now, on his terms, good for him, fuck da haterz!
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When he is taking advice from this towel head Leo who has zero medical training aside from reading articles and regurgitating what he reads serves him right.
Nick walker vs Boston Lyod vs Bhanky
Who will be 6 feet under first.. the real Olympia!
Fixed for ya ;D
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He's living, for now, on his terms, good for him, fuck da haterz!
Yep, just like bhanky, true getbiggers
Who cares about your kids ;D
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It's OK - even though his creatinine is steadily rising by 0.3 every month (currently at 7.57), he's bought some astralagus and is getting advice from Beau Baisden, so he's not interested in dialysis yet... ::)
Just the first few minutes covers it
Bostin is going to need a transplant like Beau had. I know Beau personally.
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By any chance do you know if tbombz is still selling his bathmate?
Check his Facebook page.
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Bostin is going to need a transplant like Beau had. I know Beau personally.
I think Bostin said Beau takes 2 grams of Test and 1 gram of EQ as a base now after his kidney transplant. Can you confirm?
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I think Bostin said Beau takes 2 grams of Test and 1 gram of EQ as a base now after his kidney transplant. Can you confirm?
Can’t confirm the EQ usage but can concur with the Test usage. He’s not slowed down like one should since his kidney transplant and has even talked about possibly trying to make a comeback. He’s actually a really good guy that got a second chance on life with his transplant but has not been treating his body like he should be.
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I think Bostin said Beau takes 2 grams of Test and 1 gram of EQ as a base now after his kidney transplant. Can you confirm?
And is he still with the Brazilian partner/GF that gave him the kidney? (what are the chances of that sort of compatibility, right?!?) If so, how is she getting on?
Thanks
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And is he still with the Brazilian partner/GF that gave him the kidney? (what are the chances of that sort of compatibility, right?!?) If so, how is she getting on?
Thanks
Married and already separated from her :D
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Married and already separated from her :D
Thanks for the kidney bitch!!!
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Married and already separated from her :D
No.
Really?
Out-RAGE-ous if true!
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Married and already separated from her :D
shes useless to him now...
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shes useless to him now...
She got a citizenship card and he got a kidney. Both used each other pretty much,
Btw, when did this “Leo” guy come onto the bodybuilding scene. I’ve been away for a little and I’ve seen him on Mark Bells podcast and a few other YouTube channels. Seems like he came out of nowhere.
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She got a citizenship card and he got a kidney. Both used each other pretty much,
Btw, when did this “Leo” guy come onto the bodybuilding scene. I’ve been away for a little and I’ve seen him on Mark Bells podcast and a few other YouTube channels. Seems like he came out of nowhere.
Fair enough I suppose - other bodybuilders with failing kidneys might like to note this idea/exchange rate(!) for future reference ;D
As for the Leo guy I couldn't say - I don't search for much on YouTube, I just follow suggestions from here and the YT algorithm, and he popped up for me in the last 12 months or so because Bostin started doing his show... but he could have been around for ages.
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Leo was a gh15 disciple he says. gh15 messed his mind up, had him doing 300mg of tren a day. Don't know if Leo was on getbig a lot or if he came a bit later to the other forum.
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Thanks for the kidney bitch!!!
Hahahahha guys an idiot. Yeah it’s Milos giant sets that are making you a 300+ lb freak.
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shes useless to him now...
Unless she had three kidneys...
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Leo was a gh15 disciple he says. gh15 messed his mind up, had him doing 300mg of tren a day. Don't know if Leo was on getbig a lot or if he came a bit later to the other forum.
He seems like a bullshitter
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He seems like a bullshitter
But it's interesting what kind of effect gh15 had on bodybuilding. "Vigorous Steve" is another gh15 pupil who says he did some dangerous stuff because of gh15.
Leo is "special". Hard to say if I like him or dislike him.
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Married and already separated from her :D
Looks like the same gal, and she dont look to healthy post losing the 1 kidney.
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But it's interesting what kind of effect gh15 had on bodybuilding. "Vigorous Steve" is another gh15 pupil who says he did some dangerous stuff because of gh15.
Leo is "special". Hard to say if I like him or dislike him.
During the getbig "nasser" run he was the man in bodybuilding. So pretty much every forumcel from that era is a gh15 pupil. I remember ordering from nordic (are they even around anymore? great source) from the gh15 recommendation and got my first bottle of tren lol.
The kigtropin era when bboy etc came on here was weird but some of the best entertainment ever.
On his early forum days some of the recommendations were clear shills. He made a pulp fiction heroin scene type post about how good MTS's tren hit his system. I ordered twice from them and it was bunk baloni.
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Leo was a gh15 disciple he says. gh15 messed his mind up, had him doing 300mg of tren a day. Don't know if Leo was on getbig a lot or if he came a bit later to the other forum.
Why doesn't Leo have residual muscle mass? Weird.
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But it's interesting what kind of effect gh15 had on bodybuilding. "Vigorous Steve" is another gh15 pupil who says he did some dangerous stuff because of gh15.
Leo is "special". Hard to say if I like him or dislike him.
that's because everyone knew gh15 was a top pro. i.e. Nasser El Sonbaty.
... and it was rare back then that you got a "tell all"- pro.
now most pro's talks honestly about their use. Although downplays dosages. Which gh15 didn't.
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Why doesn't Leo have residual muscle mass? Weird.
He doesn't even look like lifts.
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He doesn't even look like lifts.
He is clearly back on anabolics.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CTsWHXGKmFv/?utm_medium=copy_link
Not saying he's "big" per se but you can see he's on and lifting.
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the trend nowadays with the online gurus is to take “moderate” dosages which means just big enough to impress people but nothing too freaky or hard to maintain
leo likes his neck large and vigSteve likes to wear tank tops in thailand and have round shoulders so he runs bioidentical hormones at moderate dosages - aka typical 40 year old natural ex bodybuilder
they all know each other - tony huge in the mix too - living in thailand , banging small bones dudes in makeup and manufacturing SARMs , not a bad setup but he has that lawyer money
leo has a phD and biochemical background - he does talk about gh15
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14 pages....is he done or not?
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the trend nowadays with the online gurus is to take “moderate” dosages which means just big enough to impress people but nothing too freaky or hard to maintain
leo likes his neck large and vigSteve likes to wear tank tops in thailand and have round shoulders so he runs bioidentical hormones at moderate dosages - aka typical 40 year old natural ex bodybuilder
they all know each other - tony huge in the mix too - living in thailand , banging small bones dudes in makeup and manufacturing SARMs , not a bad setup but he has that lawyer money
leo has a phD and biochemical background - he does talk about gh15
He has a a supposed phd in analytics, not really biochemistry.
Wonder if he made his whole stick about being a lion in homage to gh15 and his “lion of Judah” schtick.
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He has a a supposed phd in analytics, not really biochemistry.
Wonder if he made his whole stick about being a lion in homage to gh15 and his “lion of Judah” schtick.
Analytics, as in analytical chemistry? That's as close to biochemistry as South America is to Asia, lol.
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Analytics, as in analytical chemistry? That's as close to biochemistry as South America is to Asia, lol.
Not even in analytical chemistry. Statistical analyst/ mathematics. When I wa trying to catch up on who he is, in one video he mentioned what degree he has. I guess anyone can be a guru if you pay to have people say they use your services and enough money to try and promote yourself.
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Not even in analytical chemistry. Statistical analyst/ mathematics. When I wa trying to catch up on who he is, in one video he mentioned what degree he has. I guess anyone can be a guru if you pay to have people say they use your services and enough money to try and promote yourself.
Wow- that explains everything. Thanks for the update!
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that's because everyone knew gh15 was a top pro. i.e. Nasser El Sonbaty.
... and it was rare back then that you got a "tell all"- pro.
now most pro's talks honestly about their use. Although downplays dosages. Which gh15 didn't.
In a recent Generation Iron interview Milos Sarcev (sp?) mentions Getbig and gh15 ........
No matter how much Romano tries to bring us down we're still the shit lol
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH
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He is clearly back on anabolics.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CTsWHXGKmFv/?utm_medium=copy_link
Not saying he's "big" per se but you can see he's on and lifting.
Ohk, yes he definitely looks like a lifter here.
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14 pages....is he done or not?
Dead by page 17.
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14 pages....is he done or not?
No, but despite him putting on a brave face about 'feeling fine' I'm gonna go ahead and predict he'll be on home/overnight dialysis by the end of the year
It's been explained to him multiple times (that I've seen) that the damage isn't going away and the toxins (uremia?) will build over time, so there's no logic in waiting. Hmmm... as I wrote that I realised common sense will be required, so maybe my prediction is more 'probable' than 'definite' ;D
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No, but despite him putting on a brave face about 'feeling fine' I'm gonna go ahead and predict he'll be on home/overnight dialysis by the end of the year
It's been explained to him multiple times (that I've seen) that the damage isn't going away and the toxins (uremia?) will build over time, so there's no logic in waiting. Hmmm... as I wrote that I realised common sense will be required, so maybe my prediction is more 'probable' than 'definite' ;D
drowning in his own piss
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Dead by page 17.
LOL
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Did Bostin go trick or treating today? Any update on his kidneys ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH Le VroNeeeeeeeee
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Did Bostin go trick or treating today? Any update on his kidneys ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH Le VroNeeeeeeeee
He talked about "installing a port" for dialysis soon. But he "feels fine." Leo keeps telling him to just start the dialysis, it will make him feel better AND, besides, he can shoot a bunch of shit into the port instead of messing with his veins. ::) Bostin loves IV shots of everything. The ghrp-6 IV sounded interesting, said it causes absolutely insane hunger. I would try it if I could get a hold of it.
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This fool is circling the drain.
A young man with blasted kidneys from idiotic drug use and abuse.
Complete assclown.
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This fool is circling the drain.
A young man with blasted kidneys from idiotic drug use and abuse.
Complete assclown.
He's made bad choices but he's the least irritating character in bodybuilding IMO. He is like a child, tells the truth where others lie. He owns up to all his choices, where 99% would lie.
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He's made bad choices but he's the least irritating character in bodybuilding IMO. He is like a child, tells the truth where others lie. He owns up to all his choices, where 99% would lie.
I’ve always liked and respected him for this reason.
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His father looked 50 times greater and took 10 times less gear. The son is a fucking idiot. Will be dead before his old man.
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He talked about "installing a port" for dialysis soon. But he "feels fine." Leo keeps telling him to just start the dialysis, it will make him feel better AND, besides, he can shoot a bunch of shit into the port instead of messing with his veins. ::) Bostin loves IV shots of everything. The ghrp-6 IV sounded interesting, said it causes absolutely insane hunger. I would try it if I could get a hold of it.
Thanks for the heads up...
Isntalling a port ? and he's fine about it ...
I'd be freaking out to be honest .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Thanks for the heads up...
Isntalling a port ? and he's fine about it ...
I'd be freaking out to be honest .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I'm sure he's scared, just putting on a brave face. He has postponed the dialysis because he "feels fine" even though toxins are building up in his system.
Leo fella says he would install a port himself if he could. Fuck that. He would never go through with it.
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I'm sure he's scared, just putting on a brave face. He has postponed the dialysis because he "feels fine" even though toxins are building up in his system.
Leo fella says he would install a port himself if he could. Fuck that. He would never go through with it.
Like others, I respect his honest, walking his own path, etc. But I just don't get the 'feelin fine' logic here. I'm no expert, but surely the earlier you start dialysis, the more cumulative damage you prevent - meaning lower impact on the body, lower need for future interventions, meds, increased longevity, improved prognosis, etc. ???
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Like others, I respect his honest, walking his own path, etc. But I just don't get the 'feelin fine' logic here. I'm no expert, but surely the earlier you start dialysis, the more cumulative damage you prevent - meaning lower impact on the body, lower need for future interventions, meds, increased longevity, improved prognosis, etc. ???
He's playing the tough guy routine, like Derek Anthony did.
It will have a similar result.
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He's playing the tough guy routine, like Derek Anthony did.
It will have a similar result.
His other problem is he’s taking advice from Laith aka Leo. Leo’s clearly just used Bostin for cred in the industry and is a pseudoscientific flog
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Like others, I respect his honest, walking his own path, etc. But I just don't get the 'feelin fine' logic here. I'm no expert, but surely the earlier you start dialysis, the more cumulative damage you prevent - meaning lower impact on the body, lower need for future interventions, meds, increased longevity, improved prognosis, etc. ???
You are right but it's the "out of sight, out of mind" thing. He is still hoping for a medical miracle. When you start dialysis things get "real." I've been afraid to go to the doctors when I've been on heavy cycles, I don't want to see bad labs. It's not logical but lots of people are like this. Juicers do bloodwork when they are off cycle or cruising instead of middle of a cycle.
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Many live 5-10 years on dialysis while a limited few live longer.
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the trend nowadays with the online gurus is to take “moderate” dosages which means just big enough to impress people but nothing too freaky or hard to maintain
leo likes his neck large and vigSteve likes to wear tank tops in thailand and have round shoulders so he runs bioidentical hormones at moderate dosages - aka typical 40 year old natural ex bodybuilder
they all know each other - tony huge in the mix too - living in thailand , banging small bones dudes in makeup and manufacturing SARMs , not a bad setup but he has that lawyer money
leo has a phD and biochemical background - he does talk about gh15
Seen guys who gave up competitions looking good but not great. The just went to a moderate dosing rate instead of pedal to the metal. If they had any brains they would just find another way to stroke their ego and give up drugs.
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Seen guys who gave up competitions looking good but not great. The just went to a moderate dosing rate instead of pedal to the metal. If they had any brains they would just find another way to stroke their ego and give up drugs.
Some try to kill their ego with drugs, like Dorian. :D
Dorian said all human problems are related to ego but ego was what made him Mr O.
Hormones are not just for ego if you're talking about physical image. Extra testosterone really does make many things better, mood, libido, drive etc. I don't know how old you are but maybe you should get on TRT :D
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So many crazy predictions in this thread. Sadly, he didn't make it to 30.
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Some try to kill their ego with drugs, like Dorian. :D
Dorian said all human problems are related to ego but ego was what made him Mr O.
Hormones are not just for ego if you're talking about physical image. Extra testosterone really does make many things better, mood, libido, drive etc. I don't know how old you are but maybe you should get on TRT :D
Did you say Anadrol makes you sleep more?
Would 50mg daily for a month do this?
I'm looking for hobbies to fill my time, but other than training, I fear being disappointed. I could invest in my friend's gym, but for all I know, the government will lock us down again, so I don't think it's worth the risk.
So I don't have great ideas. I don't mind just sleeping and training and eating for a few months until I can find some meaning.
Does Anadrol help with that?
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Did you say Anadrol makes you sleep more?
Would 50mg daily for a month do this?
I'm looking for hobbies to fill my time, but other than training, I fear being disappointed. I could invest in my friend's gym, but for all I know, the government will lock us down again, so I don't think it's worth the risk.
So I don't have great ideas. I don't mind just sleeping and training and eating for a few months until I can find some meaning.
Does Anadrol help with that?
You`d be shitting out your liver on fifty mgs. a day just get some fucking Valium with some milk and cookies before bed....oh yeah you can always snap your carrot to de-stress before retiring. :D.
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Did you say Anadrol makes you sleep more?
Would 50mg daily for a month do this?
I'm looking for hobbies to fill my time, but other than training, I fear being disappointed. I could invest in my friend's gym, but for all I know, the government will lock us down again, so I don't think it's worth the risk.
So I don't have great ideas. I don't mind just sleeping and training and eating for a few months until I can find some meaning.
Does Anadrol help with that?
It doesn't work the same for everyone, some it could jack up. But lots of people get tired on Anadrol. It has been interpreted as being due to the liver being stressed but I don't think so, because the effect is immediate for me. And it's not just sleepy, it's a feeling of having slept deep and well. Dianabol is somewhat the same to me but Dbol is more euphoric. I can feel the dopamine increase, it's hard to explain but I can feel it through my feet lol. My body just feels good, lying in bed going to sleep feels soo good. :D
Anadrol might kill your appetite. Have to try to find out. I would say 50mg would be a good dose. You are getting older as well so you won't have the same response you gad when younger. Many think the gear got weaker but it might just be age.
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Trust me. He's done.
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14 pages....is he done or not?
Yes.
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Did they ever disclose the cause of death?
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Trust me. He's done.
I literally lol’d when I saw the thread title ;D ;D ;D
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“Old Timer”, almost 20 year member hasn’t logged in since December :-\ anyone here in contact w him? Just making sure the old guy didn’t bite it
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... You can always snap your carrot to de-stress before retiring.
Haha!
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Did they ever disclose the cause of death?
The autopsy report suggested the cause of death is from being done
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“Old Timer”, almost 20 year member hasn’t logged in since December :-\ anyone here in contact w him? Just making sure the old guy didn’t bite it
Someone was messing with him off the board so he left GB.