US regulators give full approval to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine (NOT!)

[Grape Ape]

The Pfizer vaccine just got FULL use approval by the FDA.

That means it's safe and effective in treating covid-19.

THIS is from the world of real medical science based on rigorous trials NOT social media hype.

I'm sorry, but your beliefs against this are based on delusional nonsense that only exists in minds like yours.

What are the long term effects?

Do you have a link to the studies from the world of real medical science based on rigorous trials?

[Thin Lizzy]

Howard's doctor went to Morehouse Med School so you can take it to the bank.

I thought he went to “Vinnie’s Medical School and Collision Repair.”

[IroNat]

I thought he went to “Vinnie’s Medical School and Collision Repair.”

They do good work and cheap.

[Howard]

Is that a yes or no?

BTW, it’s not just people in jail who are institutionalized, it’s basically anybody who works for the government.

In simple direct terms, on Covid-19  , you're a wacko conspiracy nut.
You've got a lot of like minded people here to interact with, but, I'm not one of 'em.

Good luck.

[residue]

So, does this mean Pfizer can be held liable for any adverse reactions?

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does it matter? you were never gonna take it, or at least admit that you've taken it on getbig.

[Howard]

What are the long term effects?

Do you have a link to the studies from the world of real medical science based on rigorous trials?

You've got it in your head, that Covid-19 vaccines are dangerous and nothing I post will change THAT.

[Howard]

Here's an answer to lack of efficacy:  When you are infected with the real virus it is going thru a constant state spacing (Forgot that Delta bull, given each generation that's produced from reverse transcription looks slight different from its' forefather.), mutations, so your immune has to adapt Borg Style. Now, the injections on only produce monoclonal spikes identical across all cells.  Get that picture.  Now, what happens when your body experiences the real variable virus?  Efficacy is bish with these poorly constructed compounds.

A virus so deadly that 99.5% of people need a qtip up the nose to know they have it vs. the common flu bug.

From my understanding Pzifer is already talking about a 4th injection.

A very sad day for the sciences.

GThang, you're a good dude and I like you, but you're totally wrong on this issue.

Having said THAT, I also know and accept anything I could post won't change your mind.

Please stay safe /healthy my friend

[Hypertrophy]

GThang, you're a good dude and I like you, but you're totally wrong on this issue.

Having said THAT, I also know and accept anything I could post won't change your mind.

Please stay safe /healthy my friend

lol - hubris to the max. 

[Howard]

More smoke and mirrors by the “Biden” administration

C'mon Coach, even Trump just said he took the vax and advised his rally crowd to take it (in AL, this weekend).
He said it was safe and effective and they boooo'd  him for it.

Sadly, AL and Miss has more Covid patients then hospital beds for 'em.
The vast majority needing hospital care for Covid are UNvaccinated.

Meanwhile , may of the leading pundits on your side advise taking Ivermectin for Covid.
Ivermectin is a cow and horse de-wormer you can buy at a feed store. There are no credible studies on using it for Covid.
Many who try it, are getting seriously ill and have to be treated for taking a poison.

[Grape Ape]

You've got it in your head, that Covid-19 vaccines are dangerous and nothing I post will change THAT.

Once again you have to make an assumption to support your argument.

I've never once said that.

Now, please provide the requested link to the long term effect studies.

[Primemuscle]

What are the long term effects?

Do you have a link to the studies from the world of real medical science based on rigorous trials?

I'm not a scientist, medical expert or a virologist, but I suspect one could make a fairly accurate guess at possible long term side effects based on other vaccines for viruses. Some of these vaccines have been around for decades. It shouldn't be hard to come up with a comparative study. https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-side-effects-and-adverse-events   https://www.mskcc.org/coronavirus/what-s-different-about-messenger-rna-vaccines-covid-19

[GymnJuice]

I thought he went to “Vinnie’s Medical School and Collision Repair.”

 

[Thin Lizzy]

It’s understandable that people would get this worthless product so that the government makes their lives a little bit less miserable but pretending that this is anything other than a massive wealth transfer to the medical establishment is either intellectually dishonest or just delusional.

[Thin Lizzy]

Howard’s Doctor has that same jacket👍

[Grape Ape]

I'm not a scientist, medical expert or a virologist, but I suspect one could make a fairly accurate guess at possible long term side effects based on other vaccines for viruses. Some of these vaccines have been around for decades. It shouldn't be hard to come up with a comparative study. https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-side-effects-and-adverse-events   https://www.mskcc.org/coronavirus/what-s-different-about-messenger-rna-vaccines-covid-19

Sure - look up some prior mRNA vaccines that have been around and compare.

[Howard]

Once again you have to make an assumption to support your argument.

I've never once said that.

Now, please provide the requested link to the long term effect studies.

I'm not providing any links and already gave my answer.


Good luck and stay safe/healthy

[Grape Ape]

I'm not providing any links and already gave my answer.


Good luck and stay safe/healthy

In other words, you make an incorrect assumption, then cop out of the conversation.

At least you can't delete your posts this time to do it.

[Howard]

In other words, you make an incorrect assumption, then cop out of the conversation.

At least you can't delete your posts this time to do it.

It's quickly became obvious, your beliefs on this issue are fixed.
For me,  more "debate" is pointless.

Believe what you want and good luck.

[Grape Ape]

It's quickly became obvious, your beliefs on this issue are fixed.
For me,  more "debate" is pointless.

Believe what you want and good luck.

You have no idea what my beliefs on the issue are at all.

If you did, you wouldn't have made the assumption that you did.

And my views evolve the more I learn.

So, yes, you've assumed and ran off.

Howard the Coward redux.

[Howard]

Howard's doctor went to Morehouse Med School so you can take it to the bank.

Call me dumb ,  but I'm going with the advice of a board certified internist MD .

Some of the Covid and anti-vax nonsense some of you buy into is just plain crazy.

[Howard]

You have no idea what my beliefs on the issue are at all.

If you did, you wouldn't have made the assumption that you did.

And my views evolve the more I learn.

So, yes, you've assumed and ran off.

Howard the Coward redux.

I learned long ago, not to try and argue with a drunk or a crazy person.
In my opinion, you haven't been drinking.

[Grape Ape]

I learned long ago, not to try and argue with a drunk or a crazy person.
In my opinion, you haven't been drinking.

What have I said that's crazy?

Listen, if you can't answer the questions that I've asked, or admit you were just wrong, just stop responding.

Nobody will be surprised.

[harmankardon1]

Mine was fully filled out at the beginning of April. No strokes or other side effect thus far.

Yes it seems that moderna may be better at preventing infection than Pfizer with delta strain. Both vaccines are still effective at preventing serious illness. Re side effects if you haven't had any now you won't have any, I'd be more worried about the AIDS from the cocks you been sucking.... 

[Howard]

What have I said that's crazy?

Listen, if you can't answer the questions that I've asked, or admit you were just wrong, just stop responding.

Nobody will be surprised.

I hear ya and I was just making a goofy, silly reply. It's still getbig isn't it?

Ok,  maybe you are being serious with your questions and concerns.
I can appreciate THAT, but c'mon, no form of proof is ever enough for many who post here?
It's always another question, conspiracy theory and more doubt. It's endless dribble that goes on and on.

Dude, the FDA just gave FULL use approval for the 1st Covid vax ( Pfizer).
This is the "gold standard " of safety and effectiveness . It's the best proof any drug can get.

If that's not good enough, nothing I can say matters.
You're right, at this point any more "debate " is pointless.

Believe whatever you want. I give up 

[harmankardon1]

The Pfizer vaccine just got FULL use approval by the FDA.

That means it's safe and effective in treating covid-19.

THIS is from the world of real medical science based on rigorous trials NOT social media hype.

I'm sorry, but your beliefs against this are based on delusional nonsense that only exists in minds like yours.

Wrong again you naive trusting retard.

 It just means means that Pfizer is safe and has a degree of effectiveness... To what degree is debatable.