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Re: Who had a greater impacts on music.........
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2013, 01:34:37 PM »


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« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2013, 01:36:34 PM »


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Re: Who had a greater impacts on music.........
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2013, 02:04:09 PM »
The 2 most charismatic and talented solo performers ever and by a large margin, both had a huge impact and there is no clear winner.

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Re: Who had a greater impacts on music.........
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2013, 02:13:56 PM »


This is an important observation. EP did influence many great bands.

MJ, unfortunately influenced people like Usher and JB, which you cannot even compare to the beatles or led zeppelin.
If you really want to get technical. James Brown influenced Michael Jackson. And James Brown is probably the most sampled artist of all time. The man's catalog had more hits than Elvis, and was Elvis' contemporary. 

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« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2013, 02:49:10 PM »
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Re: Who had a greater impacts on music.........
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2013, 03:34:22 PM »
Elvis Presley or Michael Jackson?

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Re: Who had a greater impacts on music.........
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2013, 03:36:35 PM »
Shizzo's old band, The Shizzles was quite good


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« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2013, 05:03:20 PM »
If you really want to get technical. James Brown influenced Michael Jackson. And James Brown is probably the most sampled artist of all time. The man's catalog had more hits than Elvis, and was Elvis' contemporary. 


Wonderful. But we are debating EP and MJ, not JB.
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« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2013, 05:04:44 PM »


Wonderful. But we are debating EP and MJ, not JB.
Stop trying to moderate the thread. Let it go as it may.

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« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2013, 05:16:18 PM »
mj though crazy is the greatest entertainer of a time...
no comparision
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« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2013, 05:16:57 PM »
Stop trying to moderate the thread. Let it go as it may.


Shut up shitzo. I will moderate what I want.
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Re: Who had a greater impacts on music.........
« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2013, 05:24:13 PM »


Shut up shitzo. I will moderate what I want.

But do it in Moderation.

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« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2013, 05:32:16 PM »
But do it in Moderation.



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« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2013, 05:37:27 PM »



Always :)
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« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2013, 05:38:39 PM »
Elvis, the king of rock, country, gospel, you name it.  Best singer of all time, could hit low baritones and highs that would embarrass an opera singer, even get a little grungy dirt in his voice

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« Reply #40 on: July 26, 2013, 06:08:51 PM »


Wonderful. But we are debating EP and MJ, not JB.
Well, MJ...more hits, better selling albums, better entertainer, influenced a generation..
Stations no matter if they are progressive, rock, r&b/hiphop, will always play MJ, that can't be said about Elvis.

Both had drug issues=draw
Both had issues with significant others, Elvis liked the Young, MJ, well you know=draw
Elvis got fat, and MJ went white=draw.

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« Reply #41 on: July 26, 2013, 06:12:27 PM »
Elvis helped create and define a genre of music. I've met many musicians who acknowledge Elvis as either a direct, or indirect influence. ie He influenced the people they aspire to emulate. I've never met a single one in my 36 years as a musician who cited Michael Jackson as an influence. Not a knock on MJ, but this has been my experience.
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« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2013, 08:04:00 PM »
Well, MJ...more hits, better selling albums, better entertainer, influenced a generation..
Stations no matter if they are progressive, rock, r&b/hiphop, will always play MJ, that can't be said about Elvis.

Both had drug issues=draw
Both had issues with significant others, Elvis liked the Young, MJ, well you know=draw
Elvis got fat, and MJ went white=draw.


Of course you'd say MJ.
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« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2013, 08:19:01 PM »


Of course you'd say MJ.
Hey, he's more revelant to men and to you (part of this generation), and if it wasn't for him with his Thriller and Smooth Criminal videos, music videos wouldn't be what they are today.

Elvis is not really revelant to today's music.

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« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2013, 08:23:31 PM »
Hey, he's more revelant to men and to you (part of this generation), and if it wasn't for him with his Thriller and Smooth Criminal videos, music videos wouldn't be what they are today.

Elvis is not really revelant to today's music.


I just said, "who had a greater impact on music"

I never said todays music.

And todays music sucks anyway.
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« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2013, 08:26:24 PM »
If you consider ALL things... MJ.... Not just their music, but the fact MJ bought the damn entire beatles collection and owned all of the rights.

When you do something that ridiculously epic, and you set your kids and their kids up with that alone.


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« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2013, 08:51:06 PM »
Elvis helped create and define a genre of music. I've met many musicians who acknowledge Elvis as either a direct, or indirect influence. ie He influenced the people they aspire to emulate. I've never met a single one in my 36 years as a musician who cited Michael Jackson as an influence. Not a knock on MJ, but this has been my experience.
This. Mj is a largely irrelevant to musicians.

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« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2013, 09:02:25 PM »


I just said, "who had a greater impact on music"

I never said todays music.

And todays music sucks anyway.
Well, then that would probably be Michael. About the main thing really that Elvis did, was to turn music stars into sex symbols...and used Showmanship...MJ took that to another level.

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« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2013, 09:08:00 PM »
MJ was awesome, but Elvis had a voice he could never dream of matching. Elvis' voice was not only versatile, but was very emotive, with admirable range and command of a sure vibrato. Note in the examples below how many times he shifts from baritone, to lyrical baritone, to, at the very end of My Way, the dynamic passaggio in spinto tenor A4 territory (with an intentional glottal stop!!).

Just listen:




Well, well...MJ could grab his crotch and yell out "Hee-hee!" and "Cho'mon!" like no other!

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« Reply #49 on: July 26, 2013, 09:37:45 PM »
HAHAHAHA! MJ was extraordinary. Two different kinds of performers; both very rare talents.

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