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I see countless celebrations and can understand the feeling they have of 'justice' for now.
What does this verdict really change? Are people too stupid to see the pandering from the Harris administration, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Crump, etc.?
These Dindus really need to take note of the lesson here. Resisting arrest increases your chances of death by the police. You literally lose most of your rights when you resist. 10000000 guilty verdicts won't change this.
Oh, and thank you for the appeal, Maxine. We appreciate it.
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I see countless celebrations and can understand the feeling they have of 'justice' for now.
What does this verdict really change? Are people too stupid to see the pandering from the Harris administration, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Crump, etc.?
These Dindus really need to take note of the lesson here. Resisting arrest increases your chances of death by the police. You literally lose most of your rights when you resist. 10000000 guilty verdicts won't change this.
Oh, and thank you for the appeal, Maxine. We appreciate it.
It doesn't change anything.
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It doesn't change anything.
Until Dindees start listening to LEO, well continue to see these things.
This is not systemic racism. If I didn't see the suspects in just about every case of 'police brutality' recently resisting arrest, I would say we have a serious race issue.
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I'll bet Chauvin notices a change.
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I'll bet Chauvin notices a change.
How does that help the Dindus? Seems to me just about every day the police have to wrestle with one that is resisting arrest.
Nothing has effectivrly changed, except the media's narrative.
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How does that help the Dindus? Seems to me just about every day the police have to wrestle with one that is resisting arrest.
Nothing has effectivrly changed, except the media's narrative.
what are Dindus?
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I see countless celebrations and can understand the feeling they have of 'justice' for now.
What does this verdict really change? Are people too stupid to see the pandering from the Harris administration, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Crump, etc.?
These Dindus really need to take note of the lesson here. Resisting arrest increases your chances of death by the police. You literally lose most of your rights when you resist. 10000000 guilty verdicts won't change this.
Oh, and thank you for the appeal, Maxine. We appreciate it.
The Floyd family got $27M in the ghetto lottery.
Crump takes 25%
Jackson takes 10%
Sharpton takes 10%
BLM takes 20%
Democrat Party takes 15%
The Floyd family is broke or dead within 5 years.
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The Floyd family got $27M in the ghetto lottery.
Crump takes 25%
Jackson takes 10%
Sharpton takes 10%
BLM takes 20%
Democrat Party takes 15%
The Floyd family is broke or dead within 5 years.
Bingo. We have a winner. That's why Crump, Jackson, Sharpton, etc. keep pushing this narrative.
I truly feel sorry for the black people that don't see what is going on. They make them feel as if they aren't capable.
I say it all the time, if this country is so racist, then why do we have so many successful black people in the US?
How did Harris and Obama get elected?
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I see countless celebrations and can understand the feeling they have of 'justice' for now.
What does this verdict really change? Are people too stupid to see the pandering from the Harris administration, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Crump, etc.?
These Dindus really need to take note of the lesson here. Resisting arrest increases your chances of death by the police. You literally lose most of your rights when you resist. 10000000 guilty verdicts won't change this.
Oh, and thank you for the appeal, Maxine. We appreciate it.
Why does it have to change anything for people to be happy about it? Just 4 threads down you're arguing with another poster that you don't even care how Newsom fares in a recall because you think it might hurt his presidential chances. Why does everyone else have to have higher standards than you? Why aren't others entitled to be happy that someone who did something terrible is now experiencing the consequences?
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Why does it have to change anything for people to be happy about it? Just 4 threads down you're arguing with another poster that you don't even care how Newsom fares in a recall because you think it might hurt his presidential chances. Why does everyone else have to have higher standards than you? Why aren't others entitled to be happy that someone who did something terrible is now experiencing the consequences?
I'm referring to people who think the Chauvin conviction means real change occurred. There will be no change until criminals stop resisting arrest. Every single incident that we see in the media involves a suspect that has resisted arrest.
Hope that is clear to you.
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what are Dindus?
Men without any guilt.
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what are Dindus?
;)
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what are Dindus?
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dindu (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dindu)
Dindu
\ dindu, 'dindu nothin' (non-offensive) \\ 'dindu nuffin' (racial pejorative) \
Dindu (a portmanteau of "didn't" + "do" succeeded by the word "nothin") is a whimsical expression, mostly used by the Right, to poke fun at what they perceive as MSM's portrayal of guilty people as innocent victims. The whimsical nature stems from the nuance of the double negative. Hence "dindu nothin" is an affirmation that the person, contrary to the narrative, did in fact do something.
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I'm referring to people who think the Chauvin conviction means real change occurred. There will be no change until criminals stop resisting arrest. Every single incident that we see in the media involves a suspect that has resisted arrest.
Hope that is clear to you.
Who has said that they think the Chauvin conviction meant real world change? No one in real life is saying that. No news coverage is saying that. It's definitely not a common sentiment. You might be able to scrape up a random tweet or two, but I think it's pretty likely you haven't seen anyone actually express this sentiment.
On a separate note, resisting arrest is not a license to kill and never has been.
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I see countless celebrations and can understand the feeling they have of 'justice' for now.
What does this verdict really change? Are people too stupid to see the pandering from the Harris administration, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Crump, etc.?
These Dindus really need to take note of the lesson here. Resisting arrest increases your chances of death by the police. You literally lose most of your rights when you resist. 10000000 guilty verdicts won't change this.
Oh, and thank you for the appeal, Maxine. We appreciate it.
I would think there are strict guidelines that justify the use of deadly force when someone is resisting arrest. In this case, I don't see there was. I wonder how that was taken into account when the verdict was decided.
I also don't know that much will change because of all of this. There might be some reform. But aside from cams how does it get enforced and found out?
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dindu (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dindu)
Dindu
\ dindu, 'dindu nothin' (non-offensive) \\ 'dindu nuffin' (racial pejorative) \
Dindu (a portmanteau of "didn't" + "do" succeeded by the word "nothin") is a whimsical expression, mostly used by the Right, to poke fun at what they perceive as MSM's portrayal of guilty people as innocent victims. The whimsical nature stems from the nuance of the double negative. Hence "dindu nothin" is an affirmation that the person, contrary to the narrative, did in fact do something.
gotcha
so someone who uses that term is a racist
I wonder why the racist who made that comment thinks that trying and convicting a murderer is supposed to "change something" other than taking a murderer off the streets
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Who has said that they think the Chauvin conviction meant real world change? No one in real life is saying that. No news coverage is saying that. It's definitely not a common sentiment. You might be able to scrape up a random tweet or two, but I think it's pretty likely you haven't seen anyone actually express this sentiment.
On a separate note, resisting arrest is not a license to kill and never has been.
The Harris administration thinks the verdict will change things...
https://www.tmz.com/2021/04/20/president-biden-kamala-harris-react-derek-chauvin-guilty-verdict-george-floyd/
Making excuses for criminals who resist arrest or don't comply with LEO orders. I never said it was a license to kill, but it sure gives the police a reason to use force that sometimes is lethal, doesn't it?
Yep, you are a typical libtard, unable to accept responsibility.
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I would think there are strict guidelines that justify the use of deadly force when someone is resisting arrest. In this case, I don't see there was. I wonder how that was taken into account when the verdict was decided.
I also don't know that much will change because of all of this. There might be some reform. But aside from cams how does it get enforced and found out?
Exactly my point. The true reform needs to occur with interactions with the police. It all starts with not resisting arrest. Resisting arrest gives police the ability to justify force.
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The Harris administration thinks the verdict will change things...
https://www.tmz.com/2021/04/20/president-biden-kamala-harris-react-derek-chauvin-guilty-verdict-george-floyd/
Neither said the verdict changes anything. They said they hope it could be a small step towards change. When you start a thread claiming that people are too stupid to notice that nothing actually changed, that's not just semantics.
Making excuses for criminals who resist arrest or don't comply with LEO orders. I never said it was a license to kill, but it sure gives the police a reason to use force that sometimes is lethal, doesn't it?
Remaining alive through the course of being arrested for a counterfeit $20 is not something anyone needs to make excuses for. This definitely was not a case of police having a reason to use lethal force. The fact that you keep trying to obfuscate the line between "reasonable force to complete an arrest" and "murder" is you claiming it's a license to kill. Chauvin was convicted for what occurred AFTER Floyd was handcuffed.
Yep, you are a typical libtard, unable to accept responsibility.
Yeah, by the logic you've displayed so far, you probably think I'm more responsible for Floyd's death than Chauvin, too ::)
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Exactly my point. The true reform needs to occur with interactions with the police. It all starts with not resisting arrest. Resisting arrest gives police the ability to justify force.
What will never change:
1. There will always be people committing crimes and breaking the law.
2. A percentage of those people will resist arrest.
It is the responsibility and obligation of law enforcement to follow the guidelines set for them when people resist arrest. There is no justification for what happened to Floyd.
The verdict and Floyd's death brought the conversation of excessive force and police brutality back to the public spotlight.
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What will never change:
1. There will always be people committing crimes and breaking the law.
2. A percentage of those people will resist arrest.
It is the responsibility and obligation of law enforcement to follow the guidelines set for them when people resist arrest. There is no justification for what happened to Floyd.
The verdict and Floyd's death brought the conversation of excessive force and police brutality back to the public spotlight.
3. A percentage of cops will always use excessive force no matter the circumstance
Chauvin had multiple complaints of excessive force spanning almost his entire career
It's too bad for both him and Floyd that he wasn't fired earlier for one of those offenses
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/derek-chauvin-minneapolis-police-background-life-2020-6
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3. A percentage of cops will always use excessive force no matter the circumstance
Chauvin had multiple complaints of excessive force spanning almost his entire career
It's too bad for both him and Floyd that he wasn't fired earlier for one of those offenses
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/derek-chauvin-minneapolis-police-background-life-2020-6
I don't know that they "always" will. But I agree that there will always be a percentage of cops who will use excessive force from time to time.
Body cams help.
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What will never change:
1. There will always be people committing crimes and breaking the law.
2. A percentage of those people will resist arrest.
It is the responsibility and obligation of law enforcement to follow the guidelines set for them when people resist arrest. There is no justification for what happened to Floyd.
The verdict and Floyd's death brought the conversation of excessive force and police brutality back to the public spotlight.
It is also the responsibility and obligation of citizens to obey a LEO. Like I said previously, it's a two way street. There will always be some bad cops and bad citizens.
If cops are so racist, why doesn't the media and the Harris administration speak about other ethnicities that are victims of police brutality like they do regarding blacks? White people get it too, but where are the videos and media coverage?
I'm also not justifying what happened to Floyd, but his actions before and during played a part.
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Neither said the verdict changes anything. They said they hope it could be a small step towards change. When you start a thread claiming that people are too stupid to notice that nothing actually changed, that's not just semantics. Remaining alive through the course of being arrested for a counterfeit $20 is not something anyone needs to make excuses for. This definitely was not a case of police having a reason to use lethal force. The fact that you keep trying to obfuscate the line between "reasonable force to complete an arrest" and "murder" is you claiming it's a license to kill. Chauvin was convicted for what occurred AFTER Floyd was handcuffed.
Yeah, by the logic you've displayed so far, you probably think I'm more responsible for Floyd's death than Chauvin, too ::)
Man you just like to argue....did you even read the article?
"Biden says he told George Floyd's daughter, Gianna, her father "changed the world"
And you're right, nobody needed to die over a fake $20 bill and it's definitely not something you want to struggle with the police about....but Floyd felt differently.
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It doesn't change anything.
This. Nothing changes. It's a token victory so people won't riot.
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Man you just like to argue....
This is a discussion and debate forum. What are you expecting, a blow job?
did you even read the article?
"Biden says he told George Floyd's daughter, Gianna, her father "changed the world"
Floyd's death was one of the major news stories of the last year. It impacted how businesses operate, how media operates, how some people view the police. His death did have a major impact on the world. Biden was not being hyperbolic. That's not debatable. That is not the same thing as saying his death changed the justice system. That should be obvious by the fact that they both said that Chauvin's conviction was a small step.
It is also the responsibility and obligation of citizens to obey a LEO. Like I said previously, it's a two way street. There will always be some bad cops and bad citizens.
And the social contract for that is jailtime. Not sure how to make it any simpler for you. The punishment doesn't match the crime. That was the issue here. You keep saying you're not justifying what happened to Floyd , then you go and attempt to justify it. IT IS NOT A TWO WAY STREET. A cop doesn't get carte blanche to misbehave because they are dealing with a citizen who misbehaved.
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This is a discussion and debate forum. What are you expecting, a blow job?
Floyd's death was one of the major news stories of the last year. It impacted how businesses operate, how media operates, how some people view the police. His death did have a major impact on the world. Biden was not being hyperbolic. That's not debatable. That is not the same thing as saying his death changed the justice system. That should be obvious by the fact that they both said that Chauvin's conviction was a small step.
And the social contract for that is jailtime. Not sure how to make it any simpler for you. The punishment doesn't match the crime. That was the issue here. You keep saying you're not justifying what happened to Floyd , then you go and attempt to justify it. IT IS NOT A TWO WAY STREET. A cop doesn't get carte blanche to misbehave because they are dealing with a citizen who misbehaved.
You ignore basic facts to argue. That's what I meant by that statement.
Floyd being one of the biggest storIes of the year is the problem. MSM pandering to the blacks to get them to stay in their lane is what it's really about.
Thanks for confirming what I've been saying all along.
Everyone but you knows IT IS A TWO WAY STREET.
Every single incident if "police brutality" involved a suspect that was resisting arrest.
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You ignore basic facts to argue. That's what I meant by that statement.
Floyd being one of the biggest storIes of the year is the problem. MSM pandering to the blacks to get them to stay in their lane is what it's really about.
Thanks for confirming what I've been saying all along.
Everyone but you knows IT IS A TWO WAY STREET.
Every single incident if "police brutality" involved a suspect that was resisting arrest.
LOL You haven't been able to confirm anything you've said, I sure didn't confirm anything you said.
And here you go again trying to justify. The job literally exists because it's not a two way street. A major part of the job is dealing with people in crisis, so for you to keep repeating this is ridiculous. It's like if someone didn't pay taxes for a year, then when the IRS came after them, they seized all of their property and belongings and had them thrown in jail for life, even though that's not the remedy for their situation on the books. When someone says that's excessive, you say they actually broke tax law, so it's justified. Nooooo. At best they deserve reasonable punishment- payback what they owe, maybe serve a few years. That's how it works. Just because someone breaks the law doesn't mean that anything that happens to them down the road is on the table. It's not a complicated concept.
And, no, that's not true about every single incident involving a suspect resisting arrest.There was Jonathan Price, who was walking away from a fight that he broke up and was killed as he was leaving because the officer thought he was drunk. Then there was Patrick Lynn Warren whose family called for a mental health check and he was killed because he was waving his empty hands. Breonna Taylor was killed in her own home as a result of an improperly executed search warrant. You yourself started a thread on Ahmaud Arbery. All of these occurred last year.
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You ignore basic facts to argue. That's what I meant by that statement.
Floyd being one of the biggest storIes of the year is the problem. MSM pandering to the blacks to get them to stay in their lane is what it's really about.
Thanks for confirming what I've been saying all along.
Everyone but you knows IT IS A TWO WAY STREET.
Every single incident if "police brutality" involved a suspect that was resisting arrest.
It's really not a 2-way street, but instead 2 separate streets. A person's choice to resist arrest and rules for using deadly force when someone resists arrest are 2 different things.
I think I get the principle of what you are saying. If people didn't arrest they wouldn't put themselves in a position to get harmed or even killed. Which is true. But we know that some people will still resist arrest and police need to follow the set procedures to the letter what a person does.
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It's really not a 2-way street, but instead 2 separate streets. A person's choice to resist arrest and rules for using deadly force when someone resists arrest are 2 different things.
I think I get the principle of what you are saying. If people didn't arrest they wouldn't put themselves in a position to get harmed or even killed. Which is true. But we know that some people will still resist arrest and police need to follow the set procedures to the letter what a person does.
That is the jist if what I am saying...
I agree with most of your points here and can appreciate your well thought out (and level headed) response.
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That is the jist if what I am saying...
I agree with most of your points here and can appreciate your well thought out (and level headed) response.
No, it's actually closer to what I'm saying. Parts of it are just things I said earlier in the thread, slightly re-worded. I'm not convinced you're dumb enough not to realize that. And I guess thanking him for being well thought out and level headed is also your attempt at passive aggression directed at me, so let me say from the bottom of my heart that I'm sorry you thought I was mean to you and it prevented you from grasping basic common sense. Based on your angry and immature posts throughout the thread, I guess I'm not sure why such a tonal deviation resonates with you so much. ???
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No, it's actually closer to what I'm saying. Parts of it are just things I said earlier in the thread, slightly re-worded. I'm not convinced you're dumb enough not to realize that. And I guess thanking him for being well thought out and level headed is also your attempt at passive aggression directed at me, so let me say from the bottom of my heart that I'm sorry you thought I was mean to you and it prevented you from grasping basic common sense. Based on your angry and immature posts throughout the thread, I guess I'm not sure why such a tonal deviation resonates with you so much. ???
Woah, man. Calm down. Nothing in that reply had anything to do with you.
I think you need a break from here....go read a book or something.
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Woah, man. Calm down. Nothing in that reply had anything to do with you.
I think you need a break from here....go read a book or something.
Yeah, I sounded absolutely unhinged. This isn't 2nd-grade level gaslighting at all. ::)
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Yeah, I sounded absolutely unhinged. This isn't 2nd-grade level gaslighting at all. ::)
You do sound unhinged... gaslighting??
It's really not that serious.
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You do sound unhinged... gaslighting??
It's really not that serious.
At this point, I guess you feel like just getting the last word will be some sort of pyrrhic victory.
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Nothing changed, hope this helps.
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Nothing changed, hope this helps.
It's a shame that all the pandering by the libtards and Harris Administration gets people to think 'real change' is occurring.
Meanwhile, this panderinng helps to keep the people in control, preventing them from realizing that real change is taking responsibility and accountability for their own actions.
Dems love to make people feel incapable.
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what are Dindus?
It is just another unpleasant slang word referring to black folks. You can pretty much call black folks anything and get away with it as long as you don't call them n.i.g.g.e.r.s. It's ridiculous.