Would you rather look a little ugly and have a good body or vice versa

[ToxicAvenger]

They preferred ugly women in the Middle Ages?  But...but... back then, knights fought and died for their lady loves...

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=tampered+history&hl=en

[xxxLinda]

tox, you're more than a little ugly and i'm not sure about your body or visceral etc.

the whole of your blue post came up



modify:  okay I just got your joke.


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you're hilarious.
xL




Does that mean you approve of plastic surgery for ugly little people with vice versa bodies?
good.

[Parker]

Lol, perhaps, I guess some things don't change. But some beautiful poetry got written at the same time.

Actually women had impossible waists even in the 1920's. No wonder they called us the weaker sex.  Women were swooning and fainting all the time because they couldn't breathe. I would have rather hung in my bed in a loose dressing gown all day too. 

Yeah, whale bone corsets created an illusion of a small waist (and a big rump). I saw a diagram of how the intestines and organs were smashed together to have that small waist.

[xxxLinda]

yeah, all the better to pick her up by.

have you looked at how they used to bind chinese women's feet?  they thought that was beautiful too.

[Deedee]

Yeah, whale bone corsets created an illusion of a small waist (and a big rump). I saw a diagram of how the intestines and organs were smashed together to have that small waist.

I've also heard that this fashion was the reason why many childbirths were... unsuccessful. They wore them until it absolutely wasn't physically possible anymore. But then again, look at all the things we do to ourselves in the name of beauty today. Men too, not to such a great degree, but almost heading there.

The foot binding thing was even more disgusting... apparently as the gnarled toes festered and broke under the bindings, they took on this terrible, awful odor, which men found extremely erotic. 

[xxxLinda]

look at all the things we do to ourselves in the name of beauty today. Men too, not to such a great degree, but almost heading there.

I wanna have the last post on this topic, but i doubt you'll allow me.

Anyways, i advise that you leave it to Mother Nature.  You've earned those wrinkles.



I'll never dye my hair.  I'm even thinking I'll be one of the very last of the last generation to do old.
I can't wait to go from brunette to silver gray, missing blonde on the way. xL

[Cap]

Does that mean you're not even a celebrity either?



ps: to the rest of the posters
'tis funny that you only mentioned american, mostly gay, extremely rich & good cooking women...


what you watching on tv nowadays?  they've just got Ugly Betty on here in England, the last 2 -3 weeks, i've watched it, is it any good (I used to work in publishing blah blah, I did). 


does she turn from ugly duckling into swan song?


don't tell me
xL

Lol.  I mentioned who is famous and ugly.  I'm sure there are more but those came to mind.  The Queen of England is and was butt ugly from what I have seen.  Serena Williams is ugly and so is Venus.  I could think and think if you want...

A good body is one like Jessica Simpson IMO.  Not anorexic, curvy enough, athletic, not chubby.  Just right.

[xxxLinda]

Lol.  I mentioned who is famous and ugly.  I'm sure there are more but those came to mind.  The Queen of England is and was butt ugly from what I have seen.

I'll find one from 1953 and you judge (you're showing your age)


we'll discuss the Williams sisters later...  I wouldn't have thought that you'd have noticed their faces.

[Deedee]

I think women from the 40's and 50's are classic and beautiful.  If I had to pic one famous good looking woman to marry, Audrey Hepburn, hands down.  Breakfast at Tiffany's showed her beauty.  Yea that was corny but she was gorgeous.

I agree!! Audrey Hepburn has to be the most beautiful woman from that era. Grace Kelly had something too, but Audrey was absolutely gorgeous.

[xxxLinda]

you're going way off topic and i cannot post the pix of our beautiful Queen was she was 16 with a 16" waist.  Volupturous.


Yah, Audrey is the ultimate brunette icon.  She had a fab face, but no curves..




good night, gotta go, I've got the gas man and the plumbers in tomorrow, so must be up and dressed by 8am.  It's 12:18 in the morning, so that's maybe my 8 hours beauty sleep.


the answer to this thread is that we'd all rather look lovely and some of us do.
xL

[xxxLinda]

Nay worries, I always turn off the gas. 

I just forgot to blow out a candle one night, okay?  I've just about nearly finished cleaning up that fantastic soot mess, that fire disaster, 6 months ago.

thanks.



Dorothy Parker
Resume


Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.


c1936

[Fury]

Ahh, it's nice getting the best of both worlds.

[Parker]

It seems that women when they are sleeping with, aka dating, is the word to keep women from feeling bad, with dudes they want a man who has a nice body and face, but when they marry, they want a man who won't run away, aka slight overweight and average face.
A study was done where women would pic out pictures of guys they would marry. Overwhelmingly the women picked average guys.

[xxxLinda]

okay, we don't care if you look a little ugly and have a nasty body, or whateverversa,
we just like nice guys.


kidding,
Linda
xxx

[tu_holmes]

okay, we don't care if you look a little ugly and have a nasty body, or whateverversa,
we just like nice guys.


kidding,
Linda
xxx

Come on Linda... women like guys who treat them like shit... I know that you talk about "nice guys", but if a guy comes along and he's great to you, you step all over him... Only when he's a bit of a dick does he get enough respect that you want to go out with him in the first place.

[Deedee]

Come on Linda... women like guys who treat them like shit... I know that you talk about "nice guys", but if a guy comes along and he's great to you, you step all over him... Only when he's a bit of a dick does he get enough respect that you want to go out with him in the first place.

I think there's a big difference between men who treat women like dirt, and those who are self-assured, confident, and a little bit aloof.  Any women who actually likes being abused and treated badly and looks for it, has serious self-esteem issues.  I can't imagine who would want to waste their time being with someone like that in the first place.

[tu_holmes]

Women discriminate based on height.  Just learned that.  That's a bummer for guys.  I guess body does matter.

Oh, I coulda told you that... I once asked a girl out who was 5'9" or so... I'm 5'6"... she straight up said I was "too short".

I was dumbfounded... wonder if she's living in a trailer right now?

[Cap]

Oh, I coulda told you that... I once asked a girl out who was 5'9" or so... I'm 5'6"... she straight up said I was "too short".

I was dumbfounded... wonder if she's living in a trailer right now?

No I mean, you could be rich, better looking, etc and height wins.  It kind of contradicts the gold digger theory in some respects.  Kinda lame if you ask me

[Parker]

No I mean, you could be rich, better looking, etc and height wins.  It kind of contradicts the gold digger theory in some respects.  Kinda lame if you ask me

Dude, I'm 5'5", and all the women I have dated were 5'7-5'11. Don't know why, but women who are shorter than me pass me by (except for freaky chicks)

But I have noticed that very short (5'0-5'2) and petite women have a fierce Napoloean Complex, more so than a guy. I'm talking rabid Raccoon type of mentality.

[tu_holmes]

No I mean, you could be rich, better looking, etc and height wins.  It kind of contradicts the gold digger theory in some respects.  Kinda lame if you ask me

It's amazingly lame... Believe me, at the time I was much better off financially than this girl, decent shape, and hardly ugly... She just said I was too short... she even said it to other people who were like WTF?

Very weird.

[Deedee]

Women discriminate based on height.  Just learned that.  That's a bummer for guys.  I guess body does matter.

Why do you call physical preferences discriminating? Or are you just referring to this particular preference as discriminating because it's a "woman's" preference.  For instance, is it somehow less discriminating for a man to prefer being with a beautiful woman rather than her mediocre counterpart?  Do you think it's discrimination that you, like many men, prefer women with double deedee's 

Is this an example of double standard?  Is it okay for a man to have physical preferences, and yet women are supposed to act on some kind of higher plane and not be concerned with the physical? Just curious.

[tu_holmes]

Why do you call physical preferences discriminating? Or are you just referring to this particular preference as discriminating because it's a "woman's" preference.  For instance, is it somehow less discriminating for a man to prefer being with a beautiful woman rather than her mediocre counterpart?  Do you think it's discrimination that you, like many men, prefer women with double deedee's 

Is this an example of double standard?  Is it okay for a man to have physical preferences, and yet women are supposed to act on some kind of higher plane and not be concerned with the physical? Just curious.

I'm ok with preferences... that's not a real big deal, but height as a requirement? I mean, I could see saying you're short because you have a hump back, I get it... But height? Dag... that's just such a low priority on the list.

Perhaps that's the difference between men and women... No guy cares how tall or short a woman is... we just don't care about that.

Women do I guess.

[Deedee]

I'm ok with preferences... that's not a real big deal, but height as a requirement? I mean, I could see saying you're short because you have a hump back, I get it... But height? Dag... that's just such a low priority on the list.

Perhaps that's the difference between men and women... No guy cares how tall or short a woman is... we just don't care about that.

Women do I guess.

I think that's just your personal perception.  There are lots of men who prefer tall, leggy model types and won't be with anyone else.  There are also lots of men who ONLY go with women who have big breasts. Or who are raven-haired, or blonde. It's all the same thing.

[tu_holmes]

I think that's just your personal perception.  There are lots of men who prefer tall, leggy model types and won't be with anyone else.  There are also lots of men who ONLY go with women who have big breasts. Or who are raven-haired, or blonde. It's all the same thing.

I said we all have preferences... I've honestly never known a guy to have a height requirement... that's all I'm saying... I know lots of guys, and I've never heard a guy say, "Well, she's too tall." or "Nah, she's too short."

That's all I'm saying... a preference based strictly on height alone... I've just never heard a guy say that.

[AVBG]

I said we all have preferences... I've honestly never known a guy to have a height requirement... that's all I'm saying... I know lots of guys, and I've never heard a guy say, "Well, she's too tall." or "Nah, she's too short."

That's all I'm saying... a preference based strictly on height alone... I've just never heard a guy say that.

Hey Tu, what's up man?

Gee I'm lucky I have been blessed with a good body and good looks