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Title: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: IroNat on June 02, 2022, 02:31:58 PM
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 03, 2022, 11:32:18 AM
We are fucked if this doesn't change soon.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: IroNat on June 03, 2022, 03:20:38 PM
Fuck unto others before they fuck unto you.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: chaos on June 03, 2022, 06:03:55 PM
Seeing $6.49-$6.89 today. FUCK YOU JOE BIDEN!!!!!
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 04, 2022, 05:48:18 AM
Fuel prices are a killer. I’m in construction and it has affected everything in terms of driving up costs.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: chaos on June 04, 2022, 08:11:45 AM
Fuel prices are a killer. I’m in construction and it has affected everything in terms of driving up costs.
EVERYTHING has skyrocketed. Electronic components are hitting us huge right now.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: TheGrinch on June 04, 2022, 09:30:41 AM
Blue Wave in November baby $$$$


PEDO for POTUS 2024!!
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: IroNat on June 04, 2022, 09:33:10 AM
I found much of that video interesting.

However, predictions of the future rarely come true.

The greed of man will cause the various producers, including shale frackers to once again up production.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 04, 2022, 10:48:51 AM
I found much of that video interesting.

However, predictions of the future rarely come true.

The greed of man will cause the various producers, including shale frackers to once again up production.
No greed in producing energy.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: IroNat on June 04, 2022, 10:57:07 AM
No greed in producing energy.

Of course there is greed in producing energy.

Do you think the oil producers, coal miners, utilities are doing all that work out of altruism?

Does OPEC run a charity?  Exxon?  BP?

Is gasoline sold at cost or profit?
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 04, 2022, 12:14:10 PM
Of course there is greed in producing energy.

Do you think the oil producers, coal miners, utilities are doing all that work out of altruism?

Does OPEC run a charity?  Exxon?  BP?

Is gasoline sold at cost or profit?
That is survival not greed. Do you think society can sustain itself with solar and wind energy?
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Moontrane on June 04, 2022, 07:13:04 PM
https://nypost.com/2022/06/04/gas-nears-10-a-gallon-at-california-station-tops-5-in-nyc/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

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Gas has nearly reached an incredible $10 a gallon

"A Chevron station in the coastal village of Mendocino about 175 miles north of San Francisco was charging $9.60 a gallon for regular on Friday afternoon.

That’s more than $3 a gallon above the state average of $6.30, and $4.78 higher than the national average of $4.82, according to AAA.

But individual stations throughout the country are charging more than the average, including one LA station that topped $8 on Friday."
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Skeletor on June 04, 2022, 07:49:07 PM
https://nypost.com/2022/06/04/gas-nears-10-a-gallon-at-california-station-tops-5-in-nyc/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/gas-prices-01.jpeg?quality=75&strip=all)

Gas has nearly reached an incredible $10 a gallon

"A Chevron station in the coastal village of Mendocino about 175 miles north of San Francisco was charging $9.60 a gallon for regular on Friday afternoon.

That’s more than $3 a gallon above the state average of $6.30, and $4.78 higher than the national average of $4.82, according to AAA.

But individual stations throughout the country are charging more than the average, including one LA station that topped $8 on Friday."

(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/05/president-biden-inflation-4.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1535)
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2022, 09:46:13 AM
I posted this a couple of weeks ago

Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Dos Equis on June 06, 2022, 02:05:08 PM
https://nypost.com/2022/06/04/gas-nears-10-a-gallon-at-california-station-tops-5-in-nyc/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/gas-prices-01.jpeg?quality=75&strip=all)

Gas has nearly reached an incredible $10 a gallon

"A Chevron station in the coastal village of Mendocino about 175 miles north of San Francisco was charging $9.60 a gallon for regular on Friday afternoon.

That’s more than $3 a gallon above the state average of $6.30, and $4.78 higher than the national average of $4.82, according to AAA.

But individual stations throughout the country are charging more than the average, including one LA station that topped $8 on Friday."

Insane. 
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 06, 2022, 05:35:36 PM
Fuel prices are a killer. I’m in construction and it has affected everything in terms of driving up costs.

We've had a few large developments that were canceled due to the increase in labor and material cost.

We were going to develop a 100 acre subdivision, but the cost in materials was 40% higher than anticipated.

Some materials cannot be found unless you wait 8 months.

Electrical transformers have a 10 month lead time.

6" PVC pipe is so expensive we are using 8" instead.

Steel is through the roof.

Suppliers will not promise you any materials unless you pay 100% up front, that gets you on the list.

It's becoming a logistical nightmare to complete a large project on a schedule.

Have a project that was finished 3 months ago, but they can't get an occupancy permit because they haven't installed the streetlights yet, which have a 4 month lead time. So the project is just sitting there costing the owner money while we wait for 3 fucking lights.

Another project we can't even find a contractor to bid on it because it's in a remote area and they don't want to spend all the money on fuel and housing for employees. They originally bid almost 50% higher than our estimate, when we tried to negotiate they said if we require a reduction in cost they will back out and walk from the bid.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 08, 2022, 05:19:57 PM
We've had a few large developments that were canceled due to the increase in labor and material cost.

We were going to develop a 100 acre subdivision, but the cost in materials was 40% higher than anticipated.

Some materials cannot be found unless you wait 8 months.

Electrical transformers have a 10 month lead time.

6" PVC pipe is so expensive we are using 8" instead.

Steel is through the roof.

Suppliers will not promise you any materials unless you pay 100% up front, that gets you on the list.

It's becoming a logistical nightmare to complete a large project on a schedule.

Have a project that was finished 3 months ago, but they can't get an occupancy permit because they haven't installed the streetlights yet, which have a 4 month lead time. So the project is just sitting there costing the owner money while we wait for 3 fucking lights.

Another project we can't even find a contractor to bid on it because it's in a remote area and they don't want to spend all the money on fuel and housing for employees. They originally bid almost 50% higher than our estimate, when we tried to negotiate they said if we require a reduction in cost they will back out and walk from the bid.

My fuel expenses have tripled since May 2020. Lead times on equipment are crazy and used iron is going for way over real value. The thought has crossed my mind to liquidate everything now while it’s still hot and ride off into the sunset, after finishing all of my current projects with long term rentals.

I’ve seen lead times on pipe so far out, that municipalities are switching to HDPE instead of RCP. Some, are just willing to waive LD’s on jobs but that doesn’t do the contractor any good. Fuel is murdering everything. Surcharges on stone, sand and fill by the ton. Trucking has gone up 25% hourly rates. It’s going to just get to the point where all of the developers say, “fuck it” and wait this thing out. I’m already seeing it with some of the older guys who’ve already made their money.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: AbrahamG on June 09, 2022, 05:32:43 PM

By Mark Sumner — June 9, 2022

So far in 2022, national gas prices have averaged $3.77 for the year. That number is almost certain to go up; current prices are hovering around $4.70. Efforts to restrict Russia’s access to the global oil market are creating a shortfall that currently has oil trading at around $120 per barrel. But no matter how many times somber newsreaders talk about these record highs, the truth is, we’ve been here before—and not that long ago.

There have been several points in the past where the price of gas was well above the equivalent of $4 in current cash. That includes 2008, when the average over the whole year was $4.32, and 2012, when it was $4.47. That’s not a one-week high—in both years, inflation-adjusted prices were above the current level for brief periods—that’s an average across the whole year.


Here’s a graphic you’re unlikely to have seen on the news when the Very Serious People are making vague statements about how President Biden’s policies have affected oil prices.

graph of oil production
Oil production crashed under Trump after years of steady increases under Obama
The greatest single drop in U.S. oil production in history happened under Donald Trump. This came even as Trump was chopping away environmental regulations and delaying higher requirements for automobile mileage. It happened in spite of Trump authorizing pipelines and drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, and opening up national parks to exploitation. It happened because Trump so mismanaged the economy under the pandemic that not even his favorite industry could avoid taking a nose dive.

Trump’s handling of the economy was so chaotic that it created a disruption in oil production from which the industry has still not recovered. That’s something that both Republicans and the media pretend never happened.

Since Trump left office, U.S. production has gone up, not down. The fact that prices were increasing before Russia’s invasion is explained by two simple facts: 1) Speculators were already doing what they do—speculating—by guessing that Russia was going to invade, and 2) Joe Biden’s economic policies were driving up growth in the U.S. generating a rising demand for oil.

In addition to driving the economy off yet another Republican cliff, Trump contributed to those prices at the pump in another big way. President Obama had put in place fuel efficiency guidelines that required 5% increases each year through 2026. Under Obama, manufacturers would have been required to reach 54.5 mpg efficiency for both cars and light-duty trucks by model year 2025. Current efficiency requirements would be 48 mpg.

But as soon as he reached office, Trump began the process of rolling back those requirements. It became official in 2020, but the Obama requirements were never applied by the Trump Department of Transportation under Elaine Chao (Mitch McConnell’s wife). Under Trump, automakers had until 2026 to reach just 32 mpg. Over the course of his four years in the White House, the requirements for light trucks increased just over 1 mpg.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: The Gov on June 09, 2022, 05:57:49 PM
By Mark Sumner — June 9, 2022

So far in 2022, national gas prices have averaged $3.77 for the year. That number is almost certain to go up; current prices are hovering around $4.70. Efforts to restrict Russia’s access to the global oil market are creating a shortfall that currently has oil trading at around $120 per barrel. But no matter how many times somber newsreaders talk about these record highs, the truth is, we’ve been here before—and not that long ago.

There have been several points in the past where the price of gas was well above the equivalent of $4 in current cash. That includes 2008, when the average over the whole year was $4.32, and 2012, when it was $4.47. That’s not a one-week high—in both years, inflation-adjusted prices were above the current level for brief periods—that’s an average across the whole year.


Here’s a graphic you’re unlikely to have seen on the news when the Very Serious People are making vague statements about how President Biden’s policies have affected oil prices.

graph of oil production
Oil production crashed under Trump after years of steady increases under Obama
The greatest single drop in U.S. oil production in history happened under Donald Trump. This came even as Trump was chopping away environmental regulations and delaying higher requirements for automobile mileage. It happened in spite of Trump authorizing pipelines and drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, and opening up national parks to exploitation. It happened because Trump so mismanaged the economy under the pandemic that not even his favorite industry could avoid taking a nose dive.

Trump’s handling of the economy was so chaotic that it created a disruption in oil production from which the industry has still not recovered. That’s something that both Republicans and the media pretend never happened.

Since Trump left office, U.S. production has gone up, not down. The fact that prices were increasing before Russia’s invasion is explained by two simple facts: 1) Speculators were already doing what they do—speculating—by guessing that Russia was going to invade, and 2) Joe Biden’s economic policies were driving up growth in the U.S. generating a rising demand for oil.

In addition to driving the economy off yet another Republican cliff, Trump contributed to those prices at the pump in another big way. President Obama had put in place fuel efficiency guidelines that required 5% increases each year through 2026. Under Obama, manufacturers would have been required to reach 54.5 mpg efficiency for both cars and light-duty trucks by model year 2025. Current efficiency requirements would be 48 mpg.

But as soon as he reached office, Trump began the process of rolling back those requirements. It became official in 2020, but the Obama requirements were never applied by the Trump Department of Transportation under Elaine Chao (Mitch McConnell’s wife). Under Trump, automakers had until 2026 to reach just 32 mpg. Over the course of his four years in the White House, the requirements for light trucks increased just over 1 mpg.

absolute rubbish you imbecile...
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: AbrahamG on June 09, 2022, 06:01:47 PM
absolute rubbish you imbecile...

Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 10, 2022, 09:34:58 AM
By Mark Sumner — June 9, 2022

So far in 2022, national gas prices have averaged $3.77 for the year. That number is almost certain to go up; current prices are hovering around $4.70. Efforts to restrict Russia’s access to the global oil market are creating a shortfall that currently has oil trading at around $120 per barrel. But no matter how many times somber newsreaders talk about these record highs, the truth is, we’ve been here before—and not that long ago.

There have been several points in the past where the price of gas was well above the equivalent of $4 in current cash. That includes 2008, when the average over the whole year was $4.32, and 2012, when it was $4.47. That’s not a one-week high—in both years, inflation-adjusted prices were above the current level for brief periods—that’s an average across the whole year.


Here’s a graphic you’re unlikely to have seen on the news when the Very Serious People are making vague statements about how President Biden’s policies have affected oil prices.

graph of oil production
Oil production crashed under Trump after years of steady increases under Obama
The greatest single drop in U.S. oil production in history happened under Donald Trump. This came even as Trump was chopping away environmental regulations and delaying higher requirements for automobile mileage. It happened in spite of Trump authorizing pipelines and drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, and opening up national parks to exploitation. It happened because Trump so mismanaged the economy under the pandemic that not even his favorite industry could avoid taking a nose dive.

Trump’s handling of the economy was so chaotic that it created a disruption in oil production from which the industry has still not recovered. That’s something that both Republicans and the media pretend never happened.

Since Trump left office, U.S. production has gone up, not down. The fact that prices were increasing before Russia’s invasion is explained by two simple facts: 1) Speculators were already doing what they do—speculating—by guessing that Russia was going to invade, and 2) Joe Biden’s economic policies were driving up growth in the U.S. generating a rising demand for oil.

In addition to driving the economy off yet another Republican cliff, Trump contributed to those prices at the pump in another big way. President Obama had put in place fuel efficiency guidelines that required 5% increases each year through 2026. Under Obama, manufacturers would have been required to reach 54.5 mpg efficiency for both cars and light-duty trucks by model year 2025. Current efficiency requirements would be 48 mpg.

But as soon as he reached office, Trump began the process of rolling back those requirements. It became official in 2020, but the Obama requirements were never applied by the Trump Department of Transportation under Elaine Chao (Mitch McConnell’s wife). Under Trump, automakers had until 2026 to reach just 32 mpg. Over the course of his four years in the White House, the requirements for light trucks increased just over 1 mpg.
Which Biden economic policies drove up growth?
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: jude2 on June 12, 2022, 03:54:11 PM
I posted this a couple of weeks ago


He owns her ass.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 13, 2022, 02:25:25 AM
Which Biden economic policies drove up growth?
Still waiting for a list of those policies.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Dos Equis on June 13, 2022, 05:47:04 PM
I'm paying over $70 to fill up, which I do at no less than 1/4 tank.  Not happy. 
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: jude2 on June 13, 2022, 06:50:45 PM
I don't know why anyone is shocked because Biden told us he was going to get rid of this whole industry, when he was running.  That's why I don't understand why anyone would vote for this fool.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Gym-Rat on June 14, 2022, 12:59:25 PM
Joe shit his diaper today??
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Gym-Rat on June 14, 2022, 01:25:40 PM


Why is Biden traveling 6500+ miles to discuss increasing oil production with the Saudis?

He should be meeting with American producers in Texas, Oklahoma, and more states at home.

We have the energy here!
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: IroNat on June 14, 2022, 01:37:20 PM
I'm paying over $70 to fill up, which I do at no less than 1/4 tank.  Not happy. 

Shame on you.  Next time only fill 1/8th of the tank.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Skeletor on June 14, 2022, 01:42:51 PM
I'm paying over $70 to fill up, which I do at no less than 1/4 tank.  Not happy.

Psssh, you don't even have an electric car, you pleb?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUq7N1iXsAEuoGu?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Dos Equis on June 14, 2022, 02:54:03 PM
Shame on you.  Next time only fill 1/8th of the tank.

I try and fill up at half a tank.  Not saving any money, but I'm not nearly as angry when I fill up.   :)
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Dos Equis on June 14, 2022, 02:55:44 PM
Psssh, you don't even have an electric car, you pleb?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUq7N1iXsAEuoGu?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Another arrogant, out-of-touch legislator. 
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 14, 2022, 03:41:35 PM
Psssh, you don't even have an electric car, you pleb?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUq7N1iXsAEuoGu?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Another delusional liberal freak show. 
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: jude2 on June 14, 2022, 05:22:42 PM
Another delusional liberal freak show.
Is that the Jokers mother?
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: chaos on June 14, 2022, 06:30:51 PM
I'm paying over $70 to fill up, which I do at no less than 1/4 tank.  Not happy.
$70? Hahaa!!! How lucky you are.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Dos Equis on June 14, 2022, 06:49:06 PM
$70? Hahaa!!! How lucky you are.

Doesn't feel lucky.  I know they are gouging people in California, but that doesn't make me feel any better. 
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: chaos on June 14, 2022, 06:59:49 PM
Doesn't feel lucky.  I know they are gouging people in California, but that doesn't make me feel any better.
I got a deal at an Indian (feather not dot) gas station up in Bishop, 91 octane for $6.06!! I saw some $7+ prices on the road, crazy stuff out there.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Dos Equis on June 14, 2022, 07:06:08 PM
I got a deal at an Indian (feather not dot) gas station up in Bishop, 91 octane for $6.06!! I saw some $7+ prices on the road, crazy stuff out there.

That's crazy.  We're headed towards $6 a gallon here.  And despite that, Hawaii is one of two states in the country where Biden has a positive approval rating.   ::)
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 14, 2022, 07:32:05 PM
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Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 15, 2022, 02:00:13 AM
In a few months you won't even get Vaseline.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 16, 2022, 03:55:17 PM
$70? Hahaa!!! How lucky you are.

I have to use the pump twice to fill up my truck because a lot of service pumps stop at $100. ;D
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2022, 04:15:30 PM
I have to use the pump twice to fill up my truck because a lot of service pumps stop at $100. ;D

 :o
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 16, 2022, 04:36:03 PM
:o

Yup!

36 gallon tank, fill up every other Friday.

I'm thankful i left the big City and don't have a commute anymore.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2022, 04:39:44 PM
Yup!

36 gallon tank, fill up every other Friday.

I'm thankful i left the big City and don't have a commute anymore.

36 gallons?  What are you driving??
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 16, 2022, 04:52:59 PM
36 gallons?  What are you driving??

F150

They vary from 26-36 gallons depending on the model.

I was running E85 for a while, but after i did a cost analysis it's actually cheaper to use regular octane due to E85 decreasing your MPG. I was losing 4-5 MPG on E85, which negated the cost difference. Plus E85 is hard to find.
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2022, 04:59:38 PM
F150

They vary from 26-36 gallons depending on the model.

I was running E85 for a while, but after i did a cost analysis it's actually cheaper to use regular octane due to E85 decreasing your MPG. I was losing 4-5 MPG on E85, which negated the cost difference. Plus E85 is hard to find.

Wow.  Didn't realize the tank is so big.  Plus you must be getting about 10 mpg? 
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 16, 2022, 05:14:30 PM
Wow.  Didn't realize the tank is so big.  Plus you must be getting about 10 mpg?

It gets 16/20.

It has the 5.0 V8 which seems to have decent mileage if you drive it easy. I had a 2013 F150 with the V6 Ecoboost, but it had so many problems i traded it for a V8. They get around the same mileage until you haul something, the Ecoboost gets much better mileage towing due to the twin turbos and small displacement engine.

I can get 22-23 on the highway if i go 60-65 mph, but i never do. ;D

Now if i'm hauling a trailer it gets around 12.

We use my GF's Hyundai when we go out of town, which gets 35 on the freeway. Since we go out of town almost every weekend, i'm glad she has a car with good MPG.

Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: chaos on June 16, 2022, 06:27:19 PM
I have to use the pump twice to fill up my truck because a lot of service pumps stop at $100. ;D
Annoying as shit. Resliding your card and topping off after $100 is like going inside to get your receipt. ;D
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 16, 2022, 07:07:01 PM
Annoying as shit. Resliding your card and topping off after $100 is like going inside to get your receipt. ;D

;D
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2022, 08:05:48 PM
It gets 16/20.

It has the 5.0 V8 which seems to have decent mileage if you drive it easy. I had a 2013 F150 with the V6 Ecoboost, but it had so many problems i traded it for a V8. They get around the same mileage until you haul something, the Ecoboost gets much better mileage towing due to the twin turbos and small displacement engine.

I can get 22-23 on the highway if i go 60-65 mph, but i never do. ;D

Now if i'm hauling a trailer it gets around 12.

We use my GF's Hyundai when we go out of town, which gets 35 on the freeway. Since we go out of town almost every weekend, i'm glad she has a car with good MPG.

That's great gas mileage for a big ride like that. 
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2022, 08:06:16 PM
Annoying as shit. Resliding your card and topping off after $100 is like going inside to get your receipt. ;D

I hope to never experience that problem.  lol
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 17, 2022, 02:10:54 PM
That's great gas mileage for a big ride like that.

A lot of the newer big trucks get decent mileage.

Depends on how you drive it.

There are guys on the F150 forums that get 12-14 mpg, because they drive like idiots.

My dad has a newer Chevy Silverado that gets 22 mpg on the highway. It shuts off 4 cylinders when you are at cruising speeds.

I drive like an old man, so that helps too. ;D
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Dos Equis on June 17, 2022, 03:14:15 PM
A lot of the newer big trucks get decent mileage.

Depends on how you drive it.

There are guys on the F150 forums that get 12-14 mpg, because they drive like idiots.

My dad has a newer Chevy Silverado that gets 22 mpg on the highway. It shuts off 4 cylinders when you are at cruising speeds.

I drive like an old man, so that helps too. ;D

I feel you.  I drive like an old man too.   ;D  Zero stress.  No road rage.  Makes the driving experience so much better.  And we have some of the worst traffic in the country in terms of wait times. 
Title: Re: Why gas prices are high.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 18, 2022, 12:01:17 PM
I feel you.  I drive like an old man too.   ;D  Zero stress.  No road rage.  Makes the driving experience so much better.  And we have some of the worst traffic in the country in terms of wait times.
The wait times will go down when nobody can afford to drive.