https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/08/trump-says-fbi-raiding-his-mar-a-lago-home.html
Crazy that a former presidents house is being raided by the FBI. Strange times we are living in bros.
Very strange. The Clintons murdered people. Trump sent mean tweets.
Crazy that a former presidents house is being raided by the FBI. Strange times we are living in bros.This is not good at all.
Anyone still unable to see just how much of a threat Trumpster is to the Deep State commies is hopeless.
As Moontrane says, if nothing of any AUTHENTIC CRIMINAL EVIDENCE is discovered, heads need to roll.
Anyone still unable to see just how much of a threat Trumpster is to the Deep State commies is hopeless.Russia / Putin should have declared Obama and Biden Deep State Agents and refused to deal with or talk to them. Should have labelled them as illegitimate regimes. And should have threatened to nuke them unless the public removed the imposters from office. 24 hour notice.
As Moontrane says, if nothing of any AUTHENTIC CRIMINAL EVIDENCE is discovered, heads need to roll.
Obama = Illegitimate President (Forged Hawaii Birth Certificate)
Biden = Illegitimate President (Stole Election via Fraud)
USA has been ruled by illegitimate Deep State Agents. Military should have arrested and executed the Deep State Leadership.
Sounds like democrats are scared of Trump running again and the Jan 6th facade has been a complete failure so I expect them to make up some complete bullshit to try to stop Trump. Pathetic.
The alphabet organizations are the governments terrorists groups against the people.
They have to find something substantive, and if so, so be it; if not, FBI head Wray and everyone in the hierarchy within two layers of him have to go. Shining a light on Trump with nothing to show for it will only reinforce the belief that the FBI is corrupt and make Trump more sympathetic.
This.
But it might be best if Trump doesn’t run and someone more moderate take his place.
America on society doesn’t seem to cope when either car ends of left or right are involved, you guys really need a middle ground.
obsistupid = legitimate dumb assYou suck LurkerOMoron - HAHAHA!
Like I said before, the FBI used to be cool. Now they are simply MBA’s with a guns and no honor or dignity.
Wannabe Nazis without the heart to do any real killing.
You suck LurkerOMoron - HAHAHA!
you people DO realize that wray was appointed by trump himself right? you people DO realize that they have to have a bucket load of probably cause to do this right?...
sure government and politicians are messed up and some are corrupt, some more than others, but to die on the hill of defending a thing like Trump? Come on!.... Pick someone else who actually has done something for the country before they decided to run for office on a whim and who has the same politics/plans for the nation...
Herne is right....paranoid little kvnts that the Trump Train may ride again.
I’m not a huge Trump fan but how can ANYONE not see this for what it is??? We are to believe that Trump is the danger among the hundreds of criminals at the Capitol??
you people DO realize that wray was appointed by trump himself right? you people DO realize that they have to have a bucket load of probably cause to do this right?...
More reason to believe we’re closer to a civil war and more proof that Trump is still the most powerful person in the world
Hey Lurker, have you figured out the difference between a magazine and a clip yet?
Royalty: "jill biden".... is that it, is that what you got? This is what a 5 year old does in a discussion...
always wondered in situations like this for anyone involved being raided..... whats to prevent the FBI or any other alphabet agency from planting shit that was never there to begin with and then claiming they found something in a safe
The FBI operates under no political banner...they go after criminals regardless of who it is. They have by the way intensified the investigation on Hunter Biden as well.
Trump has done a lot of shady things and you guys are not dumb enough to believe otherwise
Do you have any insider information on this or are you going by what Wray claimed?
always wondered in situations like this for anyone involved being raided..... whats to prevent the FBI or any other alphabet agency from planting shit that was never there to begin with and then claiming they found something in a safe
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/20/politics/hunter-biden-investigation-critical-juncture/index.html
The FBI operates under no political banner...they go after criminals regardless of who it is. They have by the way intensified the investigation on Hunter Biden as well.
Trump has done a lot of shady things and you guys are not dumb enough to believe otherwise
The FBI operates under no political banner...they go after criminals regardless of who it is. They have by the way intensified the investigation on Hunter Biden as well.
Trump has done a lot of shady things and you guys are not dumb enough to believe otherwise
The FBI operates under no political banner...they go after criminals regardless of who it is. They have by the way intensified the investigation on Hunter Biden as well.
Trump has done a lot of shady things and you guys are not dumb enough to believe otherwise
Yet you say nothing about what the Biden regime and Biden did in the past present and will continue to do
Very strange. The Clintons murdered people. Trump sent mean tweets.
Trump had a chance to change everything on 1/6 but he blinked and now here we are. He is spent. His most loyal supporters are being imprisoned in the federal gulags and he has done nothing about it. Why would anyone support him now?
https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/judge-who-approved-fbi-raid-on-mar-a-lago-once-linked-to-jeffrey-epstein/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
They need to change the headline to the “fake” Jan 6
https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/trump-raid-not-about-classified-documents-its-about-jan-6/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
Trump had a chance to change everything on 1/6 but he blinked and now here we are. He is spent. His most loyal supporters are being imprisoned in the federal gulags and he has done nothing about it. Why would anyone support him now?
Then why are the Democrats and RINOs so terrified of him?
Because he is going to be the next President and the DC swamp won’t stop him the 2nd time around.
They’re not. The Democrats would like nothing more than to run against Trump in ‘24 (they won’t be running Biden).
The 1/6 protesters were the real deal. They weren’t keyboard warriors. And Trump left them on the battlefield to die.
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The 1/6 protesters were the real deal. They weren’t keyboard warriors. And Trump left them on the battlefield to die.
Why wouldn’t they? There was no “insurrection” he did or said nothing wrong. In case you haven’t noticed, it’s ONLY the Dems opposition that are targeted. Stop feeding off of the literal communist propaganda.
This will only make him and his base stronger, so strong he’s almost guaranteed to win
It’s funny when people say that anyone is scared of Donald running. He got less votes than his opponent in the two elections he ran in. ::)
You mean like Biden did a year ago with Americans left in Afghanistan who some are still there?? You mean left them on the battlefield like that?
Do you have any idea what has happened to the lives of the 1/6 protesters and their families? They have been destroyed. Some have turned to suicide. Where is Trump? Has he ever spoken out on their behalf? Raised a nickel for their defense or their families? These people were the potential vanguard of a new republic. General Flynn had the right idea but Trump balked. Maybe DeSantis has bigger balls. Only time will tell.
Wasting no time, the Trump campaign is busy seeking donations because his Mar-a-largo home was searched by the FBI. There is no fund raising for the suckers who've been arrested and charged for storming the Capital on January 6.
No doubt the Coach has already sent them his usual $10,000 donation for the month. Question is, how much more can he afford to donate to help Trump with upcoming legal fees because of Monday's FBI raid?
"Donald Trump on Tuesday tried to turn the news of an FBI search of his Florida estate to his benefit, citing the investigation in text messages and emails soliciting political donations from his supporters."
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-seeks-raise-money-off-153102270.html."
bragging to the very end. ya gotta love him.
They’re not. The Democrats would like nothing more than to run against Trump in ‘24 (they won’t be running Biden).
The 1/6 protesters were the real deal. They weren’t keyboard warriors. And Trump left them on the battlefield to die.
Do you have any idea what has happened to the lives of the 1/6 protesters and their families? They have been destroyed. Some have turned to suicide. Where is Trump? Has he ever spoken out on their behalf? Raised a nickel for their defense or their families? These people were the potential vanguard of a new republic. General Flynn had the right idea but Trump balked. Maybe DeSantis has bigger balls. Only time will tell.
Why and who destroyed their lives? It’s been over a year and people are still being held. He’s never spoken on their behalf? Are you kidding?
More reason to believe we’re closer to a civil war and more proof that Trump is still the most powerful person in the world
Hey Lurker, have you figured out the difference between a magazine and a clip yet?
Wasting no time, the Trump campaign is busy seeking donations because his Mar-a-largo home was searched by the FBI. There is no fund raising for the suckers who've been arrested and charged for storming the Capital on January 6.
No doubt the Coach has already sent them his usual $10,000 donation for the month. Question is, how much more can he afford to donate to help Trump with upcoming legal fees because of Monday's FBI raid?
"Donald Trump on Tuesday tried to turn the news of an FBI search of his Florida estate to his benefit, citing the investigation in text messages and emails soliciting political donations from his supporters."
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-seeks-raise-money-off-153102270.html."
Nothing can stop them. They would t allow Trumps lawyers in while they were searching
That is what the warrant is for. They don't need any lawyers in while they are searching. If lawyers want to get involved, then they can go see the judge that issued the warrant. :D
The system that you support destroyed their lives,
People are being held and will be held for long periods of time. And others are still to be arrested. They will be persecuted as well. And where is Trump? Show me one statement he has made where he has criticized the sentence of a single protester? Show me one email or letter that he has sent to the family of a 1/6 protester? Show me proof of one cent he has donated to the defense of a single protester? Most of these people are being defended by public defenders who want to see them locked up.
If you’re carrying on about elections, warrants, political parties, etc., you are complicit in everything that is happening. What’s needed now goes beyond the system the globalists and their allies have imposed on us.
That is what the warrant is for. They don't need any lawyers in while they are searching. If lawyers want to get involved, then they can go see the judge that issued the warrant. :D
AKA... Epstein’s Lawyer
Hey dumbshit, he’s entitled to have lawyers present.
You are FNG clueless and delusional. Remember Randy Weaver? or the Branch Davidians? Or the fake hoax of the russian dossier the FBI bought in to?
Being a liberal democrat does not have to mean you buy into every stupid scam tossed your way.
That is what the warrant is for. They don't need any lawyers in while they are searching. If lawyers want to get involved, then they can go see the judge that issued the warrant. :DFBI can't be trusted. They might very well plant evidence. What you don't realize, LurkerOMoron, is the Deep State operates like the Mafia. There are no rules. They will play dirty.
FBI can't be trusted. They might very well plant evidence. What you don't realize, LurkerOMoron, is the Deep State operates like the Mafia. There are no rules. They will play dirty.
It's scary how powerful the left isThey are only powerful because that's the cause the Rothschilds have decided to back. Take away the Rothschilds and others like them and that power will vanish immediately. The head of the snake has to be removed.
Pretty sure this would not have occurred if the dumb ass hadn't taken 15 boxes of classified documents home with him in the first place or had a habit of flushing documents down the toilets.
Just another situation that the moron brought upon himself.
They are only powerful because that's the cause the Rothschilds have decided to back. Take away the Rothschilds and others like them and that power will vanish immediately. The head of the snake has to be removed.
The documents were once classified, but had already been de-classified
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Hey dumbshit, he’s entitled to have lawyers present.
Pretty sure this would not have occurred if the dumb ass hadn't taken 15 boxes of classified documents home with him in the first place or had a habit of flushing documents down the toilets.
Just another situation that the moron brought upon himself.
ahahhahahahaa
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Michael Steele, former chairman of the Republican National Committee, excoriated Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia for demanding that the FBI be defunded following its Monday raid of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago home in Florida.
After Greene tweeted "DEFUND THE FBI!" in an apparent reaction to the news on Monday night, Steele responded in a quote tweet that, "Trump failed to return classified docs requested by the National Archives. A federal judge issued a search warrant for probable cause of a crime. This is not some rando move by the FBI so you shitforbrains Republicans calling for 'defunding the FBI' for once try to be less stupid."
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The Democrats wanted to defend the police... what is the difference. We definitely need the police more than the FBI
So how does this work? The FBI was/is not required to provide advance notice (for obvious reasons). Neither Trump nor his attorneys can obstruct (delay) the search because to do so is against federal law. Trump was in New York. So, someone at Mar-a-largo calls Trump to tell him the FBI is conducting a search. He calls his attorneys. Assuming they weren't already there, what good would that do? Even if they could get there while the search is still going on all they can do is watch. And there is a good chance his attorneys don't hang out at Mar-a-largo all the time, so by the time they arrived the search could well have been completed.
And what happened on 8 August 1974, 48 years to the day before the search at Mar-a-Lago?
Fragile X doesn't operate in real time. It is devoid of facts and logic. That's why it's a waste to clearly spell out how things work outside of La La Land for Qoach Todd.
FBI can't be trusted. They might very well plant evidence. What you don't realize, LurkerOMoron, is the Deep State operates like the Mafia. There are no rules. They will play dirty.True. Of course getlibs will disagree, until it's their candidate being investigated. ;)
Why hasn't Trump released the search warrant and the inventory of what the FBI took?Why hasn't the FBI ???
Nixon resigned. Trump can resign his office because he was voted out of it already.
Why hasn't Trump released the search warrant and the inventory of what the FBI took?
Trump is a Zionist. Same as all in DC.
No shit sherlock. Our only ally in the Middle East. I guess you must be a member of the PLO, lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
Do you have any idea what has happened to the lives of the 1/6 protesters and their families? They have been destroyed. Some have turned to suicide. Where is Trump? Has he ever spoken out on their behalf? Raised a nickel for their defense or their families? These people were the potential vanguard of a new republic. General Flynn had the right idea but Trump balked. Maybe DeSantis has bigger balls. Only time will tell.
Good. No one is above the law....
Good. No one is above the law....
As a former Cop you know that statement isn't True.
Why hasn't the FBI ???
;D. ;D
For all the Trump nuthuggers.. You know who you are..
Donald is damaged goods... This is your best bet for 2024!!!
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;D. ;D
They sent a grandma with cancer to federal prison for simply entering the Capitol on J6. Did Trump so much as issue a one sentence statement condemning this? Of course not. F him. He’s a grifter.
why would they?
It's interesting. I think he crossed the line into sedition. I could see that charge. It was the game he chose to play, those werethe stakes, and he lost. But this is the first I've heard about him having documents he isn't supposed to. I would have expected news all the time about something contentious enough that it ends up with a search warrant executed on a former president.
To illustrate that the raid was justified. What LE sieze in a raid is on the news all the time. Maybe they're getting around to it but silence makes it look like they got jack shit.
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=680386.0;attach=1385964;image)
https://kidotalkradio.com/idaho-grandmother-federal-prison/
Say her name. Trump never will.
They sent a grandma with cancer to federal prison for simply entering the Capitol on J6. Did Trump so much as issue a one sentence statement condemning this? Of course not. F him. He’s a grifter.
Trumpy is all about Trumpy. Fuck his supporters. Just keep sending money.
As I said, the only people dumber than Trumpy is his supporters.
Trumpy is all about Trumpy. Fuck his supporters. Just keep sending money.
As I said, the only people dumber than Trumpy is his supporters.
Who Is Bruce Reinhart? Judge Who Approved FBI Mar-a-Lago Raid
The judge who reportedly signed off on an FBI search of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence previously represented some employees of Jeffrey Epstein and has made donations to candidates from both political parties.
Reinhart also spent more than 11 years as an assistant U.S. attorney, but ceased to be a federal prosecutor on January 1, 2008. The next day, Reinhart began working as a defense attorney for certain Epstein employees.
The newspaper also reported in 2011 that Reinhart was named in a lawsuit and accused of violating Justice Department policy by representing the Epstein employees.
Reinhart has also previously donated to both Democratic and Republican political campaigns. In 2008, he gave $1,000 to former President Barack Obama's campaign and a further $1,000 to the Obama Victory Fund.
In 2016, Reinhart donated $500 to the presidential campaign of former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, who unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination that was eventually won by Trump.
https://www.newsweek.com/who-bruce-reinhart-judge-approved-fbi-mar-lago-raid-donald-trump-florida-1732353
Judge who OK’d Mar-a-Lago raid Obama donor once linked to Jeffrey Epstein
Reinhart was elevated to magistrate judge in March 2018 after 10 years in private practice. That November, the Miami Herald reported that he had represented several of Epstein’s employees — including, by Reinhart’s own admission to the outlet, Epstein’s pilots; his scheduler, Sarah Kellen; and Nadia Marcinkova, who Epstein once reportedly described as his “Yugoslavian sex slave.”
Kellen and Marcinkova were among Epstein’s lieutenants who were granted immunity as part of a controversial 2007 deal with federal prosecutors that allowed the pervert to plead guilty to state charges rather than federal crimes. Epstein wound up serving just 13 months in county jail and was granted work release.
In a 2011 affidavit, Reinhart denied he had done anything improper and insisted that since he was not involved in the federal investigation of Epstein, he was not privy to inside information about the case.
However, in a 2013 court filing, Reinhart’s former colleagues contradicted him, saying that he had “learned confidential, non-public information about the Epstein matter” while employed by the US Attorney’s Office. Reinhart noted to the Herald in response that a complaint filed against him by a lawyer for Epstein’s victims had been dismissed by the Justice Department.
As recently as January of 2015, Reinhart was asked to appear on right-wing channel Newsmax to give analysis of the Epstein fallout — but declined to publicly note his own role in the case.
https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/judge-who-approved-fbi-raid-on-mar-a-lago-once-linked-to-jeffrey-epstein/
Why hasn't Trump released the search warrant and the inventory of what the FBI took?
HAHAHAHAAHA awwww.... once it is issued lawyers aren't going to do a damn thing.
She was part of the vanguard?
You’re mad at Trump because the democrats threw her in prison?
Why hasn't Trump released the search warrant and the inventory of what the FBI took?
What have you done?
Trump obviously supports it. He hasn’t condemned it that’s for sure. And he certainly speaks his mind about other things. Trump won’t go near the J6 protesters. What fools they must feel like for supporting this guy who has completely abandoned them.
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You really are a stupid fuck, aren’t ya? Between you and Prime
https://nypost.com/2022/08/10/trump-says-fbi-wouldnt-let-his-attorneys-watch-raid/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
It was a beautiful raid. The most beautiful raid. It was the best raid. I got a call from the FBI telling me what a magnificent raid it was. They said Hillary would never get a raid this good. I have the best raids ever. Believe me.
How does it feel to get kicked in the nuts every time you post, Benito?
Since I don’t, I wouldn’t know. Maybe you can share your experience with us.
Every.Time.You.Post about politics
Why hasn't the FBI ???
I believe that the DOJ intentionally picked the anniversary.
why would they?Why would Trump ???
Good. No one is above the law....Apparently Hunter Biden measuring cocaine and banging hookers on film is no big deal? Emails implicating "the big man" are swept under the rug and completely ignored.
Can they release it?Can Trump ???
I’m very interested to know what’s in these boxes. If they come up with a big nothing burger, it’ll look bad for dems.Planted "evidence" for sure. The alphabet mafia is the governments terrorist tools against the people and now their political rivals. Sketchy times we live in. Be prepared.
Must be innocent.
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Must be innocent.
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Apparently Hunter Biden measuring cocaine and banging hookers on film is no big deal? Emails implicating "the big man" are swept under the rug and completely ignored.
But the FBI is used as an attack force against Bidens political opponent and it's a good thing? Why are you a communist?
So is the implication that Joe Biden was also doing coke and banging hookers?
As demonstrated on Getbig, Joe Biden is of the age where sex videos are sent to him, not made of him.
So is the implication that Joe Biden was also doing coke and banging hookers?Like father like son? Apple doesn't fall far from the tree? Takes one to know one? Two peas in a pod? One kiddy sniffer/one coke sniffer?
So is the implication that Joe Biden was also doing coke and banging hookers?
If he was able to do so, I'd feel better about his cognitive status.
Good. No one is above the law....
Trumpy is all about Trumpy. Fuck his supporters. Just keep sending money.
As I said, the only people dumber than Trumpy is his supporters.
Fox dedicated a whole segment today on his troubling cough.
I literally put every Biden regime supporters in the category of communist or communist sympathizers and are responsible for literally everything that’s happening now. That being said, communists should be purged
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/trump-shatters-fundraising-records-bidens-fbi-raids-mar-lago/
I put Trumpturds as the biggest retards in the world. You prove it everyday.
Now send the grifter more money.
it never ends. ;D
I put Trumpturds as the biggest retards in the world. You prove it everyday.
Now send the grifter more money.
No one gives a shit 😂
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/jan-6-hearings-not-impacting-public-opinion-poll?utm_source=sf&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twjtn
Those like LNM are merely parroting the MSM in the hopes of upsetting those that not only know better but work harder at living for and giving to their families instead of taking from others in the name of "fairness".
It does not take a smart person to see what the "sinfluencers" of the MSM have done, just someone with that which is now all to uncommon. Common sense. You have it and so do many others here and in the real world. And what is needed is for us to live it. Be well, brother.
Three of the ones who get owned on here more than anyone when it comes to politics are you, lurker/Strawman and Prime lol
Those like LNM are merely parroting the MSM in the hopes of upsetting those that not only know better but work harder at living for and giving to their families instead of taking from others in the name of "fairness".
It does not take a smart person to see what the "sinfluencers" of the MSM have done, just someone with that which is now all to uncommon. Common sense. You have it and so do many others here and in the real world. And what is needed is for us to live it. Be well, brother.
Why do you watch Fox?
I watch a little bit of everything. Including Fox and Newsmax.
Idiot words.
Gotcha....I'll watch a fox clip if it's posted here or on twitter, but can't watch politics on tv, especially if it's one of the really biased sites, regardless of which side they're on.
LurkerNoMore: ... why didn't he willing testify under oath to PROVE everyone is lying, wrong, corrupt (but him of course)..
why did he plead the 5th as well as his adult children on other matters, when he stated that anyone who pleads the 5th must be guilty?
why did he say that anyone who doesn't release their taxes running for president must have something to hide (him mentioning romney by name who eventually did release his taxes) but didn't and still hasn't done so himself and made up lie after lie after lie on why he "couldn't"....
it goes on and on and on and these trump worshippers ignore or, don't want to hear, didn't hear it and don't believe it when told, etc...
the difference or one difference is that we don't worship biden, or any politician, they do worship trump, TRUMP of all people! The man who laughs at them, insults them, "i could shoot someone and not lose any supporters!', "how stupid are the people of Iowa?!", who uses them and didn't know they existed or wanted to know they existed until he decided to run for office....
the man who was born on 3rd base, the man who hobnobbed with hollywood (you know those evil liberal hollywood elites!) and worked in hollywood, the man who had how many deferments to not serve in the military, whose entire family never did, the man who made fun of the handicapped in public at a rally, made fun of gold star families, who SCREAMS AND REEKS of being one of those "elites" that they profess to hate, and they eat it and eat up trump.
yes, most politicians suck and/or corrupt, and yes, there is alot wrong going on in washington d.c. republican and democrat and always have, but jesus christ if you believe in whatever trump says he believes in or wants to do, right wing/republicans you can't find ANYONE ELSE that would do the same things, the whatever trump would do and vote for that person instead of this thing called trump?
Not really.
it never ends. ;D
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Why anyone watches any fake news is beyond me... All braindead / talking head retards...
I put Trumpturds as the biggest retards in the world. You prove it everyday.
Now send the grifter more money.
So says the geriatric retard that is never right. ::)
You know if Trumpy wanted to really back his story up he would release the details of the warrant and the items they seized. He is free to do so. Why hasn’t he? :D
I put Trumpturds as the biggest retards in the world. You prove it everyday.
Now send the grifter more money.
it never ends. ;D
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A U.S. magistrate judge is a judicial officer of the district court and is appointed by majority vote of the active district judges of the court to exercise jurisdiction over matters assigned by statute as well as those delegated by the district judges. The number of magistrate judge positions is determined by the Judicial Conference of the United States, based on recommendations of the respective district courts, the judicial councils of the circuits, and the Director of the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts. A full-time magistrate judge serves a term of eight years. Duties assigned to magistrate judges by district court judges may vary considerably from court to court.
False but what do you expect from fringe groups like Occupy Democrats. Reinhart was not "actually appointed by Trump himself". Reinhart is a magistrate judge. Magistrate judges are appointed by district judges.
https://www.uscourts.gov/faqs-federal-judges#faq--What-are-federal-magistrate-judges?
False but what do you expect from fringe groups like Occupy Democrats. Reinhart was not "actually appointed by Trump himself". Reinhart is a magistrate judge. Magistrate judges are appointed by district judges.
https://www.uscourts.gov/faqs-federal-judges#faq--What-are-federal-magistrate-judges?
That’s interesting.
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At least you're not denying it
You need to do better than that
The raid was set up purposely while he was in Manhattan and didn't know about it then....dipshit
He was given a copy of the warrant and he was given a copy of any items removed. He can easily do so today. But he hasn’t. Why? Why wouldn’t he want to prove his side of the story? Hahahaha
You fucking idiot. They even had a subpoena but raided the house before the subpoena was received.
He was given a copy of the warrant and he was given a copy of any items removed. He can easily do so today. But he hasn’t. Why? Why wouldn’t he want to prove his side of the story? Hahahaha
It’ll be interesting here tomorrow when Garland gets the warrant made public. Unless Trump puts up a fight, in which case we’ll have to wait. Although, since Garland ok’d the warrant, I suspect he’s aware of what it says so it must be something that exonerates the FBI of doing this for political reasons, no?
Totally and completely. Par for course with you anyway. No surprise there.
Warrants trumps subpoena. Is being stupid painful? You seem to be suffering.
You have absolutely no idea what truly goes on within D.C. Trust me on this. Mr. Trump may not be a "man of the people", i.e., a man identical unto the masses, but he is most definitely a Man for the People.
Mr. Biden is as a great many Dems are in public and RINOs in private: A man against the People because he feels they and the foundational laws and documents that were written by the Founding Fathers, are beneath such as he. The laws are not merely "beneath" him (like the common People), but more because he and his kind are above such ruling statutes.
Nope.
Like I said, you have no true idea of what goes on in D.C. and beyond.
“They have to explain why they went for a warrant instead of a subpoena”
Just.Stop.Talking
https://rumble.com/v1ffeob-the-cabal-to-destroy-trump.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Mark+Levin+Show&ep=1
They don’t have to explain shit. They already proved their probable cause and got the warrant. They don’t need a fucking subpoena. Damn you are stupid. Not just dumb or uneducated but flat out stupid.
Rumble? “lol…oh boy”
Oh, but you think Trump has to explain…AOC stupid
You have no idea of what goes on in DC or anywhere else. The “real world” has long since disconnected from your perception. That’s a lot of words to just say nothing. But then again Trumpturds are known for that.
Not so. And in like fashion, I know far more of the real world than you do. If you choose to believe otherwise, fine. I am not here to change the diaper that is your mind. I state what I know to be true. You choose to not believe. Not a problem for me. The truth is the truth, regardless of your petty piety and incessant kowtowing toward the mecca of maroons.
You know nothing of the reality of the depraved and this in spite of the life you have chosen. If you did, you would shit yourself more often than does Mr. Biden.
You don’t know shit. Therefore the rest of your weak ass spiel is irrelevant.
Your constant references to shitting things makes me wonder how often the nursing home aide changes your bed pan. Or else you just have a scat fetish.
How pedestrian of you, Sarah Jane. I know much more than you, ace. Like many people I have met in the real world, you are a pathetic little voice, crying out in the shillderness. A talent-less mental midgie, incapable of intelligent discourse with anyone that disagrees with your pathetic party line.
Those like you have been festering in the worlds of education and law enfarcement for some time now. They are also in the military. They would say a leopard can't change it's spots but a man can be called a woman or a woman a man. And worse.
When it happens, I seriously doubt you'll make it back.
Want to try again. I see that nearly dying didn’t do anything for your intellect.
“Real world”… you mean that one that has passed you by?
The brain damage you suffered as a child and told us about hasn’t been kind to you in your old age. Sorry to hurt your feeeeellings but your real world cRap and reality are two different things. But I won’t begrudge you whatever you need to believe this late for having been dealt a shitty hand and only an internet board as your only outlet for self loathing.
He doesn’t have to do anything. But whine and cry which is exactly what he will do. JUST LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT. If he wanted to prove something instead of throwing a tantrum he would release the contents of the warrant and what was seized. So everyone could see just how wrong it was. ;D
The fact this has to be explained to your stupid ass only highlights how retarded you truly are.
They don’t have to explain shit. They already proved their probable cause and got the warrant. They don’t need a fucking subpoena. Damn you are stupid. Not just dumb or uneducated but flat out stupid.
Rumble? “lol…oh boy”
Yes, rumble
https://truthsocial.com/users/rumble/statuses/108806038904392689
Too funny!
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Too funny!
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Still in a barrel I see.
You’re right, he doesn’t. Move on tard. If he runs, Garland just re-elected him. Get used the mean Truths
LMFAO!!
Between this raid and Trumpy deposition today, you can be assured that somewhere in Trump Tower a fresh coating of Heinz is being applied to the walls.
Gayer than agreeing with an oak post
This is gayer than if you chugged 4 of matt's frozen ropes.
I thought it was only gay if I wanted it to be. No?
That subjectivity ceases when oak is involved, rope gulper.
Court Removes Page for Judge Who Approved Raid of Trump’s Home
A federal court in Florida has removed the webpage for the judge who signed off on the FBI raid of former President Donald Trump’s home.
The page for U.S. Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart was taken down on Aug. 10, archived versions of it confirm.
“No information at this time,” the computer operations manager for the court, the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, told The Epoch Times.
A deputy clerk for the clerk did not pick up the phone or return a voicemail.
The page contained Reinhart’s biography, his email address, directions to the courthouse at which he works, the phone number for his chambers, the number for his deputy, and the names of the deputy and the judge’s law clerks.
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The pages for all of the other magistrate judges for the court remain online.
Signed Off on Raid
Reinhart, who was appointed to his position by other judges, has confirmed that he was the judge who approved the FBI’s raid of Trump’s Florida resort, Mar-a-Lago.
The resort was raided on Aug. 8 by approximately two dozen agents, one of Trump’s lawyers told The Epoch Times.
Christina Bobb, the lawyer, said Reinhart’s name was listed as the approving judge on the search warrant agents gave to Trump representatives.
The warrant and the supporting materials, such as an affidavit outlining why the FBI was asking for a warrant, remain sealed. But Reinhart responded to requests to unseal the material, which identify the warrant as the one used to raid Trump’s resort, by ordering the Department of Justice to respond to the requests, indirectly confirming that he approved the warrant.
The government’s response to the requests to unseal, filed by nonprofit Judicial Watch and the Albany Times Union, may be filed under seal “to avoid disclosing matters already under seal,” Reinhart said in a brief order.
The response must be filed by 5 p.m. on Aug. 15.
It has not yet been filed.
Neither the FBI nor the Department of Justice have explained why the raid took place. Lawyers for Trump say agents were looking for classified and presidential materials. Earlier this year, U.S. archivist David Ferriero told Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.), the chairwoman of the House Oversight Committee, that there were classified materials discovered in boxes of records that were transferred from Trump’s residence to the National Archives in January.
Judge’s History
Reinhart was a trial attorney for the Department of Justice from 1988 to 1996, when he transitioned to being an assistant U.S. attorney based in West Palm Beach. He was involved with the prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein, who ultimately avoided federal prosecution in exchange for pleading guilty to a single state charge of soliciting a minor.
Shortly after the plea deal was reached, Reinhart left the government and spent ten years in private practice.
Among those he represented were Epstein’s housekeeper and pilots, according to court filings.
Reinhart became a magistrate judge on March 14, 2018.
Reinhart’s wife, Carolyn Bell, is also a judge. She was appointed by then-Gov. Rick Scott, a Republican, to a state circuit court in 2018.
Reinhart shared the announcement on Facebook.
On the same page, Reinhart criticized then-President-elect Trump, taking issue with Trump’s criticism of Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), who has since passed away.
“I generally ignore the President-elect’s tweets, but not this one,” Reinhart wrote, adding later that he agreed with the statement, “Donald Trump doesn’t have the moral stature to kiss John Lewis’s feet
Hahahahaha. That’s the point. He doesn’t have to do shit you dumb fuck. Because Garland is going to do it himself. Tomorrow. Hahahaha. Garland just master trolled Trumpy and shut his little tantrum down.
Get used to more kicks in your ovaries.
Spot on!
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So true!
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So true!
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this thread isn't about hunter biden who last time I checked isn't and never was president. this is about your hero the trumpster. stay on topic. Hunter Biden is just Joe Biden's embarrassment of a son. just like Jimmy carter had his Billy. ;D ;D ;D ;D Ronald Reagan had his patti.
this thread isn't about hunter biden who last time I checked isn't and never was president. this is about your hero the trumpster. stay on topic. Hunter Biden is just Joe Biden's embarrassment of a son. just like Jimmy carter had his Billy. ;D ;D ;D ;D Ronald Reagan had his patti.
While I get what you’re saying and it is off topic, I believe it should be investigated. No way Joe didn’t know anything about his sons dealings with foreign countries/companies.Joe's old and senile, what makes you think he has any clue what's going on in any aspect of life. He was just installed by the democratic party as a remembrance to the days of Camelot that were the Obama administration. he's pretty much the puppet that jeff Dunham works. the question is who's pulling Joe's strings.
hands up all who thin biddy joe was already too old when he became president?
So true!
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Joe's old and senile, what makes you think he has any clue what's going on in any aspect of life. He was just installed by the democratic party as a remembrance to the days of Camelot that were the Obama administration. he's pretty much the puppet that jeff Dunham works. the question is who's pulling Joe's strings.
While I get what you’re saying and it is off topic, I believe it should be investigated. No way Joe didn’t know anything about his sons dealings with foreign countries/companies.
Joe's old and senile, what makes you think he has any clue what's going on in any aspect of life. He was just installed by the democratic party as a remembrance to the days of Camelot that were the Obama administration. he's pretty much the puppet that jeff Dunham works. the question is who's pulling Joe's strings.
Garland moves to unseal the warrant served on Trumpy.
Trumpy could release it himself but instead is considering fighting the release of it.
WHY?
Hahahahahahaha. Move along. Nothing to see here. Send more money you suckers.
Gayer than agreeing with an oak post
This is gayer than if you chugged 4 of matt's frozen ropes.
Interesting - any reason given as to why his page has been removed ??
In 1....2....3.........
Lurkio Lurkio Wherefore art thou Lurkio ???
;D
Actually, Garland got smoked out and had no choice.
Kicked in the nuts again….you either have a vagina or they’re inverted
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/11/donald-trump-i-am-encouraging-doj-to-release-search-warrant-that-led-to-mar-a-lago-raid/
A simple google search would have turned up the answer for you. I would suggest you try it next time but you are too stupid to figure out how it seems.
Ahha Lurkio - The Pavlovian response was to much for you to ignore I see ;D
Stupid you say - well I'm leagues ahead of you & your Idiocy .
While I get what you’re saying and it is off topic, I believe it should be investigated. No way Joe didn’t know anything about his sons dealings with foreign countries/companies.
Even if you are right about what Hunter's dad, Joe knew, if you were his father, what would you do? Would you give up your son to save your career? Most parents are very protective of their kids even when they become adults who screwup.
A simple google search would have turned up the answer for you. I would suggest you try it next time but you are too stupid to figure out how it seems.Were you concerned when you're psycho women were threatening and showing up at Supreme Court Justices homes?
Only when measuring stupidity.
Welp…
White House documents that former President Donald Trump brought with him to Mar-a-Lago had been declassified, Trump allies said.
Attorney General Merrick Garland said Thursday that he had "personally approved" the search of Trump's Florida home, which was raided by FBI agents on Monday. Multiple reports said the raid was related to the handling of presidential records, including classified documents, after leaving office.
The Justice Department has prosecuted cases involving the mishandling of classified information, but no such case has been brought against a former president — the one government official who can declassify information at will.
Ric Grenell, who was Trump's acting director of national intelligence, told NBC News that documents can be declassified if the president simply says they are.
"There is no approval process for the president of the United States to declassify intelligence," Grenell told NBC News. "There is this phony idea that he must provide notification for declassification, but that's just silly. Who is he supposed to notify? I think it's the height of swampism to think the president should seek bureaucrats' approval."
Kash Patel, a Pentagon chief of staff during the Trump administration, in May said that documents previously recovered from Mar-a-Lago had been declassified by Trump, but their markings were not updated.
"Trump declassified whole sets of materials in anticipation of leaving government that he thought the American public should have the right to read themselves," Patel told Breitbart News.
The White House counsel failed to generate the paperwork to change the classification markings, but that doesn't mean the information wasn't declassified. I was there with President Trump when he said, 'We are declassifying this information.'"
At the time, Patel did not specify what the earlier documents were, but added, "it's information that Trump felt spoke to matters regarding everything from Russiagate to the Ukraine impeachment fiasco to major national security matters of great public importance — anything the president felt the American people had a right to know is in there and more. We are declassifying this information."
The 1978 Presidential Records Act requires presidents to turn over documents to the National Archives at the end of their administration. Although the law does not specify enforcement, there are multiple federal laws regarding the handling of classified documents.
As the facts stand now, his [Trump's] defense would be, 'I declassified those documents. I am not therefore in possession of classified documents now,'" Charles Stimson, a senior fellow with the Heritage Foundation and a former federal prosecutor, told NBC News.
Trump foes, however, reject the notion a president can declassify documents so easily.
"He can't just wave a wand and say it's declassified," Richard Immerman, a historian and former assistant deputy director of national intelligence under former President Barack Obama, told NBC News. "There has to be a formal process. That's the only way the system can work.
"I've seen thousands of declassified documents. They're all marked 'declassified' with the date they were declassified."
One source told NBC News that Trump as president wasn't concerned with formal protocol.
"We've told him there's a process and not following it could be a problem but he didn't care because he thinks this stuff is dumb," the source said of declassifying documents. "His attitude is that he is the president. He is in charge of the country and therefore national security. So he decides."
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-allies-declassified/2022/08/12/id/1082839/?ns_mail_uid=8b9b65c6-1bb0-4a37-966e-912de1caf965&ns_mail_job=DM365402_08122022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502s6b7ir
The las quote here in this paragraph sums it up. He didn’t follow protocol for the declassification. At this point it doesn’t matter if the papers were about the size of one of his dumps or bomb codes, all that will be looked at is that he didn’t do it the right way and thus broke protocol. I hope for his sake these are benign documents.
Why do ex Presidents need boxes of documents anyway? Saw Obama has a bunch too.
Why do ex Presidents need boxes of documents anyway? Saw Obama has a bunch too.Didn't the Clintons take a bunch of stuff too?
No matter the situation, I find the raid very odd. If this happened in the middle east, the US would be talking about invading to save democracy. ;)
Didn't the Clintons take a bunch of stuff too?
In this case, it sounded like the documents were at his joint and then supposed to be declassified? No matter the situation, I find the raid very odd. If this happened in the middle east, the US would be talking about invading to save democracy. ;)
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Then the attention would turn to his son. Biden and his kid were caught on tape about knowing and talking about his son's business dealings that he lied about. It's not a matter "if" he knew....he knew and lied about it
As usual the lefts little game by raiding Trumps house is rapidly falling apart..just like “Russian Collusion” the hooker, pee gate, the Ukraine call, the two fake impeachments and the fake January 6 hearings where they keep getting caught in lies and altering evidence because they know they don’t have shit all the while locking up political prisoners on trespassing and trumped up charges while not allowing due process.
Whoever supports this, supports communism. Prove me wrong
Your reading comprehension is off again. This post is not about 'if' Joe knew about his son's business dealings. The question I asked was "...if you were his father, what would you do? Would you give up your son to save your career?"
Lurkio my dear Imbecile You can't EvAn get MY age Correct -
I'M 62 -
Quick rusH over To Fact Checkers to make Sure ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D
The correct answer is that one would confront one's son and have this legally cleared and paid for, elsewise the lad would go straight to jail and not pass "GO" nor collect Two Million dollars...
You read right my friend. He should give his idiot offspring the chance to make things legally right and never do wrong again. If the boy refuses, he goes to jail. It is no secret that in my own way, I live my words. My youngest brother was a meth addict and when he threatened our mother he refused to get help and so I put him in jail.
Be well, my friend.
Your reading comprehension is off again. This post is not about 'if' Joe knew about his son's business dealings. The question I asked was "...if you were his father, what would you do? Would you give up your son to save your career?"
Fortunately, I have never been in the position of having to turn in a family member or even a friend. Although I have refused to lie on someone's behalf. It must have been a difficult decision. How did your mother feel about you doing this?
Did your brother benefit from his time in jail? Did he stop using?
On another note, how are you feeling? Do you feel like you are recovering from your health crisis? Take care not to do too much too soon. It takes time for the body to heal. During the acute periods of my wife's health, when she was in and out of the hospital many times, I was told that for each day a person spends in the hospital, it takes a week to recover.
The 'fact checkers' have your age wrong. Damn phony, inaccurate fact checkers! ;D
I am trying to keep an open mind and wait and see here.I try to stay open minded but these shenanigans by dems and msm over the last 5-6 years have really soured me.
But it seems they knew these documents have been there a long time, and could have procured without all the showmanship.
If they were uber sensitive, then they likely would not have waited so long to get them.
Biden regularly uses his dead son as a pity ploy and a shield against criticism, he has no qualms using family members and their misfortune to advance his political career.
I try to stay open minded but these shenanigans by dems and msm over the last 5-6 years have really soured me.
Lurkio my dear Imbecile You can't EvAn get MY age Correct -
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Quick rusH over To Fact Checkers to make Sure ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D
There are those of us who feel the same way about the multiple 'shenanigans' committed by conservatives and FOX over the past many years. In what ways would you say you are openminded or that you try to be?
Trumpturds don’t like it when the laws apply to them or their Orange Buffon.
Trumpturds don’t like it when Orange Buffon passes bill regarding documents that come back and bite him in the ass.
Trumpturds whine. Back pedal. And start their silly civil war talk.
Trumpturds stupid.
What laws? What Justice system? Do you mean two teared Justice system that accuses Trump of doing then when debunked it’s really exact same thing the left (Biden especially) are doing with no repercussions? Prove me wrong…for once
The laws regarding warrants and raids.
The Justice system that enforced those laws.
They didn’t just accuse him, they collected evidence of their accusations.
Good times!
The laws regarding warrants and raids.
The Justice system that enforced those laws.
They didn’t just accuse him, they collected evidence of their accusations.
Good times!
There are those of us who feel the same way about the multiple 'shenanigans' committed by conservatives and FOX over the past many years. In what ways would you say you are openminded or that you try to be?
The laws regarding warrants and raids.
The Justice system that enforced those laws.
They didn’t just accuse him, they collected evidence of their accusations.
Good times!
You are a far kinder person than I.
I'm not a fan of either side, but there is nothing conservatives have done that's on the level to the Russian collusion hoax, the killing of the Hunter story, fake news from of myriad of sources, the treatment of the BLM riots, the BS ukraine call impeachment, big tech censorship, etc.
Too many to list actually.
Trump broke their minds.
But...why?
It's not like they had to recover nuclear launch codes from him. If they had him dead to rights on something major they'd be shouting it from the rooftops. It reads more like they desperately need some charge to stick so he can't run for office again.
Except ,
1 Trump is a symptom of dissatisfaction, not a cause, so someone else will just pick up the Fuck The Swamp mantle.
2 If they'd do a good job running the country instead of obsessing over sabotaging The Donald then he wouldn't be an election threat. Just get on with your damn job already.
It's nothing but bizarre. It's cartoonish, like something out of Catch That Pidgeon or Wile E Coyote. How is settling this private Democratic vendetta of any value to the people or the nation?
It's like anywhere else. Kick ass, be awesome. The other guy won't get your job. That's all they have to do. It's what they said they would do, and we all get to move on from Donald Trump. But here we are again. I'm sick to death of hearing about this fucking guy.
The laws regarding warrants and raids.
The Justice system that enforced those laws.
They didn’t just accuse him, they collected evidence of their accusations.
Good times!
62? Even worse.
All those years to get a basic education and you failed.
Trumpturds don’t like it when the laws apply to them or their Orange Buffon.
Trumpturds don’t like it when Orange Buffon passes bill regarding documents that come back and bite him in the ass.
Trumpturds whine. Back pedal. And start their silly civil war talk.
Trumpturds stupid.
but
You’re one of the dumbest SOB’s to grace this site
https://rumble.com/v1fuztp-the-mar-a-lago-fbi-raid-is-a-symbol-of-marxism-in-america.html?mref=9yobh&mc=2cpbn
But...why?
It's not like they had to recover nuclear launch codes from him. If they had him dead to rights on something major they'd be shouting it from the rooftops. It reads more like they desperately need some charge to stick so he can't run for office again.
Except ,
1 Trump is a symptom of dissatisfaction, not a cause, so someone else will just pick up the Fuck The Swamp mantle.
2 If they'd do a good job running the country instead of obsessing over sabotaging The Donald then he wouldn't be an election threat. Just get on with your damn job already.
It's nothing but bizarre. It's cartoonish, like something out of Catch That Pidgeon or Wile E Coyote. How is settling this private Democratic vendetta of any value to the people or the nation?
It's like anywhere else. Kick ass, be awesome. The other guy won't get your job. That's all they have to do. It's what they said they would do, and we all get to move on from Donald Trump. But here we are again. I'm sick to death of hearing about this fucking guy.
Really? Then why didn’t they do that? I’ll ask you the same question I always ask, what part of this was a legit raid. Careful with your answer because this started unraveling from day one and is still continuing to unravel
Like literally almost everything the left does, this was an illegal raid
Really? Then why didn’t they do that? I’ll ask you the same question I always ask, what part of this was a legit raid. Careful with your answer because this started unraveling from day one and is still continuing to unravel
Like literally almost everything the left does, this was an illegal raid
Give us some specifics on what you believe is the unraveling of the FBI's raid. Seems to me Trump's responses are what is unraveling. He maintained the FBI was keeping the details of the warrant secret... that was until he was called on it because he had a copy of the warrant which had he wanted it made public he could have done so himself. Instead, he changes direction and gives the FBI 'permission' to do this. Then Garland took Trump up on his offer or called his bluff if you prefer. Let's see how Trump and his followers 'spin' this now.
Or.... just a genius idea here.... If Trumpy followed protocol and did what he was supposed to do, they would not be in the position right now of having to go fetch this stuff right? ::)
It's clear Trump's opponents have a wicked hard on for him. It's been a backfire strategy every time and it's a misallocation of attention since it doesn't help the country.
I don't even like the dude. I think he's an egomaniacal huckster who crossed the line into sedition, and I agree with Oly that he called for his supporters to come and fight then left them twisting in the wind when it became politically inconvenient to defend them.
Now this golf clown from the 80s tabloids might get to ride political victimhood into office again. He would have faded. They keep juicing him up because they can't let it go. If you dislike Donald Trump, you should be angry at the Democrats for sponsoring his 24 candidacy.
Lots of theories the left did this to give support to Trump and avoid DeSantis.
More reason to believe we’re closer to a civil war and more proof that Trump is still the most powerful person in the worldThe first link below is an effort to discredit the judge who signed the warrant and isn’t relevant.
Hey Lurker, have you figured out the difference between a magazine and a clip yet?
https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/judge-who-approved-fbi-raid-on-mar-a-lago-once-linked-to-jeffrey-epstein/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_appNot proof of anything. Post a link to the FBI disallowing Trump’s lawyer’s presence during the search.
They need to change the headline to the “fake” Jan 6
https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/trump-raid-not-about-classified-documents-its-about-jan-6/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
Nothing can stop them. They would t allow Trumps lawyers in while they were searchingCute. But this is just your ineffective effort to distract.
Yet you say nothing about what the Biden regime and Biden did in the past present and will continue to doMore irrelevance on your part.
Why wouldn’t they? There was no “insurrection” he did or said nothing wrong. In case you haven’t noticed, it’s ONLY the Dems opposition that are targeted. Stop feeding off of the literal communist propaganda.
This will only make him and his base stronger, so strong he’s almost guaranteed to win
https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChC7X3Tj9dz/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=Biden and Afghanistan… distraction… irrelevant… not proof
You mean like Biden did a year ago with Americans left in Afghanistan who some are still there?? You mean left them on the battlefield like that?Different issue and completely irrelevant.
Why and who destroyed their lives? It’s been over a year and people are still being held. He’s never spoken on their behalf? Are you kidding?You still find time to work? Amazing!
I’m at work so I can’t respond but I can say what you said is complete bullshitRevisiting the lawyers present issue. Just curious, was the FBI supposed to put the search on hold until Trump’s lawyers showed up?
Hey dumbshit, he’s entitled to have lawyers present.Childish name calling. Something people do when they have nothing of value to say.
You really are a stupid fuck, aren’t ya? Between you and PrimeIrrelevant. January 6th issue again. Nothing to do with FBI search or proof of anything.
https://nypost.com/2022/08/10/trump-says-fbi-wouldnt-let-his-attorneys-watch-raid/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
Poll Reveals Just How Much the Jan. 6 Committee Has FailedIf you say he was kicked in the nuts than it must be so. NOT!
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/08/10/poll-reveals-just-how-much-the-jan-6-committee-has-failed-n609919
How does it feel to get kicked in the nuts every time you post, Benito?Losing it nonsense. Not relevant.
Every.Time.You.Post about politicsYou are right, reading your posts in this thread is the height of satire.
lol…this is satireYou really love calling people Communist. You should have been around in the McCarthy era. You’ve have made a good assistant to him.
I literally put every Biden regime supporters in the category of communist or communist sympathizers and are responsible for literally everything that’s happening now. That being said, communists should be purgedMore January 6th distraction from the thread topic nonsense.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/trump-shatters-fundraising-records-bidens-fbi-raids-mar-lago/
No one gives a shit 😂If you say we three get owned, it must be so. At least in your mind it is. Some disagree.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/jan-6-hearings-not-impacting-public-opinion-poll?utm_source=sf&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twjtn
Three of the ones who get owned on here more than anyone when it comes to politics are you, lurker/Strawman and Prime lolIt is nice to see The Scott back and kicking butt.
Happy to see you back 🙏I left this post simply because it you posted it and it is in this tread.
At least you're not denying itMore of the same
You need to do better than thatPossibly, but since the search was in the works for some time it seems kind of unlikely. Seems like Trump would have to be an idiot to not know this would happen given all the requests he ignored.
The raid was set up purposely while he was in Manhattan and didn't know about it then....dipshitTrump was served with a subpoena two months prior to the FBI search. A subpoena he ignored.
You fucking idiot. They even had a subpoena but raided the house before the subpoena was received.Let’s hope not. Trump’s already done enough damage.
Garland guaranteed Trumps re-electionHow exciting, a link to Truth Social… Oops! Note at top of page saying this resource cannot be found. Darn.
https://truthsocial.com/users/FrontPageScott/statuses/108806620380479004Maybe because Trump ignored the subpoena which is what led to the warrant. Duh.
“They have to explain why they went for a warrant instead of a subpoena”Very intradasting. Is it possible his webpage was removed because there were threats on his life? Glad you didn’t include his address and phone number in this post.
Just.Stop.Talking
https://rumble.com/v1ffeob-the-cabal-to-destroy-trump.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Mark+Levin+Show&ep=1
Court Removes Page for Judge Who Approved Raid of Trump’s HomeIrrelevant photo not shown… why? Well because it isn’t relevant.
A federal court in Florida has removed the webpage for the judge who signed off on the FBI raid of former President Donald Trump’s home.
The page for U.S. Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart was taken down on Aug. 10, archived versions of it confirm.
“No information at this time,” the computer operations manager for the court, the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, told The Epoch Times.
A deputy clerk for the clerk did not pick up the phone or return a voicemail.
The page contained Reinhart’s biography, his email address, directions to the courthouse at which he works, the phone number for his chambers, the number for his deputy, and the names of the deputy and the judge’s law clerks.
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The pages for all of the other magistrate judges for the court remain online.
Signed Off on Raid
Reinhart, who was appointed to his position by other judges, has confirmed that he was the judge who approved the FBI’s raid of Trump’s Florida resort, Mar-a-Lago.
The resort was raided on Aug. 8 by approximately two dozen agents, one of Trump’s lawyers told The Epoch Times.
Christina Bobb, the lawyer, said Reinhart’s name was listed as the approving judge on the search warrant agents gave to Trump representatives.
The warrant and the supporting materials, such as an affidavit outlining why the FBI was asking for a warrant, remain sealed. But Reinhart responded to requests to unseal the material, which identify the warrant as the one used to raid Trump’s resort, by ordering the Department of Justice to respond to the requests, indirectly confirming that he approved the warrant.
The government’s response to the requests to unseal, filed by nonprofit Judicial Watch and the Albany Times Union, may be filed under seal “to avoid disclosing matters already under seal,” Reinhart said in a brief order.
The response must be filed by 5 p.m. on Aug. 15.
It has not yet been filed.
Neither the FBI nor the Department of Justice have explained why the raid took place. Lawyers for Trump say agents were looking for classified and presidential materials. Earlier this year, U.S. archivist David Ferriero told Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.), the chairwoman of the House Oversight Committee, that there were classified materials discovered in boxes of records that were transferred from Trump’s residence to the National Archives in January.
Judge’s History
Reinhart was a trial attorney for the Department of Justice from 1988 to 1996, when he transitioned to being an assistant U.S. attorney based in West Palm Beach. He was involved with the prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein, who ultimately avoided federal prosecution in exchange for pleading guilty to a single state charge of soliciting a minor.
Shortly after the plea deal was reached, Reinhart left the government and spent ten years in private practice.
Among those he represented were Epstein’s housekeeper and pilots, according to court filings.
Reinhart became a magistrate judge on March 14, 2018.
Reinhart’s wife, Carolyn Bell, is also a judge. She was appointed by then-Gov. Rick Scott, a Republican, to a state circuit court in 2018.
Reinhart shared the announcement on Facebook.
On the same page, Reinhart criticized then-President-elect Trump, taking issue with Trump’s criticism of Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), who has since passed away.
“I generally ignore the President-elect’s tweets, but not this one,” Reinhart wrote, adding later that he agreed with the statement, “Donald Trump doesn’t have the moral stature to kiss John Lewis’s feet
.It might be helpful is Trump explained some things. On the other hand he lies so much intelligent people wouldn’t believe him even if just this once he was being truthful.
Oh, but you think Trump has to explain…AOC stupidYou lose points for name calling, Coach.
You’re right, he doesn’t. Move on tard. If he runs, Garland just re-elected him. Get used the mean TruthsWhat’s up with Truth Social? This link leads to this: BREAKING NEWS: Rumble Announces A Major Step Towards Merging with NASDAQ: $CFVI
Yes, rumbleMike Davis is right; a president has the power to declassify documents and other material or information. However, there is a process for doing this and it is a little more involved than just saying he did it.
https://truthsocial.com/users/rumble/statuses/108806038904392689
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https://twitter.com/mrddmia/status/1557799017592922112?s=21&t=i5BlCA_z8kjNbV5Ll7Np3w
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRyY2cjk/?k=1
Actually, Garland got smoked out and had no choice.Another photo. Not sure what it has to do with anything at hand.
.Coach, you are quite the ‘nut kicker’. Is that an accomplishment?
Kicked in the nuts again….you either have a vagina or they’re inverted
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/11/donald-trump-i-am-encouraging-doj-to-release-search-warrant-that-led-to-mar-a-lago-raid/
Welp…Now you are talking about Hunter Biden again. I might have this wrong, but what does Hunter Biden have to do with the FBI search at Mar-a-Largo. Maybe you digressed or simply when off topic.
White House documents that former President Donald Trump brought with him to Mar-a-Lago had been declassified, Trump allies said.
Attorney General Merrick Garland said Thursday that he had "personally approved" the search of Trump's Florida home, which was raided by FBI agents on Monday. Multiple reports said the raid was related to the handling of presidential records, including classified documents, after leaving office.
The Justice Department has prosecuted cases involving the mishandling of classified information, but no such case has been brought against a former president — the one government official who can declassify information at will.
Ric Grenell, who was Trump's acting director of national intelligence, told NBC News that documents can be declassified if the president simply says they are.
"There is no approval process for the president of the United States to declassify intelligence," Grenell told NBC News. "There is this phony idea that he must provide notification for declassification, but that's just silly. Who is he supposed to notify? I think it's the height of swampism to think the president should seek bureaucrats' approval."
Kash Patel, a Pentagon chief of staff during the Trump administration, in May said that documents previously recovered from Mar-a-Lago had been declassified by Trump, but their markings were not updated.
"Trump declassified whole sets of materials in anticipation of leaving government that he thought the American public should have the right to read themselves," Patel told Breitbart News.
The White House counsel failed to generate the paperwork to change the classification markings, but that doesn't mean the information wasn't declassified. I was there with President Trump when he said, 'We are declassifying this information.'"
At the time, Patel did not specify what the earlier documents were, but added, "it's information that Trump felt spoke to matters regarding everything from Russiagate to the Ukraine impeachment fiasco to major national security matters of great public importance — anything the president felt the American people had a right to know is in there and more. We are declassifying this information."
The 1978 Presidential Records Act requires presidents to turn over documents to the National Archives at the end of their administration. Although the law does not specify enforcement, there are multiple federal laws regarding the handling of classified documents.
As the facts stand now, his [Trump's] defense would be, 'I declassified those documents. I am not therefore in possession of classified documents now,'" Charles Stimson, a senior fellow with the Heritage Foundation and a former federal prosecutor, told NBC News.
Trump foes, however, reject the notion a president can declassify documents so easily.
"He can't just wave a wand and say it's declassified," Richard Immerman, a historian and former assistant deputy director of national intelligence under former President Barack Obama, told NBC News. "There has to be a formal process. That's the only way the system can work.
"I've seen thousands of declassified documents. They're all marked 'declassified' with the date they were declassified."
One source told NBC News that Trump as president wasn't concerned with formal protocol.
"We've told him there's a process and not following it could be a problem but he didn't care because he thinks this stuff is dumb," the source said of declassifying documents. "His attitude is that he is the president. He is in charge of the country and therefore national security. So he decides."
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-allies-declassified/2022/08/12/id/1082839/?ns_mail_uid=8b9b65c6-1bb0-4a37-966e-912de1caf965&ns_mail_job=DM365402_08122022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502s6b7ir
Then the attention would turn to his son. Biden and his kid were caught on tape about knowing and talking about his son's business dealings that he lied about. It's not a matter "if" he knew....he knew and lied about itYou can say this FBI search at Trump’s abode is falling apart all you want. That does not make it so. Time will tell if it falls apart or not.
As usual the lefts little game by raiding Trumps house is rapidly falling apart..just like “Russian Collusion” the hooker, pee gate, the Ukraine call, the two fake impeachments and the fake January 6 hearings where they keep getting caught in lies and altering evidence because they know they don’t have shit all the while locking up political prisoners on trespassing and trumped up charges while not allowing due process.Ah, but were this so. If you try to be openminded, great. It doesn’t show. Maybe you could try harder.
Whoever supports this, supports communism. Prove me wrong
I stay open minded but trying to listen to both sides, unfortunately the left is so predictable by accusing the right of doing the exact same things that they are doing 10 fold…then you have the history which became more evident during the Obama years that it’s not just impossible to ignore but now expected. We are now, literally, into American Marxism no exaggeration and history shows that never has worked and has ALWAYS ended bad. Especially for regimesThis is your opinion. You are entitled to it. Even if proved wrong, it wouldn’t change it unfortunately.
What laws? What Justice system? Do you mean two teared Justice system that accuses Trump of doing then when debunked it’s really exact same thing the left (Biden especially) are doing with no repercussions? Prove me wrong…for onceRumble Levin again. Are you and he bedfellows? You do seem to think alike.
You’re one of the dumbest SOB’s to grace this siteOh, the media! Sources say bla, bla, bla. So many sources so few truths or proofs. Both the left and right media are guilty of the unanimous sources’ ploy. Not that there aren’t sources which cannot at this point be revealed, but when there’s no one to check with, it only means so much which in my opinion isn’t very much.
https://rumble.com/v1fuztp-the-mar-a-lago-fbi-raid-is-a-symbol-of-marxism-in-america.html?mref=9yobh&mc=2cpbn
https://conservativebrief.com/privilege-65544/?utm_source=CB&utm_medium=ArtI’m having a déjà vu moment here. Somewhere recently I read something you wrote about an unraveling. Where could that have been?
Lurker and Prime actually think the FBI actually did this by the book…lol
Really? Then why didn’t they do that? I’ll ask you the same question I always ask, what part of this was a legit raid. Careful with your answer because this started unraveling from day one and is still continuing to unravelI am not going to bother following this link. What the ‘F’ does a Clinton lawsuit recusal have to do with Trump’s classified or not classified documents seizure?
Like literally almost everything the left does, this was an illegal raid
https://conservativebrief.com/trumps-attorney-demands-to-know-why-judge-who-signed-warrant-recused-himself-from-clinton-lawsuit-65524/?utm_source=CB&utm_medium=DJDFinally! I didn’t think this fun little exercise was ever going to end. But here we are back to where we started. Now you can stop saying I didn’t bother to watch or read your so-called proof. I read it. I don’t think there is proof of anything here. Sorry.
I did. Several times in this thread, you just didn’t bother to watch or read it
It's clear Trump's opponents have a wicked hard on for him. It's been a backfire strategy every time and it's a misallocation of attention since it doesn't help the country.
I don't even like the dude. I think he's an egomaniacal huckster who crossed the line into sedition, and I agree with Oly that he called for his supporters to come and fight then left them twisting in the wind when it became politically inconvenient to defend them.
Now this golf clown from the 80s tabloids might get to ride political victimhood into office again. He would have faded. They keep juicing him up because they can't let it go. If you dislike Donald Trump, you should be angry at the Democrats for sponsoring his 24 candidacy.
suggest you make the rebuttals after the coach leaves rather than before otherwise your overall presentation more confusing than his
Unfortunately, there are some folks who are dead serious about starting a civil war over Trump's folly. Word of warning, don't expect him to fight it with you or bail you out should you be arrested.This is where you're wrong. If you ever listened to the people talking like that, they're are specifically saying these things because DEMOCRATS are taking their rights away. Absolutely nothing to do with Trump. Turn off your tv for fucks sake. ::)
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=treats+of+civil+war&docid=20711265449655&mid=C7B2F20B702262507454C7B2F20B702262507454&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
Prime, wtf bro? Don’t quote and write so much shit, it’s worse than a Matt C:-Xpostvideo.
Not much to say about this except it is your opening post in this tread. My hope is that Trump's power is waning. The first link below is an effort to discredit the judge who signed the warrant and isn’t relevant.
The second link is as stated at the beginning an OPIONION piece. Opinions aren’t factsNot proof of anything. Post a link to the FBI disallowing Trump’s lawyer’s presence during the search.Cute. But this is just your ineffective effort to distract.More irrelevance on your part.
Another feeble attempt to discredit the Judge who approved the warrant. Not proof of anything. Sorry.Biden and Afghanistan… distraction… irrelevant… not proofDifferent issue and completely irrelevant.You still find time to work? Amazing!Revisiting the lawyers present issue. Just curious, was the FBI supposed to put the search on hold until Trump’s lawyers showed up? Childish name calling. Something people do when they have nothing of value to say.
Link: If Trump says it, it must be true, because Trump never lies. LOL!Irrelevant. January 6th issue again. Nothing to do with FBI search or proof of anything.If you say he was kicked in the nuts than it must be so. NOT!Losing it nonsense. Not relevant.You are right, reading your posts in this thread is the height of satire.You really love calling people Communist. You should have been around in the McCarthy era. You’ve have made a good assistant to him.
The link is interesting. You think it is a positive that Trump uses everything that happens to pick his supporter’s pockets? He’s an opportunist, nothing more.More January 6th distraction from the thread topic nonsense. If you say we three get owned, it must be so. At least in your mind it is. Some disagree. It is nice to see The Scott back and kicking butt. I left this post simply because it you posted it and it is in this tread. More of the samePossibly, but since the search was in the works for some time it seems kind of unlikely. Seems like Trump would have to be an idiot to not know this would happen given all the requests he ignored.Trump was served with a subpoena two months prior to the FBI search. A subpoena he ignored.Let’s hope not. Trump’s already done enough damage.How exciting, a link to Truth Social… Oops! Note at top of page saying this resource cannot be found. Darn.Maybe because Trump ignored the subpoena which is what led to the warrant. Duh.
Just.stop.talking? Are you exasperated again?
Another opinion. This time it is Mark Levin’s opinion. Gee whiz. Impressive! I see now where you got the idea about the subpoena. Both you and Mark must have missed that there was a subpoena issued two months prior to the search. Very intradasting. Is it possible his webpage was removed because there were threats on his life? Glad you didn’t include his address and phone number in this post. Irrelevant photo not shown… why? Well because it isn’t relevant.It might be helpful is Trump explained some things. On the other hand he lies so much intelligent people wouldn’t believe him even if just this once he was being truthful.You lose points for name calling, Coach.What’s up with Truth Social? This link leads to this: BREAKING NEWS: Rumble Announces A Major Step Towards Merging with NASDAQ: $CFVIMike Davis is right; a president has the power to declassify documents and other material or information. However, there is a process for doing this and it is a little more involved than just saying he did it. Another photo. Not sure what it has to do with anything at hand. Coach, you are quite the ‘nut kicker’. Is that an accomplishment?
Link to Trump’s a little too late and unnecessary request. Again, had he wanted this information made public, he had the ability to do that on Monday, but he milked it until Thursday night to not be one upped by Garland.
And Prime, while we’re at it. Where was your rhetoric when Clinton destroyed 33,000 emails? The double standard and two tiered Justice systems are ALL relevant in thisThey only accept news articles from CNN.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/national-archives-official-notified-doj-trump-probe-declined-clinton-emails
My take is a little different from yours.
Yes, Trump has proved these old sayings to be true, "There's no such thing as bad press." and "Any press is good press." It is often used to spin negative press as something positive. If there is one thing Trump is genius at it is his abilities at self promotion.
Almost all of the slings and arrows thrown at Trump have backfired. The man is made of Teflon. I can't help but wonder each time something new comes to light if this isn't the time when the jig is finally up. I hate to admit it, there have been times when my fingers were crossed.
What is really weird is that Trump is the hero of the anti-establishment while there is no one who is more a part of the establishment than he is. He may not be as wealthy as he claims but he is no pauper either... far from it. Maybe some of these folks hope some of his success will rub off on them. He is the champion of the underdog all the while being something of the top dog.
And Prime, while we’re at it. Where was your rhetoric when Clinton destroyed 33,000 emails? The double standard and two tiered Justice systems are ALL relevant in this
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/national-archives-official-notified-doj-trump-probe-declined-clinton-emails
I don't think he's any kind of genius or teflon clad. He's basically an opportunistic doofus. The reason nothing sticks to him is because the people hunting him keep making shit up that isn't true, like how he's a Russian agent. Was anyone ever held accountable for that? Screw Trump's feelings but that was a deliberate attempt to fuck with an election. Big medicine.
He's got money but I'm on the fence about whether he's part of the political establishment. His anti war rhetoric/ no more US taxpayers footing the bill to police the world (generally correct) really roused the ire of well entrenched and influential (and possibly necessary) military-industrial types. His failure to start a war with Iran after they launched missiles at our troops (and it was a failure imo, since Iran will develop nuclear capability unless stopped) did the same, and probably pissed off Israel as well, since they're gone on the afternoon of the same day Iran achieves capability.
He did plenty of political establishment shit tho. Hardly the sort of maverick his supporters or detractors claim he is. A true antiestablishment guy would have broken with fucked up policies perpetuated by both parties. He would have celebrated Assange and Snowden, hauled up every motherfarker responsible for constant universal surveillance right into the light of day, for one thing. I didn't see that from this Man of the People. I didn't see him successfully implement an airtight border security plan, which was his principal promise. He didn't leave Afghanistan. I think Yemen was on his watch. There was a lot of business as usual.
No matter Trump’s myriad flaws, the legal argument over whether or not he had used his presidential authority to declassify the documents seized by the FBI last Monday is contested by lawyers on both sides and no discernible reason has emerged for the cack-handed urgency.
We’ve had a flurry of leaks from the DOJ and the White House in an attempt at post-facto justification for this precedent-setting law enforcement overreach. It’s nuclear secrets. It’s Jared Kushner and the Saudis. Leak, leak, leak to the usual suspects.
But we’ve seen this playbook before. The Russia hoax, two impeachments, Alpha Bank, the Steele Dossier, Carter Page, the FBI lovebirds, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Stormy Daniels, Michael Cohen, Michael Avenatti, Adam Schiff, and on and on relentlessly.
So, forgive us for being skeptical. When the same top Obama administration officials who ran the Russia hoax are now back in the White House and running the DOJ it’s hard not to believe they are up to their old tricks.
Lots of theories the left did this to give support to Trump and avoid DeSantis.
Possibly. Splitting the conservative vote is the Dems only hope after the Biden shitshow, but I read it more as a continuation of the already well established Trump hunt.
Kinda curious if DeSantis will nab Trump's thunder and be all "The State of Florida will not tolerate these politically motivated federal intrusions!"
Probably not but it'd be fun.
I want DeSantis mainly as he was the best Gov during the Covid insanity and so far has the best record in the country vs the lunatic left wing nuts.
He has great credentials and record and Liberal sick mentally ill people like Prime know they have zero on him.
Mandates and how people responded are a huge issue for me. He definitely led the charge for liberty in his state and stayed true to it as everyone raked him over the coals.
I was disappointed Trump didn't come out swinging about vax mandates. I think he's on record stating his opposition to them but he was pretty quiet about it overall.
This is where you're wrong. If you ever listened to the people talking like that, they're are specifically saying these things because DEMOCRATS are taking their rights away. Absolutely nothing to do with Trump. Turn off your tv for fucks sake. ::)
Turning the TV off makes no difference since I didn't hear or see this on the television. Also, I avoid watching news stations. Last night I watched two BBC shows, Escape to Country and Gardener's Paradise with Monty Don.
So then, are you saying there is no truth to this? Nobody on the right is calling for civil war since the search event. I hope you are right because that is good news.
"Some on the far right have been calling for civil war since an FBI raid on Trump's Florida home."
Same. I am still hot over the covidian cult stupidity we were forced to endure.
Yep. There's an alternate timeline where rona vaxes never got any safer but variants hadn't yet evolved to escape vax immunity. In that world, there's quarterly booster mandates and the Australian authorities have siezed my property for nonpayment of vax fines and I'm held in a quarantine camp.
If their useless shit remained even halfway effective that's how it would have gone.
While you must have to every post for other people that I responded including yourself, im not going take the time to type out every response to your non-answer answers. Rather I would love to bring your responses to the forefront by setting aside time for a face to face live debate.
But here is where you’re either naive or just don’t want to admit you’re wrong. 1. Everything I posted is relevant to show raid on Trumps property that I posted especially when it comes to the judge and the fake Jan 6 show trial
As far as opinion pieces go, there are usually facts in the opinion pieces.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/14/trump-raid-doj-allegedly-seized-privileged-attorney-client-materials/
https://nypost.com/2022/08/10/trump-says-fbi-wouldnt-let-his-attorneys-watch-raid/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-would-not-let-trump-attorneys-agents-raided-mar-a-lago-warrant-nara
https://www.oann.com/trump-attorney-fbi-did-not-allow-us-to-watch-raid/
https://fb.watch/eVzjRXNcMf/?fs=e&s=cl
You said you posted proof several times. I didn't recall that you had so I decided to do a thorough search of the thread, which turned up almost nothing supporting your claim. What I found was a couple of times that you posted links to opinion pieces and a couple of times you posted links that were broken (led nowhere). I did not find where you posted proof of anything.
You are right, there may be facts to be found in some opinion pieces. However, an opinion does not require there be facts to support it.
"Unlike facts, opinions can't be verified. They can be supported by evidence as in persuasive writing, but don't need to be. Anyone can have any opinion about anything because it doesn't need to be based."
https://examples.yourdictionary.com/fact-vs-opinion-simple-examples-show-difference
An in-person discussion might be interesting. I have no doubt that if it were a contest, you’d win because you are much more passionate about what you believe than I am. Maybe when you get a little farther along in life, you’ll come to realize that “shit happens” and has happened many times before and somehow, we survived it because here we are still talking about it.
Honestly, debating with you has often been entertaining and sometimes informative. I remember several years ago you and I had a lot of discussion about health insurance. I learned from you that there are health insurance cooperatives which operate differently than conventional health insurance. Are you still participating in a health insurance cooperative? Does it continue to fill your needs?
The branch covidian cult hypochondriacs destroyed kids, businesses, relationships, careers, economies, etc. These same POS are still in masks and boosting their asses every few months and demanding others do the same despite what we know now.
More gaslighting and fake nonsense you idiots believe and buy into. Turn off MSNBC and CNN for F Sake. How gullible are you?
You probably also believed the FAKE russian collusion hoax, the michigan hoAX, the steele dossier HOAX, the hooker peeing in the bed hoax, the russian bounty HOAX.
Liberals have no credibility whatsoever on this or anything else after all the fake nonsense you went all in on.
Guess you missed where I said I don't watch the news on television. I also do not subscribe to hardcopy newspapers. The media and it's subscribers are hooked on negative news... mostly news no one can personally do anything about. Life is too short to spend it wallowing in negativity. If something really important happens, even people who never follow the news find out about it.
There is a good chance I will never come in contact with the FBI. There is no reason they would raid my home and I don't believe they do this just for the heck of it.
I do believe sometimes some FBI agents mess up. In 2010 Mohamed Osman Mohamud a radicalized kid who was no saint by anyone's standards, IMO, was setup by two FBI agents who were pretending to help him in a plot to bomb Pioneer Square in Portland during the annual Christmas tree lighting. Mohamed ended up being sentenced to 30 years in federal prison and a lifetime of supervision. There is some doubt that the plot would ever have progressed to the point it did had the FBI not pretended to be his cohort.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Portland_car_bomb_plot
Lurkio my dear Idiot - If shit were Brains - Yours would be Very watery Diarrhea.
As you speak nothing but verbal Diarrhea it constantly Runs out of your mouth.
Give us some specifics on what you believe is the unraveling of the FBI's raid. Seems to me Trump's responses are what is unraveling. He maintained the FBI was keeping the details of the warrant secret... that was until he was called on it because he had a copy of the warrant which had he wanted it made public he could have done so himself. Instead, he changes direction and gives the FBI 'permission' to do this. Then Garland took Trump up on his offer or called his bluff if you prefer. Let's see how Trump and his followers 'spin' this now.
Lots of theories the left did this to give support to Trump and avoid DeSantis.
Not much to say about this except it is your opening post in this tread. My hope is that Trump's power is waning. The first link below is an effort to discredit the judge who signed the warrant and isn’t relevant.
The second link is as stated at the beginning an OPIONION piece. Opinions aren’t factsNot proof of anything. Post a link to the FBI disallowing Trump’s lawyer’s presence during the search.Cute. But this is just your ineffective effort to distract.More irrelevance on your part.
Another feeble attempt to discredit the Judge who approved the warrant. Not proof of anything. Sorry.Biden and Afghanistan… distraction… irrelevant… not proofDifferent issue and completely irrelevant.You still find time to work? Amazing!Revisiting the lawyers present issue. Just curious, was the FBI supposed to put the search on hold until Trump’s lawyers showed up? Childish name calling. Something people do when they have nothing of value to say.
Link: If Trump says it, it must be true, because Trump never lies. LOL!Irrelevant. January 6th issue again. Nothing to do with FBI search or proof of anything.If you say he was kicked in the nuts than it must be so. NOT!Losing it nonsense. Not relevant.You are right, reading your posts in this thread is the height of satire.You really love calling people Communist. You should have been around in the McCarthy era. You’ve have made a good assistant to him.
The link is interesting. You think it is a positive that Trump uses everything that happens to pick his supporter’s pockets? He’s an opportunist, nothing more.More January 6th distraction from the thread topic nonsense. If you say we three get owned, it must be so. At least in your mind it is. Some disagree. It is nice to see The Scott back and kicking butt. I left this post simply because it you posted it and it is in this tread. More of the samePossibly, but since the search was in the works for some time it seems kind of unlikely. Seems like Trump would have to be an idiot to not know this would happen given all the requests he ignored.Trump was served with a subpoena two months prior to the FBI search. A subpoena he ignored.Let’s hope not. Trump’s already done enough damage.How exciting, a link to Truth Social… Oops! Note at top of page saying this resource cannot be found. Darn.Maybe because Trump ignored the subpoena which is what led to the warrant. Duh.
Just.stop.talking? Are you exasperated again?
Another opinion. This time it is Mark Levin’s opinion. Gee whiz. Impressive! I see now where you got the idea about the subpoena. Both you and Mark must have missed that there was a subpoena issued two months prior to the search. Very intradasting. Is it possible his webpage was removed because there were threats on his life? Glad you didn’t include his address and phone number in this post. Irrelevant photo not shown… why? Well because it isn’t relevant.It might be helpful is Trump explained some things. On the other hand he lies so much intelligent people wouldn’t believe him even if just this once he was being truthful.You lose points for name calling, Coach.What’s up with Truth Social? This link leads to this: BREAKING NEWS: Rumble Announces A Major Step Towards Merging with NASDAQ: $CFVIMike Davis is right; a president has the power to declassify documents and other material or information. However, there is a process for doing this and it is a little more involved than just saying he did it. Another photo. Not sure what it has to do with anything at hand. Coach, you are quite the ‘nut kicker’. Is that an accomplishment?
Link to Trump’s a little too late and unnecessary request. Again, had he wanted this information made public, he had the ability to do that on Monday, but he milked it until Thursday night to not be one upped by Garland.
This was a good read. There seems to be some disagreement as to whether the documents in question had been declassified. If they had been, someone carelessly forgot to update the markings or notations on them to reflect this. There also is an ongoing debate as to whether Trump had the power to declassify them.
My question is if he declassified them, when did he do this? Before or after he moved them to Mar-a-largo? Whatever ability a president to declassify these things is ends when his or her term ends. And as previously mentioned there is a process that is followed.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-declassification-rationale-idiotic-chaos-inducing-ex-fbi-agent-1733453Now you are talking about Hunter Biden again. I might have this wrong, but what does Hunter Biden have to do with the FBI search at Mar-a-Largo. Maybe you digressed or simply when off topic. You can say this FBI search at Trump’s abode is falling apart all you want. That does not make it so. Time will tell if it falls apart or not.
And here you go again Broseph McCarthy. You should have been around in the 1950’s. Ah, but were this so. If you try to be openminded, great. It doesn’t show. Maybe you could try harder. This is your opinion. You are entitled to it. Even if proved wrong, it wouldn’t change it unfortunately. Rumble Levin again. Are you and he bedfellows? You do seem to think alike. Oh, the media! Sources say bla, bla, bla. So many sources so few truths or proofs. Both the left and right media are guilty of the unanimous sources’ ploy. Not that there aren’t sources which cannot at this point be revealed, but when there’s no one to check with, it only means so much which in my opinion isn’t very much.I’m having a déjà vu moment here. Somewhere recently I read something you wrote about an unraveling. Where could that have been?I am not going to bother following this link. What the ‘F’ does a Clinton lawsuit recusal have to do with Trump’s classified or not classified documents seizure? Finally! I didn’t think this fun little exercise was ever going to end. But here we are back to where we started. Now you can stop saying I didn’t bother to watch or read your so-called proof. I read it. I don’t think there is proof of anything here. Sorry.
His own attorneys who were on the premises have been on TV saying they were not allowed to view the search and seizure. Holy F - you are almost as bad as dementia Joe Biden in being ignorant and immune to what is going on.
That is the tip of the iceberg of fake stuff we have had to endure. How about almost every single school shooter was warned to the FBI and they did nothing?
His own attorneys who were on the premises have been on TV saying they were not allowed to view the search and seizure.
were you not a lawyer previously ?
were you not a lawyer previously ?
I am a lawyer presently. This is not normal.
hahahahha.... stop fucking whining. The simple fact of all of this is if Trumpy had not taken them in the first place, and if Trumpy didn't have a history of destroying documents or flushing them down the toilet, the raid would never have happened.You don't even know what or if anything was taken, you're celebrating far too early, as usual.
The little toddler brought it all upon himself.
You don't like it? No one cares.
You don't even know what or if anything was taken, you're celebrating far too early, as usual.
hahahahha.... stop fucking whining. The simple fact of all of this is if Trumpy had not taken them in the first place, and if Trumpy didn't have a history of destroying documents or flushing them down the toilet, the raid would never have happened.
The little toddler brought it all upon himself.
You don't like it? No one cares.
They've already stated what was taken. Duh!!! ::)
They've already stated what was taken. Duh!!! ::)
I am a lawyer presently. This is not normal.
Specifically in relation to Mr Trump it is not normal
but is it legal?
so you are not a lawyer at present but you will be presently ?
Specifically in relation to Mr Trump it is not normal
but is it legal?
so you are not a lawyer at present but you will be presently ?
Dipshit, you’ll believe anything as long as it’s against Trump which why you and Prime ALWAYS lose arguments. Mmmmm, I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of pages of legit classified documents your boys Obama, Biden and Clinton have in their own possessions?
You mean stolen? Like his passports? If they would steal his passports what makes you think they didn’t steal other private documents? That said…
It is not normal to not allow counsel present and to tell the person to shut off all video cameras during a search.
Stolen? hahahahahaha. You mean like the election? hahahahaha
You are the perfect example of what happens when mental illness leads mental illness.
Spin spin spin..... that's all you can do besides lie, lie, lie.
He's a lawyer and has been for years.
They've already stated what was taken. Duh!!! ::)
Outrageous and unconstitutional’ is how lawyer Alan Dershowitz describes the FBI’s recent raid of Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home to Glenn. A legal expert and host of ‘The Dershow,’ Dershowitz says he may have more experience with the Fourth Amendment — which protects Americans from unreasonable searches and seizures — than any other academic in America. He discusses the questions the government MUST answer about the raid, why Trump should’ve been served a subpoena instead, and why even Democrats should ‘object’ to this action from the FBI...
Transcript
GLENN: Professor Alan Dershowitz. Back on the program. Alan, you were one of the first people I thought of, when I heard what was going on. Because I knew you would have an opinion, and it would me to either rethink mine. Or to shore my opinion up.
ALAN: Yeah.
GLENN: Tell me about the raid with Donald Trump.
ALAN: Well, first of all, I have more experience on the Fourth Amendment than any academic in America. I understand the Fourth Amendment. I've written books about it.
I've litigated dozens of cases on the Fourth Amendment. And I'm a liberal Democrat, who voted for Biden and against Trump. But this raid is absolutely outrageous and unconstitutional.
You don't engage in a raid on a house, unless you have exhausted all other possibilities, and the most obvious recourse here, was a subpoena. A subpoena to the president. Saying, there are 25 boxes in your house. There's a safe. We would like you to bring them all to the court, tomorrow morning. Before you have a chance to leave where you are in the northeast. And come there. And destroy anything. And we will then submit it to a judge. And lawyers can argue, something that was classified. Some of it was unclassified by the president. Some was never classified. Some may be so classified, that even the FBI shouldn't have accessed it. To it, some may be privileged -- this is exactly the kind of thing that needs a document by document analysis. By a judge. Not the FBI coming in, and sweeping everything together. Breaking into a safe. Reminds me of the Geraldo Rivera fiasco, when he jumped into the safe, one of the big gangsters, Capone or somebody. Nothing was in there. Nothing was in there.
You know, you must have a single standard of justice. I'm a friend of both Sandy Berger, who was the former national security adviser. The late Sandy Berger. And a friend of Hillary Clinton. What they were accused of, was exactly comparable. And there were no searches of their houses. People who have been found guilty of taking classified material improperly, have been given fines. I don't think there's ever been a search like this, based on the allegations made in this case. Now, don't rush their judgment. Maybe there is something there. Right now, the burden of proof, is heavily on the Justice Department. And the FBI. Who justified what they have done. Absent a justification. Most Americans will not believe this was necessary. And they're going to come back and say, oh, we can't discuss it. Ongoing investigation. Classified material. Nonsense!
Appoint a special master, who has security clearance, who can objectively look through this thing, or else appoint the congressional committee. A real committee. Not like January 6th, which includes 40 percent Republicans, 60 percent Democrats. Have them look at this, in a classified manner. But we cannot except either silence or a claim that privilege somehow or confidentiality requires silence.
GLENN: But do we even know the chain of command now? I mean, how safe is it? First of all, Alan, we had Hillary Clinton, having some of her staff cut top secret off the top of documents, in a skiff. Send them to her server, at her house. And we didn't go through this. What could possibly be in these documents, that are so vital, that it -- that it warrants this, compared to what Hillary Clinton did?
ALAN: We're compared to what a subpoena would have produced. We don't know what's in there. Maybe there was a smoking gun. Again, he wasn't even on the premises. He couldn't have destroyed the information. All they had to do was issue a subpoena, or turn a vote this morning at 9 o'clock. There would have been no possibility of destroying evidence. And if anyone, Donald Trump or anyone else ordered the destruction of evidence, that's Nixon time. That's impeachment. That's criminal prosecution. That's a serious crime. Destroying subpoenaed material. It's -- you know, that's what the law is there for. To prevent that. And does anybody believe that Donald Trump would have taken a chance to destroy material? He didn't know whether there were copies of the material or other evidence that might be destroyed. This is a pretext. There's no way that the Justice Department actually believed that President Trump would destroy documents. Now, people say, oh, but a judge approved the search warrant. Let me tell you, with almost 60 years of experience. I've never heard of a judge turning down a search warrant. Ever. They give out search warrants more easily than Halloween candy. And so that's not a safeguard at all.
GLENN: Who was the judge? Do we know? Who did this? Do we know anything about it?
ALAN: No, we don't know anything. We haven't seen the document. Look, there's a search warrant in existence. We should see it. There's an affidavit, in support of the search warrant. We know what happened, when there was the search warrant for the FISA court. It turns out -- it turned out that it was filled with lies.
GLENN: By the FBI.
ALAN: Yeah. Well, I love the FBI. I've worked with the FBI. And I have worked with former directors of the FBI. It's a great organization. I don't know what the chain of command is. The White House has denied knowing about the raid. Which is quite surprising. Obviously, the attorney general who I also know. A former student of Harvard law school. I think very highly of him. I supported him for the Supreme Court. He obviously had to approve this raid. What was he thinking? Let him tell us. Maybe he's right. Maybe he did the right thing. I want to know that, Americans have a right to know that. Because we all now know, if you can do this to a former president, you can do it to Glenn Beck. You can do it to Alan Dershowitz. You can do it to all of your listeners. And this has to be justified. Or else, it has to be undone.
GLENN: Can you -- could you speak directly, as if I were a person that voted for Biden, and I despised Donald Trump. And I think he's guilty of everything that -- and he just can't be president anymore. Why is this so important, that we correct?
ALAN: Yeah. Yeah. Look, I'm talking to you from Martha's Vineyard, where no one speaks to me anymore. Recently, I was invited to a big event. Celebration of somebody. This engagement. I got a letter this morning saying, we have been told, not to invite you, because if we invite you, nobody else will come.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
ALAN: And our social reputations will be destroyed. At another event, a concert, where a good friend said, if I invited you, I would be committing social suicide. I tell all these stories, naming names in my book The Price of Principle. Because the price of principle is all about what happens to Americans today when they try to be neutral, try to be principled, try to be objective, and don't pick sides. And so I would hope that people who hate Trump. Who voted for Biden. I voted for Biden are just as upset at what happened here, as people who are Trump supporters. Now, look, there are three groups of people. There are the large tribes, for whom, about it you're after Trump, everything is okay. Constitution be damned. Constitution was written for the Democratic Party. There's no objective status. Okay. That's one group of people. The other group of people are so supportive of Trump, that nothing done against him, could ever be justified. The vast majority of Americans want to see justice, whether they voted for or against the candidate. And that's what we're not seeing here today. And so I encourage all of my fellow Democrats, to object to this. We're the ones who can really have an influence on this administration, because we're not Trump supporters. We're justice supporters. We believe in the Constitution. And that's where the pressure has to come.
GLENN: Would you agree that the FBI has been weaponized?
ALAN: I just there are elements within the FBI, that have been weaponized. I do think that. Look, it happens during the McCarthy period as well. It was wrong then. And it was wrong now. The FBI should be -- look, the head of the FBI, is not a liberal Democrat. He's, you know, nonpartisan. And I don't know whether he has deliberately done things. But remember, the FBI works for the Justice Department. They are part of the Justice Department. And so, you know, there's an old story, where the attorney general of the United States, during the Second World War, tried to get into the building late. And the building was restricted. And he said to the guard, I am the attorney general of the United States. And the guard said, I don't care if you're Jay Edgar Hoover himself, you can't get into it. But that was wrong. He worked for the attorney general of the United States. And so -- so does the director of the FBI, who worked for the Justice Department.
GLENN: Is your book out yet. I haven't read it yet.
ALAN: It is. It is. And it's doing very well on Amazon.
GLENN: Good.
ALAN: And please, buy it and review it. Because it's all about what's going on now. It's all about -- starts out with the phrase, that partisanship has trumped principle, and that we no longer live in a nation governed by principles. We live in a nation governed bipartisanship divisions. And as Abraham Lincoln said, a nation divided against itself cannot stand. That's the nation we're living in today.
GLENN: I will read it. The price of principle. You are paying a very high price for that. As are others. But thank you for having them. And sticking to them.
ALAN: I have a thick skin. I have a thick skin. I can do bear the cost. But when the people on my island, Martha's Vineyard, are not allowed to hear me speak at the Chilmark Library. When I've been banned by a public library, because I defended President Trump, then it goes beyond any parties or social communities, or social inconvenience. People have the right to disinvite me, if they don't like my politics. But they have the right to -- they have no right to prevent a library from allowing me to speak. Which is what happened.
GLENN: I hate to say this, but welcome to the club. Thanks so much. Alan Dershowitz. You bet.
The other of The Price of Principle.
STU: He didn't get one invite to one event. But he got invited to a new club. So there's an upside.
GLENN: He did. No. I don't think it really is.
They've already stated what was taken. Duh!!! ::)Did they release an itemized list we can check on?
Did they release an itemized list we can check on?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/15/trump-team-drops-email-proving-fbi-wrongly-seized-passports-media-doj-attempted-mislead-public/
I read two of the three were expired. Either way, I also read they've returned them. It is pretty easy to imagine a passport getting lost in a file folder considering their size.
What are your thoughts on the passports and other items taken that didn’t have anything to do with the documents they were supposedly looking for in the raid? Do you think it’s a bit of a fishing expedition? Why take the passports and lie about it initially? Just looking for a liberals point of view. Thanks hoss.
Good info. Dershowitz is the last outspoken liberal civil libertarian in America.
Yes, I mean exactly like that. You’re horrible at facts and debating. Do you think just because they returned it under public pressure that they didn’t steal them?
“The Constitution, through the Fourth Amendment, protects people from unreasonable searches and seizures by the government. The Fourth Amendment, however, is not a guarantee against all searches and seizures, but only those that are deemed unreasonable under the law.”
What are your thoughts on the passports and other items taken that didn’t have anything to do with the documents they were supposedly looking for in the raid? Do you think it’s a bit of a fishing expedition? Why take the passports and lie about it initially? Just looking for a liberals point of view. Thanks hoss.
When you have a search warrant signed by a judge, it isn't "unreasonable". ::)
I bet you even graduated at the bottom of the class at Trumpy University, you are that stupid.
I already proved my point and backed it by a liberal/Democrat that voted for both Clinton and Biden.
If it was unreasonable, then it would not have been approved and signed. ::)
The only point you have proven is that you are just a whiner looking for any excuse to cry about. :'(
Whether the passports were legally taken or not, the damage is done, as it rallies Trump's base more, and puts more distrust in the media after O'Donnell's tweets at ABC.
Getting worse.
The fact you actually believe this makes you an even bigger idiot
I already proved my point and backed it by a liberal/Democrat that voted for both Clinton and Biden.
Mr Trumps passport collection would probably be more commented upon if held by some significant swamp dweller
Does any body know the situation on having two concurrent US passports
Would Mr trumps possible claim to a UK passport contradict US law and what sort of scenario would arise if it transpired he held a UK passport while in office?
Mr Trumps passport collection would probably be more commented upon if held by some significant swamp dweller
Does any body know the situation on having two concurrent US passports
Would Mr trumps possible claim to a UK passport contradict US law and what sort of scenario would arise if it transpired he held a UK passport while in office?
As I have already shown in great detail. You have yet to prove anything. Saying something over and over does not make it so.
Mr Trumps passport collection would probably be more commented upon if held by some significant swamp dweller
Does any body know the situation on having two concurrent US passports
Would Mr trumps possible claim to a UK passport contradict US law and what sort of scenario would arise if it transpired he held a UK passport while in office?
As I have already shown in great detail. You have yet to prove anything. Saying something over and over does not make it so.
Am I the only one who seems to think the Republicans are pro police, pro law and order... until it negatively impacts Trump?
It may just be the case of running out of pages for the Customs stamps or country VISAs. They can add pages to a passport if you need it but eventually will opt to give you a new clean one all together. So technically you can have two concurrently. This has happened to me. Some countries just stamp it anywhere. Some countries require a completely blank page to stamp. I ran out due to my travel gigs and they sent me a new one. But I still needed to carry the old one because I had VISAs for some countries that had not expired yet.
Am I the only one who seems to think the Republicans are pro police, pro law and order... until it negatively impacts Trump?
They believe in law and order until it applies to them.
We just don't worship law enfarcement like you do. Yeah, yeah...FOADYWPOS
That's it? No "feeeeellllingggs" or "real world" shit? No three paragraphs regurgitated nonsense that has posted ad nauseam because you can't think of anything else? Well I think we now know that dying certainly didn't improve your IQ.
Am I the only one who seems to think the Republicans are pro police, pro law and order... until it negatively impacts Trump?Yet they aren't the ones screaming to defund the police.
We’ve shown that you are just a moronic retard that believes every shitty excuse that comes down the pipe so you can sleep at night.
You are a whiner and crier who can’t cope with reality and understand simple facts so instead feed your bullshit to maintain your delusions. It’s not your fault actually. You simply lack critical thinking skills.
As I have said, the only thing dumber than Trumpy is his supporters.
As I have already shown in great detail. You have yet to prove anything. Saying something over and over does not make it so.
You are such a C U N T. When you die, even the flies will remain silent for 39 seconds.
You haven’t shown shit with the exception of how fucking stupid you are. There’s a fact for you. And yes, you are a communist as well as anyone that supports Biden. You’re just too stupid to realize it and I can prove it
You haven’t shown shit except leftist talking points. Both you and Lurker have ALWAYS been proven wrong. Lurker that dipshit, kept bringing up Roy Moore when I knew it was bullshit back in 2017 and sure as shit he last week he won his defamation suit. Leftist are some of dumbest species on the planet by far
Prime tore your retarded geriatric ass to shreds when he picked apart that drivel you post over and over every day when you get a fistful of facts shoved up your ass.
I used to think retardation was a disadvantage. But with you it’s a blessing because I don’t they have discovered any drugs yet that will overcome your complete detachment from reality. Retardation is the only thing keeping you from realizing how stupid you truly are.
He didn’t do anything but babble just like you.
Awww someone got triggered. :'(
Do you need your bed pan changed?
We’ve shown that you are just a moronic retard that believes every shitty excuse that comes down the pipe so you can sleep at night.
You are a whiner and crier who can’t cope with reality and understand simple facts so instead feed your bullshit to maintain your delusions. It’s not your fault actually. You simply lack critical thinking skills.
As I have said, the only thing dumber than Trumpy is his supporters.
LOL! I've been where you're going but when your time is up, you aren't coming back. You are socially screwed, triggerfish... "Triggered" What a homo term for the Mangina (de)Generation.
Nothing you can ever say will detract from your mortality and how all of us will celebrate your assuming temp. FOADYWSOS.
You should be afraid of what comes for you at your end. You will be. I do not give a fuque about you and yours. You are a complete waste of bleached genes.
Yep. Triggered. You won't be around when I die. Hell you might not be around next week with your sorry ass health. Kind of sad really. For one brief minute your family was given hope that they were free of the burden your self loathing ass brings to their lives everyday.
When you hufflepuff this mortal coil, you will shit yourself just like your faux president, Mr. Biden. You're not coming back. Think of it as your personal cRapture. FOADBB. You will suffer eternity alone.
Your wife will bring a date to your funeral. What a sack of shit your kind is. FOADYWDET
That's it? No "feeeeellllingggs" or "real world" shit? No three paragraphs regurgitated nonsense that has posted ad nauseam because you can't think of anything else? Well I think we now know that dying certainly didn't improve your IQ.
"Sources say" ::)
Hahahahaha the latest excuse is that Trumpy declassified the documents post presidency. He didn’t have the power to. Hahahhahaaaa. That little excuse didn’t last long before it morphed into Trumpy gave “standing orders” for the documents to be declassified later. Hahahaha. Not working either.
Is this really going to come down to whether Trump "officially" declassified documents or not? Is that the crux of this thing?
Not whether or not those docs represented any threats to national security or whatnot?
Proving once again you’re not too bright. It’s like every post
:D
Proving once again you are a retard who doesn’t understand simple facts or comments that comes out of the Orange buffoons mouth.
:D
Like "100 intelligence officials" who said hunter laptop was "russian disinfo." ::) ::) ::)
You haven’t shown shit with the exception of how fucking stupid you are. There’s a fact for you. And yes, you are a communist as well as anyone that supports Biden. You’re just too stupid to realize it and I can prove it
You haven’t shown shit except leftist talking points. Both you and Lurker have ALWAYS been proven wrong. Lurker that dipshit, kept bringing up Roy Moore when I knew it was bullshit back in 2017 and sure as shit he last week he won his defamation suit. Leftist are some of dumbest species on the planet by far
Oh I don't doubt that.
I'm just trying to stay within the context of this example.
If it IS really just whether or not "correct" declassification procedure was followed, rather than the docs themselves, it's another complete partisan bust.
Yes, this is all that it will turn out to be. If they had some bombshell, it would’ve been dropped by now. Your at least have heard leaks from sources on CNN.
Is this really going to come down to whether Trump "officially" declassified documents or not? Is that the crux of this thing?The alphabet organizations are government sponsored terrorists cells used against the American people by whichever political party is in house at the time.
Not whether or not those docs represented any threats to national security or whatnot?
Proving once again you are a retard who doesn’t understand simple facts or comments that comes out of the Orange buffoons mouth.
LOL! Here we go again. ::)
It's not hard. JUST TO START..both you, Lurker and your ilk voted for this, ALL OF THIS, the lefts treason, the violence, Antifa, BLM, cop killings, Soro's DA's, jail reform, burning of cities, infringing on our 2A rights, the easing of pedo laws, open boarders, adult and child trafficking across the boarders, fake J6 and the literal political prisoners (a Stalinist show trial by communist standards), the "green new deal" every fucking tax hike, every fucking spending/pork bill since Biden was inaugurated including the $739B fake "climate change" and pork bill, high gas prices, begging for oil, the failed Afganistan rescue.....etc etc, etc YOU OWN IT
It's not hard. JUST TO START..both you, Lurker and your ilk voted for this, ALL OF THIS, the lefts treason, the violence, Antifa, BLM, cop killings, Soro's DA's, jail reform, burning of cities, infringing on our 2A rights, the easing of pedo laws, open boarders, adult and child trafficking across the boarders, fake J6 and the literal political prisoners (a Stalinist show trial by communist standards), the "green new deal" every fucking tax hike, every fucking spending/pork bill since Biden was inaugurated including the $739B fake "climate change" and pork bill, high gas prices, begging for oil, the failed Afganistan rescue.....etc etc, etc YOU OWN IT
CNN? lolHow can anyone use them as a source and expect to be taken seriously?
CNN? lol
It's not hard. JUST TO START..both you, Lurker and your ilk voted for this, ALL OF THIS, the lefts treason, the violence, Antifa, BLM, cop killings, Soro's DA's, jail reform, burning of cities, infringing on our 2A rights, the easing of pedo laws, open boarders, adult and child trafficking across the boarders, fake J6 and the literal political prisoners (a Stalinist show trial by communist standards), the "green new deal" every fucking tax hike, every fucking spending/pork bill since Biden was inaugurated including the $739B fake "climate change" and pork bill, high gas prices, begging for oil, the failed Afganistan rescue.....etc etc, etc YOU OWN IT
How can anyone use them as a source and expect to be taken seriously?
Hahahahahaha. As opposed to voting for the Orange turd that is under multiple investigations, has a toddler mentality, can’t stop lying and only appeals to mouth breathers dumber than he is.
Don’t worry, there’s more to come. Hahahhaa
It's not hard. JUST TO START..both you, Lurker and your ilk voted for this, ALL OF THIS, the lefts treason, the violence, Antifa, BLM, cop killings, Soro's DA's, jail reform, burning of cities, infringing on our 2A rights, the easing of pedo laws, open boarders, adult and child trafficking across the boarders, fake J6 and the literal political prisoners (a Stalinist show trial by communist standards), the "green new deal" every fucking tax hike, every fucking spending/pork bill since Biden was inaugurated including the $739B fake "climate change" and pork bill, high gas prices, begging for oil, the failed Afganistan rescue.....etc etc, etc YOU OWN IT
Absolutely. I don’t think it’s enough actually. I can’t wait for the mass food shortages that kick off the second civil war.
How we voted is not proof of anything not even of how we voted unless you have magical access to our voting records. It is not even proof that we even voted at all. People say they voted just to be PC, (can’t speak for others, but I do vote every time there is an election and/or ballot measures).
Once again you make the mistake of thinking your opinions prove anything. Opinions are not proof; they are opinions. Some of them address things that happened prior to Biden taking office. BLM and burning cities for example.
Did you get tired of repeating yourself when you added etcetera three times with dots suggesting an infinite number of non-proofs. Maybe 'poofs into thin air' is a better description of your 'proof' claims.
Spin it anyway you like. How you vote is proof since not only were you told what would happen if Biden and his administration somehow got in but exceeded our expectations 10 fold. Either you wanted this current state of the country or just too ignorant to vote. So yes, you own it
We'll never know. It'll end up being "Major danger. We saved the world from Donald Trump, who wants to destroy the world. Obviously we can't show you because it's Classified Top Secret."
Then both sides will say "See? Told ya so."
And no discussion will ever ensue about the wild overuse of the Top Secret stamp to keep people in the dark and place the actions of every administration's government beyond scrutiny. "Trust us." Sure.
Excellent observations.
I read an article just today where the author was saying pretty the same thing with regards to Trump and this latest business with the FBI. If they move forward to file criminal charges against him, they better have a ton of evidence and have it right because their record is extremely poor dating back to the Russian collusion fiasco.
Some say that even if Trump ends up being inarguably guilty of something criminal, his most staunch followers will likely not abandon him and may create so much civil unrest, it will be like almost nothing this country has ever seen before, (now I am even talking like Trump, LOL!).
Maybe the government needs to keep secrets from our enemies, whoever they are, but it often seems like too much is kept from the public eye which leads us right into the breeding ground of conspiracy theories. I remember back when that a lot of folks were confident the government was hiding information about flying saucers. Looking back at it this seems ridiculous. For one thing it would just be one government or country but many or even all. The likelihood of space aliens only being interested in the U.S. is just plain stupid.
I mentioned earlier that over the many years I have been alive and somewhat aware it seems as if everything balances out. Sometimes what is going on seems worse than in other times and sometimes it seems better. One aspect of today’s situation which I believe is unique is the almost absolute partisanship and at such opposite poles. Maybe I am spending far too much time on Getbig and on the political forum that it is warping my perspective… Maybe? No, absolutely!
There's nothing foilhat about saying Bush's wars were based on bullshit. It wasn't a 'failure of Intelligence." They lied. Whipped the public into such a frenzy you couldn't question anything without being told to "Support the troops, dickhead!" To this day I haven't seen a single flag waver say, "I got fooled by liars. It's made me reevaluate my misplaced faith in our government."
Or the 'GFC.' Or universal surveillance. Or what became of Assange and Snowden who brought this to the public's attention and wait for a groundswell of gratitude and vindication which will never come. Nothing little green men level CT about that stuff.
There's a crisis of faith. It just doesn't ever seem to come with an admission of getitin' took, or being driven from rationality by propaganda. Note I'm not expressly saying anything about more recent events, lol.
Politics is arguing about policies, etc. When you've got a government lying and strongarming the citizenry, I think you're well beyond being able to call it.politics.
As compared to someone that relies on Infowars, Navarro, IG, and Tik Tok videos?I would trust them more than CNN but that's not saying much.
I’m sure Qoach Todd and find other sources to his liking that posts the same info.
Judge Reinhart formally rejects DOJ argument to keep Trump affidavit sealed, calls raid 'unprecedented'
Fox News ^ | 08/22/2022 | Brooke Singman
Posted on 8/22/2022, 1:01:29
Judge Bruce Reinhart on Monday admitted the FBI's raid on former President Trump's Mar-a-Lago home was "unprecedented" and formally rejected the Justice Department's argument to keep the affidavit leading to the search under seal, citing the "intense public and historical interest."
Reinhart, in a filing Monday morning, said he rejects "the Government’s argument that the present record justifies keeping the entire Affidavit under seal."
"The Government argues that even requiring it to redact portions of the Affidavit that could not reveal agent identities or investigative sources and methods imposes an undue burden on its resources and sets a precedent that could be disruptive and burdensome in future cases," Reinhart wrote. "I do not need to reach the question of whether, in some other case, these concerns could justify denying public access; they very well might."
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Judge Reinhart signed the warrant to search Mar-a-Lago and now he is calling it unprecedented and wants the affidavit unsealed. Very intredasting.
He seemed like such a harmless goof in Beverly Hills Cop.
Dammit, Billy.
I see what you did there.
How we voted is not proof of anything not even of how we voted unless you have magical access to our voting records. It is not even proof that we even voted at all. People say they voted just to be PC, (can’t speak for others, but I do vote every time there is an election and/or ballot measures).
Once again you make the mistake of thinking your opinions prove anything. Opinions are not proof; they are opinions. Some of them address things that happened prior to Biden taking office. BLM and burning cities for example.
Did you get tired of repeating yourself when you added etcetera three times with dots suggesting an infinite number of non-proofs. Maybe 'poofs into thin air' is a better description of your 'proof' claims.
^^ Yeah, obvious answer. ::)
The libs desperately don't want Trump to run for president again. If they don't get a criminal conviction the meltdown will be epic. If her ere to win the next presidential election there will be mass suicides. I have never seen anyone in my lifetime that has so successfully mind fucked so many people. 8)
Yeah, everyone is so scared of a lying toddler who has never gotten more votes than his opponent in both elections he ran in. ::)
The libs desperately don't want Trump to run for president again. If they don't get a criminal conviction the meltdown will be epic. If her ere to win the next presidential election there will be mass suicides. I have never seen anyone in my lifetime that has so successfully mind fucked so many people. 8)
Every time the leftists make up more up shit the higher Trumps popularity rises….keep up the good work
And the more he receives in contributions which he cons his supporters out of. Since the FBI raided Mar-a-largo he is supposedly bringing 1 million a day.
Sooner or later, the jig will be up. When this happens there is going to be a lot of disappointed Republicans.
Yeah, the jigs been up for the Marxist left after. Anything worse that comes out against Trump will only add to his popularity for most think it’s a witch hunt and total bullshit. It just so happened that the raid happened on the 90th day which means anything after that would be considered election interference….too this off with a affidavit that was mostly redacted….🤔
There's a problem with your theory and that is the last I heard Trump said he had made a decision about running for President in 2024, but he has yet to announce it or formalize it. So, technically until he says he is seeking election, there is no election interference.
It’s not a theory.
Guess I am dense because I have no idea why you added a photoshop of Hunter doing coke when the conversation is about Trump announcing his candidacy, which as far as I can tell has yet to happen.
I have this sense that Trump is going down this time. I could be wrong. I have been wrong before. I read today that he is having difficulty finding qualified attorneys to represent him.
And the more he receives in contributions which he cons his supporters out of. Since the FBI raided Mar-a-largo he is supposedly bringing 1 million a day.
Sooner or later, the jig will be up. When this happens there is going to be a lot of disappointed Republicans.
Guess I am dense because I have no idea why you added a photoshop of Hunter doing coke when the conversation is about Trump announcing his candidacy, which as far as I can tell has yet to happen.
Who’s endorsements are dominating? Who’s the face of the GOP? You don’t get it. It’s just 2024, they want him out of politics completely. He’s exposed the leftist agenda and that includes RINO’s. He’s disrupted the DC cabal and cash flow. In 21/2 years Cheney has increased her net worth by $36 million.
Who’s endorsements are dominating? Who’s the face of the GOP? You don’t get it. It’s just 2024, they want him out of politics completely. He’s exposed the leftist agenda and that includes RINO’s. He’s disrupted the DC cabal and cash flow. In 21/2 years Cheney has increased her net worth by $36 million.
I don't have your level of intelligence so perhaps you could explain to me:
how there is election interference?
what election?
&
what candidates have declared their intention to stand in that election ?
I don't have your level of intelligence so perhaps you could explain to me:
how there is election interference?
what election?
&
what candidates have declared their intention to stand in that election ?
Stop! You will confuse him. Logical thinking is not something he's good at. If something doesn't fit his agenda, he either loses it entirely and posts something irrelevant or completely ignores the responses he disagrees with.Leave Biden alone!!
nonsense
if he does not address the simple questions its because he is too chicken
Stop! You will confuse him. Logical thinking is not something he's good at. If something doesn't fit his agenda, he either loses it entirely and posts something irrelevant or completely ignores the responses he disagrees with.
Leave Biden alone!!
I believe Coach is well able and should answer for himself anything else suggests he needs minders which at the very least would be hurtful to him
You were honest enough to admit you hadn't read his relevant post and you qualified your own thoughts such that I am not sure what to think of it.
I believe Coach is well able and should answer for himself anything else suggests he needs minders which at the very least would be hurtful to him
You were honest enough to admit you hadn't read his relevant post and you qualified your own thoughts such that I am not sure what to think of it.
I stated why. Maybe it went over Primes and your head.
Those places have their own set of problems. :(
There are places where Joe Biden and Donald Trump are a real long way away.
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Long-ass read but a good one.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/08/19/think-the-fbi-deserves-the-benefit-of-the-doubt-this-laundry-list-of-corruption-should-make-you-think-again/
An examination of the warrant, however, reveals that it authorized FBI agents to seize any and every document Trump came into contact with as president. Furthermore, none of the three criminal statutes the DOJ cited in the warrant required the material to be classified, according to Cleveland.
From what I read; the FBI didn't want to focus on the document’s classification because it wouldn't likely result charges as serious as espionage and obstruction would. Bu who knows, with all the redactions, how this is going to end up is a huge mystery.
The whining continues. Does this imbecile ever shut up and stop lying? (No)
After claiming -with no evidence (as usual)- that the FBI planted classified documents to “find”, Trumpy is now claiming -with no evidence (again as usual)- that they spread all the documents all over the floor to make it look like he did it.
::)
Cue in the excuses and spin. Hahahahaha
I don’t think he should’ve had that stuff, but to your second point, the pictures were of the stuff spread out on the floor. It’s not like it was sitting there out in the open. It’s like going on a fishing charter and taking pics of all the fish laid out on the dock.
I don’t think he should’ve had that stuff, but to your second point, the pictures were of the stuff spread out on the floor. It’s not like it was sitting there out in the open. It’s like going on a fishing charter and taking pics of all the fish laid out on the dock.
In Heinz sight
Why not? He had the unilateral right to declassify anything without following any kind of protocol. No one else in the country has that kind of power.
I don’t think he should’ve had that stuff, but to your second point, the pictures were of the stuff spread out on the floor. It’s not like it was sitting there out in the open. It’s like going on a fishing charter and taking pics of all the fish laid out on the dock.
I’m sure Mar A Lardo has security cameras and he can show the agents spreading it all around on the floor. I mean he claims it was safe and secure. Top secret information would have been monitored in some way right? Especially when you have phony foreign people infiltrating the premises and hanging out with him.
And if the FBI planted those documents why would he say he wanted them back?
Why not? He had the unilateral right to declassify anything without following any kind of protocol. No one else in the country has that kind of power.
The whining continues.Rich coming from a guy still crying about Trump for the last 6 years. ;D
Does this imbecile ever shut up and stop lying? (No)You do not, unfortunately.
Except no evidence that he actually did even exists.
None of the three criminal laws cited in a search warrant as the basis of the investigation depend on whether documents contain classified information.
Then why did they take pictures of classified markings and use them as a photo op?
Interesting question, Dos. Do you believe that the Fed's photographic display of the classified document discoveries at Mar-lar-go will work in Trump's favor legally or not? Do you think Trump with his ever-diminishing troupe of qualified attorneys shimmy him out of harm’s way as has previously been the case because of Department of Justice missteps? Will the jig never be up? Will all this just end up being a comedy of errors?
Classified markings are irrelevant here. The contents of documents, not its markings, determine whether the document is classified.I've never heard that before. Why hasn't a single media outlet brought that up? This is all about continuing to drag Trump through the mud in an attempt to disqualify him from running again.
But the reason this is friggin stupid is the POTUS has the power to declassify anything, in his sole discretion, without going through any kind of protocol. He's the only person in the country with that kind of authority. So taking a picture of something that says "classified" when those documents were declassified was nothing more than an attempt to influence public opinion. This is particularly effective for people who get their news from most of the MSM.
Trump has an "ever-diminishing troupe of qualified attorneys"? What liberal rag told you that?
If you're asking how this will end, I think it ends with Trump getting inaugurated in January 2025. But that will not stop the DOJ from pursuing this. These are the same people who pushed the Russia hoax for three years. And people who are no longer working there (including Peter Strzok and Andrew Weissmann) are all over the media pushing another fake narrative. These people have no soul. They are unAmerican dirtbags.
Go read up on what Weissmann did to Arthur Andersen.
He doesn't need evidence other than his own comments. There is no protocol.
The most habitual blatant liar in history being taken at his own words? ::)
Yet there would still be evidence they were declassified. Even if it were just moving them to another file cabinet or stamping them. There is none.
Oh the irony
I've never heard that before. Why hasn't a single media outlet brought that up? This is all about continuing to drag Trump through the mud in an attempt to disqualify him from running again.
Because that is not clearly established. There is precedent that a protocol is required. He has to inform someone and steps should be taken. In this case there is no evidence that he uttered those words and even his claim that he had "standing orders" than anything he takes from a secured location marked classifed is magically unclassified isn't supported by his staff.
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/08/trumps-dubious-standing-order-to-declassify-documents/
It seems the pro Trump camp is perfectly fine with a President, even Biden (just kidding) having the god like power to declare documents declassified after the fact when caught storing them at home. I personally believe IF this were the case, which seems a stupid power to have, it should be stopped immediately. You wanna give the President the power to do so, at least have a protocol in place so this doesn't happen. I mean I understand for decades we assumed a President wouldn't remove classified documents when leaving office and store boxes at his house. We learned the hard way that we can't trust our Presidents to be remotely ethical, so we need safeguards in place. This would apply to the pardon crap as well.
Remember Hillary Clinton standard set by comey? She was not even POTUS.
That she was not POTUS worked in her favor. Had she been elected and somehow continued to maintain a server in the basement of her private residence (not the Whitehouse), she'd have been in deeper shit then she was. It is widely held that Comey's last-minute revelation is what got Trump elected.
The impact of Comey’s letter is comparatively easy to quantify. At a maximum, it might have shifted the race by 3 or 4 percentage points toward Donald Trump, swinging Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida to him, perhaps along with North Carolina and Arizona. At a minimum, its impact might have been only a percentage point or so. Still, because Clinton lost Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by less than 1 point, the letter was probably enough to change the outcome of the Electoral College.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-comey-letter-probably-cost-clinton-the-election/results.
Because that is not clearly established. There is precedent that a protocol is required. He has to inform someone and steps should be taken. In this case there is no evidence that he uttered those words and even his claim that he had "standing orders" than anything he takes from a secured location marked classifed is magically unclassified isn't supported by his staff.I wonder if Trump used the alphabet organizations against Obama, if they would have found "classified" material at his joint?
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/08/trumps-dubious-standing-order-to-declassify-documents/
It seems the pro Trump camp is perfectly fine with a President, even Biden (just kidding) having the god like power to declare documents declassified after the fact when caught storing them at home. I personally believe IF this were the case, which seems a stupid power to have, it should be stopped immediately. You wanna give the President the power to do so, at least have a protocol in place so this doesn't happen. I mean I understand for decades we assumed a President wouldn't remove classified documents when leaving office and store boxes at his house. We learned the hard way that we can't trust our Presidents to be remotely ethical, so we need safeguards in place. This would apply to the pardon crap as well.
The most habitual blatant liar in history being taken at his own words? ::)
Yet there would still be evidence they were declassified. Even if it were just moving them to another file cabinet or stamping them. There is none.
I've never heard that before. Why hasn't a single media outlet brought that up? This is all about continuing to drag Trump through the mud in an attempt to disqualify him from running again.
Because that is not clearly established. There is precedent that a protocol is required. He has to inform someone and steps should be taken. In this case there is no evidence that he uttered those words and even his claim that he had "standing orders" than anything he takes from a secured location marked classifed is magically unclassified isn't supported by his staff.
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/08/trumps-dubious-standing-order-to-declassify-documents/
It seems the pro Trump camp is perfectly fine with a President, even Biden (just kidding) having the god like power to declare documents declassified after the fact when caught storing them at home. I personally believe IF this were the case, which seems a stupid power to have, it should be stopped immediately. You wanna give the President the power to do so, at least have a protocol in place so this doesn't happen. I mean I understand for decades we assumed a President wouldn't remove classified documents when leaving office and store boxes at his house. We learned the hard way that we can't trust our Presidents to be remotely ethical, so we need safeguards in place. This would apply to the pardon crap as well.
Because that is not clearly established. There is precedent that a protocol is required. He has to inform someone and steps should be taken. In this case there is no evidence that he uttered those words and even his claim that he had "standing orders" than anything he takes from a secured location marked classifed is magically unclassified isn't supported by his staff.
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/08/trumps-dubious-standing-order-to-declassify-documents/
It seems the pro Trump camp is perfectly fine with a President, even Biden (just kidding) having the god like power to declare documents declassified after the fact when caught storing them at home. I personally believe IF this were the case, which seems a stupid power to have, it should be stopped immediately. You wanna give the President the power to do so, at least have a protocol in place so this doesn't happen. I mean I understand for decades we assumed a President wouldn't remove classified documents when leaving office and store boxes at his house. We learned the hard way that we can't trust our Presidents to be remotely ethical, so we need safeguards in place. This would apply to the pardon crap as well.
I could see if any of our Demturdz here had anything to say about Kilary and the mail-server, a very treasonous, and traitor like crime.
Still wound tight about Trump I see.
Grow some balls, stand up for whats right across the board. She should be in prison, for that and other horrific crimes. Benghazi, etc.
The only evidence required is what the president says he did.
Here is a two minute clip that does a great job of summarizing how broad the president's authority is when it comes to declassification:
Goddammit I’m fucking sick and tired of you fucking leftists using so called “factcheck” or any “fact check” sources you use only to not only have them debunked but proven to be not legit sources loooooong ago. You’re supposedly a fucking detective, is this how you soured your evidence????
Everything, LITERALLY EVERYTHING since the day that fucker rode down that escalator has been debunked….EVERYTHING and it was the sources you use to spew this bullshit were not only debunked but discredited as fact check sources. It’s leftists like you that keep those morons in business because they are in FACT Marixist propaganda sites. You follow (and without knowing it because it takes some semblance of intelligence to realize it) the ideologies of Alinski and Marx to THE FUCKING T!
Agnostic, I know you’re smarter than this.
No you are just sick of facts that you can’t handle in your LaLa Land.
Dipshit…
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/09/05/judge-cannon-grants-trump-request-for-special-master-review-in-mar-a-lago-raid/
There has to be evidence that is was actually declassified. There is none. Even his own aides do not remembering him declassifying it.
Pedofiles and perverts going through Melania drawers. Insane.
“Prove it” - Lurker
Dipshit…
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/09/05/judge-cannon-grants-trump-request-for-special-master-review-in-mar-a-lago-raid/
Did you watch the clip? There is no protocol. The only evidence needed is the president saying he declassified something, which he can do simply by saying it. No writing is required. He's not required to tell someone. So if he says he declassified anything that's the "evidence."
“Prove it” - Lurker
The protocol is not what I am referring to. If a document is classified and becomes classified there must be evidence that it is now declassified. Even if it is nothing more than a rubber stamp on the front. It’s really simple. How else would tell the difference whether it was classified or not?
True story. And you know what's really sinister? A lot of the same players involved in the Russia hoax are involved in this one.
Who are these folks? Can you provide names?
You have to distinguish the POTUS from everyone else in the country. He possess power that no one else has. And yes you really are talking about protocol when you're talking about some "rubber stamp on the front." Documents get classified based on their content. They are then usually "marked" classified. When documents are de-classified, there is no de-classification "stamp." Declassified documents usually still have classified markings. The markings don't determine whether the documents are classified.
For anyone other than the POTUS, you have a point. When it comes to the POTUS, you don't. He has the constitutional authority to declassify anything and doesn't have to provide evidence other than whatever he says. No stamp, letter, memo, etc.
Based on what I've read, the issue isn't so much a matter of document classification or declassification. It is a matter moving and possessing these documents whether classified or not.
True story. And you know what's really sinister? A lot of the same players involved in the Russia hoax are involved in this one.I wonder why liberals don't see this? How many times does a plot have to play out with the same cast before it becomes suspicious?
I wonder why liberals don't see this? How many times does a plot have to play out with the same cast before it becomes suspicious?
You have to distinguish the POTUS from everyone else in the country. He possess power that no one else has. And yes you really are talking about protocol when you're talking about some "rubber stamp on the front." Documents get classified based on their content. They are then usually "marked" classified. When documents are de-classified, there is no de-classification "stamp." Declassified documents usually still have classified markings. The markings don't determine whether the documents are classified.
For anyone other than the POTUS, you have a point. When it comes to the POTUS, you don't. He has the constitutional authority to declassify anything and doesn't have to provide evidence other than whatever he says. No stamp, letter, memo, etc.
Oh they see it. They just don't care. Ends justifies the means for those people.
You are either missing the point or purposely deflecting from it. I am not talking about the President nor the protocol itself. I am talking about the document.
If you have Document A that is classified then the it is declassified there has to be some designation of the current uptake status of the document. The rubber stamp was just for scenario purposes. But anyone that looks at or possesses that document needs to know if it is classified or not. Whether they retrieve it from a certain file cabinet (another scenario) or it is not included on declassified lists. There has to be some evidence that the document is no longer too secret or classified. In this case no evidence exists. Even his aids do not remember him declassifying anything. And he does not have the power to do so post presidency.
I could see if any of our Demturdz here had anything to say about Kilary and the mail-server, a very treasonous, and traitor like crime.
Still wound tight about Trump I see.
Grow some balls, stand up for whats right across the board. She should be in prison, for that and other horrific crimes. Benghazi, etc.
You are either missing the point or purposely deflecting from it. I am not talking about the President nor the protocol itself. I am talking about the document.
If you have Document A that is classified then the it is declassified there has to be some designation of the current uptake status of the document. The rubber stamp was just for scenario purposes. But anyone that looks at or possesses that document needs to know if it is classified or not. Whether they retrieve it from a certain file cabinet (another scenario) or it is not included on declassified lists. There has to be some evidence that the document is no longer too secret or classified. In this case no evidence exists. Even his aids do not remember him declassifying anything. And he does not have the power to do so post presidency.
"Those people" as if all liberal people think alike or all conservative people do. ::)
If memory serves, the GOP had both houses, spent 57 million investigating Benghazi and she testified for (and I could be wrong about this number) 12 hours. They came up with nothing.
Actually they conclusively proved that the attack was not related to a youtube video, but was a preplanned terrorist attack, and they knew it at the time they went out and lied to the public. Remember this lie?
How soon they conveniently forget. Apparently you tried to post disinformation.
You are missing the point. You cannot talk about classification and de-classification when it comes to the POTUS without talking about his broad and unilateral discretion to declassify anything at any time. He doesn't have to keep declassified documents in a SCIF or any kind of filing cabinet. He doesn't have to make a list. It doesn't matter if his aids remember anything, although Kash Patel does remember. But it doesn't matter if none of his aids remember, because he doesn't have to tell them anything.
You might want to read the Presidential Records Act of 1978 which was amended in 2014.In red is what Dos has been saying this whole time, glad your source agrees with him. Looks like another TDS induced witch hunt. ::)
https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html
What is the definition of records under the Presidential and Federal Records Act Amendments of 2014?
(2) The term “Presidential records” means documentary materials, or any reasonably. segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, his the President's immediate. staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise. Dec 11, 2014
8. Could Trump have declassified the removed documents?
Presidents do have ultimate decision-making power over the classification of documents, and Trump could theoretically have declassified any records he removed from the White House. Indeed, former Trump National Security Council member Kash Patel has claimed Trump did just that before leaving office. There is no set procedure for presidential declassification, meaning that could be the basis for a defense if a case proceeds against Trump. But even if Trump was found to have declassified documents, he could still potentially be prosecuted for removing or destroying them. And Richard Painter, chief White House ethics lawyer under President George W. Bush, points out that declassification of documents for an improper purpose could be a crime in itself. “If he declassified documents in order to remove them and destroy them, he’s destroying evidence, and that’s obstruction of justice or obstruction of Congress,” Painter said.
https://www.congress.gov/93/statute/STATUTE-88/STATUTE-88-Pg1695-2.pdf
Questions and answers about automatic declassification;
https://www.justice.gov/archives/open/declassification/declassification-faq#:~:text=EQUATE%20AUTOMATIC%20DISCLOSURE%3F-,No.,disclosure%20of%20records%20or%20information.
Public Records Act:
"Every president, when they leave office, those records that have been created by the president and his staff are presidential records that go to the National Archives," Baron said. "The owner is the American people."
The PRA thus makes clear that only the United States (and not former President Trump) owns and is authorized to possess and control the presidential documents.
The PRA gives a former president certain rights to access and limit access to the documents in the possession of the United States, but it rules out the possibility of a former president possessing presidential records after his presidential term.
This includes all presidential material, whether it's routine, unclassified notes or top-secret national security documents.
In red is what Dos has been saying this whole time, glad your source agrees with him. Looks like another TDS induced witch hunt. ::)
You might want to read the Presidential Records Act of 1978 which was amended in 2014.
https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html
What is the definition of records under the Presidential and Federal Records Act Amendments of 2014?
(2) The term “Presidential records” means documentary materials, or any reasonably. segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, his the President's immediate. staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise. Dec 11, 2014
8. Could Trump have declassified the removed documents?
Presidents do have ultimate decision-making power over the classification of documents, and Trump could theoretically have declassified any records he removed from the White House. Indeed, former Trump National Security Council member Kash Patel has claimed Trump did just that before leaving office. There is no set procedure for presidential declassification, meaning that could be the basis for a defense if a case proceeds against Trump. But even if Trump was found to have declassified documents, he could still potentially be prosecuted for removing or destroying them. And Richard Painter, chief White House ethics lawyer under President George W. Bush, points out that declassification of documents for an improper purpose could be a crime in itself. “If he declassified documents in order to remove them and destroy them, he’s destroying evidence, and that’s obstruction of justice or obstruction of Congress,” Painter said.
https://www.congress.gov/93/statute/STATUTE-88/STATUTE-88-Pg1695-2.pdf
Questions and answers about automatic declassification;
https://www.justice.gov/archives/open/declassification/declassification-faq#:~:text=EQUATE%20AUTOMATIC%20DISCLOSURE%3F-,No.,disclosure%20of%20records%20or%20information.
Public Records Act:
"Every president, when they leave office, those records that have been created by the president and his staff are presidential records that go to the National Archives," Baron said. "The owner is the American people."
The PRA thus makes clear that only the United States (and not former President Trump) owns and is authorized to possess and control the presidential documents.
The PRA gives a former president certain rights to access and limit access to the documents in the possession of the United States, but it rules out the possibility of a former president possessing presidential records after his presidential term.
This includes all presidential material, whether it's routine, unclassified notes or top-secret national security documents.
:D
Strange you Manage To Highlight so much
Yet Miss This Part
There is no set procedure for presidential declassification
Mere Oversight Perhaps. ::)
TDS in Full Flight
You are missing the point. You cannot talk about classification and de-classification when it comes to the POTUS without talking about his broad and unilateral discretion to declassify anything at any time. He doesn't have to keep declassified documents in a SCIF or any kind of filing cabinet. He doesn't have to make a list. It doesn't matter if his aids remember anything, although Kash Patel does remember. But it doesn't matter if none of his aids remember, because he doesn't have to tell them anything.
There has to be evidence that the material was declassified. There. Is. None.
In red is what Dos has been saying this whole time, glad your source agrees with him. Looks like another TDS induced witch hunt. ::)
Well the Presidential Records Act is a good source of information. One that Attorneys will use to argue their case. Unfortunately, for Trump there are other issues with taking and holding these documents whether classified or not.
Presidential Records Act of 1978 which was amended in 2014.
https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html
What is the definition of records under the Presidential and Federal Records Act Amendments of 2014?
(2) The term “Presidential records” means documentary materials, or any reasonably. segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, his the President's immediate. staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise. Dec 11, 2014
8. Could Trump have declassified the removed documents?
Presidents do have ultimate decision-making power over the classification of documents, and Trump could theoretically have declassified any records he removed from the White House. Indeed, former Trump National Security Council member Kash Patel has claimed Trump did just that before leaving office. There is no set procedure for presidential declassification, meaning that could be the basis for a defense if a case proceeds against Trump. But even if Trump was found to have declassified documents, he could still potentially be prosecuted for removing or destroying them. And Richard Painter, chief White House ethics lawyer under President George W. Bush, points out that declassification of documents for an improper purpose could be a crime in itself. “If he declassified documents in order to remove them and destroy them, he’s destroying evidence, and that’s obstruction of justice or obstruction of Congress,” Painter said.
Well the Presidential Records Act is a good source of information. One that Attorneys will use to argue their case. Unfortunately, for Trump there are other issues with taking and holding these documents whether classified or not.There's a few big "ifs" that need to be proven in that drivel of a paragraph there.
Presidential Records Act of 1978 which was amended in 2014.
https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html
What is the definition of records under the Presidential and Federal Records Act Amendments of 2014?
(2) The term “Presidential records” means documentary materials, or any reasonably. segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, his the President's immediate. staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise. Dec 11, 2014
8. Could Trump have declassified the removed documents?
Presidents do have ultimate decision-making power over the classification of documents, and Trump could theoretically have declassified any records he removed from the White House. Indeed, former Trump National Security Council member Kash Patel has claimed Trump did just that before leaving office. There is no set procedure for presidential declassification, meaning that could be the basis for a defense if a case proceeds against Trump. But even if Trump was found to have declassified documents, he could still potentially be prosecuted for removing or destroying them. And Richard Painter, chief White House ethics lawyer under President George W. Bush, points out that declassification of documents for an improper purpose could be a crime in itself. “If he declassified documents in order to remove them and destroy them, he’s destroying evidence, and that’s obstruction of justice or obstruction of Congress,” Painter said.
So when do you think they’ll raid Clinton and Obama’s homes? Better yet, what do you think would be found if they did a legit vetting of the Clinton’s, Obama’s and Biden’s the same way they did with Trump?
Unfortunately for Trump, if or when the feds served search warrants and/or did a 'legit vetting' on those three folks 'the same way they did with Trump' regardless of what was found it would not provide Trump a defense or affect his case. I'm a bit surprised you admitted here that the feds did a legitimate vetting of Trump. I imagined you think his was illegitimate.
Do you think a 'but, but they did it too' defense would get very far? I tried that tactic years ago when I was stopped for speeding and I told the Highway Patrol that everyone else was going the same speed as me, I was still ticketed - and I also had to pay the fine. :)
And you actually believe this? Maybe I should replace vetting with investigations
The only evidence required is Trump saying he declassified. He said it. That's evidence. Nothing else is required.
There is more to the process. Declassified docs are stamped to show it.
Former Spy Assesses Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Documents
how will anybody else in now and in the future know which documents have been declassified by Mr trump?
"Vetting" is no more than a word when reason and proof are lacking in said process. Trust me on this. Or...NOT.
Those among us who are little more than an Asstrich will say, "But Scott! You've got a room temp IQ, what could I possibly learn from you?" Answer - The Truth.
But you really do not need me to show you the way, open your eyes to the truth of their lies. And therein lies the problem. Being an Asstrich means you've got your head so far up your own ass you can't see anything but shit.
"But Trump is a meanie! Waaaaah!" So then, you prefer indentured servitude to being Energy Independent, taking home more of your hard earned money, having criminals put in jail and kept there because Mr. Trump is "mean"?
Nubainian, puhleeeeeeeeeeze!
I suggest you move to Russia or some islime-ic pigsty. The former will lock you up and the latter will feed you a constant diet of head-cheese.
I am correct because what I say is truth and not because it is I saying it. Move to an islime-ic kuntry. I hope Oak does and that he dies there from semen overload. Fuckin' liar that he is.
Anyone that disagrees with the truth and prefers this regime over Mr. Trump's presidency is a cuck of the worst order.
Only it's not just Donald is it ?
The same applies to every other President , You seem to of Overlooked
That simple Fact. ::)
Only it's not just Donald is it ?
The same applies to every other President , You seem to of Overlooked
That simple Fact. ::)
Strange you Manage To Highlight so much
Yet Miss This Part
There is no set procedure for presidential declassification
Mere Oversight Perhaps. ::)
TDS in Full Flight
The only evidence required is Trump saying he declassified. He said it. That's evidence. Nothing else is required.
The only evidence required is Trump saying he declassified. He said it. That's evidence. Nothing else is required.
how will anybody else in now and in the future know which documents have been declassified by Mr trump?
So the fact that his attorneys neglected to mention this to the court, is an oversight. If so, he should hire new attorneys to represent him.:D
How do you know he said it? Given the history of habitual lying he has no credibility.
On that same note he can’t claim he said with no evidence otherwise. Saying it NOW is a bit late in the game.
how will anybody else in now and in the future know which documents have been declassified by Mr trump?
So the fact that his attorneys neglected to mention this to the court, is an oversight. If so, he should hire new attorneys to represent him.
I don't know the context. What specific filings are you talking about?
By him telling them what documents he declassified.
I did mention this in an earlier post. But I should have provided the information in this one as well. There may be other court filings involved, but the one I was referring to is the recent one regarding a special master. When something is not said is harder to prove than when something is said. To date, his lawyers have not mounted a defense based on those document classifications, in fact they have yet to mention classification or declassification in any court appearance since the warrant was executed.
Here's an interest tidbit. The absolute ability to classify or declassify documents at will only applies to the sitting President. If he wanted to and it were necessary, Biden could (re)classify all those documents in question. So far that hasn't been an issue because no one thus far has shown proof they were ever declassified.
Whether classified or not, it is the content of the documents, including the security risk involved that will be of most importance. Have you read the law violations invoked in the FBI warrant? 1. Section 793 of Title 18 of the U.S. Code (the Espionage Act) 2. Section 1519 -Sarbanes-Oxley Act (obstruction of justice). 3. Section 2071, criminalizes the theft or destruction of government documents (note whether classified or declassified the documents seized remain government documents).
Hope this answers your question.
Which I think he did in a general sense when he said he declassified all of them. The problem is that there is no proof of this. Furthermore, their classification is not the primary issue.
When Trump supposedly said 'they're mine', he was wrong. They belong to the U.S. government and not a private citizen who wanted them for reasons unknown.
Thanks. I don't think it matters.
This entire situation is FUBAR. This isn't a situation where someone improperly accessed classified information. Trump obviously had the right to possess whatever he wanted as president. He had the power to declassify anything. He maintains a security clearance after leaving office (i.e., he still has one now). He is provided either a SCIF or needs to have a secure location when possessing documents that are still classified after leaving office. His home is protected by the secret service. So what the heck is the problem?
This is absolutely politically motivated. The guy who started this hates Trump, thought 6 January was the worst day of his life ::), and wanted to ensure he was replaced by a Democrat:
NARA then explained that upon learning of Clinton’s use of a non-governmental email account in March 2015, it “immediately acted In accordance with our regulations by sending a letter to the State Department, setting off the process described above.” Significantly, while noting that the use of the non-government email may result in a separate DOJ investigation, in the case of Clinton, “NARA has not Initiated an ‘Investigation’ of Secretary Clinton’s email practices; rather, as noted above, we have been communicating with the State Department on this matter, and are deferring to the State Department’s review (and any other agencies conducting Investigations).”
In contrast, in the case of Trump, NARA referred the matter of documents stamped “classified” to the DOJ, which promptly opened an investigation into Trump and used a grand jury to subpoena Trump and others.
Numerous public statements by Ferriero, who at the time of the referral to the DOJ served as the country’s archivist, suggest a partisan goal underlying the referral. First was Ferriero’s bizarre overreaction to “watching the Trumps leaving the White House and getting off in the helicopter” while someone was “carrying a white banker box.” “What the hell’s in that box?,” Ferriero claimed he asked himself.
Then there was Ferriero’s admission that he decided to retire at the end of April 2022 “because he is worried about the political future.” “It’s important to me, that this administration replace me,” Ferriero said, adding, “I’m concerned about what’s going to happen in 2024. I don’t want it left to … the unknowns of the presidential election.”
That’s quite a strange statement for an archivist to make, suggesting as it does that politics matter in the performance of his role.
Third, Ferriero’s comments during a post-retirement interview discussing Jan. 6, suggest he holds an anti-Trump bias. “On his office television, David S. Ferriero, the archivist of the United States, had watched outgoing President Donald Trump whip up the right-wing crowd near the White House,” the Post reported. Ferriero said he recalled watching “this angry mob … really angry, angry people” and thinking to himself, “if these people realize what’s in this building they’re passing, we’re at risk here.” The former archivist called January 6, 2021, “the worst day of his tenure as the keeper of the nation’s collective memory,” and “the worst day of my life” — “the absolute worst.”
It is not merely NARA’s referral to the DOJ and Ferriero’s apparent bias that suggests a political motive, however: It is the reality that even if the documents were classified, Trump has the right to access them and NARA could have worked with the former president to set up a secure location for his presidential papers, which is precisely what Ferriero and the NARA did with Barack Obama.
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Records Suggest A Backbench Bureaucrat’s Partisan Grievance Spurred The FBI’s Nakedly Political Raid On Trump
BY: MARGOT CLEVELAND
AUGUST 15, 2022
https://thefederalist.com/2022/08/15/from-bureaucrat-hack-to-grand-jury-witch-hunt-the-dojs-trump-raid-smells-like-spygate/
Whether Trump was entitled to remove those documents from the Whitehouse and store them at the Mar-a-lago private club remains to be seen.
Mar-a-lago membership is open to folks willing to pay a $200,000 fee to join plus $14,000 a year in dues. I could find nothing that suggests they need government security clearances or be citizens of the U.S. Most of the staff has been and continues to be foreigners. Business must be booming because Mar-a-Lago was looking to bring on 91 temporary foreign workers in 2022.
The secret service or their designees are there to protect Trump and his family. I doubt maintaining high level security for government documents is in part of their job description.
Hillary was forbidden by Federal law to have that server in her closet (along with a few other things and people) and yet nothing happened to her. The so-called "playing field" is not "level" but it needs to be leveled.
I am NOT a plowhorse for these swine. The status quo hates Mr. Trump because he is for the people. He is one of us, an American first. Do NOT be an Asstrich! If you or any here possess even a modicum of common sense, it is there for all to see. And never forget (despite the MSM not speaking about it very much) four officers have "committed suicide" for the lies of these pigs.
Just because there was no camera to not catch it does not mean they took their own lives. Utter bullshit.
How is Trump "one of us"? How is he like you? How is he anything like the average working person? How is he like any middleclass American? He my talk like some of us; after all this is what grifters do.
The status quo are the people, most of us anyway.
How does Hillary doing something wrong or illegal have anything to do with Trump's actions? Oh yeah, because she got away with it. Well so has Trump up until now and who knows how this will turn out. He may literally have to do what he said he could in 2016 and shoot someone dead in the middle of 5th avenue and not lose any voters, but he might get arrested and charged. LOL!
He doesn't need proof other than his own statements.
He disputes whether the documents belong to him or the government. Regardless, you don't send 30 FBI agents to raid the private residence of a former president over this, including taking Melanie's clothes, Trump's passports, and reportedly searching Barron's room. Any liberty-loving American should be appalled and frightened by this incredible abuse of power.
One need not be "poor" or "middle class" to be an American. An American that loves our Nation. I have met more than a few folk (John's friends) who have met with Mr. Trump and they have told me they found no deceit in him. Some also have met Hillary and Hillary on the left hand, or as it was known during the Renaissance, "the hand of the devil", is full of shit. I trust these men and women. I look them in the eye and see the soul of the Founding Fathers in their love for our Nation.
There is without question deceit in our government, in our law ENFARCEMENT, in our milifairy and more. As I said, I refuse to be a plowhorse. This was a reference to Orwell's "Animal Farm". Hillary's actions go unpunished because she is a part, a MAJOR part of the problem. Mr. Trump has been proven over and over to be guiltless and still these scum go after him like relentless Hellhounds.
It is jokingly said that if you throw an attorney in waters filled with sharks, they will accord him passage due to brofessional courtesy. One of John's friends laughed and told me that was true, unless there was a least one Great White. This was in reference to the left's outright HATRED of white Americans for the skin color alone but especially so if they were also Conservative. He said the Great White was used because of libs HATRED of "whitey" but they also loathed any and all Conservatives and would call black Conservatives "Uncle Toms" and under Trumps administration they called them "WHN".
I trust those men and women far more than I do words written here with intent to disparage the finest President of these United States in my lifetime. Allow me...
Libs SELLEBRATE divershitty over all else. Qualifications are lowered or tossed aside to make room for mediocrity in the name of "fairness". Libs SELLEBRATE that which make us, in their soulless eyes, "different". Libs HATE America and call it "racist". They are Nazis. It is easier to conquer a nation divided and division is what they are "teaching".
Conservatives celebrate that which we share. We are first and foremost, AMERICANS. We have far more in common than that which differentiates us. A Nation United cannot, will NOT be conquered. These Demoncrat Nazis must not prevail for if they do, you can bet that the elderly, the handicapped, the for whatever reason "undesirable and unwanted" will be turned into plowhorses until they are worn down and plowed under. Many here have no idea what these foul creatures called Democrats and RINOs are truly like once they get a taste of power. And like a dog, they will return to their vomit for more.
Do not believe my words? More's the pity.
Why do you suppose Trump's attorney's have not mentioned Trump's claim that all of the documents were declassified or asserted any claim of executive privilege in their court filing to have a special master review them?
Interesting that a lot of folks posting on Getbig continue to talk/argue about Trump having declassified all the documents prior to removing them from the Whitehouse.
Could it be that it is one thing to lie to the public and quite another to lie in court?
You Completely avoided answering my Question ::)
Just typing Crap for the sake of it - as You yet again are Stumped by a fact.
Same rules Apply To Donald as any other President - If His word is enough Then Their word is Enough.
Simple Enough isnt it.
How about this, if the same rules apply and his word isn't enough then their word isn't either.
Here's an idea, you don't ask me questions and I won't bother you with responses you don't like.
You are right, one does not need to be poor or middle class to be an American. However, a majority of the people in the U.S. consider themselves as middle class. Did you not say this? "...Mr. Trump because he is for the people. He is one of us." If “us” does not mean the majority what does it mean and who are these people?
You have every right to believe what you do, just as I have that right to believe what I do.
Would you explain to me what you think Trump has done to show that he 'loves America'. Saying something is not the same as doing it.
Did you not watch any of Trump's and Biden's rallies? Americans that love America love Mr. Trump. Thousands turn up to listen to him speak for our Nation. I think Biden had ten idiots show up in one state...
Are we to understand that you enjoy having a demented shitbag and thief and his drug addict son in the White House? The price of goods and services have skyrocketed but crime has gone to the Moon. Are we to understand that you think crime is non-existent and inflation is not a problem?
Are we to understand that you think being energy independent is bad for our Nation? California took away Nuclear power stations and declares war of a sort on the ICE. Then when the weather gets hot tells us we can't use electricity because it puts a strain on the system.
Biden is a thief as is his son. The man looks lost but he's never alone because he's got his imaginery friends with him. You know, the invisible sort he's forever trying to shake hands with. The man looks like a pedo. What kind of man talks about kids stroking his leg hairs in the pool? Are we to understand you don't think that is not only weird but disgusting?
Are we to understand you think that high unemployment is great for out Nation? That paying more than double for fuel is fine for our Nation. That the Vice President is, the President aside, is the dumbest, most retarded person in the world of politics? Have you listened to that peter-principal VP "speak"? Are we to understand that you think there are dozens of genders and that it is fine to mutilate children, murder (albeit forced labor) newborns by getting them out of the womb and setting them on the burger warmer? I could go on but you are either for out Nation and her citizens or against US and for the shitizens?
I am correct again.
Did you not watch any of Trump's and Biden's rallies? Americans that love America love Mr. Trump. Thousands turn up to listen to him speak for our Nation. I think Biden had ten idiots show up in one state...
Are we to understand that you enjoy having a demented shitbag and thief and his drug addict son in the White House? The price of goods and services have skyrocketed but crime has gone to the Moon. Are we to understand that you think crime is non-existent and inflation is not a problem?
Are we to understand that you think being energy independent is bad for our Nation? California took away Nuclear power stations and declares war of a sort on the ICE. Then when the weather gets hot tells us we can't use electricity because it puts a strain on the system.
Biden is a thief as is his son. The man looks lost but he's never alone because he's got his imaginery friends with him. You know, the invisible sort he's forever trying to shake hands with. The man looks like a pedo. What kind of man talks about kids stroking his leg hairs in the pool? Are we to understand you don't think that is not only weird but disgusting?
Are we to understand you think that high unemployment is great for out Nation? That paying more than double for fuel is fine for our Nation. That the Vice President is, the President aside, is the dumbest, most retarded person in the world of politics? Have you listened to that peter-principal VP "speak"? Are we to understand that you think there are dozens of genders and that it is fine to mutilate children, murder (albeit forced labor) newborns by getting them out of the womb and setting them on the burger warmer? I could go on but you are either for out Nation and her citizens or against US and for the shitizens?
I am correct again.
He said it. He posted it on Truth Social. However, just as you say, he did this after the fact. My guess is it is not going to make much difference if he declassified them or not. The documents do not belong to him. They are government documents which technically belong to us, although if they are classified or contain top secret information, we will likely never see them, much less be able to have them in our possession. This is what the National Archives and Records Administration is for.
In case you forgot, this conversation is about whether "The status quo hates Mr. Trump because he is for the people. He is one of us, an American first."
We were talking about Trump being for the people. You bring Biden into the conversation. What has Biden to do with Trump being for the people?
Crime rates in 2020 and 2021 are up as is inflation. What does that have to do with Trump being for the people?
Whether Biden is a "shitbag" and his son Hunter is a thief and a drug addict and whether I enjoy having Biden in the Whitehouse is irrelevant. As best as I know, Hunter isn't in the Whitehouse. More importantly, I have never said this. So, where are you getting this notion?
Did I ever say high unemployment and paying double for fuel, is good for our nation? Or that being energy independent is bad for the nation? I did not. I am not going to respond to things I never said and that have nothing to do with a conversation that was about Trump.
The next paragraph in your post is you rambling on about what you personally think about these people. You are entitled to believe whatever you choose. Your beliefs have nothing to do with the original post about Trump and my response to that post.
Now you have digressed even further with comments about the Vice President, gender issues, mutilating children, and murdering babies.
Either I am for or against the U.S. and its citizens? Come on. As if everything is black or white. ::) You've gone so far out in left field here that it is almost difficult to remember the conversation was about Trump being for the people and one of them.
But hey, apparently, my post inspired you to air all your grievances and assumptions. Hope you enjoyed doing this.
You can thank me later for giving you the opportunity to get up on your soap box today. Do you feel better now that you got all this off your chest?
Scott,
As You well Know Prime won't answer any of them questions with Straight Yes or No answers
He'll try convoluted Waffle to bypass ignore them all .
Unless he can Simply State NO to each question
Then He's Most Definitely For all of it.
It's Not Remotely Difficult to State a Simple NO to all those questions.
Let's....... wait & see if I'm right or he Proves me Wrong with simple Yes / No answers .
I know. I have hope but it is most likely hopeless.
HE Didn't & Just waffled on & on ::)
Simple Yes/ No answers aren't within his Grasp.
Yes, as I said to him he reminds of my aunties who say the don't like Mr. Trump and the ONLY reason given is he is "mean". At the least that line of reasoning is anything but reasonable. It is childish and rooted in the world of woke bullshit.
"Sigh"...You sir, remind me of my aunties. You dislike Mr. Trump because he is a "meanie" and you care not for the ineffective and dangerous policies of Mr. Biden's administration . I told you several reasons for why I think Mr. Trump is for Americans and you have chosen to ignore them. They are very good examples.
Do not think to treat with me as you would an idiot. I am slow on a great many things but John's friends, whom I mentioned have explained much to me and they are in D.C. They are not like you and I nor anyone else here.
I also gave points on the idiocy of the Biden House of Non-Color. The Veep is a fucktard and even I could out debate that prime example of the peter prinicple moron. You are a nice enough gentlemen, but again do NOT make the error of treating with me as an idiot.
I am a MAGA Man. Not ashamed to be be an American First. I am behind our allies such as Great Britain, Australia and more. Just as Mr. Trump is, I too am American. He is a multi-millionaire or better. Me? Not even close. But I do not mind. He is more a man of and for the people of our Nation than anyone in decades. You just do not like him and for all intents and purposes it appears for the silliest, most childish "reasons".
Fine. I do not care for Mr. Biden and that simpleton of a Vice President of his. They and all who support them are without honor. You know whereof I speak and still you play a poorly planed game of words?
I am not here to change anyone's mind. Again, I have heard from many of John's friends and I trust them for there is no deceit in men and women of such quality. They are proud to be Americans.
Scott, it was not my intention to offend you or make you angry. We simply don't agree on some issues. That is the way the world works. People don't always agree, nor should they. Absolute agreement leads to complacency, which is not a good thing, IMO.
If what I wrote seemed like a game of words, that wasn't what I'd hoped. You and I were having a conversation about one subject, that being Trump's being for the people and his love of and devotion to the U.S. and you used that very basic conversation to air a heck of a lot of stuff that disgruntles you but has almost nothing to do with what we were talking about. I wasn't and still am not sure whether this was what you meant to do or if it just spilled out like a river from a failed dam of discontent.
Not sure how many times I have to say this before it sinks in, but I'll give it another try. I dislike Trump and always have. So far, he's done nothing to change my mind. It has nothing to do with his being a "meanie" which he sometimes is. Or because he's amillionairebillionaire. Not sure if reminding you of your aunties is a good thing since I don't know them.
I never thought of or treated you like a idiot. You do a pretty good job of this yourself. I happen to disagree with you. You are a very clever person with an interesting and entertaining writing style.
Maybe I should know this, but who is John? Who are his friends?
Everything boils down to perspective. Not sure what you think are the reasons I don't like Trump. If you think they are silly and childish, that's up to you. I don't need to justify them to you or anyone else.
Yes, you certainly did give points and plenty of them. Not all of which I agree with. Clearly you and I see many things differently and as I said that's okay.
I also not ashamed of being an American.
MAGA - Make America Great Again. IMO, America is great!
Trumpy still claims FBI planted evidence even though his lawyers do not pursue that claim.That works, Presidential discretion, right?
Meanwhile evidence of his declassification has been found.
Trumpy still claims FBI planted evidence even though his lawyers do not pursue that claim.
Meanwhile evidence of his declassification has been found.
That works, Presidential discretion, right?
Yes, as I said to him he reminds of my aunties who say the don't like Mr. Trump and the ONLY reason given is he is "mean". At the least that line of reasoning is anything but reasonable. It is childish and rooted in the world of woke bullshit.
The truth is not Lurker or Prime can’t say why they don’t like except for what they’re told and mimic by their MSM but both said Biden is doing a great job. What does that tell you?
It tells me that you ignore what we say regarding Trump because it doesn't fit your agenda. Find where I said Biden is doing a great job and post it on Getbig. I have stated that I agree with some of Biden's policies. I have never said he is doing a great job, not because he isn't but because it is too soon for me to know this.
I do not need to explain why I don't like Trump to you or anyone else. I have repeatedly said that I never liked him. I think he is a jerk, a grifter and basically an ass. I always have... long before he ran for office and moved into the Whitehouse.
:D
If they were, they would just say they were. Right?
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Trump’s Lawyers Contradict Trump’s Claim That Mar-a-Lago Docs Were Declassified.
Former President Trump’s lawyers contradicted his assertions that the documents seized by the Department of Justice from his home at Mar-a-Lago were declassified, arguing in a court filing on Monday that the documents’ classification status should be “determined later.”
Trump’s lawyers did not claim that Trump had classified the documents, only that he had broad, virtually unquestionable authority to do so. The roundabout irresolution stands in contrast to Trump publicly stating that he had declassified the documents.
Nikki McCann Ramirez
Mon, September 12, 2022 at 12:34 PM·3 min read
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Former President Trump’s lawyers contradicted his assertions that the documents seized by the Department of Justice from his home at Mar-a-Lago were declassified, arguing in a court filing on Monday that the documents’ classification status should be “determined later.”
Trump’s lawyers did not claim that Trump had classified the documents, only that he had broad, virtually unquestionable authority to do so. The roundabout irresolution stands in contrast to Trump publicly stating that he had declassified the documents.
The filing was made in response to the DOJ’s appeal of Judge Aileen Cannon’s decision to appoint a “special master” to conduct a review of the documents. The DOJ is seeking to shorten the period of time granted for the review, to exclude more than 100 classified documents, and to modify the criteria under which the review is conducted to exclude claims of privilege.
Despite the judge’s decision to grant the request for a special master, the DOJ already reviewed the documents while the Trump camp waited two weeks before filing their opposing motion. The trove of documents seized in the Aug. 8 raid contained almost two hundred documents with high-level classification markings, including “top secret” designations. According to The Washington Post, some of the documents contained information about an unidentified “foreign government’s nuclear-defense readiness.”
The filing on Monday indicates Trump’s team is seeking to apply a two-fold strategy in order to block the DOJ from reviewing the documents: arguing that “the former president” has broad authority to decide what is and isn’t declassified, and that under the Presidential Records Act the materials belong with either Trump, as his personal property, or with the National Archives — but not with the DOJ.
It's been previously reported that the former president was privately demanding that his lawyers recover the documents. This, along with the back and forth between Trump’s legal team and the DOJ also contradict public statements from Trump that the department had planted evidence against him and lost documents.
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It tells me that you ignore what we say regarding Trump because it doesn't fit your agenda. Find where I said Biden is doing a great job and post it on Getbig. I have stated that I agree with some of Biden's policies. I have never said he is doing a great job, not because he isn't but because it is too soon for me to know this.
I do not need to explain why I don't like Trump to you or anyone else. I have repeatedly said that I never liked him. I think he is a jerk, a grifter and basically an ass. I always have... long before he ran for office and moved into the Whitehouse.
Whether Trump needs proof beyond his own statements remains be decided by the legal system, not by his base.
Of course, he disputes that. His version of what happens is rarely consistent with what history tells us happens. He is at odds with anything which doesn't go his way.
It seems odd but whatever dress the First Lady wears to the inauguration is traditionally donated to the Smithsonian. A First Lady can wear a gifted or donated designer item if it's officially made government property and given to the National Archives after its wear for historical preservation. The Constitution (Article I, Section 9) prohibits anyone in the US Government from receiving a personal gift from a foreign head of state without the consent of Congress. The Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act of 1966 and further legislation passed in 1977 allow gifts to be retained if they meet certain requirements. Foreign official gifts over this “minimal value” are considered gifts to the people of the United States, which the recipient must purchase from GSA, at fair market value, to retain them. I have no idea what the minimal value of her items of clothing are, but she has expensive taste. One skirt she wore to an occasion cost almost $10,000.
I think the main complaint the Trumps have is that Melanie's closets were riffled through by the FBI in the search. Supposedly she's disposed of those clothes and is in the process of replacing them. Considering what she's believed to spend on clothes, that could run into the millions. If it's her or Donald's money it should be no one's concern what she spends now that she is a private citizen. Personally, I have never witnessed or been involved in an FBI or other law agency raid so I don't know if they are as portrayed in the media, which seems brutal.
Barron is a minor so the FBI searching his room seems wrong. But who is to say there wouldn't be government documents stashed there?
As I mentioned, I believe 'raids' or the execution of search warrants can be overzealous and most definitely disruptive and unpleasant. Unless the security cameras were turned off or the contents destroyed, there should be a visual record of the conduct of the FBI at Mar-a-lago. It would be interesting to see exactly what went on that day. Unfortunately, it might be considered an invasion of privacy if someone other than the Trumps were to make them public.
In fairness, the Trumps wouldn't be the only folks to take items which did not belong to them when they vacated the Whitehouse. The Clintons returned more than $28,000 worth of items, which, they said, they thought were personal gifts given to them and not to the White House. Supposedly they received a total of almost $200,000 in gifts. Whether that is true or not, who knows.
Nancy Reagan was another First Lady with expensive taste for which she was at time criticized. Like other Presidents' wives, Mrs. Reagan donated her inaugural ball gown to the Smithsonian Institution.
Jackie Kennedy was another First Lady with expensive designer tastes. If I remember correctly, she was called out by some for 'restoring’ the Whitehouse interior design at great expense to taxpayers. Her inaugural gown is also in the Smithsonian.
So sending 30 FBI agents to search Melanie's closet seems wrong, but also ok.
Sending 30 FBI agents to search Barron Trump's rooms seems wrong, but also ok. That's pathetic. You people are absolutely ends justifies the means when it comes to Trump. Who cares about the law or individual liberty. As long as it hurts orange man, it's good.
So sending 30 FBI agents to search Melanie's closet seems wrong, but also ok.
Sending 30 FBI agents to search Barron Trump's rooms seems wrong, but also ok. That's pathetic. You people are absolutely ends justifies the means when it comes to Trump. Who cares about the law or individual liberty. As long as it hurts orange man, it's good.
Exactly- They're a Bunch of Snivelling crybaby Fucktards
Very low or no existent Morals -
They see Fuck all wrong with the 30 Khunts going through Melanie's & Baron's Items
Goes to show what type of Lowlife Scumbags they are.
Agenda? I don’t ignore it, I read it and laugh at it because the left has had the same ole MO since Trump came down that escalator over 6 year ago and literally everything that’s been thrown at him has been debunked with zero evidence in each fake case. It’s not ignoring, it’s history
LIBTURD's GOING TO LIBTURD - - I WISH THEY'D All FUCK OFF & WHEN THEY'VE FUCKED OF GO FUCK OFF SOME MORE 😀 👍🏻
If he hadn't taken the documents in the first place, or had an ounce of credibility, this wouldn't have happened at all. ;D
But, but, Killary's laptop...
If he hadn't taken the documents in the first place, or had an ounce of credibility, this wouldn't have happened at all. ;D
Where do you think the documents the Clintons, Obama’s and Biden are?
i would imagine Biden's is prob in the white house and not a resort
i would imagine Biden's is prob in the white house and not a resort
It was her mail server, and its one of the biggest political crimes in history.
No need to ignore that just to push a Trump narrative. Both people can be criminals.
Biden's are likely in The Bin as he's drawn all over them with his crayons
Or Flushed down the Loo after wiping his arse with them thinking they're toilet paper.
If Biden does this, he learned it from Trump who supposedly flushed so many documents down the toilet it screwed up the plumbing a lot of the time.
It was her mail server, and its one of the biggest political crimes in history.
No need to ignore that just to push a Trump narrative. Both people can be criminals.
I have never heard this and John's old friends are a lot closer to the source than any of us here. Just sayin'...
Be well.
Where do you think the documents the Clintons, Obama’s and Biden are?
Sure they are🙄
Prove differently then retard.
The FBI Paid For Russian Disinformation To Frame Trump—And 7 Other Takeaways From Durham’s Latest Court Filing
Federalist ^ | BY: MARGOT CLEVELAND SEPTEMBER 14, 2022
Posted on 9/14/2022, 11:25:15 AM
Our federal government paid for Russian disinformation to frame the president of the United States for colluding with Russia.
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The FBI put a contributor to the Hillary Clinton campaign’s Donald Trump smear dossier on FBI payroll as a confidential human source after investigating Igor Danchenko for allegedly spying for the Russian government, revealed Special Counsel John Durham in a court filing unsealed by a Virginia federal court yesterday. The filing contains this bombshell and seven other significant details about the Democrat-led plot to use U.S. intelligence agencies to deny Americans the results of their choice for president in 2016.
The FBI made Danchenko a confidential human source, providing him and the FBI’s use of him “national security” cover, in March 2017 and terminated that designation in October 2020, according to the court filing unsealed on Sept. 13. Danchenko is the originator of the false claim trumpeted all over global media that Donald Trump told prostitutes to pee on beds the Obamas had slept in in a Russian hotel.
The FBI had previously targeted Danchenko, Christopher Steele’s primary source, as a possible Russian agent. But after discovering Danchenko’s identity as Steele’s Sub-Source No. 1, rather than investigate whether Danchenko had been feeding Steele Russian disinformation, the FBI paid Danchenko as a CHS.
Trial for Lying to the FBI to Take Down a President Danchenko faces trial next month on five counts of lying to the FBI related to his role as Steele’s primary sub-source. One count of the indictment concerned Danchenko’s denial during an FBI interview on June 15, 2017, of having spoken with “PR Executive-1” about any material contained in the Steele dossier. “PR Executive-1” has since been identified as the Clinton and Democratic National Committee-connected Charles Dolan, Jr. Also according to the special counsel’s office, Danchenko fed Steele at least two false claims about Trump that originated in part from Dolan.
The four other counts of the indictment concerned Danchenko’s allegedly false claims that he had spoken with a source whom he believed was the then-president of the Russian-American Chamber of Commerce, Sergei Millian. Danchenko repeated that assertion during several different FBI interviews.
Danchenko’s trial begins next month, but two weeks ago, as part of the pre-trial process, the government filed a “Motion in Limine,” which seeks a ruling from the court on the admissibility of various evidence. While originally filed under seal, the court ordered the docket entry unsealed on Tuesday, making public more details about the case against the Russian national.
Here’s an overview of what we learned yesterday.
Witness: Danchenko Sought to Broker Putin’s Purchase of Classified Intel While it has previously been reported that Danchenko was a subject of an FBI counterintelligence investigation from 2009 to 2011, the special counsel’s motion revealed more specifics. Specifically, the prosecution explained that “in late 2008, while the defendant was employed by a prominent think tank in Washington, D.C., the defendant engaged two fellow employees about whether one of the employees might be willing or able in the future to provide classified information in exchange for money.”
“According to one employee,” the court filing continued, Danchenko thought the employee “might be in a position to enter the incoming Obama administration and have access to classified information.” Danchenko allegedly then told the employee “he had access to people who would be willing to pay money in exchange for classified information.”
The think-tank employee relayed the information to a government contact, who passed it on to the FBI. The FBI then initiated a “preliminary investigation” into Danchenko but converted it to a “full investigation” after learning Danchenko “had been identified as an associate of two FBI counterintelligence subjects” and “had previous contact with the Russian Embassy and known Russian intelligence officers.” Durham also noted that Danchenko “had also informed one Russian intelligence officer that he had interest in entering the Russian diplomatic service.”
The special counsel further revealed the FBI closed its investigation in 2010 after incorrectly concluding Danchenko had left the country.
In its motion in limine, Durham’s team argues this evidence is important to its case because it will establish that Danchenko’s lies to the FBI were “material.” Specifically, the FBI argues that had Danchenko truthfully told the FBI that he had discussed some of the content in the dossier with Dolan, the FBI might have interviewed Dolan or obtained Dolan’s emails.
That line of inquiry would have revealed the possibility that Danchenko was a Russian asset, the special counsel’s motion argues, noting that “Dolan, on two separate occasions, stated in emails dated June 10, 2016, and January 13, 2017, that he believed the defendant was ‘former FSB’ and a Russian ‘agent.’”
Had the FBI learned from Dolan that Danchenko was connected to the Russian intelligence services, “this naturally would have (or should have) caused investigators to revisit the prior counterintelligence investigation,” Durham argues, and “raise[d] the prospect that the defendant might have in fact been under the control or guidance of the Russian intelligence services.”
While this revelation is spicy, Danchenko’s attorneys will quickly dispatch this argument by pointing out that if the FBI’s own counterintelligence investigation into Danchenko that included the details noted above didn’t “raise the prospect” that Danchenko was “under the control or guidance of the Russian intelligence services,” surely Dolan’s beliefs would not alter the trajectory of the investigation.
Further, because this evidence consists of “character” or “bad acts” evidence, even if it helps the government build its materiality argument, the court will likely rule it inadmissible as “unfairly prejudicial” to Danchenko, meaning that it may cause a jury to wrongly convict Danchenko because of his past conduct, not because of his current alleged crime.
The FBI Paid for Russian Disinformation to Target a U.S. President A second shocker from the Sept. 13 court filing concerned Danchenko’s hiring as a paid CHS.
“In March 2017, the FBI signed the defendant up as a paid confidential human source of the FBI,” the special counsel revealed in the motion. It was not until October 2020 that “the FBI terminated its source relationship with” Danchenko.
Simply put: Our federal government paid for Russian disinformation to frame the president of the United States for colluding with Russia.
The FBI did this knowing that Danchenko “was associate of two FBI counterintelligence subjects”; “had previous contact with the Russian Embassy and known Russian intelligence officers”; “had also informed one Russian intelligence officer that he had interest in entering the Russian diplomatic service”; and, according to a think-tank employee, suggested he had contacts willing to purchase classified information.
Also, the FBI and Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team continued to use Danchenko as a paid CHS even knowing his stories were fabrications. In fact, Mueller’s team was so focused on getting Trump, it completely ignored whether the Steele dossier included Russian disinformation.
Hillary Paid for Russian Disinformation Too Not only did the FBI pay for Russian disinformation, so did Clinton, and she did so to interfere in the 2016 election. The public already knew from Durham’s (failed) prosecution of Clinton campaign attorney Michael Sussmann that the campaign paid Fusion GPS for opposition research. Fusion in turn hired Steele to dig up dirt on Trump.
That trial also revealed that Clinton personally approved pushing a smaller aspect of the Russia-collusion hoax, namely the Alfa-Bank secret communications hoax.
From yesterday’s filing we now know the primary sub-source for the Steele dossier paid for by Clinton was not merely a Russian national who fabricated the “intel,” but also a suspected Russian agent. Tuesday’s motion also highlighted the fact that longtime Clinton backer “Dolan maintained a relationship with several high-ranking Russian government officials who appear in the Steele Reports.”
So, for all her vapors over Trump’s connections with Russia and his supposed collusion with Russia to interfere in the election, the evidence shows Clinton holds that dishonor.
Lies, Damn Lies, and Sources Durham’s motion also revealed what appears to be the “tradecraft” of the spooks for hire, in the form of a February 24, 2016 email Danchenko sent his former boss, Cenk Sidar. Sidar, who ran the business intelligence firm Sidar Globak, asked Danchenko to review a report he had prepared.
After reviewing the draft, Danchenko emailed Sidar recommendations on how to improve the report, including the following suggestion: “Emphasize sources. Make them bold or CAPITALISED. The more sources the better. If you lack them, use oneself as a source (‘Istanbul-Washington-based businessman’ or whatever) to save the situation and make it look a bit better.”
The government seeks to admit this email to show that Danchenko followed a similar or “common plan” when working for Steele by creating sources “to save the situation,” such as what the prosecution maintains Danchenko did with Millian. This argument holds merit, and the trial court accordingly will likely allow Durham’s team to tell the jury about the email.
The FBI’s ‘Investigation’ Makes Maxwell Smart Look Like Jack Ryan While corruption may be a better explanation than incompetence, either way the special counsel’s brief leaves the FBI looking like fools. First, the bureau closed an investigation on a suspected Russian asset after wrongly thinking Danchenko had left the country. Then the FBI paid that suspected Russian agent to serve as a confidential human source, with Danchenko then telling agents a litany of lies, including ones that should have been obvious.
For example, as the motion highlights, Danchenko claimed to agents that Millian might be the source for the “pee-tape” info. But those allegations appeared in Steele’s report dated June 20, 2016, and Danchenko “repeatedly informed the FBI that the first and only time he allegedly communicated with Millian was late July 2016.”
“Put bluntly,” the special counsel wrote, “these facts demonstrate that the defendant could not keep his lies straight, and that the defendant engaged in a concerted effort to deceive the FBI about the sourcing (or lack thereof) of the Steele Reports.” Unless they were corrupt, this indicates the FBI agents investigating Trump were a bunch of incompetent boobs.
The special counsel’s team further exposed the incompetence (or corruption) of the FBI when it introduced the public to Bemd Kuhlen, a German citizen who served as the general manager of the Ritz-Carlton Moscow in June 2016, when the pee-tape tale was purportedly sourced. The Steele dossier described the source as “a senior (western) member of staff at the hotel.”
According to Durham, Kuhlen is prepared to testify at Danchenko’s trial that at the time he was the only “western” member of management at the hotel. Kuhlen will also testify that he never heard any story resembling Steele’s reporting until it became public and never discussed those claims with Danchenko.
If six years after the fact prosecutors could locate and question Kuhlen, the Crossfire Hurricane team could have done the same for Steele’s reporting, quickly disproving the dossier. If they wanted to, that is.
Steele Was Duped—That’s Our Story and We’re Sticking to It Yesterday’s motion revealed another unsettling fact: Prosecutors appear poised to continue with the company storyline that Steele and in turn the FBI were duped. In its motion, the government notes that Danchenko “informed Steele that he met in person with Sergei Millian on two or three occasions,” and that Danchenko “subsequently informed the FBI that he had not in fact met with Millian on any occasion.”
So, how does the special counsel address this discrepancy? Danchenko “further stated to the FBI that Steele incorrectly believed the defendant had met in-person with Millian” and that “Danchenko had not corrected Steele in that misimpression.” It was all just a big misunderstanding, folks, until Danchenko lied to the FBI.
This short section of the motion shows Durham does not intend to expose the FBI’s complicity at Danchenko’s trial. While Durham may not want to put the FBI on trial, Danchenko has made clear that he intends to. Unless the special counsel’s team acknowledges the FBI’s role in the Russia collusion hoax, Danchenko will likely score the second acquittal.
Star Witness Says, ‘No, Thanks’ To Testifying Four of the five counts against Danchenko concern Danchenko’s allegedly false statements to the FBI about a telephone conversation Danchenko claimed he had with an individual he thought was Millian. Under these circumstances, Millian would seem to be a star witness for Durham. But in the motion in limine, the special counsel revealed that Millian refuses to testify because of “concerns for his and his family’s safety (who reside abroad)” and because “he does not trust the FBI and fears being arrested if he returns to the United States.”
While “the Government has repeatedly informed Millian that it will work to ensure his security during his time in the United States, as it does with all witnesses,” Millian remains firm in his refusal. And who can blame him? Even if Durham can provide physical security for Millian, Durham doesn’t run the Department of Justice. As the recent raid on Trump’s home shows, the deep state will go to great lengths to get its enemies.
After establishing that it used its best efforts to arrange for Millian to testify at Danchenko’s trial, the government argues that because he is “unavailable,” as that term is legally understood, three emails Millian wrote to a friend are admissible, even if they are hearsay. Those emails show that a mutual acquaintance attempted to connect Millian and Danchenko and that Millian later figured out Danchenko was Steele’s source who invented the story of the phone call.
The government presents a persuasive argument that these emails should be admitted at trial, and the court will likely agree, meaning Millian’s prudent absence from the trial is unlikely to prompt an acquittal.
Strange Cyprus Things A final takeaway from yesterday’s filing stems from the special counsel’s mention of Cyprus.
“On June 10, 2016, Dolan, while in Cyprus meeting with Olga Galkina (another source for the defendant), emailed a U.S.-based acquaintance regarding efforts to assist the defendant in obtaining a U.S. visa,” the motion says. It quotes the email: “Monday night I fly to Moscow and will meet with a Russian guy who is working with me on a couple of projects. He also works for a group of former MI 6 guys in London who do intelligence for business …. [H]e owes me as his Visa is being held up and I am having a word with the Ambassador.”
The special counsel’s office included these details to establish that Danchenko had lied to the FBI about facts beyond those contained in the indictment. This helps Durham’s case by showing Danchenko’s allegedly false statements were not mere mistakes. The reference to Cyprus, however, also raises an entirely new set of questions.
In addition to Dolan’s presence in Cyprus on June 10, 2016, where he met with another of Danchenko’s sources, we have a June 1, 2016 email to President Obama’s undersecretary for State Victoria Nuland noting that “Kathleen [Kavalec] is recommending [she] look at the first 10 days of July for a Cyprus trip.” Nuland made the trip on July 12, 2016.
On July 1, 2016, Steele emailed the DOJ’s Bruce Ohr, noting that Steele was traveling to Cyprus with his family on holiday from July 9 to 16, 2016.
Nuland’s presence in Cyprus at the same time as Steele seems a tad too coincidental to ignore. After all, Nuland, who “served as Kavalec’s boss at the bureau of European and Eurasian affairs, was the government official who approved an FBI agent in Rome meeting Steele in early July 2016.” Steele would later also meet with Kavalec in D.C. in October 2016 about his Trump reporting. Jonathan Winer, who knew Steele since 2009 and reportedly met with Steele in the Summer of 2016, appears to have arranged the Steele-Kavalec meeting.
The overlapping players and timeframe demand answers. Did Steele meet with Nuland in Cyprus? If so, was Steele alerted to Nuland’s travel plans? What did the duo discuss? Did Steele or Nuland meet with Dolan or the Cyprus sub-source?
While Cyprus may well be a guy, the FBI launched a full investigation into Trump’s presidential campaign on less.
It’s extremely unlikely that Danchenko’s trial will answer any of these Cyprus questions. But future filings and the anticipated week-plus trial may fill in some of the other Spygate blanks.
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Margot Cleveland is The Federalist's senior legal correspondent. She is also a contributor to National Review Online, the Washington Examiner, Aleteia, and Townhall.com, and has been published in the Wall Street Journal and USA Today. Cleveland is a lawyer and a graduate of the Notre Dame Law School, where she earned the Hoynes Prize—the law school’s highest honor. She later served for nearly 25 years as a permanent law clerk for a federal appellate judge on the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals. Cleveland is a former full-time university faculty member and now teaches as an adjunct from time to time. As a stay-at-home homeschooling mom of a young son with cystic fibrosis, Cleveland frequently writes on cultural issues related to parenting and special-needs children. Cleveland is on Twitter at @ProfMJCleveland. The views expressed here are those of Cleveland in her private capacity.
This thread is about the Mara Lardo raid. Keep up.
I was waiting for you to say that…it has everything to do with it, dipshit
Everyday you simply make it a goal to remind us that you are retarded. Just like this.
How’s that FBI planted evidence coming along?
Has anything happened with this yet?Another dead end bullshit story for the media to pump on air 24/7 to continue to tarnish Trumps name to make it more difficult for him to run in 2024. The media has turned this guy into some sort of martyr. How people cannot see this is beyond me.
If Biden does this, he learned it from Trump who supposedly flushed so many documents down the toilet it screwed up the plumbing a lot of the time.it's remarkable that the white house still use toilet paper, why are americans obsessed with wiping peanut butter into a carpet? a bidet is 200 on amazon and it comes with a dryer
If Biden does this, he learned it from Trump who supposedly flushed so many documents down the toilet it screwed up the plumbing a lot of the time.
Trump says he declassified EVERY official document found at Mar-a-Lago and claims charging him with a crime would 'tear this country apart'
Trump told Hugh Hewitt on his radio show he did no wrong and the Department of Justice would have absolutely no reason to indict him
'There is no reason that they can be other than if they are just sick and deranged, which is always possible,' he said
The former president warned of unrest if he were to be indicted: 'The people would not stand for it'
By MORGAN PHILLIPS, POLITICS REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 15 September 2022
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11216389/Trump-refuses-say-intentionally-took-government-records-Mar-Lago.html
Another dead end bullshit story for the media to pump on air 24/7 to continue to tarnish Trumps name to make it more difficult for him to run in 2024. The media has turned this guy into some sort of martyr. How people cannot see this is beyond me.
Where Did He learn His Kiddie Sniffing & Paedophilia from ??
Clinton ? Obuma ? Epstien ?
Martyrs are respected by their followers, becoming symbols of exceptional leadership and heroism in the face of difficult circumstances.Thanks to your evil liberal objective, Trump will become a martyr and will be influential long after his death.
Coming along great. And every day you make it a goal to make a complete ass if yourself. Just like before Trump was elected in 2016 then you disappeared
Seems like yet another call to arms.
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I’ve never disappeared. Once again you are making shit up to cope with reality.
How hard do you retard?
Mmmmm….yes, you did and it’s the reason why you don’t make yourself known on here with the exception of a board name and a gimmick or two
Come on Coach , We know his Fragile mind Needed his Counsellor & Quiet Room,
Like so Many LibTurd's Did.
Yup. Here's a photo of LNM, feeling terrified and violated to his very core, he is coiled up in the typical liberal way: The Fecal Position.
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Mmmmm….yes, you did and it’s the reason why you don’t make yourself known on here with the exception of a board name and a gimmick or two
I don’t have a gimmick. Nor any previous accounts. This has been confirmed and explained to you by both chaos and OMR. It must be painful to realize that more than one person believes you are a retard.
You are not a smart person by any means. I can understand why something so simple can be confusing.
Yup. Here's a photo of LNM, feeling terrified and violated to his very core, he is coiled up in the typical liberal way: The Fecal Position.LoserSomeMore would never post a pic or vid of himself, he would be embarrassed beyond recovery here. ;)
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LoserSomeMore would never post a pic or vid of himself, he would be embarrassed beyond recovery here. ;)
pretty rich coming from a "loser in life" who gets their only sexual gratification from being humiliated numerous times a day.
That picture has better ankles than you.And I have better ankles than you.
None of the three crimes they are investigating actually require the documents to be classified or not. :D
-Not sure what this has to do with Trump's implied threats of violence. Please explain.
And I have better ankles than you.
-Not sure what this has to do with Trump's implied threats of violence. Please explain.
The last call to arms was over the lie of stolen elections.
The current call to arms is over the lie that he had declassified the documents that lead to the raid.
They can’t seem to have a call to arms over truth or factual things.
Remember when all the libs claimed 2016 was stolen? . . . . . . .
I remember. Still not convinced it wasn't stolen or manipulated. Afterall Hilary did win the popular vote. Imagine the hullabaloo if the reverse had happened and Trump won the popular vote and still lost the electoral vote.
Read this today in the New York Times, 'When asked, six Trump-backed Republican nominees for governor and the Senate in midterm battlegrounds would not commit to accepting this year’s election results, and another six Republicans ignored or declined to answer a question about embracing the November outcome. All of them, along with many other G.O.P. candidates, have pre-emptively cast doubt on how their states count votes.' Is this a sore losers epidemic?
So its legit when libs question an election but not conservatives? Got it.
Is that what you took from my post? IMO, it is legit for anyone who cares to, to question election results. What is not okay for folks to do, is to have a civil war over it.
Some folks take what is posted here far too seriously and worse, they read into other's posts things that were not said. So, I posted an excerpt from the New York Times. I did not say if I agreed with it or not. Some stuff is just informational. Not everything has to be argued.
The ones talking about civil war on TV are liberals mainly.
This might be true. I don't watch much TV and very rarely the news beyond local news. Last night I watched an episode of Gardener's World on Britbox. No political views were discussed.
Watch Cobra Kai Season 5 was excellent for the same reason.
That's great! No doubt many Getbiggers are not who they seem to be when posting here. By this I mean that I hope they aren't. There is an overabundance of negativity on these boards in my opinion.
That's great! No doubt many Getbiggers are not who they seem to be when posting here. By this I mean that I hope they aren't. There is an overabundance of negativity on these boards in my opinion.Don't like it get lost you whiney c ocksucking flamer!
My stalker seems to have gotten spelling lessons. So cute.
Did you pay your dues this month to my fan club?
This might be true. I don't watch much TV and very rarely the news beyond local news. Last night I watched an episode of Gardener's World on Britbox. No political views were discussed.
I remember. Still not convinced it wasn't stolen or manipulated. Afterall Hilary did win the popular vote. Imagine the hullabaloo if the reverse had happened and Trump won the popular vote and still lost the electoral vote.Did she though? At least that's what your tv told you right? Same tv that said Bitem got 81 million votes. ::)
of course you think its cute, you vile PedoCuck...
Did she though? At least that's what your tv told you right? Same tv that said Bitem got 81 million votes. ::)
Yes, she did. As did Biden. Did my TV tell me that? No, all the Republican secretaries of state that ratified the results told me that.
Biden got no more than 50…maybe 55 mil votes if that.
I am not going down the rabbit hole with you Coach. I like and respect you too much to sully our internet friendship. ;D
On the other hand, if Chaos is reading this, he can fuck off. Just kidding Chaos.
Yes, she did. As did Biden. Did my TV tell me that? No, all the Republican secretaries of state that ratified the results told me that.
Biden got no more than 50…maybe 55 mil votes if that.
Seems like yet another call to arms.
I remember. Still not convinced it wasn't stolen or manipulated. Afterall Hilary did win the popular vote. Imagine the hullabaloo if the reverse had happened and Trump won the popular vote and still lost the electoral vote.
None of the three crimes they are investigating actually require the documents to be classified or not. :D
I remember. Still not convinced it wasn't stolen or manipulated. Afterall Hilary did win the popular vote. Imagine the hullabaloo if the reverse had happened and Trump won the popular vote and still lost the electoral vote.
History
The recounts
The EC
The AG
The SC
and more all say differently. But that’s because they don’t live in LaLa Land like you.
HistoryYet there’s still audits still going on proving them wrong
The recounts
The EC
The AG
The SC
and more all say differently. But that’s because they don’t live in LaLa Land like you.
Doesn't matter. The POTUS has the sole power and discretion to determine what are personal and/or presidential records.
This is almost as stupid as the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory.
Yet there’s still audits still going on proving them wrong
Like Cyber Ninjas? Please show us the evidence of this being proved wrong. Hahahhaahaha
It does matter. If it didn’t, then Trumpys attorneys would not be fighting to avoid stating whether the documents found were declassified or not.
They are making two arguments: (1) he declassififed the documents, which he had the absolute authority to do and (2) he had the absolute authority to determine whether the documents were personal and/or presidential records. Both are correct. So no, it doesn't matter.
I have countless times
Did she though? At least that's what your tv told you right? Same tv that said Bitem got 81 million votes. ::)
Tell me, how many votes do you think Biden got? And now show us all proof that you are right. Inuendo is not proof, I say this just in case that is what you planned to use as proof. BTW the majority of American folks both voters and non-voters believe that Biden got 81 million votes or if they don't know the exact number, at least the majority.
It is interesting how a Getbig moderator (you), who is unknown to all but a couple of people in the U.S., thinks he knows more than millions of other people and he should be trusted to be more accurate and honest then they are.
Put up or shut up time.
Everybody wants to claim Trumpy declassified these documents but no one wants to say so under oath. Hahahahaha
I just finished reading a couple of articles regarding this very issue. Trump's legal team recommended Judge Dearie as the special master. Trump appointed Judge Cannon agreed as did the Department of Justice folks who are involved in this case. Now it appears unlike some of Trump's picks, Judge Dearie may be ethical and honest. How very interesting!
Which of his picks are unethical and dishonest?
Yes, she did. As did Biden. Did my TV tell me that? No, all the Republican secretaries of state that ratified the results told me that.Who told them that? Ratified results from a manipulated electronic voting machine abused by people with no ID? The whole system needs an overhaul by the people, for the people.
Who told them that? Ratified results from a manipulated electronic voting machine abused by people with no ID? The whole system needs an overhaul by the people, for the people.
Ok. To play on your level. The Russians manipulated all the voting machines in 2016 and sent illegal English speaking Russians to cast votes for Trump. If 2016 was free and fair, Hillary would have had 87 million votes. ::)Cool, was that the same Russians that manipulated the machines to get rid of Bernie so Obama could win?
Cool, was that the same Russians that manipulated the machines to get rid of Bernie so Obama could win?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall Bernie being in the picture for POTUS in either 2008 or 2012. But to answer your question hypotheically, yes it must have been the same Russians.Of course he wasn't, the Russians knocked him out in the primaries so they could put their puppet Obama in there. ;)
But the docs are declassified. Trumpy said so. ::)
It’s a very simple. If they are declassified then just say so. ;D
What’s the big deal? ;D
Of course he wasn't, the Russians knocked him out in the primaries so they could put their puppet Obama in there. ;)
Is he still publicly saying they were declassified? Are his attorneys saying they were to a judge in a court of law? You and I know the answer to this and I think we agree that they are staying mum or talking around the subject. Also, whether they were or not is probably a moot point, since classified or declassified they aren't Trump's documents to keep in his residence which is currently just luxury hotel where he has his living quarters, and with who knows who coming and going.
They aren’t saying anything. Hahahaha. Obviously they don’t have much faith in their client telling the truth. The judge wants them to say under oath that Trumpy declassified the documents but they won’t do it.
Judge Dearie holding their feet to the fire. ;) The old 'delay and it will go away' tactic doesn't seem to be working this time... about time!
Everyone that got tired of his shit. Or doesn’t buy into the Big Lie. Well according to Trumpy they are or just “losers”.
Pence
Barr
Sessions
Cohen
Flynn
Etc etc etc
BW: Okay. Did you ever consider resigning from your post because of something you were asked to do?
AG BARR: No. I considered resigning from my post because it was such a pain in the ass. Trump’s tweeting and so forth was such a pain in the ass because it gave the left an opportunity to argue that I was doing things because Trump wanted them done that way. I kept on telling him not to tweet about the Department of Justice. But he never told me to do anything that I would resign over.
Cohen wasn't an appointee and he is the only dishonest person on your list. But I doubt Prime was referring to any of them. Sounds like he was making some veiled reference to the judge.
For anyone quoting Barr on either side, this is worth a read to see where the man really stands:
https://www.commonsense.news/p/bill-barr-calls-bullsht?triedSigningIn=true
One snippet stands out, as he was able to separate reality from all the bullshit that came with the former President:
I remember. Still not convinced it wasn't stolen or manipulated. Afterall Hilary did win the popular vote. Imagine the hullabaloo if the reverse had happened and Trump won the popular vote and still lost the electoral vote.
Appointed/hired it’s all the same really in Trumpworld.
Yeah who cares about the facts. Just spew partisan nonsense. Doesn't matter if it's factual. So long as it hurts orange man, it's all good.
Cohen wasn't an appointee and he is the only dishonest person on your list. But I doubt Prime was referring to any of them. Sounds like he was making some veiled reference to the judge.
Not sure how you came to that conclusion, but you are dead wrong. Although the judge is surely getting a lot of flack regarding her decision, I am not going to question why she ruled the way she did.
I just finished reading a couple of articles regarding this very issue. Trump's legal team recommended Judge Dearie as the special master. Trump appointed Judge Cannon agreed as did the Department of Justice folks who are involved in this case. Now it appears unlike some of Trump's picks, Judge Dearie may be ethical and honest. How very interesting!
So nowwwww....... :D Trumpy wants to throw out a new lie that he didn't even have to say the documents were declassified, he only had to think it.
This gets better and better.
Telepathic declassification. And Biden is slipping. ::)Mandatory retirement age for politicians sounds pretty good doesn't it? I mean, you wouldn't be able to ogle Aunt Nancys jugs any more but we also wouldn't have to deal with out of touch senile old coots running our country.
Mandatory retirement age for politicians sounds pretty good doesn't it? I mean, you wouldn't be able to ogle Aunt Nancys jugs any more but we also wouldn't have to deal with out of touch senile old coots running our country.
Mandatory retirement age for politicians sounds pretty good doesn't it? I mean, you wouldn't be able to ogle Aunt Nancys jugs any more but we also wouldn't have to deal with out of touch senile old coots running our country.
why do we keep electing geriatrics
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/29/politics/congress-age/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/29/politics/congress-age/index.html)
https://twitter.com/atx_patriot/status/1573407695696441344?s=46&t=fjh_t-jLN7KlDMOYllr_kA
Declassified three years ago
Hope the documents aren't date stamped... He could add that he declassified them "just by thinking about it" But then how does one think about declassifying a document that didn't exist 3 years ago? Trump the great psychic déclassifier.
The left says they’re right and the right says they’re right. Who has the history of being “right”?
Hope the documents aren't date stamped... He could add that he declassified them "just by thinking about it" But then how does one think about declassifying a document that didn't exist 3 years ago? Trump the great psychic déclassifier.
The left says they’re right and the right says they’re right. Who has the history of being “right”?
Right about what?
Relevance?
Hahahahahahah. The $3 Million lawyer that Trumpy hired to lead the defense has now been benched.
Bet he didn't get paid a dime. You know, the art of the steal.
Almost everything…
Bet he didn't get paid a dime. You know, the art of the steal.That's what I'm talking about!!
Americanthinker.com? Lmfao @ the irony!
Sure this wasn't featured in the Enquirer weeks ago? :D
It was Bidens' business partner. ::)
Is this like Obama's gay boyfriend type of thing again?
you know literally nothing about this do you?
you know literally nothing about this do you?
I know that neither Joe or Hunter was part of the raid on Trumpy's home, nor are they part of his legal team that is running in circles trying to come up with a defense that is somewhat credible while their clients spouts off lies and other bullshit. I know that this is what this thread is about.
Do you know that? You have nothing to say about the thread topic but want to talk about something else all together? Why not make a new thread for that?
Ok you want the direct source here you and Lurker go. Own it. Here is the business partner in his own words.You could slap them in the face with your dick and they would deny it ever happened.
I know that neither Joe or Hunter was part of the raid on Trumpy's home, nor are they part of his legal team that is running in circles trying to come up with a defense that is somewhat credible while their clients spouts off lies and other bullshit. I know that this is what this thread is about.
Do you know that? You have nothing to say about the thread topic but want to talk about something else all together? Why not make a new thread for that?
This thread isn’t about Biden. You can’t address the thread topic so you talk about irrelevant shit instead. Par for course as usual for you.
Everyone is in awe of your tism once again.
This thread isn’t about Biden. You can’t address the thread topic so you talk about irrelevant shit instead. Par for course as usual for you.
Everyone is in awe of your tism once again.
This thread isn’t about Biden. You can’t address the thread topic so you talk about irrelevant shit instead. Par for course as usual for you.
Everyone is in awe of your tism once again.
Well, I told you what we could do if you truly feel that way. You just keep avoiding it.
Yes it is because that old pedophile ok'd it.
Listen to you lie and avoid facts? We already do that on here every day.
In stunning interview with Tucker Carlson last night, Hunter Biden's Business Partner Tony Bobulinski explained how the FBI fixed the 2020 election
American Thinker ^ | 10/05/2022 | Thomas Lifson
Posted on 10/5/2022, 12:07:46 PM by SeekAndFind
Most readers already know that Tony Bobulinski was the business partner of Hunter Biden and his uncle, Jim Biden, the president’s brother, as they attempted to put together deals with foreign actors. That partnership broke up, and Bobulinski has become a whistleblower. But his efforts to interest the FBI in multiple Biden family felonies, including against him, have come to naught.
Last night, in a second sit down interview with Tucker Carlson, Bobulinski laid out stunning details on how the FBI deep sixed any public revelations, much less indictments, based on what Bobulinski says are thousands of pages of proof, including emails, text messages, recorded phone calls, and actual business documents. Despite having possession of abundant evidence, the FBI sat on the investigation through the 2020 election, thereby depriving the public of information that almost certainly would have swayed enough votes to change the outcome and re-elect Donald Trump.
One key figure is Timothy Thibault, who was made the FBI’s point man on the information brought by Bobulinski, who never followed up. Miranda Devine of the New York Post broke this story a month ago:
Timothy Thibault, the FBI agent alleged to have interfered with an investigation into Hunter Biden, was assigned by the Washington Field Office as “point man” to manage whistleblower Tony Bobulinski, the first son’s former business partner, before the 2020 election — but he suppressed his damning revelations, sources say.
Bobulinski spent over five hours secretly being interviewed by the FBI on Oct. 23, 2020, about his inside knowledge of then-presidential candidate Joe Biden’s involvement in his son’s business deals with China.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Interesting but what does this have to do with Trump's government document hoarding and the FBI grab?
It was Bidens' business partner. ::)
Interesting but what does this have to do with Trump's government document hoarding and the FBI grab?
Tony Bobulinski been yakking it up with Carlson about this for awhile now. Did you miss the October 28, 2020 interview? https://archive.org/details/FOXNEWSW_20201029_040000_Tucker_Carlson_Tonight/start/60/end/120
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2904684809856447
Many believe Trump had docs relative to the frauds committed by the Biden Crime Family.
No I saw it then. Again - this was all in the news but denied by liberal idiots and BidenFAIL and now forced to be acknowledged as truthful. You should be ashamed of yourself for how blindly ignorant and partisan you are.
Are suggesting all liberals need do to get their candidate elected is deny some dirt on their candidate's son?
Because I question the circumstances of an issue, it makes me blindly ignorant and partisan? If I wanted to be blindly ignorant of just wanted to ignore some issue, I would hardly ask questions which result in continuing the conversation rather than hoping it magically goes away.
Says the guy who yesterday thought the laptop was fake and knew nothing about UNTIL yesterday Lololololol
Many believe Trump had docs relative to the frauds committed by the Biden Crime Family.
Please show me where I said this. ::)
You can't. Because you are just lying again. Which is what you always do when you got nothing else to say.
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Again you are ignorant and uninformed. The issue was Hunter being the bag man for The Big Guy getting millions from China and ukraine deals.
Please show me where I said this. ::)
You can't. Because you are just lying again. Which is what you always do when you got nothing else to say.
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Coach and Soul Crusher constantly change the topic of conversations which aren't going their way when they either don't have a relevant reply, they forgot what the subject was, they think others won't notice their little game, or they don't know what they are talking about. My guess is that it is a combination of all those reasons. But then, I tend to give people more credit than they are due. Could also be that they are high and spacy from smoking too much weed. ;)
Exactly. They have nothing to say, but yet feel compelled to say something no matter how irrelevant or off topic it is.
Weird. This is like having a conversation with a hard of hearing person who thinks you said something else. But it's in writing. ::)
sad little PedoCuck crying... ::)
^If Teutonic Knight had an even more retarded twin, this is him^
You can't tell it's the same person?
Sort of what I was getting at.
Sort of what I was getting at.
It was easy to spot a while back. Same idiot mistakes that Tainted Knot and Iron Cvnt always made.
It's kind of amusing watching the uneducated get desperate and seek attention.
You can't tell it's the same person?
Exactly. They have nothing to say, but yet feel compelled to say something no matter how irrelevant or off topic it is.
Weird. This is like having a conversation with a hard of hearing person who thinks you said something else. But it's in writing. ::)
It was easy to spot a while back. Same idiot mistakes that Tainted Knot and Iron Cvnt always made.
It's kind of amusing watching the uneducated get desperate and seek attention.
Doubtful. Iron Cross and TK are one in the same and English is clearly not his first language. The other shit is retard and/or gimmick.
The Gov is like a 'One Note Samba'. They keep posting the same word, 'PedoCuck'. Maybe they think they are being clever. They're not.
Come on guys.... I'm going to take this personal. Why does someone like Vince get all the witty original stalkers with funny replies and I wind up with these insipid Honey Boo Boo type asshats for stalkers? Is asking for someone with a GED and original content too much?
Come on guys.... I'm going to take this personal. Why does someone like Vince get all the witty original stalkers with funny replies and I wind up with these insipid Honey Boo Boo type asshats for stalkers? Is asking for someone with a GED and original content too much?
???
I just think that any stalker of mine should have an IQ over their age. That's all. :D
Come on guys.... I'm going to take this personal. Why does someone like Vince get all the witty original stalkers with funny replies and I wind up with these insipid Honey Boo Boo type asshats for stalkers? Is asking for someone with a GED and original content too much?
If it gets worse, I'm going to have to troll you with one of my gimmicks.Use your SuperstarBillyGraham gimmick! :D
If it gets worse, I'm going to have to troll you with one of my gimmicks.
And here you have it…
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cjgr-mfLYvC/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
And there YOU have it... Mark Levin is a failed attorney and political lacky who hosts a right wing radio talk show.Don't forget he's also richer than you.
Did this story die?Of course not, media is focusing on this to avoid biden gaffes and kuntmala making a complete fool of herself in interviews.
So has Trump been charged with a crime yet?
It has been two months.
And there YOU have it... Mark Levin is a failed attorney and political lacky who hosts a right wing radio talk show.
Hahahahahahahahaha…..oh boy lol
So has Trump been charged with a crime yet?Nope, it's still just another media distraction to keep the stupid fuck democrats occupied so they don't have to face the disaster this horrible administration is.
It has been two months.
Don't forget he's also richer than you.
Nope, it's still just another media distraction to keep the stupid fuck democrats occupied so they don't have to face the disaster this horrible administration is.
Because keeping dummycrats hooked onto Trumps balls helps them not see the stupidity their party is commiting.Not me. Those are some mighty stinky balls, sitting amidst all that blubber, not to forget the rancid farts that emit from that junk food fanatic's putrid asshole.
So you really think there is no legitimate or tangible cause for this investigation? Is that what you are saying? Just want to make sure before I call you stupid. (Probably still will though)You're stupid enough for the both of us, you got this, Tom!
Not me. Those are some mighty stinky balls, sitting amidst all that blubber, not to forget the rancid farts that emit from that junk food fanatic's putrid asshole.Sounds like you've spent some time around the stinky balls of sweaty old, fat men.
Nope, it's still just another media distraction to keep the stupid fuck democrats occupied so they don't have to face the disaster this horrible administration is.
You're stupid enough for the both of us, you got this, Tom!
Sounds like you've spent some time around the stinky balls of sweaty old, fat men.
Oh so you don't want to commit to an actual stance on this. Why am I not surprised? Stupid little Trumpturd.Pretty clear what my stance is, Tom. It's a waste of taxpayers dollars, time and effort in an attempt to distract the pleebs like you from recognizing how bad this administration is doing.
TDfS!! TDfS!! TDfS!! TDfS!! <--- It ain't working like it used to.
Not everything is either or.Really? We could start with oil prices, go on to the illegal immigration situation, bounce over to inflation, talk about the softest stance on crime possible (unless you're on the opposite political spectrum), speaking of that we could talk about the use of the alphabet agencies to attack political opponents, his America last policies, we could go on for days but what would be the point? You don't want to recognize or admit that your side is wrong or fucked up in any way because you have a side, instead of being an American.
Care to elaborate on why you think the current administration is horrible? So far, it may not be the best this country ever had but it isn't the worst. These last couple of years could have been an extension of the horrible Trump administration and that would have been far worse... or another term in office might have finally gotten Trump's fat ass in a sling that he couldn't wiggle his way out of.
Talking about gas prices (even though we weren't), I gassed up at Costco today. I needed approximate 8 gallons and paid $5.06 per gallon which is more than it was last month when I filled the tank. Not only that, Gasbuddy got it wrong. According to them, the price for regular there was $5.20 a gallon. Gasbuddy failure. ::)
Your stance is nothing more than TDfS!!!! We already know that. ::)You spend far more time thinking about Trump and his orange hue than I do, Tom. ;)
Facts about the orange man make you cry. Can't sleep at night. TDfS.. gotta say something, but have nothing to say really. Deflect and spin... still no win.
You spend far more time thinking about Trump and his orange hue than I do, Tom. ;)
Did you just admit to being stupid? Or maybe Lurker is so smart that even being in his shadow makes you a little bit smart. If that's the case, when did you plan to begin showing some?
Pretty clear what my stance is, Tom. It's a waste of taxpayers dollars, time and effort in an attempt to distract the pleebs like you from recognizing how bad this administration is doing.
Really? We could start with oil prices, go on to the illegal immigration situation, bounce over to inflation, talk about the softest stance on crime possible (unless you're on the opposite political spectrum), speaking of that we could talk about the use of the alphabet agencies to attack political opponents, his America last policies, we could go on for days but what would be the point? You don't want to recognize or admit that your side is wrong or fucked up in any way because you have a side, instead of being an American.
Yes, let's start with oil prices. Without question they are out of sight. They are out of sight everywhere, not just in the U.S. Does this mean Biden is Emperor of the world? Bouncing, bouncing like Trump's balls, again is inflation unique to the U.S.?
TBH, have not looked at the most recent crime stats, so I cannot at this point comment on them.
Ever consider that the 'alphabet agencies' are doing what they are supposed to do which is investigating and prosecuting criminals at every level regardless of who they are, how well they are connected or if they once held a political office? Of course, you have not because you are committed to defending every nut case on the right, no matter how obscenely criminal their activities.
I have a 'side' which means I am not an American? What a laugh. My side is all American, not sure what yours is though.
You could go on for days? Great! Be my guest.
Hey Chaos, this discussion has been...well...interestin g. My apologies, but it is time for me to fix my dinner and spend an hour or so in front of the boob tube, watching anything that has nothing to do with current events. You know, having a life outside of Getbig. Try it. You might like it.
If Chaos were to pull down his trousers right now, you'd see Primes hand print right across his arse!Come on now son, you're smarter than that.
Yes, let's start with oil prices. Without question they are out of sight. They are out of sight everywhere, not just in the U.S. Does this mean Biden is Emperor of the world? Bouncing, bouncing like Trump's balls, again is inflation unique to the U.S.?
TBH, have not looked at the most recent crime stats, so I cannot at this point comment on them.
Ever consider that the 'alphabet agencies' are doing what they are supposed to do which is investigating and prosecuting criminals at every level regardless of who they are, how well they are connected or if they once held a political office? Of course, you have not because you are committed to defending every nut case on the right, no matter how obscenely criminal their activities.
I have a 'side' which means I am not an American? What a laugh. My side is all American, not sure what yours is though.
You could go on for days? Great! Be my guest.
Hey Chaos, this discussion has been...well...interestin g. My apologies, but it is time for me to fix my dinner and spend an hour or so in front of the boob tube, watching anything that has nothing to do with current events. You know, having a life outside of Getbig. Try it. You might like it.
Soooo.... back to the topic at hand. ;D
Apparently, there is security footage of an employee moving boxes from the storage room AFTER Trumpy was given that subpoena. Not that this is surprising. Trumpy gets the subpoena, so now he knows that eventually the government will come after it's documents. So if he wants to keep any of them, he'd better hide them somewhere else. Boy that was a smart move huh? Trumpy was notified in May to hand over these classified documents, but he refused to comply and yet he made a really big deal that he was raided? This was 21 months after he left the White House. And the lies he has told about the whole thing.... hahahahahaa.
Don't worry though, his little cult members will be along to deny, deflect, distraction, or lie about it in his defense. (Even though his own attorneys won't even touch the lies he told about it in their defense motions. :D )
It's going to be super hilarious to watch the shit show when his other properties get raided. ;D
Opinion: Utter proof the FBI framed Trump and shielded Hunter
NY Post ^ | October 12, 2022 | By Andrew C. McCarthy
Posted on 10/13/2022, 9:33:37
Igor Danchenko is on trial, but so is the FBI.
That is the theme of Russiagate special counsel John Durham’s prosecution of Danchenko, heading into its third day of trial in Alexandria, Va., federal court.
Danchenko is charged with five counts of lying to the FBI about two of his sources for what became the infamous “Steele dossier” — a compilation of faux intelligence reports, mainly authored by former British spy Christopher Steele, that portrayed the GOP’s then-presidential candidate, Donald Trump, as a clandestine agent of Russia.
It remains to be seen whether Durham can prove these charges: The allegation related to Dolan is not crystal clear (because Danchenko did make a vague reference to discussions with him), and Millian, who is overseas and beyond US subpoena power, has refused to testify.
What is not in doubt, though, is that the trial is highlighting the FBI’s shocking malfeasance in the Trump-Russia “collusion” probe, which it codenamed “Crossfire Hurricane.”
The first witness in the case was FBI supervisory intelligence analyst Brian Auten, of whom Durham himself conducted the prosecution’s questioning. Auten conceded the FBI had offered Steele $1 million if he could prove his sensational allegations that Trump was in cahoots with the regime of Vladimir Putin and that the Kremlin was positioned to blackmail the then-candidate because it supposedly possessed a video recording of Trump engaging in sexual hijinks.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Trumpy loves to talk and talk and talk and talk....
.. except under oath. He's too chicken shit to appear. :D
pathetic little bitch talking like a 4 year old child, you are dismissed pedo.
Trumpy loves to talk and talk and talk and talk....Huge pot meet kettle in this post.
.. except under oath. He's too chicken shit to appear. :D
And there YOU have it... Mark Levin is a failed attorney and political lacky who hosts a right wing radio talk show.
You're asking a lot from a liberal. :)
You should be a little more inquisitive and not regurgitate stuff you see on the internet from political hacks. You'll be a lot smarter and better informed if you do.
Huge pot meet kettle in this post.
Do you think you could go 24 hours without trying to defend Trumpy through deflection, denial, distraction and the usual TDfS methods?
Do you think you could go 24 hours without trying to defend Trumpy through deflection, denial, distraction and the usual TDfS methods?Making fun of you for being Trump obsessed is not a defense of Trump, it's simply me making fun of you for being an idiot, Tom. But then you're too stupid to see that, must be why you vote democrat. ;)
Making fun of you for being Trump obsessed is not a defense of Trump, it's simply me making fun of you for being an idiot, Tom. But then you're too stupid to see that, must be why you vote democrat. ;)
Post something about Biden. We already know Trump owns you and the left.
No it’s why you are a Trumpturd. This thread is about Trumpy and the seized docs. Anything you want to post about that? Or just want to post about those people who are posting about it?Prove it, Tom.
Sucks to be a Trumpy supporter it seems.
Prove it, Tom..
.Proof you're a liar, worse than Biden, Tom.
You have already proven it page after page of this thread.
This last reply is just another example of that proof.
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You have already proven it page after page of this thread.
This last reply is just another example of that proof.
Proof you're a liar, worse than Biden, Tom.
pathetic little bitch talking like a 4 year old child, you are dismissed pedo.
No surprise to see you being humiliated yet again, now piss off you tiny Low IQ Pedo
Do you think you could go 24 hours without thinking or posting about Trump?Trump Derangement Syndrome is a chronic condition that appears to have no cure.
Really starting to get annoying, repeats and repeats the same nonsense over and 3 times over.
Buzz... Buzz... Buzz...
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He gets his buzz word for the day and then makes the same post on multiple threads. This is why I should start requiring my stalkers to possess a GED at the minimum. The level of projection is creepy.
perhaps you and lurker could practice such abstinence for the same 24 hours (chaos-lurking day) ?When do I mention Trump outside of a response to his TDS?
When do I mention Trump outside of a responseto hisof my TDfS?
when did I mention tds?
when did I mention tds?So you can't answer the question either. Are you a lurker gimmick?
TDS is his fall back excuse when he has nothing else to post (nearly always) or is unable to refute anything that was posted (always).TDS is what you suffer from since you spend every waking minute thinking about another man.
So you can't answer the question either. Are you a lurker gimmick?
TDS is what you suffer from since you spend every waking minute thinking about another man.
What's it called when you spend every waking minute on an internet forum defending, deflecting, distracting and denying for another man (and then claim you don't)?We know you're not talking about me cause you can't link any of my posts defending any man. You on the other hand, post non-stop about the same guy no matter how menial the story. What's that called? Oh yeah, a crush, right, Tom?
TDfS!!!! That's what.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is a chronic condition that appears to have no cure.
So has Trump been charged with a crime yet?
He gets his buzz word for the day and then makes the same post on multiple threads. This is why I should start requiring my stalkers to possess a GED at the minimum. The level of projection is creepy.
We know you're not talking about me cause you can't link any of my posts defending any man. You on the other hand, post non-stop about the same guy no matter how menial the story. What's that called? Oh yeah, a crush, right, Tom?
Most people with at least a GED would not waste there time stalking someone on an internet forum unless they were totally off their rocker and that is always one possibility.
Most people with at least a GED would not waste there time stalking someone on an internet forum unless they were totally off their rocker and that is always one possibility.I agree, Lurker should get some help for his constant posts about a former President. Quite the obsessive character he has.
Can't post on topic. Can't stop the TDfS. Can't articulate a reply of original content. Can't post in a way that doesn't come across the net like the way the teacher from Charlie Brown sounds....Great self-diagnosis. :)
But just has to say something. If that isn't the definition of triggered I don't know what is.
The excuses are expanding faster than his waistline.
Great self-diagnosis. :)
Can't post on topic. Can't stop the TDfS. Can't articulate a reply of original content. Can't post in a way that doesn't come across the net like the way the teacher from Charlie Brown sounds....
But just has to say something. If that isn't the definition of triggered I don't know what is.
The excuses are expanding faster than his waistline.
So has Trump been charged with a crime yet?
They are going to nail him for having overdue library books any day now.
Absolutely not. Everyone knows he can barely read. His own advisors and appointees have gone on record saying in daily briefing they had to resort to using charts, buzz words, Enquire like headings, and pictures.
Maybe it's the Old Spice I wear that triggers his projections.
Can you provide a link to that or did someone hear that from an "unknown source"
Ever spritz the balls? ;D
Maybe it's the Old Spice I wear that triggers his projections.
I agree, Lurker should get some help for his constant posts about a former President. Quite the obsessive character he has.
Trumpy said in his speech, ‘We won with the poorly educated. I love the poorly educated.”
And the poorly educated love their TDfS posts. Post a fact about Trumpy and they are instantly triggered.
Not yet. Not sure how that makes any difference. If and when Trump is charged with a crime, you can be sure they have him dead to rights.
Makes no difference to you? You don't want Trump to be charged with a crime?What he means, like most brain dead liberals, is that as long as the media has convicted Trump of something, it doesn't matter if the courts do. Liberals are so easily manipulated, they are pathetic.
Makes no difference to you? You don't want Trump to be charged with a crime?
Did President Trump get fined for his overdue library books yet?
He hasn't finished coloring them yet.
And here's a post that is actually on topic to what this thread is about. :)Fixed
The special master is playing no favorites.
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Democrat witch hunt against former President continues....
is coloring books one of your "tools" when grooming ??:D
is coloring books one of your "tools" when grooming ??
What are all these comments about? Is Lurker a pedo? That username doesn't help hide or deny it.
What are all these comments about? Is Lurker a pedo? That username doesn't help hide or deny it.
My stalker is just pissed because my fan club doesn't allow anyone under 18. In age or IQ.
Did President Trump get fined for his overdue library books yet?
What a silly question. Trump can't read. Why would he have overdue library books. Or, did you mean picture books? ;D
What are all these comments about? Is Lurker a pedo? That username doesn't help hide or deny it.
LurkerNoMore isn't one, but 'The Gov' likely is. He's obsessed with 'pedo-cucks' and pedos in general. He's used the pedo insult hundreds of times. Not going to count them but the number is close to 153 which when he started posting on Getbig again last April. He is also obsessed with LurkerNoMore.
What a silly question. Trump can't read. Why would he have overdue library books. Or, did you mean picture books? ;DNot trying to be mean here, but shouldn't you be spending your final years playing with the grandkids instead of looking for acceptance for your fucked up liberal views from some random weirdo that calls himself a Lurker on getbig?
Not trying to be mean here, but shouldn't you be spending your final years playing with the grandkids instead of looking for acceptance for your fucked up liberal views from some random weirdo that calls himself a Lurker on getbig?
As opposed to watching some fat cankled conehead claiming to be "chaos" constantly whine about facts being posted about the lying fraudulent orange turd whose ass houses his head nearly every waking hour?I'm begging for your attention, yet you responded to my post towards Prime. I'm here for you, little guy. You need a manly shoulder to cry on? I know I could never fill up the space in your heart dedicated to all things Trump but if I can distract you for just a few minutes maybe you'll have that moment of clarity and realize what a fucking idiot you come across as. ;D
You are begging for my attention almost as bad as The Cuk.
I'm begging for your attention, yet you responded to my post towards Prime. I'm here for you, little guy. You need a manly shoulder to cry on? I know I could never fill up the space in your heart dedicated to all things Trump but if I can distract you for just a few minutes maybe you'll have that moment of clarity and realize what a fucking idiot you come across as. ;D
Not trying to be mean here, but shouldn't you be spending your final years playing with the grandkids instead of looking for acceptance for your fucked up liberal views from some random weirdo that calls himself a Lurker on getbig?
As long as it's your shoulder and not those moobs you have.How's the witch hunt, Tom?
How's the witch hunt, Tom?
Coming along fine.Triggered would be more of a word used to describe someone the incessantly posts dozens of times a day about the same guy, day after day, post after post, living in the past, trying to avoid dealing with the current abortion of an administration, Tom. ;)
Got you triggered, so it must be doing something right.
Triggered would be more of a word used to describe someone the incessantly posts dozens of times a day about the same guy, day after day, post after post, living in the past, trying to avoid dealing with the current abortion of an administration, Tom. ;)
Not trying to be mean here, but shouldn't you be spending your final years playing with the grandkids instead of looking for acceptance for your fucked up liberal views from some random weirdo that calls himself a Lurker on getbig?
Coming along fine.
Got you triggered, so it must be doing something right.
Not really, just showing what a retard and coward (along with others on here) you are. Fuck son, you can’t even provide a link. Admittedly, it’s getting pretty close that the fake “insurrection” should be the least of the leftists worries.
It's been two months? And already Trumpy is on the fourth or fifth lie about it that even his defense attorney won't touch or include in their motions. ::)
Fuck retard, you can't even use Google and find the information yourself. Multiple sources reporting the same thing. Take your pick or find evidence to refute it. Which you can't. You never can. Because evidence and facts are useless to Fragile X geriatrics like yourself. It's Mother Nature's way of helping you cope with a reality you can't handle.
in hindsight, have you any idea how unhealthy that question is ?In hindsight, I realize that you stalk getbig while logged off, then log in to make some remark, then log right back off to hide again. Very gimmick-like.
You’re so confident his lying with multiple sources reporting you can’t even provide links to your bullshit
In hindsight, I realize that you stalk getbig while logged off, then log in to make some remark, then log right back off to hide again. Very gimmick-like.
You are so stupid you can't even google any part of the article and prove it wrong. ::)
No. But if you need to believe this then go ahead.You're so vain, you probably think that post was about you.
Obviously that extra space in that conehead wasn't filled with gray matter.
You're so vain, you probably think that post was about you.
Well done, brother! ;DYou sang it didn't you? ;D
You're so vain, you probably think that post was about you.
You sang it didn't you? ;D
You sang it didn't you? ;D
You're so vain, you probably think that post was about you.
No vanity in it at all. Just facts.
Double standards.Of course nothing to see here.
DOJ reviewing potentially classified docs at Biden center
Special counsel to the president Richard Sauber said “a small number of documents with classified markings” were discovered as Biden's personal attorneys were clearing out the offices of the Penn Biden Center, where the president kept an office after he left the vice presidency in 2017 until shortly before he launched his 2020 presidential campaign in 2019. The documents were found on Nov. 2, 2022, in a “locked closet” in the office, Sauber said.
Irrespective of the Justice Department review, the revelation that Biden potentially mishandled classified or presidential records could prove to be a political headache for the president, who called Trump's decision to keep hundreds of such records at his private club in Florida “irresponsible."
Trump weighed in Monday on his social media site, asking, “When is the FBI going to raid the many homes of Joe Biden, perhaps even the White House?”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/doj-reviewing-potentially-classified-docs-225623683.html
It’s all over the news now
Double standards.
DOJ reviewing potentially classified docs at Biden center
Special counsel to the president Richard Sauber said “a small number of documents with classified markings” were discovered as Biden's personal attorneys were clearing out the offices of the Penn Biden Center, where the president kept an office after he left the vice presidency in 2017 until shortly before he launched his 2020 presidential campaign in 2019. The documents were found on Nov. 2, 2022, in a “locked closet” in the office, Sauber said.
Irrespective of the Justice Department review, the revelation that Biden potentially mishandled classified or presidential records could prove to be a political headache for the president, who called Trump's decision to keep hundreds of such records at his private club in Florida “irresponsible."
Trump weighed in Monday on his social media site, asking, “When is the FBI going to raid the many homes of Joe Biden, perhaps even the White House?”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/doj-reviewing-potentially-classified-docs-225623683.html
MSM actually reporting it !!
I watched a comprehensive news story on CNN tonight about it tonight. It would be pretty hard for MSM to ignore this issue.
I watched a comprehensive news story on CNN tonight about it tonight. It would be pretty hard for MSM to ignore this issue.
He doesn't get CNN in the shit hole country in which he resides. Gas has become too expensive for him to even ride his moped to the nearest internet cafe.
And their take on what if anything should happen is ?
Former FBI assistant director sees 'glaring disparity' in DOJ's 'kid gloves' treatment of Biden
A former FBI assistant director is blasting the bureau for its "glaring disparity" in how the agency has approached the situations surrounding President Biden and former President Donald Trump's handling of classified materials.
"You know, it's kid-gloves, it's going about it in a very nice way, very genteel," Swecker said, noting that the Justice Department is seemingly allowing Biden allies to decide what is looked through and what isn't, as well as what is taken from the properties and what isn't.
Under pressure from Republicans, Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed a special counsel Thursday to investigate the classified materials, which Biden claims were "inadvertently misplaced." Garland tapped Robert Hur, a former U.S. attorney, to handle the investigation.
Asked why the FBI is leaving the search of Biden's Delaware residence for additional classified materials to White House aides, Swecker said there should have already "been an open investigation" and that it reminds him of how the FBI treated former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who was able to avoid charges for her use of a private email server during her tenure.
"I think it's bad for the FBI to go using search warrants to do that sorta thing," he added. "They should subpoena and they should do this in a way that is short of conducting an outright raid. But that's not what they did with Trump – they just raided his Mar-a-Lago residence.… If it's good for Trump, it should have been good for Biden, as well. There is a disparity of how this very identical set of circumstances were handled."
Swecker also said he believes the documents found at Mar-a-Lago were in a much safer spot than those found in Biden's Delaware home, which served as his residence for the time between his role as vice president and president.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-fbi-assistant-director-sees-130026730.html
Former FBI assistant director sees 'glaring disparity' in DOJ's 'kid gloves' treatment of Biden
A former FBI assistant director is blasting the bureau for its "glaring disparity" in how the agency has approached the situations surrounding President Biden and former President Donald Trump's handling of classified materials.
"You know, it's kid-gloves, it's going about it in a very nice way, very genteel," Swecker said, noting that the Justice Department is seemingly allowing Biden allies to decide what is looked through and what isn't, as well as what is taken from the properties and what isn't.
Under pressure from Republicans, Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed a special counsel Thursday to investigate the classified materials, which Biden claims were "inadvertently misplaced." Garland tapped Robert Hur, a former U.S. attorney, to handle the investigation.
Asked why the FBI is leaving the search of Biden's Delaware residence for additional classified materials to White House aides, Swecker said there should have already "been an open investigation" and that it reminds him of how the FBI treated former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who was able to avoid charges for her use of a private email server during her tenure.
"I think it's bad for the FBI to go using search warrants to do that sorta thing," he added. "They should subpoena and they should do this in a way that is short of conducting an outright raid. But that's not what they did with Trump – they just raided his Mar-a-Lago residence.… If it's good for Trump, it should have been good for Biden, as well. There is a disparity of how this very identical set of circumstances were handled."
Swecker also said he believes the documents found at Mar-a-Lago were in a much safer spot than those found in Biden's Delaware home, which served as his residence for the time between his role as vice president and president.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-fbi-assistant-director-sees-130026730.html
I think this is gold for Trump supporters. But for everyone else, They know Swecker is a regular on Fox and came out against the raid on Trumps Mara Largo property. He is to say the least biased. Even the most staunch Trump supporter excluding a couple on here will admit the handling of the discovery between Bidens team and Trumps team is totally different and therefore different means are used. If you can't see that, you are likely in the "excluding a couple on here" category.
Since when does the media have any say in what should happen? Their job is to report what has already happened.
Absolute double standard. Bunch of fascist hypocrites.The complete disassociation and detachment these delusional liberals create in their minds and put on public display when their hypocrisy becomes to glaring obvious to ignore is astounding to me.
The complete disassociation and detachment these delusional liberals create in their minds and put on public display when their hypocrisy becomes to glaring obvious to ignore is astounding to me.
Their job is to report whatever the Democrats tell them to report
Enjoy your delusions while they last.
6 years at least of snide attacks with "delusional" attached to anyone who disagrees with your views.. have you not matured at all? are you capable of actually conversing as an adult? You're not alone and I understand the sad unfortunate "pride" of this forum is to be jerks to people you don't know.. but what if we all started having civil discussions and leave the immature attacks to the immature on here? I'm more than willing to go first.
Hey at least he isn't using the throwaway "TDS" excuse as much anymore for all things irrelevant.
Enjoy your delusions while they last.
6 years at least of snide attacks with "delusional" attached to anyone who disagrees with your views.. have you not matured at all? are you capable of actually conversing as an adult? You're not alone and I understand the sad unfortunate "pride" of this forum is to be jerks to people you don't know.. but what if we all started having civil discussions and leave the immature attacks to the immature on here? I'm more than willing to go first.6 years of your arrogance and denial of any wrongdoing by people like you and of course, it's always the other side that's in the wrong. Maybe if you were capable of recognizing and acknowledging the similarities of the two situations, you would be more credible in some sort of debate. However, from what I can see, you are still a party line follower trying to deflect any blame from your guy and living in this delusional world where your views and opinions are the only ones that matter or are valid. You guys infected with TDS have let it ruin your perception of reality, if you ever had one.
6 years of your arrogance and denial of any wrongdoing by people like you and of course, it's always the other side that's in the wrong. Maybe if you were capable of recognizing and acknowledging the similarities of the two situations, you would be more credible in some sort of debate. However, from what I can see, you are still a party line follower trying to deflect any blame from your guy and living in this delusional world where your views and opinions are the only ones that matter or are valid. You guys infected with TDS have let it ruin your perception of reality, if you ever had one.
Chaos, I have been critical of both parties. I have said more than once I am not a fan of Bidens. I just think he was less dangerous than Trump.
I have not made excuses for Biden having classified documents he was not authorized to possess.
It's almost like you have skimmed my posts of the last 6 yeas and gleaned an inaccurate picture
I've voted for Republican and Democratic presidents.
And as far as living in a world where I believe my views are the only ones that matter is a bit over dramatical. Depending on the subject, I usually feel comfortable with my opinion but hold that I may be wrong. An example of where that wouldn't be the case is if someone said they believe the election was stolen and Trump won. While my nature is to consider thier opinion as potentially valid, the overwhelming evidence is pretty clear that they are wrong. If I'm being unreasonable for thinking that.... then I guess I am unreasonable.
Hey at least he isn't using the throwaway "TDS" excuse as much anymore for all things irrelevant.
6 years of your arrogance and denial of any wrongdoing by people like you and of course, it's always the other side that's in the wrong. Maybe if you were capable of recognizing and acknowledging the similarities of the two situations, you would be more credible in some sort of debate. However, from what I can see, you are still a party line follower trying to deflect any blame from your guy and living in this delusional world where your views and opinions are the only ones that matter or are valid. You guys infected with TDS have let it ruin your perception of reality, if you ever had one.
Chaos, I have been critical of both parties. I have said more than once I am not a fan of Bidens. I just think he was less dangerous than Trump.
I have not made excuses for Biden having classified documents he was not authorized to possess.
It's almost like you have skimmed my posts of the last 6 yeas and gleaned an inaccurate picture
I've voted for Republican and Democratic presidents.
And as far as living in a world where I believe my views are the only ones that matter is a bit over dramatical. Depending on the subject, I usually feel comfortable with my opinion but hold that I may be wrong. An example of where that wouldn't be the case is if someone said they believe the election was stolen and Trump won. While my nature is to consider thier opinion as potentially valid, the overwhelming evidence is pretty clear that they are wrong. If I'm being unreasonable for thinking that.... then I guess I am unreasonable.
6 years of your arrogance and denial of any wrongdoing by people like you and of course, it's always the other side that's in the wrong. Maybe if you were capable of recognizing and acknowledging the similarities of the two situations, you would be more credible in some sort of debate. However, from what I can see, you are still a party line follower trying to deflect any blame from your guy and living in this delusional world where your views and opinions are the only ones that matter or are valid. You guys infected with TDS have let it ruin your perception of reality, if you ever had one.
Chaos, I have been critical of both parties. I have said more than once I am not a fan of Bidens. I just think he was less dangerous than Trump.You've consistently and constantly supported leftist liberal views and ideas. You may think you have been critical of both parties but your neutrality is to be questioned.
I have not made excuses for Biden having classified documents he was not authorized to possess.
It's almost like you have skimmed my posts of the last 6 yeas and gleaned an inaccurate picture
I've voted for Republican and Democratic presidents.
And as far as living in a world where I believe my views are the only ones that matter is a bit over dramatical. Depending on the subject, I usually feel comfortable with my opinion but hold that I may be wrong. An example of where that wouldn't be the case is if someone said they believe the election was stolen and Trump won. While my nature is to consider thier opinion as potentially valid, the overwhelming evidence is pretty clear that they are wrong. If I'm being unreasonable for thinking that.... then I guess I am unreasonable.
::)Nobody likes you, you are small and weak and depend on the government to tell you how to live your life. Pathetic.
Well that didn't last long.
Nobody likes you, you are small and weak and depend on the government to tell you how to live your life. Pathetic.
Nobody likes you, you are small and weak and depend on the government to tell you how to live your life. Pathetic.
What is pathetic is feeling the urge to run showcase your TDfS every time a fact about the orange turd is posted. We get it... it triggers you. Let those tears of impotent rage out.... it will keep them from pooling in those cankles, waist and moobs.As we all understand that your TDS is a way for you to cope with this abortion of an administration that you voted for, right Tom?
As we all understand that your TDS is a way for you to cope with this abortion of an administration that you voted for, right Tom?
We all understand that your TDfS is a way for you to cope with your infatuation and frustration of the orange turd and him losing the election, right Fetter?Have you always been this obsessed with Trump or is this an addiction you picked up when he beat Killary? Have you considered trying therapy to learn to cope with the current abortion of an administration?
Nobody likes you, you are small and weak and depend on the government to tell you how to live your life. Pathetic.
Have you always been this obsessed with Trump or is this an addiction you picked up when he beat Killary? Have you considered trying therapy to learn to cope with the current abortion of an administration?
Have you always been this obsessed with Trump or is this an addiction you picked up when he beat Killary? Have you considered trying therapy to learn to cope with the current abortion of an administration?
So, in effect you are saying; Nobody loves him, everybody hates him, you think he should go eat worms. This seems a bit childish on your part - but carry on.
I am somebody and I like him. I don't see him as small and weak. Small weak people don’t stand up to ‘cone heads’, like you. Sorry, couldn’t resist posting that. Guess I can be a bit childish at times too. :-[
Our government whether local, state, or federal is responsible for passing laws, they do 'sort of' tell everyone how to live their lives. As if people need to be told to be law abiding. When someone breaks the law, many of them really think it is pathetic that government has this power over them. These are the people who rarely take responsibility for their own mistakes... so they blame someone else, like the government.
So, in effect you are saying; Nobody loves him, everybody hates him, you think he should go eat worms. This seems a bit childish on your part - but carry on.Seems a bit childish on your part.
I am somebody and I like him. I don't see him as small and weak. Small weak people don’t stand up to ‘cone heads’, like you. Sorry, couldn’t resist posting that. Guess I can be a bit childish at times too. :-[
Our government whether local, state, or federal is responsible for passing laws, they do 'sort of' tell everyone how to live their lives. As if people need to be told to be law abiding. When someone breaks the law, many of them really think it is pathetic that government has this power over them. These are the people who rarely take responsibility for their own mistakes... so they blame someone else, like the government.
-Butting in here. Your comment about therapy has me wondering, since you seem to be someone who is having difficulty coping with the current administration, have you considered counseling or seeing a therapist for this problem?Did you seek therapy after you cheated on your wife with another man ???
Have you always been this obsessed with defending Trumpy or is this an addiction you picked up whenever facts about him are posted? Have you considered trying therapy to learn to cope with facts about the orange turd being posted as opposed to his childless lies and baseless claims or does it interfere with you having your head up his ass?Point out all my posts defending Trump, Tom. Making fun of you for being an obsessed dipshit just isn't the same, deal with it, you small, weak, manlet. :-*
Point out all my posts defending Trump, Tom. Making fun of you for being an obsessed dipshit just isn't the same, deal with it, you small, weak, manlet. :-*
Here is a perfect example. A thread about factual events at Trumpys home and you are posting off topic replies any chance you get. Deflecting is the same as defending.
TDfS to the max Fetterbro.
Here is a perfect example. A thread about factual events at Trumpys home and you are posting off topic replies any chance you get. Deflecting is the same as defending.All of your threads are about Trump, maybe you should be relegated to one thread? That would really clean up the shitpost you bring to the politics board. That's a good idea....
TDfS to the max Fetterbro.
Deflection may be all some people have. It is also a piss-poor defense.You would know, it's all you've done since you denied your faggotry back in the 70's. ;)
All of your threads are about Trump, maybe you should be relegated to one thread? That would really clean up the shitpost you bring to the politics board. That's a good idea....
You would know, it's all you've done since you denied your faggotry back in the 70's. ;)
Not! Good try with the deflecting though.I'll bring this up at the next moderators meeting, your TDS is in everything you post, Tom.
Actually, it wasn't a good try. It was a piss poor attempt. Maybe try again. But since all your replies to any post on here is the usual TDfS, maybe you could make a sticky of your excuses and save yourself some typing?
I'll bring this up at the next moderators meeting, your TDS is in everything you post, Tom.
You would know, it's all you've done since you denied your faggotry back in the 70's. ;)
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FBI searched Biden home, found documents marked classified
Associated Press via Currently ^ | January 22, 2023 | Zeke Miller & Michael Balsamo
Posted on 1/21/2023, 8:10:54 PM by John W
The FBI searched President Joe Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware on Friday and located six additional documents containing classification markings and also took possession of some of his notes, the president’s lawyer said Saturday.
Bob Bauer, the president's personal lawyer, said the search of the entire premises lasted nearly 13 hours. The apparently classified documents spanned Biden's time in the Senate and the vice presidency, while the notes dated to his time as vice president. The level of classification, and whether they remained classified, was not immediately clear as the Justice Department reviews the records.
The search followed more than a week after Biden’s attorneys found six other classified documents in the president’s home library from his time as vice president, and nearly three months after lawyers found a small number of classified records at his former offices at the Penn Biden Center in Washington. It came a day after Biden maintained that “there’s no there there" on the document discoveries, which have become a political headache for the president and complicated the Justice Department's probe into former President Donald Trump's retention of classified documents and official records after he left office.
(Excerpt) Read more at currently.att.yahoo.com ...
No raid with CNN cameras in tow. Bunch of hypocrites.
There was no raid because none was needed. Unlike the situation with Trump's possession of classified documents wherein he repeatedly failed/refused to turn them over to the proper authorities. At one point, he even stated they belonged to him. You are comparing two very different situations and more recently three. Only one of which eventually required a court sanctioned warrant to search for them.
Yes they are very different. Biden's situation is much worse.
Yes they are very different. Biden's situation is much worse.
Yes they are very different. Biden's situation is much worse.
Is this your unbiased opinion? Do you have information that supports your opinion?
His biased opinion supports his unbiased opinion.
and your credibility just hit zero
So worse that he refused to give them back after a year of being instructed to.
So worse that the outside party who searched for the documents themselves, now are being demanded to be identified in court.
So worse that obviously the FBI planted them before he could declassify them with his mind even though they were just empty jackets that "looked cool".
::)
Is this your unbiased opinion? Do you have information that supports your opinion?
Years? You mean 18 months. As opposed to Biden having classified info for six to sixteen or years. Yeah great comparison there.
You don't know how long Trumpy actually had them. That is an estimated time frame. What we do know is that he refused to give them back or admit their existence until a search warrant was executed. And then he went into Trumpy-mode with full on lying about everything. The FBI planted them, they were not classified. He declassified them with his mind ::) ,the jackets were empty and he kept them because they looked cool...etc. Funny thing is I don't see Biden making those excuses.
If he conducted himself as Biden did, then his home would not have been searched.
We know exactly how long Trump had them from time he left office until the tyrannical raid on his home: 18 months. The time before he left office is irrelevant, because he had the authority to possess any classified document in the country as POTUS.
"Conducted himself as Biden did"?? lol Yeah if he would have improperly possessed classified documents in multiple unsecure locations, including his garage, for years, he would have been fine. Ok. Whatever.
You don't know the time frame, therefore it is irrelevant.
Tyrannical raid? Hardly. It was an approved search. Which could have been avoided if he had cooperated sooner. Like Biden did. ;D
So worse that he refused to give them back after a year of being instructed to.
So worse that the outside party who searched for the documents themselves, now are being demanded to be identified in court.
So worse that obviously the FBI planted them before he could declassify them with his mind even though they were just empty jackets that "looked cool".
::)
Years? You mean 18 months. As opposed to Biden having classified info for six to sixteen or years. Yeah great comparison there.
Yes we do. We know precisely when Trump left office.
Do you understand that as POTUS he had the right to possess any classified document?
FYI, 18 months is longer than 'a year' which is what Lurker posted.
The main difference between Biden having classified documents and Trump having them is we know the circumstances under which Trump acquired them and we don't know how, why or whether Biden even remember he had them. The comparable is that they both had documents they should not have had whether it was for 16 years of 18 months.
It seems like your 'bias' influenced your reading comprehension. Clearly, you read this the way you wanted to and not the way it was written. An example of a Freudian slip, perhaps?
Yes we do. We know precisely when Trump left office.
Do you understand that as POTUS he had the right to possess any classified document?
'Had' is the operative word. Neither Trump nor Pence still hold an official qualifying office. Their right to possess classified documents expire when the new administration was sworn in. It could be argued that presently, of the three, Biden is the only person with the authority to classify, declassify or possess these classified documents.
You may want to take the time to read the following information published by the National archives.
https://www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/cnsi-eo.html#four
The President Executive Order 13526
Classified National Security Information
December 29, 2009
Below are some relevant sections of the President Executive Order 13526
sec. 1.3. Classification Authority.
(a) The authority to classify information
originally may be exercised only by:
(1) the President and the Vice President;
(c) Delegation of original classification authority.
(2) ‘‘Top Secret’’ original classification authority may be delegated only by the President, the Vice President, or an agency head or official designated pursuant to paragraph (a)(2) of this section.
(3) ‘‘Secret’’ or ‘‘Confidential’’ original classification authority may be delegated only by the President, the Vice President, an agency head or official designated pursuant to paragraph (a)(2) of this section, or the senior agency official designated under section 5.4(d) of this order, provided that official has been delegated ‘‘Top Secret’’ original classification authority by the agency head.
Sec. 3.1. Authority for Declassification. (a) Information shall be declassified as soon as it no longer meets the standards for classification under this order.
(b) Information shall be declassified or downgraded by:
(1) the official who authorized the original classification, if that official is still serving in the same position and has original classification authority;
(Note: neither Trump, Biden or Pence were/are serving in the same position as they did when the documents were originally classified. Of the three men, Biden is currently the only person with the authority to classify or declassify government documents.)
Do you what day those documents actually arrived at his home? Were you there? Did you put them away? Then you don't know if they had been there from the end of 2019 or the end of 2016.
Do you understand why they searched his home? Was he POTUS then? ::)
If they arrived at his home between 2016 and 2019 then those periods of time are irrelevant, because he had the absolute right to possess any piece of classified intel in the country.
'Had' is the operative word. Neither Trump nor Pence still hold an official qualifying office. Their right to possess classified documents expire when the new administration was sworn in. It could be argued that presently, of the three, Biden is the only person with the authority to classify, declassify or possess these classified documents.
You may want to take the time to read the following information published by the National archives.
https://www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/cnsi-eo.html#four
The President Executive Order 13526
Classified National Security Information
December 29, 2009
Below are some relevant sections of the President Executive Order 13526
sec. 1.3. Classification Authority.
(a) The authority to classify information
originally may be exercised only by:
(1) the President and the Vice President;
(c) Delegation of original classification authority.
(2) ‘‘Top Secret’’ original classification authority may be delegated only by the President, the Vice President, or an agency head or official designated pursuant to paragraph (a)(2) of this section.
(3) ‘‘Secret’’ or ‘‘Confidential’’ original classification authority may be delegated only by the President, the Vice President, an agency head or official designated pursuant to paragraph (a)(2) of this section, or the senior agency official designated under section 5.4(d) of this order, provided that official has been delegated ‘‘Top Secret’’ original classification authority by the agency head.
Sec. 3.1. Authority for Declassification. (a) Information shall be declassified as soon as it no longer meets the standards for classification under this order.
(b) Information shall be declassified or downgraded by:
(1) the official who authorized the original classification, if that official is still serving in the same position and has original classification authority;
(Note: neither Trump, Biden or Pence were/are serving in the same position as they did when the documents were originally classified. Of the three men, Biden is currently the only person with the authority to classify or declassify government documents.)
The point is, you don't know when they arrived there. Could have been January 7th. YOU DON'T KNOW. Maybe some were already there. Maybe others wasn't. YOU DON'T KNOW.
You're not tracking the analysis here. Trump had the right to possess any classified document while POTUS, so it doesn't matter what he possessed or where he possessed while he was POTUS.
For people accusing him of unlawful possession of classified intel, that could only have happened after he was no longer POTUS.
Regarding declassification, you're also missing the point. Biden first came into possession of his documents while he was a senator and VP, not while he was POTUS. He no declassification authority.
If they arrived at his home between 2016 and 2019 then those periods of time are irrelevant, because he had the absolute right to possess any piece of classified intel in the country.
He was POTUS last August when they searched his home? If not, then he was in unlawful possession.
Let's assume they were taken there between 2016 thru 2019, they technically should have been turned over to the National Archives as soon as Biden took office. Practically, these documents likely end up mixed in with personal documents which are government property.
The big issue here is going to be Trump's refusal to relinquish them after leaving office. He should have played dumb and claimed he did not know he was in possession of them after his term of office.
Since it has been reported they were moved either inadvertently or intentionally when Trump vacated the White House, it follows that these documents were not at Mar-a-Largo prior to 2020. I don't believe it is reasonable to assume they were there prior to that time.
This is another nothing burger. On to the next abuse of civil liberties to try and target this man.
Unless the documents were declassified. He has an argument that the documents were declassified. Biden does not.
So I’m glad you apparently now understand that we do know precisely what the alleged period of unlawful possession is for Trump: from the moment he left office until the tyrannical raid by the FBI.
A former White House lawyer for former President Trump warned him last year that he could face legal consequences for holding on to presidential records, The New York Times reported on Monday.
Eric Herschmann told the former president in a late 2021 meeting that he could face investigations and legal repercussions if he did not return government materials, particularly classified documents, according to the Times. Herschmann was not working for or with Trump at the time, the newspaper noted.
The arguments presented here in defense of Trump are all wrong
It doesn't matter when the docs showed up at Mar a Lago (though I suspect all or at least a large majority arrived AFTER he was no longer POTUS) and it doesn't matter if they were declassified or not (and of course there is no evidence that they were declassified since that is a process that involves other groups and isn't just by the POTUS "thinking" about it)
None of that matters
The documents are GOVERNMENT PROPERTY and they don't belong to private citizen Trump
The government informed Trump they were missing and he failed to return all the documents and even after a subpoena was issued he continued to retain documents and LIED about it which is obstruction.
That's the bottom line. This is government property and he knowingly retained them and LIED about it.
That is why he's facing legal jeopardy. The obstruction and lying and failure to return docs that he's been informed don't belong to him is the issue.
He was also informed by his former attorney of the legal consequences of retaining documents that didn't belong to him, both classified and unclassified.
None of them belong to him
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3651609-former-white-house-lawyer-warned-trump-last-year-about-legal-risk-of-mar-a-lago-documents-report/
If he had just turned over all documents when first asked and fully cooperated we wouldn't even be talking about this today
Severe TDS…but I digress
https://nypost.com/2023/01/26/archives-asks-former-administrations-to-search-for-classified-docs-report/
I agree, you have severe TDS
I guess that is the reason you couldn't address or refute any of the facts in my post
Nope, I’m defending what’s right and what you don’t keep up with
and...you're wrong
Trump was illegally in possession of government property
He was informed about this, warned it was illegal and given ample time (more than anyone else would get) to return the documents
He refused, lied, obstructed
Those are all facts
Remember, this already played out in court with an incompetent Trump appointed judge Aileen Cannon allowing a special master and then an appeals court (with two Trump appointed judges) absolutely eviscerating so called "judge" Cannon.
Again, these are indisputable facts
If you're incapable of understanding or believing them then that's your problem
It wasn't a 'nothing burger' until classified documents started showing up at Biden and Pence's homes. Whether those discoveries are enough to get Trump off the hook, remains to be seen.This is what should concern people like you, instead of holding everyone equally responsible, you're willing to accept the "nothing burger" for Trump because Bitem and Pence got caught with the same shit. Until then, you were waving your pitchfork trying to crucify Trump. If you were really concerned about justice, you would be crying for Biden and Pences heads the same as you've been crying for Trumps. But you're not, because you're more concerned with protecting your guy rather than hold him accountable.
Severe TDS…but I digress
https://nypost.com/2023/01/26/archives-asks-former-administrations-to-search-for-classified-docs-report/
No Coach, it actually is a valid and solid post. Just an FYI, you posting TDS doesn't and has never invalidated an opposing view. That you and a few others continue to do that is amusing.
Now if you would like to address each point one by one that you disagree with, I'll be happy to read it... but we both know that aint gonna happen. Hard to do with only 5 minutes a day on GB
This is what should concern people like you, instead of holding everyone equally responsible, you're willing to accept the "nothing burger" for Trump because Bitem and Pence got caught with the same shit. Until then, you were waving your pitchfork trying to crucify Trump. If you were really concerned about justice, you would be crying for Biden and Pences heads the same as you've been crying for Trumps. But you're not, because you're more concerned with protecting your guy rather than hold him accountable.
Liberals = hypocrites.
Of course it’s valid….🙄
Oh boy 🙄
The National Archives was all over Trump, but their lips are sealed regarding Biden. Seems fair.
National Archives 'wasn’t allowed' to reveal Biden classified documents discovery
by Jerry Dunleavy, Justice Department Reporter
February 01, 2023
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonexaminer.com%2Fnews%2Fjustice%2Fnational-archives-not-allowed-reveal-biden-classified-documents-discovery
No Coach, it actually is a valid and solid post. Just an FYI, you posting TDS doesn't and has never invalidated an opposing view. That you and a few others continue to do that is amusing.
Now if you would like to address each point one by one that you disagree with, I'll be happy to read it... but we both know that aint gonna happen. Hard to do with only 5 minutes a day on GB
So has Trump been charged with a crime yet?He seriously must be the cleanest man alive, with all these claims and nothing sticks. And the Fed always usually get their person.
It's because they have nothing else to post, but have to post something. It's just an exercise in showcasing their mental health deficiencies.
He seriously must be the cleanest man alive, with all these claims and nothing sticks. And the Fed always usually get their person.
Go live with me. Bring Agnostic with you 🤷♂️
Go live with me. Bring Agnostic with you 🤷♂️
You can't debate or accept facts on here. You sure as shit can't do it live. Dumb ass.
So has Trump been charged with a crime yet?
Good point - I don't know as I've not read / heard anything
Was said he was going to be arrested today 🤔🤷🏼♂️
That was supposed to happen yesterday. Fat Albert backed out.
You two morons this is about a completely separate issue right? ::)
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
Well, look who got his panties in a wad because Trump hasn't been charged with a crime or arrested. :D
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"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Straw Man = LurkerNoMore = Wayne Tracker
He is an intolerant, racist, pervert, a liar and a coward, hiding behind multiple gimmick accounts.
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
Trumpy said he was getting arrested. Sounds like he is just lying again right?
But look who got his panties in a wad with the same redundant shit from a month ago. :D Not only did I own your tiny tit mind then but I have a delay owning it as well from today. Life is good. Except for foreign c unts like yourself.
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
We’re going on 8 years of Anal probs and nothing. You’d thing in that long of time they would find at least something.
That was supposed to happen yesterday. Fat Albert backed out.
He seriously must be the cleanest man alive, with all these claims and nothing sticks. And the Fed always usually get their person.
Loco = shitty ass Venesucklian.
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
Hahahaha this autistic Venezuelan trash can't do anything but cut and paste the same thing over and over.
If I am going to live rent free in someone's head, I prefer it to be a red blooded American.
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
Nobody cares. Venezuelan trash. Hahahaha
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
Nobody cares. Venezuelan trash. Hahahaha
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
Nobody cares. Venezuelan trash. Hahahaha
Ewwww... I feel dirty knowing that you obsess over me all the time now. Third world stalker.
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
Nobody cares. Venezuelan trash. Hahahaha
Ewwww... I feel dirty knowing that you obsess over me all the time now. Third world stalker.
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
whatever happened to the classified docs found with the Bidens?
Nothing. The swamp flushed down toilet.
Nobody cares. Venezuelan trash. Hahahaha
Ewwww... I feel dirty knowing that you obsess over me all the time now. Third world stalker.
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
Nobody cares. Venezuelan trash. Hahahaha
Ewwww... I feel dirty knowing that you obsess over me all the time now. Third world stalker.
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
Nobody cares. Venezuelan trash. Hahahaha
Ewwww... I feel dirty knowing that you obsess over me all the time now. Third world stalker.
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
Nobody cares. Venezuelan trash. Hahahaha
Ewwww... I feel dirty knowing that you obsess over me all the time now. Third world stalker.
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
Nobody cares. Venezuelan trash. Hahahaha
Ewwww... I feel dirty knowing that you obsess over me all the time now. Third world stalker.
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
^^ Lucky to have access to US healthcare and mental health counselors.
^^ Lucky to have access to US healthcare and mental health counselors.
How can a Venezuelan in a third world crap hole have access to US healthcare?
When they are living in the US they can.
You posted over and over that I'm in a third world crap hole.
I said you were FROM a third world shithole and you were BORN in a third world shithole.
And it is true. :D You said so yourself. You obviously can't read. <--- Third world education, third world reading skills, third world autism.
Carry on with your meltdown though. It's quite amusing how easily you are triggered.
Straw/Lurker,
Yes, I did say that because it's the truth. So? Why are you so obsessed with where I was born and with where I live, you creepy SOB stalker?
I received my education in the US. Assuming you did too, that means you too have a third world education, third world reading skills, third world autism in your own opinion. :D
I will carry one because it obviously triggers you, since you keep responding, especially when my posts are directed at Straw, one of your gimmicks. ;D
then why are you so obviously bent out of shape
how much longer is your menses going to last?
no one gives a shit so how about you get over yourself already
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Looks like she's going to be on the rag for at least another day
I guess women from your country have longer periods than normal
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
then why are you so obviously bent out of shape
how much longer is your menses going to last?
no one gives a shit so how about you get over yourself already
He acts like it is the secret to Coca Cola or something. We've known for years. He just clings to that, like he clings to a five year old typo, because he is ashamed.
Again, I thought he was just a teenager or a poor troll easily triggered. Obviously, autism plays a part.
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
You know because I said so in this forum, more than once. But you still keep going on and on about where I was born and where I live.
Straw/Lurker/WayneTracker,
Why are you so obsessed with where I was born and with where I live, you creepy SOB stalker?
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"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Straw Man = LurkerNoMore = Wayne Tracker
He is an intolerant, racist, pervert, a liar and a coward, hiding behind multiple gimmick accounts.
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
So far all you've proven is that you're a moron, a liar and a world class whiny little bitch
I've never inquired about whereabout (WTF is that all about).
As far as I can recall I suspected that you weren't in the US when Prop 8 was passed in California in 2008
The only reason I mentioned that is because I recently saw your thread on the G&O board about being from Venezuela
here you go
it's on page 2 of G&O
When I saw it a few days ago it was on page 1
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=652515.0
The title of your thread is: Venezuela was my home, and socialism destroyed it. Slowly, it will destroy America, too.
but I assume you're going to say that just because you wrote "Venezuela was my home" we should in no way assume you ever lived there or that it was ever your home
right?
Edit - I see - you posted an article
Yep, after I posted it I noticed you were quoting an article so I did a further search
What's your explanation for this
I did a search and found this thread from a long time ago
So way back in 2009 you were an average Venezuelan
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=294438.msg4196856#msg4196856
Hey Loco - another short search and I found this
What country are you from that is 99% Catholic because it sure as shit isn't the USA
Do you want to get back to your idiotic claim about black people?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=6631;area=showposts;start=17775
You're the one that is bent out of shape about it
I thought you were Venezuelan because I saw a post that I though you wrote that turned out to be an article by someone else
Since you asked me to look ....I went looking and found another post where you said you were Venezuelan
so you're just an average Venezuelan and you're not from the US and your country is 99% Catholic
Do you want to get off this topic and get back to your lie about black people
that would be fine with me
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Looks like she's going to be on the rag for at least another day
I guess women from your country have longer periods than normal
Where are the mods when we need them? Someone send loco to 'time out' he is shitting all over Getbig by incessantly posting the same stupid one like hundreds of times a day.
Where are the mods when we need them? Someone send loco to 'time out' he is shitting all over Getbig by incessantly posting the same stupid one like hundreds of times a day.
Where are the mods when we need them? Someone send loco to 'time out' he is shitting all over Getbig by incessantly posting the same stupid one like hundreds of times a day.
Because you should take time to reflect and accept that autistic morons just can't help themselves.
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
Is calling me autistic over and over again supposed to be an insult? :D
Where are the mods when we need them? Someone send loco to 'time out' he is shitting all over Getbig by incessantly posting the same stupid one like hundreds of times a day.
🤔 Hmmmm come on Prime, what you calling on the mods for ?
They haven't intervened with Bianca Butt Plug & his antics or a few other Pathetic pedo Fagggot
Posters repeating their crap nonsense over & over again.
Me I just put them on block & don't see their posts - works really well .
Do not take that post so seriously. It is not a 'report to mod' it is an expression of my opinion on the tiresomeness of loco's repetitiveness. I don't expect the mods to take any action against loco unless they decide to do that on their own.
Ha & you took my reply seriously 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 👍🏻
For me there's a few well ahead of Loco who should be silenced/ removed
Only then it wouldn't be Getbig & we'd be heading down The Liberal Leftists route of
Banning people saying things they don't like.
Did they never hear of voltaire ,
“I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
Nope that went right over the heads of so many Leftist & still is to much for them to cope with . ::)
Poor deranged Twatlings .
Since you brought up banning what folks can say and write, what are your thoughts about banning books in schools and public libraries? The following list of 14 books banned books covers those banned over decades. My point is as society changes what is acceptable and what is not also changes at the whim of a select group of people. My feeling is that it should be up to each young person's parent to decide what is acceptable, but not for one vocal parent or social movement group to ban books for all kids.
14 Classic Children’s Books That Have Been Banned in America
The land of the free.
1. Where's Waldo? by Martin Handford
2. The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein
3. Winnie-the-Pooh by A. A. Milne
4. James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
5. Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh
6. Anne Frank: The Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank
7. Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
8. Charlotte's Web by E. B. White
9. Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll
10. Where the Wild Things Are by Maurice Sendak
11. The Lorax by Dr. Seuss
12. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory by Roald Dahl
13. The Wonderful Wizard of Oz by L. Frank Baum
14. Brown Bear, Brown Bear, What do you see? by Bill Martin, Jr.
A better question would be why does he think about American politics so much when he can't even vote or participate.
Seriously, look at his thought process. Do you think he could read an entire book?
A better question is, "What's on your laptop?" Keep it up. You are a supporter/enabler of pedophilia and that by your alliance and allegiance to the Democrat Party and all that the kneel for. Foul craven.
Certainly not the projections and obsession of pedo and queerness you store on yours. Creepy ass cripple.
Who listens to an idiots meltdown?
We have heard the same crap from you a hundred times. You are not original - or witty - at all and simple recycle the same bullshit over and over.
You are scared.
No. It's the truth. As we all know.
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
It's not the truth, but this, as we all know, is:
Because you should take time to reflect and accept that autistic morons just can't help themselves.
Is calling me autistic over and over again supposed to be an insult? :D
No. It's the truth. As we all know.
It's not the truth, but this, as we all know, is:
It is the truth. You said so yourself right here. Unless you are saying you are a liar.
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=680386.0;attach=1431578;image)
Where did Strawman account go ?
Someone lost their password/ or took your advice & logged out not to return
"Wayne Tracker" is the Village Idiot.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
Where are the mods when we need them? Someone send loco to 'time out' he is shitting all over Getbig by incessantly posting the same stupid one like hundreds of times a day.
Do not take that post so seriously. It is not a 'report to mod' it is an expression of my opinion on the tiresomeness of loco's repetitiveness. I don't expect the mods to take any action against loco unless they decide to do that on their own.
In a democratic society the majority rules. This is why some people care about what many people believe.
You clearly are autistic. Your little meltdown is proof of that.
biden classified docs?
hunter laptop?
Outdated old junk, stop pissing against the wind & concentrate on BB !.
It is possible to give an intelligent answer to a stupid question
but it seems you do not want to do so
Well it certainly isn’t looking good for the mind power declassification pundits.
It’s looking great actually, Jack Smith just secured Trumps re-election. I say fake indict him again so his numbers go up even further.
Make your excuses now before the truth comes out. Whole lot of people from this thread will be eating crow when it’s over.
What time does the second civil war start? I’d hate to blink and miss it.
What time does the second civil war start? I’d hate to blink and miss it.
Liberal fag can't defend themselves against a paper airplane.
Fuck off. You and several others here are by your own words and votes supporters of the Party of Pedophiles and Child Mutilators - Democrats.
Never forgive and never forget why.
Against hillbillies and fat/crippled fucks that can’t walk a half block without getting winded they won’t have to.
What’s your tactic going to be? Lay down and pull guard every time someone walks by you? Run over them with the assault bike?
And we are cannibals and have a Jewish Space Laser. Get it right. Don’t just include the parts that you have secret fantasies over.
What happened to Biden's classified docs they found?
What happened to Biden's classified docs they found?
Or Hillary on her server at her house?
LMAO!🤣
With nothing else to defend Duhnold with, Trumpturds turn to talking about Biden, Hillary, Hunter, etc.
::)
Why is that not predictable?
Hillary was investigated - and cleared - twice over the emails.
But don’t let that stem your flow of tears. Might want to get a bigger bucket since the very law Trumpy upgraded in making mishandling documents a more severe crime is probably the same one they will use to sentence him under. Talk about karma.
Good times!
I think this comes down to how the judge interprets and applies the Presidential Records Act, which isn’t mentioned in the indictment. It allows a POTUS to take records when he leaves office, regardless of classification status. And there is no criminal penalty for violating the Presidential Records Act. That didn’t stop Biden and his DOJ from manufacturing a crime.
The fact they are trying to put Trump in prison for life over this should disturb every freedom-loving American.
The Presidential Records Act, or PRA, governs the maintenance of presidential records. It was passed in 1978, after former President Richard Nixon sought to destroy recordings made in the White House that documented activities related to the Watergate scandal, David S. Ferriero, archivist of the United States who is in charge of NARA, explained in a 2017 publication for the National Archives.
When a president leaves office, the archivist takes custody of the records from that administration and is responsible for their preservation and for providing access to the public, according to a Congressional Research Service report.
“The Presidential Records Act requires that all records created by presidents be turned over to the National Archives at the end of their administrations,” NARA said in its Jan. 31 statement.
Jason R. Baron, a professor at the University of Maryland and former director of litigation at NARA, cited the PRA when we asked him to evaluate Fitton’s claim. The PRA was “enacted to ensure that the American people — not the president — own records created or received by a president when in office,” he told us by email.
“A president has no legal right to tear up, shred, or otherwise dispose of copies of records that he creates or receives while in office (including his own notes or annotations on documents concerning official business),” Baron said.
He noted that the PRA allows a sitting president to dispose of official records only after consulting with the archivist.
Baron also said that a president doesn’t have “the right to decide for himself that he will take boxes containing presidential records to his own residence after he leaves office, even if it is allegedly for the purpose of transferring them to a presidential library.”
“The PRA specifies that upon the conclusion of a president’s time in office, the Archivist assumes legal control of presidential records, and the Archivist alone is empowered to decide where those records will be housed,” Baron said.
Kel McClanahan, a professor at the George Washington University Law School and executive director of the public interest law firm National Security Counselors, had a similar but slightly different take.
He honed in on an issue that was also noted in the CRS report, which cited Ferriero’s 2017 article. The report explained that the PRA allows for personal records to be classified separately from official presidential records and that “the President has a high degree of discretion over what materials are to be preserved under the PRA.”
So, McClanahan said, Fitton technically has a point when saying, “A president has discretion on what docs to retain as presidential records while in office.”
But, in this case, that’s a moot point, since both NARA and Trump have referred to the recently recovered material as official presidential records.
Trump issued a statement on Feb. 10 saying that some of the materials would eventually be displayed in his presidential library. “It was a great honor to work with NARA to help formally preserve the Trump Legacy,” the statement said.
So, given Trump’s acknowledgement that the materials were designated as presidential records under the PRA, it would appear to be a violation to leave office with them.
“Bottom line,” McClanahan said, “if Trump believed these were presidential records, he couldn’t freely take them with him as Fitton said. And if he didn’t believe they were presidential records, then they wouldn’t go in his Presidential Library as Trump claimed. So either Fitton or Trump can be speaking truthfully, but not both.”
McClanahan also noted that Fitton wasn’t specific about which law he was talking about. The destruction of presidential records could be a violation of two other federal laws that protect records and other government property, he said.
We reached out to Judicial Watch for clarification, but we didn’t hear back.
The Washington Post, which was the first news outlet to report on the boxes recovered from Mar-a-Lago, noted that all recent presidential administrations have had some PRA violations, although most have involved the use of unofficial email accounts and phones.
In a statement addressing the current situation, Ferriero said, “NARA pursues the return of records whenever we learn that records have been improperly removed or have not been appropriately transferred to official accounts.”
NARA had worked with representatives for Trump over the course of 2021 to find records that hadn’t been transferred, according to a statement from the administration. In December, one of those representatives identified the recently recovered boxes and “NARA arranged for them to be securely transported to Washington,” the statement says.
Where did you get this cut and paste from?
https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html ...and not Breitbart.
When you read it be sure not to confuse incumbent President with outgoing President.
"Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office."
§ 2202. Ownership of Presidential records
The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html ...and not Breitbart.
When you read it be sure not to confuse incumbent President with outgoing President.
"Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office."
§ 2202. Ownership of Presidential records
The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
Stopped reading at .gov ;D
I think this comes down to how the judge interprets and applies the Presidential Records Act, which isn’t mentioned in the indictment. It allows a POTUS to take records when he leaves office, regardless of classification status. And there is no criminal penalty for violating the Presidential Records Act. That didn’t stop Biden and his DOJ from manufacturing a crime.
The fact they are trying to put Trump in prison for life over this should disturb every freedom-loving American.
https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html ...and not Breitbart.
When you read it be sure not to confuse incumbent President with outgoing President.
"Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office."
§ 2202. Ownership of Presidential records
The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
Stopped reading at .gov ;D
Nearly 2/3 of Americans say Trump indictment politically motivated
Smith has pressed 37 criminal charges against Trump stemming from his alleged mishandling of classified materials.
By Ben Whedon
Updated: June 21, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/nearly-23-americans-say-trump-indictment-politically-motivated
FFS I laugh every time
Nearly 2/3 of Americans say Trump indictment politically motivated
Smith has pressed 37 criminal charges against Trump stemming from his alleged mishandling of classified materials.
By Ben Whedon
Updated: June 21, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/nearly-23-americans-say-trump-indictment-politically-motivated
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/just-the-news/
"in 2020 they had Biden +11. That’s awful. They had Biden + 5 in Florida, even worse.
2016 they had Clinton +1 in Florida, plus 2 in North Carolina and Trump +5 in Ohio, which is pretty bad, but not as awful as 2020."
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/quinnipiac-university/
Can it be both? For example, I know Trump according to the Mueller report violated some rules. Yes, Mueller didn't have the balls to outright say Trump should be charged for X. He mistakenly thought Congress would. But my point is, if I was at a public event where I knew the Mayor of the town of 1200 people was brother in lawing contracts, and playing the game to pad his own pockets.. I might turn a blind eye.. But when it comes to the President of the United States reaching out to a Foreign president to investigate his political rival or money would be witheld, its a different level. So while I am not impressed with Bidens performance, he was better than Trump
So I can absolutely give a Biden approval rating of 38% and STILL be grateful Trump is not in office
What policies were so awful under Donald's admin ??
How was your life so much worse ?
I've been fine under every president. I was fine under Trump... I'll be fine under Biden...
Okay That's good.
Only I didn't ask that question - You said Biden was the lesser of 2 evils
I asked What was so Wrong / evil about Donald's policies ?
I have started a thread asking the same & hope to get some input from
Democrats / Biden supporters
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/just-the-news/
"in 2020 they had Biden +11. That’s awful. They had Biden + 5 in Florida, even worse.
2016 they had Clinton +1 in Florida, plus 2 in North Carolina and Trump +5 in Ohio, which is pretty bad, but not as awful as 2020."
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/quinnipiac-university/
Can it be both? For example, I know Trump according to the Mueller report violated some rules. Yes, Mueller didn't have the balls to outright say Trump should be charged for X. He mistakenly thought Congress would. But my point is, if I was at a public event where I knew the Mayor of the town of 1200 people was brother in lawing contracts, and playing the game to pad his own pockets.. I might turn a blind eye.. But when it comes to the President of the United States reaching out to a Foreign president to investigate his political rival or money would be witheld, its a different level. So while I am not impressed with Bidens performance, he was better than Trump
So I can absolutely give a Biden approval rating of 38% and STILL be grateful Trump is not in office
Good luck with that. I've asked Agnostic the same question and he cannot answer. The most substantive thing you will get is essentially "Orange Man Bad."
I've been fine under every president. I was fine under Trump... I'll be fine under Biden...
Same.
Same.
2 impeachments
Attempts at stealing an election
2 indictments (and counting)
Multiple bankruptcies
Many lost lawsuits
Campaign fraud, business fraud, charity fraud, etc
I guess that answers it. At the end of the day it hasn’t yet affected me who sits in the WH.
I’m doing better now than I did in 2016-2020
I did better then than I did in 2012-2016
I did better then than I did in 2008-2012
Etc
But that’s from my own designs and decisions not who gets voted in.
Maybe you will respond to my tread & question ?
With nothing else to defend Duhnold with, Trumpturds turn to talking about Biden, Hillary, Hunter, etc.Says the guy that interrupts every Biden thread with his TDS. "bUt DoNulD TrUmP" was accused of something too!!! ::)
::)
Why is that not predictable?
Hillary was investigated - and cleared - twice over the emails.
But don’t let that stem your flow of tears. Might want to get a bigger bucket since the very law Trumpy upgraded in making mishandling documents a more severe crime is probably the same one they will use to sentence him under. Talk about karma.
Good times!
Says the guy that interrupts every Biden thread with his TDS. "bUt DoNulD TrUmP" was accused of something too!!! ::)
‘No white knight’: Jack Smith’s record rife with mistrials, overturned convictions, judicial rebukes
By Jeff Mordock - The Washington Times - Tuesday, July 4, 2023
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jul/4/jack-smiths-record-rife-mistrials-overturned-convi/
Nearly 2/3 of Americans say Trump indictment politically motivated
Smith has pressed 37 criminal charges against Trump stemming from his alleged mishandling of classified materials.
By Ben Whedon
Updated: June 21, 2023
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/nearly-23-americans-say-trump-indictment-politically-motivated
‘No white knight’: Jack Smith’s record rife with mistrials, overturned convictions, judicial rebukes
By Jeff Mordock - The Washington Times - Tuesday, July 4, 2023
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jul/4/jack-smiths-record-rife-mistrials-overturned-convi/
Part of Trump's request to move the federal trial date to after the election:
"This extraordinary case presents a serious challenge to both the fact and perception of our American democracy. The Court now presides over a prosecution advanced by the administration of a sitting President against his chief political rival, himself a leading candidate for the Presidency of the United States."
Truth. Add to that the fact they are trying to lock their chief political rival in prison for the rest of his life. Third Word, Banana Republic stuff.
Let us say Trump is successful at moving the federal trial date to after the election and is somehow miraculously elected to office. What actions do you see Trump taking from January 20, 2025 to January 19, 2029 with regards to the DOJ and everyone else he deems his personal enemy who wronged him from the past and during the time he is in office?
It will not take a miracle for Trump to be elected in 2020.
I have no idea what he will do in response to the fascist attack on our Democracy, but he ought to clean house.
It would take a miracle since it is currently 2023. The 2020 election is over. He ‘lost it’ in so many ways and continues lose it over and over and over again.
So, you would concur when his actions were only vengeful and not based on what is right or wrong? We all witnessed his penchant for revenge whenever he feels someone crosses him or simply disagrees with him. He fired them on Twitter only now it would be on Truth Social. The folks he has no ability to fire, he denigrates in the most public crudest manner.
Typo. Fixed. 2024.
Typo. Fixed. 2024.
You are conflating Trump's childlike need to respond to every actual or perceived insult with him abusing his office to punish political opponents. What his four years as POTUS showed was that he is nothing like Obama and Biden and did not use the IRS and DOJ to target political enemies.
I recall a phone call Trump made to a certain foreign President threatening to with hold aid unless said President opened a public investigation against his opponent.
"During his four years, Trump publicly urged the FBI to investigate more than two dozen of his perceived opponents, including several Democratic lawmakers, some of the prosecutors and FBI officials involved in the Russia investigation, Biden’s son Hunter Biden, the tech company Google, and even the author of the infamous 2018 “anonymous” op-ed in The New York Times."
Ahh Damn , Dos I was hoping it 2020 & I'm 3 years younger 🤣
Typo. Fixed. 2024.
You are conflating Trump's childlike need to respond to every actual or perceived insult with him abusing his office to punish political opponents. What his four years as POTUS showed was that he is nothing like Obama and Biden and did not use the IRS and DOJ to target political enemies.
Stop lying. Did not happen. Tucker Carlson was absolutely right: liberals/progressives are usually guilty of precisely what they accuse Republicans and conservatives of doing. We see it with Ukraine. We saw it with Russia.
And you pulled your quote from a left-wing op-ed from a left-wing site: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/24/politics/trump-worst-abuses-of-power/index.html
Someone didn't read the Mueller report and has egg on his face..
LMFAO!!
Part of Trump's request to move the federal trial date to after the election:
"This extraordinary case presents a serious challenge to both the fact and perception of our American democracy. The Court now presides over a prosecution advanced by the administration of a sitting President against his chief political rival, himself a leading candidate for the Presidency of the United States."
Truth. Add to that the fact they are trying to lock their chief political rival in prison for the rest of his life. Third Word, Banana Republic stuff.
Trust me.. waaaaay over his head...None of them read the report. They went by what Faux, Breitbart, American Thinker, and Gateway pundit said about the report... as usual
Oh really? How about this? "Trump sought to have political opponents investigated by IRS: report"
New York Post
Allie Griffin
Social Links for Allie Griffin
November 14, 2022
https://nypost.com/2022/11/14/trump-sought-to-have-political-opponents-investigated-by-irs-report/
"Trump Wanted I.R.S. Investigations of Foes, Top Aide Says"
New York Times
By Michael S. Schmidt
Nov. 13, 2022
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/13/us/politics/trump-irs-investigations.html
"Trump reportedly wanted IRS audits of his perceived enemies"
MSMBC
July 8, 2022
By Steve Benen
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-reportedly-wanted-irs-audits-perceived-enemies-rcna37350
"New York Times: Trump sought tax investigations of political foes"
By Paul LeBlanc, CNN
Published November 13, 2022
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/13/politics/trump-irs-audits-kelly-mccabe-comey/index.html
These are just a few of many links that address this. Trump has a reputation for going after folks who cross him in whatever way he can.
Someone didn't read the Mueller report and has egg on his face..
The many links all quoting John Kelly, who was fired by Trump. Not the most credible source. And not corroborated by anyone. I don't believe him.
The many links all quoting John Kelly, who was fired by Trump. Not the most credible source. And not corroborated by anyone. I don't believe him.
Why am I not surprised that you don't believe him. ::)
Because it conflicts with his biased narrative.
This can't be right. Do just told me that everyone who knows him thinks he is openminded, read unbiased.
Check it out.
'I Am Biased. So Are You. Here's What Open Minded People Do Differently'
The Open-Minder
These people are most open to challenging their preconceived biases. They seek to understand the perspective of others and are open to a dialogue or debate about their own beliefs. They listen and thank people for sharing their perspective and feedback. They contemplate before responding. They frequently question their own assumptions, unprompted. They surround themselves with people who challenge them and make it safe for others to do so. They have a growth mindset, are open to evolving their thinking and like to get out of their comfort zone.'
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/i-am-biased-so-you-heres-what-open-minded-people-do-robert-glazer/
He gets embarrassed on a daily basis.
An innocent person, one who does everything perfectly, should want to get the trial over quickly, so they can take a victory lap upon acquittal. A quick trial also saves lawyer fees, so they don't have to continue to send out grifting emails begging for other people to pay their legal fees.
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“Borders on frivolous”: Legal experts say special counsel filing “embarrasses” Trump’s lawyers
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=%E2%80%9CBorders+on+frivolous%E2%80%9D%3A+Legal+experts+say+special+counsel+filing+%E2%80%9Cembarrasses%E2%80%9D+Trump%E2%80%99s+lawyers
Legal experts marveled at Smith's response to Trump's team.
"Smith's team comes out breathing fire in this oppo brief," tweeted national security attorney Bradley Moss.
"Jack Smith has responded to Trump's request that the judge forego setting a trial date in the Mar-a-Lago prosecution & it's a doozy," wrote former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance. "Interestingly, he's no longer President Trump, Smith just refers to him as 'Trump.' Just like any other criminal defendant."
Former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner told MSNBC that Smith and his team "don't mince words" and "they don't pull punches."
Kirschner said the filing "feels like a sign of the prosecution to come."
"I think that they are going to continue to insist on a timely trial date, and in fact, on page one of this reading, they highlight how the Trump defense team failed," he said. "And really, in its most important endeavor, when they filed their pleading on July 10th. They said 'judge, don't set a trial date.' One of the first things Jack Smith pointed out, is that the Speedy Trial Act says the judge shall set a date certain for the trial to begin. So they really just sort of embarrass the Trump defense team's request and they don't let up for the ten pages."
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Kind of hard to be ignored when you read everything I post Tiny Tony.
Unless you have a death wish, I'd treat lightly. 🤣
Anyway ……. Back to thread topic.
NUMBAH 4!!!!! Now serving NUMBAH 4. Step up and get your indictment.
Naw... pretty sure he will flip instead of going down with this sinking ship.
Fantastic witch hunt so far. Even more to be caught.
Well it makes sense. Sort of. If you live in La La Land. Anywayyyyyy... that is theliestory he claims this week. As evidence shows, the story changes too much. He didn’t have documents, he had them but gave them all back, the documents were planted and he had footage to show it, he took the documents but they were his to take, he declassified the documents by thinking about it. Who in their right mind would believe a word out of his mouth? No one would allow a friend or family member to lie like this and still defend them. But yet, the Trumpturds - especially on this forum - are right there fighting to get their head up his ass.
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Trump claimed classified document discussed on tape isn’t real. But he still returned it to the National Archives
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Trump+claimed+classified+document+discussed+on+tape+isn%E2%80%99t+real.+But+he+still+returned+it+to+the+National+Archives
The top-secret document that former President Donald Trump discussed at a 2021 meeting at his New Jersey golf club was included in the 15 boxes returned to the National Archives in January of last year, according to a source familiar with the matter. But Trump has denied it was real.
Trump was charged Thursday with retaining the classified document, described as a “presentation concerning military activity in a foreign country,” which CNN has reported is Iran, as part of the superseding indictment. He had previously been charged with retaining 31 other documents. The Iran war plan document, however, stands out as the only one from the 15 boxes Trump initially returned – before any subpoena was issued or search was conducted – that has led to any criminal charge.
In the new court filing, the document is described as having been in Trump’s possession from the day he left the White House in 2021 until January 17, 2022, the same date Trump is said to have returned boxes to the National Archives after many months of requests to do so.
While the July 2021 Bedminster meeting was described in the original indictment, prosecutors did not say at the time whether they had located the document Trump was allegedly showing. The new charge makes clear they have the document and believe the former president had it in his possession at the time of the meeting at which he discussed it with people not cleared to view classified material. An audio recording of the meeting first aired by CNN captures a moment when Trump seems to indicate that he is holding a secret Pentagon document with plans to attack Iran.
“These are the papers,” Trump says in the recording.
Trump has denied that the papers he showed at the meeting included a classified government document, claiming he had referred only to news articles.
“There was no document,” Trump told Fox News on June 19. “That was a massive amount of papers and everything else talking about Iran and other things. And it may have been held up or may not, but that was not a document. I didn’t have a document, per se. There was nothing to declassify. These were newspaper stories, magazine stories and articles.”
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Why bother to delete that post? Everyone already knows you are the same person. I mean, do you really think that two pedo obsessed, uncle loving, moped riding, internet cafe using, male obsessing, foreign c unt trash could be posting on here? ::)
pretty rich coming from the groomer nicknamed "pedo pete" with pedo gimmick accounts Oak - Abraham - Wayne Tracker - and more.... ::)
pretty rich coming from the groomer nicknamed "pedo pete" with pedo gimmick accounts Oak - Abraham - Wayne Tracker - and more.... ::)
You're simply dumb. Nothing more to say.