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Title: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Agnostic007 on January 17, 2024, 09:53:37 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/doing-your-own-research-is-a-good-way-to-end-up-being-wrong/ar-AA1n7pEv?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=621690f0341b43138048665c4395505a&ei=25



"people who believe false claims often do so because those claims comport with their broader ideology or philosophy. Like a parent confronted with allegations of misbehavior by their child, those individuals would presumably be more likely to embrace dubious information supporting their belief than information that corroborates the allegations. The study presented participants with news stories to evaluate without a predisposition. In the real world, that usually doesn’t happen.

One of the ways the modern media environment has made it easier for false information to spread is that false information often adopts the veneer of reliable information. Sites like the Gateway Pundit look like news sites in broad strokes. The Gateway Pundit, despite its history of propagating nonsense, is often treated as legitimate by people of prominence — so its claims are treated as credible."
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Grape Ape on January 17, 2024, 10:15:34 AM

One of the ways the modern media environment has made it easier for false information to spread is that false information often adopts the veneer of reliable information. Sites like the Gateway Pundit look like news sites in broad strokes. The Gateway Pundit, despite its history of propagating nonsense, is often treated as legitimate by people of prominence — so its claims are treated as credible."

Sounds like a picture perfect description of MSNBC and CNN as well.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2024, 10:18:00 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/doing-your-own-research-is-a-good-way-to-end-up-being-wrong/ar-AA1n7pEv?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=621690f0341b43138048665c4395505a&ei=25



"people who believe false claims often do so because those claims comport with their broader ideology or philosophy. Like a parent confronted with allegations of misbehavior by their child, those individuals would presumably be more likely to embrace dubious information supporting their belief than information that corroborates the allegations. The study presented participants with news stories to evaluate without a predisposition. In the real world, that usually doesn’t happen.

One of the ways the modern media environment has made it easier for false information to spread is that false information often adopts the veneer of reliable information. Sites like the Gateway Pundit look like news sites in broad strokes. The Gateway Pundit, despite its history of propagating nonsense, is often treated as legitimate by people of prominence — so its claims are treated as credible."

It’s only not credible when you can’t produce any evidence. Hope that helps
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Agnostic007 on January 17, 2024, 10:22:24 AM
It’s only not credible when you can’t produce any evidence. Hope that helps

 ;D
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Grape Ape on January 17, 2024, 10:30:20 AM
There is a disease in this country that goes right along with all this.

In Howie Mandel's latest interview with RFK, he said "they never said it would stop covid".

When RFK said he'd pull up the video, Howie changed to "who cares what Rachael Maddow thinks".

But the very fact he said what he said in the first place, shows how bad the insulation and groupthink is for people.

FWIW, the video isn't only Maddow, it's POTUS and the head of the CDC.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: OzmO on January 17, 2024, 10:32:51 AM
Sounds like a picture perfect description of MSNBC and CNN as well.

Pretty much all our news now. 

I don't really ever go on MSNBC.  But I do check CNN.com pretty much every day.  They are just as shameless as much of the rightwing sites IMO.  Dam, maybe I should be going to aljazeera.com lol
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Grape Ape on January 17, 2024, 10:34:20 AM
Pretty much all our news now. 

I don't really ever go on MSNBC.  But I do check CNN.com pretty much every day.  They are just as shameless as much of the rightwing sites IMO.  Dam, maybe I should be going to aljazeera.com lol

I would say the difference is Fox News doesn't hide the conservative slant, while MSCBC and CNN feign that they're impartial.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 17, 2024, 10:35:01 AM
Oh FNG please!   you are the worst offender! 


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/doing-your-own-research-is-a-good-way-to-end-up-being-wrong/ar-AA1n7pEv?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=621690f0341b43138048665c4395505a&ei=25



"people who believe false claims often do so because those claims comport with their broader ideology or philosophy. Like a parent confronted with allegations of misbehavior by their child, those individuals would presumably be more likely to embrace dubious information supporting their belief than information that corroborates the allegations. The study presented participants with news stories to evaluate without a predisposition. In the real world, that usually doesn’t happen.

One of the ways the modern media environment has made it easier for false information to spread is that false information often adopts the veneer of reliable information. Sites like the Gateway Pundit look like news sites in broad strokes. The Gateway Pundit, despite its history of propagating nonsense, is often treated as legitimate by people of prominence — so its claims are treated as credible."
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: OzmO on January 17, 2024, 10:45:20 AM
I would say the difference is Fox News doesn't hide the conservative slant, while MSCBC and CNN feign that they're impartial.

I don't look at Fox much either but I really agree with you about CNN lol
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Dos Equis on January 17, 2024, 10:56:53 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/doing-your-own-research-is-a-good-way-to-end-up-being-wrong/ar-AA1n7pEv?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=621690f0341b43138048665c4395505a&ei=25



"people who believe false claims often do so because those claims comport with their broader ideology or philosophy. Like a parent confronted with allegations of misbehavior by their child, those individuals would presumably be more likely to embrace dubious information supporting their belief than information that corroborates the allegations. The study presented participants with news stories to evaluate without a predisposition. In the real world, that usually doesn’t happen.

One of the ways the modern media environment has made it easier for false information to spread is that false information often adopts the veneer of reliable information. Sites like the Gateway Pundit look like news sites in broad strokes. The Gateway Pundit, despite its history of propagating nonsense, is often treated as legitimate by people of prominence — so its claims are treated as credible."

This article was written by Philip Bump.  Here is an article that includes a clip of Philip Bump denying that there is any evidence of Joe Biden knowing about Hunter Biden's corrupt business dealings, then threatening to walk off the set. 

Liberal Washington Post journo storms off Noam Dworman podcast over Biden question
A podcast episode went off the rails when the host insisted there was evidence Joe Biden knew about his son’s corruption with foreign business firms.
Gabriel Hays – Fox News
September 3, 2023
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/liberal-washington-post-journo-storms-off-noam-dworman-podcast-over-biden-question/news-story/4ad8d5ca747e3bcc31ebfe831927bc76
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Grape Ape on January 17, 2024, 10:58:59 AM
This article was written by Philip Bump.  Here is an article that includes a clip of Philip Bump denying that there is any evidence of Joe Biden knowing about Hunter Biden's corrupt business dealings, then threatening to walk off the set. 

Liberal Washington Post journo storms off Noam Dworman podcast over Biden question
A podcast episode went off the rails when the host insisted there was evidence Joe Biden knew about his son’s corruption with foreign business firms.
Gabriel Hays – Fox News
September 3, 2023
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/liberal-washington-post-journo-storms-off-noam-dworman-podcast-over-biden-question/news-story/4ad8d5ca747e3bcc31ebfe831927bc76

Oh man I didn't connect the dots.

Yeah, that guy is a tool.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Dos Equis on January 17, 2024, 11:02:31 AM
Oh man I didn't connect the dots.

Yeah, that guy is a tool.

I doubt Agnostic knows about Philip Bump, but Bump speaks his language, so Agnostic naturally found the article enlightening.  Classic confirmation bias.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Primemuscle on January 17, 2024, 03:56:13 PM
It’s only not credible when you can’t produce any evidence. Hope that helps

Your comment is interesting because you never produce any evidence of your claims, or rather the claims of the media sources you follow.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Dos Equis on January 17, 2024, 04:04:05 PM
Your comment is interesting because you never produce any evidence of your claims, or rather the claims of the media sources you follow.

How could you possibly know that when you refuse to read what he posts? 
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 17, 2024, 06:57:34 PM
There is a disease in this country that goes right along with all this.

In Howie Mandel's latest interview with RFK, he said "they never said it would stop covid".

When RFK said he'd pull up the video, Howie changed to "who cares what Rachael Maddow thinks".

But the very fact he said what he said in the first place, shows how bad the insulation and groupthink is for people.

FWIW, the video isn't only Maddow, it's POTUS and the head of the CDC.


You can really tell when you’ve made a solid point, when nobody counters. They just grab the low hanging fruit in the thread.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: AbrahamG on January 17, 2024, 08:06:12 PM
There is a disease in this country that goes right along with all this.

In Howie Mandel's latest interview with RFK, he said "they never said it would stop covid".

When RFK said he'd pull up the video, Howie changed to "who cares what Rachael Maddow thinks".

But the very fact he said what he said in the first place, shows how bad the insulation and groupthink is for people.

FWIW, the video isn't only Maddow, it's POTUS and the head of the CDC.

If the point is that Rachel Maddow said it would stop covid, I agree with Howie in the sense that who cares what she thinks.  But to be fair to her, she corrected that statement I believe on the same episode. 
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Grape Ape on January 17, 2024, 08:14:21 PM
If the point is that Rachel Maddow said it would stop covid, I agree with Howie in the sense that who cares what she thinks.  But to be fair to her, she corrected that statement I believe on the same episode.

No, the point was that it was thought that by getting vaccinated, you would not get Covid, and you would not infect others.

It was thought this way because that was communicated from a variety of sources - the main ones being the President of the United States, and the Director of the CDC (amongst others).

Pretty big sources.  But Howie was saying nobody said it, not just Maddow.  If you have a video of her apologizing, can you show it, because it would be cool to see.   Maddow also ran with a fake Rolling Stone story where they claimed a hospital was not treating gunshot wound victims because it was overrun by people who overdosed on.........Ivermectin.  Complete fabrication, of which I have not seen an apology for either.

But to the original point, if they never said it would stop infection, and they never said it wouldn't stop transmission, what possible rationale would they have for mandating it for companies with total employee count over 100, the military, etc?

Dude, they fucked this whole thing up, and will never admit they were wrong, because it will open a myriad of other problems for them.  But it also helps them to have completely insulated neurotic douchecocks like Mandel who have a big enough platform to give enough confirmation bias to those who took the shot and are still in denial.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2024, 08:41:16 PM
Your comment is interesting because you never produce any evidence of your claims, or rather the claims of the media sources you follow.

This is why you, lurker and Agnostic have never won a debate
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 18, 2024, 09:31:11 AM
If the point is that Rachel Maddow said it would stop covid, I agree with Howie in the sense that who cares what she thinks.  But to be fair to her, she corrected that statement I believe on the same episode.

It was not just her - it was walensky, fauci, biden, and the rest of the pedo dirtbags you support. 
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: deadz on January 18, 2024, 10:52:54 AM
If the point is that Rachel Maddow said it would stop covid, I agree with Howie in the sense that who cares what she thinks.  But to be fair to her, she corrected that statement I believe on the same episode.
Maddow is a conspiracy theorist and a total loony lefty pos, and you obviously watch her show, says a lot about you.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 18, 2024, 12:21:26 PM
This is why you, lurker and Agnostic have never won a debate

This is why you have never spent any time in reality.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 18, 2024, 12:22:57 PM
Your comment is interesting because you never produce any evidence of your claims, or rather the claims of the media sources you follow.

The originating content went right over his head.  (pun.  but not really)
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Agnostic007 on January 18, 2024, 03:15:07 PM
The originating content went right over his head.  (pun.  but not really)

 :)
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: illuminati on January 18, 2024, 04:42:16 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/doing-your-own-research-is-a-good-way-to-end-up-being-wrong/ar-AA1n7pEv?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=621690f0341b43138048665c4395505a&ei=25



"people who believe false claims often do so because those claims comport with their broader ideology or philosophy. Like a parent confronted with allegations of misbehavior by their child, those individuals would presumably be more likely to embrace dubious information supporting their belief than information that corroborates the allegations. The study presented participants with news stories to evaluate without a predisposition. In the real world, that usually doesn’t happen.

One of the ways the modern media environment has made it easier for false information to spread is that false information often adopts the veneer of reliable information. Sites like the Gateway Pundit look like news sites in broad strokes. The Gateway Pundit, despite its history of propagating nonsense, is often treated as legitimate by people of prominence — so its claims are treated as credible."

Seems like a sensible & credible unbiased description by Phillip Bump 🤡
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Typical Loony Leftist

This article was written by Philip Bump.  Here is an article that includes a clip of Philip Bump denying that there is any evidence of Joe Biden knowing about Hunter Biden's corrupt business dealings, then threatening to walk off the set. 

Liberal Washington Post journo storms off Noam Dworman podcast over Biden question
A podcast episode went off the rails when the host insisted there was evidence Joe Biden knew about his son’s corruption with foreign business firms.
Gabriel Hays – Fox News
September 3, 2023
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/liberal-washington-post-journo-storms-off-noam-dworman-podcast-over-biden-question/news-story/4ad8d5ca747e3bcc31ebfe831927bc76


Do you feel like a Big 🤡 for posting such Crap.

Really thought you were smarter than that AG 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: illuminati on January 18, 2024, 04:54:12 PM
No, the point was that it was thought that by getting vaccinated, you would not get Covid, and you would not infect others.

It was thought this way because that was communicated from a variety of sources - the main ones being the President of the United States, and the Director of the CDC (amongst others).

Pretty big sources.  But Howie was saying nobody said it, not just Maddow.  If you have a video of her apologizing, can you show it, because it would be cool to see.   Maddow also ran with a fake Rolling Stone story where they claimed a hospital was not treating gunshot wound victims because it was overrun by people who overdosed on.........Ivermectin.  Complete fabrication, of which I have not seen an apology for either.

But to the original point, if they never said it would stop infection, and they never said it wouldn't stop transmission, what possible rationale would they have for mandating it for companies with total employee count over 100, the military, etc?

Dude, they fucked this whole thing up, and will never admit they were wrong, because it will open a myriad of other problems for them.  But it also helps them to have completely insulated neurotic douchecocks like Mandel who have a big enough platform to give enough confirmation bias to those who took the shot and are still in denial.


Many supposed leaders & MSM very deliberately lied about the Clot shots they knew full well they were potentially
very harmful & damaging & Fuck all to stop China Virus it was Never the purpose of the Clot shots.

My bet is next there will be a huge increase in Cancer cases in coming years in the clot shot takers
As if the higher than average deaths already going on isn't a Big Fucking Clue.
Still 🤡s & 🐑 will continue to bury their heads up their arse & not admit they were mislead & or Fools.

Making a mistake is human only if you can't admit it your never going to learn from it & carry on doing
The same mistake - how many Clot shots have some folk had.?  Fucking 🤡s
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 18, 2024, 06:09:40 PM
Wasn’t this originally Russian disinformation?


DOJ Confirms: Hunter Biden Laptop Was Real This Whole Time | The Daily Wire

https://www.dailywire.com/news/doj-confirms-hunter-biden-laptop-was-real-this-whole-time
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 18, 2024, 06:11:51 PM
Didn’t some of us call bullshit on this? Yahoo is as liberal as it gets.


Fauci to Congress: 6-Foot Social Distancing Guidance Likely Not Based on Data


https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-congress-6-foot-social-174529265.html
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2024, 06:53:14 PM
No, the point was that it was thought that by getting vaccinated, you would not get Covid, and you would not infect others.

It was thought this way because that was communicated from a variety of sources - the main ones being the President of the United States, and the Director of the CDC (amongst others).

Pretty big sources.  But Howie was saying nobody said it, not just Maddow.  If you have a video of her apologizing, can you show it, because it would be cool to see.   Maddow also ran with a fake Rolling Stone story where they claimed a hospital was not treating gunshot wound victims because it was overrun by people who overdosed on.........Ivermectin.  Complete fabrication, of which I have not seen an apology for either.

But to the original point, if they never said it would stop infection, and they never said it wouldn't stop transmission, what possible rationale would they have for mandating it for companies with total employee count over 100, the military, etc?

Dude, they fucked this whole thing up, and will never admit they were wrong, because it will open a myriad of other problems for them.  But it also helps them to have completely insulated neurotic douchecocks like Mandel who have a big enough platform to give enough confirmation bias to those who took the shot and are still in denial.

Most of the claims medical science made and still make sense based on the history of viruses. People who are sick with viruses spread the virus to others. Vaccinated folks are less likely to get sick. The flu vaccine which has been since 1945 and is currently broadly administered to millions yearly, for this reason. However, COVID and I suppose most other viruses, mutate, or develop variants so whatever vaccine works on a virus at any one time, may not be effective later. For example, last year’s flu shot given this year may not work or it will be less effective on whatever variant is going around.

People choose to believe and take advice from whomever they want and for whatever reason they choose to believe them. Newscasters, such as Rachel Maddow, are not medical professionals or better yet virologists. For profit pharmaceutical companies have an agenda and that is to make money. How do they do this? By selling their products to the public anyway they can. Politicians tell folks (their constituents) what they think they want to hear and what hopefully will get them reelected.

If anyone thought the COVID vaccine guaranteed that they would not get COVID or if they did, it would only be a mild case, were fooling themselves and probably listening to and fully believing the wrong people. They also were being illogical and thinking about the effectiveness or lack thereof of vaccines. Many people are less logical and demand absolutes today. Many folks feel alienated and because of this more susceptible to believing in false conspiracies.

We currently live in a ‘me’ society where folks ignore the big picture and think only of themselves. COVID saves millions more lives than it takes due to side effects. But,  if someone tells you that you might die from the side effects of the vaccine and that is what you chose to focus on, there is very little anyone else can say which will give you pause to look at the statistics of if you do to believe them.

COVID brought out the worst in some folks and the best in others. We will eventually get passed COVID, but there will always be something that divides people. Whether it is a virus, a treatment, or politics etc. This is how it has always been, and we humans are too dense to change or we are geared that way emotionally an cannot change. Sad but true.
 
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: illuminati on January 18, 2024, 10:42:22 PM
Most of the claims medical science made and still make sense based on the history of viruses. People who are sick with viruses spread the virus to others. Vaccinated folks are less likely to get sick. The flu vaccine which has been since 1945 and is currently broadly administered to millions yearly, for this reason. However, COVID and I suppose most other viruses, mutate, or develop variants so whatever vaccine works on a virus at any one time, may not be effective later. For example, last year’s flu shot given this year may not work or it will be less effective on whatever variant is going around.

People choose to believe and take advice from whomever they want and for whatever reason they choose to believe them. Newscasters, such as Rachel Maddow, are not medical professionals or better yet virologists. For profit pharmaceutical companies have an agenda and that is to make money. How do they do this? By selling their products to the public anyway they can. Politicians tell folks (their constituents) what they think they want to hear and what hopefully will get them reelected.

If anyone thought the COVID vaccine guaranteed that they would not get COVID or if they did, it would only be a mild case, were fooling themselves and probably listening to and fully believing the wrong people. They also were being illogical and thinking about the effectiveness or lack thereof of vaccines. Many people are less logical and demand absolutes today. Many folks feel alienated and because of this more susceptible to believing in false conspiracies.

We currently live in a ‘me’ society where folks ignore the big picture and think only of themselves. COVID saves millions more lives than it takes due to side effects. But,  if someone tells you that you might die from the side effects of the vaccine and that is what you chose to focus on, there is very little anyone else can say which will give you pause to look at the statistics of if you do to believe them.

COVID brought out the worst in some folks and the best in others. We will eventually get passed COVID, but there will always be something that divides people. Whether it is a virus, a treatment, or politics etc. This is how it has always been, and we humans are too dense to change or we are geared that way emotionally an cannot change. Sad but true.
 


Many folk are easily fooled & believe absolute nonsense God, Religion & The China virus vaccine scam
Prove it.

Carry on Typist.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 19, 2024, 05:54:42 AM
Most of the claims medical science made and still make sense based on the history of viruses. People who are sick with viruses spread the virus to others. Vaccinated folks are less likely to get sick. The flu vaccine which has been since 1945 and is currently broadly administered to millions yearly, for this reason. However, COVID and I suppose most other viruses, mutate, or develop variants so whatever vaccine works on a virus at any one time, may not be effective later. For example, last year’s flu shot given this year may not work or it will be less effective on whatever variant is going around.

People choose to believe and take advice from whomever they want and for whatever reason they choose to believe them. Newscasters, such as Rachel Maddow, are not medical professionals or better yet virologists. For profit pharmaceutical companies have an agenda and that is to make money. How do they do this? By selling their products to the public anyway they can. Politicians tell folks (their constituents) what they think they want to hear and what hopefully will get them reelected.

If anyone thought the COVID vaccine guaranteed that they would not get COVID or if they did, it would only be a mild case, were fooling themselves and probably listening to and fully believing the wrong people. They also were being illogical and thinking about the effectiveness or lack thereof of vaccines. Many people are less logical and demand absolutes today. Many folks feel alienated and because of this more susceptible to believing in false conspiracies.

We currently live in a ‘me’ society where folks ignore the big picture and think only of themselves. COVID saves millions more lives than it takes due to side effects. But,  if someone tells you that you might die from the side effects of the vaccine and that is what you chose to focus on, there is very little anyone else can say which will give you pause to look at the statistics of if you do to believe them.

COVID brought out the worst in some folks and the best in others. We will eventually get passed COVID, but there will always be something that divides people. Whether it is a virus, a treatment, or politics etc. This is how it has always been, and we humans are too dense to change or we are geared that way emotionally an cannot change. Sad but true.
 

Total BS - that is not what Biden, Fauci, Walensky and maddow and the rest of the liberal idiots claimed.   Stop lying. 
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Grape Ape on January 19, 2024, 06:45:46 AM
Most of the claims medical science made and still make sense based on the history of viruses. People who are sick with viruses spread the virus to others. Vaccinated folks are less likely to get sick. The flu vaccine which has been since 1945 and is currently broadly administered to millions yearly, for this reason. However, COVID and I suppose most other viruses, mutate, or develop variants so whatever vaccine works on a virus at any one time, may not be effective later. For example, last year’s flu shot given this year may not work or it will be less effective on whatever variant is going around.

People choose to believe and take advice from whomever they want and for whatever reason they choose to believe them. Newscasters, such as Rachel Maddow, are not medical professionals or better yet virologists. For profit pharmaceutical companies have an agenda and that is to make money. How do they do this? By selling their products to the public anyway they can. Politicians tell folks (their constituents) what they think they want to hear and what hopefully will get them reelected.

If anyone thought the COVID vaccine guaranteed that they would not get COVID or if they did, it would only be a mild case, were fooling themselves and probably listening to and fully believing the wrong people. They also were being illogical and thinking about the effectiveness or lack thereof of vaccines. Many people are less logical and demand absolutes today. Many folks feel alienated and because of this more susceptible to believing in false conspiracies.

We currently live in a ‘me’ society where folks ignore the big picture and think only of themselves. COVID saves millions more lives than it takes due to side effects. But,  if someone tells you that you might die from the side effects of the vaccine and that is what you chose to focus on, there is very little anyone else can say which will give you pause to look at the statistics of if you do to believe them.

COVID brought out the worst in some folks and the best in others. We will eventually get passed COVID, but there will always be something that divides people. Whether it is a virus, a treatment, or politics etc. This is how it has always been, and we humans are too dense to change or we are geared that way emotionally an cannot change. Sad but true.
 

You focus on Maddow and ignore this:

When the President of the United States, the Director of the CDC, and the guy in charge of the Covid task force say something, people believe it.  And they NEVER said anything close to what you said in the first paragraph, they said you won't get the virus, full stop.  They said you would give it to grandma if you didn't.  They said everyone needed to get it to reach "herd immunity".  They downplayed or flat out denied natural immunity.

Revisionist history.  Looks like the psyop is working.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 19, 2024, 06:57:17 AM
Basically everything that comes out of the mainstream media is a lie but the jig is pretty much up. Only the hopelessly naive still believe them. The main reason Biden was installed is because he’s a corrupted pathological liar second rate con artist.

So, they have to plant bullshit pieces like to hold on to their dwindling number of believers.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Grape Ape on January 19, 2024, 07:43:43 AM
Is there a reason why  the advertisements on Paxlovid and the mRNA booster don't get the long list of disclaimers and side effects at the end of the commercial?

And I'm not looking for the conspiracy theory angle, but the legal reason.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: OzmO on January 19, 2024, 08:06:31 AM
Is there a reason why  the advertisements on Paxlovid and the mRNA booster don't get the long list of disclaimers and side effects at the end of the commercial?

And I'm not looking for the conspiracy theory angle, but the legal reason.

ChatGPT answer:

Is there a reason why  the advertisements on Paxlovid and the mRNA booster don't get the long list of disclaimers and side effects at the end of the commercial?

ChatGPT
In the United States, the way prescription drugs are advertised is regulated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Typically, for prescription medications, advertisements are required to include information about major risks associated with the drug, known as the "fair balance" requirement. This means that the presentation of benefits and risks of a drug should be equally balanced in promotional material.

However, the specifics of how these risks are communicated can vary:

Direct-to-Consumer (DTC) Advertising: For traditional TV or radio ads (DTC advertising), there's usually a requirement to include major risks and side effects. This is why many drug ads feature a long list of potential side effects.

Reminder Ads: These ads mention the name of the drug but don’t mention its use. Reminder ads are not required to carry risk information because they do not discuss the benefits of the drug.

Help-Seeking Ads: These ads describe a disease or condition but do not recommend or suggest specific drugs. They are also not required to include risk information.

For drugs like Paxlovid (an antiviral medication used for COVID-19) and mRNA COVID-19 boosters, the advertising approach might vary. If these products are advertised directly to consumers with claims about their benefits, then they should typically include information about risks and side effects. However, if the advertisements are structured as reminder ads or help-seeking ads, they might not include the long list of disclaimers and side effects.

Additionally, the specific regulatory landscape can change, particularly for products related to urgent public health matters like COVID-19. The FDA might have specific guidelines for these products, considering their importance in public health response.

It's always a good practice for consumers to seek comprehensive information about medications, including their side effects and risks, from healthcare providers or official medical sources.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Grape Ape on January 19, 2024, 08:09:24 AM

For drugs like Paxlovid (an antiviral medication used for COVID-19) and mRNA COVID-19 boosters, the advertising approach might vary. If these products are advertised directly to consumers with claims about their benefits, then they should typically include information about risks and side effects. However, if the advertisements are structured as reminder ads or help-seeking ads, they might not include the long list of disclaimers and side effects.


Thanks Oz.

So it's just typical advertising shadiness.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: OzmO on January 19, 2024, 08:15:55 AM
Thanks Oz.

So it's just typical advertising shadiness.

No prob, It's such bull shit.  The FDA is owned by big pharm.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Grape Ape on January 19, 2024, 08:18:09 AM
No prob, It's such bull shit.  The FDA is owned by big pharm.

I've thought about this - if big pharm wasn't allowed to advertise on TV like other countries, network TV would be dead, which would lead to a whole spiral of events that would make things messy.

Probably why they're allowed to.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 19, 2024, 12:13:25 PM
Epic thread backfire.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Grape Ape on January 19, 2024, 12:30:01 PM
Epic thread backfire.

Dude is getting ransacked for that article on twitter.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: OzmO on January 19, 2024, 12:34:19 PM
I've thought about this - if big pharm wasn't allowed to advertise on TV like other countries, network TV would be dead, which would lead to a whole spiral of events that would make things messy.

Probably why they're allowed to.

Great point.  Who watches network TV anymore?  People over 60, which I would bet over 75% take prescribed medicine daily.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 19, 2024, 12:36:24 PM
Epic thread backfire.

Agnostic and PrimeFAG are the two worst offenders on this board. 
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Primemuscle on January 19, 2024, 03:35:02 PM

Many folk are easily fooled & believe absolute nonsense God, Religion & The China virus vaccine scam
Prove it.

Carry on Typist.

Prove what?


The urban dictionary definition for typist describes you to a T.

Typist:
In personality typology, when someone is prejudiced or biased towards certain personality types, or someone who judges people based on their personality type without getting to know them individually.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Dos Equis on January 19, 2024, 06:57:53 PM
If the point is that Rachel Maddow said it would stop covid, I agree with Howie in the sense that who cares what she thinks.  But to be fair to her, she corrected that statement I believe on the same episode.

Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: illuminati on January 19, 2024, 11:04:46 PM
Prove what?


The urban dictionary definition for typist describes you to a T.

Typist:
In personality typology, when someone is prejudiced or biased towards certain personality types, or someone who judges people based on their personality type without getting to know them individually.


Proved it.

Oh dear I missed the off the d.



Post more crap - Typist.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Primemuscle on January 20, 2024, 02:59:44 PM

Proved it.

Oh dear I missed the off the d.



Post more crap - Typist.

Proved what?
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: illuminati on January 20, 2024, 05:28:06 PM
Proved what?


Carry on being deliberately dumb & obtuse it suits you.  ;D
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Primemuscle on January 21, 2024, 03:45:37 PM

Carry on being deliberately dumb & obtuse it suits you.  ;D

-Copout answer, Tony. In other words, you are saying that you don't know what it proved. Did you forget or did it never happen?
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 21, 2024, 03:49:52 PM
-Copout answer, Tony. In other words, you are saying that you don't know what it proved. Did you forget or did it never happen?

Don't worry.  He will ask you again.  And then again.   And want you to make his argument for him.

So basically, whatever you decide.   ;)
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: illuminati on January 21, 2024, 03:55:42 PM
-Copout answer, Tony. In other words, you are saying that you don't know what it proved. Did you forget or did it never happen?


Why Tony now ?

Cop-out answer 🤷🏻‍♂️ Yeah if You say so.   ::)

Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Primemuscle on January 21, 2024, 04:06:33 PM

Why Tony now ?

Cop-out answer 🤷🏻‍♂️ Yeah if You say so.   ::)

I often call you by your given name. Would you prefer I don't? Oh right, sorry I forgot you once said that you wanted to be known as your royal highass, or some such nonsense.

A non or irrelevant answer is always suspect and therefore a 'copout".
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: illuminati on January 21, 2024, 04:13:28 PM
I often call you by your given name. Would you prefer I don't? Oh right, sorry I forgot you once said that you wanted to be known as your royal highass, or some such nonsense.

A non or irrelevant answer is always suspect and therefore a 'copout".


Tony isn't my given Name
Its what I use on here in PM'S- clearly Some folks are not to be trusted.
I'm anonymous- Illuminati- to many creeps & weirdo's - its wise to put out false info
It highlights the Khvnts hankering after anything they can get.

Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 21, 2024, 05:28:46 PM
The default response to a Prime post:

Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: illuminati on March 13, 2024, 04:50:13 PM
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Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2024, 06:17:11 PM

Tony isn't my given Name
Its what I use on here in PM'S- clearly Some folks are not to be trusted.
I'm anonymous- Illuminati- to many creeps & weirdo's - its wise to put out false info
It highlights the Khvnts hankering after anything they can get.

That's just another lie you are telling.
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 14, 2024, 06:16:52 AM
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This was outstanding.👍👍
Title: Re: Interesting article geared towards those who tend to believe far fetched news
Post by: illuminati on March 14, 2024, 03:47:50 PM
This was outstanding.👍👍

And so very true. 👊🏻